A Brief Look at Black Widow and Winter Soldier's Costumes in Marvel's Avengers
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Taking a look at the cosmetic skins of the least interesting duo in the now defunct Avengers video game.
0:00 Intro
1:51 Rare Suits (Black Widow)
4:19 Epic Suits
9:45 Legendary Suits
14:46 Exotic Suits
18:55 Conclusion and Suit Suggestions
20:21 Intro (Winter Soldier)
21:24 MCU Suit
23:46 Rare Suits
27:10 Epic Suits
31:43 Legendary Suits
35:01 Conclusions and Suit Suggestions
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I completely mispronounce the word "baton" in this video. 
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A lot of people have asked what game I'm playing in the Winter Soldier section, despite the fact that I credited it at the start of the Winter Soldier section.
The game is called Earth Defense Force Iron Rain. Pretty fun game, especially if you have a second person to play with.
Might do a follow up video discussing Widow and WS's gameplay in this game. I think Widow feels really bad to play as and WS is pretty fun, despite being a lazy composite of other characters moves.
I’ve gotta try that! I’ve got Four and Five, a lot of the fanbase has kinda dismissed it as inferior so I’ve been waiting for a price drop but I dunno even a meh EDF game is still pretty good in my book.
Just answer it lmao, maybe they just didn't see it. You already sound so passive aggressive in the video, and you're doing the same in this pinned comment. Maybe it's just your inherent attitude, just be nice, not all your viewers are 💯 focused on the video LOL, you're a RUclipsr it's the least you can do. It makes you look like a man child.
i was thinking was anyone else wondering that
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Being a good person won’t get you there.
“but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness-for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.”
Romans 4:24-25 NIV
if you put your faith in Jesus, repent of your sin, and follow God. God will judge you based off of Jesus’s sinless, perfect life, rather than your own sinful life making it so that God will accept you into Heaven.;
Cool. I would love it if you did the same for all the other characters.
all the dev's of this game needed to do was to make one civilian outfit for each character just for the people who like that style. But instead, there are loads of civilian outfits for each character
@@Fiiwse5676 there's shaders?
Well… I mean she does do disguises a bit…
Literally as a civilian outfit lover this was way to much for me just give us three different civilians looks and then have different color options attached to the outfit lol like the recolors don’t need they’re own slots lol
i like tge more casual and civilian outfits and i one hundred percent agree. there aew WAY to many of those in this game.
For the MCU winter soldier suit I always thought that he had the glove on his metal hand to add extra grip where his normal hand wouldn’t need it because it’s flesh.
That’s a good theory!
same
@@feetyeet8538sir this is a marvel video
@@feetyeet8538 well that's just inconvenient, imagine being born before Jesus existed, or like everyone living in China for for the past 2000 years, or on a remote mountain, they were never even given a chance. That a messed up interoperation of God you got there, insulting to the supposed creator of everything's intelligence or kindness really, you must live in constant pain if you believe that, unless you yourself are that cruel and irrational, then it all makes sense
@@feetyeet8538lmao
Jesus Christ, even the colors are mostly faded on all of her outfits. Guess they were really obsessed with "reAliSm"
Realism ruins a lot of modern games in my opinion
@@Infinite_Repeat very true
Its sad Winter Soldier had such bad skins, theres not a lot to go off for him, but if the dev team didn't cut corners they may have been better
His captain America version and his Howling Commandos versions should've made it
I really love your Avengers costume videos. You really give these outfits a proper critique as they deserve, pointing out the true flaws of these outfits and where they could have improved.
I would love to see you go over the costumes in Midnight Suns. I'm curious as to your thoughts on the designs on that game.
Thats an incredible Idea
I’d been thinking the same thing
Yeeessss hope Dorito god does that next
Yes this would be cool!
I forgot that game came out
Considering how Bucky feels like he missed the memo in the costume department, and has sooo many more suits than Janethor, I have to assume he was from MUCH earlier in development, possibly at that point people talk about where you couldn't double-up heroes.
In the case of Black Widow, I actually do like her casual costumes more since at least they're not yet another variant of black bodysuit.
And I think the coat skin could've been cool if they had played it up as a Film Noir-inspired look. Give her a fedora, make the coat look more like a trench coat, change her hairstyle to something appropriate for the time period, and it could've been a fun themed costume for Widow.
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When the dev's say "more realism" you do know were seeing a unfrozen super soldier, a Russian agent, a 100 year old god with a magic hammer, a giant gamma monster and a billionaire in a iron suit i think realism is kind out the window
Thor is much much older than 100 btw but yeah definitely
Don’t forget a King with a Panther suit, a super soldier with a metal arm,human- mutate in a red and blue suit with web shooters, and an inhuman with Mr. Fantastic powers, then regular ass people with bow and arrows and swords, with a one-eyed dog beside them
In the MCU, Bucky uses his robo-arm for power, and his flesh hand for dexterity and precision. Having a glove would get in the way of that.
Of course, you have to wonder what happens to all the fingerprints he leaves. Maybe they're burned off, or masked somehow.
I like the casual skins for Widow because they look like something a SHIELD agent would wear. The default turtleneck looks like something you'd see a character wearing in Bond or Mission: Impossible.
I wanted to weigh in and just say I do like the casual outfits. I find it really charming to see what heros look like when they are off the job. It shows that they aren't just heros, they are people, and that makes it easier to relate with them
its insane how they managed to mess up so badly on the movie suits. insomniac managed to translate the movie suits perfectly, surely it isnt too hard to double check if the seam lines are supposed to be black or grey?
Black Widow has the Venom symbiote in a new run and the white parts of the venom suit are now red mixed with her widow symbol. Wish this game had been better we could've got that suit
11:51 normally im a casual costume hater, but i actually like this costume and its because there are details that show the clothes actually belong to the character lmao, like she has a black widow belt on, the zipper on her jacket is the symbol as well, it looks like clothes that she would actually own and wear, wish more casual outfits even attempted this. Also love your videos!! We need more people talking about costume/character design in game, as they often go over looked!
As someone who ALSO doesn't care for Black Widow. I think the problem is that most people use phrases like "I don't care", "I'm not a fan" or "I don't like" in a negative connotation instead of a neutral one. Specially the later.
So they just assume they are the same as saying "I hate".
I love how all of black widows costumes are just "HEEHHEEHEOOOO SINGLE COLOR!!!"
Yay, winter soldier was actually so fun to play as
Probably giving them too much credit but bucky's hair colour changing could be on purpose to show how he was locked away and only sent out on night missions for such a long time as his hair darkened and the after becoming a hero again and being out in the sun more slowly lightened his hair back to a more natural shade for him
I Like casual costumes, becasue:
1-i like to see what characters wear outside the line of duty, it adds characterization,
2-i come from media with more fashion-focused designs for outfits, so the hereos having drip streetwear instead of their superhero spandex is a nice transition for people like me, and
3-it's just hilarious to go and beat up hordes of enemies and superpowered villains dressed in a swimsuit.
With all that said, this all depends on the costumes being well-design and interesting to use. Which this game doens't.
I'm a big trench coat simp but even i can admit that widow white trenchcoat is low-effort. Like at least give her a hat for the carmen santiego look.
I suppose this is the inevitable conclusion of a game striving for realism over personality like avengers: the Superheroes in casual outfits don't look like superheroes in casual outfits, thye look like average joes. (and the acutal hero costumes also look like average joes in cosplay)
I like casual too
Really surprised they didn’t have Bucky’s Captain America suit. That seems like a no brainer.
The whole "Fem Fatale wearing black leather and using pistols" is such a generic trope, that there are multiple characters like that even within Marvel Comics itself.
What makes the causal clothes even worse is because generally everything else in this game screams lazily done and/or bland so seeing plainclothes costumes for superheroes doesn’t help.
The devs of this game made it seem like games are near impossible to make when in reality its just impossible for them to make anything worth buying
I think THE most egregious thing about BW's costumes is the hair.
Not only do most of the hairstyles not match their comic counterparts, which I guess isn't terrible, but the material for the hair is AWFUL. I noticed it with other characters like Thor too, but on BW it looks noticeably worse for some reason, probably the colors. Everything on the costumes tries to have this more realistic material to it, and I think for a lot of aspects they nail it like with plastic or metal, but the hair looks like something from a PS3 game. It looks super matte and barely lit, and there's little to no contrast in the color of it. For black hair it's less noticeable, but on a character like BW with blonde and "red" hair, it's VERY noticeable and looks really bad.
But yeah, she needed the more red hair. It just looks brown in this game, and I mean come on, people in real life can have pretty red hair, and besides, hair dye exists. Even the MCU gave BW properly red hair in Phase 1. Though, looking at the AoU suit, maybe it's best CD didn't give us red haired BW...
for the widow fear itself, even just adding glowing lines on the tonfas wouldve done alot
A metal hand probably lacks grip I guess. That’s why WS uses a glove on his metal arm.
This series of videos just keeps getting better and better
I've always enjoyed heroes occasionally fighting in their regular clothes (key word, "occasionally"). It shows them getting caught off guard and if secret identities are a factor, then it adds a level of stakes where they have to be even more discreet. Which is why I really hate nanotech suits. It makes things way too easy and convenient. Suddenly being attacked? Press a button and the suit is there. Need to get somewhere fast? Suit's in your pocket. It takes out all form of stakes and clashes with the grounded nature of what the MCU was built on. It worked for Iron Man because it was his tech that he made that showed the evolution of his suits, always learning, always improving, always making solutions to problems he's faced in the field. But with Spider-man, when the nanotech is handed to him, it just becomes too easy and breaks is own rules (how does he have regular running shoes on underneath the Iron Spider boots? Because Nanotech). And now everyone has some for of nanotech to the point where it's just a cheap gimmick.
Nanotech (and stuff similar to nanotech) can work for different characters, as long as it's not just a lazy shortcut for the characters to have all their gear on them at all times or to show off the actors faces every 5 seconds. For example, the Symbiote can shape shift into regular clothes (not just vanish underneath skin), it's unique and has the extra layer of having sentience that makes it stand out. Black Panther's nanotech suit tore through his clothes when he suited up which adds an extra crutch to it. Doctor Strange can magic his clothes to change in a uniquely styled way. This doesn't belong to just one character, but when it's applied to multiple in the same exact way, then it just becomes tacky
Imo, even though its bland, I actually like Widow's default tactical outfit. Looks like something an actual spy would wear. I always thought she should wear a black turtleneck like how a ton of spies do, with the red hourglass symbol on the stomach
ive always liked the casual costumes because I always feel like its a situation where they couldnt get suited up fast enough. so you end up getting the bugle boy costume or the american dream costume etc
Seeing your videos makes me wish we had a wiki specifically for superhero costumes. It could cover everything from appeareances in comics and other media, design analysis, IRL and canon lore, concept art, etc. Also it's kinda sad that the MCU tie-in games have better comic costumes. Speaking of which, that could be a good video, though it sucks that the games are mostly exclusive to PS3 and Xbox360 (the ones with ports to other systems are seriously downgraded). I would like to throw in some other games that I think would make for some good analysis: the Marvel Ultimate Alliance series, the Batman Arkham games, maybeeee Marvel: Future Fight?(sometimes it feels too much like an MCU advertisement, even more than Avengers). There's probably more obscure games I could recommend but idk. Great video as always! keep it up :)
Future Revolution would also be a good choice for costume analysis, since it actually has more accurate costumes.
Agreed. I love learning lore about cool suits for superheroes and villains.
I love that seaside hills playing in the background
I like the cord attatched to his arm.
i really appreciate you using Departure from Mega Man Zero Mythos album here, very cool
these videos are weirdly relaxing
I would’ve loved to have seen the Bucky cap costume in this game honestly. If they added Falcon down the line (lol) he could’ve also gotten a captain America suit and you could’ve had almost a full squad of unique caps haha
I think Bungie Studio will do justice with Avengers Roasters look and Gameplay. They know how to make Looter-Shooter games WAY BETTER than Crystal Dynamics which had NO experiences with that genre.
if a brief look is 38 minutes long...what's an indepth look? and will we get one?
An in-depth look would be a 40 minute video shitting on one skin per video.
Perfect.
the fact they don’t give black widow specific hair styles for specific skins just boils my blood
I like more casual skins sometimes because it's a kind of peak into what a more street level or vigilante form of the character could look like. I do think that this game overused this though because it doesn't work well for every character. And on top of that, the actual design of the suits still matters.
This video got me thinking. A black Widow game could be very good. It could focus on splinter cell styled stealth gameplay or maybe more PS2 era Tomb Raider styled gameplay. Maybe blend those together for a game that goes from stealth levels to action levels. It should focus on the government side of the MCU and maybe outside of Nick and Clint it shouldn't have any other heroes in it. I don't know I just think it could be cool. Also a lot of the outfits in this game could be things she wears in each level.
Widow's Stark Tech suit got her, the stealth super spy, lit up like a Christmas tree. With actual Christmas lights.
0:31 to be fair she was created in the 70s, before most of these characters existed but yeah you do have a good point, it's definitely generic.
13:00 It's at this point that I realized why her proportions seemed off this whole time (admittedly, this was triggered by the ridiculous 90's proportions): Not only has any exaggerated femininity been removed from her (you'd think a femme-fatale character named Black Widow would have an hourglass figure and not 34-30-34 measurements), but they added this odd, pointless straps at the lover point of her rib-cage on many of her costumes. This makes her figure look very rectangular; not helped by her very flat stance.
The consistency is lowkey crazy
3:56 “i don’t really care but it still pisses me off” makes no sense yet is a pretty good summary for your channel overall
As someone who likes casual costumes and battle-damaged cosmetics, I'd like to throw my opinion into the ring since it's something that keeps coming up in these videos.
Firstly, I just like the variety. A wide range of outfits gives you incentive to switch between them more often and just unlock more of them. Supersuits are awesome and always will be, but if you don't have ANY non-supersuits or if every Supersuit is pristine, then I feel like you're missing out on the variety of having more unique models and outfits.
Secondly is the roleplaying potential. Every costume tells a story, and in your mind's eye, a story of hastily thrown-together gear or the aftereffects of a brutal battle add something to the current fight or mission and can make the character feel more alive.
Thirdly, they add a sense of relatability. Sure, superheroes as a medium are larger than life, but those heroes (especially in Marvel comics) are people, too, and get involved in events even when duty doesn't call. This ties back into point two, sure, but it adds to the fantasy for me: the idea that anyone can be a hero, regardless on if all of their supersuit is on right or if they've been beat up and need to get back up on their own two feet to save the day. Anyone can wear the mask, and no hero in this game is an Adonis who can handle everything thrown at them.
All that said, I do kinda get why you give them low ratings in these videos, anyway. They don't add anything to your personal superhero fantasy, and that's fine! My superhero fantasy tends to have them in supersuits, anyway, so it's not even a fundamental disagreement. I just think, sometimes, something different helps draws you into the character more.
I completely agree.
You blew my mind with the "glove on metal hands not the flesh hand" bit, never realized how silly it was
This game is why I appreciate other Marvel games for giving either the characters their iconic appearances or an original but could be iconic outfit like Avengers Academy
I would’ve loved to see her suit from Black Widow Vol 6. IMO her best design.
I wouldnt have minded civilian costumes if they did it like they do with Bruce and Tony on the Hellicarrier, use them in Hubs.
I could be thinking too much about it but the glove on Bucky's hand in the winter soldier outfit would I presume to allow for some sort of traction and an overall better grip on things while the normal hand doesn't need it because our hands already have quite a bit of traction so I would assume the metal arm has less traction so the glove helps with that
Just wanted to say how excited I get for every new upload.
You know what infuriates me? Neither Captain America or Bucky have a Bucky Cap costume! Like wtf?! It’s one of the coolest costumes ever!
Never played this game, but I love these videos so much
Thank you for making these videos they're very fun to listen too
The Major Bucky suit might be a reference to David Bowie's Major Tom? They both wear a white suit with an orange visor and then there's the name. I might be reaching, tho, since it's the only musical ref as far as I know.
I think the glove in the metal hand is for grip not protection, the metal palms are problably slippery and hard, making them not very good to hold things with.
I was just wondering when you’d upload again, love the vid
Aside from the good critiques on suit designs, I love how he puts different games on coz it's more entertaining then watching avengers gameplay
It’s so weird too see all these videos with totally normal takes but in the Spider-Man one he was firing off hot takes left and right
Any plans to cover the guardians of the Galaxy game costumes?
Yes
@@DoritoGOD2811hi
Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed it. Is there any chance to see such videos on other superhero games? Cause that would be awesome.
is never a sad day when Dorito God uploads
do Ms.Marvel next
He said at the end of the video that he'll do both Hawkeyes first, then Ms. Marvel last.
Black Widow definitely has better costumes than Bucky who’s only good outfits are his movie skins
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I personally don’t -like- care for her either
Yessir finally 😤
The Sunny Day for Widow is her best top tier
honestly if winter soldier was ANYONE other than bucky that steve would have to go through bucky's death AND another of his friends being winter soldier - both movies and comics
it would be better
- hey steve bucky's alive cool huh?
Man, they did Widow DEAD WRONG with that Fear Itself suit here.
All costumes for each character are just recolored over four unique costumes designs…or not so unique . Sure they have at least one design on to itself but largely the are the same skins just different colors.
It's funny because my favorite Widow skin is the default Turtleneck one, mostly because it's similar to her normal costumes, but different enough. I hate pointless tactical outfits for super heroes unless they are in fact a Military/Tactical/Spy type street level character. Also as a fan of Archer you can't go wrong with the Tactilneck.
What I find funniest is my favorite Bucky skin, is you most hated. The mask on that skin it's fucking terrible you are 100% right about that, but I love the stupid arm hose because it's a stupid comic thing. The rest of the outfit fits that tactical military thing Bucky has normally and it doesn't go overboard with the unnecessary color additions like his Iconic outfits. The Mask is horrible and they should, or should have done a version without the mask and arm hose.
Look forward to you rightfully trashing on the Hawkeye skins and the eventual Guardians of the Galaxy one. I could not care less about Ms. Marvel in any and every form she exists in, but I'll watch that one too. After that you should do other comic videos games and their costumes too as these are definitely entertaining watches I look forward to.
Thank you for taking the time to explain why you like what you like. Most comments just say "I disagree" with no further elaboration. I always think it's interesting to see WHY people like/dislike things and agree/disagree with me.
And I'm sure you'll like what's to come!
@@DoritoGOD2811If you are going to cover costumes from other superhero games, I would recommend the Marvel Future Revolution mobile game. It not only has better original costumes than the Avengers game, but also does a better job translating costumes from the comics. It even has a Black Widow costume from her debut appearance, with 8 different color options to boot!
I get what you mean about not caring about I read 1 decent Black Widow story about her having a husband and a kid and it was alright mostly liked it for the art.
I am so surprised he liked the random red spot on the shoes
"I don't think Balck Widow has a single good suit"
> 14:43
You lied!
YEEEESSSSS keep ‘em coming
Hey man its ok if you dont like black widow thats your opinion and even though she a favorite character of mine i can agree with your points
2:53 photo on the left be lookin like 2 polished bowling balls😂
28:34 Something that really doesn't translate well about this "costume" is the black stripes. In the comics, they were pitch black which made them look like the shadows of actual prison bars. It made them feel like they're in a cage even when they weren't.
The one in-game just looks like a generic thug enemy from a Lego Batman game, or something like that. I also think its weird he has his sleeves rolled up. Bucky just doesn't really do that.
2:51 made me a black widow fan😏
the street clothes are cool looking but would personally feel better if they werent in a game all about superheroes and super powers.
I personally like these casual wear outfits, mostly because it gives off a Vigilante vibe (sorta like the Homemade Spider-Man suits in a way)
though some definitely pull it off better than others, because they need to also seem like it's still trying to be a superhero outfit
Spoiler Alert, he doesn't like the regular human wearing regular human clothes.
Why is Crystal Dynamics so stubborn about body proportions, yet change at the weirdest of times? Like, Dorito has pointed out how the body proportions in this game are severely underwhelming, but they change with very specific costumes that don't show up ever again?
Why? If you decided to change it, why not just update all of the other costumes, since it doesn't look like it'll cause many issues with gameplay since you've included it anyway. Like, Black Widow looked really nice with the swimsuit but it never shows up again, same with that one Cap suit that updated his body proportions.
Crystal Dynamics just confuses me, man.
I figured the glove on the arm was because of grip or something along the lines
Hey I was wondering if maybe you could do a similar video for the costumes in other recent marvel games like Midnight Suns or Guardians of the Galaxy!
I'm glad they added the summer costume for Widow, for all the wrong reasons tho
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Hey, was wanting to get into content creation and was wondering what mic you use?
It's a blue yeti usb mic, but I don't remember the exact model
@@DoritoGOD2811 thanks man, really love your content! keep the good work up
Random Frog Forest ost in a video about a superhero game's costumes is Random but appriciated
I hope you talk about how dumb it was they led with Lady Hawkeye instead...Hawkeye.
I feel like I don't have the Sunny Days outfit for Widow somehow, I definitely would have remembered that when I redownloaded the game post death lmao
The Classic Stealth outfit is definitely my favourite outside of a couple of her MCU costumes. While not being 1 - 1 accurate to the comics like some say, it certainly captures the *feel* of her classic catsuit from the comics for me which is why I really like it.
Such a shame that most of her outfits in this game look so boring. There are only so many ways you can slightly alter the colour and add seams and lines to a black catsuit, I suppose 🤷♂️
I like the codename outfit because it reminds me of bondgirls.
Dude I absolutely love this video series and I think it would be rly cool if you ranked the Batman skins in the Arkham series but if u want to stick with ranking crappy game skins like the avengers u could do Gotham knights witch sucked just like the avengers but has kinda cool skins
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