A brief look at Captain America's costumes in Marvel's Avengers
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2023
- Rambling about digital cosmetics in a "live" service game, Captain America flavored this time.
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Black panther has the best imo so I want him.
Spider-man but it would be cool if you compared some of his suits to the Insomniac games. See possibly what each side did right and wrong etc
the main suit (not the suit you start with) in batman Arkham knight is a good example of how to make a suit look armoured without it looking to bulky. You can tell from looking at the suit that it's supposed to be an armour and at the same time it doesn't look like batman had McDonalds last night
That's why I love that suit so much. It makes Batman look big and scary but not like he put fucking pillows inside his armour
Even the MCU Cap suit is actually a good example of how to make an armored suit that doesn’t look too bulky.
Even the origins suit as bulky as it is, still doesn’t make him look fat lmao
You can have beefy and bulky and still make it look reasonable
To me, the v8.03 Batsuit is perhaps the best street level Batsuit ever created, in my opinion. 🤤
@@feedthemeat543f I love the origins suit the gauntlets are just too big and bland in my opinion
4:53 At least with the CW, it’s understandable because they ARE cheap. It’s a relatively low budget network.
But with the Avengers game, they could have modeled the suit in any way they wanted.
And they did model it anyway they want. They were on a tight budget too, you know
@@Mr.Drew70 I’m pretty sure that modeling a flat surface is easier than modeling a zipper.
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And I’m pretty sure the avengers suits are better than the insomniac suits
@@Mr.Drew70 sure buddy, now take some meds
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Hey don’t hate me because I speak the truth
The problem with the costumes in this game in my opinion is that
They tried way too hard to belike Insomniac's Spider-Man universe with the hyper realistic suits but they went *OVER 9,000* with it like Insomniac atleast knew to keep the suits looking more muscular and heroic looking with very vibrant comic book colors to contrast with the realism and keep it perfectly balanced like Yin and Yang where as The Avengers suits have nothing to contrast the hyper realism of the suits and it just looks like a guy who works a 9-5 threw on a cheap cosplay online and said "This will be okay for a comic con"
The Iron Man Suits in IRON MAN VR look like superhero costumes, The Iron man suits on MARVEL'S AVENGERS look like a Villain's background random Foot Soldiers
they really seem to fail to understand that he isnt just a muscular guy, hes literally meant to be peak human performance. he is as good as you can get without being superhuman.
He is superhuman tho like Batman is more of a peak human then CA because CA took drugs to get the way he is so he’s not technically full human at that point
Yeah he is superhuman took drugs for it. He can lift, run, and think faster than about every human alive even taking into account genetics, experience, and non super hero making drugs (PEDs).
@@gagedawson9352 KingPing is a peak human (talking about strength)
@@emmnu262 depends in some cases he is portrayed as STRONGER than Spider-Man which in general spider man is equal or stronger than cap he lifts cars and stuff with as much effort as lifting overstuffed grocery bags(I’m referring to spider man) so I would believe that king pin either does a LOT of drugs or the human bodie can go further in the marvel multiverse
@@fernadogonzalez2940 Idk about that. Back in black is the definitive proof that Spidey is leagues stronger than kingpin. Even then, what is shown is actually him STILL holding back
If anyone wants to see Marvel superheroes in a "realistic" art style, look at Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2. Those games nailed the perfect balance between realism and stylization.
Na most of those were ugly, and what made it worse is all the characters only had 2 costumes but in the original UA they had 4 each.
Those game were ugly asf anyone who play it can tell you the best thing about those games was the gameplay not the graphics
MUA2 cap is ugly. MUA3 has a better looking suit
@@B-MagMUA3 is dogshit compared to MUA1
You can tell when they used the “heroic proportions” model because his right deltoid overshadows his bicep and is in line with the forearm musculature. You can see they used that model for the infinity war suit.
The Designers missed the mark by not repainting the minimalist suit into classic cap colors and giving him a helmet. That probably would be one of the best looking original costumes of the game.
Also to take note: a lot of people are use to skins being always worth something, but they make the default a boring design because they don’t want you to like the default skin. They want you to invest in the prettier looking skins
The skin are something I've always loved about super hero games. I still remember finding orange and brown in wolverines revenge behind the truck
Same.
It's a shame the original costumes came out like this in the final game. In the official art book of the game, you can see the concept designs of them and they look 🔥
One omission that baffles is the gaiters on his boots. Both the comics and MCU would add gaiters to Cap’s design to call back to his WWII roots, a very cool visual detail that is sorely lacking in the game suits.
I don't get why they didn't recolor the Stark Tech suit and say that was the Secret Empire suit, it was way easier
It's not based on the armoured suit, it's suppose to be his regular suit with a hydra logo where the star was.
But since this game has an armoured suit, you're right in that they should've just recoloured that instead.
I love how you ended up uploading this video after the announcement of this game's cancellation lol.
I would like to see you discuss every character's skins. Both of the videos you have made have been very interesting to watch, and this one was a great reminder of how Iron Man is the only character in this game that has good skins. This game doing such a bad job with its' art style and skins (most of which you have to pay for until they make them all free when the game dies) really just makes me appreciate Spider-Man PS4 even more for its' beautiful art style and the way it handled skins. Insomniac's designers are truly top tier.
Wait, they are gonna close the servers?
@@cristobalbarra583 The game will still be playable, they just won't be adding anymore content to it or providing customer service.
Full details:
- The game's final planned update that will enhance traversal will be on March 31.
- On March 31, ALL cosmetics will be given to the players for free.
- Sadly, no refunds will be given to players who purchased cosmetics.
- On September 30, the game will be removed from all storefronts, and they will no longer be providing customer service, or doing server maintenance. Which means if the servers have any problems after Sep 30, there's no guarantee that they're gonna fix it.
- If you manage to find a Pre-Owned copy of the game after September 30, and it's your first time playing the game, you will still be able to play the game normally.
- Spider-Man will remain exclusive to PlayStation even after the game dies.
@@BillDozer bro the no refund is so messed up, is like, look you have to pay for this because is kinda rare and exclusive, but then hey would give all the shit for free and basically say to the players who buy things fuck you, imagine making that game and still being an asshole
@@cristobalbarra583 I mean, they paid for the skins and were given the skins. Why should everyone get a refund? Maybe if you bought a skin in the last couple months? Sure. But it's dumb to say everyone needs to be given a refund.
@@TommFoolery Yeah, I agree with this. If you bought a skin all the way back in 2020, then there's really no reason to be given a refund since that was a long time ago, and that money would've went towards adding content to the game. I feel like at least if you bought a skin sometime within the last 3 or 4 months you should get a refund, but they're not even doing that, which sucks.
I think the reason the Front Line suit has glitches in the face because they didn't skin weight it. When you're making the rig (skeleton) for a model and combining it with the model, they won't automatically synchronize so you have to actually paint on what parts of the model should move when the skeleton moves. So when using the Front Line suit, instead of skin weighting the new model so it matches with the rig, it looks like they just kept the skin weight info from the base model and causing the face to not match right.
A big problem I have with Cap's outfit collection is the fact that they only ever use the round shield, even for outfits like the pre order bonus that should have the old heater shield design. Why does it bug me so much? Because when you're playing as Kamala trying to find Jarvis, you see the original shield in a glass case. The model is ALREADY in the game, why not use it? Especially for that pre order outfit, it would've made Steve's face constantly melting a bit more bearable if they put that bit of effort in.
Please make more videos like these, I love listening about game costumes/skins.
The mcu suits are always the light at the end of the tunnel in these videos
Yes, I was very disappointed that they did not include the Age of Ultron Cap suit. Probably my favorite from the movies.
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old shirtless cap is the embodiment of "some bloke from Brooklyn"
4:53 That's one of the reasons I like the Deathstroke & Wintergreen suits, Even if they have a zipper, at least is covered by armor padding, a strap & Belts, unlike the others
I really enjoy your takes on the outfits in this game it's interesting to see perspectives of someone really into comics actually talking about these
The shade thrown with "live" service in the description lol
He looks like a football player who's uniform is Captain America looking. Age of Ultron movie was always the best costume.
I also find it ironic that he looks just like a blue colored Soldier Boy from The Boys. Funny since Soldier Boy was an edgy parody of Steve.
Ima use the Hydra suit just so I can be soldier boy in this game lol
@@WooIverine I like the Living Legend and Marvel Now suits though
“The Avengers 1 suit has nothing on the back”
Well….. I wouldn’t say that…..
That really is America’s a$$
Space punisher had a four armed hulk WHO WAS NAKED 😂
For me personally, in terms of build? It's always on a hero by hero basis. Let me put it this way: Mr. Fantastic can be a twig. A human Green Lantern should probably be either a twig or fat at some point. Jack Black as Green Lantern? Not a bad idea, depending on what you want out of him. King Kong mode Jack Black, for example, as Green Lantern could have been FANTASTIC. The idea that got leaked? Where we were would have been dealing with Orange County/Year One/Gulliver's Travels mode Jack Black? AWFUL. Rightfully canned.
Idk man, the Sunny Days outfit for Black Widow, she's pretty muscular, at least compared to Johansson
I personally think the Endgame suit is an 8/10 not only because of no white arms but also his gloves look like he took some off a 3 year old.
I like how you noted the missing white bands around the arms on the Endgame suit. Literally that's the only thing that puts the Age of Ultron suit above it for me. It made sense tonally why they got rid of them for Civil War, but it feels like they just forgot to put them back when he gets his new suit in Endgame.
Also, I always found it weird that they changed rhe name of "the new vintage" costume from "Ultimate patriot" (or something like that). It always made me wonder if they were planning to actually use that skin as a base for an Ultimate comics skin.
The idea shown at 17:49 has a very interesting version used in the MCU suit: the straps Cap has in the shoulders/chest (that looks like when comics cap use the shield straps like a backpack) has the magnet to hold the shield and the way the magnet is shaped to connect the straps looks like a star
19:41 I burst out laughing when I saw this suit. It looks like a Corgi 😂
These suit related videos are great to watch. The Iron Man suit video is what introduced me to your channel and I really enjoy these type of videos
The iconic suit looks like a minion for some type of captain america task force,
Like batman's cops in justice league unlimited when he become justice lord or superman's soldiers in bvs
Yea
@@wiggard probably
The first suit looks good if it was a cosplayer who used to be a cop. That's the vibe I get from it like a boys in blue honoring the police fan art or like a variant cover costume you'd see for like a day to honor cops. Feel it so needs some more color and could scale back on the unnecessary bits like the forearm guard things or the knee pads.
Heavy armor on Captain America just doesn't work for me as it just unnecessary due to Cap's reflexes and agility is so great that the only defense he really needs is his shield, plus being physically more durable than average humans as well.
I can’t wait to see you cover the Thor and Hawkeye outfits
I'm not sure when this was edited but the point about the Route 66 suit while valid won't matter after March 31st as they are making ALL marketplace items free after that date. So use the ones you like
From what I heard from CD is that the entire Marketplace will now be free. I've gotten the preorder suits before the game came out because I enjoyed the look of them, just never used them plus for the longest time, all my base line characters used the Stark Tech suits because they looked pretty good minus the Hulk's one as it kind looked funny with how it moved on him but the design of it was good just not the way it moves.
Thank god you made this video.
I need content of someone hating on superhero costumes to survive.
Also, it's criminal how Cap is as skinny as Homelander (TV show, outside the suit).
Oh my god it really does look like the Thin Blue Line flag. I knew I hated this suit for a reason
Midnight suns got the look right. Avengers got the voice right
More, more, MORE! But I seriously subbed for these, and I'm glad you're doing more.
... wow. People spent MONEY on these? Well, they're all gonna be free after March, so get 'em then.
Also, the Batman Arkham games and the PS4 Spider-Man each did a terrific job of bringing in suits from the comics and not compromising on their designs for the sake of "realism" (OK. the Batman Beyond suit in Arkham Knight is an exception).
It's like Steve in the Avengers- the video game universe never took the serum or something.
For a super soldier, he’s built like a pretty average human
1:30 yeah, he looks like a SWAT member who was a really big fan of Cap
Yeah the second my physique was the same as Cap, I knew there was a problem
So this game was just announced to be dying in September of 2023, literally last night they said we would be getting no more updates, as someone who barely played this game, I was honestly kinda surprised at that announcement, either way one day I hope we get a real avengers game
Cap having stubble also goes against his character.. him being an army man he would be used to shaving with a straight razor, so he SHOULD be absolutely clean shaven as part of his uniform attire.
Him having stubble shows him being a modern man who uses an electric razor, and that doesn’t fit his character or his look.
I think the main issue with Caps default suit is the fact they went with a realistic look for what he would wear but then made literally everyone else as comic booky as possible,
like Ironmans default suit in this game look like it should give 0 protection to gunfire because it’s so thin looking on the metal, it looks like if somebody punched him with brass knuckles it would hurt him through his armor and meanwhile black widow is still just running around in a skin tight still.
like they really should have just gone fully with one or the other and not mix its either go fully armored realistic or go full comic book having it be different between characters just looks weird.
Holy shit! That Americana recolor looks 🔥.
I will never understand the obsession to make costumes unnecessarily different from the comics version. The fNew Vintage suit is close, but those pants bug me so much, and it's partly a asset reuse. I hate how this game cuts corners with its cosmetics.
i logged on just to like your video and subscribe. God tier content man
His iconic suit looks like an alternate Solider Boy costume from the Boys tbh
The iconic cap works in a universe that's more "realistic" and has Cap working closer with Law Enforcement. But other wise, I agree with your points.
Not really, it isn't realistic because it's not a military armor. Its just meaningless padding and armoring. Cap is very skinny too so the padding makes him look fat. Seems like it's realistic, but it's not.
I weirdly like the makeshift costumes only to make a group photo of all the avengers in really shitty gear and laugh, featuring:
Hospital Cap
Fighter pilot Tony
Donald Blake
5 O'clock shadow hulk
Normal/Makeshift Kamala
Jacket Natasha
You know what infuriates me? Neither Captain America or Bucky have a Bucky Cap costume! Like wtf?! It’s one of the coolest costumes ever!
Although I don’t like this game, I will say I wish you could’ve swapped around visual elements from the suits.
Imagine if you could’ve given a color scheme from one suit and put it onto the design of another. Like you could have Iron Man mark one with the red and yellow, or the MCU suit for Captain America in US agent colors. Or maybe if you want to give any of the Captain America suits the self shaded look.
Ayyyy! You included my Cap “blue lives matter” reference from the other video! Awesome.
The cel-shaded skin is cool.........that's all I'm gonna say.........
This game's version of the Secret Empire suit it's straight up Captain Jamaica
I'm glad you picked something that is actually good to watch, i.e Battlefront.
There's a couple of suits you gave 6/10 that I think are actually solid 8/10. The one with scales looked pretty good.
They gave cap a furry suit lol
Damn bro i just found ur channel and watched the last few videos and I get another one rn . Nice content
Thanks Mr. White
The WW II suit may not be accurate, or even good. But both are just so swag in my opinion.
I completely agree.
I think the Endgame costume is frustratingly close to perfection as far as modernization of the classic scales suit goes. I agree with your one problem that keeps it from being 10. He needs the white sleeves for color breakup! imo the red lines on the arms, while they help and are better than nothing, are still only a flimsy band-aid for what it's lacking. Also also, wish the gloves and boots were a bit more red. Frankly would love it if they were entirely red but I guess they could be brown base so long as there's plenty of red highlights in the detail.
If they wanted to make a base Captain America suit for the game, they should have used the Marvel Now Captain America Suit that looks similar, but at least it doesn't look like Swat gear lol
I think secret cure is fine because it’s like when he frist gets the super soldier serum.
Make shift iron man mark one and proto type mark 2 is just taking the piss.
I don’t blame having a mark two because it’s just a recolor and it looked dope in Ironman two.
From now on I'm referring to the iconic suit as Copper America
I’m kind of a sucker for the super soldier suit. I think other than the zipper and the shade of brown they used it’s a pretty damn good adaption of the suit from the comics. And it even has the circle around the star, which the MCU removed. I’m kinda glad this is the main suit and not the iconic suit because I’d much rather wear this for 90% of the game than that.
I actually really like the suit from the winter soldier that’s the one I have equipped!!
12:40 imagine the town is in trouble and captain America comes running in with this get up. Your be like :|
Honestly I realize now that Cap is sort of built like a astronaut when he’s wearing his suits and not casual clothing🤣 also to add, thank god I didn’t drop a lot of money on some skins because I heard that we’re going to get almost every skin for free once the game officially shuts down in September.
i feel they tried to hide the America part on captain AMERICA! thats not what steve rogers is about he is proud of what he stands for
I've always said this but the iconic suite looks like leon Kenedy from the re2 remake
I use Ultimate Patriot the most, as it's his best comic skin that matches with everybody else's modern looks.
I'm not mad at CD for trying to put their own spin and be inspired by comic costumes, they just pale by comparison when all the MCU skins blow them clean out the water.
Tbf they have been getting closer and closer to comic accuracy as the game went on, just a shame we're no longer gonna get anymore, there's a few more Cap skins I would've loved to have seen; Ultimates, Cel Shaded without the Cel Shade, Age of Ultron, Civil War etc....
00:10 funny enough I clicked on this video to help me fall asleep 😂
The thing I hate the most, is the people in charge of designing these games and writing the stories for the movies, making such drastic changes because they are ashamed of the source material. They're embarrassed by where these characters came from and find comic books pulpy and ridiculous. It's really really unfortunate that there is little to no inspiration in comic based media. Instead its super modernized in order to make as much money as possible.
The obvious main issue is the character model. The proportions are completely off, the arms are like almost twice the size of the body. Its like someone stuck a titan human arms on a normal sized guy. There's also no muscular definition and natural bulk. Everything feels like a computer made shape that's just stiff and gives you the impression that if you took off his armor, there would just be a gaping chest hole that goes right through because they didn't render a chest behind the armor plating.
Great example at 7:14 of failing to get the look right. They beefed him up mh sure, but the proportions are roughly the same in almost every way, there's no wider lats that move the arms out, wider back, thicker ab. They don't understand BMI and how you get bigger not just by muscle, but by bulk. He still looks skinny, but just with artificial sections that are muscled up.
13:08 that's the fixed buffer pysiche furthering my point. And the neck muscles are the only thing there, the shoulders are idiotically small and low.
Who doesn’t like the scene in the First Avenger where he saves the prisoner? Yes it’s not the best Captain America scene but it’s one of the best Steve Rogers scenes and shows us who he truly is as a person and I personally think that’s better
Genuinely wonder how more varied costumes are going to be used for like, the 50 people still playing this game once it's all free like it probably should have been.
...or everyone'll just exclusively use the MCU suits, that's probably more likely.
Urban eagle would probably look better if it didn’t look like buff James corden
Zipper on the ultimate suit if the star is covering, the zipper would have to takeoff the star, which is like attached to the suit, because of Alyssa added a zipper to the back of it
I simply cant wait for the Hulk video!!!
The first suit for Captain America in the game would look good for John Walker's Captain America
Yeah that's why the US Agent recolour fits so well.
Really like this video. Thought you harped on the muscle thing a bit much. I agree, it just took up a lot of space in the video.
Also RIP to the game. Bittersweet to see it die
The "Classic" has a better recolour, sure the wings on the helmet are still black, but it comes with black gloves and boots, so it at least matches the rest of the costume lol
His classic armor is supposed to mimic the scales of dragon scale armor . can't understand why they chose the square stuff
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you see the thing is, the og mythology werewolves were just people who (in very inconsistent ways throughout different beliefs) turned into a wolf. not a humanoid one or bigger more menacing one, just normal wolfs.
I personally don’t mind the inclusion of the crappy makeshift costumes. They made the model for the story, might as well let us use it normally even if it doesn’t look all that good due to not really being a costume.
3:23 I honestly kinda like this one. But, that’s just because I have a bias for Cap costumes with wings coming off the chest star.
Looks like his mom made him put on extra layers of sweaters because its gonna be cold out.
Couldn't agree more with this video
The werewolf costume makes him look like a furry, instead of an actual scary and monstrous looking. They should’ve made the mask all torn up, and make him bigger. He’s more of a corgi rather than a wolf.
Captain "Dad Bod" America isn't doing any of his costumes any favors.
The Defenders gonna be coping real hard now that the game is shutting down
Ayy SWB2 alright!!
Great video