Repashy got into flower powder frozen. It sucks, feed it from the fridge. By the way, I also love repashy, especially bottom scrather. But I had one source in tiny Sweden, the store exists, but their source went bankrupt during Covid... So now I can not get new life spectrum or Repashy. But I like the challenge, has forced me to find new ones.
Howdy Carter, I'm glad the video was helpful. Discus are great fish...spoiled as hell, but great! I hope you have great success with them. If you have any questions as you prepare to get them, please feel free to ask me. Also, if you are not already aware of it, joining the forums at simplydiscus.com might be a good move. LOTS of discus experts there. Best, Dan
Nice to learn something new! I Wonder though wont the food get very acidic if you soak it in fulvic acid? And maybe irritate their stomach? I have oak extrct and it is pH 0,6.
I'm getting my first lot of discus in 2 months...I will be giving mine earthworms from my worm farm for their protein source...the other thing I wanted to mention was I saw a video with Cory from aqaurium co-op and he coated a terracotta pot in a thin layer of repashy by rolling it in the stuff before it set...that might be a good way of encouraging grazing and foraging behaviour too..
I got new Discus and they haven't eaten any food for 7 days now. I was freaking out but then I saw them nibbling like you said on the slimy algae on roots and other surfaces which gave me some relief but they still won't eat frozen blood worms, dead brine shrimp, flakes, pellets, vibra bites, I'm all out of options. I guess the last thing is to try live black worms... is there anything that grows slimy algae so my discus can at least feed on that? Anything helps.
You can take a river rock, put it in the sunlight, and quickly grow some algae on it. They might nibble on that. However, I think blackworms are your best bet...if they will eat anything, it will be blackworms. Good luck and I sincerely hope they recover and perk up soon.
Hi Dan, Great vid as usual! Regarding the Fluvic acid additive , Would it be possible to use a blackwater extract for this purpose? Many Thank, Rich, 🇬🇧
I'm assuming there will be some fulvic acid in the blackwater extract, but I don't know if it will be a high enough concentration to soak into the food in any kind of meaningful way. I don't know that it won't work either and I couldn't guess on how to measure to see if it actually adds sufficient fulvic acid content to the food.
Hi Dan !!! Absolutely loved your video... please let us know the proportion of dosage of humic and fulvic acid which u use in your food. Tried to find the recommended dosage on the net , but couldn’t find any .....
Hello Sameer, Glad the video was helpful. I simply thaw my frozen fish foods in a mix of about 50% water and 50% fulvic acid on occasion. I know that is not scientific, but it seems to work. If you want to have exact ratios, this link will take you to a paper describing a scientific study using fulvic acid (from humus excracts) to eradicate aeromonus infections in carp. The has dosing info: www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jvms/69/4/69_4_405/_pdf
@@DansFish what do you think about peppering on discus, environment issue or bad genetics? I've had some breeders trying to sell me pigeons with peppering telling me it will disappear with a light background and gravel....my question is if the juvenile discus has peppering it will always have it...?
Peter, I'm not sure. There seems to be MANY schools of thought on peppering. My thought is that it is a genetic trait inherited from the pigeon blood line. Personally, I think heavily peppered fish tend to keep the peppering, though it may dissipate a bit as they grow. That's my thoughts, but I want to stress that I don't know for sure and am as confused about it as most other folks.
GREAT INFO I am going to be new to discus, looking for respashy, found some at joshs frogs, the community does not look the same as yours, where do you get yours ? also i have been told that a 4 inch discus is the way to go for someone new to discus. they are stronger and not in need of a water change everyday, i am not new to fish keeping, have 4 tanks,
Hello rita, Thanks for watching! 4 inch discus are great, but they are still growing, maybe just not as fast as the smaller guys. I don't think that bigger discus are necessarily stronger, but, once their growth slows down, they do not have to be fed as frequently which does make the water change regime a bit easier. In my experience, most discus are not used to Repashy and need to be converted...some patience will be required as they learn to eat it. There are many online dealers. Here's a pretty good one: www.aquariumcoop.com/collections/repashy-foods/products/repashy-community-plus?variant=21988903940
thank you so much for sharing this awesome info,i just subbed to your channel,,can I ask you some questions as i remember them ,,,like what's the best temperature for discus ,,I'm sure you'll have many,many subscribers ,,and L am new to discus thank you very much👍💯💯
I am curious abt this, most fish from the same areas get kept in high 70s but for Discus we are alwys told to keep them alive they need 80+ Do they come from some special area that is alwys above 80 ? I know the comments section isn't the best way to reply, maybe make a mental note to cover it in a future vid?
Great question! Sorry for the delayed reply. I just figured out how to find comments that need replies in RUclips. My guess is that the reason discus need high temps in the aquarium is because we made them that way. Breeders have kept them at high temps for decades in order to boost the fish's immune systems and their libidos. Over time, they have become somewhat dependent on those temps. It is the same way with many strains of fancy guppies and such. After generations of pampering at high temps, they are now adjusted to those high temps. Wild guppies are hard to kill. Lots of strains of fancy guppies are quite delicate. The expense of discus, and some of the high-end guppies, means that keepers, myself included, are not willing to keep them at lower temps for fear of losing them. And so the cycle continues. That's my take on it anyway.
Great information! Thank you for sharing. I'm new to raising Discuss, so I am hungry for information on nutrition and disease control/prevention so this is great! I will be looking into it.
@@DansFish Hi Dan, I'm sure enjoying the Discus care videos, thank you so much. I do have a question about the dilution rate of Ful- power to water you use to soak the frozen, then rinsed brine shrimp in before feeding your fish?
Craig, The good thing about fulvic acid is that, like Vitamin C, it is virtually impossible to overdose. I usually soak the food in a mix of 1 part water and 1 part Ful-Power. It is not very scientific, but it seems to work.
Hi Dan nice video you mention some cuisine of white worme that we can grow at room temperature you say something like gray seidges? I don't if that is the right spell but I can't finde any thing on the net thanks
Hello T Ferreira, They are from Greg Sage at Select Aquatics. I have not kept them myself, but have read about them on his website. Here's a link: www.selectaquatics.com/white_worms.htm
You seem like you have some sort of ecology/biology background. Wondering if you have a degree? Very great informative video, though as a male I could care less about your shaving habits, hahahaha. I came here interested in the Fulvic acid info, but found your other takes on other food very informative, also, and has made me reconsider adding a wider variety to them. I have been using a homemade recipe mix I found online and made like 6 or 7 lbs just because the ingredients were hard to buy in small quantity, but I did only spend ~$80 vs Repashy 4.4lbs for about the same price. Repashy is a dry good, so that might actually be a better deal per volume as well, and making it was definitely a PITA. I also found it informative when you mentioned not feeding your discus colored foods before shipping because they will turn in a few weeks if not on the same diet. I decided not to include any spirulina in my mix for fear of turning my yellows, but the green beans and spinach turned them green anyway...Also, my Super Reds faded to orange after about a month, and eventually almost the same color as my Ghosts. I had to start feeding them some color food once a week to try and get their colors back to normal, but my yellows are still green... Great video overall though, bro. Hope you do well. I checked out your site, and you have an amazing variety of unique discus that looks to have come from a great supplier. I think you will do very well. GL
Hello James, Sorry for the late reply...I've been on the road for a week. I have 3 college degrees and am just shy of a Ph.D. However, my degrees are in the entertainment industry, not eco/bio. That being said, I have been fascinated by nature my entire life and have read quite a bit about bio/eco. In fact, I sometimes guest lecture on fish in my college's biology department and I used to supply fish and consult for UC Santa Barbara on a parasitology project involving a local killifish and a brain parasite...really weird stuff! Best, Dan
Hello Krissy, Thanks for the query and welcome to discus! By bloodworms, I'm assuming we mean the 1/4"-1/2" bright red worms which are commonly sold frozen...the midge larvae and not blackworms. If so, then I have never had any bloat issues. However, I always rotate foods, so I have never fed them nothing but bloodworms for any length of time, so I don't know if a constant diet of bloodworms and little else would cause bloat or not. I find if I rotate lots of different foods, I don't get bloat problems, especially if I feed brine shrimp as a feeding every day or two to help clear the fish out. Best, Dan
I know a lot of folks use a beef heart mixture and many pros have done so for years. Personally, I have never used beef heart as I have always had plenty of other foods available, so I don't have much info for you about it. I find Repashy works well and is very easy to use, so that is my go-to instead of beef heart. I don't think there is anything wrong with beef heart, I just don't use it.
Howdy Radek, I use the Ful-Power from BioAg. Here's a link: www.amazon.com/Hydro-BioAg-Ful-Power-2-5-Gallon/dp/B015V6MOQ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1508703110&sr=8-2&keywords=fulpower Best, Dan
Oh, cool! Thanks for sharing. I don't really have any experience with it, so I can't offer an opinion, but it is great to see where it is available if folks want to try it.
Dans Fish Thanks Dan, just watching the vid you did with the main man about the Fluvic acid you use, very interesting so far, about half way through, I’ve got Altum Angles and 68, L146 breeding group I want to try it on, keep up the good work , Rich
Dans Fish I’ve got some Fluvic acid as well now a Uk brand called Vitalink, just in case I Carnot get back to finish watching the rest of the vid, is it still a great move to soak the food before feed and mix in when making my repashy ? , Regards Rich , Uk
Richard Walker hi Richard I’m in the U.K. too and just looking for fulvic acids also, how did you get on with the vitalink brand ? Was it ok Thanks Andy
Andrew Jones Hi Andrew, I’ve tried a couple of times to contact Vitalink with no reply, it does say Marine friendly on the web site, however I chose to get human grade instead of risking it, it’s more money but a lot stronger so you only need a tiny bit, hope this helps 👍🏻
@@DansFish Hi Dan, thank you for responding to my comments and questions. I have two more questions regarding the Fulvic acid use and wanted to let you know where I got my Fulvic acid, I think I got a pretty good deal compared to what I found on line. Anyway, my questions. How long of you soak the brine shrimp in the Fulvic acid solution, and do you put it in your refrigerator, or just leave it out at room temperature? Thank you.
And I wanted to let you know where I found my Bio-Again Fulvic acid. I found it in a Hydroponics/grow shop that I get my plant fertilizer, go figure. I got a 2.5 gallon jug of it for $89.00. Just FYI (p.s. I can't get my Discus to eat the Mysis shrimp. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help.
Craig, I thaw my brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc in the solution in the morning. Once everything is thawed and ready to feed, I feed out what I need, then I put the rest in a fridge and let it further soak in the solution and feed the rest at lunch or dinner.
Glad you found some locally...that's great! Funny that your discus won't eat the mysis. Mysis is what I use to get discus to start eating...in my experience they have always absolutely loved it. If you are using PE freshwater mysis, than I have no idea why they would not be eating it. Perhaps keep trying...they will come around eventually.
I get mine on this little website called amazon. Here's a link: www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dlawngarden&field-keywords=bioag+ful-power&rh=n%3A2972638011%2Ck%3Abioag+ful-power
You are right...a strainer is great! I actually use a plastic flour sifter for rinsing frozen food...works great for larger quantities. Bloodworms, however, tend to get their hooks caught in the mesh of a strainer, so I just use a jar for rinsing them.
Dans Fish yeah like a big tea strainer. I think the mesh is finer in a tea strainer. Coincidencently I was using one today to wash some blood worms and cyclops, works great. As I'm here in England tea strainers are common place.
Repashy got into flower powder frozen. It sucks, feed it from the fridge. By the way, I also love repashy, especially bottom scrather. But I had one source in tiny Sweden, the store exists, but their source went bankrupt during Covid... So now I can not get new life spectrum or Repashy. But I like the challenge, has forced me to find new ones.
Very informative video. I plan to purchase a few discus next month, very helpful video!
Howdy Carter,
I'm glad the video was helpful. Discus are great fish...spoiled as hell, but great! I hope you have great success with them. If you have any questions as you prepare to get them, please feel free to ask me. Also, if you are not already aware of it, joining the forums at simplydiscus.com might be a good move. LOTS of discus experts there.
Best,
Dan
Great Video. (Sidney MT Discus keeper) I’ve had two pairs for about 6 months now. Having issues getting one female to eat. This really helped. Thanks.
Hello Aaron,
Glad it was useful. I hope you get her eating soon!!!
Nice to learn something new! I Wonder though wont the food get very acidic if you soak it in fulvic acid? And maybe irritate their stomach? I have oak extrct and it is pH 0,6.
Hi the Fulvic acid I am getting is for soil base please advise
I'm getting my first lot of discus in 2 months...I will be giving mine earthworms from my worm farm for their protein source...the other thing I wanted to mention was I saw a video with Cory from aqaurium co-op and he coated a terracotta pot in a thin layer of repashy by rolling it in the stuff before it set...that might be a good way of encouraging grazing and foraging behaviour too..
Melody,
I like the Rapashy coating idea! If you try it out, please let me know how it works for you!
Best,
Dan
I got new Discus and they haven't eaten any food for 7 days now. I was freaking out but then I saw them nibbling like you said on the slimy algae on roots and other surfaces which gave me some relief but they still won't eat frozen blood worms, dead brine shrimp, flakes, pellets, vibra bites, I'm all out of options. I guess the last thing is to try live black worms... is there anything that grows slimy algae so my discus can at least feed on that? Anything helps.
You can take a river rock, put it in the sunlight, and quickly grow some algae on it. They might nibble on that. However, I think blackworms are your best bet...if they will eat anything, it will be blackworms. Good luck and I sincerely hope they recover and perk up soon.
Hi Dan,
Great vid as usual!
Regarding the Fluvic acid additive ,
Would it be possible to use a blackwater extract for this purpose?
Many Thank,
Rich,
🇬🇧
I'm assuming there will be some fulvic acid in the blackwater extract, but I don't know if it will be a high enough concentration to soak into the food in any kind of meaningful way. I don't know that it won't work either and I couldn't guess on how to measure to see if it actually adds sufficient fulvic acid content to the food.
Hi Dan !!! Absolutely loved your video... please let us know the proportion of dosage of humic and fulvic acid which u use in your food. Tried to find the recommended dosage on the net , but couldn’t find any .....
Hello Sameer,
Glad the video was helpful. I simply thaw my frozen fish foods in a mix of about 50% water and 50% fulvic acid on occasion. I know that is not scientific, but it seems to work. If you want to have exact ratios, this link will take you to a paper describing a scientific study using fulvic acid (from humus excracts) to eradicate aeromonus infections in carp. The has dosing info: www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jvms/69/4/69_4_405/_pdf
amazing and informative video, must watch if you want to keep discus!!!
Thanks Peter, I'm glad it was helpful.
@@DansFish what do you think about peppering on discus, environment issue or bad genetics? I've had some breeders trying to sell me pigeons with peppering telling me it will disappear with a light background and gravel....my question is if the juvenile discus has peppering it will always have it...?
Peter,
I'm not sure. There seems to be MANY schools of thought on peppering. My thought is that it is a genetic trait inherited from the pigeon blood line. Personally, I think heavily peppered fish tend to keep the peppering, though it may dissipate a bit as they grow. That's my thoughts, but I want to stress that I don't know for sure and am as confused about it as most other folks.
GREAT INFO I am going to be new to discus, looking for respashy, found some at joshs frogs, the community does not look the same as yours, where do you get yours ? also i have been told that a 4 inch discus is the way to go for someone new to discus. they are stronger and not in need of a water change everyday, i am not new to fish keeping, have 4 tanks,
Hello rita,
Thanks for watching! 4 inch discus are great, but they are still growing, maybe just not as fast as the smaller guys. I don't think that bigger discus are necessarily stronger, but, once their growth slows down, they do not have to be fed as frequently which does make the water change regime a bit easier. In my experience, most discus are not used to Repashy and need to be converted...some patience will be required as they learn to eat it. There are many online dealers. Here's a pretty good one: www.aquariumcoop.com/collections/repashy-foods/products/repashy-community-plus?variant=21988903940
Where do you source the fulvic acid? Thanks
Quick Amazon search will get you some.
thank you so much for sharing this awesome info,i just subbed to your channel,,can I ask you some questions as i remember them ,,,like what's the best temperature for discus ,,I'm sure you'll have many,many subscribers ,,and L am new to discus thank you very much👍💯💯
George, discus like it warm...the mid 80's F seems to work well. I keep mine in the 84F-86F degree range.
I am curious abt this, most fish from the same areas get kept in high 70s but for Discus we are alwys told to keep them alive they need 80+ Do they come from some special area that is alwys above 80 ? I know the comments section isn't the best way to reply, maybe make a mental note to cover it in a future vid?
Great question! Sorry for the delayed reply. I just figured out how to find comments that need replies in RUclips. My guess is that the reason discus need high temps in the aquarium is because we made them that way. Breeders have kept them at high temps for decades in order to boost the fish's immune systems and their libidos. Over time, they have become somewhat dependent on those temps. It is the same way with many strains of fancy guppies and such. After generations of pampering at high temps, they are now adjusted to those high temps. Wild guppies are hard to kill. Lots of strains of fancy guppies are quite delicate. The expense of discus, and some of the high-end guppies, means that keepers, myself included, are not willing to keep them at lower temps for fear of losing them. And so the cycle continues. That's my take on it anyway.
Great information! Thank you for sharing. I'm new to raising Discuss, so I am hungry for information on nutrition and disease control/prevention so this is great! I will be looking into it.
You are welcome, Craig. Best wishes for success with your discus adventures!
@@DansFish Hi Dan, I'm sure enjoying the Discus care videos, thank you so much. I do have a question about the dilution rate of Ful- power to water you use to soak the frozen, then rinsed brine shrimp in before feeding your fish?
Craig,
The good thing about fulvic acid is that, like Vitamin C, it is virtually impossible to overdose. I usually soak the food in a mix of 1 part water and 1 part Ful-Power. It is not very scientific, but it seems to work.
big ths all the way from UK... u got 4 yes, haha
great video
Thanks Courtz! Glad you liked it.
Dan
Hi Dan nice video you mention some cuisine of white worme that we can grow at room temperature you say something like gray seidges? I don't if that is the right spell but I can't finde any thing on the net thanks
Hello T Ferreira,
They are from Greg Sage at Select Aquatics. I have not kept them myself, but have read about them on his website. Here's a link: www.selectaquatics.com/white_worms.htm
You seem like you have some sort of ecology/biology background. Wondering if you have a degree? Very great informative video, though as a male I could care less about your shaving habits, hahahaha.
I came here interested in the Fulvic acid info, but found your other takes on other food very informative, also, and has made me reconsider adding a wider variety to them. I have been using a homemade recipe mix I found online and made like 6 or 7 lbs just because the ingredients were hard to buy in small quantity, but I did only spend ~$80 vs Repashy 4.4lbs for about the same price. Repashy is a dry good, so that might actually be a better deal per volume as well, and making it was definitely a PITA.
I also found it informative when you mentioned not feeding your discus colored foods before shipping because they will turn in a few weeks if not on the same diet. I decided not to include any spirulina in my mix for fear of turning my yellows, but the green beans and spinach turned them green anyway...Also, my Super Reds faded to orange after about a month, and eventually almost the same color as my Ghosts. I had to start feeding them some color food once a week to try and get their colors back to normal, but my yellows are still green...
Great video overall though, bro. Hope you do well. I checked out your site, and you have an amazing variety of unique discus that looks to have come from a great supplier. I think you will do very well. GL
Hello James,
Sorry for the late reply...I've been on the road for a week. I have 3 college degrees and am just shy of a Ph.D. However, my degrees are in the entertainment industry, not eco/bio. That being said, I have been fascinated by nature my entire life and have read quite a bit about bio/eco. In fact, I sometimes guest lecture on fish in my college's biology department and I used to supply fish and consult for UC Santa Barbara on a parasitology project involving a local killifish and a brain parasite...really weird stuff!
Best,
Dan
Well great stuff, sir. Keep up the good work.
:)
I use ph down for pools 1/4teaspoon to gallon of water to lower ph in my discus tank 180 gallon a little at a time with a ph meter
Howdy seadooman,
Do you find the pH bounces back up after a day or two, or does it stay down for you?
Do blood worms cause blot in Discus fish I am a knew Discus fish owner. I feed them frozen tiny shirmp and myesis
Hello Krissy,
Thanks for the query and welcome to discus! By bloodworms, I'm assuming we mean the 1/4"-1/2" bright red worms which are commonly sold frozen...the midge larvae and not blackworms. If so, then I have never had any bloat issues. However, I always rotate foods, so I have never fed them nothing but bloodworms for any length of time, so I don't know if a constant diet of bloodworms and little else would cause bloat or not. I find if I rotate lots of different foods, I don't get bloat problems, especially if I feed brine shrimp as a feeding every day or two to help clear the fish out.
Best,
Dan
What about beef hearts is that good for them I see it a lot on RUclips video for Discus
I know a lot of folks use a beef heart mixture and many pros have done so for years. Personally, I have never used beef heart as I have always had plenty of other foods available, so I don't have much info for you about it. I find Repashy works well and is very easy to use, so that is my go-to instead of beef heart. I don't think there is anything wrong with beef heart, I just don't use it.
What brand of Fulvic acid are you using? How to choose the good one?
Howdy Radek,
I use the Ful-Power from BioAg. Here's a link: www.amazon.com/Hydro-BioAg-Ful-Power-2-5-Gallon/dp/B015V6MOQ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1508703110&sr=8-2&keywords=fulpower
Best,
Dan
Happy wife, happy life bro
Totally!
This is the black water human extract I was referring to in the last comment- Richard, UK
www.olibetta.uk/garnelenhaus/glasgarten-liquid-humin
Oh, cool! Thanks for sharing. I don't really have any experience with it, so I can't offer an opinion, but it is great to see where it is available if folks want to try it.
Dans Fish Thanks Dan, just watching the vid you did with the main man about the Fluvic acid you use, very interesting so far, about half way through, I’ve got Altum Angles and 68, L146 breeding group I want to try it on, keep up the good work , Rich
Dans Fish I’ve got some Fluvic acid as well now a Uk brand called Vitalink, just in case I Carnot get back to finish watching the rest of the vid, is it still a great move to soak the food before feed and mix in when making my repashy ? , Regards Rich , Uk
Richard Walker hi Richard I’m in the U.K. too and just looking for fulvic acids also, how did you get on with the vitalink brand ? Was it ok Thanks Andy
Andrew Jones Hi Andrew, I’ve tried a couple of times to contact Vitalink with no reply, it does say Marine friendly on the web site, however I chose to get human grade instead of risking it, it’s more money but a lot stronger so you only need a tiny bit, hope this helps 👍🏻
What dilution rate do you use for the Fulvic acid when you soak the food in it?
About 1 part water to 1 part Fulvic acid...it is all kind-a eyeballed rather than anything specific.
@@DansFish Hi Dan, thank you for responding to my comments and questions. I have two more questions regarding the Fulvic acid use and wanted to let you know where I got my Fulvic acid, I think I got a pretty good deal compared to what I found on line. Anyway, my questions. How long of you soak the brine shrimp in the Fulvic acid solution, and do you put it in your refrigerator, or just leave it out at room temperature? Thank you.
And I wanted to let you know where I found my Bio-Again Fulvic acid. I found it in a Hydroponics/grow shop that I get my plant fertilizer, go figure. I got a 2.5 gallon jug of it for $89.00. Just FYI (p.s. I can't get my Discus to eat the Mysis shrimp. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help.
Craig, I thaw my brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc in the solution in the morning. Once everything is thawed and ready to feed, I feed out what I need, then I put the rest in a fridge and let it further soak in the solution and feed the rest at lunch or dinner.
Glad you found some locally...that's great! Funny that your discus won't eat the mysis. Mysis is what I use to get discus to start eating...in my experience they have always absolutely loved it. If you are using PE freshwater mysis, than I have no idea why they would not be eating it. Perhaps keep trying...they will come around eventually.
Where do you purchase your Fulvic acid?
I get mine on this little website called amazon. Here's a link: www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dlawngarden&field-keywords=bioag+ful-power&rh=n%3A2972638011%2Ck%3Abioag+ful-power
can you share where to purchase the fulvic acid?
I just get it online...Ebay or Amazon.
walmart has it. it's also in most multivitamins if you are already putting that in your food
I think they call that 'tetra color' tetra prima' here in Europe
Good to know!
Washing frozen food, you need to get yourself a tea strainer'
You are right...a strainer is great! I actually use a plastic flour sifter for rinsing frozen food...works great for larger quantities. Bloodworms, however, tend to get their hooks caught in the mesh of a strainer, so I just use a jar for rinsing them.
Dans Fish yeah like a big tea strainer. I think the mesh is finer in a tea strainer. Coincidencently I was using one today to wash some blood worms and cyclops, works great. As I'm here in England tea strainers are common place.