I played 100 hours of Retail World of Warcraft without Addons

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
  • Ah World of Warcraft, the game everyone loves to hate. The game that has given brain rot to many gamers. The game that has been around for 20 years and yet is still so dependent on external addons to make it playable the way it is designed nowadays. And today I am going to be playing World of Warcraft for 100 hours without all of these addons (that should already be baked into the game), just to see if I can still find enjoyment in this game.
    I now have a Patreon and a Discord!
    Patreon: / spinninghead
    Discord: / discord
    Chapters:
    0:00 - World of Warcraft Despair
    02:44 - RIP Bozo to my addons
    02:53 - Time to make yet another WoW Alt
    04:04 - Yapping
    04:15 - Here we go again
    08:44 - Eversong Woods, so pretty, so blocky
    11:05 - Ghostlands
    11:27 - The Worst Type of Quests in any Videogame
    13:40 - People always say the Wrath is . . .
    16:18 - Back in Orgrimmar
    17:14 - Levelling always feels bad
    20:00 - Open World Content. Wow
    22:38 - Seasonal Content
    23:50 - Raiding in the hardest Difficulty
    26:31 - Button Bloat
    30:52 - Degenerate Gameplay
    32:54 - Flightstones. Why?
    33:36 - How to really play WoW
    35:23 - Final Thoughts
    It was pretty jarring to go from having a lot of addons to no addons in World of Warcraft. And after spending 100 hours of playing without them, it becomes increasingly clear that Retail WoW, as a game, should have a significant amount of their addons already baseline. Retail Nameplates are a pretty big example, because playing a Dot class becomes very cumbersome without them. Another is Clique, which allows people to bind two abilities to one button, which is related to another problem the game has right now. Button Bloat. Having these many buttons to press only make every other button press less meaningful. Not to mention you now need the entirety of the left side of your keyboard, plus a shift and ctrl variant of each. Couple that with the need to not only rotate kicks, but also crowd control when playing dungeons, and them game becomes a breeding ground for the sweatiest and most toxic of people, who base their self esteem on a video game. There is also a lack of solo content in the game that presents a challenge. Solo content is often a joke difficulty wise and also rewards you with a joke. There is nothing to do in-game whenever your friends ever don't want to play this week. Such as when affixes in dungeons really sucked and you cannot be bothered to play on a pre-nerfed sanguine week. That all said though, Wrath of the Lich King Zones are pretty, and very atmospheric. Icecrown feels like an undead base of operations, and Grizzly Hils feels like Hiking in a mountain. Dragonflight zones are also very atmospheric but we have to give props to the original. Now we wait, for Pandaria!
    Title: I played 100 hours of Retail Word of Warcraft without Addons
    #worldofwarcraft #wow #worldofwarcraftdragonflight #wowdragonflight #mmo #mmorpg #100hours
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Комментарии • 184

  • @harmonyhall4186
    @harmonyhall4186 Месяц назад +36

    I don't know if anyone has said this yet but Mouseover IS baked in to the game in your settings you can check it to turn on the feature it is not on by default. The feature was added at the beginning of Dragonflight along with the UI update. I have noticed so many people sleeping on this feature I use it on all my characters. Also you can change the settings for the health bars so they don't overlap in the base UI.

    • @reignbopanda3444
      @reignbopanda3444 Месяц назад +3

      I had no idea mouseover was in the game, ive been using macros for eons

    • @WPharolin
      @WPharolin Месяц назад

      @@reignbopanda3444 It's a recent (but welcome) addition. You needed macros and addons for ages.

    • @Velgan83
      @Velgan83 15 дней назад

      ​@@reignbopanda3444 Since macros are in the game, can we say it was in the game since the release of vanilla? Hmmmm 🤔(btw, macro team here, too used to it)

  • @huntergrant6520
    @huntergrant6520 Месяц назад +30

    This is how I played for 19 years. I have no regrets

  • @GrandAdmThrawn
    @GrandAdmThrawn Месяц назад +78

    I hope Baldman will watch this video. Very nice points.

    • @Jdp223
      @Jdp223 Месяц назад +5

      Here for baldman reaction 👩‍🦲

    • @Tetrathegod
      @Tetrathegod Месяц назад +7

      His opinion is not rly relevant anymore tho

    • @lilithvanderzwaan552
      @lilithvanderzwaan552 Месяц назад +2

      I guess we like very different things. Other then dragon riding, I find my self exactly opposite. I couldn't finish the video, just to toxic for me
      More power to you in the way you like to play. Just a comment to show people like very different things in wow.

    • @emsies666
      @emsies666 Месяц назад +2

      @@lilithvanderzwaan552I agree, too many negative nancys recently

    • @Levelity
      @Levelity 13 дней назад

      Baldman will appreciate the comedy for sure.

  • @Kedustrolder
    @Kedustrolder Месяц назад +13

    I've played season 3 without any add-on as a healer, it was the funniest season I had, holy paladin, going 3.2K rio without a single add-on, I was more attentive to the environnement and I enjoyed the game way more. I think I'm gonna do it again

  • @norricommander
    @norricommander Месяц назад +12

    the anduin roast tho

  • @Tutserman420
    @Tutserman420 Месяц назад +8

    This video is just a really long way to say I have tiktok brain.

    • @Zhohan-
      @Zhohan- 23 дня назад +2

      IKR. "2nd monitor, nothing to do while backtracking" I despise endgame but I'm always leveling characters. Secret to enjoyment is getting fully immersed into the RPG and thinking about the journey rather than the destination.

  • @whatwastaken
    @whatwastaken Месяц назад +7

    Good video, was fun watching you try to take another perspective on retail.
    I really don't understand why Blizzard thinks it's a good thing to have the current patch be the only content in the game worth doing. It makes everything else not just feel pointless, but be actually literally pointless unless you care about collecting cosmetics.
    As for solo stuff that offers a challenge, Mage Tower and Brawler's Guild used to be great for that, as was just solo questing before questing content got nerfed into the floor in Legion. Or maybe it's more appropriate to say players became so powerful that quest mobs became trivial and they just never adjusted mob health and damage to match.

  • @cosmincatea4932
    @cosmincatea4932 Месяц назад +2

    Great Video! Wish you the best of luck, can't wait for another update on your WoW adventures

  • @aquagis7499
    @aquagis7499 Месяц назад +9

    17:06 why do i feel so called out 😂

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      it happens to all of us, gotta maximize that free time

    • @yonelywanderer627
      @yonelywanderer627 13 дней назад +1

      Saaaame, the amount of times I would alt tab, forget about the game, and be dead in the middle of the ocean because of fatigue is unreal.

  • @koraybilgin3877
    @koraybilgin3877 Месяц назад +32

    Mouseover is baked in to the game, you dont need any addons for it, just check it from options

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад +2

      Yup! But I misunderstood the "None" option for mouseover, so I just tried playing like total idiot. Also i typically use clique to bind a healing and dps spell on one button, so the baked in mouseover options could still use that feature

    • @aquagis7499
      @aquagis7499 Месяц назад +4

      thats okay, not understanding the settings is a fundamental part of "starting wow from scratch"

    • @VoluntaryInk
      @VoluntaryInk Месяц назад

      ​@@spinnincas7203 macro function solves this takes 3 mins to setup

    • @IanHumito
      @IanHumito Месяц назад

      @@spinnincas7203 There is also the "click Casting" mode wich is basically healbot, it still has its problems, but its usable

    • @Lahiss
      @Lahiss Месяц назад

      It doesn't even work for me. Had to make all macros in Remix just to heal.

  • @PanicRolling
    @PanicRolling Месяц назад

    Really well done video. Keep up the good work, man.

  • @MartyKub
    @MartyKub 25 дней назад +1

    Blizz should delete all acces to addons so you can just play the game for the fun of it and not chasing numbers, make friends in the game and have a adventure together making memories...

    • @BubbaSvensson
      @BubbaSvensson 9 дней назад

      Yeah, would be a dream. Everything felt so much better before damage meter came and people were excluded just because they didn't follow the most optimized rotations or specs. In vanilla before damage meter we had our dagger rogue, combat rogue and hemorrhage rogue just to bring one of each and we all had our identity with different gears. Same with most of the classes. And we still had our server firsts and top europe kills. Quality of Life addons is one thing, but addons affecting the game, content, warnings and announcements etc for fights - it destroys everything and make you look more at the addons than the game. Before a raid leader was our most important leader followed by our class leaders in fights.

  • @OnlyRats_
    @OnlyRats_ 26 дней назад +3

    Its the dude thinking the end of BFA was good for me 🤣

  • @felipe1876
    @felipe1876 Месяц назад

    Bro, you are really good on writting and sense of humor. LOL. I need to catch-up on DOGG series btw. I'm late

  • @pipo1692
    @pipo1692 Месяц назад +2

    The crests math you did was totally unecessary. It is not meant to be farmed like this. You get new crests tiers for higher difficult content. You just prefered to do it the insane way.

  • @Nelsongonzaloo
    @Nelsongonzaloo Месяц назад +1

    to keep balance is the best way to play IMO, I have a lot of addons to do raids or m+ but when im bored with all that stuff i just create a new character, pick a zone that i don't know and turn off all the addons, you can set a UI option to switch between one interface and the other, so having a tryhard and a immersive ui setup is the best thing to do

  • @Sneaky_Emily
    @Sneaky_Emily Месяц назад

    Overall really good video, I think you hit a lot of important points. One minor nitpick on the healing section - this was only added in Dragonflight kinda quietly so I get missing it - mouse over healing was added to the base UI, very similar to Clique. You can use click casting or mouse overs, there is a toggle. It's found in the keybinds section at the top.

  • @louisstudden6609
    @louisstudden6609 Месяц назад +1

    good video hope zack sees it and share your channel

  • @TheDissidius
    @TheDissidius 29 дней назад +1

    I just use the mouse overs they added in dragon flight. I wish they added it to classic....

  • @Vo1Tep
    @Vo1Tep 18 дней назад

    26:02 saves absolutely nothing, yet it's efficient, only issue is, if you have a free gcd every time, than you're doing something wrong, the thing is - while gcd is happening, that's the time to hover mouse and click (since you'll be waiting for skill to be pressable)

  • @poorpriest4549
    @poorpriest4549 3 дня назад

    Actually anything above LFR is almost impossible difficulty. You need to find a guild (well, normal and heroic can be pugged yeah, I know) that is ok for your schedule. And then you realise that you want to go out with friends/family/GF instead of raiding this night and you get benched.

  • @badass6300
    @badass6300 Месяц назад +1

    I've been playing without addons since legion. Best decision ever.

  • @Tarkonard
    @Tarkonard Месяц назад +1

    many WQs gives gear and upgrades, all of the events give gear. the mouse over is in the game now, the make ur own Ui is in the game. i dont think Dragonflight deserves all of this negative feed back. But yeah alot that was said here is true, but also alot is kinda taken abit too far.

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 9 дней назад

      Yes Blizzard is taking strides to bring in things from addons into the base game but not everything is there which is many still use elvui and other overhauls. Maybe a few xpacs don't the road they will have it all in base game.

  • @KristofferGrnlid
    @KristofferGrnlid Месяц назад

    Great video, keep up the good work

  • @SneedFormerlyChuck
    @SneedFormerlyChuck 14 дней назад

    Having fond memories of BFA is WILD

  • @BarlytheDwarf
    @BarlytheDwarf 17 дней назад +1

    I disagree with almost everything you say throughout the video, but found you perspective interesting nonetheless. Good vid!

  • @Liloso1
    @Liloso1 Месяц назад +1

    mouse over is a part of the base game its in the settings you just have to put it on

  • @danielgibson3422
    @danielgibson3422 Месяц назад

    In my 19 years of WoW, the only addon I ever actually installed was that officially endorsed Paggle addon that came out back in Wrath. That was pretty cool, I miss it....

  • @thomasmartin1933
    @thomasmartin1933 19 дней назад

    danm this is chill! love it

  • @lizardchadillidan
    @lizardchadillidan Месяц назад

    Me and a friend are both 100 parsers, when we try to parse we turn weakauras and everything else off... the only addon i have is a horn sound for when i receive power infusion and Details!

  • @nickgman3592
    @nickgman3592 Месяц назад +1

    All i use is bartender to rearrange bars. With the new uodate they were out of date so i ran a myrhic without it. Practically 0 difference. This add on talk is a bit out of control. I used to believe it but i think its mostly hype now

  • @Johnson217
    @Johnson217 25 дней назад

    I noticed that during Burning Crusade when I started installing add-ons I actually started having less fun because I was more self conscious of how I was doing compared to others.

  • @crystillgirl2503
    @crystillgirl2503 Месяц назад +1

    good news future expansion they gona rework all zones to modern look new quest etc

  • @STOKERMATHALLAN
    @STOKERMATHALLAN Месяц назад

    Finally, maybe I'll know what these addons are for. If it were for me I'd have Less information on my screen

  • @jordansb7376
    @jordansb7376 5 дней назад

    its almost like retail WoW has every addon you could possibly need built in. it isn't Classic.

  • @danielreeks-tz1cf
    @danielreeks-tz1cf 27 дней назад +1

    You don’t need Addons to do well in this game I have multie CE Achives and gotten 0.1% title for m+ without needing addons screaming at me to dodge shit

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 9 дней назад

      Can you? Yes but is it advisable or practical? No. There is a reason the top raiding guilds and m+ teams use addons.

  • @ICM9
    @ICM9 Месяц назад

    “…finished medical school.”
    Oh nice dude, congrats doctor.
    *proceeds to take me out back a few seconds later*

  • @Zhantzher
    @Zhantzher 17 дней назад

    11:57 because, believe it or not, Blizzard still didn't have implemented the technology for that. Only by the time of Cataclysm (or was it Mists of Pandaria) that the conventional escort quests ceased to be and escrotee NPC's just followed you around like in the modern game.
    25:35 "Mouseover should be baked into the base game already". It actually is. Check your options panel.

  • @JayJoestarr
    @JayJoestarr Месяц назад +2

    I actually agree on spell bloat.

  • @Terixofevermore
    @Terixofevermore Месяц назад +1

    Mans playing cataclysm classic in retail.

  • @jameysotelo540
    @jameysotelo540 Месяц назад

    Honestly i don't really mind using ui stuff i dont think i could drop those and go back but i can easily drop dbm, dps meters, weakaura's and basically anything that isnt ui. dbm imho is not needed at all it is helpful but you do not need it

  • @keats27
    @keats27 16 дней назад

    I played the better part of 20 years of it without add ons including arenas last season.

  • @Asdos.
    @Asdos. 14 дней назад

    Damn your comments about not enjoying stuff because you didn’t find the rewards interesting showed me we are indeed from a different age.
    I’ll have classic wow and it’s flawed quest systeem anytime over the new system 😅

  • @Kadir-fw7xm
    @Kadir-fw7xm 20 дней назад

    I think nobody forgave Sylvanas. She aint a morally grey character. She is pretty much evil difference is she was good when she was alive. Shadowlands fcked up many sh*t especially with this whole "Frostmourne split souls in half" but at the end she kinda is fcked. I mean imagine somebody banishes you for A LONG LONG time to doing dailies in the maw.
    That sh*t is worse then death. That didnt even deserve Death Knight Arthas during his prime.

  • @u3pyg
    @u3pyg Месяц назад +3

    Yeah.. you lost me at the "other lady" no one talks like that about Anduin.

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад +1

      Well, after seeing him in the War Within Trailer, we can never disrespect him ever again

  • @jane352
    @jane352 Месяц назад +1

    22:00 i feel this, i hate how so many people complain against solo gearing and push the idea of ONLY raids and dungeons and people stuff. I honestly dont knw if u were being sarcastic or not but I unironically want content i can do alone.

    • @H41030v3rki110ny0u
      @H41030v3rki110ny0u Месяц назад

      Having content to do alone is fine, but the best items in the game should be locked behind group content
      ~ signed, a solo & guildless casual player

  • @fkaroundhandleit
    @fkaroundhandleit Месяц назад

    If you hit shift + M, it'll bring up a mini map you can size up and change the transparency.

  • @HotaruGlaive
    @HotaruGlaive 16 дней назад

    How can you tell you are doing damage without a meter? Big yellow numbers on the boss.

  • @lazail
    @lazail Месяц назад

    Holy fuck, the intro is so relatable

  • @gustavo7074
    @gustavo7074 Месяц назад

    Its fine to play even up to high heroic wirh only a damage meter. Mythic gets problematic because of some team weakauras

  • @c34r34lk1ll3r
    @c34r34lk1ll3r Месяц назад

    Ive veen pmaying since 2004 and the only stuff i really use is auction addon, deadly boss mods, damage meter and titan panel. You dont really need much else

  • @thenameiszed5362
    @thenameiszed5362 Месяц назад +1

    I'm new to WOW, and can't help understand what Addons are considered significant to get a better experience.
    The only one I have is the damage meter.

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад +1

      Well, that depends on what you consider to be a better experience. For Aesthetics, most people go for UI addons like ElvUI. More importantly Plater, because base game nameplates are pretty much the only thing about the base game UI that is really bad, especially when you're facing multiple enemies. This is especially true if you ever play a class with dots to manage.
      As for gameplay addons, I personally think that WeakAuras are pretty important because it helps you track your buttons. I also use Clique to enable mouseover casting and bind two abilities to one button, so that you don't have to make a macro. Most people also have a Timer addon such as DBM or BigWigs, which tracks mechanics over a boss fight, so you know when to pop your defensive and healer cooldowns. I personally prefer BigWigs as it's less intrusive. These are the addons I started with when I played BFA, and still have them on now.

    • @roguehavikk
      @roguehavikk Месяц назад +2

      Just watch a bunch of addon videos , I've been playing since 2006 and still keep finding new addons I can use.

  • @palladiumbang4442
    @palladiumbang4442 13 дней назад

    another guy who is showing us he played WOW, good boy :))

  • @LazyLautrec
    @LazyLautrec Месяц назад

    It’s so fun watching fresh retail mana users never ooming

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      In LFR, you either take no damage or someone is suddenly dead on the floor. Nothing much for a healer to do 😂

  • @Nilllan
    @Nilllan Месяц назад

    Great video! Would love more wow content

  • @BigHeroSixy
    @BigHeroSixy Месяц назад

    I'm really surprised by the button bloat discussion. I could see specifically if you mention Unholy DK, its kinda festered for too long with what its opener requires but even then the amount of keybinds in this game is significantly lower than some other mmo's on the market. Also DK's are getting reworked in war within with the unholy opener being targeted specifically as hopefully being fixed. Will have to see what happens with that so they are aware of outliers concerning bloat.
    In general dragonflight was designed in mind to have less requirements for addons overall. Now I will say theres a ton of QoL concerning some weakauras that did eventually come to the game through patches(specifically currency and things of that nature) but when it comes to raids I dont think you really need any addons if you really dont want to use them. I can count on one hand the outliers in the raid tiers that people only really used things because it was for mythic difficulty which the majority of the player base doesn't even do. Echo of Nelth was the biggest outlier, and if your raid team wasn't good enough to do it on the fly there were macros made to do cages and orbs on smolderon/fyrakk because of the private aura shenanigans. Again this is on mythic and if your team requires it. I play primarily with a base ui as a CE raider. The majority of addon complaints are honestly exaggerated in 2024. What I will agree with is some classes need better reading of their ability procs. Thats where outliers come in concerning specs. Some procs on the base ui do not have an internal popup(blizz's own spell alerts) and without them you have to drag the buff bar and memorize the icon when it pops up. Base ui doesn't let you set relevancy either so people instead just use weakauras to have the important info pop up instead. But blizzard is on record saying that the base ui improvements are there to do well for the majority of the game(which is does) and if you become more of an enthusiast you are allowed to experiment more with some qol auras/addons which makes sense. I don't really see an issue with this. Now it would be preferable if they did eventually put that in as a ui improvement(buff priority), ff14 while being against addons/plugins they have adopted some plugins and incorporated them into the base game... just as blizz has as well.
    I was gonna leave it there but you mentioned you aren't interested in dungeons/raids? I do think WoW honestly lacks solo gearing and options for fun things in comparison to other mmos. That being said delves are coming in the war within to help solve this lack of content and the final boss in delves will eventually lead to a mage tower specific encounter. Mage tower was one of the best solo additions to WoW in a long time and its a shame there hasn't been a similar addition since Legion. I haven't tested higher tier delves only the initial delves(im in the alpha) but I think its a good addition to the game and I'm excited for the final boss they've talked about.

  • @PumpkinHead_99
    @PumpkinHead_99 Месяц назад

    @Spinninghead
    Yo man my wife and I started playing in BFA also and I could relate a lot to what you said in your experience in the game so far. Keep in mind Delves are coming out soon too in The War Within. That’s pretty much the solo content that it sounds like you’re looking for.
    Also the game has seriously had its ups and downs but it’s a community based game centralized around gearing systems so it’s always gonna have a bit of an uphill elitist feel to it in ways.
    However, playing with friends through mythic keys or gold making strategies is pretty fun too. Play other games too there’s tons of good RPGs out there. Bauldur’s gate 3, Elden ring, or try something totally new out like Hell divers 2 that shit was hype lol
    Good luck out there man, hope you have a good rest of your day.

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      I've seen a bit of Delves from streamers and so far, they just look like world quests in a scenario. Or Island Expeditions. Just running around clicking on objects while 1 shotting mobs. Hopefully the higher level Delves have more to offer.
      Also Baldur's Gate 3, definitely GOTY. Haven't touched Helldivers 2 or Elden Ring yet, but I have played all 3 Dark Souls games and they were fun. Now I just need a Time Machine to play all of the games.

  • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
    @TheRandomDude-qy1ev Месяц назад +3

    When you use no addons. You get many advantages.
    1:You learn the mechanics, perfectly
    2: No need to care if an update just accured.
    3:Able to focus more on your performance, than on addons telling you what you should already know by this point.
    4: just generally makes you a better player.

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 Месяц назад

      The problem is that harder fights are designed with addons in mind hence you`re putting yourself at a disadvantage.
      Which, at the end of the day doesn`t fucking matter but that`s how people like to argue. Imo: nuke all addons. Every last one of ehm

    • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
      @TheRandomDude-qy1ev Месяц назад +2

      @@zirilan3398 I play in a mythic guild and top the charts in my dps spec. And on my tank I play perfectly.
      every mechanic has a visual, or audible Q.I use no addons at all. I just learned the Qs. Now allow of people in my guild do the same, and their performance has actually increased. because instead of wondering around mindless waiting for daddy to say "go here" they learn to simply know where to be based on the Qs.
      Allot of mythic raiders end up not really using addons. Cause we learn everything so well, that they actually just hinder your performance at that point.
      Allot of people are just ignorant, and have no idea what's going on because they RELY on addons to know for them. It's really not hard.
      Dark souls is far more difficult.

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 9 дней назад

      @@TheRandomDude-qy1ev That's nice but it doesn't make what was said untrue. The devs have openly talked about the fights being designed with weakauras and addons in mind. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it is the most advantageous. The top players in the world use addons, top raiding guilds, and top key pushers. If you're bragging about topping DPS charts that tells everyone how little you know about the game. Topping charts or even getting highest parses nowadays are so based on getting buffs from evokers and PI. Getting top parses is more about RNG then playerskill to a point. Also when you say you top the charts is that in your guild or the world? If it's the world why aren't you in echo or limit if you do so amazing without addons?

    • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
      @TheRandomDude-qy1ev 9 дней назад

      @@bradmiles1984 haha. I'm not in echo or anything special because I don't have the ambition to do so. I'm lazy, and often just don't play for a while.
      I do it merely because I get tired of needing to look at a ton of things, and listen to sounds. I want to enjoy the gameplay more than the mechanic.
      Of course I brag about topping the DPS chart, not sure how you'd think that makes me know very little. If you're doing all the mechanics perfectly, and you're doing top damage that only helps with progression, and the ability to push in both raids, and mythic+ keys at a high level. Very odd thing for you to say.

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 9 дней назад

      @@TheRandomDude-qy1ev The reason I say that is because topping dps is more about comp and kill times now then the individual player. Even top parsing players from top 50 guilds openly talk about this all the time. Max who leads limit/liquid has said on multiple streams when recruiting they don't look at parses they look at the player doing things in the encounter as a whole. Given that and you went out of your way to say you top the DPS charts is why I said you know little, the DPS chart for the most part is a meaningless thing.
      Also being top damage in your group just means your doing the most damage in your group it doesn't even mean you're doing good dps. It's very contextual to the group. If you are getting any external buffs that only one person can get like PI or evoker buff it greatly messes with the dps number.
      As I said before can high level play be done without addons but you're handicapping yourself quite a bit since the encounter design is done with addons in mind at the higher difficulties. Many of the devs have repeatedly said this.

  • @shadowweaver1599
    @shadowweaver1599 Месяц назад

    I actually came back to this game solo sucks im hoping to find a good guild sadly it been years since i have played and even longer since i had a great guild.

  • @Rapilol
    @Rapilol Месяц назад

    u ever tried unholy dk ? :D and his cooldown rotation

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      I've seen someone shout it out, it's crazy how much setup you have in ST

  • @onlywaxchannel
    @onlywaxchannel 24 дня назад

    I was still in pain of Invincible not dropping.

  • @MilkshakeGuruTTV
    @MilkshakeGuruTTV Месяц назад

    Been playing WoW without addons since Legion. Sure I don't mythic raid. But I do mythic + and have been known to do heroic raids. It's not as needed as people make it out to be. Essentially when I was bored on WoD I subbed to FFXIV and cleared a ton of content and learned I liked wiping and figuring out the fights without the game always telling me what to do next.
    Felt like I accomplished something when I cleared it lol. (Although FFXIV has way better telegraphs so.)

  • @ghoraxe9000
    @ghoraxe9000 Месяц назад

    Been playing without mods for 16+ year's... I get a lot of hate from the discord Mafia .. but those sweaty nerd's can touch Grass... I do what I want

  • @shrimp341
    @shrimp341 Месяц назад

    good vid bro

  • @arthurblair2424
    @arthurblair2424 28 дней назад

    I don’t ever use add-ons. So I really don’t miss the good old days…. 😂. 😘

  • @vireoboss8290
    @vireoboss8290 23 дня назад

    my guy the reason we gatekeep shit systems like you want (some bullshit like visons to farm cloak and gear) is cuz we have to do it too in addition to M+ split raids and our progress raid not cuz we care about a rnd Casuals gear lvl and my guys said DPS is the easiest role in the game LMAO you have to peak perform dps while doing mechanics and juggle defensives cuz early prob dps spikes you in 1 or 2 hits, while healers jobs is to keep you alive and tanks job is to not die without any performance requirements

  • @mikedarling905
    @mikedarling905 Месяц назад

    i got into wow 2005 and still playing. and ctch up gear sorta degrades the gear you get instantly classic did it best, you had gear, then you had t1, t2, t3, t4 it mattered and gave you an idea your level and status

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      IMO, catch-up gear is only a problem when the content of an MMO is scattered around in various raids, including old ones, such as in classic. Having catchup gear then invalidates a significant amount of the content. For retail i don't mind catchup gear, means I can play with other classes. It does become a problem for new players though, because once they level 70, they skip the learning part and are now applying to content they should not be in.

  • @kalejarmar3187
    @kalejarmar3187 Месяц назад

    Visions of Nzoth was in 8.3 not 7.3 , but no worries mate =)

  • @screenshotted
    @screenshotted 18 дней назад

    I don't understand how the best players in wow want better gear than everyone else while still wanting more difficult content. They should get worse gear to make the game harder. There, I fixed the game.

  • @DarkCulex
    @DarkCulex Месяц назад

    Only add-ons I use are DBM and Details dps meter, you really don't need anything else. Nothing is wrong with the default UI BTW I've been using it all the time you just made it feel like a bad thing in this video. Just becuase you are used to these extra add-ons doesn't mean we all are.

    • @darkfire8008
      @darkfire8008 Месяц назад +1

      And even then, only need DBM for the pull timer.

  • @Aldever13
    @Aldever13 Месяц назад

    I played the first 4 years without Addons

  • @DirtCat
    @DirtCat Месяц назад +3

    Playing retail without addons isn't hard to do. Just have to pay attention more and know on what you are doing.

  • @Level1Bacon
    @Level1Bacon 27 дней назад

    100 hours isnt shit in this game

  • @MysteryMan159
    @MysteryMan159 Месяц назад

    I’ve played thousands of hours without addons.

  • @andrewjackson7511
    @andrewjackson7511 Месяц назад

    Thought provoking video. For me the last stop was Shadowlands. I never bought Dragonflight and won't buy War Within. The game is no longer tailored to me as I want an RPG first hand and an infinte dungeon grind second (I got the Diablo games for that).

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      Yeah, Shadowlands really burned a lot of people out of WoW. Dragonflight IS an improvement over it, grind-wise, but the game's content has honestly become too formulaic

    • @skemax
      @skemax Месяц назад

      I think Pandaria was the last expansion that was REALLY WoW. After that the game changed too much and sadly I would say for worse. :/

  • @usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052
    @usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052 Месяц назад

    this dude talking about "button bloat" as if 90% of heal specs theye days dont have a 3 button rotation that heals everyone, damages enemies, applies buffs, takes your kids to school AND pays your taxes for you

  • @Ghostalking
    @Ghostalking Месяц назад

    I played the last 20 years of wow without addons

    • @mps7962
      @mps7962 Месяц назад

      Respect!

  • @konradkowalski1681
    @konradkowalski1681 Месяц назад

    Makes me realize how weird I am for not using add-ons 😂

  • @user-se3ii5sz7n
    @user-se3ii5sz7n Месяц назад

    Cant wait to when some bald guy react to this and make 100 gazzilion vies on stolen content

  • @nicholassaves
    @nicholassaves 20 дней назад

    I dont use addons at all.

  • @Luxumbra69
    @Luxumbra69 28 дней назад

    imagine hating on WoW for the singular thing that makes it unique and successful lol.

  • @user-wh6wq5td4r
    @user-wh6wq5td4r Месяц назад

    Video Nice job 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @tab7302
    @tab7302 16 дней назад

    A comment for RUclips algorithm ;)

  • @callesino9201
    @callesino9201 Месяц назад

    I never use meters lol

  • @crystillgirl2503
    @crystillgirl2503 Месяц назад

    and next expansion will have delves might be for u ;)

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад +1

      Delves look like Island Expeditions rather than Visions of Nzoth or Magetower tbh, but hopefully the higher difficulty ones prove me wrong

    • @crystillgirl2503
      @crystillgirl2503 Месяц назад

      @@spinnincas7203 well it gona have at start 3 dif and it gona drop heroic raid gear

    • @crystillgirl2503
      @crystillgirl2503 Месяц назад

      @@spinnincas7203 third one will be hard plus u have to do world content to get some keys for BEST chests to open in delves

    • @spinnincas7203
      @spinnincas7203  Месяц назад

      In my opinion, having it reward non myth track gear, just means that it becomes a thing you do during the first one or two of every patch and then forget because getting heroic and myth track gear from doing m+ is both far easier and also actually fun (most of the time) but again, without actually seeing their final plans for it, I remain unhyped for it

  • @Gemini-dp6yn
    @Gemini-dp6yn 24 дня назад

    so you guys have phones

  • @TheGamingInvestor
    @TheGamingInvestor Месяц назад

    W video

  • @Solidfunctions
    @Solidfunctions Месяц назад

    Try wow assension.

  • @xdsagecat3920
    @xdsagecat3920 Месяц назад

    Here before bald man comes

  • @richiepipes8960
    @richiepipes8960 Месяц назад

    Try outlaw rogue without addons lmao

  • @kileNoe
    @kileNoe Месяц назад

    Kinda suss you dont use curseforge. I like add-ons

  • @willian3673
    @willian3673 Месяц назад +1

    I disagree with many points here.
    Nameplates: Overlapping is quite the same with addons (there are 2 nameplate motion modes and they are the same with or without addons). IMHO the base nameplates deliver mostly all of the basic features (castbars and debuffs), lacking only the ability to fine-tune the size. The most useful features of custom nameplates are custom coloring by target and different collors if your interrupt is not available. Targeting continues to suck even with the custom nameplates.
    Button bloat: blizzard has experimented simpler class design and button reduction, and then on Dragonflight it experimented the opposite way. The result is that Dragonflight became much more fun and players loved its class design. It has become clear that having ~22 buttons and complex class mechanics is CORE World of Warcraft and is not going away. What Blizz can do to make things better for new players is to streamline the process of setting the keybinds, giving a good initial preset with the keys around WASD (and shift/alt) instead of just throwing buttons at the player screen and tricking it to think that binding 1 to 10 is ok. Its fine if players are not properly using all of the buttons on easier content.
    Class buffs: one of the biggest problems of playing without addons is not properly seeing what buffs do you have, since the important buffs get lost in a sea of other buffs. This has gotten better with the buffs shown on the personal nameplate. I'd say its probably decently playable like this on most classes.
    2 things that absolutely require addons: playing multiple specs and hard fights.
    Multiple specs: Its complicated to set up an UI for multiple specs because you want at the same time to order the buttons on a way that makes sense and to set up keybinds. You cannot do both with multiple specs since the keybinds are shared. So folks use the actions bar solely for keybinding (usually hiding them) and use addons for displaying the abilities cooldowns (instead of using the buttons for it).
    Hard fights: Some fights might have abilities which you must predict and take action before they happen. Some of these abilities don't have any visual clue, which brings up the need for BigWigs. I'm not even touching the design of final mythic bosses, which require people to coordinate a big number of spots in a few seconds.

  • @vicentedonate2988
    @vicentedonate2988 Месяц назад

    I played 2k of hours without addons or macros xD

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Месяц назад +1

    1: You play World of Warcraft for the world, you play Guild Wars II because it's the "better game."
    2: i was one of the best healers, people wanted me in their group. Then someone told me "use healbot USE HEALBOT" so i installed healbot... Didn't do anything except target me, i was supposed to just "mouse over" and press heal skill and it would heal that player? nothing worked. So i got rid of it. After doing a dungeon, someone remarked how they were glad i was using "healbot" and i told them i got rid of that none sense a long time ago. They never invited me to do another dungeon or raid, only because i refused to use "healbot" despite how well i was able to do my healing thing without it.
    3: i firmly believe, if ARENANET did the "World" connectivity thing, combining all the different maps together without loading screen portals. They'd easily become number one. But they won't. Cause it would cost money.

  • @Ichigomusu
    @Ichigomusu Месяц назад +2

    The clickbait. I thought it will be an addon whining video, not solo gameplay whining video.
    Play RPG solo. MMORPG are meant to play with people.
    Wow is totally playable without addons except for damage meter, although you can delete damage meter and analyze logs after fights.
    One of my friends does mythic raiding without addons and does just fine, making hardest raid mechanics just by looking at buffs/debuffs and watching boss animations and cast-bars.

  • @joeyb7064
    @joeyb7064 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve played for 19 years without any addons. It’s a work computer, I can’t use addons.

  • @ezequielalfaro1237
    @ezequielalfaro1237 Месяц назад

    you have to play FF14 to appreciate dont using addons.

  • @Aztonio
    @Aztonio 24 дня назад +1

    Welcome to the 1000th episode of "I am so pissed of by Shadowlands i'm gonna act as if it's the worst thing ever but i'm just a child"

  • @zealox1148
    @zealox1148 Месяц назад

    You know macros right? Does it count as addons?

  • @prodroxs
    @prodroxs Месяц назад

    Lmao Iv been playing wow about 20 years and only once in one expansion use dps meter ? 🤣😂🤣😂