I was in 4th grade when the towers fell. We had a Sikh in class, wore his turban and all. His brother was almost beat to death because Americans are too fucking stupid to know the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim (and even if they had been are too stupid to tell the difference between a terrorist and a literal child in high school). His whole family vanished into witness protection the next week. What our military did overseas was horrifying, but what WE did at home wasn't any better.
Your just describing human behaviour. The left are the literal GRAND MASTERS at group identity. Are you saying if sum1 in a maga hat slammed a plane into a conference center with blm or lgbt rally going on then ppl with maga hats wouldnt be targeted or attacked??
I agree, I was also in 4th at the time and I remember hearing racism for the first time from a teacher no less.. I went to school is South Carolina, granted but still. The kids act like their parents so those kids that beat up that poor Sikh kid are a mirror of their parents. Disgusting... Hell my best friend was Romanian and they called him terrorist, idiots
As an Iraqi I can't express enough how heart-warming it is to hear hassan use his platform to spread awarness of the war crimes that took place in Iraq. It was a butchery for every civilian involved, even the americans kids who were sent after the invasion with no knowldege whatsoever of what they were getting into.
I remember protesting on the weekend the war was announced. And I'd do it again. How Blair, Bush and Howard weren't tried for warcrimes is disgusting. And the fact the America is still propagandising this shit is equally disgusting
As an iraqi, I had my fair share of arguments with Americans when it comes to the invasion, and the amount of people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about is insane, I had an argument once with a guy that kept on mentioning a book by a soldier to rebuttal whatever I say when I LITERALLY LIVED THROUGH THOSE EVENTS, being that ignorant is crazy
Can you tell me if Hasan's number (that millions of civilians were killed by the US) is accurate? Because I looked it up and the numbers that are reported are tragically high but not in the millions (the estimates range from 100,000 to 500,000). A source would of course be best but I'd also just be interested in your personal insight on the matter since I'm asking this in good faith with no intention of "challenging" what you are saying., Edit: I found a reuters articlefrom 2008 that features a survey conducted by the ORB which in claims that the estimated casualties are in the range of 940k - 1.12m. And given the US's methods that poisened the ground and the water I can see that number having climbed up even higher in the last 15 years. So yeah .. millions isn't far off at all
@@Loeffellux those are estimates that are from the US and only count direct deaths due to conflicts, as in "US soldiers killed 100,000 to 500,000 people while in Iraq." If you count the deaths due to indirect causes, like the rise of ISIS and the destruction of Iraq's major infrastructure, as well as look at sources that aren't allied with the US, the number is closer to 2 million.
@@LoeffelluxI wouldn't call myself the best source to estimate that number but I know that alot of public sources straight up deny that battles had any civilian casualties, when that never was the case, especially in areas like Fallujah and around Baghdad I remember teachers not allowing us to sit next to windows because how usual it was for stray bullets to just hit and kill kids, I remember having to evacuate school once because a nearby battle was closing up on my area, innocent bystander did die on these multiple occasions and you can hardly find anyone mentioning the victoms of such events I mainly talk from personal experience considering that I've never been fond of political talks or politics in general, honestly whatever the number is, it doesn't matter, living breathing beings that absolutely did nothing wrong died on those events and for the media to not acknowledge that and label them as "terrorists" is disgusting
I'm so sorry for what you lived through, I'm German and i obviously have no idea what it means to go through something relatable, but from the bottom of my heart, i hope there will be justice one day and all these eastern countries which got destroyed by the west, will one day become the safe and beautiful country they deserve to be.❤
Maybe this brings you some comfort, in that we're currently gaslighting ourselves. Now we try to convince other Americans to not believe their own "lying eyes" when it comes to events like COVID and Trump's election. With stuff like QAnon there are plenty of Americans who seem to no longer interact with reality and live in a world of vivid black and white fantasy.
being an Iraqi that lived in Baghdad all that time that grew up with the invasion, my childhood was playing with the leftover helmets and bullets that you occasionally find in your backyard and even though my mother always yelled at me to not play with them because it's dangerous... it's all we knew at the time, waking up by the sirens sounds, also hearing any type of bombing and hiding under the stairs because it's the only rigid thing you can hid under that can keep you alive incase the bombing was on your house, always praying from the start to the end of the bombing that you're not next... getting your house invaded by military because they think you have some weapons that you're hiding, and when they don't find any they take any valuable things they can find, like my mom's jewelry, just because they can while holding us at gunpoints in our garden, i was only 4-5 years old when that happened, my father told me that the American soldier was panicking that i kept moving and couldn't hold a one position even though i was 4-5 YO... most Iraqis these days have those memories repressed, but they release them in this day every year to remember what happened, because we can't forget, we just lie to ourselves that we can forget. Also wanted to say thank you to Hasan for talking about this, it's nice to see someone not pushing the usual American narrative of being rescued by the USA...
It makes me physically ill to think about what that must have been like. The sheer terror your parents must have felt… I can only imagine my own parents in your parents’ places, and me in your place. “Sorry” doesn’t mean much, but I’m so sorry that you and your family experienced that.
This is so terrible, thank you for typing all that out and reliving those terrors to raise awareness. My thoughts are with you and I hope you and your family can heal. This was not fair or justified, I’m very sorry that happened and for everyday of living in fear.
I'm American and I can almost guarantee this account is 100% Accurate. American soldiers are not quite as brutal as Russian soldiers, but they are known for two things: Airstriking the living shit out of everything before they arrive, and then stealing anything that isn't bolted down. They also love to shoot livestock for no fucking reason.
people like to call Russians looters, thieves and destroyers for stealing and destroying people's belongings in WW2 and Ukraine but as we've seen in this video the Americans did it too.
It's almost cathartic to see someone speaking on what happened to our country with such conviction. There are days where I feel like we have been reduced to a page in a history book.
So disgusted with how that interviewee talks about having to "show our might". Complete evil - our society is beginning to understand just how insidious the demon is that lives on this land.
bro they literally speak as if they're in a cringe anime makes no sense how they FLEX ON KILLIN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLEEEEE BOMBING WHOLE COUNTRIES it's ridiculous man, it's embarrassing, it's unbelievable. the fucking balls on these pieces of shit to act as if it was heroic man.... ridiculous
The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy Conservative political right wing, ideology Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave? Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism? Human rights violations, we continue the saga El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua And on top of that, you still want to take me to prison Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change They want to rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle A bandana full of glittering, generality Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality? Read about the history of the place that we live in And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children Flow like the blood of Abraham through the Jews and the Arabs Broken apart like a woman's heart, abused in a marriage The brink of holy war, bottled up, like a miscarriage Embedded correspondents don't tell the source of the tension And they refuse to even mention, European intervention Or the massacres in Jenin, the innocent screams U.S. manufactured missles, and M-16's Weapon contracts and corrupted American dreams Media censorship, blocking out the video screens A continent of oil kingdoms, bought for a bargain Democracy is just a word, when the people are starvin' The average citizen, made to be, blind to the reason A desert full of genocide, where the bodies are freezin' And the world doesn't believe that you fightin' for freedom Cause you fucked the Middle East, and gave birth to a demon It's open season with the CIA, bugging my crib Trapped in a ghetto region like a Palestinian kid Where nobody gives a fuck whether you die or you live I'm tryin' to give the truth, and I know the price is my life But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade Like a fallen angel standing in the presence of God Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change They want to rearrange the whole point of view in the ghetto The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle A bandana full of glittering, generality Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality? Martial law is coming soon to the hood, to kill you While you hanging your flag out your project window
He's such an unbelievable little man. Talks such a huge game to Charlie Rose, thousands of miles away from the people he denigrated, and he not only has such a disproportionate force he's defending, but it'll never be him firing a missile that kills 50 people when it hits the target. It'll never be him holding a family at gunpoint and maybe having to live with taking a life or several lives, he just gets to talk his shit from the safety of a TV studio and live comfortably, totally divorced from conflict and war because it'll never come to his doorstep. Just how close-minded and unsympathetic one has to be to talk the way he does is pathetic. What a little worm of a man that preaches this kind of destruction but could never even do it himself, even with all the tools to do it against defenseless citizens.
I have almost no doubt he’s a Zionist. Read the Clean Break memo. Zionist Neocons wrote the playbook for exactly what has and is happening in the Middle East. Bush was a useful idiot for neocons and the MIC
I had some dipshit tell me that the US invasion of Iraq isn’t comparable to the Russian invision of Ukraine. And sure they sheer brutality of it maybe be slightly worse (that’s not exactly a flex) and the west never decided to annex occupied regions of Iraq, bush never denied Iraqi sovereignty. Those Nuanses aside. Putin used the same half truths/propaganda that bush used to justify his invasion >A dangerous and hostile regime threatening the lives of the invaders people. >said regime has WMDs >a radical (right wing) highly militarized minority group is operating outa said country and needs to be destroyed, People who defend either invasion frankly are fucking hypocrites.
I watched 3,000 people die in my state on live television in my homeroom class. I was horrified at the senseless murder of so many, which only resonated into the future with all of the cancer that struck those effected. Then, I watched in the same horror as we ended up doing 12 9/11s worth of killing in the span of a few months, literally leveling entire sections of cities, filled with the same kind of innocent people just trying to live their lives. And here we are 20 years later. The more it changes, the more it stays the same.
Overall death toll in Iraq War can be calculated up to 2.4 million with our destruction of food, water, medicine, healthcare, etc… And with sanctions its way higher than that too.. Utterly insane!
Being a European 10 year-old during 9/11 and its aftermath was so freaking weird looking back; this was one of the most brutal and unjustifiable wars in recent memory, but over here it was just some kind of weird background noise that children would sometimes see discussed in the magazines their parents read. No one really seemed to like it, but no one really seemed to mind all that much either.
back then if you said anything against the USA you were considered an enemy. I am ten years older and was in Europe. the ignorance of people was disgusting
Maybe that was b/c you were 10. People went on demos every week for months, including myself. 15 Feb 2003 had some of the biggest protests ever all over the world, many in the EU.
@@utalotharingia Yes, and my goal was to specifically reflect the perspective of a sheltered ten-year old whose nation wasn't directly involved in the war. There is a weird coddling filter when you are too distant from the ongoing atrocities in the world, while the expanding media landscape occasionally washes in shreds of information you are too young to understand.
Everyone when Russia has Nukes: "Omg we can't directly invade them or do anything. They're too crazy and could kill a lot of people with their nukes"" Everyone when Iraq had "Nukes": "Lets declare war and level their entire fucking country to the fucking ground without fear of any repercussions because we're just that badass 😎"
Iraq never was claimed to have nukes even as the bush administration attempted to push the yellow cake smear. Pretending hey were attempting to attain such a capability. But it was all lies, even for the first one desert storm. Kuwait was sidereal drilling into Iraqi oil deposits so bush sr administration created the Iraqis are putting Kuwaiti babies On cold floors to die. They had the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassadors daughter pretend to be a witness.
Libya was the wealthiest and most stable nation in north Africa, and the whole of Africa by extension.... Until America and France brought them "freedom"
I feel like most Americans now a days feel like the Iraq war wasn’t justified, and would not object to the current admin allowing the ICC to investigate Bush and Cheney for war crimes. There’s no such as “to little to late” when it comes to prosecuting war criminals.
Americans admit their mistake yet they do nothing about it lol. Iraq is literally still burning because of the US and the vast majority of Americans don’t give a shit.
I hope you realize most Americans overwhelmingly agree the Iraq war was unjustified and completely fucked up. The problem is that after 20 years, people stop caring and get complacent towards the war. This is why there is zero accountability for war crimes in Iraq.
@@insightfulhistorian1861 Then maybe Americans shouldn’t try and pretend that they have higher moral ground when talking about Russia. What now happens is that we think Americans only care when white people are being killed.
I was only 8 when we invaded Iraq and I was 100% propagandized. I truly believed my dad was fighting for a good cause. I had no idea of any of Bush's war crimes until literally like a couple years ago.
@@CFRTrainSpotter Thankfully Poland has a track record of being hateful, but not hypocritical. "Thank you, Joe Biden" comes to mind. They knew who did it, maybe we can ask them even more questions
I’ll never forget that tik tok of a man attending an event where Bush was present and the man with tears in his eyes telling bush he buried his friends over lies. Unforgivable
To any people who aren’t old enough to remember or just don’t know much about the Iraq war I absolutely cannot recommend enough the “Blowback” podcast. Season 1 is about the lead up to and the Iraq war itself and it’s so dense with information.
Its crazy reading Rogue State and hearing actual details about what happened at Abu Ghraib, it was legit SAW shit with horrific sexual abuse on top of it. Words almost cannot describe the horror they put those people through a lot of whom literally did nothing wrong, were civilians and kids
I remember in high school, when the war started. One day in Junior ROTC class, my senior army instructor came up to me and a friend and started ranting about how we couldn't trust an Iraqi person until they reach into their jacket, pull a chords and blow themselves up. I was 13, but I told him that we shouldn't generalize people like that, but he just kept repeating that line.
as an Iraqi, its really fucked up to see that we've been set back YEARS and are still barely starting to get back up after 20 years all because America decided to invade us for fun... many of us have lost hope in this country as things have only gotten worse throughout the years with people becoming radicalized and hateful due to all the lack of education and all the corruption in our government. thank you Hasan for covering this and letting everyone know the horrors of the US' actions and spreading the word to the youth around the world
If this fills you with rage, than you get angry pretty often when you find something you don't like. I just acknowledge it was bad, what do you expect?
It’s so hard for me to believe this was over 20 years ago. Man. I remember it all like it was yesterday. I even remember the teacher rolling in a TV to watch 9/11 in middle school. Wild.
I was 7 when we invaded Iraq so I was too young to really know or realize what exactly was happening, but I vividly remember having my teacher basically say to me that they (Iraqis) hate us and soldiers are going there to save us from the bad people there. Really weird and gross to remember that being normalized
My dad took me to an Iraq war protest when I was less than a year old. Now I'm almost 20. Pretty surreal. Very little has changed. Friendly reminder that congress hasn't formally declared war since WWII
I was 13 when they live streamed the bomb in of Baghdad and even back then I knew and felt in my soul it was so wrong and questioned my mom about why we weren’t looking for Bin Laden rather than Sadam. She herself couldn’t answer me and just confirmed that it was a terrible decision to invade Iraq. Thank you for speaking the truth on this subject. So many unnecessary innocent lives lost!
We must also never forget Fallujah, by far the worst war crime in the 21st Century. And yes, that is considering recent developments. The U.S has considered naming* one of their ships after it, as they are really proud of their war crimes.
I'm so glad Hasan makes these types of videos. I was less than 3 years old when the Iraq war started. Everything I know about it now comes from personal interest (and of course, accesible material like this video), because god knows they'll never teach this shit in school
Shoutout to Barbara Lee, the only member of Congress who voted against this madness. She was called a traitor and got death threats for it…oh man, Abu Ghraib…will never forget the picture of the woman soldier who had a man on a dog leash….💔
Watching all of these older media clips and articles is stunning. I remember how skewed the coverage of it was but forgot how widespread this was, in any other country all these people would be tried at The Hague.
Barack Obama, 2014: "In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, we did some things that were wrong. We did a whole lotta things that were right! But...we tortured some folks..."
i remember Coming to America and "learning" about the evil in the Middle East. I signed up to be a medic not to hurt others but, to help those wounded by the war. as i was there i remember working on Afghan citizens and continuously being told i was just wasting medical supplies. After an incident that almost cost me my life i remember being relieved that i was being sent home but, also upset that leaving there meant that one less person would actually try and help those citizens. I went there to help those in need but, that's not why the U.S. sent me there.
One of these days Hasan should do an America lore stream where he covers every American intervention for the past 50 years in the order they happened. I think many of us could use the education.
I remember watching 9/11 at school in 4th grade and getting called to the living room when the shock and all footage took place. The media painted such a gross representation of what actually happened and I bought it and began watching Fox news after school each day with my older brothers. Somewhere around 2003, my oldest step brother just mentioned "How has there still been no evidence? We've killed so many." Luckily, we enjoyed watching the Daily Show with John Stewart, so we started to see what was really going on. I then watched the Chapelle skit about black Bush and the oil, and a few stand up comedians that were talking about it. I realized by the 4th anniversary the whole thing was bullshit, and that was being from small Republican town Ohio. It's disgusting how much the media was jerking off what we were doing and how much people used to fully trust Fox. The propaganda was so strong that we simply ignored the civilian deaths as necessary sacrifices for "freedom". To those who are too young to remember, never trust anyone when it comes to war you know nothing about. Always see it from a lense of scepticism and on the side of peace. Listen to those who shows with verified sources on the other side. Hassan has covered most issues from the side of injustice, but not every single issue is the same. He is a thousand percent right and we ruined an entire generation of Iraq for absolutely no justifiable reasons, and we ARE STILL DOING IT! These war criminals need to have something severely not terms of service happen live on TV with a 1000 lost families in Iraq shown before every 1 war criminal we have.
I was born in baghdad during the war, saw things i never should have, forever has changed me and sad to say no one will ever understand how horrible it was.
Southern boy here. I got so much shit growing up for not supporting this war. It helps me to hear the passion and anger. I wish we could say we've learned, but we haven't. Thank you for the catharsis.
I remember to be 12 years old and in elementary school back in 2003 in germany. After the day of the invasion we had to form a sitting circle and our teacher explained to us that it may be troubling for you, but there is a war right now. The US is fighting terrorists. Even back then I was like "Yes, but what does it have to do with me? Both countries are thousands of miles away."
In a way it does affect us tho cause we are disgustingly close allies with the US. We have a huge weapon lobby that sends these weapons to military all over the world and we just watched our ally commit these crimes cause we couldn't do anything
@@irgendeinanonymertyp638 that's what operation Paperclip got us haha 😅 we gave y'all a free pass in WW2, now you guys are supposed to give us one (I am completely joking btw if that's not apparent)
I have friends who were in Iraq. One came home on leave and had a breakdown in my arms telling me about the things they would do to kids.....and we're Canadian. I can't even imagine the horror the american soldiers were putting people through.
I remember as a kid when they airing that live footage of Iraq bombing there were people In my neighborhood treating it like it was 4th of July chairing In the streets and lighting firecrackers
That nightly footage of artillery lighting up the sky like the 4th of July. Was probably the first invasion. Dubbed “operation desert storm” under Daddy Bush.
Alright I'm clipping that french Canadian insult out of context and putting that on my sound board. That was too funny and imma play it in the discord towards my friend in Quebec
American 18 year old here, this is the first time I've heard about shock and awe. Why is this the first time I've heard about this? What the absolute fuck.
There’s a very good reason why I was in the streets protesting this bs war. Protests being Astro-turfed and the absolute hippie-punching that took place at the time still infuriates me.
I love my father so much, he really is the man I aspire to be even a fraction of and I cannot begin to ever thank him enough for everything he's done for me and my family. But man oh man, it's sad to see how he went from the one who really got me invested in politics at such a young age because of his total opposition to the Iraq War, knowing from the jump that Bush was a liar and Cheney was pulling all the strings, to thinking Dick Cheney and George Bush have redeemed themselves for disavowing Donald Trump.
Bush Vs Gore. Shows just how important your president is at any given time. Who knows what Gore would have done, but considering a Florida court basically gave Bush the presidency…. It’s just a reminder that Florida has always sucked.
I wish Gore won, I don’t think he would’ve let this happen, he would’ve done more to fix climate change, he would’ve done more to have stricter gun laws, we truly missed out on him and Bernie Sanders as presidents
Gore was VP when the US sanctioned Iraq into millions of death and famine. Nader might not have been able to stop the MIC…but in 2000, that was the only chance. Florida might suck, but Democratic Party leadership are gutless.
21:10 Anne-Marie Slaughter as the name of Princeton's dean of the School of Public & International Affairs at the time is extremely unfortunate yet fitting in this context...
Especially at Fort Hood in Killeen Texas. Our Governor, Abbott, turns a blind eye to it! Sex trafficking, sexual assaults, and child abductions are rampant in Killeen!
I’m American, but I visited Iraq in 2021. I really enjoyed travelling the country and it made me feel twice as bad as I already did for being an American
When soldiers went into Iraq they were given orders to shoot anyone with a rifle, here's the problem with that though at the time there was a law in Iraq that said males over the age of 15 can have a rifle. I want you to consider how many people were killed because of miscommunication between the US military and Iraqi law and you probably understand why so many of them were trying to kill soldiers after that.
(TLDR: Was in the military and I bought into all of it for a long time.) I didn't join the US military until around 2015 but the amount of "training" I received painting all Iraqis, their religious beliefs and etc as ISIS, as evil people who needed to be destroyed and how America didn't do anything wrong was...A lot. And it worked. A lot of my friends were boots on the ground. The things they did there will forever haunt them and the military does not care what they made them do. I deployed to the middle east but just floated off the coast of Iraq when I was on a ship. This ship had a section dedicated to what happened on 9/11, part of the command indoc was to have it hammered into us that Iraq and it's people were still the enemy and that we were doing the right thing and if we were ever questioning it then we should visit the memorial. I bought into all of it for a long time until I threw up the Kool Aid that the military and media fed me. It's one of the many reasons why I gtfo of the military and stopped listening to mainstream media.
went to a talk on morality the other day, and didn't think I would ever see an absolute moral "relativist" in practice. Thomas Friedman said other societies can do their own terror bombings based on their own morals and it's equally as valid. But relativism doesn't work when you have this much interaction between societies with "different moral values." The relativist's answer shouldn't be to shove our morals down every throat that disagrees. It's let them fucking be.
Hasan not gonna lie, I’m a Christian and can still never disagree with what your saying. (A queer Christian be it so I do get a lot of bullshit…but) You’ve shown the world so much truth. I’ve felt I’ve gotten to hear so much perspective that seems our conventional American sources don’t have the funds to share. You are the true form of the American dream and also a true American for spreading equality and hoping to educate the American people. You get so much slack for your labels just like I do. (As well as wreaking the benefits of our capitalist society) and you don’t deserve it. This is why I’m never offended if you shit on shitty trans people;because you shit on everyone whose shitty. You judge people not because of their feelings or beliefs, but the repercussions of their words. Fuckin love you dude
I have a much deeper playlist on this, and I am working on publishing a web accessible view into the Journal of International Affairs' database of 108 US sponsored military interventions & coups since 1900.
I protested the war in 06-7 as a high schooler. Thanks for reminding me, it's hard not to just put it behind me, but it was some of the worst of human rights violations/war crimes/illegal war. It's difficult looking through the glass on the other side of a similar situation. It doesn't make the war of Ukrainian sovereignty less just, but it does add context to who we are as arbiters or proxy participants.
This is a small thing, but pulling down Saddam’s statue in Baghdad was a propaganda move by the U.S. military. Not something done by Iraqi civilians. There were overhead photos showing the area surrounding the statue was basically empty as U.S. military equipment pulled it down. Crazy to see lies, that I remember being exposed as lies at the time, just being repeated as if they were facts 20 years later.
I'll never forget laying in bed and seeing the Battle of Baghdad on the little box TV I had in my room. It's one of my most vivid childhood memories. I think I was either 7 or 8 at the time. It's crazy to think about the trajectory those events pushed out world towards.
Wow as an American I didn’t know this even happened and I’m deeply distressed that america literally pulled what Russia is pulling rn. Iraq deserves justice and I hope one day america can find a way to repay for the horrors we bestowed upon Iraq.
America has done this many many times over I am sorry to tell you. War crimes and massacres all over the world- Korea, Vietnam, all over south & Latin America. The Philippines, Iran… too many to count
After 9/11 the U.S. had some international goodwill…and they BLEW it with Iraq. They used to call Tony Blair “Bush’s Poodle” for leading the UK to just go along with the lie
Genuine (long, sorry lol) question, not trying to be rude, totally tell me to fuck off if you want, but i reeeeally wanna know some stuff lol: okay so, how old are you? Like how much of this conflict were you alive and not a child for? What, if any of this, did you know? Did you fully not know there was a war at all (you wording sorta implies this but i dont wanna assume you didnt mean the atrocities and not the conflict)? Did you have service members, esp those who served in afganistan, iraq or the gulf war, in your family? Were the ppl you were surrounded by/your fam apolitical, or were they politically involved? If they were and opposed the war, was it a situation where, like, by the time you were here for it, it had dwindled out of the American zeitgeist enough that ppl weren't talking about it (cause that did happen)? If they were and supported the war, were you not told because they also didn't know? Or was the propaganda just strong enough that despite opposing the war, they still didn't know? Basically, TDLR, just do you have any insight or guesses as to why you didn't know? Was it a case of them knowing but thinking they're protecting you by saying nothing? Sorry I'm just like, kinda lightly fascinated with how individuals end up not knowing about shit that went down during a huge 20yr conflict that JUST ended. Not in a "how could you" kinda way, in a "well how tf did that happen?" kinda way. So many ppl in the u.s. seem to legit not know a lot of this, and I know it's due to myriad factors, but holy shit may I have a primary source of your particular factors? None of my friends were uninformed abt what was going on then/didn't protest in highschool so like, can't ask them lol and I love me some primary sources yo, om nom nom give me that first hand account lmao Edit: spacing, good god that was a wall of text lol, my b
How about the video of the apache killing 30 civilians because someone had a camera they said was a gun. The Iraq war was despicable and there is no reason the US should be forgiven for what they did.
As a native-born US citizen, through all k-12+ school I've been to, the only time we discussed the Middle East in class was for ancient history. Everything beyond that was glozzed over and passive. But every year around 9-11, we were dished out tragic videos of the terrorist attacks. Every morning, we were forced to do the pledge. Those of us who are younger missed all of the coverage and information from the 2000s to around 2016, because we were literal babies. I'm 21 years old in my senior year of college and I have no idea what happened in Iraq. This is the first time I'm truly hearing about it without b roll footage of a flapping American flag and a choir singing about how lovely America is. Even in the news coverage of it, everything is so vague and shiny that it is hard to digest. All people know is that 9-11 was traumatic, and America is good. Without any other information around these subjects in schools (even colleges), it's easy to brush it off.
I was in 4th grade when the towers fell. We had a Sikh in class, wore his turban and all. His brother was almost beat to death because Americans are too fucking stupid to know the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim (and even if they had been are too stupid to tell the difference between a terrorist and a literal child in high school). His whole family vanished into witness protection the next week. What our military did overseas was horrifying, but what WE did at home wasn't any better.
Your just describing human behaviour.
The left are the literal GRAND MASTERS at group identity. Are you saying if sum1 in a maga hat slammed a plane into a conference center with blm or lgbt rally going on then ppl with maga hats wouldnt be targeted or attacked??
As a Sikh, that shit was crazy. They are such animals
if you look at hasans 9/11 video he does go into more about the hate crimes commited by americans against anyone who passed as a muslim
I agree, I was also in 4th at the time and I remember hearing racism for the first time from a teacher no less.. I went to school is South Carolina, granted but still. The kids act like their parents so those kids that beat up that poor Sikh kid are a mirror of their parents. Disgusting...
Hell my best friend was Romanian and they called him terrorist, idiots
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As an Iraqi I can't express enough how heart-warming it is to hear hassan use his platform to spread awarness of the war crimes that took place in Iraq. It was a butchery for every civilian involved, even the americans kids who were sent after the invasion with no knowldege whatsoever of what they were getting into.
As an American who grew up during the Iraq war, I am well aware of how savage and inhumane it was.
Much like the NAZIs first invaded and conquered Germany, the US military industrial educational complex first invaded and conquered America.
@@insightfulhistorian1861 many aren't lol
❤ to Iraq
im sorry
I remember protesting on the weekend the war was announced. And I'd do it again. How Blair, Bush and Howard weren't tried for warcrimes is disgusting. And the fact the America is still propagandising this shit is equally disgusting
Howard's acunt,
Damm Howard most of Australia would happily hand him to a criminal court in cuffs and cheers ..
John Howard still publicly defends this invasion to this day. Shame on him
I do food reviews while I’m high on my RUclips channel, first mexican to hop on the tube & do This 😂
Blair is valued and adored by the british elite it’s truly sickening
As an iraqi, I had my fair share of arguments with Americans when it comes to the invasion, and the amount of people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about is insane, I had an argument once with a guy that kept on mentioning a book by a soldier to rebuttal whatever I say when I LITERALLY LIVED THROUGH THOSE EVENTS, being that ignorant is crazy
Can you tell me if Hasan's number (that millions of civilians were killed by the US) is accurate? Because I looked it up and the numbers that are reported are tragically high but not in the millions (the estimates range from 100,000 to 500,000). A source would of course be best but I'd also just be interested in your personal insight on the matter since I'm asking this in good faith with no intention of "challenging" what you are saying.,
Edit: I found a reuters articlefrom 2008 that features a survey conducted by the ORB which in claims that the estimated casualties are in the range of 940k - 1.12m. And given the US's methods that poisened the ground and the water I can see that number having climbed up even higher in the last 15 years. So yeah .. millions isn't far off at all
@@Loeffellux those are estimates that are from the US and only count direct deaths due to conflicts, as in "US soldiers killed 100,000 to 500,000 people while in Iraq." If you count the deaths due to indirect causes, like the rise of ISIS and the destruction of Iraq's major infrastructure, as well as look at sources that aren't allied with the US, the number is closer to 2 million.
@@LoeffelluxI wouldn't call myself the best source to estimate that number but I know that alot of public sources straight up deny that battles had any civilian casualties, when that never was the case, especially in areas like Fallujah and around Baghdad
I remember teachers not allowing us to sit next to windows because how usual it was for stray bullets to just hit and kill kids, I remember having to evacuate school once because a nearby battle was closing up on my area, innocent bystander did die on these multiple occasions and you can hardly find anyone mentioning the victoms of such events
I mainly talk from personal experience considering that I've never been fond of political talks or politics in general, honestly whatever the number is, it doesn't matter, living breathing beings that absolutely did nothing wrong died on those events and for the media to not acknowledge that and label them as "terrorists" is disgusting
I'm so sorry for what you lived through, I'm German and i obviously have no idea what it means to go through something relatable, but from the bottom of my heart, i hope there will be justice one day and all these eastern countries which got destroyed by the west, will one day become the safe and beautiful country they deserve to be.❤
Maybe this brings you some comfort, in that we're currently gaslighting ourselves. Now we try to convince other Americans to not believe their own "lying eyes" when it comes to events like COVID and Trump's election. With stuff like QAnon there are plenty of Americans who seem to no longer interact with reality and live in a world of vivid black and white fantasy.
being an Iraqi that lived in Baghdad all that time that grew up with the invasion, my childhood was playing with the leftover helmets and bullets that you occasionally find in your backyard and even though my mother always yelled at me to not play with them because it's dangerous... it's all we knew at the time, waking up by the sirens sounds, also hearing any type of bombing and hiding under the stairs because it's the only rigid thing you can hid under that can keep you alive incase the bombing was on your house, always praying from the start to the end of the bombing that you're not next... getting your house invaded by military because they think you have some weapons that you're hiding, and when they don't find any they take any valuable things they can find, like my mom's jewelry, just because they can while holding us at gunpoints in our garden, i was only 4-5 years old when that happened, my father told me that the American soldier was panicking that i kept moving and couldn't hold a one position even though i was 4-5 YO... most Iraqis these days have those memories repressed, but they release them in this day every year to remember what happened, because we can't forget, we just lie to ourselves that we can forget.
Also wanted to say thank you to Hasan for talking about this, it's nice to see someone not pushing the usual American narrative of being rescued by the USA...
It makes me physically ill to think about what that must have been like. The sheer terror your parents must have felt… I can only imagine my own parents in your parents’ places, and me in your place. “Sorry” doesn’t mean much, but I’m so sorry that you and your family experienced that.
This is so terrible, thank you for typing all that out and reliving those terrors to raise awareness. My thoughts are with you and I hope you and your family can heal. This was not fair or justified, I’m very sorry that happened and for everyday of living in fear.
I'm American and I can almost guarantee this account is 100% Accurate. American soldiers are not quite as brutal as Russian soldiers, but they are known for two things: Airstriking the living shit out of everything before they arrive, and then stealing anything that isn't bolted down. They also love to shoot livestock for no fucking reason.
people like to call Russians looters, thieves and destroyers for stealing and destroying people's belongings in WW2 and Ukraine but as we've seen in this video the Americans did it too.
And people say British Imperialism was bad, as though it's not still happening, and worse, in front of our faces. God bless 'murca. 🔫
It's almost cathartic to see someone speaking on what happened to our country with such conviction.
There are days where I feel like we have been reduced to a page in a history book.
Welcome to the list of dozens of countries no one cares about that the US screwed with, the worst is they'll keep doing it and nobody will stop them
So were the slaves and all the trans people currently commiting suidcide, welcome to america
you havent, people all over the world remember, we all know what the imperial core did to you, we will never forget it
solidarity with you
@Audi hasan Fell off
So disgusted with how that interviewee talks about having to "show our might". Complete evil - our society is beginning to understand just how insidious the demon is that lives on this land.
bro they literally speak as if they're in a cringe anime
makes no sense how they FLEX ON KILLIN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLEEEEE
BOMBING WHOLE COUNTRIES
it's ridiculous man, it's embarrassing, it's unbelievable. the fucking balls on these pieces of shit to act as if it was heroic man.... ridiculous
The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
Conservative political right wing, ideology
Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
Human rights violations, we continue the saga
El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
And on top of that, you still want to take me to prison
Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They want to rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Read about the history of the place that we live in
And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children
Flow like the blood of Abraham through the Jews and the Arabs
Broken apart like a woman's heart, abused in a marriage
The brink of holy war, bottled up, like a miscarriage
Embedded correspondents don't tell the source of the tension
And they refuse to even mention, European intervention
Or the massacres in Jenin, the innocent screams
U.S. manufactured missles, and M-16's
Weapon contracts and corrupted American dreams
Media censorship, blocking out the video screens
A continent of oil kingdoms, bought for a bargain
Democracy is just a word, when the people are starvin'
The average citizen, made to be, blind to the reason
A desert full of genocide, where the bodies are freezin'
And the world doesn't believe that you fightin' for freedom
Cause you fucked the Middle East, and gave birth to a demon
It's open season with the CIA, bugging my crib
Trapped in a ghetto region like a Palestinian kid
Where nobody gives a fuck whether you die or you live
I'm tryin' to give the truth, and I know the price is my life
But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade
Like a fallen angel standing in the presence of God
Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They want to rearrange the whole point of view in the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Martial law is coming soon to the hood, to kill you
While you hanging your flag out your project window
He's such an unbelievable little man. Talks such a huge game to Charlie Rose, thousands of miles away from the people he denigrated, and he not only has such a disproportionate force he's defending, but it'll never be him firing a missile that kills 50 people when it hits the target. It'll never be him holding a family at gunpoint and maybe having to live with taking a life or several lives, he just gets to talk his shit from the safety of a TV studio and live comfortably, totally divorced from conflict and war because it'll never come to his doorstep. Just how close-minded and unsympathetic one has to be to talk the way he does is pathetic. What a little worm of a man that preaches this kind of destruction but could never even do it himself, even with all the tools to do it against defenseless citizens.
I have almost no doubt he’s a Zionist. Read the Clean Break memo. Zionist Neocons wrote the playbook for exactly what has and is happening in the Middle East. Bush was a useful idiot for neocons and the MIC
The fact that anyone at this point is still trying to justify the Iraq War is abhorrent
I had some dipshit tell me that the US invasion of Iraq isn’t comparable to the Russian invision of Ukraine.
And sure they sheer brutality of it maybe be slightly worse (that’s not exactly a flex) and the west never decided to annex occupied regions of Iraq, bush never denied Iraqi sovereignty.
Those Nuanses aside. Putin used the same half truths/propaganda that bush used to justify his invasion
>A dangerous and hostile regime threatening the lives of the invaders people.
>said regime has WMDs
>a radical (right wing) highly militarized minority group is operating outa said country and needs to be destroyed,
People who defend either invasion frankly are fucking hypocrites.
Hasan fell off
@@dmcrtsrule1744 you wish
Not just justify, many Americans are still "proud" of "our" work in the middle east...
They're either trolling or stupid af
Half of this video is Hasan cursing out the American media and I'm here for it.
I watched 3,000 people die in my state on live television in my homeroom class.
I was horrified at the senseless murder of so many, which only resonated into the future with all of the cancer that struck those effected.
Then, I watched in the same horror as we ended up doing 12 9/11s worth of killing in the span of a few months, literally leveling entire sections of cities, filled with the same kind of innocent people just trying to live their lives.
And here we are 20 years later. The more it changes, the more it stays the same.
America has been literally causing 9/11s all around the world, idk how they are able to sleep at night!
Overall death toll in Iraq War can be calculated up to 2.4 million with our destruction of food, water, medicine, healthcare, etc… And with sanctions its way higher than that too.. Utterly insane!
Being a European 10 year-old during 9/11 and its aftermath was so freaking weird looking back; this was one of the most brutal and unjustifiable wars in recent memory, but over here it was just some kind of weird background noise that children would sometimes see discussed in the magazines their parents read. No one really seemed to like it, but no one really seemed to mind all that much either.
When your consent was not needed it wasn't manufactured? Wow, that's crazy, I thought media's job was to educate people!
back then if you said anything against the USA you were considered an enemy. I am ten years older and was in Europe. the ignorance of people was disgusting
Maybe that was b/c you were 10. People went on demos every week for months, including myself. 15 Feb 2003 had some of the biggest protests ever all over the world, many in the EU.
Britain wanted the war as much as the US. Typical imperialism
@@utalotharingia Yes, and my goal was to specifically reflect the perspective of a sheltered ten-year old whose nation wasn't directly involved in the war. There is a weird coddling filter when you are too distant from the ongoing atrocities in the world, while the expanding media landscape occasionally washes in shreds of information you are too young to understand.
Everyone when Russia has Nukes: "Omg we can't directly invade them or do anything. They're too crazy and could kill a lot of people with their nukes""
Everyone when Iraq had "Nukes": "Lets declare war and level their entire fucking country to the fucking ground without fear of any repercussions because we're just that badass 😎"
Iraq never was claimed to have nukes even as the bush administration attempted to push the yellow cake smear.
Pretending hey were attempting to attain such a capability.
But it was all lies, even for the first one desert storm.
Kuwait was sidereal drilling into Iraqi oil deposits so bush sr administration created the Iraqis are putting Kuwaiti babies
On cold floors to die.
They had the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassadors daughter pretend to be a witness.
😂
the country was not leveled to kill Saddam, it's after that the big damage happened.
Difference is, Russia has 5000 nukes. Iraq would have 2 or so, and maybe chemical weapons, so they could handle that. But of course it was bull
is that a fucking dab emojj
remember : Iraq is just a very small part of what US has done😅
one of many, they have done this in every period of their country
Well what else stands out as well as this? Because this one was paticularly shocking so I wouldn't say it was a small part
No one talks about the concentration camps we had during WWII.
We’re in 12 off-the-book wars right now
Libya was the wealthiest and most stable nation in north Africa, and the whole of Africa by extension.... Until America and France brought them "freedom"
I feel like most Americans now a days feel like the Iraq war wasn’t justified, and would not object to the current admin allowing the ICC to investigate Bush and Cheney for war crimes.
There’s no such as “to little to late” when it comes to prosecuting war criminals.
Americans admit their mistake yet they do nothing about it lol. Iraq is literally still burning because of the US and the vast majority of Americans don’t give a shit.
They wouldn't do it unfortunately. It would mean presidents and high up politicans could be put in jail for their own war crimes
There were a lot of against it when it happened...
Too bad about the Hague Act
@@Cyanoblades approval for the war was incredibly high at its start. Anyone who spoke against, like Bernie Sanders, were called Traitor.
Hasan is spot on with this and I thank you for enlightening so many people still…20 years on
I hope you realize most Americans overwhelmingly agree the Iraq war was unjustified and completely fucked up. The problem is that after 20 years, people stop caring and get complacent towards the war. This is why there is zero accountability for war crimes in Iraq.
@@insightfulhistorian1861 Then maybe Americans shouldn’t try and pretend that they have higher moral ground when talking about Russia. What now happens is that we think Americans only care when white people are being killed.
I was only 8 when we invaded Iraq and I was 100% propagandized. I truly believed my dad was fighting for a good cause. I had no idea of any of Bush's war crimes until literally like a couple years ago.
Im iraqi and I was 8 when it all happened too. I can't go back to that country anymore, its just broken
Same I was brained washed by our media and older adults.
@@tomt4588 what’s ur point
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Same, I was 12 and thought the military was committing a sick ass liberation in Iraq. Completely lost in the sauce.
Never will you see a group of people more horny for death and destruction than the very people who never felt it
AMEN
thanks for speaking about it. it's not really a topic in Poland and yet we took part in such invasions side by side with the US
and Poland didnt even deny that they were there for the oil, unlike the USA. like at least Poland was more honest on this aspect...
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Thankfully Poland has a track record of being hateful, but not hypocritical.
"Thank you, Joe Biden" comes to mind. They knew who did it, maybe we can ask them even more questions
I’ll never forget that tik tok of a man attending an event where Bush was present and the man with tears in his eyes telling bush he buried his friends over lies. Unforgivable
I remember that clip too.
A veteran from the war no less
@@jesuusch exactly. It’s criminal how we treated all our Veterans
@@turbocharged6805 how we still treat them, especially the far right, they claim they love veterans but do nothing to help them
There's an SNL bit that's stuck with me from 2003, "war was not our first choice, it's simply the only one we considered."
I appreciate hasan putting up articles and definitions during the videos it’s really helpful when he’s describing stuff
To any people who aren’t old enough to remember or just don’t know much about the Iraq war I absolutely cannot recommend enough the “Blowback” podcast. Season 1 is about the lead up to and the Iraq war itself and it’s so dense with information.
I can still remember the near death experiences that I had from that war.
Sorry you had to go through that trauma.
@@NightMystique13 it's ok, i'm fine now thankfully
Its crazy reading Rogue State and hearing actual details about what happened at Abu Ghraib, it was legit SAW shit with horrific sexual abuse on top of it. Words almost cannot describe the horror they put those people through a lot of whom literally did nothing wrong, were civilians and kids
CIA boys will be CIA boys
I remember in high school, when the war started. One day in Junior ROTC class, my senior army instructor came up to me and a friend and started ranting about how we couldn't trust an Iraqi person until they reach into their jacket, pull a chords and blow themselves up. I was 13, but I told him that we shouldn't generalize people like that, but he just kept repeating that line.
Sure he did. 🤣
@@bass7100 someone wasn't in high-school during the start of the war, apparently. You have been reliably a dipshit in every comment section lmao
@@bass7100 You don’t think stuff like this happened? 😂
@@shuvari7707 just like all the jews going and painting swastikas on their Synagoges to show much hate they receive. 🙄
as an Iraqi, its really fucked up to see that we've been set back YEARS and are still barely starting to get back up after 20 years all because America decided to invade us for fun...
many of us have lost hope in this country as things have only gotten worse throughout the years with people becoming radicalized and hateful due to all the lack of education and all the corruption in our government.
thank you Hasan for covering this and letting everyone know the horrors of the US' actions and spreading the word to the youth around the world
Now you guys know how we Kurds have felt under your century king occupation.
If this doesn’t fill you with rage, there is something wrong w u.
If this fills you with rage, than you get angry pretty often when you find something you don't like. I just acknowledge it was bad, what do you expect?
@@JsphCrrll 🤓
@@JsphCrrll ok
@@JsphCrrll same, doesn’t fill me with rage
It’s so hard for me to believe this was over 20 years ago. Man. I remember it all like it was yesterday. I even remember the teacher rolling in a TV to watch 9/11 in middle school.
Wild.
Hasan is a better history teacher then any highschool teacher ive ever had
I was 7 when we invaded Iraq so I was too young to really know or realize what exactly was happening, but I vividly remember having my teacher basically say to me that they (Iraqis) hate us and soldiers are going there to save us from the bad people there. Really weird and gross to remember that being normalized
My dad took me to an Iraq war protest when I was less than a year old. Now I'm almost 20. Pretty surreal. Very little has changed. Friendly reminder that congress hasn't formally declared war since WWII
I was 13 when they live streamed the bomb in of Baghdad and even back then I knew and felt in my soul it was so wrong and questioned my mom about why we weren’t looking for Bin Laden rather than Sadam. She herself couldn’t answer me and just confirmed that it was a terrible decision to invade Iraq. Thank you for speaking the truth on this subject. So many unnecessary innocent lives lost!
I was confused too at the time why the response to 9/11 was to take out Saddam instead of finding Osama bin laden.
As an Iraqi, I started crying throughout the video, lamenting what happened in my country. Thank you Hassan for this video❤
Hasan poped the hell off on me during this stream on accident 😢 I am honored 🫡
caught a stray from hassy?
@@Johnnycpublic yes 😔
We must also never forget Fallujah, by far the worst war crime in the 21st Century. And yes, that is considering recent developments. The U.S has considered naming* one of their ships after it, as they are really proud of their war crimes.
Inshallah it will be sunk by a Dongfeng hypersonic missile
No you can't say Fallujah is the worst war crime of the 21st Century when the Russian army did worst in Ukraine, in Syria and in Chechnya.
@@ni9274 No they didn’t, lmao. The US did worse in Iraq than what Russia has done to Ukraine.
@@ni9274 you need to look up your information , before you speak.
@@ni9274 US did far worse in Iraq. Stop sympathising for US war criminals.
I'm so glad Hasan makes these types of videos. I was less than 3 years old when the Iraq war started. Everything I know about it now comes from personal interest (and of course, accesible material like this video), because god knows they'll never teach this shit in school
Bush: "We have to stop Saddam, who could facilitate terrorist attacks in the United States"
FBI: "Yeah, it'd be terrible if someone did that...."
We always need those foreign boogeymen to keep the public distracted.
@@insightfulhistorian1861 Hey, Tony Blair is foreign, maybe he can be the next target of the deep state
Saddam Hussein was objectively a better human being than Bush. Being a better person than bush isnt much of an ask to begin with,
Roses are red, violets are blue. I know Bush did 9/11, and so do you.
Do you think they left Bush out of the plans to crash into the towers cause they knew he'd just fuck it up?
Shoutout to Barbara Lee, the only member of Congress who voted against this madness. She was called a traitor and got death threats for it…oh man, Abu Ghraib…will never forget the picture of the woman soldier who had a man on a dog leash….💔
@Alreem Disgusting and shameful
The war on Iraq is a cursed event in USA history. The war should've never happened.
It was a massive crime and mistake, and the fact that countries like Russia or even China didn’t at least try to stand up to US aggression is telling.
Hasan fell off
@Blackwater TV that's how good the usa lied to the world
@@dmcrtsrule1744cope harder
As was vietnam... Korea... the Philippines... Libya... most of South America... etc
Watching all of these older media clips and articles is stunning. I remember how skewed the coverage of it was but forgot how widespread this was, in any other country all these people would be tried at The Hague.
Barack Obama, 2014: "In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, we did some things that were wrong. We did a whole lotta things that were right! But...we tortured some folks..."
Sad, that was the closest thing we have so far in terms of an US President calling it a war crime
Trump called it that way back when. I’m not a trumpet but I recall that on the news.
i remember Coming to America and "learning" about the evil in the Middle East. I signed up to be a medic not to hurt others but, to help those wounded by the war. as i was there i remember working on Afghan citizens and continuously being told i was just wasting medical supplies. After an incident that almost cost me my life i remember being relieved that i was being sent home but, also upset that leaving there meant that one less person would actually try and help those citizens. I went there to help those in need but, that's not why the U.S. sent me there.
One of these days Hasan should do an America lore stream where he covers every American intervention for the past 50 years in the order they happened. I think many of us could use the education.
I second this
I remember watching 9/11 at school in 4th grade and getting called to the living room when the shock and all footage took place. The media painted such a gross representation of what actually happened and I bought it and began watching Fox news after school each day with my older brothers.
Somewhere around 2003, my oldest step brother just mentioned "How has there still been no evidence? We've killed so many." Luckily, we enjoyed watching the Daily Show with John Stewart, so we started to see what was really going on.
I then watched the Chapelle skit about black Bush and the oil, and a few stand up comedians that were talking about it. I realized by the 4th anniversary the whole thing was bullshit, and that was being from small Republican town Ohio.
It's disgusting how much the media was jerking off what we were doing and how much people used to fully trust Fox. The propaganda was so strong that we simply ignored the civilian deaths as necessary sacrifices for "freedom".
To those who are too young to remember, never trust anyone when it comes to war you know nothing about. Always see it from a lense of scepticism and on the side of peace. Listen to those who shows with verified sources on the other side.
Hassan has covered most issues from the side of injustice, but not every single issue is the same. He is a thousand percent right and we ruined an entire generation of Iraq for absolutely no justifiable reasons, and we ARE STILL DOING IT! These war criminals need to have something severely not terms of service happen live on TV with a 1000 lost families in Iraq shown before every 1 war criminal we have.
I was born in baghdad during the war, saw things i never should have, forever has changed me and sad to say no one will ever understand how horrible it was.
Southern boy here. I got so much shit growing up for not supporting this war. It helps me to hear the passion and anger. I wish we could say we've learned, but we haven't.
Thank you for the catharsis.
I remember to be 12 years old and in elementary school back in 2003 in germany. After the day of the invasion we had to form a sitting circle and our teacher explained to us that it may be troubling for you, but there is a war right now. The US is fighting terrorists. Even back then I was like "Yes, but what does it have to do with me? Both countries are thousands of miles away."
In a way it does affect us tho cause we are disgustingly close allies with the US. We have a huge weapon lobby that sends these weapons to military all over the world and we just watched our ally commit these crimes cause we couldn't do anything
@@irgendeinanonymertyp638 that's what operation Paperclip got us haha 😅 we gave y'all a free pass in WW2, now you guys are supposed to give us one
(I am completely joking btw if that's not apparent)
I have friends who were in Iraq. One came home on leave and had a breakdown in my arms telling me about the things they would do to kids.....and we're Canadian. I can't even imagine the horror the american soldiers were putting people through.
My cousin was one of those people. He came back broken.
What was he doing to the kids?
as an Iraqi thank u so so much for bringing that up,my parents was in Iraq at that time.
I remember as a kid when they airing that live footage of Iraq bombing there were people In my neighborhood treating it like it was 4th of July chairing In the streets and lighting firecrackers
That nightly footage of artillery lighting up the sky like the 4th of July. Was probably the first invasion. Dubbed “operation desert storm” under Daddy Bush.
Alright I'm clipping that french Canadian insult out of context and putting that on my sound board. That was too funny and imma play it in the discord towards my friend in Quebec
American 18 year old here, this is the first time I've heard about shock and awe. Why is this the first time I've heard about this? What the absolute fuck.
This is just how the money game is run :/
There’s a very good reason why I was in the streets protesting this bs war. Protests being Astro-turfed and the absolute hippie-punching that took place at the time still infuriates me.
Thats why people who supported the Iraq war as grown adults should be made to wear dunce caps once a year.
I love my father so much, he really is the man I aspire to be even a fraction of and I cannot begin to ever thank him enough for everything he's done for me and my family.
But man oh man, it's sad to see how he went from the one who really got me invested in politics at such a young age because of his total opposition to the Iraq War, knowing from the jump that Bush was a liar and Cheney was pulling all the strings, to thinking Dick Cheney and George Bush have redeemed themselves for disavowing Donald Trump.
Damn, he bought the media's rehabilitation tour for them huh??
The best was when Bush was talking about Putin and accidentally inserted himself.
Bush Vs Gore. Shows just how important your president is at any given time. Who knows what Gore would have done, but considering a Florida court basically gave Bush the presidency…. It’s just a reminder that Florida has always sucked.
I wish Gore won, I don’t think he would’ve let this happen, he would’ve done more to fix climate change, he would’ve done more to have stricter gun laws, we truly missed out on him and Bernie Sanders as presidents
Gore was VP when the US sanctioned Iraq into millions of death and famine.
Nader might not have been able to stop the MIC…but in 2000, that was the only chance.
Florida might suck, but Democratic Party leadership are gutless.
Today is also the 5th anniversary we lost my little sister. She was my last, and only confidant in my family.
My deepest sympathies….😞
@@NightMystique13 thanks Shelley ur sentiment meant a lot.
21:10 Anne-Marie Slaughter as the name of Princeton's dean of the School of Public & International Affairs at the time is extremely unfortunate yet fitting in this context...
I can’t imagine what they were doing to the women over there, look how they treat female soldiers on U.S soil 😢
Especially at Fort Hood in Killeen Texas. Our Governor, Abbott, turns a blind eye to it!
Sex trafficking, sexual assaults, and child abductions are rampant in Killeen!
Theres not a heap of reasons you would steal wood of all things - the main one would be you need shelter.
i always love how passionate Hasan gets when he covers shit like this. He's got a great lexicon for insults 😂
I’m American, but I visited Iraq in 2021. I really enjoyed travelling the country and it made me feel twice as bad as I already did for being an American
"Remove Saddam's ability to wage war" sounds a lot like Putin's "demilitarize Ukraine" line
There are too many similarities between the Iraq and Ukraine invasion
This really remind me of Spec ops The Line and how much of a recreation it is of the invasion of Iraq
When soldiers went into Iraq they were given orders to shoot anyone with a rifle, here's the problem with that though at the time there was a law in Iraq that said males over the age of 15 can have a rifle. I want you to consider how many people were killed because of miscommunication between the US military and Iraqi law and you probably understand why so many of them were trying to kill soldiers after that.
I was listening to Bill Hicks' Iraq war jokes ten years after his death, in 2003. It was hilarious. Same name, same war.
(TLDR: Was in the military and I bought into all of it for a long time.)
I didn't join the US military until around 2015
but the amount of "training" I received painting all Iraqis, their religious beliefs and etc as ISIS, as evil people who needed to be destroyed and how America didn't do anything wrong was...A lot. And it worked.
A lot of my friends were boots on the ground. The things they did there will forever haunt them and the military does not care what they made them do.
I deployed to the middle east but just floated off the coast of Iraq when I was on a ship. This ship had a section dedicated to what happened on 9/11, part of the command indoc was to have it hammered into us that Iraq and it's people were still the enemy and that we were doing the right thing and if we were ever questioning it then we should visit the memorial.
I bought into all of it for a long time until I threw up the Kool Aid that the military and media fed me. It's one of the many reasons why I gtfo of the military and stopped listening to mainstream media.
Yup, the brainwashing starts from a young age. Youre lucky if you can start the deprogram early. Most aren't.
What led to you changing your mind?
I wrote a college essay for international relations about this. Thank you for covering this hasan.
went to a talk on morality the other day, and didn't think I would ever see an absolute moral "relativist" in practice. Thomas Friedman said other societies can do their own terror bombings based on their own morals and it's equally as valid. But relativism doesn't work when you have this much interaction between societies with "different moral values." The relativist's answer shouldn't be to shove our morals down every throat that disagrees. It's let them fucking be.
It is refreshing to see someone this upset about this topic. The pasion feels great compared to the usual apathy.
Hasan not gonna lie, I’m a Christian and can still never disagree with what your saying. (A queer Christian be it so I do get a lot of bullshit…but) You’ve shown the world so much truth. I’ve felt I’ve gotten to hear so much perspective that seems our conventional American sources don’t have the funds to share. You are the true form of the American dream and also a true American for spreading equality and hoping to educate the American people. You get so much slack for your labels just like I do. (As well as wreaking the benefits of our capitalist society) and you don’t deserve it. This is why I’m never offended if you shit on shitty trans people;because you shit on everyone whose shitty. You judge people not because of their feelings or beliefs, but the repercussions of their words. Fuckin love you dude
@Kenji Azurai true
But sadly people are beholden to social hierarchies like nationalism, religion, etc... because society shapes them
@Kenji Azurai I mean you could be gay and muslim idk you
The Blowback Podcast series on the Iraq War is unreal. Highly recommend.
I have a much deeper playlist on this, and I am working on publishing a web accessible view into the Journal of International Affairs' database of 108 US sponsored military interventions & coups since 1900.
Post when you have it done
@@GalacticNovaOverlord ok!
16:52 it's crazy that Cheney and Rumsfeld got away scot-free in hindsight
As an Iraqi I want to thank Hasan for addressing the thing all Iraqis have been thinking about for decades.
I need Hasan to make a recommended book list. I want to see history unfiltered like he does
I protested the war in 06-7 as a high schooler. Thanks for reminding me, it's hard not to just put it behind me, but it was some of the worst of human rights violations/war crimes/illegal war. It's difficult looking through the glass on the other side of a similar situation. It doesn't make the war of Ukrainian sovereignty less just, but it does add context to who we are as arbiters or proxy participants.
Remember the "Mission Accomplished" banner and announcement on that Navy ship? Then the war continued unabated
And Toby Keith singing about putting a boot up someone’s a** because “it’s the American way” 🤮
If anyone wants an incredibly comprehensive of the Iraq war and the events that lead up to it I'd really recommend the podcast Blowback.
This is a small thing, but pulling down Saddam’s statue in Baghdad was a propaganda move by the U.S. military. Not something done by Iraqi civilians.
There were overhead photos showing the area surrounding the statue was basically empty as U.S. military equipment pulled it down.
Crazy to see lies, that I remember being exposed as lies at the time, just being repeated as if they were facts 20 years later.
19:13 I died at snow Mexico. Please send ur condolences
This is the "greatness" we're supposed to want to return to.
I'll never forget laying in bed and seeing the Battle of Baghdad on the little box TV I had in my room. It's one of my most vivid childhood memories. I think I was either 7 or 8 at the time. It's crazy to think about the trajectory those events pushed out world towards.
Wow as an American I didn’t know this even happened and I’m deeply distressed that america literally pulled what Russia is pulling rn. Iraq deserves justice and I hope one day america can find a way to repay for the horrors we bestowed upon Iraq.
America has done this many many times over I am sorry to tell you. War crimes and massacres all over the world- Korea, Vietnam, all over south & Latin America. The Philippines, Iran… too many to count
I stg my fellow Americans at large appear to be clueless
After 9/11 the U.S. had some international goodwill…and they BLEW it with Iraq.
They used to call Tony Blair “Bush’s Poodle” for leading the UK to just go along with the lie
@@tbohn10 as a Canadian, I also knew nothing about this. Seems very intentional, glad ppl still talk about this
Genuine (long, sorry lol) question, not trying to be rude, totally tell me to fuck off if you want, but i reeeeally wanna know some stuff lol:
okay so, how old are you? Like how much of this conflict were you alive and not a child for? What, if any of this, did you know? Did you fully not know there was a war at all (you wording sorta implies this but i dont wanna assume you didnt mean the atrocities and not the conflict)?
Did you have service members, esp those who served in afganistan, iraq or the gulf war, in your family? Were the ppl you were surrounded by/your fam apolitical, or were they politically involved? If they were and opposed the war, was it a situation where, like, by the time you were here for it, it had dwindled out of the American zeitgeist enough that ppl weren't talking about it (cause that did happen)? If they were and supported the war, were you not told because they also didn't know? Or was the propaganda just strong enough that despite opposing the war, they still didn't know?
Basically, TDLR, just do you have any insight or guesses as to why you didn't know? Was it a case of them knowing but thinking they're protecting you by saying nothing?
Sorry I'm just like, kinda lightly fascinated with how individuals end up not knowing about shit that went down during a huge 20yr conflict that JUST ended. Not in a "how could you" kinda way, in a "well how tf did that happen?" kinda way.
So many ppl in the u.s. seem to legit not know a lot of this, and I know it's due to myriad factors, but holy shit may I have a primary source of your particular factors?
None of my friends were uninformed abt what was going on then/didn't protest in highschool so like, can't ask them lol and I love me some primary sources yo, om nom nom give me that first hand account lmao
Edit: spacing, good god that was a wall of text lol, my b
I understand you soo much about the things you couldn't say in the video.
Snow Mexico took me out ngl
this shits so fucking depressing because nothing has changed and nothing will change
When will Americans put their leaders on trial... Or are they all in their own world
I mean trump right now is facing criminal charges sooo
@@blackwatertv7018 lol theres worse then trump starting with bush and his pals
@@AdamAdam-vr8yi
Yes
If you haven't already I recommend watching the series "Once up on a time in Iraq" its a really good deep dive into the war and its consequences
*Coincidentally today is the first day of Ramadan Hasan. Ramadan Mubarak*
Alhmdullah
Ramadan Mubarak
Ramzan mubarak lil bro
@@deutschelehrer69 You're a Jew. Don't talk.
Yeah the moon looked cool last night. I pointed out to my Texan friends about it being Ramadan. They were like “que?”
I learn more from this channel, I swear.
How about the video of the apache killing 30 civilians because someone had a camera they said was a gun. The Iraq war was despicable and there is no reason the US should be forgiven for what they did.
American-Snow Mexican dual here, thank you for this and I am still rolling at snow Mexican. No lies about Canadians
The weapons were so advanced and technologically superior that they were able to hide themselves with no external input!
Incredible!
Thank you for making this video
We should never be forgiven for the betrayal we did to the Iraqis.
I didn't know about the Hague Invasion Act. This is insane.
My respect for hasan 📈📈📈
As a native-born US citizen, through all k-12+ school I've been to, the only time we discussed the Middle East in class was for ancient history. Everything beyond that was glozzed over and passive. But every year around 9-11, we were dished out tragic videos of the terrorist attacks. Every morning, we were forced to do the pledge. Those of us who are younger missed all of the coverage and information from the 2000s to around 2016, because we were literal babies. I'm 21 years old in my senior year of college and I have no idea what happened in Iraq. This is the first time I'm truly hearing about it without b roll footage of a flapping American flag and a choir singing about how lovely America is. Even in the news coverage of it, everything is so vague and shiny that it is hard to digest. All people know is that 9-11 was traumatic, and America is good. Without any other information around these subjects in schools (even colleges), it's easy to brush it off.
Same heren, man. Holy shit you're 100% right
hasan posting at 10am my time?! nice morning coffee content for me