Build a Low Cost Cable Railing - Part 2 of 2
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Check out this simple, low budget cable railing I built for the back of our house. After renovating our house exterior, the old, wobbly metal & vinyl lattice rail back there had to go. We wanted a clean & simple stainless cable railing, so I built this.
This is Part 2 where I show you how I prepped & stained the wooden posts (with homemade iron acetate wood stain) and installed the aircraft cable railings with low cost, stainless steel hardware. I had some problems cutting the 1/8" thick stainless cable, so I also show a cool little tool I bought that cut it quickly & easily.
Several people have commented that you should use 3" spacing between flexible cables instead of 4" like I used (which is pretty standard spacing for solid railing spindles), so I recommend checking with a local builder or inspector to see what size spacing you need between your cables to meet your local code before starting.
Materials I used for our railing:
The Pylex 10830 44 Post Connector Plates & 13048 Black Steel Post Bases came from:
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The low cost 1/8" 1x19 T316 stainless steel aircraft cable came from Ebay seller: "wilsonbuildingproducts"
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The treated wood & stainless steel hardware (lag screw eyes & turnbuckles) came from Menards:
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Mad props. All of us DIY’rs that suffer through what a pro could do in 1/3 the time, we salute you! I’m thinking of doing something similar. Do you need the top rail?
I love it. It looks fantastic. my only suggestion/concern would be to move the "turn buckles" to the house side. they would less prone to bring accidentally adjusted or having a child's hand cut by that exposed cut wire end. As everything you do, it looks awesome.
Sure, they could easily be put towards the house side if that's a concern. We liked to see them when we looked out the window, so that's why we put them out towards the end. Someone else mentioned flip flopping them every other one, which would be a neat look too.
Great video. Explains things well enough to give people enough confidence to have a go at a DIY. No bloviating nonsense either in your descriptions.
Premade kits and professionals are a huge rip off when it comes to cable rail systems.
The only thing I'm personally not a huge fan of is the turnbuckle length. It's very long.
What I was thinking instead would be to place a "Swivel Eye Double Ended Round Ring Rotating Hoist Eye to Eye Bolt" (Google it) instead of the turnbuckle. Do this on each end of the cable. You might have to grind a bit of the scew eye lag bolts to insert the rotating bolts but that won't matter once it's tight. The double ended swivels are much shorter than turnbuckles, so not nearly as much hardware would be sticking out from the posts and it would swivel so you won't twist/torque your cables. You would tighten the cables by barely inserting the lag bolts into the posts at first on each end post. Then hook your cable up completely to both sides and finish by screwing in your post lag bolts into the wood all the way.
Might be a bit more technique sensitive but I think it would look better and still be cheap.
Pro's charge anywhere from 60.00 to 120.00 per linear foot depending on materials used. So your project would have cost at least 1500.00 if a pro did it. You did it for a few hundred dollars all in, and it was quite simple really when you break it down in these steps.
Awesome video and a really nice result. Can't beat the bang for the buck! A great way to build equity in a home.
To cut the cable: use an angle grinder with a stainless steel disk. Cuts through the cable like a knife through butter.
I agree with ArtisanTony.... most places including where I installed my cable railing you need a max of about 3" between the cables since they will do a "4inch ball test" with your cables under full tension... this is to see if a child's head would be able to pass through.Also... I would not drill straight through the middle posts since you sill have the possibility of drift... you drill half way through each side with a template and meet in the middle... You should see how hard it is on stairway run... OR if you have drill press drill all the holes you need before installing the posts.Nice job!
Great job.
A screw driver would hold the loop instead of using pliers.
Also have you considered wrapping the ends of the wires.
Maybe in tape. Or before assembling them, some shrink wrap.
Just a suggestion.
Great vid - the pallet wood zip tie mat is looking good.
Thanks! I've been surprised with how nice that doormat has held up. I never clear coated it, and although it's seen all kinds of weather, it still looks great and hasn't tried to warp or anything.
I'm so glad I watched this video. I am going to do my railing the same way you did it. Thank you for the instructions. Pure genius.
That's why I made it. I didn't really see any others like this out there and this was something I've wanted to build for a while. I really just wanted to show the basic concept of how it's put together, so keep in mind that different areas may have different building codes. I'd recommend google searching for the city codes in your area to see what restrictions they have in place and maybe get an opinion from a local builder before you start. Someone mentioned earlier in another comment that many railings are supposed to have posts spaced at no more than 42" max and to maybe do a 3" space between cables rather than the normal 4" (because the cable is somewhat flexible compared to wooden spindles.) That's why I'd recommend getting an opinion from a local builder just to see what they'd recommend before starting it yourself.
+MrDiyDork Thank you
Looks awesome! Thanks for doing this
Love your modern style! Great videos! Thanks!
Thanks!
Did you consider the fact that you might get galvanic corrosion due to the different materials you are using? Aluminum touching stainless steel. In a marine environment this would be terrible, but the presence of just rain water can over the years create the conditions for galvanic corrosion.
Bolts at the bottom... Cut them down and put acorn nuts on them. Paint them black as you did before. Gives it a more finished look.
+El Rayo X That's a great idea. I was was considering cutting them down, but I
didn't think about the acorn nuts. That sounds like a great solution.
great advice, hopefully some will remember to cut them down with the jam nut still on, backing off that nut will clean up the threads.
You should of put the turn buckles on the house side.
looks good.
Hey Kevin! Great stuff first of all! I’m thinking of using this idea to make a whole fence around my house. I’m in between that or a split rail fence with wiring (keep dog in) any thoughts on either/both?
In the video, did you apply, to the posts, the clear stain before your homemade decking stain?
4" grinder with cutoff wheel …cut cable with minimal fraying !
Yep that''s another nice & quick way to do it. I kept it simple in case someone out there didn't have a grinder.
This will also cut down your anchor bolts.
Great job, what stain did you use?
GREAT JOB!!! A good addition to this, would be to use shrink wrap on the ferrule ends. A good heavy duty type. Those cut ends can be really sharp for a child or pet.
Hey there, my hubby and I are doing our deck now and putting on the cable. We got the cable from the ebay guy like you recommended. Can I ask you though, how did you bend the cable to make the loop? Hubby is having a very hard time.
Hmm, I wonder if you got more firm 7x7 cable instead of the more flexible 1x19 strand like I used? The cable I used was very flexible and easy to bend.
I keep reading the opposite about the 7x7 and 1x19 cables...that the 1x19 is rigid and not as bendable...then the 7x7 is the one to use when bending? So confused!
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Obvious in hindsight. Thank you for pointing it out before I got started.
I only need 250' of the cable railing but cannot find a smaller than 1000' spool. Is there much difference between the 1x19 and 7x7 ?
Thanks for the insight!
The 1x19 is made of smaller cables, so it's more flexible. The 7x7 would be pretty stiff and hard to work with. I haven't checked the ebay page lately, but the guy I bought from had it available in several different size rolls. You might be able to send him a message and ask if he could cut a custom size roll for you too.
Nicely done. Thanks too, for leaving the comments which offer practical advice, like spacing the holes 3" apart for safety's sake. I want to add a rail to a curved patio. Perhaps with this method and another's video on making a curved rail (ruclips.net/video/sgr8j15JP2U/видео.html), I think I can do this myself. Thanks again!
Just saying ... any boat guy will tell you when you join aluminum and stainless you may well get an electrolysis which results in like a rust coloured brown stain ..
Are these turnbuckles aluminum?
They are aluminum (middle) and stainless (outer bolts)
Thank you! It looks like you did this a while ago. Any rust or performance issues since installing?
The package says Lifetime Guarantee so you are set!
Hopefully they honor it for wear and tear and not just manufacturer's defects or whatever. lol
Because code requires no more than a four inch opening you need to space your cables every 3 inches. At four inches you can pass a 4 inch ball through the cables when they flex. Just sayin'.
You could use a single piece of cable and thread it through all eyeholes. front and back turnbuckles and you done. Overbuilt and ignoring the obvious
Nice video. If you ever have to do another one in the future, check out e-rigging.com. I've used them twice for decks I've done and they're always the best price for T316 marine-grade cable. Boatloads of components for sale too.
Looking good. Only thing id do different with the cable in your situation is id put the tensioning side towards the house i think it would look cleaner.
here is the cable on amazon www.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-Cable-Railing-500-Foot/dp/B013HN317A
Awesome. Looks like he's selling on Amazon as well. That's a good price for 500 ft.
The ebay shop appears to be closed. Thanks for the Amazon link.
4" spacing will not pass inspection. Manufacturers recommend 3" to allow deflection and still meet code which is 4' max.
Finally see the final work here in part2 . It looks good for a low budget project. It will save you a bunch of money to do it yourself.
We have installed lots of projects as cable railing supplier of 20 years , happy to discuss if you guys have any questions.
hi , would you recommand galvanized or stainless steel terminal for outdoor railing ? And where can I buy all these special terminal?
@@jamesl2188 I would recommand stainless steel for most outdoor railing. You could buy it on amazon www.amazon.com/stores/page/DA11B4C9-665B-41F0-9D1E-2B57E6DFF98A?channel=ytds_cr
Those are NOT proper crimpers. This railing is a safety railing. Crimping with an improper crimper seriously degrades the strength of the crimp and could result in a failure and liability issues. Check out NicoPress for crimpers to use with compression sleeves and be sure the proper crimper is used for whatever model sleeve you use. And tested with a guage after each crimp.
Could you tell me where can I buy all these stuff ?
Thank you for posting this video! I was able to do my back porch railing and would have never done it if you hadn’t posted this video
Looks great! Nice idea. I'm going to do something similar for my banister upstairs in my attic bungalow. But I won't need to use the tightening adjusters. I have freedom of moving railing to tighten cable.
Thank you for this video. I guess I would have put the turnbuckles on the other end...and used a cut off wheel on a grinder to cut the excess cable ends. (they tend to snag clothing and skin, lol)
I love this idea.. and I think I will follow for the inside of my house. my one concern is, where you cut the cable.. is that pointy/sharp? I have 2 dogs and 2 young children, is that going to be an issue?
Nick Pooler Home Depot sells crimp-on cable ends.
You are good at these videos. Def following this.
Congratulations! It looks great. I like the turnbuckle thing, it looks industrial like you said. I am really impressed. Thanks for sharing all the road blocks especially. I am a new homeowner and a beginner so that kind of info is really important for me. Thanks so much. Good job.
Thanks! I had to piece together a lot of different blog posts & article snippets while researching how to do this, so I decided to try to make the video as detailed as I could to help anyone else out that's trying to do it too.
I know this video is 5+ years old now but I'll mention that back when I did my own sailboat rigging I cut the cable by first wrapping with electrical tape and then cutting it with a fine (32 TPI) hacksaw blade while holding the cable with Vicegrip pliers. This always made a nice clean cut and it didn't take very long. Thanks for the video!
Shop for Hand Swage rigging fittings. They are very affordable vs the Swageless hardware that most Cable railing kits come with. The cables are usually installed every 3” for code purposes. The code states that a 4” sphere cannot pass though the cable. You can get the “architectural” look for probably the same price as all that “industrial” (clunky) hardware that you used. I understand that you were going for that look, but a lot of us want the more cleaner look so FYI. Your video is very informative.
I agree with everyone else. This is the most useful DIY I have seen. Anyone who is pricing cable railings knows that there is no limit to how much you can spend. This video is saving me a fortune. Thank you.
Wilson Building Products on eBay isn't there any longer.
This is literally exactly what we are doing to our deck! Great video and thank you for the advice on making turns and corners. We were wondering how we could make the turns work out.
a small piece of wire heat shrink over the end of the cable will help with snags and scratches :)
Looks like Wilson building products doesn't exist anymore 🙁
Dude you’re awesome. Loved this video. Thanks for sharing.
oh!! and can you please give me at least an idea of what you spent on just the supplies for the cable railing?
I added it all together a while back, but I don't remember the total anymore. I still need to put together a blog post on all the parts details, but I got everything except the leg brackets and cable from Menards.
Regards your anchor bolts, you can cut them off closer to the curb with an angle grinder and cutoff wheel. Add an extra nut on first, then back it off to clear the threads, then cap the bolt ends with cap nuts.
Hey Kevin,
Great video. The cable supplier no longer on Ebay. Any leads on where he can be found?
The cable still holding up well 2 years later? No rust, stretching, or other issues?
great work. use angle grinder to cut rope
Great video. Does this eBay seller still exist? The link doesn’t work for me :/
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Obvious in hindsight. Thank you for pointing it out before I got started.
I've been looking for a recent solution for this for the past 2 months! Thanks so much for sharing.
You're welcome. I try to make videos that I wish I could have found when I research projects, so I'm glad this one helped you out.
Great video, thanks! 👍👍
Awesome video thanks for sharing all the material info it's much appreciated
Very nice job, thanks for sharing this. If you ever come up with the cable supplier's information would you mind posting it?
I should have more info in the description of this video. I also have a link to a blog post I made that breaks down all my costs and shows where I got everything that should help you out.
MrDiy. Thanks but where is the link to the blog you mention?
I'm curious on why you used both type brackets for mounting the posts. I've seen them and I believe they are designed to be used alone.
I bought them thinking they were designed to be used together. The outer piece that you see seems to be more of a decorative piece that adds some stability.
MrDiyDork - I am considering purchasing the flat type ones you used on the bottom...do they provide enough sturdiness?
How did you secure the cable to the post on the end near the house? Also how is it holding up 1 year later?
Do you like having the turnbuckle at the entrance or if you could do it again would you have the turnbuckles closer to the house?
You could put them there if you wanted. I liked the idea of looking out the window or door and seeing the turnbuckles as a featured detail. It might also be pretty interesting to switch them back & forth on each line for a different look.
Nice job on the video. I was thinking the same thing. Wondered if having the rough cut ends of the cable near the top of the stairs, that someone might catch their hand on it, but I guess you have the same issue at both ends.
oh my god you are a lifesaver!!!!!!!! my contractor bailed on me and I so desperately need to find a way to get my stair railing way done by myself on a very small budget (but preferably in a modern sleek way-no balusters/typical railings please)! and I really wanted to do cable railing but WOW they are super pricey!!! (you weren't kidding). ..so seriously THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS!!!! I'm taking measurements today and buying all of my supplies tomorrow. I am so excited to see it all come together!!! 😀 your railing looks awesome btw!!!! I actually like the more industrial look, as well.
Thanks! Yeah, I had some sticker shock when I saw how much the pre-made kits cost. This was a 'lil bit more than the usual wood spindle type railing, but much less than those kits. I'd also recommend spacing the cables at 3" to play it safe (instead of 4" like I did.) I had someone send me pictures of the railing they built after watching this video, and they put the wood rail along the bottom like I suggested at the end. It looked great, and now I kinda wish I went that direction on ours! :)
Great job, DIY DORK! I really like your ingenuity and your attention to detail. Would you consider finishing the concrete with a wash or epoxy coating to dress it up, as the concrete is outclassed by your handrail system? Also, are you going to install handrails going down to the basement entrance?
This is so awesome. You explain things so well. I am going to be attempting this soon...thanks to your video! I watched a video that had the quick-connect fittings and thought they were so cool....until I priced them. Thank you!!!
Great presentation plan to look at system for bay front property.
Is there a way to get rid of the ends of the wire? I want to use similar material for livestock (but coated) and that seems like a hazard
I saw a suggestion of using a second crimp to cover ends
hubby and I love your video and are getting ready to do this on our deck. Using the 4X4 posts, fascia mounted. I wanted to check with you now that some times has passed, to see how the cables are holding up, and if you are experiencing any bowing of the wooden posts from the pressure of the cables pulling on them.
Everything is holding up just fine. I haven't noticed any bowing or anything like that.
awesome videos. i get the sense that you are really trying to share your knowledge and experiences.
couldn't you have gotten away with out using the 7" turnbuckles? why not just use the eye hooks to tighten the cable? screw the eye hook in leaving a inch of tread showing, crimp the cable on the eye hook, and then finish screwing the eye hook? that should make the cables be plenty tight
I've seen someone else mention that, but it didn't really cross my mind when I was building it. It probably wouldn't quite have the same amount of length for extra tension, but it sounds like it could work. It would look clean too.
Thanks, great tutorial!
Any ideas on how to do a corner with the wire? I have 10'x16' deck that I would like to do it but I'm hung up on how to do the corner on a continuous run.
For a continuous run, I've seen people mount two posts at a deck corner with the two post corners touching or nearly touching, and then the wire runs straight through each post and makes a 45* turn in between. Kind of hard to explain, but do a Google search and you'll probably see a few pictures like that. You could also just end the run at corners and start with new hardware if you want to spend the money.
Great job Kevin as usual! The inner walls of the concrete I think would look really good against the house in a very dark grey, it would create a shadow look and just look like a void. I believe decking stain works particularly well on concrete from what I have heard. Thanks for the tutorial.
Thanks. Yeah, that concrete is from the early 70s and looks terrible now. I actually had to wire brush some old caulk off the top, so that's why it looks brighter than the rest of it. Painting it in the deep shadow color could be a pretty cool idea.
MrDiyDork, do you need to use the turn buckle? Could you just ferrule the cable to the screw eye at a predetermined length and then screw in the screw eye to tighten? Thanks!
Hmm, I'm not sure. I'm not sure I've ever seen it done that way. I think it would be a bit tougher to keep tension on it as the railing moves & expands or contracts over time.
Best DIY demo ever! I enjoyed you sharing the trial and errors of your project. That will save us time and money. Thank you!
how much did you spend overall?
+Levi Soriano I'm putting a blog post together with all the details and I'll include that in there as well. I'll have it up as soon as I can.
Nice job. I would top the ends with wire shrink wrap because kids like to run their hands along the cable and catch their hands on the cut tips.
That's a good idea.
The post op video with all the stuff you learned was INVALUABLE!! Thank you for taking the time to do a kick butt video
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I probably would have alternated every other end with the turnbuckles to cut the hardware density in half on the front end.
+CrackyMcZap That would look pretty cool too!
Look up Felco c7 or Pedro's cable cutter. They work perfect all the way to 3/16 cable
Thanks for the tip!
Great Job- Thanks for sharing. Built a small landing area and installing this identical way around it and up the stair side rails. Thanks for all the tips! Will be staining and installing cable this week! 🙂
Sounds like a great project! You're welcome.
You need proper wire cutter so they don't fray
Thank you so much! You just saved me a small fortune! Great presentation and information.
Very cool end result! You are such a hard worker!
Never drill through your top rail, you open it up to rot and water damage. Great job otherwise though.
Yeah, that's something I wouldn't do again on the next rail I make. So far it's holding up fine, but if it ever goes bad, it's simple enough to pull off and remake with another piece.
Wait, before you had a cat, after you don't. Was that part of "home improvement" too?
The cat hung out at the house when we bought it. He belonged to some neighbors across the street. They moved a while back, so he's gone now.
nice work, I can see where as a deck railing it would make it much easier to enjoy a view from chairs too.
+Doug Brown Yeah, these would definitely open up the view.
*_Awesome video! I like it_*
Was quoted $9000 for cable rail for my 20 X 29 deck and stairs....found your video and can't thank you enough!!! With posts and top rail along with all parts you clearly explained I spent under $1500!!! Would love to post a couple photos here but don't know how. I would have never had the guts to go ahead with my project if it wasn't for your very detailed video. Thank you!
Wow! Glad to help you save so much money! You could post some pics over on my Facebook page if you wanted. There should be a link to it in the description of this video.
Great tutorial. Looking forward to trying this at home. Always appreciate the additional tips and suggestions in your videos.
Thanks! It turned out to be a fairly simple project.
This is amazing I'm gonna follow your method for my deck project
What was the overall price?
great video, thanks
Did you use Pressure threaded Post?
HI again, can you post a link to the blog about the cable railing, thanks!
I have a link to it in the description of this video.
Thank you for the great video! It is very helpful!
Stealing you DIY!!!!!!!!!
Did this yesterday. Worked out awesome! Thank you for your video!
Awesome! Glad it worked out for you! You're welcome.
Love it great job