1952 Firestone (Scott Atwater) 5hp Outboard Motor
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Purchased at Tomahawk AOMCI meet in 2017 on Saturday for $10. Cleaned carburetor, replaced water pump impeller, and gear oil. Have not done ignition tune up yet. Running pretty well but still some room for improvement. Could use more cleaning up too, but overall a decent little motor.
Love it. I have a similar motor. Love from Australia
Thank you! This is a pretty decent Scott-Atwater built Firestone. They run pretty strong. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much. I do enjoy watching the motors you have. It just seem when we went to grandpa’s house in Hayward Wi that it brings memories of struggling with the motors and the time my brother pull started a motor while I was facing him and got socked I. The face. I’m 66. Thanks again and as I said I do enjoy watching a running motor. Thanks !
It is always nice to get the positive feedback that someone is enjoying the content on my channel. Yes, some of these old motors are more difficult to start than others and they do typically require more maintenance then the more modern motors. The points ignition is much more affected by the elements since it is all mechanical and exposed to open atmosphere. They require periodic cleaning and adjustment where electronic ignition is solid state and sealed. They still fail, but as long as they are working there is no adjustment or cleaning required to have optimal ignition. Many new motors are fuel injected too, which eliminates many of the issues that go along with the elemental issues of carburetors. If they are kept in good tune, though, most of them start and run beautifully. Maintenance has become something that a great number of people just don't expect to have to do these days. By the mid 1980s it seems like the operator-performed maintenance was being designed out of everything. After a couple of decades, all but the most basic maintenance had been made either unnecessary or almost impossible for the operator to perform. In some ways that's good. I like that my car will just start and run when I get in and go. It has a tune up interval of 100k+ miles instead of 15k. On the other hand, Joe Average can no longer even perform the work to make his car run its best anymore. More often than not a diagnostic computer is needed to even find out what is wrong with it and it takes a host of special tools and vehicle specific manuals to donthe work once it is diagnosed. I like these old outboards because I cane see and feel everything work. If something goes wrong, it is nearly always something I can fix myself and many times with very minimal tools. If someone is not into doing their own work and maintenance, none of that matters and the edge clearly goes to modern technology. Thanks again for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 you have it running so nicely. I’m hoping mine will be running that nicely today! Gonna go thru the carbs today.
Sounds pretty good! Sweet little motor! You couldn't beat the price! Thanks for sharing!
It is a decent running motor. It seems like i should be able to improve it some, but it isn't too bad. Its got quite good power for 5hp. Yes, the price was good and its a nice addition to my collection. I don't have a lot of Scotts and it is my only Firestone. Thanks for watching!
Firestone??? Wow! I seen a Oliver outboard as in Oliver tractors at sport and travel show this past year, I never knew they made a outboard.
This Firestone was built by Scott-Atwater and sold in Firestone tire stores and service centers. Oliver bought out Chris-Craft's outboard division when Keikheafer Mercury sued them for patent infringement. Oliver changed them a little here and there and built outboards for a few years under their name before dropping production of outboard motors. They are very good motors, but parts are getting hard to find. Thanks for watching!
The older out boards are so well built built with pride
Yes, it is quite remarkable how long something will last when it is well built and a simple design. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 I found a 1937 Johnson and cleaned the points and got spark . Not to mention how well the ignition systems were made !!!!
@@Rlip The old Johnsons are very durable and reliable. The ignition they used is nearly bulletproof. If they have compression and a decent carburetor, they'll almost always run. Thanks for watching!
That is a sweet out board
I found one at an Estate sale today for 25 hope I can get it running!
Congrats on your new motor! When you take the carburetor apart for cleaning, remove the high speed needle completely before removing the float bowl. It is easily damaged if you try to take the bowl off first. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks for the info, this is a cool video!
May I ask where you got a replacement impeller?
Beautiful motor! I would love to find one some day here in the Netherlands.
VintageOutboardMan Thank you and thanks for watching!
I can send you mine if you want to pay the Extra for shipping. In Saskatchewan Canada at the moment. Chris Oudshoorn
Very impressive ! I love seeing those motors. Makes me appreciate the newer motors of today . I like the boat too. Alumacraft. We have three of that model. Maybe you cou talk about your boat sometime. I believe it’s rated for a 35 horse. Which is insane.
Thank you. I like these old motors. Most of these I would prefer over a modern motor of today. I do love this boat. Yes, it is an Alumacraft FD. This one is a 1971 and the Alumacraft literature for a year range including 1971 shows the FD rated for 40hp. I have run everything from 0.75hp to 40hp on this boat. I ran it all summer with a 1963 Evinrude 40hp Big Twin on it. It is a wonderful little rig. I could do a video on this boat sometime. Maybe in the spring when I get it back out I will do that. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Like you I feel the same, I collect old gas engines, but was always interested in outboards. I do know when I finally get my Alumacraft FD out, I will run Dad's 18hp Johnson thanks to your channel!
@@dansengines2594 I have always enjoyed gas engines of all kinds. I have an old Maytag single. I have always wanted a hit and miss, but have not yet gotten one. Someway I will. 👍
Well, it is what it is I guess....Sounds pretty smooth in spite of the high speed surge. I was happy to see it did not blow the doors of CD series OMCs of the day....
kramden Thanks Don. Yeah, it's not bad, it's just not as good as it could be. It is not as strong as the OMCs of the day in the same HP class. My Scott built Hiawatha will pull away from most of my 5.5 OMCs though. I still prefer the way the OMCs run. Thanks for watching!
I had one.There's no way I hope not you started that right off and took off without warming it up!
No, I did not take off and run wife open on a cold engine. It was already warm. Thanks for watching!
I really like this one such cool graphics
Mike Stefano Yes, I like the Firestone graphics on this era of their motors too. The port side decal on this motor is in a lot worse shape than the starboard one, but at least it is mostly still there.
Bought a 14 ft boat from my father that came with a 1950 atwater 5hp and a suzuki 9.9. $500. Trying to get the Atwater to run currently
Congratulations on your new boat and motors. The Scott is a nice powerful motor for a 5hp. If the coil is good it will probably run. When you disassemble the carburetor for a cleaning and rebuild, be sure to remove the high speed needle before removing the float bowl. Otherwise the end of the needle will get bent and the seat damaged. This is typical of these Tillotson carburetors. You will likely have to make a new bowl gasket yourself so try to preserve as much as possible of the original to use as a pattern for the new one. Not necessary, but does make it easier. Thanks for watching!
Ha-Ha! I saw you instinctively reach for the tiller at 1:12 when it first started! ☺☺☺
Yup, I sure did. 😜 Thanks for watching, Mums!
Nothing runs like a Firestone
Whatever you drive, drive a Firestone!😎
runs very nice great buy
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Was searching for info on what I believe is a 5 hp Firestone and found this video. The one I have has a bad gas tank someone cut the top out of and also has bad water pump impeller. Would love to find someone who could use it for parts or someone who had an impeller and fuel tank to get it working again.
The 5hp Scott Atwater of the same vintage will fit and could be painted and decals applied if you were planning to do a cosmetic restoration on it. The Firestones are around, but not quite as common. As for the water pump impeller, there is a AOMCI club member that will recast a new impeller on your old hub for a decent price considering they are NLA. There may be a commercially available impeller that could be modified to fit as well. I'm bot sure which one it would be, but it may be worth asking the question on the Ask A Member forum on AOMCI.ORG. Very helpful bunch over there. I have been a dues paying club member for several years and plan to keep it up. It is a great club. The Ask A Member forum is free and open to the public so all you need to do is register on the site. Thanks for watching!
I used to have a '55 like this. Eventually it got stuck in reverse and i rowed home. wouldn't stay down, rose up out of the water.
These Scotts still had the sliding collar reverse lock in 1955, I believe. I wonder how it got stuck in reverse? Something muat have been missing or bent / jammed if it had the sliding collar and wanted to climb up in reverse. These are pretty strong 5hp motors. Thanks for watching!
If you’re not careful on that pond your draft could exceed your depth very quickly!
She runs good Ben, nice motor for ten bucks...
Ed Hein Thanks Ed! With the impeller I have 35 bucks into it now. For that money I'm really happy with it. It may improve a bit more if I go through the magneto too. It seems to have strong spark, but I have done nothing with the ignition yet.
I think what you're saying there about draft exceeding depth is...
"Keep your prop outta the mud!"😉
Thanks for watching!
Is this available for purchase?
This motor is not currently for sale but may be in the future. Thanks for watching!
Old JohnnyRude how will I know if you will sell it in the future?
@@holyfaceministry9811 If I decide to sell this motor I will review the comments in this video to see if anyone asked about it. When I do I will see your inquiry. I am in SE Michigan and I do not ship. I'm not sure where you are located, but that may be a factor as well.
Old JohnnyRude my husband is very interested. We live in New York and would make the trip to pick it up. Thank you!
@@holyfaceministry9811 I will be sure to let you know if I decide to let it go.
10$ ! Unreal
joe smith Yessir! A deal for sure! There are some bargains to be had, even occasional freebies. Thanks for watching!
Dang that thing is sweet. How the heck did you find parts for it? 😂
Thank you! It was built by Scott Atwater and there are lots of Scotts around. I had a new impeller cast by a club member that makes them. I cut new gaskets for the carburetor and everything else was intact. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Sweet! No problem. Still got that evinrude zephyr? Just saw your video on it. Super cool motor
@@peterb7268 Yessir! That one's keeper. I rarely run it, but its a good runner and in fantastic condition. That one deserves to stay for sure. I did get shorter plugs in it and the arcing out to the covers is gone. Really nice runner now. Thanks again!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Great! Those are awesome. Glad to hear it's running better. I really want to get my hands on one some day for my Jon boat. They seem a little tricky to work on though
@@peterb7268 They are unnecessarily complicated, but they are a very cool part of Evinrude and outboard history. They are very smooth runners but yes, a bit tricky to work on. The spark plug wires run right by and underneath the carburetor too, which is a nice feature to make fires more likely. I like mine, but it would not be my choice for my main power on a boat. Mine is reserved for the novelty and an occasional run.