Play Scarlet Witch At A GM Level! | Marvel Rivals Scarlet Witch Guide
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Better than anyone thought, Scarlet Witch is capable of playing extremely well when used properly! The tier lists that have her in D or F are completely wrong, and she's probably closer to an A tier than most people think!
Edit: Finally hit Plat solo queue, almost Plat 2!
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Easily the best guide I've ever seen! Very thorough and your detailed strategy breakdowns were 🔥 I appreciate the time you put into this video. Subbed!
Wow thanks! Just want to be helpful, and give what I think are accurate expectations!
lord scarlet witch here & she is the ultimate hide and seek character i love her
How did you feel about the playstyle I laid out?
Thanks for the guide! I've seen people play SW in high elo, but I honestly had no idea how they were doing it. I'll try out some of the tips from this video, and maybe I can bring her out when we have a good Magneto on the team :)
Thanks for watching! I play her as my default choice, but will then change based on team need or if I run into some hard counters. A good spider man or namor can be tough for me, or other ranged DPS when our tanks aren't closing in on space, so I have several fallbacks that I enjoy going to.
Let me know how it works, and stop by my streams on Twitch!
I remember when people complained about her being OP, then found out her weaknesses. Now, she's too vulnerable.
The new Schick is 3 supports. Once this is dissolved, a new issue will stand up .
I think 3 support will find it's hard counter soon enough if it hasn't already. I'd be interested to see some 3 or 4 dps comps against it.
Wow great commentary and detailed guide. Subbed!!
Thanks a lot! Trying to figure out what people find value in for guides like these is new to me. Glad you liked it!
in her phase state shes mostly invuln, but damage that is delayed will still hit her, such as venom's grab
It's 2 part attacks, if the first part attaches pre-phase, the 2nd part will hit and remove the phase. Pretty sure it's a bug.
Like Mr. Fantastic, Wolverine, and old Storm; she uses a unique strategy to win.
She plays between front and back line, Enhances steamroll potential, and has the ability to extend outwards to odd angles.
Yep! Well said.
You can set her to float when she comes out of her phase, also. It wrecks havoc on flying Ironman.
Yep, always holding that jump button when I come out of phase, although sometimes you can trick DPS characters that you see are tracking you by just dropping to the ground out of phase, or stuttering your fall.
@@ProwlRivals I set it to autofloat. Helps when I target flyers.
Didn't know that was an option, good tip. I love fighting Ironman and storm as long as my team is doing good enough that I can get close to them
@ProwlRivals I forget which one it is, but yeah: she'll immediately float after coming out a phase.
You need to check out p2mg. He's a SW player and I actually think he's the #1. Bray, Zaming, Steve, Lippy, CherryColaFPS and ShartCandy are all RUclips players that have done well with SW. There's a lot to be learned by watching them play her.
Ill definitely take a look.
I currently watch all of them. Surprise to see someone mention all of those names together.
@@felipechaves9341 Yeah I tried to find as many YT players as possible to learn from. There are more I'm sure.
I think I've got most of SW fundamentals down now and have been doing really well with her. I'm about to make it to Plat3 as a solo q player but I'll be teaming up once I get out of gold.
The SW hate/flame is already starting and it just gets worse the higher you go.
Unfortunately p2mg said that he is going to be quitting Wanda because he's getting bored of her.
@@EmiTheWitch4 Yeah I saw that, it's a bummer but understandable.
along with your general rule of thumb i have two too 1.) make sure you ALWAYS have all four of your chthonian burst before you go for picks and 2.) make sure you ALWAYS have 2 charges of your fade before initiating all of these should be common knowledge for seasoned wanda players but for the people who are new to her or wanting to play her also keep track of your fade cooldown
Yep, have 4 burst when going for a pick usually makes them very easy to get
Spider man can still web pull you when you are phased
Yeah this is a bug. Super annoying.
Wanda is my main duelist(im a vanguard/strategist main), people get so pressed seeing her until i secure mvp regularly with 35+ elims. She has blatant weaknesses some other better dps dont have but I feel the 2 escapes, autolock drain, decent burst and countering support ults make up for it especially if you make a mental note of your own teams cooldowns, which is easy because the things you need to pay attention to as wanda are far less than other skill expressive characters
Yep. She doesn't have a super high skill ceiling, just need a bit of strategy, discipline in when to make a move, and be quick on the phase
Her rank is D or F because she is OP but she is one of the No skill needed Cheese DPS like Namor, The MOON, and Punisher. Those rankings are probably charts of characters that need skill to play or use effectively. Like Psylocke, Magik, Hawkeye, BP, etc. Her only skill needed move is her Ult which you got to time it just right or chain that thing with another Ult.
Also she is perfect Backline defense.
Not at all. Every tier list I have watched has her rated there saying how terrible she is. She is only easy and "no skill" in the lower ranks, like bronze through like gold 3, then the transition starts to happen when people that play her don't know how to play her right, and other players are higher skill and kill her easier. Once you get into Platinum, people start asking you to switch off of scarlet, and in diamond and above, her pick rate is like 2%, and people say your throwing the match if you play her.
This is all because people just don't play her correctly, this video shows how to play her well into those higher ranks.
Spiderman can catch SW when she’s in fade mode
Im pretty sure this is a bug, because only he can do it, and it only happens if he webs you right after you phase (at least my observation)
Hope they fix this soon. It's very annoying.
Yeah this is the absolute worst!!! I don't think it's a bug but it might be. From what I can tell lingering status effects that are applied before the fade is active will persist throughout the fade.
Examples:
Adam Warlock - Soul Bond
Mantis - Heal and Buff
Luna - Share the Stage
Vemon - Leash
SpiderMan - Web
There might be more.
By definition it doesn't make sense it's totally a bug
@@gilbert3579 Could be an oversight? I think the phase should totally get rid of all attached / negative effects, but at the very least, those effects shouldn't cause the phase to unphase once they tick/hit
Spiderman can still pull and kick her in her invisibility phase which is stupid. Learned that the hard way
Yep, very annoying bug. I need to look into seeing if they have a bug report process
Interesting video to pop up as soon as I hit GM with using mostly her
Thats cool to hear! Are you doing any of the things I cover in the video here? Do you think they would help your gameplay further? Do you have different strategies that you find are useful?
@ what you covered from what I remember is pretty much what every new Wanda main needs to hear so great job on that. For me I always try to play close to the tanks of course for that extra protection and then I’ll phase into the air and apply pressure for the few moments I’m up there. Or I’ll take high ground on an off angle and apply pressure there giving them more than one direction to focus on. When they play Strange and Magneto I try my best to get high enough to where I can deal dmg even with their shields up.
If they run spider man, BP, or iron fist I usually just stay with the supports as I don’t need to worry about my aim since you don’t really need to aim with her. It forces them to retreat faster and possibly keep the supports alive. That’s just my play style though. What you covered was pretty much everything
Ironfist annoys me like no other. How a ground melee character can just infinitely fly is beyond me lol
very nice, ty for the tips love it.
Let me know how they work for you!
I do have to disagree with the point you've made about flanking. As Scarlet Witch your best route is to apply as much pressure as posdible on the backline thus diverting their attention (like the you've shown in the vid when Moon Knight targeted you).
If you try to constantly play with your team yes you'll be able to deal damage but not to the backline. I always save up one phase when I engage on the backline so I'll always have my escape when it's needed.
It's important to remember that after her buff SW is a lot stronger against squishier target rather than the tanks so you need to put yourself in a position to target the squishier targets.
Other than that, great video.
My point was more your default position should be front line with the tanks, as there you can do damage constantly, building bursts and ult, you have vision to the healers pretty easy, and where other DPS are without being able to be singled out. From there you can take off angles, or just phase up above to get the healers. I still stick strongly to my rule of "Never more than 1 phase away from your team", so in that sense, I don't think flanking is good outside of the rare scenario where you know you outmatch the person you are flanking.
Healers are very easy to get from that frontline, as you can just phase up and over top of them and rain down bursts, land them too even, then easily phase back behind your tanks when it gets too hot, or you get the kills.
Venom poked me as I phased and killed me..apparently not 100% invincible while phased
Yeah have found this is a bug with 2 part attacks when you phase after part 1 and before part 2
Yup. People are playing her wrong. Her burst damage is insane. I flank with her and support tanks with her. She's insane.
Yep! She can put out big spurts of damage pretty quick, and she builds up more bursts fairly quick if you keep an attack going. I've killed both healers many times :P
you should note that characters can cancel your phase or kill you before your phase because it has a start up time, but for example Spider Man can cancel you out of your phase very easily
Its not because the phase has a startup time, because the phase is instant. Its from attacks that have 2 parts to them. If spider man webs you, then you phase, his punch will hit you even though it shouldn't, and take you out of the phase even though it shouldn't. Fairly positive it's a bug, as no other damage is able to hit you phased, including ults that you are standing right in.
@ProwlRivals actually the phase isn't instant, it's just a small start up time to the point that it's PRETTY MUCH instant but you can press the button and die before the phase fully goes off, there's observable experiments you can do to test it, but the part about 2 part attacks being a possible bug may be valid, I'm not sure at all
@@ProwlRivals i noticed this bug well no attacks can land on her except this
@@aceyhyena8907 it is a bug because none of the attacks can land on her in her phase except if spiderman prewebs you to come closer to attack
I haven’t gotten through the whole video yet but I just want to say I think people write her off because her ult is vulnerable but if you know what you’re doing, time it well, and have good supports it can be the best ult. They had to make it vulnerable to balance being able to wipe an entire team in 5 seconds.
Yes, but I still think it's too vulnerable. Every stun in the game can stop it, it is broadcasted very visibly so everyone knows where it is coming from, its slow to go off, so its easy to just move away from, and you get no extra health or anything. Too many vulnerabilities compared to other offensive ults.
I got the diamond all my friends were writing her off meanwhile im dropping 50 and 3 games in solo I kept saying I saw something Nobody else saw
Yep for sure. People just don't know how to play her right. I'm starting to see more people using her now
I think they need to up the max number of her secondary fire or make it so she can manually reload
I disagree, I think her secondary fire (bursts) are fine. You just need to use them strategically when the time comes. When I'm frontlining with the tanks, I'm always holding primary fire to build-up the bursts (they build up fast), then once I hit 4 I drop all 4 of them at once on a tank if I'm staying front line, or if I see an opportunity to phase towards a DPS or Healer, I'll do so with 4 ready to go and dump on them.
The hardest part about playing SW in ranked, is the toxicity you get from your team especially the higher rank you go.
Too many players in this game are way too fixated on all those tier lists and 2-2-2 team comp. Anything out of these norms, to them is a throw, even before the game started. 🤷🏻
If you can play her well enough to contribute to the team, then 100% ignore it. Don't let uninformed players dictate how you play.
I get it some too, and I'll tell people on comms something like "I'm pretty good with SW, but if she isn't working out, I'll switch to (name hero here)" and most people are all good from there.
Also, always be willing to switch off if your hero isn't working in a fight. There are a few scenario's SW doesn't play good into... so having a couple good backups is a must, for any hero.
You’re right… one button to win is pretty hard to figure out… quite complex….
@@Blumpkin-Pie not sure what you're trying to say?
@ she is super easy. That’s all. There no way to play her wrong. You can hold down one key or button all game a rack up serious damage and KOs.
You are correct for quick play, bronze, silver, and some of gold. Once you get upper gold and above, primary attack does nothing, to the point where other players want you to switch off her. Her pick rate above platinum is 4% because everyone considers her F tier.
@ I’m aware. But for most players say 90 percent… you hold a button and win.
@Blumpkin-Pie this video is for the people that want to be able to play her past silver.
This is all fine and well, but I think the most pertinent question that you didn't answer in the video is as to *Why* should we play Scarlet Witch at GM? You mention she's close to A tier, but for what reasons? What advantages does she actually have over other characters? Why is she worth a dps slot on my team when I could have a Namor, Punisher, Moon Knight or Hela or something instead? I don't think you really addressed the reasoning for people putting her in low tiers other than just saying that she's being played wrong.
Thanks for the comment. I think maybe I indirectly answered this, but should have here, or maybe should in a future video answer it more directly.
It revolves around her being that "battlefield sniper", and how in doing so, she can act like a much different type of dive character that can't be dealt with in all the same ways that other dives can.
I think I showed some examples of this in the gameplay footage, and admittedly I'm not the most skilled player, so a player with a bit more skill, or even myself as I get more acclimated to this style of game can do better.
When teams are engaged in a fight, she is GREAT at finding value, at knocking down that first important domino that leads to a team wipe... which can often lead to other DPS or tanks getting more kills than her, but she can easily start the whole thing.
She has the ability to maintain constant damage within a larger fight with the tanks, and then suddenly and unexpectedly shift into phase state, fly above the enemy strategists, and pick 1 or multiple off. She gets to attack from above, which is an instant advantage over other dives and different from what strategists are used to seeing. She has solid DPS output with her 4 bursts, and then her primary attack is GREAT at finishing off a fleeing enemy, especially in moments where they try to hide behind other hero's, you're able to keep those last hits on the strategist to finish them off. Other hero's have a hard time doing this.
On top of that, she is GREAT at getting out of danger. 1 phase and you are back with your team, so she can keep the death count low if you don't over-extend. She is also GREAT at picking off enemy DPS. I can get above or out of LOS of a moon knight, iron man, storm, starlord, hela, etc very easily, get the first couple hits in, then finish with my primary attack and they have no way out.
She does come with her weaknesses too, so she isn't for every compostition. Namor's make it VERY hard to dive with her. Teams that have a tank dif, and are able to keep the front line so far forward that the DPS and strategists are further back can be difficult. Storms and other DPS that play from a very far back distance can be tough too... so in those situations I very often do switch off of her.
Hopefully this starts to help explain it? Let me know. Once I have a clear goal of a follow up video, I'll do one with maybe more specific examples.
I think she goes well against triple support comps so long as your team is aggressive enough to supply sufficient pressure. Being able to secure those kills before they can get healed and she kinda thrives when fighting backline heroes(as described in the video). Furthermore her ult is actually sneaky good against triple support comps, especially if your team has Magneto (which they often should in this meta) with the bubble combo.
Yep good callout. Triple support definitely has some good counters, and SW fits well within that.
Almost all of gm games are 40+ mins due to triple support meta with each healers heeling like 100k and it's basically a mirror match when wolvi is banned. (Luna mantis loki). But the beauty of rivals community is to play and adapt around everything. So we got a rise in Bucky users more because of this. Bucky had the same treatment as witch and peni, theoretically Good in only low elo. Witch and peni can nuke through support ults and also play like pseudo divers. Also there are some matches where witch is banned because of mags like hulk bans.
@@mrstrange1062 Yep! I'm a very anti-meta player in how I think, so rather than play triple healer myself, I rather counter it. I like 1 tank 3 DPS into triple healer, heck 0 tank 4 DPS could even work honestly, especially if you run wolv or bucky as one of the DPS to be a tank killer.
Excellently well said
Thanks! You playing Scarlet Witch? Does this video help?
@ProwlRivals I main her amd magik. Initial it was just scarlet but I waa underwhelmed or expected something else but eventually, I started to understand her kit.
@@dripfoe_3307 Yeah I think several hero's are still not fully understood. Magik is a good 2nd hero too, good to have someone to go to if you need a solid dive!
She’s a flying character in my mind. NGL I stopped witches alt 3 times in one round with peni
As a Witch, I will never use my Ult with a peni around, it's pretty much useless. If she's dead, or far away/distracted I MAY try to sneak it around a corner.
I think Witch should probably be CC immune or something while casting it, but still able to die, so it would be on the healers or a magneto or something to keep her up
this is helpful!
Good to hear! If you have any specific Scarlet Witch questions let me know, or if you want to talk her or rivals more in depth, catch my streams on twitch! (Link in description)
@ sounds good thank you! do you ever play psylocke?
I have played with her some, but she is one I want to learn better. I'm brand new to hero shooters, so I'm trying to learn everyones roles and play to understand them and be somewhat effective with them, then the ones I feel like I connect with, or fill a team role that I don't have a good hero for yet, I add them to my frequently played list.
Right now I try to main between Storm or Scarlet Witch, but I'm comfortable with and frequently use Wolverine, Moonknight, Namor, Punisher, Venom, Thor, Luna, and Invisible Woman. There are a few others I can do decent with too. Currently trying to learn bucky to fill that tank peeler need when wolverine doesn't work, and I need a good DPS diver like psylock for when playing a tank like Venom doesn't fit the roster.
@ awesome!!! i subscribed and i’m looking forward to seeing more videos!
She just needs CC immunity during her ult and she’ll be good.
I think that for sure.. I'd have slightly less things block it too. Groot walls I don't like blocking all damage from it (maybe 50%? maybe none?), same for breakable building parts... other stuff like strange shield, non-breakable's, magneto shield, etc are fine. Then MAYBE allow her to move just a touch faster in it.
as a scarlet main almost lord i totally agree with u and beside killing the healers when they are alone she is really good at killing snipers up close and storm
Yep, I constantly dominate storms as long as the other team is so dominant i can't get close to her. Other DPS are normally easy to kill too with the exception of namor when my team isn't quick on the squids, or a really good Hela or Spiderman.
Is it possible that scarlet is a bully for tanks? I haven't tested it yet but she does do 6 + .3% max health in .1 seconds.
A bully? I wouldn't go that far, but she does OK against them. The burst damage is solid, the primary attack is annoying, and the phases can usually keep you out of reach. So she can go 1v1 with a tank and hold her own OK, but I'd still give the overall advantage to the tank there on average. She does do a good job at adding to damage to tanks on the front lines, and in those larger skirmishes when tanks sometimes start to get a little weak, she can definitely put out enough damage to get them down before healing can catch back up... or phase up over top of the enemy tanks and back a bit towards the healers, and put out really quick, solid damage to disrupt the whole fight, and either pick the healer, or cause the tanks to stop getting heals.
Yeah i figured that out last night when using her. Lol I think she is a slept on character.
So basically play as an assassin but at range and tunnel vision alone supports in the fight??
Not really at range no. A lot of the time, you are right there with your tanks putting out constant damage. When you see a squishy within 1 phase range of you, phase to them from above, single them out and go for the kill, and phase back behind your tanks once you kill them, or you take too much damage. It works incredibly well!
to much talk and not enough clips shows
Check out my spectating video for SW. The first video was more establishing playstyle.
Ill consider this feedback though for future videos, trying to incorporate more clear in-game examples.