You’ll Never Quit Pokemon. Here’s Why…
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024
- Video Game Video Essay explaining why you can't quit Pokemon. Why you keep returning to Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, why you will buy Pokemon Legends ZA, and why Pokemon TCG Pocket is so popular.
Be it the Pokemon Anime, Pokemon TV Shows like Pokemon Generations or Pokemon Evolution, or Pokemon Plushe. There is always something to come back to, reasons to why you will NEVER quit the Pokemon Franchise.
A Gaming Video Essay deep dive into game design within Pokemon, what keeps you hooked and wanting to play more.
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I maked fun of a friend who buys call of duty every year and says it gets worse but i never noticed pokemon was my call of duty
We are all the same 🥲
That is so funny
I don't hear of people playing big red one on ps2 😂 I'm still rocking gens 1-4 because the new stuff is not for me
I can kinda comment on this so my story is I started cod in bo1 played till vanguard flopped haven't bought 1 since similar scenario with pokemon I bought every mainline game from Silver to shining pearl where I kinda fell out of it just want in love with gen 9s pokemons design so the answer was simple I skip it still looking forward to gen 10 and yes I also skipped legends arceus after they done typhlosions design so dirty
if CoD introduced around 200 new unique characters every release, maybe
I still argue BDSP issue wasn’t the art style, it was that it stuck too close to the original versions of the games and disregarded changes made in platinum.
I think both played a big part, but yea I have no idea why they ignote plat
I mean when people still play Red, Blue, and Yellow, graphics surely can't be the Primary issue
The problem was obviously that it wasn't what was expected of a Pokemon game remake. It was terribly lackluster bevause of it and the art style didn't do it any favors. People were expecting a SwSh style Pokemon DP remake, not a terrible conversion of DS game onto modern hardware (An "HD2D" approach would have fared better if they wanted to go this route, I'd argue).
@@nintendonerdjosephmy exact thoughts. I still played through bdsp extensively because I never played the sinnoh games as a kid so I sort of enjoyed them but still found myself wishing they had done more for the games in art style and and content.
True, if they added Platinum's quality of life improvements, most of the contravercy would have been gone...
You can still criticize the games even if you enjoy them. I WANT The Pokemon Company to do better, because they have more resources than fossil fuel giants to make it so.
Critiques are valid. Game Freak isn't ruining Pokemon. CAPITALISM is.
But... but... think about the shareholder value!!
I want all the complainers to understand this. Whenever we get leaks we get to see almost complete work that literally had to be dropped due to time constraints or some other bs of that nature.
lol. There wouldn’t be any Pokemon games without capitalism but go off!
@@jetern1569 Capitalism determined how the profits from making Pokémon were distributed and that’s about it.
Maybe well get something good with ZA
So what I can tell after watching this video, Pokemon is like a drug that no one can quit.
I did
Those Card Packs arent gunna buy themselves...
@@Harvthepro097 I quit after diamond and pearl cause combat was too easy stopped watching the anime cause both the same thing over and over and stayed solely with Digimon. also never played either of there cards games
These games are unplayable little child.
*some of the funnest games of all time@@sampicano
I quit Pokémon... except I still replay the old games :(
Old games are GOATED
For sure.
I have every ds and 3ds pokemon game. It's my crown jewel to my gaming collection.
I have the new ones (none of the DLC) but I'm gravitating toward that stance. Currently doing W2 & Pt more than I am SV. I can't remember the last time I played one of my Switch pkmns.
DS Era was the Peak of Pokémon. Emulations still rock, no need to buy anything again.
It’s my comfort series I don’t think I want to leave it
Me 2
Same here!
Smokers be like
The problem for me is, no matter the flaws with graphics, performance, nat dex etc, the games are still a blast to play and I enjoy them a ton
Me too cambo, me too
Pokémon is just such a casual game to experience that just about everyone can find something of value. And for me as someone who in their earliest memories of gaming consisting of mostly Nintendo 64 games where I never completed the games and basically just explored the surroundings and playing Pokemon on the Gameboy SP, Pokémon today still makes up most of the very few games I've played to completion. The franchise basically formed my preference for games. Which is likely the same scenario as anyone who grew up playing Pokémon.
W take
I'm not the most able gamer, so Pokémon not requiring you to be dexterious is a plus for me. 😅
@@HimekoIzayoi Same. The last time I played a FPS game with a couple friends during a night out, it being COD, I had to ask them how to use the knife lol. That's how much little gaming experiences I have.
@@dwl9596I’m having difficulty imagining a night out involving an FPS
I think part of the reason Pokémon’s battle system is so excellent is because of how simple single-battles are (at least at the game level, I know competitive singles gets pretty complex), and how much depth double-battles have. VGC is fascinating and exciting to watch.
I used to hate VGC because I played smogon in gen 4-5 online a lot...
But giving it a try in gen 8 made me realize it is super cool. How every pokemon interacts with the others, def worth playing and watching.
I just find Pokemon's simple battles so tedious. I love the TCG, but I haven't been able to finish any of the games since Diamond.
I wish they were faster and had some more depth. If they borrowed SMT's turn system and regular battles used four Pokemon, it would be amazing, though.
@ I have long thought mainline games need a “hard” mode where everything is double battles
@@foxhound6364 It’s a small nitpick but I wish multi-hit moves didn’t take an eternity to finish.
I was a big Pokemon fan when i was younger but never actually got a chance to play official games, My love for the series kinda died out over the years but i was still cool with it. At some point my sister let me play Violet on her switch and I loved it to death, especially with the ending and its music. It caused me to go and emulate emerald, soulsilver, platinum, and black 1 and 2 so I can experience what my childhood couldve been like if my parents actually bought me Pokemon games instead of just putting it on the TV and buying merch. usually I’ll obsess over some kind of media for a month and it’ll disappear, but Pokemon has lasted for almost a year now. I love this franchise, and it will probably never truly depart from me.
Dang that is an awesome story. Thank you for sharing :))
I love the grinding, the shiny hunting, and most importantly to me, the collecting!
There's not another series that lets you collect creatures across decades of games and bring them all together in one place
That is a grest point. I feel like Pokemon is really THE series to connect your past gameplay to the present (via collecting pokemon into like Pokemon Home)
I need to get more into shiny hunting too, that always seemed so chillaxing
DQMonster does that. Shin megami tensei does.
If you meant to trade your pokemon from one game to the next then no.
@@raulrojas9253 yeah I still have the gift lapras from fire red I got the day I moved across my country. I brought it to many games, and now it rests in pokemon home so I will never forget my journey
@@raulrojas9253thats exactly what they meant lmao
Yeah, they gutted that aspect when they started restricting monsters you could transfer in 2019.
Yeah, unfortunately I was hooked when I was 5, so the yellow rat has ownership of my soul forever lol
Awesome vid, man, subscribed!
The blue squirrel took over my life, send help
He has my soul also and I don't even want it back😂
We are f*cked😭
me realizing this is the exact same quality level video of a million subscriber channel:
Hey I really appreciate that :)
I only have a few hours a week to work on RUclips so while my editing will probably never reach the fast pace of a lot of channels, I hope the topics and discussions within can keep it interesting. Thank you again for the support and I hope you have a wonderful day!
Totally agree with that
because when someone tries, the sue them lmao
Shh the Ninjas are among us ඞ
false, they never sued my top faves, nexomon, coromon, bulu mons etc....They sued Palworld cause obviously they ripped off everything that makes Pokemon great, and bluntly copy all Pokemon designs FACT
Cassette beasts, and other indie games I can’t remember have something to say against that… also creature collecting IS a game genre. It’s just that Nintendo has a strong domination over it
@@QuantumChristFalse. Palworld has no mechanical similarities other than catching monsters. Palworld may have used the Pokémon art style for its creature designs, but it was not bad enough for Nintendo to be able sue the devs. Nintendo sued the dev about a patented game mechanics that was filled after Palworld was released. FACT
@@QuantumChrist bruh don't boot lick nintendo, Palworld outclassed nintendo and made a better game than scarlet and violet and now they're retaliating. None of the pokemon designs were copied, just because they use a similar artstyle.
Another big reason for people not stopping playing these games, it basic psychological attamchment. It's not only about "nostalgia", it's about a safe space, stability (in an ever changing world) and about a rare franchise which keeps growing (with us), but also has a large variety to be enjoyed (Games, TCG, Anime).
Not to mention, that the franchise just sparks with creativity and is one of the most inclusive franchieses, which is why the LGBTQIA+ community and so many neurodivergent people are drawn to it.
I could state even more psychological factors, but the gist of it is that we're attached to Pokémon for FAR bigger reasons than meets the eye. Going even deeper into themes like "compensation", "self-development through fiction", "moral development", "Dopamine regulation" and even "co-dependency" or "addiction". It really is a fun and giant topic to be talked about, which - logically - does the things to our human brain it does 😄
The only reason I have a Nintendo Switch is to keep up with the Pokémon games. I'm 29, and I don't see myself growing out of it. It just be fun.
I've quit since Ruby Sapphire GBA. Constantly having to mash A 108 times a battle just to get through text stopped appealing to me fast, and based on what I saw in streams, that hasn't changed one bit.
I just finished legend Arceus and eagerly waiting for Z-A.
I still play gen 3 to 5 from time to time.
Pokemon is my first love of gaming and probably won't quit.
yeah i'll never quit pokemon
As someone whos played the 3ds games, The switch era of pokemon have been some of the most fun ive had ever had with gaming, even if i see things like graphics/glitches
3ds>switch is a good pokemon pipeline
I’ll never quit Pokemon ever. Me without Pokemon doesn’t feel normal to me.
I was gonna comment, but I see every argument I was gonna make is already here. So all I'll say is we should stop giving Pokémon Company our money so they have an actual reason to make their games BETTER, given that they do have the resources and even MORE MONEY than the actual NINTENDO Company to do so...oh and make them give GameFreak MORE time to finish said games, not hurry them on a deadset early release because that is the cancer of any videogame...always full of bugs and many other issues for hurrying a deadline. It truly isn't the developers fault when they are doing their best under such a dumb short period of time.
When I fell out of love a little, I found Pokerouge and Radical Red, fell right back in to it.
I quit Pokémon in high school and came back after college. I don't know if I'll ever quit again. I love the collection aspect of it. My HOME Dex is complete for now. I can't skip future games.
They got u hooked, just like me frfr
Meanwhile I haven't touched Pokémon since the Switch dropped and Monster Hunter Stories has fully replaced it as it is better in every way.
Haha, jokes on you I haven't played a mainline Pokemon game since 2021. My jrpgs now are Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy and Shin Megami Tensei.
Dragon Quest 11 was excelent I wont lie
SMT totally has replaced Pokémon games for me. They just need to do better if they want my money.
SMT and Persona is pretty great I wont lie. A lot more visual-novel-y than Pokemon (at least the old Pokemon games) but fun either way.
Same here. When I discovered SMT with Devil Survivor in 2009, I couldn't go back. To be fair to Pokemon though, SMT pretty much ruined all other RPGs for me.
SMT?
@@Ghostdragon529 Google it. It's better than Pokemon and came out before it.
It's been over for me after the recent leaks and Ive played almost every Pokemon game and have been invested in lot of them. I can't look at it the same way I did before
I quit Pokemon for Persona, and gotta say, its pretty hard to look back.
I went back to these games because of the recent release of Pokémon TCG pocket which I'm hopelessly addicted to. Managed to beat Violet and Brilliant Diamond some time back so I bought Let's go pikachu this time and to my surprise it's the prettiest pokemon game on Switch. Also it's just so nostalgic to be surrounded by kanto pokémon, I'm having a blast here. Cheers!
A thing to keep in mind too that the game is VERY mainstream. The hardcore base will absolutely care about the details but the kids down the street won’t. And they outnumber the hardcore greatly.
Great point. I feel the same way about Smash a lot of the times. I want certain changes, but lets be honest, 95% of players just play it casually.
You know you don't have to "replace" a game ya love, right?
You know there is nothing wrong with playing other games in a genre you enjoy, right?
I play Pokemon less and Yo-Kai Watch more not to "replace" it but cuz Yo-kai just gives me more fun and good game design to study and learn from. Maybe I am just not as much of a slave to my nostalgia as others?
I have been with Pokemon since Red and Blue and have played every main series game and even several spinoffs I adore like Mystery Dungeon and Colosseum. I will still tell ya with no hesitation that Yo-Kai Watch 3 is better than any existing Pokemon game.
I have a friend that loves Yo-Kai. I wish they could have lived in harmony but it seems that series has somewhat dissapeared past the 3ds :(
I Love Pokémon.
But i dont wanna quit them, because i enjoy all games, no matter what problem they have
The one consistency that will always bring me back to the Pokémon games are the Pokémon themselves!
I can’t never not love Pokemon it’s my childhood staple and it’s always so calm and relaxing I will continue to play it probably forever I think
Pokemon is a home to me. I love it with all my heart and it's a part of my daily routine and personality. Whether it's games, anime, cards, spinoffs or whatever else, I'd gladly enjoy it. It was the case 9 years ago, it is the case today.
All the criticism is absolutely valid, in fact, I'm not ashamed to admit many of the flaws those games have, though it got much more difficult to engage with community when there will always be THAT person or group of people to hate on you because you're allegedly not supposed to enjoy those games by their opinion.
And hey, SwordShield and ScarletViolet is still cozy and fan games, the Legends format was really a great surprise to me and I really think the game us great and Legends Z-A is super promising! So, maybe the games are not as good as we'd want them to be but it's just good enough to keep us excited I guess!
And, no, I'm not playing ONLY Pokemon games, I enjoy many other great Nintendo, PlayStation and crossplatform games that are better than Pokemon by a mile, so it's not having "low standards" or "not being exposed to good games", it's a lot more than that.
I feel a lot of those same things. Its nowhere near a perfect series but it is a very comfy one.
Also im so hyped for Legends ZA. Love myself some Mega Pokemon
I'm a huge pokemon fan, but I actually don't care for any of the games really. I played my first one ever earlier this year with black and white and it was.... fine. Idk, the gameplay loop is just not for me. (Maybe too much competitive game brainrot) But don't get it twisted, that doesn't stop me from buying excessive amounts of cards and plushies
This is a Pov I cant directly relate to but one I can understand. There is a lot to enjoy within pokemon. (And im addicted to cards too lets go 🫡💀)
The reason no other game will ever come close to pokemon is because nintendo will sue the shit out of anyone who tries lol
Bold of you to assume I need to buy them to play them
insert crappy *ONLY THE BOLD BUY CRYPTO* meme here
Pokemon is the epitome of childhood. Reminiscing back to the days of running around your neighborhood with your friends with a Pokeball and a DS in hand, exploring the wooded areas near you like you were going through Veridian Forest, and talking as if you were a trainer yourself. I think that’s the pure magic of Pokemon… allowing you to interact with the world in wonder and awe - seeing the world in all its beauty and grace.
While I was extremely disappointed in Scarlet and Violet (I think they’re unequivocally the worst games in the series) I still find myself going back to this franchise and playing the old games to relive that magic and wonder. That’s the key of Pokemon.
Exploring a new region and seeing the new pokémon is always fun ngl, say what you want about the franchise now, but at least we’re seeing new things
Bare minimum for anything ever
@@garfat9160 more than most of these AAA IP's these days, lets be real
I mean palworld replaced pokemon perfectly fine
I feel like Pal World is more similar to rust or any other survival turn factory game than pokemon for half the game lol. But the designs are great.
Real reason is because pokemon somehow has better rpg mechanics than most games. Similar to Yu-Gi-Oh.
Defense(shield) units in Pokemon get a move that works off that.
Exception to rules with freeze dry to do damage against water types.
Let you play a customized adventure with any unit(pokemon) you want giving it high replayability
Most rpg I've played can't hit every note even at their best. Dragon quest 3 was almost there but like most games they lack many key uses.
All true. And yo, Dragon Quest 3 is still fun to this day haha
@JoeKGamingEssays yeah I played it a few months back. Will probably play it again as it gives so much creativity to your teams.
It has a solid foundation, but I’d love to see more iterations beyond flashy gimmicks that only last for 1 generation anyway.
Also, and it’s a big one: they need to stop treating us like we’re stupid. When we fight gym leaders, I want them to actually have a strategy that I have to play against, not “oh I’m the X-type gym leader so I use X-type Pokémon, and you will sweep if you have even 1 Pokémon I’m weak to”.
@Scuuurbs yeah the older gens are very badly designed. They did do some weather teams but honestly they could make the gyms have 4 moves and coverage at least. It's easy mode as they have better mons but a challenge is what is fun.
Shin megami tensei has the best monster customisation. It blows Pokemon out of the water. With Pokemon you have to breed and waste a bunch of time hatching eggs to get Pokemon with insane moves. But in SMT just fuse the demons together and inherit their skills to create powerful monsters without wasting time.
The problem is we “gotta catch them all”
You know its our destiny....
damn, didnt realize you were a small creator till i saw the comments! keep it up man this rules!
Thank you a lot :D
I think this channel will likely always stay small since i'm not making videos all about one game / spamming "GAMING IS DYING" content consistantly.
But even so, RUclips has been super fun so expect the ride to continue for a long time!
Here is the thing: pokemon is a cultural phenomenon that will never be replaced. In Japan, It is part of their culture that it never be challenged like Digimon or Yokai-watch, just like how Dragon Quest never be replaced by THE Japanese JRPG.
Yea that is 100% true. Its kinda like us trying to replace disney lol
Worth noting that I have autism and Pokemon is kind of that "thing" which I got really attached to in childhood which I'll never grow out of.
I think this applies to a lot of people
THIS IS THE REALEST VIDEO EVER MADE. For years I've been in this back and forth between my love for the pocket monsters until one day I deducted that despite the horrendous stumbles and disappointing factors such as those disappointing graphics and in SV, I will always love it. Pokemon is a series where if you play 1 game to completion, even if you no longer play the games anymore, you will always love the media and the franchise. It's not only one of the biggest franchises in the world, making it inescapable, but it also holds such powerful childhood memories with such likeable and loveable creatures. Despite my attempts to constantly push the series aside, that nostalgic feeling that was embedded into me after playing BW has taught me that whether I like it or not, I am a Pokemon trainer until the day I die, for it is apart of me unlike anything else.
While making this video I felt the same way, I've tried to push the series off in the past but it is just a good time, even if it COULD be a great time its good enough for me.
This video was put together so well!
There's a number of things I like and dislike about the series. One thing I have to give them credit for is their designs. It's not for everyone, but I'd argue each monster had an idea in mind and likely went through several revisions to get it to where it is now. Some other monster series feel like they went with the first draft in the design department.
Thank you for the kind words!
And yea for the designs I agree. But like, when I compare pokemon games to other games there is ALWAYS at least 10-30 designs per gen that I like a good amount. And 3-5 that I love.
I think the newer gens have a lot more stinkers but also... a lot of the more basic ideas have beend one before and they want pokemon to be unique so its kinda a hard design place to be in im sure.
I thought about this yesterday but if pokemon were REALLY running out of ideas they could make like, A Zebra for EVERY mono type, and then EVERY mixed type and instantly create so many mons. They would be the laziest thing ever but it would work I guess. So anyways... Im glad they arent that lazy I guess haha
I clicked this video as someone who has already resigned myself from the franchise, so I was curious what you'd have to say. I can admit, it's gonna be hard to not pick up the next generation, and I might cave again like I did with S/V. I wasn't going to get the game, I hardly even cared, then bought it impulsively knowing I had basically avoided all spoilers towards pokemon designs and whatnot and that if I didn't hop on board everyone else would start talking about it. There's a bit of fomo involved in my experience, I have no way of knowing if I'll hit the same thing next year when they inevitably announce gen 10 two years earlier than they're ready to, but who knows. I'm at the very least planning to not buy it day one, but that could change. Legends ZA has been on my radar cause I actually really love the legends spinoff series but I will probably wait till it comes out and see what it's like before buying.
Honestly, I think the main reason people still buy the games is the hardcores have to, but even the more casual fans or even those who are somewhat removed from the franchise find it won't hurt to pick up one new game every 3 years. It's not a massive commitment. A year ago I woulda said no exceptions I'm not buying the new game. I even boycotted buying the dlc to sv cause I bought the dlc for swsh and never finished it cause I lost interest and didn't wanna perpetuate the issue of mindless buying, but there's story I've missed out on that I do kinda wish I could play. It's honestly complicated, even as someone who doesn't care for pokemon all that much, it's just nice to come back to it every once in a while. My replacement franchise, digimon, has the issue of not really having that many good digimon games, and thus it doesn't fill the void of personally going thru the world and discovering new creatures.
Good video. Even though I barely touch the official titles anymore, I still have tons of fun playing and making videos on fan made ones (hell, I even made my own)
I quit modern Pokémon, but I’ll never quit playing the older games.
Not a bad strat
Look, I love Pokemon and always will. I know have the money to buy anything I want thats Pokemon, so I'll keep enjoying it forever
As far as the drama over quality goes, I think it helps that none of those bugs are gamebreaking (usually), and they were a lot more rare than the internet would have you believe. I've got about 500 hours in Pokemon Scarlet and I never encountered a single memorable glitch. I'm almost disappointed about that, given how much they were talked up. And I started my game within a few days of launch, too. I'm not going to deny that there are serious issues with modern Pokemon games (Arceus knows I'd love to see Gamefreak step up their game), but often they're overblown by permanently online people with nothing better to do.
Scarlet and Legends were two of the most fun Pokemon games I've ever played, despite all the flaws.
Having been around since the very beginning of Pokémon’s inception, I’ve been hooked since the very start. What does it for me is the curiosity of new Pokémon, running through that new region with only new Pokémon and getting to know them. And eventually: the competitive scene for Pokémon. I enjoy the multiplayer and love to see what the new Pokémon have to offer for the competitive scene. That’s just my itch and I know it isn’t for everyone.
Besides the competitive scene, I also enjoy ribbon collecting and shiny hunting. So there’s a lot for me to dig into to keep me satisfied until the new generation comes around. And it lasts longer for me because of that multiplayer aspect. For the people who complain about “there’s nothing to do”, are certainly not PvP players. Which is a huge downer, because they are missing out on a lot!
I'm not going to lie. I have never done any ribbon collecting in any game. That is not a popular genre on RUclips so I know nothing about it. Care to help a clueless guy out?
I'm in a weird position with Pokemon. I quit after Generation 6 because it pissed me off to no end that they got rid of the battle frontier in ORAS... (Ash losing the Kalos League didn't help their case on that front either.) I didn't touch Gen 7, I didn't touch Gen 8, and I have only just played Gen 9 because someone bought it for me.
What kinda brought me back was Legends Arceus. I really enjoyed that game due to how different it was, how interactable the Pokemon were, the Action RPG elements it's great. Now after tolerating Gen 9, I think I'm only going to stick around for the Legends Games. I might "borrow" gen 10, or play a romhack every so often, but I just can't really support the mainline games financially unless something drastically changes going forward.
I wonder if gen 10 will yoink legends arceus mechanics or just go completely another direction. Time will tell
I did quit it. Since 2022 I've managed to quit it. I played almost every games, I collected a lot of cards, watched the entire animated medias and read everything. But I felt so betrayed by Pokémon those past 6 years, I was just a natural "death". Sometimes I play romehacks, showdown, pokerogue but it's not the same has before. I still know the entire lore/pokedex but I cannot tell that I'm a Pokémon fan anymore.
Even tho I'm dropping this licence, Pokémon will have a special place in my heart and I will always be thankful that it was in my life.
A big part of for me are the fan games. I still like the official games mind you (Albiet I have my gripes like most), but the world of pokemon fangames is a weirdly high quality, surprisingly varied yet still familiar, and almost infinite quagmire that is genuinely impossible to escape from.
Pokémon is my comfort series, I always know what Im going to get no matter the generation the core of series is the same
Pokemon is fun :))
Everyone complaining about Pokémon first off, still buy the games, second, Are the super minority compared to the Majority of people buying Pokémon games.
which are parents / grandparents.
In the end of the day, Pokémon is a children's game.
Children don't know any better, and it's a easy gift for parents and grandparents to gift their children.
We're fighting an up hill battle here...
Yea I think the only thing that would make pokemon dissapear is if there was a HUGE downgrade in designs and release schedule but I dont see that happening
I'm really enjoying VGC today, which I was never able to do before this generation. Hyper training being available from level 50 and move relearning without cost was what I needed to be able to enjoy that and Scarlet and Violet offer that.
I don't think it's that we will keep buying them, but that pokemon is universal. Like how people still play Tetris, old and new. I didn't enjoy scarlet and violet exploration, but story, music and team building was awesome.
It did a lot of good along with a chunk of bad
I wish they hired more people, its suprising how small the teamd are for such a huge profitable franchise lol
That's something else they have. There are many more pillars of player experience than just exploration, like the other aspects you like.
I'd go as far as to say exploration has actually always been secondary to either collecting, team building, and battling
0:08 when will people learn the technical nonsense does not and will never matter
We keep getting sucked in because of the world and the lore and the characters
Those are the things they keep improving on because those are the only things that matter
games like cassette beats succeed imo when they carve their own niche rather than trying to be the same
Big true. That game was an amazing change of pace while still feeling at home. Highly reccomend that game
Hmm... but I quit mainline Pokemon already... I borrowed Pokemon Shield and between the very beginning and the first gym I encountered 4 Pokemon and 3486 NPCs telling me stuff I don't care about. Scarlet and Violet I didn't even have to borrow. I would rather revisit Alola than giving this mess a try... and we all know about the handholding of these gen 7 games...
Really good video nonetheless!
The new games REALLY dont want you to get lost in the first hour lol. kinda frustrating I wont lie
BUT the old gens are always there for us to grind out luckily.
(Also yea, gen 7 was rough. Ive never replayed a gen past 5, but those first 5 I play at least once a year so its all good haha)
Yeah same pretty much, I got halfway through scarlet, decided I just couldn’t bear this actually atrocious quality from the most profitable media franchise ever and just stopped playing
Like I wanna love these games, but I’m not gonna do it unconditionally, they have to actually be good and not rushed out year after year
It’s a shame, Scarlet and Violet have amazing storylines. They’re good games.
@@orangeoblivion Scarlet and Violet are by definition not „good games“… they are actually crazy bad, but because it‘s Pokémon, everyone gives it a pass… it plays worse than many mobile games and if it was a standalone title no one would have bought it.
Let‘s face it: When everything sucks except for the story („amazing“ is a big word for that tiny bit of story you get in comparison to other games), why would I play a Pokémon game? There is nothing Ni No Kuni wouldn’t do better than Scarlet/Violet when I‘m not playing competitively…
I’ve loved Pokémon since I was a kid, starting with Pokémon Blue and my first starter, Densuke (Bulbasaur). Now, over 20 years later, I enjoy playing with my niece-exploring on Miraidon and Koraidon and started playing Pokémon TCG, even if it’s a bit expensive!
I’m looking forward to playing Pokémon adventures with my own child someday. 😄
Was that the goddamn TFS SoulSilver Nuzlocke footage you just slipped in there at 2:26 🤯
Honestly a lot of the complaints people have had with modern pokemon haven’t really changed my opinions much at all. I played Sword and Shield and Scarlett and Violet a month or so after release and most of the major bugs were resolved by then. The design issues just didn’t bother me, if anything I think the limited pokemon pool was cool since you were kinda pushed to play with the new pokemon
I love to just fully immerse myself into the games like I’m actually the one catching and bonding with my pokemon while exploring these beautiful regions
Started collecting pokemon for my son as hes 5 and getting into the game. Wanted to have a complete collection to help him along the way. Welll i ended up getting hella sucked in, almost complete living dex in home and ive been learning about VGC 😅
Wolfey fan located haha
Something i would love to see them try is implementing action commands like in the mario rpgs. I think it could really spice up the gameplay
Honestly for me, Pokémon’s always been my comfort series for the main story and characters of the main series, the anime (Diamond and Pearl, Sun and Moon and Horizons being my favourites) and the Pokémon themselves, sure some of the games aren’t the best (looking at you BDSP and forcing the casual player to build a competitive team just to finish the main story) and I’m stay away from competitive because I don’t think I’ll enjoy it but I’m never leaving the series I love so much behind (Also I enjoyed Sword and Shield and Scarlet and Violet dispute all the bad visuals and glitches)
Ive never given horizons a watch. what is good about it?
I grew up with Pokemon and played a game every gen and.. yeah, it feels like home. Even if, *for me*, Legends felt a bit off the mark with the battles (my favorite portion of the mainline games) and progression and I haven’t replayed it since I completed the Dex, I’ll probably still pick up Legends ZA. Confession: I enjoyed BDSP far more because of it hitting those notes that I do enjoy in battles.
I think the other part of that is trying to follow almost anime/vgc style rules where I can, like same number of Pokemon going into the battle for Gyms/Grand Trials/E4, self-locking my level training to not exceed that of my next challenge, only hold items. Add in replays as monotype runs. Adds some fun challenge and exploration of Pokemon I may not normally use.
The games may have their issues and areas where they can improve but..I love the simplicity and home-like feel of it, especially as my kids are showing more interest in it.
When you grow up with something and spend so much time with it, it’s hard to let go of. I’m 27 and still love this series with a passion.
Pokemon Platinum my beloved
The battling has gotten better and competitive training has gotten easier and easier since gen 6
I wish each Pokemon had their own art styles and effects from the trading card games as well as combining the Pokemon TCG virtually with the video games and switch playing from one Pokemon game to another as one big giant game. Imagine every single Pokemon trading card game ever made and every single Pokemon video game ever made combined into one game that anyone and everyone can play (single or multiplayer). There is infinite future potential in the series.
That would be so cool
I think the older gens had more Adventure to them, where it felt like you were exploring through forests, caves, tundras all while trying to be the best. While there's some of that back with the openness of Gen 9, it has felt like it's disappeared a good bit with the switch games. So much fidelity hasn't been utilized to the full level like it used to.
Despite me liking Pokèmon, I parted ways with Pokèmon because of the fallout especially when the Mega Evolutions came to existence. I moved on into Digimon and other monster franchises.
I still keep in touch with Pokèmon despite the fallout.
"Looked a little bit better in execution" is like the most underhanded throw to S/V I've ever heard, and this is the problem with us Pokemon fans. We let them abuse us. The new games are barely functional pre-alpha builds. I've never seen a company railroad a fanbase so hard, and the best we've got is "could have looked a little better." This is why it will never BE better.
One of the greatest strengths is the shortness and replay-ability. Having a game with as many creatures in it as they do lends to each play through being different. You mentioned how you can dump hundreds of hours into it getting into competitive or shiny hunting, or just enjoy the main part of the game casually and it's not a huge investment. I'd add that the short aspect of the games, gives another option where you can dump hundreds of hours playing it over and over, and it can still be somewhat fresh. There is a reason pokemon challenge runs are such a thing.
Pokemon just has a perfect loop of basic engaging mechanics at it's core, with (like you said) some really awesome ideas each gen with world building and gimmicks, that even if they aren't fleshed out that well, it's honestly not the biggest deal, because they're not putting all their eggs in that basket. Would it be nice, sure! But there is still enough good stuff there for a tasty little meal.
I think for me, it's because even if you don't like a certain aspect of the Pokémon franchise, there is so much other angles you can still be part of. Like I don't have Scarlet and Violet, only tried it out from a friend of mine, but I don't actually have a copy because of obvious issues. But I still really love the anime, the lore, the etymology and designs, the cards, other aspects of the franchise. I think the games' current way of battle mechanics not being changed is just simply due to them hitting perfection for the intention of Pokémon being "baby's first RPG". The rules and mechanics are easy to learn, while there's other elements in the battles that make it "dedicate to master", like Nature, EVs and IVs, and team synergy. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", and they probably know if they changed it drastically, it's lead to alienation from their current VGC player-base. That's why they got other games than just the mainline titles. It's why I love the direction they're going for the Legends series. For those who think the mainline formula is becoming stale, let alone them getting to be more experimental. If anything, Pokémon's ideas and concepts allows other people to, well, build upon them for the monster taming genre. Good lord I am for my own fantasy universe I'm making.
Side note: Yeah I'm currently addicted to TCG Pocket. I think they struck platinum in making a really good F2P Pokémon game. The game is really F2P friendly. They give you enough cards, Basic and pretty strong, to make a battle deck, at the start. Then there's the actual F2P loop. Big reason why I think this game is addicting is because this game DOESN'T WASTE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. The daily loop is simply Log In, Open a Pack, then if you got the stamina: Wonder Pick. Got the time? Battle. Don't got either? Don't worry just wait for 12 hours of the day and open another pack and boom Dailies done. 4 hourglasses right there. Every 3 days of dailies equal one extra free packet, and I think this loop is brilliant. Heck, the battle part you don't even have to do online battles. The event rewards, like Promo cards, are obtained in the solo mode only. Even for online battle rewards, you get rewards for simply PARTICIPATING. Winning gives you only a bragging rights emblem XP on top of it.
As someone who started in Gen 3 with my GBA SP (still have it), it's still fun to play and glbest for casuals. Current generations on thr Switch is even more challenging and fun, especially with the advent of Shiny Hunting. Shiny Hunting in the newer games is fun and enjoying. It's even more exciting when you found a shiny you want in Poke Radar or Dynamax Adventures (I caught my Shiny 3rd legendaries already and despite the struggles, I'm happy that I got them).
Shiny Hunting in Pokemon is somewhat the best to spend time and chill, whether you have the Shiny Charm or not.
I love Pokemon no matter what. Anime, cards, games, figures, doesn't matter. When it released as a kid in the 90's, I fell in love with it and has never stopped being a part of my life, could imagine a life without it.
Because the game is marketed towards kids. Even if adults don’t buy for whatever controversies. The games will always sell to kids around the world.
Fair, but there are a LOT of games marketed at kids so while that is a good reason it keeps chugging it definitly isnt the only one.
@ the second reason is based on the same reason Mario will always sell. It’s a formula that works and has generations of players. Grandparents, parents, aunts, uncles who do not pay attention to controversies/social media will buy the game for kids.
The kids who play at school will provide free advertisement. Pokemon has too much history and strength to not sell. They sell like crazy despite having Jinx which was interpreted as a racist slur (blackface).
They lost me in the Switch era. The 3DS games were already hit or miss, I did enjoy a fair share of what they had to offer, but... At the same time the magic that I loved about the series was fading away. The Dexit announcement was the final nail in the coffin, and by the time SV got announced the worst had happened: I didn't care anymore. Not love, hate, or even fear; only pure, unadulterated indifference. And that's probably the worst emotion you could instill on someone that used to call herself a fan.
To me, what made Pokémon a magical experience, especially in the GBA-DS era (with BW2 being when this reached its apex) was the ability to use the creatures as a device to bring me into an expansive world, a world where there's so many details to dig into, so many little stories to be told and battles to be had. Grinding had a purpose, for example to be able to beat those stupidly hard champions in the PWT tournaments, whereas in the newer games no such facilities to actually use the Pokémon you've put so much care into exist. Stories took a chance to take themselves seriously, starting with Platinum and the gen 5 games, and, while I'm glad games like SM or SV have tried to follow on that, it's hard to forgive the trash writing on XY, USUM or SwSh. In any case, everything was this grand adventure that had polish, detail, a ton of secrets for you to discover, and reasons for me to sink hundreds upon hundreds of hours upon a single save file. The lovable creatures were just a means to an end, in this sense.
And all this rambling brings me to the point you put about the games now being just a few dozen hours and done. Yep, that's my problem. Shiny hunting isn't meaningful at all, and without this amazing battle facilities why should I care about raising my favorite Pokémon in a scenario where I can see them shine? They removed my main reasons to want to play at all, and being that one of those reasons used to be, as a long term goal, that I wanted to raise by myself every Pokémon possible because I enjoyed that sort of grind, so it's easy to see how the Dexit announcement destroyed all my passion for that project.
The irony? Nowadays I've found a game that to my weird self is pretty much what I always wanted Pokémon to be, and that is... Genshin Impact? Yeah, I'm not kidding. I have my fair share of adventures, an expansive world with lots of secrets that keeps growing and growing, and building my characters scratches that grinding itch that I used to have with the National Pokédex. Sure, gacha and everything, but for me the characters are just a means to an end, just like the Pokémon were in ye old days. So yeah, in a weird twist of fate, Genshin is my new Pokémon, somehow.
If you, dear reader, somehow got to the end of this wall of text with your sanity intact, I salute you. I guess I got a bit too passionate about my story with this particular franchise about cute elemental animals.
Tl;Dr DO NOT GET INTO GENSHIN IMPACT. I DID AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF MY LIFE ARE GONE RUNNNNNNNN
@JoeKGamingEssays Too late, I've been AR60 for a year already ahshsjdjsj
It never faded away you just griped on the wrong aspects
What made Pokémon magical was the world building and the lore and the characters
@@madnessarcade7447”what makes Pokémon magical” is largely subjective and will be different things for different people, that’s kinda the beauty of it
You coming in and trying to impose your view on someone else quite honestly makes you a bit of a dick
Because once Westerners have a favorite, it’s hard for others of the same genre to be popular.
good point
Haven’t even started the video yet and I already know why I won’t quit. Not only has Pokémon been my childhood but it gives me feelings that no other games has besides cyberpunk 2077. It allows me to have these cool ahh pets to, battle, play, dance, feed, ride them, that I couldn’t otherwise irl . Not only that the characters, the stories, the settings are just so beautiful, even tho I only play the mainline the most I still find my own role playing ways to have fun even within the “bad” games like sv or swsh. This is gonna sound cringy as fucc but Pokémon isn’t just the biggest gaming franchise ever it’s a lifestyle that even as an adult I’m not willing to give up no matter who Nintendo sues or does to the games. Also multiple player is an amazing thing they added me and my friend tried it out once and it worked perfectly sadly he’s lost motivation to play the game so I have no one to play Pokémon with at all but that’s fine.
As a die hard fan of Pokemon when I watched its anime on my childhood, played and finished Blue and Gold while I didn't finish Emerald. So yeah, I outgrew it fast than any other series lol.
i just love animals so pokemon is my ideal fantasy world. Also I'm a nerd so VGC is one of my favorite games
vgc is awesome
From my understanding, its an addiction, once you get into it there’s no getting out of it no matter how hard you try lol
Idk I wouldn't say most people that go watch the new Star Wars films are addicted, they are just connected to it. (Ok, well, some star wars fans get addicted but not the general public haha)
I always like playing the new games and occasionally going back and playing the old games honestly. I played Gen 3, Gen 5, and Gen 7 (sun and moon) ALOT
Out of nowhere, I decided to transfer all my Gen 4 Pokemon up to Gen 8 / home after not playing for 15 years. I’m hooked for life
That sounds so hard but worth
@@JoeKGamingEssays For sure. Grinded for a whole month through W2, Y, ORAS, US back to back. Glad it's over and my Pokemon are safe in Home before Bank shuts down. I have Sword and Violet and won't even think about playing those until summer of next year. Getting Za when it comes out so def hooked for life smh
I haven’t played much Pokemon beyond Gen 5. I just grew out of it mostly working a full time career.
Never played any of switch pokemon games and never will, still sticking to the previous ones
I havent replayed the switch ones ever but the old ones do just feel good
Palworld kinda took my attention
Me too, but its kinda gone now
Everyone is still looking for that perfect Pokémon game. We are still very hopeful. If gen 10 is not a hit I’ll leave the rest to my son. I’ve played since gen 1 and I’m 35 years old. I feel gen 10 should utilize most mechanics like mega evolution, dynamax, terrestrialization, and gen 10 should be fusion. That would make Pokémon battles sooo surprising. You don’t know what someone is going to pull out on you. Also you should be able traverse to past regions. Each region should be a dlc.
It’s very simple and fun, there’s also the nostalgia and they’re one of the only games that actually experiment and add something new almost every game (remakes aside) you look at 2K and COD and it’s a lot of the same old same. New guns, same goal. NBA, updated roster, same game. With pokemon you’ve got usually 100+ NEW PKMN to discover with new abilities to experiment with, competitive play opens your eyes up even more and adds a new element to the way you look at stats and whatnot, it’s a simple formula but there’s so many variables you can’t help but be excited to start new journey time and time again. Playing the old
Stuff on Delta, I actually appreciate SV more cuz of the ease of play. No HM’s, I can focus on having better coverage moves and whatnot, I can catch almost anything right out the gate without having to wait till after the 8th gym to finally get a pseudo that I now have to grind for hours just to use it for 5 battles and be done with the game. I genuinely
Believe Pokemon can only get better and PalWorld is a great example of how much further Pokemon CAN go
TemTem was close for me until i got to breeding. i was SO CLOSE for perfect EV breeding. basically 1 point off. but then i ran out of chances since you are limited to how many times you can breed in a generations. then you have to start all over.
i do enjoy the difficulty of TemTem though. feels far more difficult than pokemon