No Labels Co-Chair McCrory: Those saying third party can't succeed thought Trump couldn't win
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2023
- Former Gov. Pat McCrory (R-N.C.), Markos Moulitsas, fmr. Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.) and Danielle Pletka join the Meet the Press roundtable to discuss the viability of a third-party ticket in 2024.
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#Trump #PatMcCrory #2024Election
I'm 65 years old. This contention has been brought up every single presidential election since I can remember.
When was the last time that a 3rd party candidate won the White House in the last 100 years? Zippo.
Republican party under lincoln
We have UNPRECEDENTED times. NEVER mind the last 100 years. We've never been in the kind of situation we are in now in our country. MOST people are rejecting BOTH Biden and Trump, so it appears they want another better choice. It's time for a third party candidate.
Pat put on the used car salesman schtick quickly
We must disqualify joe manchin from the ballot and get rid off joe manchin do not vote for joe manchin joe manchin has failed you West Virginians voters
Brought to you by Jim Justice for senate.
Now that I know Pat McCrory is involved with No Labels I know their intentions are no good.
He's wrong. I wasted my vote for Ross Perot but will never vote third party again. I will vote true blue.
😆😅🤣i totally object to this no-labels thing. tis like have a dream team and then you wake up to a nightmare - a trump win. which is the more dangerous thing? a trump win? or a Biden win? because no-labels will not win, period, full stop...blessings to all
Vote “No labels” for Corporate bought politicians and more Tea party Obstruction.
Whenever I hear someone claim "there are a lot of people who...."
I know they are full of BS
Yes, Trump uses that line DAILY.
3rd party won't work
We don't have a parliamentary system. So, correct, they can't work very well.
Third parties can't succeed as a matter of simple mathematical fact -no third party has enough Congressional representation to secure enough electors to win in the electoral college. That conclusively rules out any notion of a successful third party campaign, even if they win the popular vote. Of course, "populists" don't tend to like the electoral college and want popular vote elections, which would indeed create viability for multi-party candidates. But then you're electing presidents with an even _lower_ share of the vote, exactly what EC opponents are trying to avoid.
I like No Labels -they seem to be a coalition of some of the most rational politicians in both parties attempting to steer the country back to normalcy. But that's also another reason they don't stand any realistic chance in a political culture that awards ignorance, tribalism and anti-establishment dogma.
Rank choice voting is the answer.
@@DarrellPoe Agree with preferential voting, and also favor getting rid of party primaries altogether.
"no third party has enough Congressional representation to secure enough electors to win in the electoral college"
That's not how electors work for the electoral college. The parties pick their slate of electors and it's the same for third parties. Not having congressional representation would only be a problem if no one receives a majority of the electoral votes and it goes to the House of Representatives to decide.
@@Nanofuture87 " would only be a problem if no one receives a majority of the electoral votes and it goes to the House of Representatives to decide."
Which would be best-case scenario. New parties like 'No Labels' and minor parties like the 'Green Party' would hardly be "minor parties" if they had support from over half the state delegations. It's extremely difficult, if not impossible, for new or minor parties to win enough popular votes in enough states to get to 270; the best they could hope for is to win enough electoral votes in swing states to prevent any candidate from getting to 270, in which case the House would determine the election -and they would lose.
Yes, I worded that awkwardly, but the main point still stands.
@@themaskedman221 This is an excellent analysis that I’ve never heard properly articulated. You may have taken a while to get there, but I followed you all the way! Great, great point.
Until there is more grassroots support - in county boards, state houses, governorships, and finally in Congress - there’s no real chance for a third party to be anything but a spoiler - and with today’s political climate, that’s just far too great a risk.
Why does no labels seem like a Republican front?
Because it is.
Because it is?
Still wint vote "No Label" unless their chosen candidate is EXTREMELY ANTI TRUMPISM N TRUMP. I will use my Vote to re-elect #PresidentJosephBiden. Signed a #NavyVeteranKorea n retired county law enforcement officer.
A third party is a spoiler party.
Pass ranked choice voting then. The duopoly won't do it, so I have no problem with "spoiling" their ridiculous elections.
@@Nanofuture87 That's how George Bush defeated Al Gore. Ralph Nader voters ended up with the worse of two evils.
@@frodofraggins Okay? I'm not voting for evil, lesser or otherwise. Enact voting reform or you get what's coming to you.
I'll get right on that while you vote for candidates who will never win and may yield a winner who will care less about your causes than the other.@@Nanofuture87
@@frodofraggins I'd rather the candidate who cares less win than vote for the candidate who is only marginally different. I would rather literally cast a blank ballot than vote for these people. The only way to get the establishment to change is to stop falling in line when they pull this "look, the other guy is ever so slightly worse than our guy" garbage.
Third party never wins. What is the point of running a candidate who will not win. They won’t get enough votes. So you will take a few million votes from either of the main parties’ candidates. Votes that can help or hurt one of them. It’s a total waste of votes.
The point is signaling that voters want something other than what the main parties are offering. That's valuable in itself.
@@Nanofuture87Remember Jill Stein? How about Ralph Nader? Great people. 🙄
@@yvonneplant9434Sure I remember them. What about them? Offering people more choices is good.
This is like gerrymandering, or trying to block votes with a poser. This org smells of GOP all over home.
He's a Trump supporter. He's trying to throw it to Trump. Has a sleeper.
No Labels, No Ideas, No-Hopers, Trump Dictatorship
Thats for sure. Aside from a vote for them, is a vote for trfump.
“45” most Americans will not vote for him.
Abortion and social security will be hot topics
In the past, "Those saying third party can't succeed" have always been right. No Labels does not have the resources to be anything other than a spoiler.. What big eyes you have, grandma!
It also has to do with the electoral college. A 3rd party candidate just can't win enough states to even come close to winning. All a 3rd party can do is draw votes away from the leader and hand a win to the other candidate.
This guy is so right. I hate how america is resigned to a two party system
No labels has a sketchy financial hx but the idea is great
The idea sucks. It's all about slicing and dicing. A 3rd party just can't get enough support and will be nothing more than a spoiler.
Please do more coverage on No Labels!! Given we now know the traditional choices for Nov it would be really nice to see more about a possible alternative that could help to bring some sanity and stability to Washington. I think the fear from both sides of the isle to have a third choice is pathetic. Americans deserve better options!! If they can't deliver them, we need a strong unity ticket!
Third party groups are, in effect, front groups for Trump 2024
WHERE did you hear that nonsense?
Do the homework, look up where the $ comes from
@@kyle7879 Wrong! The donor list has NOT been released, so it's utterly impossible for anyone to know. Anything currently being released from biased news outlets is NOT credible. Governor Hogan was asked about it by Robert Costa on Face The Nation recently, and he indicated such a list would be made public IF a third party ticket materializes. Governor Hogan also said right now we do not know for sure that it will be Biden v Trump. No Labels will put together a third party ticket ONLY if the percentage of voters not wanting Biden or Trump remains high, and also ONLY if there is a very sure pathway to victory.
no labels=maga
I think the Greek guy was completely unfair to McCrory
Meet the press has odd panel people . 🤦
"ODD" to you means nothing. Im always interested in listening to bright,articulate folks. I find all of these folks well spokdn n not folks spouting memorizdd Canned Talking Points. I may not agree with one or all,,,but Im willing to listen to bright folks.
@@alphaomega5909 they are still odd weird people .
@@Mrcool19771 Bwwwahaha. In human existence often the "Oddest" looking are The Most Memorable, Most Intelligent, Most Influential. Think of Einstein, Musk, Benjamin Franklin, Certain Odd looking movie actors like Lon Cheney, in politics, media seems due to tv ,social media we're getting Odd ourselves. Or stupid,,judging folks on looks. When if you had to READ these individuals positions, thoughts,theories? Thats if Youd read more than a few sentences or paragraphs? Be sble to intellectually grasp their meaning,,. You hopefully get beyong their quirky public speaking abilities. Some of the Most BRILLIANT individuals Ive met in my 90 yrs of life? Were terrible public Speakers.😉
@@alphaomega5909 let me tell you , I'm weird and odd myself . 🤣. So I wasn't criticizing them.
@@Mrcool19771 Okay,lol. Im a goofy sort myself. But as my beloved Mrs of 65 yrs has often said,,"Honey,youre weird but you Are MEMORABLE!" 🤣😍 (Im a #NavyVeteranKorea n retired county law enforcement. The Mrs a retired R.N from the Michigan Veterans Facility/Old Soldiers Home,Grand Rapids,Mi. )
I'm definitely not voting for Trump or Biden. Third party or nothing.
Wrong, you’re definitely pro-Trump.
I would gladly vote for a no-labels candidate if I agree with their views or policies. If Nikki Haley ran as a third-party, should would actually have a chance.
You need to look at the electoral college and where the majority of the votes are. CA (54), NY (28), and VA (13). That's 95 votes that will go to the Democrats. Any 3rd party will have to win several states just to offset those 95 votes.
What’s the guy from 2 n half men doing on here?
Well I told you Trump would win, I told you Biden would win and now I’m telling you we don’t like either one and never did.
Just say no to No Labels in 2024. A vote for a No Labels candidate = a vote for Donald Trump. Period. I'm a life-long Independent and there is nothing more that I would like on the national level of politics than to one day elect a third party candidate to the office of the POTUS. However, now (2024 Presidential election) is NOT the time! This IS the time to do everything we can do to take votes away from Trump and be sure he NEVER AGAIN serves as POTUS!! Period.
Abandon Genocide Joe! Vote for Dr. Jill Stein in 2024 💚💚🍏🍏
Democrats are scared af 😂😂😂 Biden is not popular with the average voter. Isn’t democracy about having a choice? 😂😂😂 this is good tv seeing people panic
You're just hoping that this third party choice hurts Biden 😀 I guarantee you're voting for that traitor trump
Like you actually think trump most popular with the average voter l o l. . Here let's try this again .....He Lost The Election .. Quit Crying Snowflake ❄️ 😢 😅😊
Panic? 😆😆trfmp will be in prison, preferably Gitmo😁😎
RFK Jr