As an INTP, it's so relaxing to be given permission to be multi-passionate. I have always felt guilty about not being able to stick with something long term, as is often recommended in our culture. I change jobs regularly, have many different hobbies, and when I try to knuckle down on one area, my life starts feeling too confined! Constantly chasing novelty mightn't be the best strategy for progressing in an area to a level of mastery, but it aligns with my definition of success because I'm much happier this way :)
Ha, I'm an INTP as well and of course we don't need anyones permission but I get that its nice to feel understood. Something I have learned in the last decade is that it is a good practice to create something, anything, before we move on from an interest. The amount of time and effort we put into these fancies deserves something concrete as a reminder. It also helps to prevent what is a recurrent issue in my life with is stoping at 90%. Around that point I have figured it out and the motivation to finish fades, we need to recognize that as a failure. Just writing out what I have learned in a way that someone else can understand has brought me insights when I thought I had already satisfied my curiosity. Then whatever it is you have created should be shared with those you care about. Don't expect they will appreciate it as much as you do but sometimes they do and I find that very rewarding. Also, pfft who needs mastery? We can pretty easily get ourselves into the 90th percentile or so and time is finite so it's much more fun to find the next cool thing to dive deeply into. I think it's also a bit futile to try to compete at the absolute highest level with other personality types that more naturally take the slow grind to absolute mastery of one subject.
INTP who just found out he was. I orchestrate music as a hobby, Im an engineer, i study computer science and people come to me seeking deep conversation. Never understood it, but im built this way. It makes sense now
That is so neat! My son sounds similar to you and I am learning to appreciate him more now that I know this about him. I am an ENFT and we couldn't be more different but I am so blessed to see and appreciate these differences.
I think she understands that, but rather points out how precise our answers and usage of language are compared to other people who are fine with answers that are ' somewhat accurate'
"Go Not to the INTPs for counsel, for they will say both no and yes." Is a slightly changed quote from the hobbit, originally about elves, that fits for my INTP brother.
As an INTP, I definitely value cooking as a way of engaging and developing extroverted functions. Even if you are cooking for yourself or a small group of people, it requires you to interact with the external environment and be responsive to it. It also invites interactions with other people because people will put up with your INTP weirdness if they can get some tasty food.
Same.I keep coming across this ADD/ASD/INTP overlap from INTPers.The P aspect aspect seems to correlate w ADD and ASD with the INT.Together it seems to account for INTP.Maybe INTPers are just people both with ADD & ASD.🧐 @@TAKEULTIMATETOTHEFACE
This has been an amazing series that will be so helpful in getting people typed correctly and the work to do in the aux once type is down. I've learned quite a bit, thank you!
As a possible INTP I'd say that it depends. No, really, I'm so critical about MBTI, but I'm still interested in it. I think I will never be sure if it works or not. I was INFP for long according to the test, but after i cured my depression I've got ENFJ. After some journey through the MBTI forest I found myself between intj and infj. And now I wonder if I'm just a super critical INTP. Who knows, I think it doesn't matter when you can convince yourself that you're some of this types and you will believe it. Most of people in MBTI community are mistyped, but they believe that they found they're type. And some of people will never find their type cuz "every person is an exception to the rule" - Carl Jung.
Alexis, I love that you planned to leave Ti personalities towards the end of the series, and I think you did a great job. I took screenshots of some of the slides you were showing as reference and Ill definitely watch it again later - taking notes (you know INTPs). I’d like to maybe say “thank you” with some feedback? What I loved about this video: 1) the relationships between Cognitive Functions, as a way to help distinguish them apart - it’s one critical aspect of understanding MBTI. 2) the references you used from Carl Jung and Myers-Briggs, it gave it some “depth” I guess -and I can definitely see you know what you are talking about. 3) The idea of % of time using each CF. I know it’s very hard to quantify that in practice, but I think even with innacuracy it’s a good “framework” to reflect on our self-development. 4) The idea of 3rd function being the “child”; this was so spot on in my case; Im curious to learn what that would look like for other types, but for INTPs, 100% Si is the overused weakness. 5) 4th function… this one is really tough, and you were able to shed some light on it… What I think could be improved - and also some ideas (if you allow my Ne to speak :-/ ) 1) Making those videos take a lot of time, I know that. But it would be REALLY amazing if the FORMAT of the videos (for the next series) were completely customized for each personality type. 2) I’m not sure you are doing this backstage, but having people with that specific personality “assessing” it for you could allow you to reword or rework different parts. Like having 2-3 volunteers from each type to read an outline and provide their thoughts - for T-dom types at least. And for F-types maybe you want to talk to them ;-) 3) I can appreciate you are trying to give examples to help with the explanations, but you know… “it depends” ;-) while watching, voice in my head saying “yeah, not necessarily, not always…” 4) Suggestion: a series of videos focused on “developing CFs”, as 1-4, indepedendent of which CF it is (or covering all of them on each of 4 videos); it would help bring to light what it means to develop CFs in general Anyway, thank you for the great videos you are putting out!
Great video, well thought out and clearly explained. I'm an INTP in my early 40s and everything you said really resonated and gave me a lot to think about. Many thanks for your time and efforts
As an INTP diagnosed with ASD using headphones, the biggest challenge watching this video was hearing all those steps ( upstairs neighbour???). At some point it was literally impossible to focus on what you said, I just kept hearing boom boom boom. Aside from that it's very interesting and very structured as always, but still very predictable. Having previously watched your videos on ISTP and INFP I already heard everything about theses functions in that order so I knew there wouldn't be much new information considering your way of presenting these series. However it's always a pleasure to watch such well prepared and structured content.
I might be INTP and one year I cooked a turkey dinner for the single guys at church and it is one of my most cherished memories, even though it was a bit of a stretch for me.
Got to thank you for this because it certainly cleared up some vital things that always didn't make much sense, namely the idea that the functions are ranked like that in an order of perceived importance to the individual rather than strength. This now explains to me that INTPs do care about the social harmony even though they are not really good at it, and that their second function is surely what they'd pick as superior to their third, yet their third keeps sucking them in. Also, the idea that the third and second switch, and so do the first and fourth is definitely new to me. It makes sense now to try and separate these pieces of the self and distinguish which one the person is using in which situation. Maybe I'd try to do that as an experiment for this week.
I’m happy you decided to go into depth with this one, I find that I learn best when there is a lot of depth to an explanation. I believe myself to be an INTP but when it comes to the quiet aspect of them, I don’t fit that description. A few friends of mine think I behave more like an ENTP, but I relate more to the functions of an INTP. I am curious as to why that could be and wondering if INTPs can often be more talkative and joking around others.
@@PowerRedBullTypologyI relate much more to having Si in the tertiary spot, plus I don’t think I use Fe and Ne the way an ENTP would. There is a certain sort of charisma to most of them, and/or spontaneity, I have neither.
@@jagerbaby8628 What makes your friend think youi behave like an ENTP? Also, are your friends introverted? Because I find when people are (very) introverted, I take the more extraverted role despite not being one. Thought that might explain it?
@@PowerRedBullTypologyI dunno, a lot of people around me say I’m more extroverted, and my friends tend to be extroverted. It’s sorta hard to explain but my friend was looking at ENTP characters and said I act more like them than INTP ones. People at my school called me bubbly and outgoing, I am constantly talking when around others and making jokes, and those things aren’t typically associated with INTPs. Most people say INTPs are quiet and reserved.
The same thing happens to me, that some people think I’m more of an ENTP than an INTP. The reasons are a) that I’ll be a brutal debater; b) they say I leave the house too often, and that a true INTP never goes outside other than being for to do so due to work. We’ll die starters, I debate say philosophy and politics because of my curious, and understand there are always truths within arguments, and also having a family always involves going outside.
I'm an INTP. I'll share with you my take on Ti and Ne: Briefly, Ti builds the internal model that makes sense of the world, and Ne collects the empirical evidence to support and validate the model. To elaborate: They work together like they are joined at the hip. Without Ne, the Ti model is just a hypothesis, blue-sky and impractical, not a full blown theory or functional model. Without Ti to organize the Ne data into a coherent model, Ne is just a box full of random pieces like a jigsaw puzzle that has not been assembled. Working together, these two functions allow an INTP to synthesize, which is the process of turning an unknown-unknown (an invisible gap in the model), into a known-unknown (Oh, I need something that looks somewhat like 'this'), and finally into a known-known (Ah! Got it!) Synthesis ability is the real nature of fluid intelligence. Memorization ability is *NOT* intelligence, it serves to support intelligence by keeping relevant information readily available for the synthesis process. An intelligent person cannot synthesize from a position of ignorance, but will be driven to use Ne to fill the deficiencies in data knowledge if sufficiently motivated. A person who is a superior memorizer but has only average fluid intelligence will not be very good at synthesis. Ne never turns off. It will work invisibly in the background, bringing the conscious attention into laser focus when it finds something that might fill a need for new information or evidence. I can specifically ask my subconscious to look for things for me and it works in the background continuously, apparently even as I sleep. So, I disagree to some extent with your application of the switch analogy. I think one function goes into the foreground, gaining more conscious attention and energy while the complementary function goes into the background and operates in the subconscious. The gateway between the conscious and subconscious is strange. It is sometimes "visible" to me, but it seems to be something like a dark well that my conscious mind cannot see into. Your description of Si is somewhat helpful, but rather too verbose and my model of it is not yet fleshed out. I will give an example of a possible application from my own experience: I took up dancing about 14 years ago. I found that when I have learned a specific dance pattern, all is well until I try to learn another pattern that is too similar, but different in critical ways. Then this new pattern is much harder to learn than was the first pattern because I keep getting parts of the two mixed up until I eventually sort them out. It also applies when I try to change a pattern that I have learned into something a bit different, like for the development of a choreographed routine. I also think that it is Si that tells me when something about a movement does not feel right, like it is clumsy, uncoordinated, jerky or awkward for some reason, but does not tell me why, or how to fix it. It just signals *where* in time and space something needs to be fixed with pretty good precision. Sometimes, the Ti-Ne diad can give me a possible solution, but often I need a third point of view like the opinion of a coach, or a review of a video clip to solve the problem. Hope it's not to late for you to see this, and hope you find it helpful.
Thank you for this comment, I didn't there was a word for what I've been chasing my whole life: synthesis! I'm an intp and filling a void in my understanding is my greatest joy in life, and now I know what to call it!! Thank you!!
As an INTP (I think), the "vague dread of the opposite sex" always gets me. It's both a roast and true at the same time. Enjoyed the video, as per usual. I don't know if this is an INTJ thing, but you and another INTJ (LiJo) explain MBTI in a way I understand quite well, and I find it rather thorough as well.
Well … I know that as an INTP female, that I can relate to more to males than females. It is only the very aggressive mocho type that I tend to get put off with.
Thanks Alexis, great video. Never heard the concept of flipping between one or the other like some of the other people here, that's something I'll think about. Definitely agree with the development through age, teenage years stuck in the 3rd but 20-30 have been mostly in the 2nd function! It's a shame to see INTP's stuck in the 3rd because they have so much potential and just need to focus their efforts there.
I really like these videos and how structured they are. The way you explained Ne in this one for the INTP was useful and helps me to better understand them and their superpower. Side note, I also get slightly triggered when I hear your upstairs neighbor walking in these videos. The joy of apartment life.
This has been so helpful. I've been following another RUclipsr for years, scratching away at it and trying to dig out the truth, but I kept getting stuck. I only recently realized that I could try other sources. The way you explain things has expanded my understanding of the cognitive functions so much, and I am more confident about my type now. Also, as someone else said, encouraging me to pursue the multi-passions gave me such relief and excitement. Everyone in my life beats up on my Ne.
I can get why cooking might be effective a social sense, but to me it's really is the most boring, brain numbing activity there is. You can not just do it one time and somehow save it, no you have to do the same sort of thing each and every day. However, then I do not care about food either, so that much not help either. It's just some boring stuff your body needs in order to keep your machine running. I find adding more Ne in social situations is much easier than the Fe stuff, as Ne has a sort of natural enthusiasm/charm/wittiness/casualness that feels less opposing than basically being agreeable like Fe. The more Fe you use, the more you have to suppress your skeptical and investigative Ti side. Fe is more like some last resort option you can get to when nothing else works if you're stuck in a social situation.
I land in the same spot on this. Our design, which requires constant maintenance (food, bathing, clothing, exercise, chores, medical care, etc), wastes so much time! When I was a kid, I used to wish I didn't have to eat to live. I kinda hate making food. For INTPs with this bent, maybe we better focus on other ways of engaging. I like hosting game nights. Playing games can take a lot of the interpersonal pressure off, for me. Does that appeal to you?
Use your Ne when cooking, mess around with the recipe, get nerdy with Ti investigating first certain favourite dishes and then general cooking and also use a little Si or Fe to get you going, If your Si says looking after your family and eating together is comfy, then make it happen and feel satisfied you created something that makes you feel in touch with yourself. If your Fe makes you want to find ways to help loved ones and make them feel happy with you, use that to get in the kitchen for them, especially if they are a sentimental person who loves feeling cared for. But really, use Ne backed by Ti to make cooking interesting, and the way you can do it in the moment is "what if I leave the chicken in for 2 extra minutes, or put 25% extra sauce, or add an extra type of chocolate to the cookie?" Start conservative if you're cooking for others or to feed yourself on a budget. When you know more go further and try things that are riskier. Or if you have time to try make it a hobby, go wild and make things crazy day 1
@@dxfifa There's really nothing that can excite me about cooking. I even dislike eating and having to eat feels like a chore I am forced to because unfortunately that hassle is needed to not die. I hardly get excited more if foods tastes good or bad, cause I just do not care about food in any way. THe only thing I care about is not dying, so I do try to eat healthy. However, it's like paying taxes. You just have to do it or you will get in trouble eventually, but there is nothing enjoyable about it. Also, what are the actual activities of cooking ? The main activities of cooking are cutting stuff in pieces and standing and stirring in some pan. I find it hard to imagine what anyone finds that interesting. Also, when you are done with cooking it does not have a lasting impact. You can not cook really well 1 time and then save it. No each day you have to start over. It's like imagining how you have to build our own sofa each day before it dissapears the next day and yo have to build it again. Why would anyone want to do that?
I made my INTP partner sit through this. He started to show discomfort and tension when you hit the Si/Fe parts... but thankfully you delivered the info real gently. He concurs and approves this message.
Wow, you brought a concept like this to an INTP? What a gift. My experience as an INTP is that I'm always stuffing things like this down other peoples throats.
Cooking with my friends has been fun night out. We a maid stuff like home made noodles for chicken soup, cookies, canned vegetables an other tasty stuff. Give it a try!
Thank you for creating an MBTI video that was unique enough to tickle my NE. I love the way that you gathered and organized the information and (of course as an INTP) I have probably watched over 80% of the RUclips content with INTP in the title. The only part I didn't identify with fully was the part about the communication style. In particular the phrase "it depends". Not that I don't use that phrase, but in my case I would tend to use it to ease into a criticism, possibly indirectly, to say that pattern you have percieved may be flawed. Either the person doesn't care to explore the idea enough to see the variables or they are mistaking correlation with causality. Generally, I'm not dismissive because I enjoy opportunities to share something I have learned and am also curious if I can dig in and see if they are onto something I may be blind too. However, my input to this discussion is not going to direct it toward some situational "truth" but more toward the universal.
When someone asks me a question that lacks specificity, I immediately imagine multiple different answers based on mutliple different contexts with multiple different variables. So i'll question their question so I can figure out which of those answers they're looking for. I think thats where the "it depends" comes from. I think thats also why we question your questions.
16:04 i am currently in a dilemma regarding this. I own a small business currently with no assets (i just hire myself out). The next logical step is to get one or two trucks and put them to work which means i’ll have to really apply myself to that field, i don’t want the shackles of it not to mention the headaches of chasing work, chasing invoices, chasing for good workers. I am in a sweet spot atm but i don’t like the comfort zone either, feel like im treading water this past while… Thinking about selling all my belongings and going travelling more.
Socionics Model G shows INTP (LII) progresses by becoming more like an INFJ (IEI) in public and an ENFP (IEE) in private. ------------------------------------------ INTP's Socionics Benefactor is an INFJ. INTP's Socionics Supervisee is an ENFP. Each type progresses by looking more like their Benefactor and Supervisee. Detached INTPs progress best by becoming more internal like an NF. They will never be good at external ST activities. And are so so being involved in SF activities.
Anybody else get way too triggered and fixated on the number scheme at minute 2:00? 😂 I love the content, and normally I keep these things to myself because normal people are more irritated by me noticing than the "irrelevant" detail.
Reading the comments I suspect INTPers may be the outcome of being both ADD & ASD.Having one "disorder" increases the chance you have the other.For yrs I knew I was ADD overlooking that yes I have ASD traits.My social skills developed late,arent as crisp as others,I could not express love easily(even tho I felt it),I tend towards perfection often,etc. ASD & ADD are biologically rooted and I suspect that INTP intersection correlates w rates of cooccurance.I will look into this.
Hmm, if the second function is often underused and the third function is often overused, how are you supposed to distinguish which one is your second function and your third function?
I agree that comfort sensing is Si. But outside the comfort zone is Se not Ne. Si-Ne go together. The more comfortable you are the more oblivious to reality you can be in Ne.
Trying to get into NE .. It's annoying because most people just like repeating the same thing over and over .. Prefer to be stuck in the same monotonous cycle ... In my situation been in the same career for over eighteen years That has no upper or lateral movement ability. And it's just a task of the same repetitis Is actions encycle over and over again. and it feels like purgatory .... Though the masses of others would call it security And when I try to use other people as focal points for ideas to branch out and change my life , only very few are encourage me with Ideas and enthusiasm , The most just say well you got a good job blah blah blah .... and only after i explain in details the horror and pain that is doing the same thing over and over is for me , at lesst then i get some sympathy but im looking for TE plans or more NE ideas 💡 but seems lacking ...
I can relate. Just keep in mind which kinds of people you're interacting with. If you spoke to me, I would probably tell you about how there's an entire religion that has a highest value being Understanding the Truth & getting out of mundane monotony and repetitive shit we just do for survival. It got real popular for a reason, so there are more people who can relate than you might expect.
@@ryankrammes8245 yeah but if you use it for too long. You can get overwhelmed. Overwhelmed with information, things to think about. So conclusion, limited usage.
Do you have any resources that are more direct with explaining these things? It’s not that you are not good at explaining them it is just i have some learning challenges and your way of explaining is confusing and distracting to me personally because i cant really understand what any of this means.
Not sure what “vocal fry” is, but I appreciate the excellent content and strength of the video. That said, I’ve learned to tell people at my workplace, “I know you’re still talking, but I have to leave now” before I walk away. 😂
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As an INTP, it's so relaxing to be given permission to be multi-passionate. I have always felt guilty about not being able to stick with something long term, as is often recommended in our culture. I change jobs regularly, have many different hobbies, and when I try to knuckle down on one area, my life starts feeling too confined! Constantly chasing novelty mightn't be the best strategy for progressing in an area to a level of mastery, but it aligns with my definition of success because I'm much happier this way :)
Ha, I'm an INTP as well and of course we don't need anyones permission but I get that its nice to feel understood. Something I have learned in the last decade is that it is a good practice to create something, anything, before we move on from an interest. The amount of time and effort we put into these fancies deserves something concrete as a reminder. It also helps to prevent what is a recurrent issue in my life with is stoping at 90%. Around that point I have figured it out and the motivation to finish fades, we need to recognize that as a failure. Just writing out what I have learned in a way that someone else can understand has brought me insights when I thought I had already satisfied my curiosity. Then whatever it is you have created should be shared with those you care about. Don't expect they will appreciate it as much as you do but sometimes they do and I find that very rewarding.
Also, pfft who needs mastery? We can pretty easily get ourselves into the 90th percentile or so and time is finite so it's much more fun to find the next cool thing to dive deeply into. I think it's also a bit futile to try to compete at the absolute highest level with other personality types that more naturally take the slow grind to absolute mastery of one subject.
A jack of all trades, a master of none, but typically better than a master of one.
INTP who just found out he was. I orchestrate music as a hobby, Im an engineer, i study computer science and people come to me seeking deep conversation. Never understood it, but im built this way. It makes sense now
you sound so awesome
That is so neat! My son sounds similar to you and I am learning to appreciate him more now that I know this about him. I am an ENFT and we couldn't be more different but I am so blessed to see and appreciate these differences.
Alexis, we say “it depends” because it DOES depend - just saying…
I think she understands that, but rather points out how precise our answers and usage of language are compared to other people who are fine with answers that are ' somewhat accurate'
Oh it depends you say? Hmm.. depends on the situation. Some situations are more absolute than others. How ironic, it depends when "it depends."
"Go Not to the INTPs for counsel, for they will say both no and yes."
Is a slightly changed quote from the hobbit, originally about elves, that fits for my INTP brother.
I say "Maybe" too much when something is to happen. I don't have a crystal ball, a million things could happen to keep it from happening.
honestly it depends if it depends, there's some situations that dont depends
As an INTP, I definitely value cooking as a way of engaging and developing extroverted functions. Even if you are cooking for yourself or a small group of people, it requires you to interact with the external environment and be responsive to it.
It also invites interactions with other people because people will put up with your INTP weirdness if they can get some tasty food.
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Appreciate the speaking speed too
here to remind myself I am in fact not an intp- I’m just autistic
Meanwhile i MAY have both ADHD and a bit of autism but I'm very much INTP OOF
Same.I keep coming across this ADD/ASD/INTP overlap from INTPers.The P aspect aspect seems to correlate w ADD and ASD with the INT.Together it seems to account for INTP.Maybe INTPers are just people both with ADD & ASD.🧐 @@TAKEULTIMATETOTHEFACE
I was just curious 😂
This has been an amazing series that will be so helpful in getting people typed correctly and the work to do in the aux once type is down. I've learned quite a bit, thank you!
As a possible INTP I'd say that it depends. No, really, I'm so critical about MBTI, but I'm still interested in it. I think I will never be sure if it works or not. I was INFP for long according to the test, but after i cured my depression I've got ENFJ. After some journey through the MBTI forest I found myself between intj and infj. And now I wonder if I'm just a super critical INTP. Who knows, I think it doesn't matter when you can convince yourself that you're some of this types and you will believe it. Most of people in MBTI community are mistyped, but they believe that they found they're type. And some of people will never find their type cuz "every person is an exception to the rule" - Carl Jung.
INTP dentist here. Wow this video is amazing. This is so accurate it's insane.
as a Ti user. i am slow at first and over time i work out all the kinks to achieve Mastery level. that's what makes me "efficient," eventually. lol
Alexis, I love that you planned to leave Ti personalities towards the end of the series, and I think you did a great job. I took screenshots of some of the slides you were showing as reference and Ill definitely watch it again later - taking notes (you know INTPs).
I’d like to maybe say “thank you” with some feedback? What I loved about this video:
1) the relationships between Cognitive Functions, as a way to help distinguish them apart - it’s one critical aspect of understanding MBTI.
2) the references you used from Carl Jung and Myers-Briggs, it gave it some “depth” I guess -and I can definitely see you know what you are talking about.
3) The idea of % of time using each CF. I know it’s very hard to quantify that in practice, but I think even with innacuracy it’s a good “framework” to reflect on our self-development.
4) The idea of 3rd function being the “child”; this was so spot on in my case; Im curious to learn what that would look like for other types, but for INTPs, 100% Si is the overused weakness.
5) 4th function… this one is really tough, and you were able to shed some light on it…
What I think could be improved - and also some ideas (if you allow my Ne to speak :-/ )
1) Making those videos take a lot of time, I know that. But it would be REALLY amazing if the FORMAT of the videos (for the next series) were completely customized for each personality type.
2) I’m not sure you are doing this backstage, but having people with that specific personality “assessing” it for you could allow you to reword or rework different parts. Like having 2-3 volunteers from each type to read an outline and provide their thoughts - for T-dom types at least. And for F-types maybe you want to talk to them ;-)
3) I can appreciate you are trying to give examples to help with the explanations, but you know… “it depends” ;-) while watching, voice in my head saying “yeah, not necessarily, not always…”
4) Suggestion: a series of videos focused on “developing CFs”, as 1-4, indepedendent of which CF it is (or covering all of them on each of 4 videos); it would help bring to light what it means to develop CFs in general
Anyway, thank you for the great videos you are putting out!
Great video, well thought out and clearly explained. I'm an INTP in my early 40s and everything you said really resonated and gave me a lot to think about. Many thanks for your time and efforts
As an INTP diagnosed with ASD using headphones, the biggest challenge watching this video was hearing all those steps ( upstairs neighbour???). At some point it was literally impossible to focus on what you said, I just kept hearing boom boom boom. Aside from that it's very interesting and very structured as always, but still very predictable. Having previously watched your videos on ISTP and INFP I already heard everything about theses functions in that order so I knew there wouldn't be much new information considering your way of presenting these series. However it's always a pleasure to watch such well prepared and structured content.
I might be INTP and one year I cooked a turkey dinner for the single guys at church and it is one of my most cherished memories, even though it was a bit of a stretch for me.
Thank you. ~INTP chicka
Got to thank you for this because it certainly cleared up some vital things that always didn't make much sense, namely the idea that the functions are ranked like that in an order of perceived importance to the individual rather than strength. This now explains to me that INTPs do care about the social harmony even though they are not really good at it, and that their second function is surely what they'd pick as superior to their third, yet their third keeps sucking them in. Also, the idea that the third and second switch, and so do the first and fourth is definitely new to me. It makes sense now to try and separate these pieces of the self and distinguish which one the person is using in which situation. Maybe I'd try to do that as an experiment for this week.
I’m happy you decided to go into depth with this one, I find that I learn best when there is a lot of depth to an explanation. I believe myself to be an INTP but when it comes to the quiet aspect of them, I don’t fit that description. A few friends of mine think I behave more like an ENTP, but I relate more to the functions of an INTP. I am curious as to why that could be and wondering if INTPs can often be more talkative and joking around others.
What about the function stack of intp do you find relating more yourself than ENTP? Like, do you find you have more Ti than Ne? Or more Si than Fe?
@@PowerRedBullTypologyI relate much more to having Si in the tertiary spot, plus I don’t think I use Fe and Ne the way an ENTP would. There is a certain sort of charisma to most of them, and/or spontaneity, I have neither.
@@jagerbaby8628 What makes your friend think youi behave like an ENTP? Also, are your friends introverted? Because I find when people are (very) introverted, I take the more extraverted role despite not being one. Thought that might explain it?
@@PowerRedBullTypologyI dunno, a lot of people around me say I’m more extroverted, and my friends tend to be extroverted. It’s sorta hard to explain but my friend was looking at ENTP characters and said I act more like them than INTP ones. People at my school called me bubbly and outgoing, I am constantly talking when around others and making jokes, and those things aren’t typically associated with INTPs. Most people say INTPs are quiet and reserved.
The same thing happens to me, that some people think I’m more of an ENTP than an INTP. The reasons are a) that I’ll be a brutal debater; b) they say I leave the house too often, and that a true INTP never goes outside other than being for to do so due to work. We’ll die starters, I debate say philosophy and politics because of my curious, and understand there are always truths within arguments, and also having a family always involves going outside.
I'm an INTP. I'll share with you my take on Ti and Ne: Briefly, Ti builds the internal model that makes sense of the world, and Ne collects the empirical evidence to support and validate the model. To elaborate: They work together like they are joined at the hip. Without Ne, the Ti model is just a hypothesis, blue-sky and impractical, not a full blown theory or functional model. Without Ti to organize the Ne data into a coherent model, Ne is just a box full of random pieces like a jigsaw puzzle that has not been assembled. Working together, these two functions allow an INTP to synthesize, which is the process of turning an unknown-unknown (an invisible gap in the model), into a known-unknown (Oh, I need something that looks somewhat like 'this'), and finally into a known-known (Ah! Got it!) Synthesis ability is the real nature of fluid intelligence. Memorization ability is *NOT* intelligence, it serves to support intelligence by keeping relevant information readily available for the synthesis process. An intelligent person cannot synthesize from a position of ignorance, but will be driven to use Ne to fill the deficiencies in data knowledge if sufficiently motivated. A person who is a superior memorizer but has only average fluid intelligence will not be very good at synthesis.
Ne never turns off. It will work invisibly in the background, bringing the conscious attention into laser focus when it finds something that might fill a need for new information or evidence. I can specifically ask my subconscious to look for things for me and it works in the background continuously, apparently even as I sleep. So, I disagree to some extent with your application of the switch analogy. I think one function goes into the foreground, gaining more conscious attention and energy while the complementary function goes into the background and operates in the subconscious. The gateway between the conscious and subconscious is strange. It is sometimes "visible" to me, but it seems to be something like a dark well that my conscious mind cannot see into.
Your description of Si is somewhat helpful, but rather too verbose and my model of it is not yet fleshed out. I will give an example of a possible application from my own experience: I took up dancing about 14 years ago. I found that when I have learned a specific dance pattern, all is well until I try to learn another pattern that is too similar, but different in critical ways. Then this new pattern is much harder to learn than was the first pattern because I keep getting parts of the two mixed up until I eventually sort them out. It also applies when I try to change a pattern that I have learned into something a bit different, like for the development of a choreographed routine. I also think that it is Si that tells me when something about a movement does not feel right, like it is clumsy, uncoordinated, jerky or awkward for some reason, but does not tell me why, or how to fix it. It just signals *where* in time and space something needs to be fixed with pretty good precision. Sometimes, the Ti-Ne diad can give me a possible solution, but often I need a third point of view like the opinion of a coach, or a review of a video clip to solve the problem.
Hope it's not to late for you to see this, and hope you find it helpful.
Thank you for this comment, I didn't there was a word for what I've been chasing my whole life: synthesis!
I'm an intp and filling a void in my understanding is my greatest joy in life, and now I know what to call it!! Thank you!!
As an INTP (I think), the "vague dread of the opposite sex" always gets me. It's both a roast and true at the same time. Enjoyed the video, as per usual. I don't know if this is an INTJ thing, but you and another INTJ (LiJo) explain MBTI in a way I understand quite well, and I find it rather thorough as well.
Isn't the quote "a vague fear of the feminine sex"?
@@friendlyanomaly6109 No. Aside from the fact that INTP's can be female, I think it's "opposite sex".
Well … I know that as an INTP female, that I can relate to more to males than females. It is only the very aggressive mocho type that I tend to get put off with.
@@sylviaowega3839 Well, it's possible that female INTP's are more closely aligned, cognitively, with males than other women are? Just a hypothesis.
In my experience intps and intjs gel VERY well...but the conflicts. Yeesh. 😬
Really clear & well-organized talk. It gave me tons to think about!
Thanks Alexis, great video.
Never heard the concept of flipping between one or the other like some of the other people here, that's something I'll think about. Definitely agree with the development through age, teenage years stuck in the 3rd but 20-30 have been mostly in the 2nd function! It's a shame to see INTP's stuck in the 3rd because they have so much potential and just need to focus their efforts there.
I really like these videos and how structured they are.
The way you explained Ne in this one for the INTP was useful and helps me to better understand them and their superpower.
Side note, I also get slightly triggered when I hear your upstairs neighbor walking in these videos. The joy of apartment life.
Been waiting to this. As an INTP who was mislabeled as an INTJ, thank you!
Thanks so much Alexis for your thoroughness, always appreciated from us intps
This has been so helpful. I've been following another RUclipsr for years, scratching away at it and trying to dig out the truth, but I kept getting stuck. I only recently realized that I could try other sources. The way you explain things has expanded my understanding of the cognitive functions so much, and I am more confident about my type now. Also, as someone else said, encouraging me to pursue the multi-passions gave me such relief and excitement. Everyone in my life beats up on my Ne.
"As an INTP" I feel there's something very logically paradoxical about being an INTP..
In between the paradoxical realms we find our simplicity to just be, as we are
I can get why cooking might be effective a social sense, but to me it's really is the most boring, brain numbing activity there is. You can not just do it one time and somehow save it, no you have to do the same sort of thing each and every day. However, then I do not care about food either, so that much not help either. It's just some boring stuff your body needs in order to keep your machine running.
I find adding more Ne in social situations is much easier than the Fe stuff, as Ne has a sort of natural enthusiasm/charm/wittiness/casualness that feels less opposing than basically being agreeable like Fe. The more Fe you use, the more you have to suppress your skeptical and investigative Ti side. Fe is more like some last resort option you can get to when nothing else works if you're stuck in a social situation.
oh I forgot the Fe: Great video! ;)
I land in the same spot on this. Our design, which requires constant maintenance (food, bathing, clothing, exercise, chores, medical care, etc), wastes so much time! When I was a kid, I used to wish I didn't have to eat to live. I kinda hate making food. For INTPs with this bent, maybe we better focus on other ways of engaging. I like hosting game nights. Playing games can take a lot of the interpersonal pressure off, for me. Does that appeal to you?
Use your Ne when cooking, mess around with the recipe, get nerdy with Ti investigating first certain favourite dishes and then general cooking and also use a little Si or Fe to get you going, If your Si says looking after your family and eating together is comfy, then make it happen and feel satisfied you created something that makes you feel in touch with yourself. If your Fe makes you want to find ways to help loved ones and make them feel happy with you, use that to get in the kitchen for them, especially if they are a sentimental person who loves feeling cared for.
But really, use Ne backed by Ti to make cooking interesting, and the way you can do it in the moment is "what if I leave the chicken in for 2 extra minutes, or put 25% extra sauce, or add an extra type of chocolate to the cookie?" Start conservative if you're cooking for others or to feed yourself on a budget. When you know more go further and try things that are riskier. Or if you have time to try make it a hobby, go wild and make things crazy day 1
@@dxfifa There's really nothing that can excite me about cooking. I even dislike eating and having to eat feels like a chore I am forced to because unfortunately that hassle is needed to not die. I hardly get excited more if foods tastes good or bad, cause I just do not care about food in any way. THe only thing I care about is not dying, so I do try to eat healthy. However, it's like paying taxes. You just have to do it or you will get in trouble eventually, but there is nothing enjoyable about it.
Also, what are the actual activities of cooking ? The main activities of cooking are cutting stuff in pieces and standing and stirring in some pan. I find it hard to imagine what anyone finds that interesting. Also, when you are done with cooking it does not have a lasting impact. You can not cook really well 1 time and then save it. No each day you have to start over. It's like imagining how you have to build our own sofa each day before it dissapears the next day and yo have to build it again. Why would anyone want to do that?
@@dxfifa what's your MBTI type if you don't mind me asking? Your writing reminded me of my ISFJ sister :)
I made my INTP partner sit through this. He started to show discomfort and tension when you hit the Si/Fe parts... but thankfully you delivered the info real gently. He concurs and approves this message.
Wow, you brought a concept like this to an INTP? What a gift. My experience as an INTP is that I'm always stuffing things like this down other peoples throats.
Yeah, I saw the memes but there's nothing I can do about it; it really does depend, clear definitions are more precious than Palladium.
Cooking with my friends has been fun night out. We a maid stuff like home made noodles for chicken soup, cookies, canned vegetables an other tasty stuff. Give it a try!
Thank you!
Thank you for creating an MBTI video that was unique enough to tickle my NE. I love the way that you gathered and organized the information and (of course as an INTP) I have probably watched over 80% of the RUclips content with INTP in the title.
The only part I didn't identify with fully was the part about the communication style. In particular the phrase "it depends". Not that I don't use that phrase, but in my case I would tend to use it to ease into a criticism, possibly indirectly, to say that pattern you have percieved may be flawed. Either the person doesn't care to explore the idea enough to see the variables or they are mistaking correlation with causality. Generally, I'm not dismissive because I enjoy opportunities to share something I have learned and am also curious if I can dig in and see if they are onto something I may be blind too. However, my input to this discussion is not going to direct it toward some situational "truth" but more toward the universal.
When someone asks me a question that lacks specificity, I immediately imagine multiple different answers based on mutliple different contexts with multiple different variables. So i'll question their question so I can figure out which of those answers they're looking for. I think thats where the "it depends" comes from. I think thats also why we question your questions.
Excellent content! Only thing is, Alexis talks very fast. I actually had to slow down the video in order to be able to follow properly.
16:04 i am currently in a dilemma regarding this. I own a small business currently with no assets (i just hire myself out). The next logical step is to get one or two trucks and put them to work which means i’ll have to really apply myself to that field, i don’t want the shackles of it not to mention the headaches of chasing work, chasing invoices, chasing for good workers. I am in a sweet spot atm but i don’t like the comfort zone either, feel like im treading water this past while… Thinking about selling all my belongings and going travelling more.
Probably why im long-term single also 😅
I love it !! Well done!
This is really helpful Thankyou.
A bit of Molly to use that Fe really helps 🤣
Socionics Model G shows INTP (LII) progresses by becoming more like an INFJ (IEI) in public and an ENFP (IEE) in private.
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INTP's Socionics Benefactor is an INFJ.
INTP's Socionics Supervisee is an ENFP.
Each type progresses by looking more like their Benefactor and Supervisee.
Detached INTPs progress best by becoming more internal like an NF.
They will never be good at external ST activities. And are so so being involved in SF activities.
Would like to see you do shadow functions~
As an INTP, my favourite saying is "be skeptical, _especially_ of the things you want to believe". Am I an INTP?
INTP's are often skeptical, but not all skeptical people are intps
Anybody else get way too triggered and fixated on the number scheme at minute 2:00? 😂 I love the content, and normally I keep these things to myself because normal people are more irritated by me noticing than the "irrelevant" detail.
Just learned a lot about myself 🙏
Reading the comments I suspect INTPers may be the outcome of being both ADD & ASD.Having one "disorder" increases the chance you have the other.For yrs I knew I was ADD overlooking that yes I have ASD traits.My social skills developed late,arent as crisp as others,I could not express love easily(even tho I felt it),I tend towards perfection often,etc. ASD & ADD are biologically rooted and I suspect that INTP intersection correlates w rates of cooccurance.I will look into this.
Hmm, if the second function is often underused and the third function is often overused, how are you supposed to distinguish which one is your second function and your third function?
This is good. Thanks
I love this video
tnx
I agree that comfort sensing is Si.
But outside the comfort zone is Se not Ne.
Si-Ne go together. The more comfortable you are the more oblivious to reality you can be in Ne.
thank you
Trying to get into NE .. It's annoying because most people just like repeating the same thing over and over .. Prefer to be stuck in the same monotonous cycle ... In my situation been in the same career for over eighteen years That has no upper or lateral movement ability. And it's just a task of the same repetitis Is actions encycle over and over again. and it feels like purgatory .... Though the masses of others would call it security
And when I try to use other people as focal points for ideas to branch out and change my life , only very few are encourage me with Ideas and enthusiasm , The most just say well you got a good job blah blah blah .... and only after i explain in details the horror and pain that is doing the same thing over and over is for me , at lesst then i get some sympathy but im looking for TE plans or more NE ideas 💡 but seems lacking ...
I can relate.
Just keep in mind which kinds of people you're interacting with.
If you spoke to me, I would probably tell you about how there's an entire religion that has a highest value being Understanding the Truth & getting out of mundane monotony and repetitive shit we just do for survival.
It got real popular for a reason, so there are more people who can relate than you might expect.
Don't feed that TI/SI loop bro. You got the internet. The world is at your fingertips.
@@ryankrammes8245 yeah but if you use it for too long. You can get overwhelmed. Overwhelmed with information, things to think about. So conclusion, limited usage.
Do you have any resources that are more direct with explaining these things? It’s not that you are not good at explaining them it is just i have some learning challenges and your way of explaining is confusing and distracting to me personally because i cant really understand what any of this means.
That just sounds like a doomer. Regards ENTJ
INTP here.................I stopped watching your video at about the 45 second point because I hate listening to vocal fry.
INTP discovers prejudice over reason
Not sure what “vocal fry” is, but I appreciate the excellent content and strength of the video. That said, I’ve learned to tell people at my workplace, “I know you’re still talking, but I have to leave now” before I walk away. 😂