More Power Puller Helps Pull Down 75 Foot Tree, & Winching Techniques
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2015
- Using the "More Power Puller" hand winch we safely brought down a 75 foot tall tree that was leaning in the wrong direction. We were also able to fell the tree exactly where we wanted it to fall. Much of this could have been done faster using other methods, but we wanted to show the DIYer how we did it using simple tools and simple, easily duplicate-able techniques.
In this video we show how we set up the ground anchors, the winch, and the 250 feet of steel rope.
We even show how we did a winch reset,.. while it was under full load! Let's say that you need to pull a total of 40 feet, but your winch only has about 17 feet of rope (approx. 17 feet of "Amsteel Blue Rope" for a double line pull, 35 feet for a single line pull), you'll need to do a couple of winch resets. How do you reset the winch while it is under full load? In this video we show you how we did it,.. safely and easily!
At the end of the video we even show how to easily and safely remove the three foot long ground anchors from hard frozen ground.
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Nice explaination of ground anchoring and winching. Thanks for showing.
Thank you for your compliment, I hope that you may put it to good use someday. Blessing to you.
Your welcome,.... thanks for watching. Pay it forward, God Bless.
might change your title to one man band. lol
A trick : watch series at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies recently.
@Josue Fisher definitely, been watching on Flixzone for months myself =)
You are a good teacher. Others on here don’t understand what it means to be quiet, listen and learn.
For those of us whose dads weren't around and whose grandfather's died when we were boys, this type info is very helpful. Excellent instruction!
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Excellent video. As the owner of a More Power Puller I was just watching a few youtube videos as a refresher course in case my truck got stuck. I just ordered a couple of days ago some 40 inch long giant tent pegs for using as a picket ground anchor system like you were using so seeing you also demonstrate this and then how to get them out afterwards was an unexpected bonus. For me this is two great videos in one! Lots of detail in everything from modifying cotter pins to leaning the sledge hammer on the first picket. I’ve book marked this to watch again when I need another refresher course. Lots of negative reviewers expecting to see a chainsaw video instead of actually reading the title and comprehending what it means: More Power Puller and Winching techniques. Thank you for posting this.
That was a GREAT tutorial video! It's great because you actually teach us what you're doing, rather than assuming everyone knows what you're doing.
763 people didn't understand this was a rigging/winching exercise for those times when a nearby tree isn't available. Very interesting details and tips for us home gamers.
Great . . . I been fighting with chains most of my life... I like the way you rig up the chains to grip onto your work . .. Up until today . ..knowing your method has helped me understand how to let the chain work for you... I like the way you take your time and work safe and smart....
The ground anchors idea with leaning sledge is brilliant!
Very well done and explained and a thumbs up for the video
As someone who knows nothing about any of this I was amazed at how you removed the ground anchors!
Awesome demonstration of ground anchors. I run a commercial tree service and often anchor to trees or vehicles but this gives me another option could be extremely useful.
That was an amazing video! Thank you for showing the right way to anker a tree when felling.
This was a very instructive video! Even though I am a certified logger I use a primitive version of this technique to "cheat" and force the tree to go exactly where I want it to go. I usually can find a tree to hook a strap to, but this is a very useful technique when one isn't available. I have never used chains before, but now I will probably start doing so. I have been using 3/4" poly rope. My comealong is like this one but it has a metal cable. It even worked to help me "guide" a dead oak tree that was over 100' high and 4'7" wide at breast height. But using the two chains in tandem is a great improvement.
I agree with other comments that it APPEARS that your situation may not have needed all this work, but obviously your intent was to teach techniques, and I learned a lot! Thanks for sharing!
Your right G.M.,.. our intent was to give back to the RUclips community and teach the winching and ground anchoring techniques that we use. That's not say that this is the best way to do it, it is just what works for us. Thanks for watching.
Takes me back to the times when I was first learning how to relax the load from the come-along... Had some fun with that!
Great video ! It may have been easier to anchor the winch to the tree directly behind where you drove spikes into the ground. A simple heavy anchor strap would suffice. Also hand signals to someone on the winch would allow one to cut only and saves time running back and forth.
Funny how cold air makes your nose run, thanks for the lesson some guys wondered why you did not use the tree for an anchor, but you were showing how you can do it anywhere! Thanks I get it.
Tears washing across your eyes are collected by the nasolacrimal duct, dumped into the nose and wafted by cilia to the throat where you swallow them. Cold air chills the mucosal cells of the nasal cavity, slows the beating of the cilia and results in leakage. ;)
Well, I learned a lot so thanks for posting. You never know when this method will be needed. That's pretty slick how you transferred the tension to another chain and reset the rope. I also have trees leaning towards power lines and will be applying all the things I've learned on these videos like yours to bring them down safely without errors. It only takes one mistake as I have found out when a tree didn't go where I expected. Fortunately I just brushed the high voltage lines across the road and nothing broke but my spirit. The lesson for that day - don't get in a hurry. Hope you get over that cold, cheers!
I just subscribed. Anybody who has MULTIPLE videos about the venerable Wythe-Scott ratcheting come-along gets my respect, until proven otherwise...
+Samuel Luria ......... Thanks!
I know it’s an older video but I really appreciate all the tips tricks and techniques you taught me. Thank you
very honest in teaching! i'm touched!
Enjoyed it, and gained some knowledge. Thanks for posting.
Awesome video !! Tons of useful points and indispensable information about hooking up the chains and stuff ! So many people out there are clueless when it comes to stuff like that
+383chevystroker ......... Thanks, I'm glad you found value in the video.
I'm going to use your video to train my employee's. Very helpful, well done.
Nice and relaxed way of explaining, so much to learn from this, thumbs up!
I enjoyed watching your video, lots of good information about using a wench when felling a tree. Thanks for taking the time and posting this for us that like to learn new/different ways to do things.
I missed the wench, where was she?
To funny I missed her too
Thanks
This is good information for a newbie like myself who knows nothing about rigging. This is what RUclips is meant for. Great video, and thank you for posting! . I'm sure we can all come up with fantastic felling technique (as the inner tree cutter screams out in frustration to me when I see other people using techniques that take more time to get the exact job done) BUT this video is meant to clearly teach basic rigging technique not how to pull a tree down the fastest way safely. Otherwise i read the MANY comments on here for ideas, because honestly some of the ideas in the comments aren't to shabby for tree felling.
agreed " this video is meant to clearly teach basic rigging technique"
Great video,and thanks for taking the time to explain the entire process.
+Jim Fisher,.... your welcome,... and thanks for your comment.
Thanks for doing this, very informative!
Wow! I never would have guessed you could do a timber hitch with a chain on a smooth steel stake like that.
it works like a charm, each and every time!
I just skipped to 15 min to see tree fall...thank you.
Fascinating, truly! Thank you!!
Thanks so much, SeekTheTruth! There were many useful concepts learned and I appreciate the detailed instruction.
+DaringDaver ........ Thank you for your kind words. Sharing knowledge with folks is this channels primary objective.
Great video but Im glad we got trucks big enough to just cut and pull them over
Very well presented, Thanks! I can see the concept that will work in many situations.
I’ve had the steel cable version of this great American-made device for three decades. It has been one of my favorite pulling tools in half a decade of work in the dirt!
I most highly recommend the genuine More Power Puller!!
Wow ive cut a lot of trees. I burn firewood. But that was a slick setup. Not only can an old dog learn new tricks but he can teach an younger one some new ones!! Thanks!! May the peace and love of Christ be with you and yours!!
Thank you,......... for your very kind and generous words. May the Lord shine down his graces upon your paths.
I was going to thumb this down however there were valuable rigging techniques shown during the video.. When he sunk those ground anchors i was like "Yeah good luck pulling those back out".. What is demonstrated is the proper method of wrapping chain into a configuration that allows it to grab a ground anchor and lever it out of frozen ground using only a length of chain, a stump, and riggers bar.
+rainmechanic A Highlift jack would pull those out a lot faster, and if this was something you were going to do regularly you could weld 3-5 links of chain onto the end of the bar. Not only would this be exceedingly safer, as the jack would arrest the bar if it "popped" loose, but it would be easier and faster.
rainmechanic that was.cool how he pulled thosed stakes.
Or heat the ends of the pins bend a small section over or weld a half chain link near the top . Drill a hole through the support section of jack liffting point add a bolted u clamp. I have seen both. half chain link is the best and fastest to offer up connect pull drop .. jack down next one.
glad you could see beyond your first impression prejudices and find value. good for you
Vice grips... that ground is frozen... awful lot of work with the chain, biting and re-biting etc lifting etc … use the vice grips and grab hold of the spike... begin turning it clockwise/counter back and forth till it turns easily... simply lift barehanded.
Very very informative. I really like the technique to pull out the stake. Great. Thank you
+COWs of Suffolk ....... Thanks for watching and I hit my mark if I was able to share and pass along some knowledge with folks. Sharing knowledge is my primary objective in creating this channel.
Your video just popped up, and I found it very informative especially getting the ground anchors out. Brilliant video! Thank you
Thank you for your kind praise,... if our video has helped you in any way, pay it forward. God bless.
Fantastic information!!!!!! Learn something everyday!!!! Thank You
Great instructions on the chain and why it needs to be the way you have done it. Thanks
+Peaceful Prepper .... Thanks
This is educative, thanks for sharing guys.
Thank you, nice rigging.
Best come a longs ever
I hope you like what you're doing because this is not something to do commercially. By the time you have your secure line set, I've got the tree down on the ground. Like I said, I hope you're having fun doing it.
We used to do our ground anchors a little different/ we would put them in on an angle and the top of the fist anchor would be tied of to the bottom of the 2nd anchor and so on....Excellent vid and not many people know how to rig chain and cable and how to advance it...
Thanks for the Vid. Good job.
Great vid! Heart of a teacher.
+Steven L ...... thanks Steven!
Indeed
nice thanks for takeing the time i actually learnt something
+Double Down ..... Your very welcome! One of my goals when posting my videos is to give back to the community of RUclipsrs that I have learned so much from,... kind of "pay it forward" , is my thinking.
@@driventowin very nice thank you
good homestead skill. good video.
got the job done safely! thanks for the vid.
Thanks!
Slick moves getting those steaks back out with that digging bar and log lever. Thanks
Thank you
Smart guy, Good techniques.
Thanks
That was excellent! You must be the son of a farmer.
Thanks!
Awesome technique 👍
fantastic video. thanks Mr.
+Deep Forest ...... Thanks for your comments!
Thanks for the informative video!
Sorry about all the keyboard warriors and their rudeness posting comments here. I would not have done it entirely your way, you should paint your gear bright colors, you should use a nearby tree as the anchor etc. But you did it and it worked. Thanks for posting
Excellent instruction video! This guy knows his shit !
I use Wyeth-Scott pullers where I can't get my truck, but also to pay out cable to the included snatch block or one of my others so I can position the snatch block to redirect cable from my truck winch. Then I can pull the tree over most of the way to the ground by gently accelerating the truck and the tree is never not tensioned by the cable until it's close to hitting dirt.
BTW some wire rope and rope clamps makes an excellent winch cable extension.
Great job friend, I'll bet you are a great father too. Don
Thanks U Tub riggers, funny how all this stuff I did in the woods with my Dad when I was a kid ends up being a big deal. ⚓️
Low tech and super cool. I am smarter in several ways from watching that. Thanks for the video.
Thanks and your welcome. My stated goal for our channel was to have a bit of fun with the family, give back to the RUclips community of knowledge, and pass it forward. It sounds like we may have achieved our goal, in some small way today. Thanks again, and may God bless you.
Thanks for that, I found it very useful, and well explained. I was looking forward to seeing how you pulled out the anchors, and you didn't disappoint. I tend to ignore the pro (or think they're pro) lumberjacks with their scorn and advocacy of such techniques as pulling the tree over with their truck- Hell! my truck's bigger than/pulls better/has the right tyres etc etc. I like to see a more measured, slower approach such as yours. If you're not a pro the time taken isn't so important, and the method you're teaching gives you time to think about what you're doing.
Nadolig Llawen as we say in Wales (U.K)
Thank you for inspiring me to go buy an extra come along!!!
+Samuel Luria ....... I have two identical More Power Pullers, and love them both. I didn't use both of them this day, in part, so I could show how to do a reset, using just one winch.
The truth is, that I don't need any inspiration to get a back-up come-along... They're awesome!! As soon as I have the $, I will get a back-up.
Tie 2 old car tires to each end so if the cable/rope breaks it slows down the "whipping" of the cable that was under tension. Seen a man killed once by that and his wife and child watched it to.
It works incredibly well.
Thanks for the video. I have to take a tree down and do not have any other trees to anchor the puller to. I think I can do it now.
It gladdens me to read that our video has helped and inspired you to attempt to remove the tree you mentioned. Go slow, think it through, put together a solid plan, consider failure modes, mitigate were possible, and then execute. May the Lord's blessings be upon your efforts.
I don't understand the dislikes. this is a very good video.
one acronym for you,
KISS
Very interesting video
everyone's criticizing. for Pete sake there's more than one way to skin a cat so it took longer big deal he got the job done and spent quality time with his family doing it. win win.
job well done sir. good educational video.
Thank you for recognizing this video for what it is,.. an "educational video". Blessing to you.
God Bless you and your family as well.
My Dad has one of these and they are very handy. A come a long is for gentle persuasion, these things are more like you will move this way, lol.
ty, sir.
I spray paint half of my chains yellow and the other half red, it helps to identify at a glance what each end is doing. also is a great help in finding one if I leave one somewhere like the woods or a grassy field. It also makes people ask "why did you paint that chain like that?" the chains would show up good in the snow if it ever come a snow around here
+roy hoco ......... great idea, I like it.
Great idea. And thanks for posting this video - I know that there are a few purposeless and rather discouraging comments from people who aren't interested in learning. Ignorance is its own reward, I suppose.
roy hoco 8
good advice. helpful hint
Good idea
Nice technique. I've seen guys use similar ground anchors for vehicle recovery, but they tilted the anchors away from the load.
Thanks for your kind words about our technique. As for the tilt of the ground anchors, if you watch closely, you'll see that they are in fact tipped away approximately 15 degrees away from the load/tree. I agree with you, that tipping them toward the load/tree wouldn't be prudent.
I'll be using that extraction method to remove some metal fence posts.
Re-rig? Just place 1x blocks or thicker as shims atop your fulcrum as the anchor begins to move. As soon as it's loose enough, slide the chain further away from the lever bar's tip to gain distance as you need less force. Actually just sliding the chain in small steps after each pry motion will probably afford plenty of leverage and travel.
GREAT ENGINEERING
I really like all of your notes and ideas. It is easy to tell that you are an engineer. Want some suggestions? The cotter pin is clever, but an alternative is to shop at a farm/ranch store to see if you can find a hairpin cotter pin that fits. Also, as someone else stated, your truck or the tree that was 10 feet from the last rod would have been faster/simpler anchors. But most of all you were overestimating the tension required to guide that tree in the direction you wanted. It was not a windy day, so the tree was pretty close to being balanced in-place. All it really needed was a connection between the high point on the tree and a fixed object such as your truck or a tree to make sure it did not start to lean in the wrong direction. Any tension at all would have guaranteed movement towards the direction of tension.
Thanks
Wow I never would have thought you could pull up words just by wrapping the chain around like that.
I wish this guy was my physics teacher.
Thanks
Wow this guy nows some tricks he should make more vids
Thank you!
Good job, you show many handy techniques and do it safely. I might make time to learn the stake pulling. I'd say the video title is driving a lot of traffic and hate as its slightly misleading. Its mainly winching techniques and hey a tree is pulled down.
Thanks for your comment and kind words. I don't mean to be "misleading" with the title. I thought the title was/is reasonably descriptive. What title might you suggest,.. I'm open minded to many new ideas.
I know you are trying to do a demo but I see that nice tree that I would use to pull against. I have done quit a bit of tree pulling. Can't beat another tree. Three cheap come-alongs beats one expensive one.
Hi:
When I tie off a tree I throw a lead line over the branch or place I want to tie to; then pull your winch line up with a slip loop made in the end of the tie in...much safer than using a ladder
the swell was swell;)
I did something similar, but threw a weighted string line up over a high branch to pull a rope up and around the tree. Then, tied the long rope to the hitch of my truck to pull the tree over as I cut it. No dangerous ladder climb and no winch setup.
Tatus geniusz - brawo ! Gdybys podlozyl tarp w miejscu upadku drzewa to latwiej byloby ci gamoniu pozbierac smieci.
Abyś wiedział, "tatuś" nie jest geniuszem,.. daleko od geniuszu,.. ale mimo to, dziękuję za miłe słowa i pochwały
I found the best way to pull those stakes out of the ground is to bring my tractor with the front end bucket with the hooks wielded to each side of the bucket. Wrap the chain around the steaks and the other end in one of those hooks on the bucket, get on the tractor and
pull the hydraulic back and POOF out comes the stakes.
Man it looks cold there! We don't have snow down here in South Texas !
To pull the stakes how about putting the fulcrum(log, tree section, etc) on the bar side; run the bar at an angle take the chain, slowly lower the bar then pull the bar down to raise the stake instead of raising the bar to raise the stake. This arrangement is safer and easier on the back than raising the bar. This is the arrangement used to pull tent stakes for years(the bar is a pole on wheels which can be easily maneuvered into location with a chain hanging on the end to go around the stake. Pull the pole down, lift the stake, raise the pole the chain slides down the stake, repeat as needed).
I have done something like this both ways and pulling the bar down is the easier and safer method.
Your method would also work nicely, and easier on the back. Thanks for your input.
You are welcome. Don't like to see someone hurt.
Roy Reynolds qqq
I use a come-along with a steel cable rated over 7000# and I wrap the cable secured with three wire nuts and a clevis to another tree at least the same size at a distance about 50% farther than the tree height. I get the cable taut, then make the V cut in the direction I want the tree to go, then I do back cut, tighten winch, cut some more, then pull tree down with the winch. Drops where I want it each time.
Some HELLIFIED nice gloves!!!!
+Samuel Luria ......... I almost hate to say that the gloves are as cheap as they come, although they are modified, and they last for years now! I should put up a video about how I modify them. When they are new and clean, I completely cover them in 100% pure silicone. I use clear colored silicone. I work the silicone into the cheap split hide leather and hang them on a clothes line to dry. I use 100% silicone from a caulking tube/gun, that way I could pick up very hot objects and not burn the glove. If you use regular caulk it will almost instantly melt, burn, and stink.
Well that's an incredible piece of information it was worth waking up this morning thank you
+Samuel, just for you.... I'll try and put up a video of this operation, when I get a bit of spare time, but it really is just this simple. I've converted all my cheap'o gloves with this method.
Cool! That would be appreciated!!! Have a nice warm weekend!
Hard to believe a video like this has so many dislikes.
While I kind of agree that he did make a bit of a meal of a job that could have been done simpler, he did have some good rigging tips. Especially the ground anchor removal, never seen it done that way, I initially thought 'Ha! no chance of extracting those out of frozen ground'.
I’ve used a similar setup with a come along, chain, and tow rope. I only use one stake though, driven at an angle. This seems like a lot of unnecessary rigging. I only use that system if I can’t get my truck into a position to pull it down, which is MUCH better since you have the ability to jerk or snap the tree quickly AND keep directional tension on it longer by reversing. With the come along method, once it snaps it’s just free falling and has the potential to spin and change direction. Not likely if you make your hinge right but crooked trunks or leaners are sometimes unpredictable.
Nice Video, but I would have waited till spring.
Nice project.
I wonder why can’t we skip the cutting, and just winch the trunk together with the stump, off?
Where did you get your ground anchors and pry bar?
Neat
I did not believe that chain would bite on the ground anchor to lift it out, but yeah it did.