It likely won't include planes like the cr 714 since we only had a couple and removed them almost immediatly because they were terrible oh never mind we already have war thunder stuff like the premium fokker d21 which is actually a one-off prototype registration FR-76 the first fokker d21 of the finnish airforce and the only one ever with wing cannons. I felt the need to rant.
@@obsidianjane4413 Really? Some of them should certainly be different. For example, the brewster should be much lighter than the US ones since it doesn't have navy gear on it.
@@lordmilchreis1885 good for you then. I was referring to tofu claiming swe as strongest tree which is factually not the case. You need strong cas to be considered good tree let alone strongest.
now imagine this: There are people unironically defending gaijin and trying to cope and excuse their behavior I'm afraid at this rate, the better option would be to stop playing their game en masse, focus on GHPC and other, more realistic games, until they're forced to do what we need them to do.
Yeah like ''Last update was a month ago , you can't expect them to make something great in a month'' okay first off last update was shit this one's even shittier and it's the one for the 10th anniversary (unofficially but they could have banked on that and made a true update not a copy paste BS update where everyone gets Soviet stuff but they don't)
I'm half Korean and I already knew it wasn't gonna be Korean. Simply because of the word ice that and there was already a large popular demand for the Finnish tree because Sweden was added.
Gaijin doing what they do best. Releasing horrible updates that cause the server hamster to die. They rush the updates now instead of making sure everything works properly it's just sad now gaijin only cares about money and not the player base anymore. (Wow that's alot of likes on something I didn't even finish typing up context being it was only the first 2 sentences)
mate, they got ddosed and your probably one of those people that cry about premium even tho they are not even that bad to fight, you also think they just update the game and not check anything? bro get a life and if you dont like war thunder so much why would u even have a decal like bruh go away will you, they have better moderation than discord, roblox and fortnite or all the games like that, I made an new account and and tried to speedrun to get banned and I got banned in less than 24 hours lmao
@@GHOULZ1500 to be honest some of the updates do feel rather rushed and tend to be plagued with glitches. I'm not saying that it's a bad game exactly ,and yes I know that the DDos do cause most of the lag, I actually often enjoy the game and don't complain. Besides the DDos attacks sometimes after a update there's a lot of lag, but I do praise gaijin for usually fixing the issue quickly. What I'm trying to say in my comment is how over the years it seems like gaijin doesn't listen to the community anymore or at least not as much as they did in say 2016. The point is my comment isn't trying to start arguments or anything just a slight joke about server hamsters and just simply stating my opinion I hope that clears things up a little.
As a finn I am a bit disappointed Gaijin didn't include any of our more unique vehicles. They only added already existing vehicles that would just make the swedish tech tree stronger.
@@legaroojack1251 bery punny XD, I really wish bt 42 is tt not premium or even if it is, it will probably a rank one premium but I fear it might have huge cost due to its popularity.
LMAO I genuinely didn't realize the trailer was showcasing the new Finland tech tree cause all the tanks featured were copy pasted from other nations. I thought it was just a cinematic production for no clear reason to advertise anything. It took me a hot minute even after they put up the Finish flag.
You forgot the most important step for a war thunder update, ignore all request to fill gaps in the French tech tree with useful and not prototypes vehicles, add a nerfed copy paste tech tree vehicle for France (once or twice a year no more) fix it in 2 years put it at a way higher BR where there is nothing to play it with, refuse to elaborate.
@@snaketanker I say China just because they get an M8 right off the bat, meanwhile in the US tree you either earned it in an event or bought it in the market.
Remember: Adding unnecessary copy paste to take community attention away from REAL problems of the game is faster than solving the problems themselves.
@@SimplyHero except it is, they're completely copy pastes. name one difference in the "new" copy paste vehicles in the swedish tech tree other than the camo.
@@CT--ym5mn Theres a lot of bois like him who are creating a creative and good trees for Poland, Slovak and interbaltic aswell. Still gaijoob dont see it
@@materexpolska9924 gayjin could make one big Central Europe tech tree with lots of original vehicles. But no, let's give another nation leo 2 and t-80
Sad that it isent a new tree tho. they are just adding finnish tanks ot other trees. "In the upcoming War Thunder “Fire and Ice” update, we plan to introduce lineups of Finnish aircraft and ground vehicles as part of the Swedish tech tree!"
instead of adding south africa as an independent tech tree, they add finland, which has 95% vehicles already in the game or from other countries. nice job, snail
The last update wasn't much better either for ground vehicles. It had 14 ground vehicles and 6 of those were just magachs. The rest wasn't much better either, with the M36B2 getting added to two more tech trees (something that could've been done with the last update), yet another panther version and a squadron version of the T80. (The list goes on but you get the point)
See the thing is I see a ton of people that DONT PLAY SWEDEN getting upset when gaps that needed to be filled are filled. Finland has quite a few unique vehicles as well that they have not added yet.
You sure its not going to be a sub tree of Sweden? I mean...they are next door neighbors with Finland, and heh...if you play Hoi4, you got the Northern Lights alliance....
Remember when the Chinese tree came out? I called it out for it just being a copy paste tree, and everyone made up the excuse that at top tier there were unique vehicles. They can't make that same excuse here. This tree is just garbage.
But there will isn't any Finnish tech tree, just a Tech line in Sweden, like South-Africa in Britain. IDK why they have to add 2 same Vampire in one nation (J 28B, And the new finnish Vampire)
Gaijin can put a Brazilian tech tree would not have some new tanks and planes and several tanks that already exist in the game but with different configurations
Still way better than pouring more fuel onto the top tier garbagefire. I mean, they *are* doing it but they are also adding some low-mid tier stuff along with it so it's actually a good thing.
@@NatCo-Supremacist They are pretty nice For example T-34 and Pz. IV will actually give sweden a good 3.7 lineup so playing SAV will be even more fun. More planes will alos lead to better lineups, although I hoped that the tech tree Fokker will also have 20mms but it has just four 7mms.
Dont forget to make the repair cost twice more expensive than the origin country that produce the vehicle.
Not really. For example French vehicles in other tech trees are twice cheap. lol
the parts are made in another country, so yes they are correct, I think.......
@@levi_exiled8579 and israeli vehicles are even cheaper!
USSR vehicles in other tech trees be like: Hmmm, today I will cost 145% more to repair
@@HawkFire74 Stalinium is expensive
Yep, that sums it up
Yoooo kaffinator
gaijin: * takes him months to do this *
rulo: * takes 2 minutes ))) *
Hey well done! You got the joke!
worst desperate for top votes meme format
I Belive That This M8 Is Just A Beginner In Memes He Wasn't Desperate For Likes Comrades Calm Down
@@NatCo-Supremacist sorry ceo of memes but I'm not someone who spends 24 hours a day behind a screen
@@OldinaryChimera Yes you are, only people who use too much internet think this format is funny and worth posting, L
gaijin: he knows too much we have to silence him
Someone is going to fall down the stairs...
@@Inguizo23 or fly out of a window
@@Inguizo23 ayo the pizza here
I don’t know if I will laugh or cry if the tech tree ends up being the mock one made
It likely won't include planes like the cr 714 since we only had a couple and removed them almost immediatly because they were terrible oh never mind we already have war thunder stuff like the premium fokker d21 which is actually a one-off prototype registration FR-76 the first fokker d21 of the finnish airforce and the only one ever with wing cannons. I felt the need to rant.
The real one (on the Dev server) isn't even this good because its only a few oddly picked vehicles that are just copy-pastes with new skins.
@@obsidianjane4413 Really? Some of them should certainly be different. For example, the brewster should be much lighter than the US ones since it doesn't have navy gear on it.
New Nation? Thats a good one, Rulo. It's not even a new nation. It's being shoved right into an existing nation :^D
Honestly wouldn’t mind a Scandinavian tech tree with Sweden, Norway, finland, and ….. Denmark
@@Vibakari Thats a good idea
@@Vibakari not a bad idea but Finland isn't Scandinavian
@@Orixly Yeah, you're right, its just in Scandinavia
Sad finnish noises
I guess you can say they ‘Finnished’ it quickly.
Sweden literally the strongest tech tree at top tier considering now it has both modern Russian and German vehicles like Leo 2 and T-72's
It has an ass CAS options. Mig27 and ka52 what makes russia what it is.
@@killthemall55 Im not playing my tank game to play planes mate
@@lordmilchreis1885 good for you then. I was referring to tofu claiming swe as strongest tree which is factually not the case. You need strong cas to be considered good tree let alone strongest.
@@lordmilchreis1885 unfortunatly realistic tank battles seems that we are playing air mode...planes, helis and drones....
@@killthemall55 America America, God shed His grace on thee
now imagine this:
There are people unironically defending gaijin and trying to cope and excuse their behavior
I'm afraid at this rate, the better option would be to stop playing their game en masse, focus on GHPC and other, more realistic games, until they're forced to do what we need them to do.
Yeah like ''Last update was a month ago , you can't expect them to make something great in a month'' okay first off last update was shit this one's even shittier and it's the one for the 10th anniversary (unofficially but they could have banked on that and made a true update not a copy paste BS update where everyone gets Soviet stuff but they don't)
already did, but insted i went to play different gams
Meanwhile I'm happy to see the fuso, it just means we're 1 step closer to seeing ships like the Yamato and Iowa.
I'm happy with the AS-42 with the pop gun. It means we're 1 step closer to a Willy's Jeep with a recoilless gun on top.
@@Deuce_and_a_half toyota trucks next?
@@Deuce_and_a_half davy crocket
just play wow at that point honestly
Best patch
we koreans seriously expected korean techtree by the name of 'FIRE AND ICE' and we received it FFS
That would have been dope!
I'm half Korean and I already knew it wasn't gonna be Korean. Simply because of the word ice that and there was already a large popular demand for the Finnish tree because Sweden was added.
I don't think the koreans are gonna be happy being used as a subtree for japan, china or USA
@@sinisterisrandom8537 what large demand? The 10 people who ask for Finland?
@@sincereeastman6972 hey, i'll have you know it's 11
That trailer production probably took longer than the update itself lol
You are revealing their secrets, hide yourself, they are going to hire a hitman
Gaijin doing what they do best. Releasing horrible updates that cause the server hamster to die. They rush the updates now instead of making sure everything works properly it's just sad now gaijin only cares about money and not the player base anymore.
(Wow that's alot of likes on something I didn't even finish typing up context being it was only the first 2 sentences)
its ddos attacks tho
@@memer9491 yeah I know but server hamster usually dies after every new update and the games always a buggy mess since most updates are rushed
mate, they got ddosed and your probably one of those people that cry about premium even tho they are not even that bad to fight, you also think they just update the game and not check anything? bro get a life and if you dont like war thunder so much why would u even have a decal like bruh go away will you, they have better moderation than discord, roblox and fortnite or all the games like that, I made an new account and and tried to speedrun to get banned and I got banned in less than 24 hours lmao
@@GHOULZ1500 to be honest some of the updates do feel rather rushed and tend to be plagued with glitches. I'm not saying that it's a bad game exactly ,and yes I know that the DDos do cause most of the lag, I actually often enjoy the game and don't complain. Besides the DDos attacks sometimes after a update there's a lot of lag, but I do praise gaijin for usually fixing the issue quickly. What I'm trying to say in my comment is how over the years it seems like gaijin doesn't listen to the community anymore or at least not as much as they did in say 2016. The point is my comment isn't trying to start arguments or anything just a slight joke about server hamsters and just simply stating my opinion I hope that clears things up a little.
@@memer9491 they deserve it
As a finn I am a bit disappointed Gaijin didn't include any of our more unique vehicles. They only added already existing vehicles that would just make the swedish tech tree stronger.
I think we should wait a bit, they will probably add the unique mods and vehicles over time.
@@विनितकुमार-य5ढ yeah they will
They'll likely add more unique vehicles in later dev servers, or as later updates/events
@@विनितकुमार-य5ढ you mean they are just releasing more unfinished tech trees?
@@legaroojack1251 bery punny XD, I really wish bt 42 is tt not premium or even if it is, it will probably a rank one premium but I fear it might have huge cost due to its popularity.
LMAO I genuinely didn't realize the trailer was showcasing the new Finland tech tree cause all the tanks featured were copy pasted from other nations. I thought it was just a cinematic production for no clear reason to advertise anything. It took me a hot minute even after they put up the Finish flag.
That jump from 2.3 to 9.3 tho.
Don't forget the MOST slept on improvement: a new god damn gamemode.
Also ejection seats
People care too much about vehicles now
There will never be another game mode. If they make another one the wait times for all others will go up. It is counter productive to the bottom line.
If only I wasn't this addicted for not being able to quit this fucking game
Ngl, I wish we got a Korean and Polish tech tree.
how to get likes easily ↑ mention Poland in a good way
That's mire skin for my t72
Sweden is going to be so busted now, 2A6, T-80U and Strv 122 in the same linup
T80U? Finland never used any t80s and sweden only tested the t80s but they lost over the leopard 2
t-72*
@@woly2838 t80 U yes, squadron vehicle
@@mistermyrslok512 I stand corrected, lmao.
@@fishyfish6050 yea but it's in there as a squadron vehicle lol
You forgot the most important step for a war thunder update, ignore all request to fill gaps in the French tech tree with useful and not prototypes vehicles, add a nerfed copy paste tech tree vehicle for France (once or twice a year no more) fix it in 2 years put it at a way higher BR where there is nothing to play it with, refuse to elaborate.
Was expecting poland but got this
Poland's tanks are basically all in the Soviets tree, just slap a Polish flag/symbol on it and you're sorted
@@crl_polishman6597 we need pl-01
@@crl_polishman6597 poland has got more unique tanks than china. Also the air force would be very diverse with it's domestic desings
They should make a update, where they remove one nation
We all know which one deserves that, as it isn't even a real nation in real life.
israel merkavas aint even that cool
@@friendlybadger4823 They should add Bosnia 💯💯😎😎😎☝️☝️☝️☝️
Make it israel and China, while also banning the Chinese from having access to the game.
@@snaketanker I say China just because they get an M8 right off the bat, meanwhile in the US tree you either earned it in an event or bought it in the market.
i love how most of the actual finnish planes are premiums, truly a gaijin move
Remember: Adding unnecessary copy paste to take community attention away from REAL problems of the game is faster than solving the problems themselves.
how is it unnecessary? sweden literally needs the copy paste to fill its shit up literally
@@Bunny-zn7ke pretty sure there are plenty of Swedish vehicles they haven't added that are unique
@@NatCo-Supremacist like what?
@@Bunny-zn7ke unique to the game, not in real life I mean, but I'm too lazy to go check because gaijin is so tiring
@@Bunny-zn7ke check Wiki at least man
thats really true
finally, a youtuber unmarred my copium and complacency
I really waited for finland to be in warthunder so i am happy
me too, idk why everybody is so unhappy, its not entirly copy paste since finland made many field modifications
@@SimplyHero except it is, they're completely copy pastes. name one difference in the "new" copy paste vehicles in the swedish tech tree other than the camo.
Remember this is the 10th anniversary update we are getting, The snail is just fucking pathetic at this point
Is that how the anniversary wt update looks like? 🗿
I’m in it for the BT-42
Giant Russian snail be like: *Write that down write that down*
This is painfully the truth.
Yugoslavian tech tree would have more unique vehicles
Polish, Czech, slovak... BUT NO! THESE HAVE TOO SMALL AMOUNT OF ORIGINAL TANKS AND PLANES, LETS ADD ISRAEL AND FINLAND!
@@materexpolska9924 true and they choose the one country that doesn't have its own defence industry
@@materexpolska9924 i remember saw a dude on reddit who actively begging for czech tree in WT, and he actually made a good tree proposal
@@CT--ym5mn Theres a lot of bois like him who are creating a creative and good trees for Poland, Slovak and interbaltic aswell. Still gaijoob dont see it
@@materexpolska9924 gayjin could make one big Central Europe tech tree with lots of original vehicles. But no, let's give another nation leo 2 and t-80
Sad that it isent a new tree tho.
they are just adding finnish tanks ot other trees.
"In the upcoming War Thunder “Fire and Ice” update, we plan to introduce lineups of Finnish aircraft and ground vehicles as part of the Swedish tech tree!"
i dont want another tiny tech tree full of copy paste like china, better to get one big tree
obv? why would they make it a new standaloen nation..
You are zetaris's successor
These updates are just insulting at this point
You forgot the step where they fix the ghost shell bug (they don't)
They're adding Brotherhood of Nod Nation!?
When only 3 vehicles are New you know the update isn't good, actually its a worst update ever
instead of adding south africa as an independent tech tree, they add finland, which has 95% vehicles already in the game or from other countries.
nice job, snail
Greater than the review quality in this video is Gaijin's creativity in adding "new stuff" to the game. lol
ikr hahaah why even anounce it as an update... if they did it silently no one would even notice xD
Very epic, china 2.0 but lumped into Sweden's tech tree.
10th anniversary update people
As a finnish person im really exited, idc if i already have all the vehicles. I can finally play as finland and not sweden hopefully!
yes same, always wanted MiG-21bis now i can fly MG-130!
L
The last update wasn't much better either for ground vehicles. It had 14 ground vehicles and 6 of those were just magachs. The rest wasn't much better either, with the M36B2 getting added to two more tech trees (something that could've been done with the last update), yet another panther version and a squadron version of the T80. (The list goes on but you get the point)
i dig this energy
not sure what to call it
They Didnt add BT42. Im mad. How else am I supposed to troll M26 Pershings
1 week later *a family member uploads a goodbye video*
My favourites are the addition of a Leo 2A4 and a Vampire. But I'm not sure if Gaijin noticed Sweden already have both of these
But "Bold New Graphics11!1".
Copy and Paste Teaser Update moment
(they put in a copy paste type 10 and kept the armour holes, random bumps when tilting the tank forward and ww2 level gun elevation)
Lmao felt exactly like you did here
Helicopter ATGM Camera zoom and CCIP for M247 Hydra have been bugged for months... this game 🤡
Uninstall then
@@SoggyKatnip Honest to god I will. Probably would be for the best for me ngl
@@TriCop it's either play long enough to become immune to suffering or suffer on the way. Gl :)
@@SoggyKatnip I’ve been playing since 2014 💀
@@TriCop oh dear 🗿
this game sapped all enjoyment from me.
See the thing is I see a ton of people that DONT PLAY SWEDEN getting upset when gaps that needed to be filled are filled. Finland has quite a few unique vehicles as well that they have not added yet.
They could have been filled by something else than what they put
@@princessapplestrach6327 Agreed, the CV9030 and some of the Marksman hybrid tanks would've been cool to see
They should just name the update “Underwhelming”
well as long as I get a BT-42 that will be the only reason to play Finland for me
They will not put bt-42 yet, its the worst update in all times, and i play since 2012
ok but I see a new BF-109 and my energy fighting addiction is hitting hard again.
Chinese tech tree moment
You sure its not going to be a sub tree of Sweden? I mean...they are next door neighbors with Finland, and heh...if you play Hoi4, you got the Northern Lights alliance....
It's not gonna be a New nation their just going to add more véhicule for the sweden tech tree .
still waiting for the new bias russian video compilation gulag flag .avi
With so many tech trees and so many vehicles now they should 100% increase rewards
3 leopard 2A5, 2 of them hulls eats DM53 from 2A6, and there is a T-80U. Sweden is even stronger than Germany now.
maybe they add Panther after some time (new German tank project)
facts. only facts.
i am quite happy that sweden is getting finland but what i actually want is sweden navy
Geijin shitposts are hundred times more quality than this trailer lmao.
Iranian tech tree or even Albanian tech tree would be far more interesting than that
Albania has nothing
Every one of ya let ‘em get away w this too 😌😂
Perfect Video
Huh, reminds of that update from a few years back...what was it called...Shark Week or Something, idk
Based
They just wanted to push out an update for the 10th anniversary, sadly it's really underwhelming because they didn't even try.
Remember when the Chinese tree came out? I called it out for it just being a copy paste tree, and everyone made up the excuse that at top tier there were unique vehicles.
They can't make that same excuse here. This tree is just garbage.
Something is wrong, I can feel it
But there will isn't any Finnish tech tree, just a Tech line in Sweden, like South-Africa in Britain. IDK why they have to add 2 same Vampire in one nation (J 28B, And the new finnish Vampire)
We gotta wait a little longer for Checoslovaquia...
Imma enjoy the new "COPY AND PASTE" update
True, so true!
Copy paste easy money, why not, wallet warriors will buy & grind anyway.
BOI😳
0:27 as a Swede that was really painful to watch
Agree
Copy
Share,
paste...
Whatever, 100% true
But as a finn, i see this as an absolute win.
I think the most annoying thing is the skins being identical apart from the roundel change
omg so true bestie
Well at least we don't have to get bored 3 months streak.
But still........ OOF
Gaijin can put a Brazilian tech tree would not have some new tanks and planes and several tanks that already exist in the game but with different configurations
To be fair, this was much needed for the Sweedish tree. I think it is a welcome addition even if most of it is copy/paste.
its just annoying to play yet realistic tank battles and it feels like arcade
People who think like you need to be pushed out of the way, you're just allowing this game to continue getting worse.
@@NatCo-Supremacist Me?
@@NatCo-Supremacist
Filling in gaps in minor tech trees with existing vehicles is not the ideal situation, but it's better than nothing at all.
@@KayxSy no lol
That’s exactly what u did to try and see what vehicles could have been adddd
Even Poland would have more vehicles than finland, but ofc it is too much work :)
Its hisorically accurate
Still way better than pouring more fuel onto the top tier garbagefire.
I mean, they *are* doing it but they are also adding some low-mid tier stuff along with it so it's actually a good thing.
None of this is good, stop giving them even a shred of leeway
@@NatCo-Supremacist They are pretty nice
For example T-34 and Pz. IV will actually give sweden a good 3.7 lineup so playing SAV will be even more fun.
More planes will alos lead to better lineups, although I hoped that the tech tree Fokker will also have 20mms but it has just four 7mms.
@@Damian-03x3 We all want original designs from each nation, that is impossible for a faux-nation like israel
Fun fact this pitch is about one IFV
That 5% of new vehicles are also extremely annoying to fight and most likely in the wrong BR
well i really thought gaijin will release the poland since they made more equipment
Wasn't the finnish stuff being added to the Swedish one to make a Nordic tech tree? I could have sworn it was.