Belgian Draft Horses- horse pulling vs tractor pulling
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- Horse pulling vs tractor pulling
video : Stan Smits en Roland Crevits
location: Ravels (Belgium)
Date: august 23, 2015
organisation: 27e Oldtimer festival Ravels
Trekpaarden vereniging 'het zestienspan', Kaatsheuvel (NL)
A team of 16 Belgian draft horses as well as a John Deere tractor pulls a weight transfer sled. The winner is the one who can pull the sled the longest. Going to the end of the 100m track is named FP (full pull, see the displat on the sled).
Een zestien-span Belgische trekpaarden en een trctor trekken een sleepwagen.
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When my grandfather finally bought a tractor, he still kept his draft horses. He frequently needed them to pull the tractor out of the mud.
My grandpa was the same way!
That’s hilarious. And very wholesome.
That's absolutely hilarious. LOL.
@@katamed5205why? Horses gett rarely stuck!
Not a steam tractor
They make it look like they were just out for a gentle afternoon stroll. That's what you call horse power, beautiful to watch❤
Man: This is horsepower.
Horse: Hold my carrot.
That is pure gold dude
good one monsieur..... greetings from tasmania
@@chrisbinckes2732 👋🇨🇦
A quick but completely serious question. Have you seen the Tazi Tiger lately?🤞
@@Mucho-Taco i did it only took a few mushrooms and there it was ,....lol
Just the sound of them walking sounds like a small thunderstorm. Would be neat to hear all 16 of them galloping and how loud that thunder would sound. :D
I love how they're like 'So, we're just pulling this empty rig all the way home then?' even at the end of the pull...
My father, born in 1901, worked for a drayage company in the 1920s. The company specialized in moving huge equipment. They still used draft horses until about 1930 because the men felt they had better control and more power with the horses.
I have listened to some of old timers that worked with horses. They liked it and were sad to go to tractors. Not everybody that used horses were good at it and abused their horses, but the some had a special connection with their animals.
An old horse logger told me you could kill a horse because they would pull so hard their bellies would almost be on the ground and too much weight would cause them to have a massive hernia.
Another when asked if he was glad to have tractors said no. Horses need to rest at the end of every furrow, but tractors just kept on going and going. Driving tractor is incredibly boring.
I was lucky to be able to listen to these old guys stories. They were strict, tough and kind.
Thank you very much - I have been waiting for this kind of comment from the beginning.
I am extremely interested in these details (especially that people are able to kill horses by means of too hard draft work ("massive hernia"). I am going to search the Romanian videos showing draft horses which have to pull extremely heavy trunks and these are "only" competitions!!! I suppose that they are all overcharged. And I bet that in Romania nobody is able resp. willing to make calculations about what is the limit for draft horses. And I bet that during these competitions there is no vet who could supervise/controll this although the Romanian law for the protection of animals is said to be strict.
Thank you, Glenn Howden!
I live near Amish and have watched their horses work and even driven them a time or two. Belgians are docile and willing and if trained right eager to please. Most of the folks here treat their horses reasonably well as they are an important tool for them and fairly expensive nowadays. My neighbor had a angus bull that tried to jump out of the pen it was in and broke it’s back so that it was paralyzed in the back end. There was just a narrow isle leading to the pen so they hooked up one Belgian”Clyde “ and he was able to pull this 1300 pound bull out to where they could winch it onto the “down cow” buyers trailer. That horse made it look easy. Remarkable animals that often get thought of as dumb. There is much more there
John Deere 9rx Revenge
Old people are the best people. So much wisdom, so many great stories, and 70+ years of well- developed personality.
it would take half of those horses and the would have still won. people seem to forget how powerful these buitiful beasties are.
its more about the traction vs the 2 back wheels on the tractor
David Forbes
beautiful
@@OhNoYouDidnt If the tractor had been pulling in reverse, or if it had ballast in the front, it could have kept going...physics.
@@OhNoYouDidnt no, a horse has a permanent power of circa 1hp, but they can have peak power of 24hp so they have a power advantage, too.
That is the literal meaning of horse power. Very impressive.
1 horse power can make baby 9 month
Gross bronys
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Not a hater :3
These horses were pulling it with no problem
elle schimmel
Your right OMG
They were walking, no effort
they had to be made to stop
It's more impressive and festive all those horses though.
I bet that team could pull double that,and might start looking like they were working! They were just literally walkin away that sled!
Yeah, it looks like the start of the video was "waking up the horses" and the sled pull was their actual warming up
The winner is obvious: horses don't puff out black smoke
No, their emissions are much more.................solid, and probably smell even worse!
Of course, natural fertilizer probably has a greater beneficial effect on the plants than vehicle emissions do.
plus you can put the manure into a pond put a lid on it though in some bacteria keep warm and heat the stables with methane a.k.a natural gas or lng plus use after winter for fertiliser
no smoke and lots of pasture muffins
ruclips.net/video/qTpDL84z12A/видео.html&ab_channel=Pfeil4
No tractor can beat that kind of traction.
Matthew Alford you can't spell traction without tracks...
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Man, those horses didn't have a care in the world! They were just out for an afternoon stroll! Beautiful!
I stood beside a couple of those a few months ago. The owner said they weighed 2250 pounds each and were wearing steels shoes for pulling so don't stand too close. I took the advice.
I was kicked in the chest by a colt that was around 1600 and didn't have shoes. It wasn't even full contact and I STILL wouldn't recommend it!
@@Serene80 I got double barrelled by a Holsteiner mare 8 years ago. My ribs are now weather detectors.
@@MASSspec1990 My back got that ability at about age...10? My mare went down and pinned me. Then she managed to roll over me. Thank god she was only about 800 pounds and I was riding without a saddle...
@@Serene80 Shit. That’s a horrible thing to have happen. When I was learning to ride, all students had to get medical insurance and sign a waver and a form to state they understand the risks and dangers of handling and tiding horses. I’ll still pick a horse over anything else in this world, but the number of riders I know who are dead or injured is horrifying. Still, we do it because we love them and take the risks.
@@Serene80 I remember a Clydesdale mare who Butt-slammed one of my coworkers and pinned him... She cracked 3 of his ribs and luckily didn't puncture a lung.
Certainly made me be MORE aware of my surroundings when working with them
Absolutely amazing animals and people think the tractors built this world long before that there were the Clydesdales and percherons all the heavy draft horses we would never have gotten anywhere without them amazing animals
Man, so strong and so beautiful. A relaxed walk to a full - pull. Amazing.
all those horses deserve a carrot!:)
What do you think they were wave at the other end?
i think oats.
And a sugar cube.
And an apple too. 😊
A biig carrot
One of the coolest things I've ever seen was when the Budweiser 8 horse hitch came to Salt Lake City a couple years ago. They actually let the public walk alongside as they headed down the street. I'll never forget the sounds of all those dinner plate sized hooves clopping on the pavement, the snorts, and the jingling of the harnesses. Hindquarters and withers on some of those Clydesdales were over 6'!! I love draft horses....😎👍
More weight, traction, torque and ... horsepower.
1 HP is the amount of power a typical horse can maintain for a full work day, it can produce a LOT more for short bursts.
At first i thought that the horses were going to try to pull the tractor from behind while it was driving in the other direction.
Really late but me to 😂
I watched someone do that once - the chain snapped, thankfully hit a tree and not a person, because the metal was embedded about an inch into an oak tree. (The horses were winning at the time.)
Would be the most epic game of tug-of-war ever!!!
this shows thats not about power alone, its about power that can be delivered.
Whether the same weight was on the sled, or not, I don't know, but this was very satisfying to watch.
I was expecting a "thug of war" contest between those horses and the tractor.
People here say it's all about traction, but you can see the tractor's tires biting the ground so well that they don't skid. In reality the Horse power of a combustion engine is flawd when compared to real Horses.
I'm still trying to find it on RUclips... I saw a documentary on TV a good 15 years ago where they hitched one draught horse to a similar sized tractor. The horse effortlessly beat the tractor.
you bring in two dozen full grown shire horses and hook them up you could tow 120 tons easy
The EQUIPMENT would give out LONG before the horses!!!
Pulling is about power and weight. The draft horses have typical combined weight of 32,000 pounds. Horsepower is a unit of measure and doesn't really have anything to do with an actual horse other than some arbitrary relationship in the past and the name. Animals also increase their power for brief periods before tiring out after the burst. The average horse produces about 15 peak horsepower, of which draft horses produce a more, but even so, that means the team in the video is producing 240 horsepower. The JD tractor is 42 horsepower and weighs around 8000 pounds. The draft horses are 6x the horsepower and 4x the weight. The video is a misrepresentation of a supposed equal contest.
what about the cost for equal representation?
My theory is the Egyptians used draft horses to build the pyramids.
@@suryatchandra Definitly possible.
@@suryatchandra
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And to bring stones across Nile River they used crocodiles.
Gods tractor! Can't explain it any more simple than this.
Horses, but Belgian horses are the strongest in the world
Always was and always will be the best form of power to the ground. No pollution, no parts, just grass fed power. So guys, eat your greens. 🔥🙂
Much love to those horses! Nature conquers all!
Using stored solar power with no toxic materials.
And the exhaust can be used to grow food for people.
Obviously the horses are going to win, a racehorse during a 30 second sprint has an average power output of about 35 kw thats 46hp, the maximum power output of a daft horse during the same amount of time must be approximately 60-70hp, if each of those daft horses were at its maximum doing 65 hp we would have a total of 1040 hp compare that to the 40 of the tractor, obviously they are just feeling it like a breeze not even doing a 20% of its maximum, but that's just power you could have lots of power but no force or little power but lots of force, this leads us to the next. A daft horse can pull with a force as much as 1.7 times its own weight just for a few seconds in an isometric exercise, in dynamometer pulls you can see how they never reach more than 1.2 times its own weight. The friction coefficient of steel with fine and wet dirt varies significantly but never reaches more than .6 with the average being .40 - .20 so if that weight begun at 18,000 kg and had a maximum of 40,000 kg we need a force of 5,000 kg at the beginning and it increased to 12,000 kg if the drag coefficient here is .3 and doesn't changes, which corresponds to 338 and 750 kg per horse, that's well within the horses capabilities, however the odd thing is how easy they are doing it, certainly it should look like they are doing some force but it looks like they are just walking and why the sled didn't digged like did with the tractor, that's odd and i can't explain it except that the friction coefficient could be lower, or the horses really were pulling that weight but it didn't looked like a lot.
+Bob Sparkle Who gives a shit
People who is curious and want to learn, and retards that get butthurt because its little brain can't comprehend simple physics and biology in a comment.
+Bob Sparkle I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing I love learning new things about horses even strange little facts like yours :) . Although I will admit I laughed a bit at your typo 'daft horses'
your wright
say yes if you love horses
horses also take the prize for cool, elegance and beauty..............
It all boils down to physics. Compare how many square inches (feet) of contact the tires of the tractor have on the ground compared to 64 hooves? Another very important factor is how well trained the horses are.
For example: If you have a two well trained horses that can pull 1,000 pounds each (only an example) it does not mean they can pull 2,000 pounds together. They lose about 10% efficiency because it is very difficult to get the footsteps in sync.
This team of horses worked very well together, showing how well trained they really are.
I would have liked to know how much that sled weighs.
I once witness just two pull the 60 thousand pound starting gate
at Hollywood Park race track, the length of the stretch and off the track in
time for the racehorses to round the track and finish the race. They did this
because the harness for the team of six broke and the front four ran away
shortly after the race started. That left only the two-wheel horses to pull
that gate.
I am not AT ALL surprised! And I'm also sure it was the best part of the race. LOL!!!
Mega interessant. Super Pferde - viel schöner als so ein Traktor und auch wohl stärker und schneller.
2 well trained Belgian Draft horses can pull up to 32,000 pounds... so a well trained team of 16 Belgian Draft horse can pull almost anything...
Even the largest skidders in the world would lose to 16 belgian draft horses
Testament to true horse power! Looking deeper, i see it as a testament to the harness makers!!!👍
You should watch other pulls where they're REALLY digging in and pulling. THOSE are the ones where I'm impressed with the gear. These guys, comparatively speaking, are out for an afternoon stroll...
Horse Power and Steam Power can beat any internal combustion motor there is no comparison.
16 horsepower
Vs 42 tractor horsepower!
Draft Horses for the win!👍
And they made it look effortless.
I think that the sign showed the power that was developed. As the weight on the sled advanced more effort or power was required
Imho it was reading horsepower.
The sign read 78.??? When they passed the camera.
so impressive👍🏼👍🏼 and what a team of horses I really hope someone in that family is learning the ropes and is keen to go on with heavy horses in the future. 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺
It is filmed in Belgium. We are still proud of our horses. There are a lot of family´s that still train and breed them. De real Belgian draft horses, the way to train and breed them will not stop.
@@rubos306 great to hear 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺
These horses never broke a sweat.
Erg indrukwekkend en schitterend om te zien.
Each horse has about 14 horsepower. So 14 x 16 = 224HP
The tractor only had 42. Clear winner.
Yes a single horse has around 14 HP...
Oh and that’s just regular horses, these work horses might even have 18 horsepower. So maybe even 288HP.
Wonder what the torque numbers are in comparison.
The horse flesh power is astonishing.
Horses are still as powerful as ever
im pretty sure you showed the "warm up the horses" scene twice
I'm not a horse person really.. but man i love the chunky horse. They are kinda scary in person cos they're huge but also so impressive.
They're like dogs in a way. The bigger the breed, the more relaxed and easygoing they tend to be. I've had everything from ponies to drafters and I learned REAL early on not to turn my back on a pony. They'll bite or kick faster than any drafter!
Now thats a lot's of horse power!
Smell that good clean air as the horses do their job!
I was pulled backwards up a steep hill by two draft horses. They’ve got a very good grip on the ground
Praise the LORD for creating draft horses!
Horse talking each other....... C mon boys im getting bored when are we gonna pull something decent?
I mean where do you think we got the term “Horse power” from.
Fo real Jack Frost
From zebraa
Expected a tug of war between tractor and horses.
watch the front of the sled people. It doesn't take away from Belgians being wonderful draft animals so you don't have to get offended, but it is what it is. If you cant see it or accept it I hope you don't have horses or tractors
What are sled people?
Draft horse teams, tanks, military trucks, and steam powered tractors are all way overpowered compared to the ridiculous multi engine, fire breathing monsters that usually pull sleds.
Nothing to do with power. It is all about weight. The tractor will spin as it is not heavy enough. A 100 ton tractor eith 5 HP can pul this. Only realy slow.
Beautiful team!
Wow! Beautiful!!!
I'm pretty sure those big guys could have walked off with the sled AND the tractor pulling in the opposite direction!😉👍
Life is awesome God provided the means to survive and he gave man these great beasts of burden to work with. But he also said be kind to them so as man kind thought we've came a long ways lol I've watched people still cutting hay plowing pulling thrashers graders. They are awesome
That was impressive, it was like which town do you want us to pull this sled to awesome.
EXACTLY my thinking. 'So, how far are we pulling this empty cart???'
These horses are awesome, but after reading all these gushing replies about the superiority of the horses, I'm amazed that no one noticed that the pan was not engaged when the Belgians were pulling (i.e. The horses were not doing a real pull, where the weight box progressively adds more resistance)...
HGT!
Where do you see the pan wasn't engaged??
Don't you see the smoothed soil behind it?
That John deer was trying so hard lmao
what about that poor tractors feelings, i always root for massey or alice chalmers..but im biases due to the fact in canadian..
oh my God that tractor didn't stand a chance! If you have seen one of these horses in person then you know the video does not come close to showing how enormous they are, they are pure muscle and huge doesn't begin to describe them!! Each one of them weighs a literally ton, 2000lbs, now multiple that by 16, omg!! ya no tractor was ever going to win that. They are such beautiful animals. Like equine rhinos.
Not to mention each one is about 6 feet at the shoulder... Hard to get THAT from a video...
The horses are nice but did anybody else notice the dime they were pulling or just me? Damn
Тот случай когда 16 живых лошадей с лёгкостью уделывают ваших хвалёных 300 лошадей под капотом
Horses would be great for a hometead for sure!
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I dont think the horses realized they were pulling anything
I do love tractors and big machines (my sister's say it's because I am little) but more I love big strong draft horses. Horses have a personality, tractors do not
Very impressive!
Fjord Mustang... Because big horse power was always cool!
Ok each of those horses definitely have more than 1 horse power.
For make shift tractor pulling search : Two horses pulling semi-truck from icy driveway
This is the biggest proof that mechanical horsepower is just speculation
Incorrect. Because mechanical horsepower takes in to account that horses must eat and rest two thirds of the day. Mechanical horsepower is accurate.
@@prairiegold6870 You're right, with proof that two motorcycles can pull 7 tons versus two horses in traction competitions in America.
I wanted to see a competition between the horses and the 🚜
Not to mention the horses outweigh that tractor by a factor of 2-2.5x. That alone made it very easy to pick the winner.
Scott: Those horses weigh about a ton each and there were 16 of them. Do you think that tractor weighs 8 tons? I would really like to know because there was not enough information in the video to do any research. The video said it as a 42 horse tractor but no model number. Let me know what you think.
That's what you call horsepower.
Draft Horse specs: 5HP 5000 ft-lbs torque @ 40 rpm (each)
Stupid question but why does the tractor die (or stop or whatever is happening) after a certain distance?
Does anyone have any historical context like why would you need a pulling team of 16 horses, are they pulling ships onto land or something?
Teams were usually 2-4 horses for most things, but yes. Sometimes large teams would pull barges upriver or pull ships into place. They would also pull huge loads for companies. (The Budweiser Belgians aren't just a gimmick...)
So does this mean a 16 horsepower device is more powerful than a 200 hp tractor?
Great hitch .. Real horse power
Aí sim é cavalos de força é bruta
These horses are extreme tuned.Power comander or something like that.💪💪💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awesome Beautiful Sacred
Tractor wins !!!
I mean it seems way cheaper to maintain one single tractor
as the added cost of keeping 14 horses out-ways any positives
The initial cost of the tractor, diesel, parts... Vs horses, which don't pollute the air, land, and water with diesel waste, can replace themselves with almost no extra cost, and generally just need a little (less than us) rest before they're good to go again? Also, they only have this many horses specifically for competitions. A farmer would normally have like 4 at the maximum unless he had a colt in training. Usually just 1 or 2.
Has anyone accidentally tripped and fallen right in front of the horses. I mean if they can’t stop right away? I guess my question is do people get trampled often. Like 8 2000lbs horses stepping on you I’m not sure you could survive that
I doubt even ONE of them would step on someone that fell in front of them unless they were doing a heavy pull and really into it. The sled would be more likely to get you...
Хорсы сила!!!
Tractor had less pulling power than a 80 year old person pulling a wheel chair.
Not even breaking a sweat!!
My honda scooter is rated at 16hp. Maybe I should enter it in a pulling contest. ;)
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Excellent
16 draft horses =About 240 HP, a 64 fully independent hoff drive, a living breathing vehicle controlled by 16 independent brains working in harmony to pull the load and appling more torque when needed to get the task accomplished! Where in blue blazes do you find that in human invention🤓👀
Pure applied traction. Simples.
So much for the tractor, it's supposed to be equivalent to 42 heavy horses pulling: 42 HP. Here it only took 16 heavy horses to out pull easily the tractor.
Animals should be engaged properly... otherwise they will become depressed dejected disappointed just like humans... that is how God intended... unfortunately, tractors and machines have made animals and humans insignificant and useless and rejected... and people are unemployed and unengaged and they indulge in drugs and alcohol and spoil their own lives...sad but true 😓😭