Yeah I guess...they sound disingenuous and I have a hard time believing that either of them completed all of these games, or even most of them. They're not lists based off of their own experiences, just reading a script. I would bet money they've only completed 1-2 of the games they read. I hate when people read scripts about things they didn't do and make it seem like it was personal experience, I don't care if it's their job, it rings false.
Myst suffers from one main problem: Every puzzle in the game has clues that make it very obvious what it's for, and all pipes and wires show what they are linked to. Every puzzle except for one. And that one puzzle is the very first one you have to solve, and all others are locked behind it. That puzzle being the switches all over the island each turn on a section of the map in the library, and they give no indication that they do anything. Then you need to use the map to rotate the tower, and if the appropriate switch is turned on, the line will turn red for a brief moment as it passes over that part of the island. Going up the elevator will allow access to a window showing the thing, and on the other side of the tower is a plaque giving you the answer on how to access it. (This part was much less obvious in the 1993 version of the game where you could only point and click to move.) So people would play Myst, walk all over the island, see all the puzzle elements, know what must be linked to what, but if they didn't get the only obtuse puzzle in the game that was as far as they'd progress, being completely unaware that there were 4 more areas to the game.
It was kind of tedious, but it definitely was not hard. There were way harder parts and more frustrating parts for sure...like doing the entire Blitz Ball section, the lightning dodging, the Chocobo racing, etc. I did all those about 6-7 times overall when doing a 100% run (EVERY sigil/crest/ultimate weapon + EVERY sidequest). I don't recall having that much trouble doing it when I had too much time on my hands at the beginning of Junior year. As I started focusing only on girls, school, and work...I stopped playing video games, though, because those things were far more important, so probably couldn't do it at age 40 now.
Callisto protocol is one of those games that take bosses and throws them in the game as "regular enemies" I stopped playing it after like my fifth or sixth two headed bioflage or whatever I had to kill. It felt so unapologetically bloated to pump more game time or something
Kingdom come deliverences first mission is absolutely awesome, and my favorite video game opening!!! Taking over Skalitz and enforcing my reign of terror on the locals was one of my favorite video game experiences.
I really had no problem with Ordon Village in TP. For me it was world building. Sure it was beefy, but I originally played it at a point in my life where I had gotten this impression in my head that Zelda games took as long to beat as a J-RPG, so a longwinded start was what I expected. PS. My original playthrough took about 70 hours.... so yeah, J-RPG length.
I’m on my first playthrough of KOTOR and I’m actually enjoying peragus. Think it’s a good way to expose all the elements of the game in a simple and controlled manner without using hand holding tooltips
My first playthru for Pokemon the problem wasn't finding flash, but that Pikachu was my only pokemon that could learn it and I didn't know better, so I was stuck with a Pikachu with flash. Subsequent playthrus saw me working my way thru Rock Tunnel without flash, the most useless gaming mechanic ever. That could be a series in itself : useless/troll mechanics in games
As a huge Final Fantasy fan, I decided to give Kingdom Hearts a try since so many people love it. The first and only one I played was Kingdom Hearts 2, and I didn’t realize until now that Twilight Town was one of the least enjoyable parts of the game (or series). I ended up giving up after a while because I couldn’t understand why this series was so beloved.
As someone that adores Roxas yes. It is terrible. Almost ALL the games hold your hand through the whole thing. What we asked for is a game about Roxas and one of the things that they gave us is basically a game who's tutorial lasts for 4 fukking hours. (This is the ds game 322 days.) After that I stopped giving a crap about the games. It's basically idiotic and only complicated because the writers literally didn't want to make up more than one villain. So they made like 1815189 versions of Ansem the main Villain in question. The plot is only complicated because they quite literally are retconning everything EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.
1:51:37 Plus the fact (spoilers incoming!) we have to physically bury our brother and its not just a cut scene just adds to the weight of the situation. I remember when I first played it I looked up right after if there was a way to save ur brother and No there isnt a secret timer or do the whole game perfectly and he survives twist. I remember literally crying buckets after that ending.
I think it only sucks when you're doing multiple playthroughs. I don't have a "problem" with it, so to say but it's so damn dreadfully slow when starting a new playthrough
Not a defender of The Library but I try to approach it more like a L4D horde mode shooter which makes it go by a little more enjoyably. If it were half the length it would probably be “okay” but drags on far too long
Despite the fact that kotor2 is only partially complete, the tutorial is my least favorite level. If the rest of the game had been completed it might have been fine. But being locked in a single area for hours is a terrible opening
36:44 NOOOOOO! DON'T DO IT! Coming from an exp'd Pokemon player its A MISTAKE TO USE REPELS in places like Rock Tunnel because if u do u'll be about 30 levels under the elite four when it comes time. I've found that with teh gym and trainers alone its not enough EXP to have a shot at the Elite four. That NPC wasnt kidding when he said the Elite four were FAR STRONGER than any Gym Leader (Plus the last gym Giovanni has u so confident since at this point u've already whooped him twice due to him using ground pokemon which ur water and Grass can FEAST on)
@mariawhite7337 yeah the Dalish was depressing ... there were bits of the fade that were tricky but not overall too bad. I hated the politics in Orzammar and I have no sense of direction so I got lost a lot in the caves looking for the thaig.
Umm, i dont get why Bevelle cloister is a problem, to me it was one of the most easiest of the game. If you want 100% complete the game, yea you'd want to search each way, other than thay, it was simple. So i don't get it.
And the jungle in Kingdom hearts, I honestly don't remember having any issues. I'm not saying I know more, far from it, but, two on this video, were literally cake walk to me.
27:03 sounds like a skill issue to me, i did the pin ball one in one take first try and won it wasn't that hard al you needed to do was know how to play pinball
How hard is the Kingdom Hearts level?? It's boring and kinda sucks but it's not "controversial" or "hard". I played the game as a senior in high school, so I guess if I in Elementary school it would have been hard? I don't know.
@@handleunavailable Doesn't change that these people must suck at video games if I had no problem with it as a Senior in High School with no RUclips existing. They said it was 'confusing', which implied they thought it was difficult to figure out. Difficult for a dumb 10 year old playing this back when it came out perhaps.
In my opinion blight town isn't the worst lv in ds1 I think zens castle and almost every lv afterwards is worse. For me blight town isn't a run ender but zens castle is.
Jules needs to stop bitching about Metal Gear, it was a great game and is better than anything made in the last 10 years, so it deserves zero criticism. On that note, can we (people born in the mid 80s) just gatekeep everything we grew up with? I mean, if people try to change anything, they should be banned from playing it and forced only to play games in their lifespan. The same goes with movies, we don't need people trying to 'censor' and 'modify' movies/TV shows from when I was growing up. Any overt racism should stay in the original media, and nothing should be changed...AT ALL. It's no one's business, and there is nothing at all wrong with anything made in the 80s/90s/early 2000s. I'm so glad I have a vast collection of DVD's covering the media from that time, that means no matter what, no one can change what I watch. I'm surprised people don't try to censor American History X, despite it being an amazing movie with a great message. There is nothing that needs to be censored in that, especially the market scene or the curb stomping.
These phonies talking like they played these games is annoying. It doesn't matter if it's their "job" They shouldn't be talking about these like these are from experiences, it's obnoxious. Like the chick, ya I'm sure you played Quake, sure thing. If they haven't played the games they should be talking about them, they should find people that have. Also, carpet bombing is a good military tactic for eliminating a lot of enemies at once, my Dad was part of a group of planes that had to carpet bomb during Vietnam. He told me fun stories of crispy critters haha. Can't pull any guerrilla tactics if you have no trees...or muscles/skin haha. He told me when I was playing Metal Slug that the way the crispy critters ran around on fire was similar to what he remembered. That's what you get for trying to hide in the trees and ambush Americans. One other funny story was about a guy that would supply my Dad's friends with weed, and other things not allowed on base, and when he found out he was a guerrilla well...he no longer had need of his 'wares' anymore LOL...and everything was 100% off that didn't accidentally catch a stray piece of metal. He was told to take out all VC, and since that guy was VC, then he was doing his job (and well). Some might call them war crimes, but my Dad called it 'protecting himself from a VC'. My Dad told me a funny story about how the M-16 worked like a saw if aimed at ankles, and it only took a few bullets to just cut through like uncooked steak haha (as in jagged and like an animal had chewed through it). Oh the stories I could tell that are even funnier involving loudmouth people talking trash to people from the south and then mysteriously going MIA. At least that's what his squad thought when asked. I mean he could've stopped himself on jagged rocks, gotten to the side of the river, climbed back up a 1000ft to where the rest of the squad was, and then continued on. So I'd call that being MIA haha...oh wait he had no gear with him that's right..and his dog tags "accidentally" came off before he clumsily "tripped" over the ropes on the bridge, and without his gear. Pvt. Snowball was never seen again however, psh lazy guy going MIA like that after tripping of the side of the bridge. I bet he said something silly like people threw him over. I mean that's not what EVERYONE 'saw' that didn't look the other way when told. Makes me laugh just thinking about it.
@elidragom this is a lazy mashup of videos that mostly just released. That is 1,000,000,000% a reason to hate this. If you are fine with them disrespecting loyal viewer's time, that's on you.
Absolutely love these. Perfect for a background video
Yeah I guess...they sound disingenuous and I have a hard time believing that either of them completed all of these games, or even most of them. They're not lists based off of their own experiences, just reading a script. I would bet money they've only completed 1-2 of the games they read. I hate when people read scripts about things they didn't do and make it seem like it was personal experience, I don't care if it's their job, it rings false.
Myst suffers from one main problem: Every puzzle in the game has clues that make it very obvious what it's for, and all pipes and wires show what they are linked to. Every puzzle except for one. And that one puzzle is the very first one you have to solve, and all others are locked behind it. That puzzle being the switches all over the island each turn on a section of the map in the library, and they give no indication that they do anything. Then you need to use the map to rotate the tower, and if the appropriate switch is turned on, the line will turn red for a brief moment as it passes over that part of the island.
Going up the elevator will allow access to a window showing the thing, and on the other side of the tower is a plaque giving you the answer on how to access it. (This part was much less obvious in the 1993 version of the game where you could only point and click to move.)
So people would play Myst, walk all over the island, see all the puzzle elements, know what must be linked to what, but if they didn't get the only obtuse puzzle in the game that was as far as they'd progress, being completely unaware that there were 4 more areas to the game.
I totally blocked out the Bevelle Cloister from my memory. Oof. Maybe it's better that I never got around to playing the FFX remaster...
It was kind of tedious, but it definitely was not hard. There were way harder parts and more frustrating parts for sure...like doing the entire Blitz Ball section, the lightning dodging, the Chocobo racing, etc. I did all those about 6-7 times overall when doing a 100% run (EVERY sigil/crest/ultimate weapon + EVERY sidequest).
I don't recall having that much trouble doing it when I had too much time on my hands at the beginning of Junior year. As I started focusing only on girls, school, and work...I stopped playing video games, though, because those things were far more important, so probably couldn't do it at age 40 now.
@@tyspy64 Everything in this comment. Bevelle isn't even the most difficult cloister to 100% lol
Callisto protocol is one of those games that take bosses and throws them in the game as "regular enemies" I stopped playing it after like my fifth or sixth two headed bioflage or whatever I had to kill. It felt so unapologetically bloated to pump more game time or something
Really isn’t worth finishing the story is pretty mid anyways
Stuntman loved it. Totally completed everything on it
ive beat both 1 and 2 numerous times in my life :) fantastic series
Kingdom come deliverences first mission is absolutely awesome, and my favorite video game opening!!! Taking over Skalitz and enforcing my reign of terror on the locals was one of my favorite video game experiences.
I really had no problem with Ordon Village in TP. For me it was world building. Sure it was beefy, but I originally played it at a point in my life where I had gotten this impression in my head that Zelda games took as long to beat as a J-RPG, so a longwinded start was what I expected. PS. My original playthrough took about 70 hours.... so yeah, J-RPG length.
I’m on my first playthrough of KOTOR and I’m actually enjoying peragus. Think it’s a good way to expose all the elements of the game in a simple and controlled manner without using hand holding tooltips
It's a lot of fun...the first time. It gets real old real fast on repeat playthroughs. What are you playing it on?
@@jacobpaulson214 pc
I’m on my first play through and I hate peragus, made me never come back to the game.
I never minded peragus but I'm biased, kotor 1 and 2 are my favorite games
The thumbnail is reminded me of the four year frustration I had finishing that level😂😂
Love the hour long videos keep it up 👍❤
7:10 wait til they get to the John Connor truck level and t-1000 helicopter level
I enjoy Peragus. I hate auto-leveling in Peragus.
My first playthru for Pokemon the problem wasn't finding flash, but that Pikachu was my only pokemon that could learn it and I didn't know better, so I was stuck with a Pikachu with flash. Subsequent playthrus saw me working my way thru Rock Tunnel without flash, the most useless gaming mechanic ever. That could be a series in itself : useless/troll mechanics in games
As a huge Final Fantasy fan, I decided to give Kingdom Hearts a try since so many people love it. The first and only one I played was Kingdom Hearts 2, and I didn’t realize until now that Twilight Town was one of the least enjoyable parts of the game (or series). I ended up giving up after a while because I couldn’t understand why this series was so beloved.
Kingdom hearts is weird considering it is a kids game that you almost need a degree to under the plot.
As someone that adores Roxas yes. It is terrible. Almost ALL the games hold your hand through the whole thing. What we asked for is a game about Roxas and one of the things that they gave us is basically a game who's tutorial lasts for 4 fukking hours. (This is the ds game 322 days.) After that I stopped giving a crap about the games. It's basically idiotic and only complicated because the writers literally didn't want to make up more than one villain. So they made like 1815189 versions of Ansem the main Villain in question.
The plot is only complicated because they quite literally are retconning everything EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.
1:51:37 Plus the fact (spoilers incoming!) we have to physically bury our brother and its not just a cut scene just adds to the weight of the situation. I remember when I first played it I looked up right after if there was a way to save ur brother and No there isnt a secret timer or do the whole game perfectly and he survives twist. I remember literally crying buckets after that ending.
I loved rdr2s first level.
I think it only sucks when you're doing multiple playthroughs. I don't have a "problem" with it, so to say but it's so damn dreadfully slow when starting a new playthrough
Not a defender of The Library but I try to approach it more like a L4D horde mode shooter which makes it go by a little more enjoyably. If it were half the length it would probably be “okay” but drags on far too long
The race in Mafia is still damn near impossible lol
The trick with the Mako is to use aiming to steer it.
Gregory finchs death chapter was more hitting in what remains of Edith finch
Despite the fact that kotor2 is only partially complete, the tutorial is my least favorite level. If the rest of the game had been completed it might have been fine. But being locked in a single area for hours is a terrible opening
Sonic Frontiers..... I honestly didnt have much of a problem with Chaos Island.... and finished the pinball on my second attempt
36:44 NOOOOOO! DON'T DO IT! Coming from an exp'd Pokemon player its A MISTAKE TO USE REPELS in places like Rock Tunnel because if u do u'll be about 30 levels under the elite four when it comes time. I've found that with teh gym and trainers alone its not enough EXP to have a shot at the Elite four. That NPC wasnt kidding when he said the Elite four were FAR STRONGER than any Gym Leader (Plus the last gym Giovanni has u so confident since at this point u've already whooped him twice due to him using ground pokemon which ur water and Grass can FEAST on)
Umm... you can just grind. I usually grind out levels near the end. You don't have to go through rock tunnel and fight there to win.
@@mariawhite7337 Yeah true. Im just someone who HATES grinding and tries to win Pokemon by using the type advantages.
Unpopular Opinion: I disliked Orzammar more than I dislike the Fade in Dragon Age: Origins
The fade was pretty easy, IMO. The beginning with the dwarves, hard as crap. But it's not as depressing as the dalish one.
@mariawhite7337 yeah the Dalish was depressing ... there were bits of the fade that were tricky but not overall too bad. I hated the politics in Orzammar and I have no sense of direction so I got lost a lot in the caves looking for the thaig.
Superman 64, nuf said.
i played ghost runner without assist:)
Could we get chapters and time stamps on these videos?
Have you guys ever played forbidden siren? 😁
WHY DOES SHE SOUND LIKE THAT LIKE SHES HOLDING HER NOSE LMAOOOO
Wow a sonic game that slows down you don't say.
Gurivegan broke me.
The second level is worse in terminator. Protecting the jeep from attacks. Screw that game.
Say it right:…its Jet Set Radiooooooooo
I personally hated kotor 1 more than kotor 2s starting missions
I agree with the prologue in Kingdom Hearts 2. I don't completely hate it but, it does go on way too long.
damn you can just make compilations of other peoples compilations? i gotta start doing that im tired of being a good person getting NOWHERE
It's a compilation of videos from their own channel
@@svmmyb0i220 oh thats cool then my b
Water temple 😅
Umm, i dont get why Bevelle cloister is a problem, to me it was one of the most easiest of the game. If you want 100% complete the game, yea you'd want to search each way, other than thay, it was simple. So i don't get it.
And the jungle in Kingdom hearts, I honestly don't remember having any issues. I'm not saying I know more, far from it, but, two on this video, were literally cake walk to me.
Alot of these, the people speaking about said games, don't know the actual games, reading script's.
Any platforming level... Full stop
27:03 sounds like a skill issue to me, i did the pin ball one in one take first try and won it wasn't that hard al you needed to do was know how to play pinball
@1:09 now i have an image of a wappy toothless stuck in my head
How hard is the Kingdom Hearts level?? It's boring and kinda sucks but it's not "controversial" or "hard". I played the game as a senior in high school, so I guess if I in Elementary school it would have been hard? I don't know.
They didn't say it was hard, it's part of the first 10 games which all have bad beginning levels.
@@handleunavailable Doesn't change that these people must suck at video games if I had no problem with it as a Senior in High School with no RUclips existing. They said it was 'confusing', which implied they thought it was difficult to figure out. Difficult for a dumb 10 year old playing this back when it came out perhaps.
Pretty sure they ment confusing as on story wise@@tyspy64
No cap, the fact that the Goopy Inferno from Mario Sunshine is not on this list at all is kinda mind blowing
Anda wota' 😮💨😂😂
after they talked about twilight town and kh as whole i stopped taking this video seriously lmaoooo
Disconnect with your Title. "162 Most Controversial Levels In Gaming History"
KOTOR2'S only completed part of the game is the tutorial.
Ah yes. Such great commentary.
You truly said something.
Wait...typed a thing.
It was hilarious and any fan of KOTOR2 laughed at that because it's true.
@wittyithink9109 Very ironic considering your name. Lilipop is right tho. 🤷♂️😂
Fax
KOTOR 1 & 2 are stup1d af
In my opinion blight town isn't the worst lv in ds1 I think zens castle and almost every lv afterwards is worse. For me blight town isn't a run ender but zens castle is.
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I didn't think Farron keep was all that bad
Jules needs to stop bitching about Metal Gear, it was a great game and is better than anything made in the last 10 years, so it deserves zero criticism. On that note, can we (people born in the mid 80s) just gatekeep everything we grew up with? I mean, if people try to change anything, they should be banned from playing it and forced only to play games in their lifespan. The same goes with movies, we don't need people trying to 'censor' and 'modify' movies/TV shows from when I was growing up. Any overt racism should stay in the original media, and nothing should be changed...AT ALL. It's no one's business, and there is nothing at all wrong with anything made in the 80s/90s/early 2000s.
I'm so glad I have a vast collection of DVD's covering the media from that time, that means no matter what, no one can change what I watch. I'm surprised people don't try to censor American History X, despite it being an amazing movie with a great message. There is nothing that needs to be censored in that, especially the market scene or the curb stomping.
do people really spend hours watching nothing content like this
These phonies talking like they played these games is annoying. It doesn't matter if it's their "job" They shouldn't be talking about these like these are from experiences, it's obnoxious. Like the chick, ya I'm sure you played Quake, sure thing. If they haven't played the games they should be talking about them, they should find people that have.
Also, carpet bombing is a good military tactic for eliminating a lot of enemies at once, my Dad was part of a group of planes that had to carpet bomb during Vietnam. He told me fun stories of crispy critters haha. Can't pull any guerrilla tactics if you have no trees...or muscles/skin haha. He told me when I was playing Metal Slug that the way the crispy critters ran around on fire was similar to what he remembered. That's what you get for trying to hide in the trees and ambush Americans.
One other funny story was about a guy that would supply my Dad's friends with weed, and other things not allowed on base, and when he found out he was a guerrilla well...he no longer had need of his 'wares' anymore LOL...and everything was 100% off that didn't accidentally catch a stray piece of metal. He was told to take out all VC, and since that guy was VC, then he was doing his job (and well). Some might call them war crimes, but my Dad called it 'protecting himself from a VC'. My Dad told me a funny story about how the M-16 worked like a saw if aimed at ankles, and it only took a few bullets to just cut through like uncooked steak haha (as in jagged and like an animal had chewed through it).
Oh the stories I could tell that are even funnier involving loudmouth people talking trash to people from the south and then mysteriously going MIA. At least that's what his squad thought when asked. I mean he could've stopped himself on jagged rocks, gotten to the side of the river, climbed back up a 1000ft to where the rest of the squad was, and then continued on. So I'd call that being MIA haha...oh wait he had no gear with him that's right..and his dog tags "accidentally" came off before he clumsily "tripped" over the ropes on the bridge, and without his gear. Pvt. Snowball was never seen again however, psh lazy guy going MIA like that after tripping of the side of the bridge. I bet he said something silly like people threw him over. I mean that's not what EVERYONE 'saw' that didn't look the other way when told. Makes me laugh just thinking about it.
Seriously. just skip a day.
Fck no
Biggest-hater-for-no-reason award goes to you. Congrats, king 👑
@elidragom this is a lazy mashup of videos that mostly just released. That is 1,000,000,000% a reason to hate this. If you are fine with them disrespecting loyal viewer's time, that's on you.
@@cppblanknobody said you had to watch
@@DarkAbyss9 I didn't. They need to know these mashups are garbage that disrespect only their loyal fans.
really don't like the 2 hour compilations
Then don't watch 🤷
So help they’re algorithms by leaving a comment 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I don't usually either but this one interested me.
Tell someone who cares
I didn’t think so either….. but here we are!
7:50 I played the demo and I died around 70 times
I felt like forespoken was a really good game. I had a blast playing it.
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