+dire wolf α there was a glitch at some point where if you conceded when you already dealt lethal you'd leave the game immediately and still win, idk if trump was making a joke about that or he didnt know it was fixed
This video reminded me how fast everyone would fall into the toilet if the net ever went down lol.........Props to the math nerd who tossed the summation out there. Nice to see the stuff's applicable to the real world ;)
I was so happy seeing that thumbnail! Please more constructed and more fun decks like the pirate one or this one and not those stupid secret paladins, mid range paladins und mid range druids. I like almost everything else :)
+MeinLink You should play Watcher Druid. :) I won two games vs mages who thought they could freeze my stuff. They were not playing freeze mage, but one had frost nova, and the other used the 4 mana freeze 3 things and deal one damage to them.
You do realise he will only play decks that have competitive value and not just what is considered fun.The reason he is playing this is because it started to get more competitive.
I'm always fascinated with these sort of mill decks. It completely breaks the normal expectation that more cards = winning and if you don't realize you are playing against a mill deck early enough in the game you will just lose. It's great only because it's outside the norm of what is expected. Every card game needs these kind of unusual deck designs.
14:50 I vehemently disagree. The problem with this logic is that it can apply nearly indefinitely, which leads to a feedback loop of ignorance. The problem with being ignorant is that it taints your perception of reality, and your perception effectively _is_ your reality. Your perception has a cascading effect on everything pertaining to your life, and has massive ramifications. All that is to simply say: you're better off with those myriad of seemingly needless tidbits of information, because *collectively* they help make you a better person. Knowing just a little bit can help galvanize you into helping something really important, such as stem cell research, for example.
You deserve a nobel peace prize for this. Seriously, we live in a society where ignorance is "cool" and people openly flaunt and justify it with the kind of flawed logic being said in the video. Anyone that has the balls to step up and metaphorically slap the dick out of people's mouth for defending that ignorance needs to be rewarded.
I remember hearing a story about that triangle numbers equation. The story was, that in late 18th century germany, a teacher needed to collect a wig (for some reason), but he was in the middle of teaching class. So, to keep the class occupied while he went out, he told the class to add up all the numbers, 1 + 2 +3 + 4 etc untill they reached 1000. So the class started on their work, and as the teacher started to leave the room one child burst up "I've done it sir!" (i'm going to assume he said the german equivalent, which i do not know). The teacher was flabergasted. Nobody knows what became of that mans wig. The student turned out to be Carl Friedrich Gauss, who later became a famous mathematician. I don't know if the story is true or not, just thought you might have found it amusing.
The realisation that the person has to sit through your combo is delicious. EDIT: Not true. Oh well. EDIT (2): The fact that you get to watch it through even though your opp bails is at the very least tasty.
I seriously bet half the people bitching in the comments wouldn't have noticed the missed lethal had trump not said anything. Props to Trump for laughing off his misplay and taking it as an opportunity to improve his play. There's a reason this guy wins tournaments; he doesn't pretend to know everything.
I know right! I once played vs Mill Rogue as an Aggro paladin (not face) and he played a total of 8 healbots, and his coldlights just gave me more cheap cards :D And I won :D in fatigue
+Residentevil08 milldecks r more fun than this crappy secret, casino, facehunter, aggro druid sh*t.....and i enjoy to loose to this decks bcuz i can actually draw my deck and not just 4 cards and im on 0 life bcuz my opponent only hits for 30 dmg round 5.....peace.
about the formula: take fatigue damage for drawing six cards: the damage equals 1 + 2 +3+4+5+6. since 1+6 =2+5=3+4, basically it's three(6 /2) pairs of 1+6. so you can transform the expression to (1+6)* 6 / 2, hence (n+1)*n /2. six card draw fatigue will do 21 points of damage.
The problem with that reasoning is very simple: We live in a society developed on the principles of reason, permeated by things that require knowledge not only for development, but also for common use. Sure, you don't *need* to know how a computer works, but if you do know, you're less likely to break it.
+Gabu - San I find it disturbing that our society is becoming very reliant on technology and the products of science and mathematics, and yet as a whole we don't really care about how things work or why things work.
+nyx211 society never has, why do you think it took nearly 4 thousand years for society to decide that monarchy was a bad ruling system or that slavery was wrong?
+nyx211 What good is knowledge how a fucking television works to me if I'm not working as a repairman? What good is a shitty math equasion to me if I never used it in my entire life?
the N(N +1)/2 formula only works if you are summing up 1 + 2 + ... + N If you are already in fatigue then you can use Number of ticks*(first tick + last tick)/2
Doomsayer is actually pretty good, you don't have many ways to clean a board, and to gain time (really important in mill rogue : allow you to have two turns to mill, and to prevent your opponent from playing minions), After a vanish it can also be quite good. And in early game vs aggro deck or midrange deck, it's not that bad !
pretty sure n(n+1) / 2 will only work if there are no cards left in the deck. If there are say, 3 cards left, and 8 cards are to be drawn, then the fatigue damage should be: n*(n*+1) / 2 where n* = number of cards to be drawn - number of cards left in deck n* = 8 - 3 = 5 5(6) / 2 = 15 damage
I've been trying a replacement of: -1 vendor & Drake for +2 Dancing Swords, and -1 thalnos for +1 Deathlord. It's been AMAZING. (the only down side is that you don't get bonus AOE damage from thalnos. Besides that it's perfect.
that redemption backstab play wasn't a mistake. redemption says "When one of your minions dies, return it to life with 1 Health." it shouldn't be damaged, it should come back as a 1 health minion.
Been running a similiar deck for awhile....my big problem with it, is a lot of times I find I don't draw a coldlight until it's far too late for it to matter, if at all.
For those learning mill rogue: don't mill yourself before drawing your second gang-up. Mill rogue has a fair amount of card draw, and it's very possible to be on the same ground as your opponent without the three extra cards.
+Błażej Krawczyk But he'd propably also die from his own fatigue. I don't think he had 5 cards left in deck. So it'd be draw. "Let's pretend that didn't happen :D"
Elise starseeker will be good in mill rogue w the high draw and the potential multiple battlecry triggers and mostly having more cards w gang up so more legendaries
after that first game I'm just thinking: why am I subscribed to this guy? it was a draw. I end on 3 hp and my opponent ends on -6.... but yeah. it totally was a draw. and after the rest of the video, and him saying that it's ok not to know the earth is round... what even.
+Richard Vlášek Let's just stop teaching science in schools because most people won't use it. It's ok to be dumb if you're an average person, because "not average" people will continue to innovate, right?
AkimboBattleLolis Some people believe in God, some people believe in flat Earth. It's the same shit and the amount of pseudo-intellectuals in the comment section is driving me insane.
+Richard Vlášek Well, unless you're an explorer on the ocean. You could fear "The horizon" because since you think the earth is flat, you fear you would fall off at the edge, when in reality, you would just keep going until you hit something. You wouldn't know you 'fell off' until someone from the point you left off, wouldn't see you anymore, which you wouldn't know since if you're coming from a society that thinks the earth is flat, you probably don't have good education which means poor technology, so no cell phones most likely. Alternatively, you could just look back to where you started off from and see it's no longer there and deduce that the Earth is round since you obviously have not fallen anywhere.
Thallanar Rabidtooth You're all missing the fucking point of that entire Trump's speech. He points out that for the vast, incredible majority of people some shitty equasions are never going to be used, just as vast majority of the population is not going to use the fact that the Earth is round. _Also stop trying to disprove someone's beliefs, are you from /r/atheism or what_
"Who cares about things nobody uses in their everyday life" He says while using a formula specifically designed to calculate the damage of a specific hearthstone card when the enemy is fatiguing
For everyone saying that he conceded lethal the forst game, i am just going to repeat what he himself said "Sorry for playing a deck wich is extremely difficult to me poorly for the first time" No one starts playing a deck beign pro with it, requires experience to master even the easiest of decks, now imagine one as difficult as mill rogue..
first game, he had lethal when he conceded.. bran - coldlight x 2 = 36 fatigue dmg to paladin (deck empty, first fatigue draw), trump draws 6 cards and takes 3 dmg for the double fatigue
+Banana_Billy well, he didn't actually said that, he was wondering whether or not he would've won cause chat told him he would, and later he just concluded it would've been a draw.. so.. yeah..
Magic the gathering, had a card called millstone. When you activate it, it puts the top two cards of the opponents library into their graveyard. "Milling" them.
+Kevin Kim or doomsayer. I feel like doomsayer is a really good option here, due to the fact that it prevents any play of cards in one turn, ex: turn 8 vanish doomsayer opponent cant do anything
Trump you should have played those brann coldlights even if it was a guaranteed loss, just for the fireworks. We all love to see the pros make mistakes though. :)
Trump: How many fatigue cards will you draw? Just get the Windows calculator and put in scientific mode, than put the number and n! (factorial). That's your damage. Can calculate your opponents damage as well =)
I hope blizzard wont nerf the mill rogue is so fun but I worry that they do it like with the patron warrior and they will say that its not the style of the game
+MisterCoolman29 Patron mostly got the axe since it was so high profile, gang up rogue represents such a small portion of the meta that it's unlikely to get a similar treatment any time soon. For further evidence there are still a lot of combo decks still in the game even though the stated reason for killing patron was that combo wincons weren't kosher, stuff with Malygos, Majordomo, Antonodias and the like.
Muh Gunz Why is it shitty? Multiple strategies are good for the health of a CCG and this isn't even the most difficult alternate wincon to fight against with a "fair" deck.
It's just an unfair playstyle that the game wasn't really designed for. It punishes players for playing the game correctly. And quite frankly, it's a frustrating play style for your opponent. People don't want to play against someone doing this bullshit. They want to have a fair and fun game. There is more interaction in face hunter than in this shit.
anyone using jeweled scarabs in their mill rogue? fan of knives, deathlord, brann, and coldlights themselves are all things you can get from it, so it can really help with those games where you end up with both your coldlights as your last two cards.
You're not wrong that it isn't important to the average individual, however society builds itself upon the foundation of the generations before it, Einstein born in the bronze age would probably still have died at 22 from syphilis without accomplishing anything of value. It is of paramount importance that each individual learn as much as they possibly can throughout their life, be it practical or scholastic knowledge, so that they can contribute to the progress of society and instead do not inhibit others' with their own voluntary and SELECTIVE ignorance.
+Seanenanigans An old bug used to let either player "concede" out immediately from the game after lethal was dealt to either person. Now it only allows the person who lethal was dealt to (so if you bm, you have to watch the entire sequence).
If you conceded the first game you have missed the point of mill rogue entirely. That is literally one of the most clear cut win conditions that a mill rogue can get.
Since when is rank 15 high level? I know Trump's a good player, but I really wanted to see whether mill rogue can actually hold its own in the upper bracket, since I always feel like it is less consistent than my other decks.
To me the existence and effectiveness of this deck, more than any other, simply demonstrates Blizzard's incompetence at game design, at least for cards.
20:26 That stealth BM is amazing! Pressing concede when you've won the game - priceless.
+dire wolf α And still winning!
+dire wolf α I'm just commenting to say I like your name.
+dire wolf α there was a glitch at some point where if you conceded when you already dealt lethal you'd leave the game immediately and still win, idk if trump was making a joke about that or he didnt know it was fixed
+deamonyoshi876 Judging by the smugness of that look, I'm pretty sure he knew. ;)
+dire wolf α yeah, you can see that he did the same thing in the first game, but he lost
This video reminded me how fast everyone would fall into the toilet if the net ever went down lol.........Props to the math nerd who tossed the summation out there. Nice to see the stuff's applicable to the real world ;)
how did you concede the first game while you had lethal?!
I'm not mad... I'm disapppointed...
Who needs winning anyway when u can lose kappa
+shuvo rahman Trumps doesn't need the wins ;)
I thought everyone understood what does high lvl mean Kappa
+Elo Banan we are not happy with this sensei
+Elo Banan when you're legend and have all the cards in the game you are free to troll and concede as much as you'd like in ranked
the most fun thing is drawing games when your losing. So satisfying, i can just image how the other person feels.
I was so happy seeing that thumbnail! Please more constructed and more fun decks like the pirate one or this one and not those stupid secret paladins, mid range paladins und mid range druids. I like almost everything else :)
+MeinLink
Surely midrange druid is preferable to agro druid?
+MeinLink So basically "no honorable decks". K.
+MeinLink You should play Watcher Druid. :)
I won two games vs mages who thought they could freeze my stuff. They were not playing freeze mage, but one had frost nova, and the other used the 4 mana freeze 3 things and deal one damage to them.
You do realise he will only play decks that have competitive value and not just what is considered fun.The reason he is playing this is because it started to get more competitive.
+Stefan Draghici Yeah i know and i think thats reasonable. but i enjoy this fun, non-competetive Decks and he has his F2P account.
I'm always fascinated with these sort of mill decks. It completely breaks the normal expectation that more cards = winning and if you don't realize you are playing against a mill deck early enough in the game you will just lose.
It's great only because it's outside the norm of what is expected. Every card game needs these kind of unusual deck designs.
lethal at 7:47
bran + he two coldlights :
8 fatigues:1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8= 36
I just built a mill rouge deck just a while ago. Thanks for uploading this , now I get the hang of it.
14:50
I vehemently disagree. The problem with this logic is that it can apply nearly indefinitely, which leads to a feedback loop of ignorance. The problem with being ignorant is that it taints your perception of reality, and your perception effectively _is_ your reality. Your perception has a cascading effect on everything pertaining to your life, and has massive ramifications.
All that is to simply say: you're better off with those myriad of seemingly needless tidbits of information, because *collectively* they help make you a better person. Knowing just a little bit can help galvanize you into helping something really important, such as stem cell research, for example.
You deserve a nobel peace prize for this. Seriously, we live in a society where ignorance is "cool" and people openly flaunt and justify it with the kind of flawed logic being said in the video. Anyone that has the balls to step up and metaphorically slap the dick out of people's mouth for defending that ignorance needs to be rewarded.
+Zedek did u remember to shampoo your neckbeard today
Hobo Joe
Sam Hawker
Thanks for the kind words fellas.
Pseudointellectualism at its finest.
Jacob Janice
Yeap, it sure is pseudo-intellectual to say you're better off being informed. -rolls eyes
Try harder.
I have always been really interested in mill rogue. I really hope you put out more of these.
Technically, the full fatigue damage formula is (n(n+1)/2)+xn, where x is the number of fatigue "cards" already drawn.
This thumbnail is the most cool i've ever seen in this channel!
14:50 - Not knowing what an arithmetic series is isn't a big deal... until it costs you a Hearthstone game.
Last time I came this early, I was left single.
First time I used this over-used joke, I got arrested by the humor police.
Richard Vlášek
Thanks, I'm a meme machine
+PlainSailingWeather its not a meme...
Teal
don't question the meme machine
how come we don't get to see trump construct the decks at the beginning anymore, I liked watching that part?
I'm so happy to see this, considering mill rogue is one of my main decks
Trump confirmed flat earther.
+Missed Lethal deIlluminati
+CarpeGuitarrem illiterati
+Missed Lethal that bitch on the View is a nincumpoop. Can't believe Trump sided with her.
... What are you guys talking about?
Did you watch the video?
"Who am I? I'm in trouble." is a great line
You totes beat my ass on H.S yesterday ... thank you for not making it a permanent part of the internet lol ^>^
I crafted enough dust to make a mill deck on my own last night, and Brann has been amazing!
I remember hearing a story about that triangle numbers equation. The story was, that in late 18th century germany, a teacher needed to collect a wig (for some reason), but he was in the middle of teaching class. So, to keep the class occupied while he went out, he told the class to add up all the numbers, 1 + 2 +3 + 4 etc untill they reached 1000. So the class started on their work, and as the teacher started to leave the room one child burst up "I've done it sir!" (i'm going to assume he said the german equivalent, which i do not know). The teacher was flabergasted. Nobody knows what became of that mans wig. The student turned out to be Carl Friedrich Gauss, who later became a famous mathematician.
I don't know if the story is true or not, just thought you might have found it amusing.
This is a perfect example of a deck that still needs draws, some skill and is really unique. If only more decks had this sort of unique quality.
The realisation that the person has to sit through your combo is delicious.
EDIT: Not true. Oh well.
EDIT (2): The fact that you get to watch it through even though your opp bails is at the very least tasty.
+Lethal Pigeon The loosing side can concede immediately and leave. It's you who has to sit through it.
+Omega3131 lol nope, that isn't how it works
+ppleater it is
+ppleater it changed months ago
Eh, getting to watch the beauty myself is good enough for me. You dont play this deck to win quick, you play mill to enjoy your wins.
"High Level Mill Plays" is irony for that first game, right?
I seriously bet half the people bitching in the comments wouldn't have noticed the missed lethal had trump not said anything.
Props to Trump for laughing off his misplay and taking it as an opportunity to improve his play. There's a reason this guy wins tournaments; he doesn't pretend to know everything.
Very educational video, thx Trump!
Outmathed himself))) Nice one!
I get a smug sense of satisfaction when I win aginst someone trying to mill me.
I know right!
I once played vs Mill Rogue as an Aggro paladin (not face) and he played a total of 8 healbots, and his coldlights just gave me more cheap cards :D And I won :D in fatigue
+Collaide Brann bronzebeard has made mill decks even madder 0-0
+Residentevil08 Why? It's still a really inconsistent archetype for both druid and rogue so it's not particularly difficult to do.
+Residentevil08 milldecks r more fun than this crappy secret, casino, facehunter, aggro druid sh*t.....and i enjoy to loose to this decks bcuz i can actually draw my deck and not just 4 cards and im on 0 life bcuz my opponent only hits for 30 dmg round 5.....peace.
+Residentevil08 I get a smug sense of satisfaction when I win with a mill deck against some tryhard playing a real deck.
about the formula: take fatigue damage for drawing six cards: the damage equals 1 + 2 +3+4+5+6. since 1+6 =2+5=3+4, basically it's three(6 /2) pairs of 1+6. so you can transform the expression to (1+6)* 6 / 2, hence (n+1)*n /2. six card draw fatigue will do 21 points of damage.
Mill rogue is really fun to watch
The problem with that reasoning is very simple: We live in a society developed on the principles of reason, permeated by things that require knowledge not only for development, but also for common use. Sure, you don't *need* to know how a computer works, but if you do know, you're less likely to break it.
+Gabu - San I find it disturbing that our society is becoming very reliant on technology and the products of science and mathematics, and yet as a whole we don't really care about how things work or why things work.
+nyx211 society never has, why do you think it took nearly 4 thousand years for society to decide that monarchy was a bad ruling system or that slavery was wrong?
True that
+nyx211 What good is knowledge how a fucking television works to me if I'm not working as a repairman? What good is a shitty math equasion to me if I never used it in my entire life?
+Richard Vlášek If you don't use math in your everyday life, you should move out of your mothers house.
the N(N +1)/2 formula only works if you are summing up 1 + 2 + ... + N
If you are already in fatigue then you can use Number of ticks*(first tick + last tick)/2
SUCH A FUN DECK. Please play more.
7:14 you got lethal Brann + Double coldlight !!!! Omg
If I could like this deck 100 times, I would
Doomsayer is actually pretty good, you don't have many ways to clean a board, and to gain time (really important in mill rogue : allow you to have two turns to mill, and to prevent your opponent from playing minions),
After a vanish it can also be quite good.
And in early game vs aggro deck or midrange deck, it's not that bad !
pretty sure n(n+1) / 2 will only work if there are no cards left in the deck. If there are say, 3 cards left, and 8 cards are to be drawn, then the fatigue damage should be:
n*(n*+1) / 2
where n* = number of cards to be drawn - number of cards left in deck
n* = 8 - 3 = 5
5(6) / 2 = 15 damage
I've been trying a replacement of: -1 vendor & Drake for +2 Dancing Swords, and -1 thalnos for +1 Deathlord. It's been AMAZING. (the only down side is that you don't get bonus AOE damage from thalnos. Besides that it's perfect.
that redemption backstab play wasn't a mistake. redemption says "When one of your minions dies, return it to life with 1 Health." it shouldn't be damaged, it should come back as a 1 health minion.
2020 and I wish we could still play mill decks :(
Been running a similiar deck for awhile....my big problem with it, is a lot of times I find I don't draw a coldlight until it's far too late for it to matter, if at all.
For those learning mill rogue: don't mill yourself before drawing your second gang-up. Mill rogue has a fair amount of card draw, and it's very possible to be on the same ground as your opponent without the three extra cards.
Wow that concede BM is top tier
You underestimated the powers of Brann in that first game, Trump
"I might just fan -> backstab that minibot"
In the first game, that was lethal right?
Bran + oracle + oracle = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8= 36 dmg
+ the starting draw = 45 dmg yup
missed lethal
+( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Its only 36, seeing as the pally wouldn't have lived to his next turn and drawn :P
shootEMlikeCrazy :$
I so want to play this deck but I'm sure I'll suck at it XD Also, is it viable without bloodmage?
n factorial is when you multiply out the numbers, not add them. 1+2+...+n is called a harmonic series.
It's late at night (3:22 AM) Could someone tell me the formula that he was using? I want to see if I can fathom it xD
It's just a classic arithmetic series.
+Chay Kun n x n + 1 ÷ 2
1 + 2 + ... + (n-1) + n = (n + (n+1))/2 or (2n+1)/2, it's pretty simple really :)
+John Moon Oh really? Great help there John! So you're saying there is math involved?
+Chay Kun betterexplained.com/articles/techniques-for-adding-the-numbers-1-to-100/
Mill decks, one of the top 3 decks to just plain out piss people off. It also makes the top 3 decks that require almost no thinking capacity.
If there is anyone wondering, the first matchup name means "I drink Shampoo".
I find dancing swords raptor and brann are an amazing mill combo.
You could actually win first game by making him overdraw. It would be 36 damage to him, and +9 damage by turn draw. Just saying.
+Błażej Krawczyk Ofc i didn't watch next 15 seconds of the video when Trump is saying that he noticed that. Im stupedo.
+Błażej Krawczyk But he'd propably also die from his own fatigue. I don't think he had 5 cards left in deck. So it'd be draw. "Let's pretend that didn't happen :D"
+Mateusz “Nagshell” Skórski He Had 6 cards left and would have only taken 3 damage and lived
Ah, I thought he had more like 2-3
That condece BM in the priest game
Elise starseeker will be good in mill rogue w the high draw and the potential multiple battlecry triggers and mostly having more cards w gang up so more legendaries
SUCH HIGH LEVEL MILL PLAYS CONCEDES WITHOUT EVEN GIVING THE MILL ATTEMPT A TRY
Love the maths part
This was so dirty...
I feel like I need to take a shower after this.
Just taking a break from the current toxic Fiesta that is the current meta and enjoying some of the glory days
8:00 why did you stop ? with all the damage and the one at the beginning of his turn... would not be 30 ?
misplay 7:10 take dagger +Deadly poison +Preparation+blade fury =Boardclear
Rogue Constructed yet in description says Slammin' Shaman?
after that first game I'm just thinking: why am I subscribed to this guy?
it was a draw. I end on 3 hp and my opponent ends on -6.... but yeah. it totally was a draw.
and after the rest of the video, and him saying that it's ok not to know the earth is round... what even.
Yeah it is okay. It brings nothing to your life as an average person.
+Richard Vlášek Let's just stop teaching science in schools because most people won't use it.
It's ok to be dumb if you're an average person, because "not average" people will continue to innovate, right?
AkimboBattleLolis Some people believe in God, some people believe in flat Earth. It's the same shit and the amount of pseudo-intellectuals in the comment section is driving me insane.
+Richard Vlášek Well, unless you're an explorer on the ocean. You could fear "The horizon" because since you think the earth is flat, you fear you would fall off at the edge, when in reality, you would just keep going until you hit something. You wouldn't know you 'fell off' until someone from the point you left off, wouldn't see you anymore, which you wouldn't know since if you're coming from a society that thinks the earth is flat, you probably don't have good education which means poor technology, so no cell phones most likely. Alternatively, you could just look back to where you started off from and see it's no longer there and deduce that the Earth is round since you obviously have not fallen anywhere.
Thallanar Rabidtooth You're all missing the fucking point of that entire Trump's speech. He points out that for the vast, incredible majority of people some shitty equasions are never going to be used, just as vast majority of the population is not going to use the fact that the Earth is round.
_Also stop trying to disprove someone's beliefs, are you from /r/atheism or what_
"Who cares about things nobody uses in their everyday life" He says while using a formula specifically designed to calculate the damage of a specific hearthstone card when the enemy is fatiguing
Any "good deck" to counter this deck? I have lost all games i have met one of these. I feel a relif when seeing hunter and not rouge ;/
+Claes Petersson Any aggro deck that can dump its hand and get them in range of lethal by turn 6 just toasts Mill Rogue.
Handlock, kappa
Reno freeze
+Claes Petersson I always demolish mill decks with arcane gollem warlock
+Veishan except when u draw deathlords and gang up healbots^^
So worried when he started pressing concede lol
07:50 I yelled so hard at the monitor! (after pausing and doing the math ofc) Man watching videos is such a hard life...
For everyone saying that he conceded lethal the forst game, i am just going to repeat what he himself said "Sorry for playing a deck wich is extremely difficult to me poorly for the first time" No one starts playing a deck beign pro with it, requires experience to master even the easiest of decks, now imagine one as difficult as mill rogue..
always coldlight, never coldlight
first game, he had lethal when he conceded.. bran - coldlight x 2 = 36 fatigue dmg to paladin (deck empty, first fatigue draw), trump draws 6 cards and takes 3 dmg for the double fatigue
+Monkeybone he said that just 15seconds later^^
+Banana_Billy well, he didn't actually said that, he was wondering whether or not he would've won cause chat told him he would, and later he just concluded it would've been a draw.. so.. yeah..
This is probably the only other deck I don't understand how it got its name. Where does "Mill" come from exactly?
+Mathmachine from Magic the Gathering card Millstone that started real deck destruction or "mill" decks.
Magic the gathering, had a card called millstone. When you activate it, it puts the top two cards of the opponents library into their graveyard. "Milling" them.
It comes from the origin of a rogue (milf) deck than went wrong, hence the so called "mill" Kappa
On MotG , like zoo .
What should I replace Thalnos with?
+Kevin Kim Golden Thalnos
+Kevin Kim Novice Engineer
+Multinombres1 Or loot hoarder. One of the two. I'd go novice, or a second azure drake or something like that.
+Kevin Kim belcher or drake
+Kevin Kim or doomsayer. I feel like doomsayer is a really good option here, due to the fact that it prevents any play of cards in one turn, ex: turn 8 vanish doomsayer opponent cant do anything
as a mill rogue player that 1st concede hurt
7:48 No Trump! Don't Concede!!! You can still do the math!
7:50 TRUMP, WHY!!!!
why does Vanish trigger the Deathrattle effects?
lol you conceded a win at first ... lmao
Trump you should have played those brann coldlights even if it was a guaranteed loss, just for the fireworks. We all love to see the pros make mistakes though. :)
Apparently Deathrattles trigger if the card can't be returned to the hand?
The Earth is not round. It is an oblate spheroid!
7:50 Mana Cost in total: 6 Damage: (1+2+3+4) + (5+6+7+8) = 36 10 + 26 = 36Trump could have won that... xD
awesome deck
Early days of hearthstone lul
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Trump: How many fatigue cards will you draw? Just get the Windows calculator and put in scientific mode, than put the number and n! (factorial). That's your damage. Can calculate your opponents damage as well =)
damn that first paladin fucked you up with just minibots....#feelsbadman
+DmRushed He actually won that game if he didn't concede and played his bran+coldlights
I hope blizzard wont nerf the mill rogue is so fun but I worry that they do it like with the patron warrior and they will say that its not the style of the game
+MisterCoolman29 Patron mostly got the axe since it was so high profile, gang up rogue represents such a small portion of the meta that it's unlikely to get a similar treatment any time soon. For further evidence there are still a lot of combo decks still in the game even though the stated reason for killing patron was that combo wincons weren't kosher, stuff with Malygos, Majordomo, Antonodias and the like.
+MisterCoolman29 I hope they do nerf it, since milling is such a shitty move. But don't worry, Blizzard takes months to nerf anything.
Muh Gunz
Why is it shitty? Multiple strategies are good for the health of a CCG and this isn't even the most difficult alternate wincon to fight against with a "fair" deck.
+Muh Gunz I dont think that its too op you can beat a mill deck with a good deck
It's just an unfair playstyle that the game wasn't really designed for. It punishes players for playing the game correctly. And quite frankly, it's a frustrating play style for your opponent. People don't want to play against someone doing this bullshit. They want to have a fair and fun game. There is more interaction in face hunter than in this shit.
anyone using jeweled scarabs in their mill rogue?
fan of knives, deathlord, brann, and coldlights themselves are all things you can get from it, so it can really help with those games where you end up with both your coldlights as your last two cards.
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m8, i am brazilian and the name of the first guy, translated, is "I Drink Shampoo"
That last round... why did he try to quit? He was not losing.
+Seanenanigans An old bug used to let either player "concede" out immediately from the game after lethal was dealt to either person. Now it only allows the person who lethal was dealt to (so if you bm, you have to watch the entire sequence).
Would Reno be too slow for this deck? Of course, you'd play it when you've run out of cards, and seeing how fast you draw cards, it happens often.
You would never play reno in this deck
+Mugsi Reno doesn't work for this deck, because the object is to Gang Up as many Coldlights as you can...which makes Reno useless.
If you conceded the first game you have missed the point of mill rogue entirely. That is literally one of the most clear cut win conditions that a mill rogue can get.
What would i sub Bloodmage Thalnos for in this deck?
high level is apparently 15 lol
15 is higher then 1-5
kappa
+ak5250 Idiot "High Level" is a reference to skill not account level
+david walker 15 is pretty low
+Keeedem 25 is the highest level
oh well
Since when is rank 15 high level? I know Trump's a good player, but I really wanted to see whether mill rogue can actually hold its own in the upper bracket, since I always feel like it is less consistent than my other decks.
LOOOL THAT MISSLETHAL!!!
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Mill Rogue is so much fun. But frustrating to play against.
Am i crazy or did hehave 36 damage on hand with bronzebeard and then dubble coldlightoracle? I thought it would be 36 damage.
To me the existence and effectiveness of this deck, more than any other, simply demonstrates Blizzard's incompetence at game design, at least for cards.