That Ben Simmons segment got progressively more hilarious as it went on. "And you can bet Philadelphia has this kid in the gym shooting the basketball around the clock" is just incredible
I recommend watching so we can get Kenny's watch hrs up but here's the list if you want to save time 1. Giannis Antetokounmpo 2. Ben Simmons 3. Jayson Tatum 4. Donovan Mitchell 5. Luka Doncic 6. Joel Embiid 7. Anthony Davis 8. Devin Booker 9. Kristaps Porzingis 10. Lonzo Ball 11. Nikola Jokic 12. Karl-Anthony Towns 13. DeAndre Ayton 14. Michael Porter Jr. 15. Kyle Kuzma 16. Bradley Beal 17. Trae Young 18. Jaylen Brown 19. Steven Adams 20. Aaron Gordon
If you exclude players drafted after 2018, and players that are now 34 and over (historically there’s a drop off there but evidently guys like curry and KD are hooping) then this list is p decent
i don’t know how much credit to give though considering they also put ayton and mpj in from the same draft class - feels more like they were riding the hype wave (though people were so down on trae that I do think that was a pretty bold take)
Pleaseeee do your own predictions for five years from now with the TTW guys. Maybe in the off season. Would be so fun to watch back. It’s crazy how unpredictable the NBA really is
If you look back on it, it’s crazy how Ben Simmons went from having the highest potential, highest ceiling out of any young star in the league 5 years ago to now being one of the biggest bums in the league 😂, crazy how fast and sudden his falloff was.
@@elijahwood6299 I mean he can playmake and defend the perimeter at en elite level which most bigs can’t. He’s like a bigger and more athletic Draymond.
I think people underestimate the longevity of certain stars. Take Bron, KD, Curry, Lillard, Butler, kyrie, harden, butler, PG13, Kawhi, etc.: these guys were all stars around the time this was written and are still mostly top 20 guys. It’s not easy to take over those already at the top!
Steph’s game is reliant on stamina/agility, and KD’s injury history looks like a phone book. It wouldnt have been a mystery if theyd fallen off by 34 years of age.
@@amman3k971 I could understand lebron a little more since he relies a lot of his athleticism. Idk if most people expected him to basically not decline athletically at age 38😂
Having Jokic at 11 is a great call by them. Based on everything we know about basketball, that SHOULD be his absolute ceiling. But the man has just defied the laws of logic, nature, physics, athleticism, thermodynamics, whatever laws you can think of, to become the best player in the NBA. At least in my opinion. I can see arguments for Giannis too. Maybe Doncic. But Jokic is the truth.
I was so high on Aaron Gordon this year as well. He'd improved consistently every year and looked like after that year he'd finally take the major jump with his shooting and athleticism coming together, but he's stayed about the same.
He is having his best season yet this year. He never reached that star player, but is a high quality role-player talent and even had some all-star buzz this season which is something a lot of guys never reach.
Honestly, as a Nuggets fan, I always loved AG at Orlando, so I was over the moon when he came over. Seriously think he's slept on this season. Been so solid.
I feel like lists like this always overestimate how much turnover there is going to be in the best players in the world. Obviously it wouldnt be too fun to just list everyone who was good then, but Durant, Steph, Lebron, Harden, Dame, Butler, and PG were all-nba that year, it's weird to assume they would all fall off
Even last season, us Kings fans were saying that we should trade Harrison Barnes for Ben Simmons for the star power. Apparently the Nets wanted a lot more for Ben than we were willing to give up. Fast forward one year and they're looking to salary dump his contract. Oh how the turns table! Btw, that game you were watching was INSANE. Loved seeing Kyrie vs De-Aaron in the 4th and OT. I don't know if my heart could take a Kings-Mavs 7 game series
You should do a rebuilding challenge where if you trade for somebody, you're not allowed to trade them away. Ever trade is important because you can't flip anybody, you can only lose them for nothing if they weren't a part of the original roster
they really underestimated all the vets we have that still play at a top 20 level such as dame, kyrie, harden, pg, jimmy, kd, steph, bron and maybe kawhi? this era of basketball we’ve had is really special
With the way LeBron was going during the 2018 season, its crazy to predict that he'd be out of the top 20, even more so being retired. Everybody knew he was gonna play well into his 40s
Hey Kenny, I've been a supporter for awhile now and have thought of a ton of video ideas, but for some reason never build up the courage to comment them. This video gave me an idea for another possible fun vid. I think you should make your own list of 10-20 players you think will be the top players in the league in 5 years or so. Let me know what you think, and thank you so much for putting out great content almost everyday in at least one of your channels to keep us all entertained throughout the day. I'm always excited for your new uploads and I know so many others are as well. I hope you realize the impact you have on your supporters. Have a great one Kenny. -Jack
Aaron Gordon is averaging 17/7/3 on a ridiculous 63.3% eFG. He has the 33rd best PER and the 32nd best BPM this year on the #1 team in the west. He's definitely a top 40 player, maybe a top 30 this year.
lol i can understand leaving out bron because who coulda predicted he'd still be elite but i feel like everyone knew in 2018 that steph and kd would still be balling in 2023
The list looked like it was like the best of the under-25 players in the league today in five years. LeBron, KD, Steph, Kyrie etc. Are all missing. But in all honesty the league is so talented right now that you could take any roster in the league and there is at least one player on it who you could argue belongs on this list... The depth of the entire league is so crazy... Literally half the teams think they got a shot at the title and there are no clear cut favorites to win it all.
Embiid is better than jokic, only thing jokic is better than embiid is playmaking, but a center dont rlly need that. As a mavs fan embiid was def robbed of mvp last year
I refuse to believe that in 2018 this man thought that in 5 years Kyle Kuzma, Steven Adams and Aaron Gordon would be better than guys like Bron, Steph, KD, Harden and Kawhi. To not even have them on the list is crazy as hell 😂😂😂.
@Matheus Duarte they're averaging similar numbers but AG get more assist and would add a lot more entertainment than jjj with his dunks and passing.. if you don't agree you definitely don't watch nuggets games
@Gold GotGame No JJJ is a better rim protector and AG is a better perimeter defender.. they literally have him guard dame curry and others...so chill out with that 10x better defender
Lowkey except for curry there is nothing the ringer hates more than black, ball dominant guards. Most of them called jimmy a team cancer around this time too
Steven adams has been my favorite player years. Nice to see others giving him some recognition. The problem with Steven is he is so selfless on the court. He could definitely have better stats, but he plays for the team, not himself.
I thought kenny was a industry plant like how is he everywhere now I see Bruh got bout 27 channels excluding the pod 👏🏾👏🏾 real motivation ngl consistency is scary
Honestly, Ben Simmons WOULD be a top 10 player if he wasn’t such a headcase. I don’t think he is incapable of shooting the ball. I just think his knees turn to hello every time he’s open because he has zero confidence.
A lot of it is hindsight 20/20. There is a difference between a player with legit potential not panning out the way as expected (like with Simmons) or just being plain simply wrong with a dumb prediction, even at the time.
Yeah I know hindsight is 20/20 but this list still feels pretty bad. Just a lot of dart throws like Aaron gordon and Kyle kuzma and he was allergic to putting top players at the time like Curry Lebron and Durant on the list
Great Luka prediction but how can any serious human believe that KD or Steph wouldn't be in TOP 20 because of Steven Adams and Aaron Gordon ? This is unserious bro . I get it's an age thing but this decade we saw many superstars play at an all time level even post 33-34 .
Trying to predict the best in 5 years is impossible considering you have to consider players who weren't drafted until 2020 or 2021. Zion Williamson is in the top 20 and they didn't include him.
Had some good hits but some crazy misses. I understand the Lebron part. I mean how many 38 years old had been a top 20 player? But to leave out steph and KD is blasphemy.
That Ben Simmons segment got progressively more hilarious as it went on. "And you can bet Philadelphia has this kid in the gym shooting the basketball around the clock" is just incredible
Ben Simmons' mind is really messed up right now. Get that boy some psychologist.
@@mikeyang3684 I think he’s got one
and yet still one of the most impactful players lmao dont let social media fool you
@@jesseshell4222 are u talking previous seasons ben or current ben
@@jesseshell4222 dude not this season man legitimately just turns around and looks to pass when it’s a one on one fast break
I watched the tip dunk too!!!🎉🎉
Giannis looking crazy in that thumbnail I'm ngl
I recommend watching so we can get Kenny's watch hrs up but here's the list if you want to save time
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. Ben Simmons
3. Jayson Tatum
4. Donovan Mitchell
5. Luka Doncic
6. Joel Embiid
7. Anthony Davis
8. Devin Booker
9. Kristaps Porzingis
10. Lonzo Ball
11. Nikola Jokic
12. Karl-Anthony Towns
13. DeAndre Ayton
14. Michael Porter Jr.
15. Kyle Kuzma
16. Bradley Beal
17. Trae Young
18. Jaylen Brown
19. Steven Adams
20. Aaron Gordon
If you exclude players drafted after 2018, and players that are now 34 and over (historically there’s a drop off there but evidently guys like curry and KD are hooping) then this list is p decent
Although predicting that harden wouldn’t be a top 20 player 5 years after his MVP season is a bit wild imo
Dudes really thought guys like Bron, KD, and Steph would just disappear.
Surprised to not see Zion
no dame kd curry or lebron is crazy
Please make one
This article missed a lot but it’s still hella impressive to predict Trae and Luka so be this high on the list even before their rookie seasons
Facts they missed Shai tho😂 tbf he wasn’t expected to be that good
i don’t know how much credit to give though considering they also put ayton and mpj in from the same draft class - feels more like they were riding the hype wave (though people were so down on trae that I do think that was a pretty bold take)
They predicted way too many young guys and not the already proven stars
@@SpicyMapping i mean clearly not too many people since he still went top 5
i meant the public not people in the league
Pleaseeee do your own predictions for five years from now with the TTW guys. Maybe in the off season. Would be so fun to watch back. It’s crazy how unpredictable the NBA really is
You got Instagram?
@@howIegendsaremade the rizzler
Yes please
@@xxqoa what can I say🤷♂️🤷♂️
@Dawg they use it as a distraction just like the Superbowl but NBA basketball goes too hard not to keep after the downfall
Shoutout to the Wizards for having three Top 20 guys on their roster right now!
The Wizards GM read this article for sure
🤣😂🤣😂
nuggets have 3 too
If you look back on it, it’s crazy how Ben Simmons went from having the highest potential, highest ceiling out of any young star in the league 5 years ago to now being one of the biggest bums in the league 😂, crazy how fast and sudden his falloff was.
Facts nothing more than a big with handles
@@elijahwood6299
I mean he can playmake and defend the perimeter at en elite level which most bigs can’t. He’s like a bigger and more athletic Draymond.
I call myself the Ben Simmons of trumpet
terrible work ethic. what a waste of size
They hated on Giannis for Ben especially Stephen A
Lebron, Curry, and Durant being left off is criminal
Nk harden either or kyrie. Do you consider them too 20? I’d say so
@@nathanjohnson6525 Dame as well
I’m pretty sure this list was for players like under 25 or something cause there’s nobody on the whole list that was already a all time Great
@@rewstir6646 No... it's because normally people dont expect players to still be top 20 when they're 34+ years old
@@freshc9240 idk I feel like most people would probably expect the best shooter of all time or a 7 foot demigod to be pretty good when they’re 34
Who else is waiting for the Brooklyn Nets series?
Facts
Everyone
he started it the other day
Me 😂
Came to comment this
I think people underestimate the longevity of certain stars. Take Bron, KD, Curry, Lillard, Butler, kyrie, harden, butler, PG13, Kawhi, etc.: these guys were all stars around the time this was written and are still mostly top 20 guys. It’s not easy to take over those already at the top!
I know it’s hard to make lists like this but not having Steph or Kd in the top 20 is egregious. Even if it was 5 years in the future.
Even Lebron man, people overvalue ‘potential’ too much
@@amman3k971 idk if leaving LeBron out was really that egregious given what most players his age are like.
Steph’s game is reliant on stamina/agility, and KD’s injury history looks like a phone book. It wouldnt have been a mystery if theyd fallen off by 34 years of age.
@@amman3k971 everyone else in his draft class has been retired for half a decade 💀 wym
@@amman3k971 I could understand lebron a little more since he relies a lot of his athleticism. Idk if most people expected him to basically not decline athletically at age 38😂
Gotta remember, I’m 2018, the idea of someone being 34+ years old and still being a top 20 player was crazy. Now, it’s common place
*top 10
Having Jokic at 11 is a great call by them. Based on everything we know about basketball, that SHOULD be his absolute ceiling. But the man has just defied the laws of logic, nature, physics, athleticism, thermodynamics, whatever laws you can think of, to become the best player in the NBA. At least in my opinion. I can see arguments for Giannis too. Maybe Doncic. But Jokic is the truth.
I mean Ben still got time….. 😂
I mean China has a few basketball teams to choose from
I was so high on Aaron Gordon this year as well. He'd improved consistently every year and looked like after that year he'd finally take the major jump with his shooting and athleticism coming together, but he's stayed about the same.
He's been mid all his career, sucks because his physical capabilities can easily put him to star level
He is having his best season yet this year. He never reached that star player, but is a high quality role-player talent and even had some all-star buzz this season which is something a lot of guys never reach.
Honestly, as a Nuggets fan, I always loved AG at Orlando, so I was over the moon when he came over. Seriously think he's slept on this season. Been so solid.
AG been a monster this season. A super important piece of the nuggets game.
Crazy that he predicted Jaylen Brown would be top 20 when he was only averaging 14 a game with Boston.
nah everyone back then knew Brown and Tatum were the future, i was for sure expecting a Boston dynasty
FINALLY someone acknowledging that the Grizz slid coincides with Adams being hurt. Thank you!!!
According to this dude, Steven Adams was going to be averaging 18, 13, and 1.5-2 blocks a game in 2023 😂😂
Lol rebs and blocks were possible but pts are way off
I feel like lists like this always overestimate how much turnover there is going to be in the best players in the world. Obviously it wouldnt be too fun to just list everyone who was good then, but Durant, Steph, Lebron, Harden, Dame, Butler, and PG were all-nba that year, it's weird to assume they would all fall off
Butler and pg arent top 20 This year
@@tyyyy5733 I guess not but PG is still an all star and there’s not 20 guys I’d rather have in the playoffs than Jimmy
Even last season, us Kings fans were saying that we should trade Harrison Barnes for Ben Simmons for the star power. Apparently the Nets wanted a lot more for Ben than we were willing to give up. Fast forward one year and they're looking to salary dump his contract. Oh how the turns table!
Btw, that game you were watching was INSANE. Loved seeing Kyrie vs De-Aaron in the 4th and OT. I don't know if my heart could take a Kings-Mavs 7 game series
You should do a rebuilding challenge where if you trade for somebody, you're not allowed to trade them away. Ever trade is important because you can't flip anybody, you can only lose them for nothing if they weren't a part of the original roster
Wrong channel buddy
@@bingoelue12 Not really. Still a chance the right man sees it
they really underestimated all the vets we have that still play at a top 20 level such as dame, kyrie, harden, pg, jimmy, kd, steph, bron and maybe kawhi? this era of basketball we’ve had is really special
Nothing like watching a Kenny vid as soon as you wake up.
Damn at 1 o clock
on a monday
With the way LeBron was going during the 2018 season, its crazy to predict that he'd be out of the top 20, even more so being retired. Everybody knew he was gonna play well into his 40s
nah nobody thought he was just not going to have any athleticism dropoff at all 5 years later
Hey Kenny, I've been a supporter for awhile now and have thought of a ton of video ideas, but for some reason never build up the courage to comment them. This video gave me an idea for another possible fun vid. I think you should make your own list of 10-20 players you think will be the top players in the league in 5 years or so. Let me know what you think, and thank you so much for putting out great content almost everyday in at least one of your channels to keep us all entertained throughout the day. I'm always excited for your new uploads and I know so many others are as well. I hope you realize the impact you have on your supporters. Have a great one Kenny. -Jack
Your turn to predict
You gotta make a top 20 5 years from now so we can see how many W's you would have
after the nba season is over Through The Wire needs to do a top 25 prediction for the next 5 years
Aaron Gordon is averaging 17/7/3 on a ridiculous 63.3% eFG. He has the 33rd best PER and the 32nd best BPM this year on the #1 team in the west.
He's definitely a top 40 player, maybe a top 30 this year.
Dude I swear this list just expected every player over 28 to suddenly be terrible😂
As a Wizards fan I wish this list would have been accurate we’d be loaded 😂
Jokic if forsure the best center in the league
Adams had he been utilized by Billy Donovan more he would’ve been the top center of the class below Joel and Jokic
lol i can understand leaving out bron because who coulda predicted he'd still be elite but i feel like everyone knew in 2018 that steph and kd would still be balling in 2023
Kenny is the Michael Jordan of RUclips
The list looked like it was like the best of the under-25 players in the league today in five years. LeBron, KD, Steph, Kyrie etc. Are all missing. But in all honesty the league is so talented right now that you could take any roster in the league and there is at least one player on it who you could argue belongs on this list... The depth of the entire league is so crazy... Literally half the teams think they got a shot at the title and there are no clear cut favorites to win it all.
There’s almost no one on this list that is in their 30s now and that’s where he went wrong
No Steph, no LeBron, no KD, no kawhi, no pg, no kyrie, all top 20 players. I know it was 5 years ago but damn this list was a huge L
Embiid is better than jokic, only thing jokic is better than embiid is playmaking, but a center dont rlly need that. As a mavs fan embiid was def robbed of mvp last year
This could be a cool KOT4Q vid. Adjust 2k overalls so these are actually the top 20 players
Bro completely forgot about Steph, kd, Kyre and my boy Dame
I had Simmons and embied winning a chip back then how wrong I was 😅
I refuse to believe that in 2018 this man thought that in 5 years Kyle Kuzma, Steven Adams and Aaron Gordon would be better than guys like Bron, Steph, KD, Harden and Kawhi. To not even have them on the list is crazy as hell 😂😂😂.
the writer took like 7 straight Ws
Imagine putting Aaron Gordon over a 30 year old Kyrie Irving
1-10 was alot better than 11-20 that upper end of the top 10 was kinda accurate for 5 ish years
aaron gordon over lebron is fair
Honestly the biggest problem with this article is that almost all theses guys are 28 or younger when an NBA players prime usually 26-32 (roughly).
Aaron Gordon should've made the allstar team over JJJ just saying
terrible take
@Matheus Duarte they're averaging similar numbers but AG get more assist and would add a lot more entertainment than jjj with his dunks and passing.. if you don't agree you definitely don't watch nuggets games
@@MrGizzy84😂😂😂 let’s be real, JJJ is 10x better at defensive and a much better all round player
@Gold GotGame No JJJ is a better rim protector and AG is a better perimeter defender.. they literally have him guard dame curry and others...so chill out with that 10x better defender
Karl Anthony towns should be a top 12 player but for some reason he just doesn't have that dog in him.
I still think he's underrated though
why was every player a younger player? did they really think older stars in 2018 like steph, kd, russ, harden etc would really fall off that quick?
That’s what I was saying, they accounted for no one that’d be in their 30s
Seriously though. This dude thought curry was going to forget how to shoot in five years?
They hated on Giannis for Ben especially Stephen A
They explained Lebron, but where is Steph, KD, Kawhi, Dame, Harden, Kyrie, Jimmy, PG13?
Lowkey except for curry there is nothing the ringer hates more than black, ball dominant guards. Most of them called jimmy a team cancer around this time too
Steven adams has been my favorite player years. Nice to see others giving him some recognition. The problem with Steven is he is so selfless on the court. He could definitely have better stats, but he plays for the team, not himself.
10:19 "this was written in 2008" Kenny's good for one of those Kerfuffle's per video.
kenny you the 🐐
I thought kenny was a industry plant like how is he everywhere now I see Bruh got bout 27 channels excluding the pod 👏🏾👏🏾 real motivation ngl consistency is scary
Lebron Isn't top 20... lehater 😂
I love the reaction to the Ben Simmons part. When Kenny said he would do one of these, I thought he was going to make his own top 20 list for 2028.
KennyToo vids hit diff
U haven’t even watched for 2 mins
@@mikeydunn3519 dont tell me what I've done lil bro
Bros a time traveler
Honestly, Ben Simmons WOULD be a top 10 player if he wasn’t such a headcase. I don’t think he is incapable of shooting the ball. I just think his knees turn to hello every time he’s open because he has zero confidence.
Bron, Curry, KD, Kai, Kawhi being off is crazy
When is gonna be next episode of Brooklyn Nets. But you The Goat
Those predictions were pretty good for the most part. Bold to put Jokic, luka, and Trae do high
I’m fried asf cracking up at the Ben Simmons part😂😂😂This man Kenny is hilarious
A lot of it is hindsight 20/20. There is a difference between a player with legit potential not panning out the way as expected (like with Simmons) or just being plain simply wrong with a dumb prediction, even at the time.
When Kenny does one of these I am curious on how high he will put Wembemyama
Just imagine if this was true. The wizards would have 3 top 20 players in beal, kuz, and kp. Instead we’re still stuck in mediocrity.
Yeah I know hindsight is 20/20 but this list still feels pretty bad. Just a lot of dart throws like Aaron gordon and Kyle kuzma and he was allergic to putting top players at the time like Curry Lebron and Durant on the list
Top players in the NBA in 2028 predictions:
1. 2k's version of Luka Doncic
2. Victor Wembanyama
3. 43-year-old Lebron James still hooping
Naaaaah it's hard to predict the future, but this guy just did it terrible... Aaron Gordon 😂Steven Adams 🤣🤣🤣 KUZMA 😂 Lonzo 😂
Great Luka prediction but how can any serious human believe that KD or Steph wouldn't be in TOP 20 because of Steven Adams and Aaron Gordon ? This is unserious bro . I get it's an age thing but this decade we saw many superstars play at an all time level even post 33-34 .
Wow. Lot of good picks from this article but the "common wisdom about simmons, LeBron, KD, Curry, was way off. Don't doubt generational talent
Trying to predict the best in 5 years is impossible considering you have to consider players who weren't drafted until 2020 or 2021. Zion Williamson is in the top 20 and they didn't include him.
They could have went safe and put KD, Lebron, Steph and kyrie in but have to give props for going for some actual predictions
Had some good hits but some crazy misses. I understand the Lebron part. I mean how many 38 years old had been a top 20 player? But to leave out steph and KD is blasphemy.
5 years Id say players in the top 10 are wemby, scoot, banchero, giannis, luka, tatum, haliburton, thomas
Everyone making fun of the Ben Simmons take but I honestly thought not having any of KD, Curry or LeBron in the top 20 was worse.
Just to think that Ben Simmons player comparison coming out of the draft was LeBron James. It's crazy how much things can change in five years
Ben could've been so special smhhhh. I think the back injury messed him up and mentally something went wrong. But idk he also didn't work on his game.
Kenny reading the Ben Simmons description had me crying 😭😭 we all thought that too about Ben that’s the craziest part
Bruh why would I listen to someone about succeeding from a person who hasn’t done it them selves. You have less than 100 subscribers
Aaron Gordon top-45? How about top-100? He doesn’t touch top-45, and I like AG
Gordon top 40 is a blasphemous take. Dude is for sure top 30 and imo (I’m a nuggets fan) he was first out for the all start bid this year
In 5 years most of the top 20 players form that list will probably still be top 20 players. Like Giannis would be only 32
luv u kenny 💟
"He can do anything on the court other than shoot the basketball" And I'm a top 2 Chef in the world! I can do anything in the kitchen other than cook!
Embiid dominates Jokic in their head-to-head matchups lol. Jokic too overrated 😂
It’s shocking that harden doesn’t even get mentioned despite being the MVP of the league when this came out
The Ringer sucks. The had Anthony Edwards ceiling as Dion Waiters.
Steven Adams for Memphis in regular season is more valuable then Ja Morrant by what I have seen.
u should go back to old 2k rebuild videos to see how did the game predict the 2023 year or just hop in old games and simulate
“Please bro just let him work on his jumper in the off-season please bro he’ll be like lebron cmon bro he’s up next bro”
5 years from now!!
20. Kuminga
19. Jabari
18. SGA
17. Mobley
16. Mitchell
15. Chet
14. Garland
13. Barnes
12. Booker
11. Paolo
10. Trae
9. Scoot
8. Ant
7. Giannis
6. Zion
5. Joker
4. Ja
3. Tatum
2. Wemby
1. Doncic