If you earn $50M a year yet spend $55M, you're essentially broke. Even if their wealth/income source was legitimate, their lifestyle was simply unsustainable. I mean, come on...was Tom going to continue to work into his late 80's or 90's? There is NO way Erika is a victim in any of this. She is, always has been, aggressive, hostile, outspoken, cool, calm and collected and now she portrays herself as being the abused, manipulated and submissive housewife? Yeah...I'm not buying it.
Actually when you watch the first season she appears, her man is treating her bad. During dinners snapping at her and she instantly gets quiet/submissive/nervous. Around him she wasn’t like she was around the girls. But of course she is smart and knew what was going on. Their lifestyle for a layer was insane!
@@AgnesParn oMG please stop making her seem abuse just bc she was meek. She just couldn’t act like an asshole vs acting like a calm human being. She’s a deadbeat mother who bragged abt hitting on him. She bragged abt her money “30k a month for her glam squad.”
It’s so strange how over the last decade it seems normal to be amoral. Am I old fashioned for not wanting harm to come to my fellow human beings? Is total apathy the direction we want our society to go in?
which means something has got to happen to swing the pendulum back the other way cause it is too imbalanced for a society. This society has a sickness now. The do as thou wilt has gone too far.
this is exactly how I been feelin .. it really does need a shift because it feels like its getting worse. We do seem to be rewarding this behavior and then actually shaming or mocking those with values..
This is part of the “Greed is good”culture from the Michael Douglas film Wall Street 😱🤑 Flaunting material wealth is like Idolatry in the Old Testament. Bernie 😡 Madoff and so many others. Made-Off is what Bernie did. Perfect moniker!
The times are changing for the worse. I am with you, feel the same way. But I am 61 and am seeing people becoming more superficial, less empathetic. Hope I don't live to be too old. This is making me really sad.
This is the season where we really needed Camille. She's not afraid of Erika and she would have asked those tough questions and held her accountable like she did to Dorit.
Camille would have asked some good questions like Garcelle. And I believe she would have done that in reference to how poorly she treated LVP during and after the show.
Half the cast need to go, i want proper classy housewiives back like LVP, camile, can you imagin if bethany frankel came back on the scene, as a guest, she definatley would say it as it is
I’m an attorney. I always thought it was too much . But I figured he had investments, properties , other sources of income. I get he gets huge settlements but he also spends millions to fight those cases. The law does not make you wealthy. Very few can become rich or very well off but not wealthy. Her lifestyle always seemed fishy to me
I thought that personal injury attorneys might be the exception, but I guess not. I just don't understand how he thought he could get away with not giving his clients their settlement money. It defies common sense. Do you think he thought he could eventually make enough to pay it all back? That's how a lot of embezzlers start, thinking of it as a 'loan', then they get in over their heads.
I am a lawyer as well and you are so right. I recall mentioning all this about two years ago. I assumed he was representing vulnerable, unsavvy people who did not read the fine print in their contracts, giving him the lion's share of any settlement or award.
That’s exactly what I thought. I work in a large Canadian law firm and lawyers there do NOT amass this type of wealth so I have always smelled a rat here.
I would call robbing a burn victim an act of violence regardless of how the robbing took place. This was a treat to watch, like a 20 min beach read with "to the guillotines!" in it!
Chelsea's rants are actually amazing video essays. Providing multiple perspectives for seemingly dramatic and unimportant social media events. This issue in particular definitely deserved to be analyzed through the framework of intersectionality.
Erica left her child behind when she moved to LA to pursue her career. We must remember that a man with a briefcase can steal more than a man with a gun.
I think finding that out was the nail in the coffin to subscribing to the housewife content anymore. She chose glam instead of being a mother... :/ Andy endorses it ofc and Lisa Vanderpump I cant respect for talking about empowerment with a show about endless drama between women intentionally hurting eachother. I'm glad its gone and I no longer have to stomach it.. I get the addiction of reality shows but I'm so happy its no longer apart of my life.
Am I the only one who has never watched a single episode of any Real Housewives show? I've never heard of this woman, but she seems like a Real Piece of Work.
What's scary is that had it not been for Erika's flashy lifestyle, Tom may have gotten away with it. Makes you wonder how many other lawyers like him are out there.
No lawyer could do what he did without having judges (even the whole system) in his pocket. He made money for others, otherwise get wouldn't be that rich!!! The legal system is essentially disgusting. The corporations they sue are probably in on it too. It's all smoke and mirrors.
I'd argue that the fact that he was able to maintain a pristine legal license (officially anyway) and even played a role in advising a half dozen California governor's judicial picks for decades even with all of this going on, is a MUCH bigger scandal than the embezzlement itself.
I remember on the show when Tom presented Erika with a “gift” of a VERY expensive painting. This was him/them transferring money out of the reach of the law.
Classic money laundering move. It's a classic (but legal) tax evasion move too - when you buy overpriced artwork and then "donate" the piece to a museum, you get a tax write-off for the donation based on the art piece's value. It's why so many wealthy "patrons" donate expensive art to museums - to offset their income for tax purposes!
As someone who's watched RHOBH since the beginning I've never thought her relationship with Tom was sweet lol! Because I know what verbal abuse sounds like, I'm also not fooled by the current narrative that they're trying to create... and I don't think long time viewers are either.. there's too many things that don't add up and I think the other women are just trying to stay quiet about it because of how high profile the case is. I also don't blame Sutton for choosing to separate herself from Erika
“she was the victim….”???? At what stage has Erika ever come across as the poor little wife who allows others to manipulate her, influence her or even speak over her? Or make her do anything she did not want to do. That goes totally against anything she has portrayed herself to be, or what we have seen she is like
She rode the money train until it crashed and she (too late) realized she forgot to put her own seatbelt on. It was all good until it wasn’t and when the possibility of losing it all and facing prison the finger pointing and narratives to evade responsibility in any way ensues. So predictable.
Your take on Erika is the best I've seen so far. Girl, you went there! In the funniest and most factual way by not glossing over her life as a lot of people did. I enjoyed this so much!
Not surprised this happened to Ericka , she gave me Teresa Giudice vibes. I could never understand how she was so wealthy, when no one had ever heard of her ......now we know!
One of the firm's employees claims that Erica was actually Tom's business partner. The case proceeds were transferred to her business account to spend while he allegedly took loans using the proceeds as collateral to finance business operations. I stopped watching all of these shows due to pure disgust of the women and support for the victims.
Don’t worry, Sutton is going to get ganged up on for calling out Erika Jayne. Luckily, history and the facts are on Sutton’s side. Shame on the rest of the cast!
I've seen the clip of EJ turning on Sutton next week, her face looks so nasty and evil, it makes it easy to see that she is desperate to fight for the money she has stolen (she may not have known all the details but she knew enough!) And her choice of drink "no apologies" at rinnas lip lunch says it all. She will NEVER apologise to the victims who have funded her obscene lifestyle
But they all have to stand by her because if they don't, they are forced to look at themselves. Money clearly doesn't buy good mental health. Peace, Comfort or joy. Certainly doesn't buy dignity or morality. Watching this shit show, showed me this. These women are terrible I'll keep my little home, my happy little union job, my healthy happy family, my new gorgeous grand baby, and my sleeping really good at night. And My Jesus. Keep the cash
I'm REALLY over the dynamic of the OG's on RHOBH. The fabulous five or whatever protect themselves over literally everything. It's cracked a tiny bit this season but if this scandal were happening on Housewives of New Jersey or Atlanta they would not give Erika a break any time that they film.
Just to clarify even though she lies and calls herself a "single mom" she left her 3year old in New York with his dad who raised his and she went to la to "chase her dreams" aka marry rich in la and stayed there so she did have a son but she didn't raise him and he wasnt with her.
@@joelchesters4184 they didn't I didn't read the her book but I know shes wrote in that and in said on interviews herself she made left and made the dad raise him but she says she visited him sometimes but she did not raise him and she stayed in la when she got married she basically downplays it and deflects like it's not a big deal and never mentions it on the actule show.
@@harriet4564 Maybe the dad was a better parent, and in that case, maybe it was a better arrangement? I think they did have shared custody because she mentions that she would bring her little son to the restaurant where she worked as a waitress and Tom would take off with the boy, having him carry his briefcase. Also, during the summers, her son used to work at Tom's law firm, probably after they were married. Tom and her son apparently got along great.
@@bettywith2girls not saying they dont get along great but they didn't have shared custody it's just blatantly dishonest for her to pretend she was a "single mom" and play that naravtuve though also if a dad said I'm leaving New York to go to la to "chase my dreams" aka marry rich and stay there and say you have to raise the kid you dont have a choice on top on top of of the fact I doubt she was paying child support imagine if a man did that he would called a deadbeat or much worse and dragged but if its women it's ok why the such double standard? The same poeple would will get drag men for doing much less or dont judge if its woman, dont think they should ever be held accountable or being able to spin there own false story it's so hypocritical.
Why am I just now finding this channel??? GREAT video...SO well spoken - you just said everything that I have been feeling about this whole atrocity for weeks! BRAVO and subscribed!
We spent all of last season on Denise potentially having sex with another woman. Erika even wanted Brandi at the reunion. Yet she's so quiet and private about her legal troubles. The other women are scared of her. God I'm so glad Chelsea made a video about this.
Agree. I for one think the Brandi thing was completely made up to get her back on the show. And the other wives were definitely not happy that Denise was the highest paid housewife EVER ($1 million for her first season alone)
I don’t even know if I had ever heard Erika’s name until one of Chelsea’s previous rants. THEN one day I was scrolling through Hulu and saw a documentary about this woman who Chelsea mentioned one time. Decided to see what was up, watched the whole thing and now I’m watching this. Not sure what to do with this knowledge…
I remember on the show when Tom presented Erika with a “gift” of a VERY expensive painting. This was him trying to transfer money away from legal confiscation by not only “gifting” the painting, but memorializing it on camera. Same with the divorce. Same with the claim of diminished capacity. His moves, as always, are a corrupt pattern and practice. Erika is attempting to bolster these assertions on the show.
I think it’s important to take her story with more than just a grain of salt… maybe even consider it with some “shakers” full of salt. She’s lied her whole public life and flaunted grotesque amounts of wealth and privilege as aspirational.
The irony of her lyric “it’s expensive to be me” it seems the facade was very expensive. Her ex and her must’ve not had consciences that kept them from stealing millions from deserving regular people.
50 Million or more stolen and scammed from Burn victims who couldn't even pay their hospital bills, and families of plane crash victims!... (They show no concern for the victims, or for their crimes!👎
@@rosycandyhaven Yes certainly but my dad was an idealist and one of my heroes and it just makes me so sad that 15 percent of the world's population seems to consume the majority of the world's resources. I don't eat meat but if they just ban factory farming it would be a beginning. And yes sometimes there are global issues that wealthier countries have a duty of care to save lives; the Taliban everyday are in genocide mode killing innocent people; sometimes Canadians don't see eye to eye with the US but we too have lost lives of innocent brave young men just trying to establish some kind of safe place in a world we don't have to inhabit and I mourn them. Tx for comment which I appreciated and you are right.
Social studies show that the more money people have, the less empathy they have for fellow human beings. For Harriet on RUclips, did a breakdown of Squid Game, the Netflix show and she nailed it.
Thank you for this, Chelsea. I initially really liked Erika, but this legal mess isn’t pretty and, frankly, grotesque as Bravo reframes the past to fit her victim storyline. And the hair and makeup, as well as the clothes, have gotten completely ridiculous on the Real Housewives (even for Bravo standards).
As a new fan of the RH after watching my wife watch the show. I became more and more interested. On my wife’s suggestion I started watching RHOC and BH from season one. Also she said to watch UGT as to familiarize myself with housewives from other franchises. I’m currently only up to seasons 9 but am now totally addicted to the show. Your content is amazing as it helps me understand and know what my wife is actually talking about as she is obviously totally up to date with OC and BH thank you so much.
Don’t watch any of the “Real Housewives”, don’t know anything about these people, but I love this video, Chelsea. All I can say is that YOU are the real legend! 🤣👍🏻😉
I have never wasted a minute of my life watching these type of shows, or the Kardashians thank goodness. I live in LA and I'm very well acquainted to how fake and absurd some people are. Btw, it has nothing to do with having money, even those who are middle class will do anything to portray themselves as living a lavish and obscenely rich life in order to show off and make others jealous. It seems like a disease that has been only exacerbated by social media platforms. A lot live by "my nuts are bigger than yours" or somewhere along those lines, and will go over dead bodies to keep up the appearances.
The "resources for a rookie performer" is exactly why some artist peak so young. It's more about having money that buys you resources than real talent.
I'm really not sure what Chelsea's reality TV journalism adds to TFD in terms of the financial messaging, but I am so here for extreme sass on shows I have and will never watch!
She was very threatening to other housewives on the tell all who were questioning her. She wasn't just angry. She was threatening. Her manner was not that of any victimized person I've ever seen.
To be fair, when it comes to the evolving narrative of Tom and his and Erika’s relationship, my ex husband was charming and loved treating me And my friends to dinners and he even paid for me to go on girls trips when I couldn’t afford it. I only really started to share the shitty things he did when I decided to leave him. Narcissists or abusers in general have a way of making you feel like you can’t or shouldn’t say anything.
This is something I actually know something about; my father was one of the vr few who made money by accident and developed alzheimers and was completely deserted by the coterie of wealthy people we sort of took for granted but made me feel permanently sad and an outsider because I got the snide in jokes at my Dad's expense and he frankly never noticed born good guy optimist and idealist but yes I grew up noticing everything. My mother was 20 yrs younger and I never thought anything wrong about that they were best friends and survivors. Sorry you lived through that I get it fuckers sorry for bad language. Best wishes will watch the latter half of video later today. I know Dana Petty went through hell being married to Tom Petty because his older daughter would not accept her and ... life's a long song and story not mine to tell she just walked away and good for her!!!!!!. And you best best wishes.
@@christianj5950 it's not a disorder. It just depends on whose perspective you receive. An actual expert on the topic of narcissism (Dr. Ramani) says it is more of a descriptor rather than a sort of legitimate medical diagnosis. It's just a collection of traits and the purpose of identifying them is really to protect yourself rather than to pinpoint an illness
@@christianj5950 Yes I hear you doesn't it depend on a spectrum of behaviour that involves abuse? So you can be a narcissist (I insulted my sister 2 yrs ago calling her a N. but really I was saying she was the centre of her universe to the point other people were supporting characters in her life: we're sisters I was prejudiced and no psychiatrist; she rescues dogs and certainly doesn't do it for general congrats so I left the presentation because obviously something was vr wrong but my own story did not have a man necessarily as the villain; on the contrary. Always admire Chelsea Fagen and get her point of view otherwise.
It’s also SO grating to hear her going ‘boohoo i have to leave the BIG old mansion and move to this smaller, quaint little mansion’ as the new season unfolded. maam a mansion is a MANSION (AND GIVE BACK THE MONEY 😡😡😡) anyway thank u for the housewives content, chelsea!!
Love 💘 your glasses! and hair This situation is crazy. Can't believe how it is all going down. She seems so "powerful" in her portrayal but maybe that comes from her real insecurities with feeling less then from her husband's treatment of her 🤔
I think it is possible Erika left him after learning about all this & it still be a legitimate divorce. If you go into a marriage thinking your spouse is one way, and after 20 years you find out it wasn't all true, I don't see how that isn't grounds for divorce.
She was expecting to be with him until he died so she could inherit everything. When it turned out that all the money was gone, and he was being hit with lawsuits, and he might actually need her to care for him now, she high-tailed it outta there as quick as she could. She moved everything out in one day! And didn't even leave him a note. No wonder he's calling her up confused and asking her to come back!
I love that sex work, gold digging, and being a sugar baby (not the same, btw, dunno if you were trying to connect those directly) are being normalized because it means people will talk about it, its downfalls and how to do it safely. So good job there. My only beef I just have to point out as someone who's been to plenty of strip clubs is there ARE women there who do not strip. There are usually women bartenders and depending on the style often women servers/hostesses, I've even seen a few women in security/bouncing. So nbd but just the cute way it was described here rubbed me wrong, like, just believe a girl didn't strip if she says she didn't at a strip club. I get your just saying that here because she has been otherwise shady, but wanted to point that out.
The part about sex work was the only part I had to side eye (due to her thinly veiled judgement) imo.. but the rest was hilarious and accurate.. then again I know nothing about this Erika woman so who knows lol
Agreed, was just thinking the same thing. The age difference was condemned for itself, in retrospect based on everything else about the two of them, or both?
I saw they added Real Housewives to Netflix. I didn't know what it was, but after the first episode I didn't think it was a show for me! I never liked any reality show such as Keeping up with Kardashian's. It is all just very toxic.
Great analysis. Everything that glitters is not gold. It is so sad that this generation elevating and envying these type of people. If only they know how they can afford their rich lifestyles.
I don't know how much of her husband's business dealings she really knew about. None of us do. This is a channel targeted at women who want to control their own financial security. We have to allow for the belief that there are many many women who don't dig into how their partners get their money, as long as it keeps showing up. Her lifestyle WAS grotesque imo. Also the way I interpreted the Denise Richards issue was Denise sleeping with someone while in a committed monogamous relationship and then trying to deny and kill the story. While appearing on a REALITY TV SHOW!
I do think she was manipulated by her husband. Tom was doing this for 40 years and only married to Erica for 21. I believe when she found out the extent, she left. He could have been the one moving money around and she had no reason to question it as he didn’t tell her alot of things that were going on.
To be honest I barely know anything about my husband's job and I don't care to. My husband already works from home so he is more than happy to not talk about it. I am saying that she probably didn't know much about it and she probably didn't care to know at all.
well when you’re signing documents and accepting payments through your own LLC, you’re responsible for whatever comes with that. (not you in particular, i mean Erika)
If you earn $50M a year yet spend $55M, you're essentially broke. Even if their wealth/income source was legitimate, their lifestyle was simply unsustainable. I mean, come on...was Tom going to continue to work into his late 80's or 90's? There is NO way Erika is a victim in any of this. She is, always has been, aggressive, hostile, outspoken, cool, calm and collected and now she portrays herself as being the abused, manipulated and submissive housewife? Yeah...I'm not buying it.
Actually when you watch the first season she appears, her man is treating her bad. During dinners snapping at her and she instantly gets quiet/submissive/nervous. Around him she wasn’t like she was around the girls. But of course she is smart and knew what was going on. Their lifestyle for a layer was insane!
Yup!
You’re right on girl 👍
You can be all those things (aggressive, hostile, outspoken) and still be abused..
@@AgnesParn oMG please stop making her seem abuse just bc she was meek. She just couldn’t act like an asshole vs acting like a calm human being. She’s a deadbeat mother who bragged abt hitting on him. She bragged abt her money “30k a month for her glam squad.”
This adoration of money and the grotesque spending of it is, in my opinion, a real danger to our society.
look at the lengths people will go
It's always been within society and thankfully most humans don't have access to this level of wealth.
Grotesque is the word for it
It is not a problem if it is your OWN money.
Welcome to America!
The fact that I've never watched The Real Housewives but watch every Chelsea rant 😂😂
same
me too lol
this
Agreed. Never watched the show, but always love the TFD take on current events
I'm glad I'm not the only one. xD
It’s so strange how over the last decade it seems normal to be amoral. Am I old fashioned for not wanting harm to come to my fellow human beings? Is total apathy the direction we want our society to go in?
which means something has got to happen to swing the pendulum back the other way cause it is too imbalanced for a society. This society has a sickness now. The do as thou wilt has gone too far.
this is exactly how I been feelin .. it really does need a shift because it feels like its getting worse. We do seem to be rewarding this behavior and then actually shaming or mocking those with values..
@@rcasey1113 its about to turn around
This is part of the “Greed is good”culture from the Michael Douglas film Wall Street 😱🤑 Flaunting material wealth is like Idolatry in the Old Testament. Bernie 😡 Madoff and so many others. Made-Off is what Bernie did. Perfect moniker!
The times are changing for the worse. I am with you, feel the same way. But I am 61 and am seeing people becoming more superficial, less empathetic. Hope I don't live to be too old. This is making me really sad.
"It's probably because THEY'RE ROBBING BURN VICTIMS!" was awful and hilarious
Facts lol
Also TRUE.
This is the season where we really needed Camille. She's not afraid of Erika and she would have asked those tough questions and held her accountable like she did to Dorit.
I really like Camille, I think she would be a great friend.
Camille would have asked some good questions like Garcelle. And I believe she would have done that in reference to how poorly she treated LVP during and after the show.
Yes!
Camille is a total Narc
Half the cast need to go, i want proper classy housewiives back like LVP, camile, can you imagin if bethany frankel came back on the scene, as a guest, she definatley would say it as it is
"Host, and Satan himself, Andy Cohen" I LOST IT LOOOL
💯 percent agree ‼️
Must be why I enjoy his entertainment. :D
I was looking for this gem in the comments🥂
@@michaelreilly3513 You and me both!
@@maylingchong1107 :)
The whole “I wasn’t a stripper” while still wanting the clout and backstory that comes with being a stripper always annoyed me.
we all know she was a stripper >.
Did she claim to work as a bartender at the strip club or something?
@@clairewillow6475 something like that, or like a server maybe? But she stressed that she was not a stripper
What prestige do strippers get? And even if they get it how could you get it without actually being a stripper 🤔🤣
@@AirQuotes did not use the word prestige, but clout and a backstory on a reality show. Rags to riches
I’m an attorney. I always thought it was too much . But I figured he had investments, properties , other sources of income. I get he gets huge settlements but he also spends millions to fight those cases. The law does not make you wealthy. Very few can become rich or very well off but not wealthy. Her lifestyle always seemed fishy to me
I thought that personal injury attorneys might be the exception, but I guess not. I just don't understand how he thought he could get away with not giving his clients their settlement money. It defies common sense. Do you think he thought he could eventually make enough to pay it all back? That's how a lot of embezzlers start, thinking of it as a 'loan', then they get in over their heads.
i alwasy thought she was way to old to dress like that on a stage.
I am a lawyer as well and you are so right. I recall mentioning all this about two years ago. I assumed he was representing vulnerable, unsavvy people who did not read the fine print in their contracts, giving him the lion's share of any settlement or award.
That’s exactly what I thought. I work in a large Canadian law firm and lawyers there do NOT amass this type of wealth so I have always smelled a rat here.
@@missbiancaleigh100 nope they don’t. In Canada we call PI lawyers ambulance chasers.
I would call robbing a burn victim an act of violence regardless of how the robbing took place. This was a treat to watch, like a 20 min beach read with "to the guillotines!" in it!
Chelsea's rants are actually amazing video essays. Providing multiple perspectives for seemingly dramatic and unimportant social media events. This issue in particular definitely deserved to be analyzed through the framework of intersectionality.
yaaaa!!!
Erica left her child behind when she moved to LA to pursue her career.
We must remember that a man with a briefcase can steal more than a man with a gun.
I think finding that out was the nail in the coffin to subscribing to the housewife content anymore. She chose glam instead of being a mother... :/ Andy endorses it ofc and Lisa Vanderpump I cant respect for talking about empowerment with a show about endless drama between women intentionally hurting eachother. I'm glad its gone and I no longer have to stomach it.. I get the addiction of reality shows but I'm so happy its no longer apart of my life.
Thank you for Articulating everything that I’ve been thinking.
@@Delightedoneee Thank you for your kind acknowledgment.
You must be Italian, bc you just stated facts❗️
@@Israel7375 Si, io sono Italianiano!! ‘Abruzzi’ but born in America 🇺🇸.
what I'm taking from this story: " live with in your means."
"Don't steal from the unfortunate!"
It should be..don't steal-
"¡To the guillotine!", you always make me laugh 😂 😂
"Read the room, lady!" :)
😂😂😂
This clip was FANTASTIC!!!! You called Andy Cohen host and Satan!!! That was so funny I had to pause to gain composure.
Am I the only one who has never watched a single episode of any Real Housewives show? I've never heard of this woman, but she seems like a Real Piece of Work.
Same here ✋
I know her from the SNL parodies
You're not alone
I've never watched any housewives show either.
Never watched any of the housewives shows.
What's scary is that had it not been for Erika's flashy lifestyle, Tom may have gotten away with it.
Makes you wonder how many other lawyers like him are out there.
Her Amex bill in 2019 was 25million. And it was on pure shit. 3 million on a billboard. 10k on a makeup artist in one month. Pure shit
look at politicians previous professions. Mostly lawyers. Put the two and two together.
No lawyer could do what he did without having judges (even the whole system) in his pocket. He made money for others, otherwise get wouldn't be that rich!!! The legal system is essentially disgusting. The corporations they sue are probably in on it too. It's all smoke and mirrors.
I'd argue that the fact that he was able to maintain a pristine legal license (officially anyway) and even played a role in advising a half dozen California governor's judicial picks for decades even with all of this going on, is a MUCH bigger scandal than the embezzlement itself.
That’s usually how these people fall
I remember on the show when Tom presented Erika with a “gift” of a VERY expensive painting. This was him/them transferring money out of the reach of the law.
Not just any painting. A Chagall painting. Those start at around $40 million.
Many women are traditionally given movable goods that can be hidden or resold.
@@ah5721 remember the Shawshank redemption? That’s a classic example
Classic money laundering move. It's a classic (but legal) tax evasion move too - when you buy overpriced artwork and then "donate" the piece to a museum, you get a tax write-off for the donation based on the art piece's value. It's why so many wealthy "patrons" donate expensive art to museums - to offset their income for tax purposes!
@@kingofthorns203 I never watched it so idk 🤷♀️
As someone who's watched RHOBH since the beginning I've never thought her relationship with Tom was sweet lol! Because I know what verbal abuse sounds like, I'm also not fooled by the current narrative that they're trying to create... and I don't think long time viewers are either.. there's too many things that don't add up and I think the other women are just trying to stay quiet about it because of how high profile the case is. I also don't blame Sutton for choosing to separate herself from Erika
I agree, Erika was cold and stoic now suddenly a whinning cry baby. Not buying it, she had to have known, she's just trying to run now
“she was the victim….”???? At what stage has Erika ever come across as the poor little wife who allows others to manipulate her, influence her or even speak over her? Or make her do anything she did not want to do. That goes totally against anything she has portrayed herself to be, or what we have seen she is like
She rode the money train until it crashed and she (too late) realized she forgot to put her own seatbelt on. It was all good until it wasn’t and when the possibility of losing it all and facing prison the finger pointing and narratives to evade responsibility in any way ensues. So predictable.
Wow! Spot on!
Prepare as you go along.
Well said.
Your take on Erika is the best I've seen so far. Girl, you went there! In the funniest and most factual way by not glossing over her life as a lot of people did. I enjoyed this so much!
Anyone who calls Andy Cohen Satan is a friend of mine
I don’t even watch the real housewives series. I just enjoy Chelsea ranting.
same
I haven't either. I don't have a TV
Not surprised this happened to Ericka , she gave me Teresa Giudice vibes. I could never understand how she was so wealthy, when no one had ever heard of her ......now we know!
At least after Threasa got out of prison she seemed to have some humilty about her, erica has not shown one tiny bit.
🙄 also, Kyle's husband was doing real estate scams. / They were hard on Teresa.., Erica is lying and spinning her own false narrative.
Very wealthy people aren't actually famous. And they don't usually like attention.
One of the firm's employees claims that Erica was actually Tom's business partner. The case proceeds were transferred to her business account to spend while he allegedly took loans using the proceeds as collateral to finance business operations. I stopped watching all of these shows due to pure disgust of the women and support for the victims.
Don’t worry, Sutton is going to get ganged up on for calling out Erika Jayne. Luckily, history and the facts are on Sutton’s side. Shame on the rest of the cast!
I've seen the clip of EJ turning on Sutton next week, her face looks so nasty and evil, it makes it easy to see that she is desperate to fight for the money she has stolen (she may not have known all the details but she knew enough!) And her choice of drink "no apologies" at rinnas lip lunch says it all. She will NEVER apologise to the victims who have funded her obscene lifestyle
But they all have to stand by her because if they don't, they are forced to look at themselves.
Money clearly doesn't buy good mental health.
Peace,
Comfort or joy.
Certainly doesn't buy dignity or morality.
Watching this shit show, showed me this.
These women are terrible
I'll keep my little home, my happy little union job, my healthy happy family, my new gorgeous grand baby, and my sleeping really good at night.
And My Jesus.
Keep the cash
I'm REALLY over the dynamic of the OG's on RHOBH. The fabulous five or whatever protect themselves over literally everything. It's cracked a tiny bit this season but if this scandal were happening on Housewives of New Jersey or Atlanta they would not give Erika a break any time that they film.
I wasn't sure about this video until Andy Cohen was referred to as "Satan himself"
We love to see it.
Just to clarify even though she lies and calls herself a "single mom" she left her 3year old in New York with his dad who raised his and she went to la to "chase her dreams" aka marry rich in la and stayed there so she did have a son but she didn't raise him and he wasnt with her.
Really???? That really is tea
Ok but I think they shared custody sometimes but don’t quote me
@@joelchesters4184 they didn't I didn't read the her book but I know shes wrote in that and in said on interviews herself she made left and made the dad raise him but she says she visited him sometimes but she did not raise him and she stayed in la when she got married she basically downplays it and deflects like it's not a big deal and never mentions it on the actule show.
@@harriet4564 Maybe the dad was a better parent, and in that case, maybe it was a better arrangement? I think they did have shared custody because she mentions that she would bring her little son to the restaurant where she worked as a waitress and Tom would take off with the boy, having him carry his briefcase. Also, during the summers, her son used to work at Tom's law firm, probably after they were married. Tom and her son apparently got along great.
@@bettywith2girls not saying they dont get along great but they didn't have shared custody it's just blatantly dishonest for her to pretend she was a "single mom" and play that naravtuve though also if a dad said I'm leaving New York to go to la to "chase my dreams" aka marry rich and stay there and say you have to raise the kid you dont have a choice on top on top of of the fact I doubt she was paying child support imagine if a man did that he would called a deadbeat or much worse and dragged but if its women it's ok why the such double standard? The same poeple would will get drag men for doing much less or dont judge if its woman, dont think they should ever be held accountable or being able to spin there own false story it's so hypocritical.
Why am I just now finding this channel??? GREAT video...SO well spoken - you just said everything that I have been feeling about this whole atrocity for weeks! BRAVO and subscribed!
"Satan himself, Andy Cohen" 😂😂😂 I had to rewind that part three times to make sure that I'd heard that right.
Makes for a great episode of 'American Greed'. 💰
I love that show!!!
Love that show! And she is right, it would.
You had me at a group of 12 women, SIS Thank you for your team's work
“Host and Santa himself”. 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am glad i’m not the only one who thinks this way.
We spent all of last season on Denise potentially having sex with another woman. Erika even wanted Brandi at the reunion. Yet she's so quiet and private about her legal troubles. The other women are scared of her. God I'm so glad Chelsea made a video about this.
I'm sick of hearing her name
Agree. I for one think the Brandi thing was completely made up to get her back on the show. And the other wives were definitely not happy that Denise was the highest paid housewife EVER ($1 million for her first season alone)
I don’t even know if I had ever heard Erika’s name until one of Chelsea’s previous rants. THEN one day I was scrolling through Hulu and saw a documentary about this woman who Chelsea mentioned one time. Decided to see what was up, watched the whole thing and now I’m watching this. Not sure what to do with this knowledge…
I remember on the show when Tom presented Erika with a “gift” of a VERY expensive painting. This was him trying to transfer money away from legal confiscation by not only “gifting” the painting, but memorializing it on camera. Same with the divorce. Same with the claim of diminished capacity. His moves, as always, are a corrupt pattern and practice. Erika is attempting to bolster these assertions on the show.
Not just any painting; a Chagall. His stuff is up there with Picasso; the $40 million range
I think it’s important to take her story with more than just a grain of salt… maybe even consider it with some “shakers” full of salt. She’s lied her whole public life and flaunted grotesque amounts of wealth and privilege as aspirational.
The irony of her lyric “it’s expensive to be me” it seems the facade was very expensive. Her ex and her must’ve not had consciences that kept them from stealing millions from deserving regular people.
didn't get that far; is that a gender issue or just a broader question of the ills of Western society run amok? Just asking.
50 Million or more stolen and scammed from Burn victims who couldn't even pay their hospital bills, and families of plane crash victims!... (They show no concern for the victims, or for their crimes!👎
@@evelynbaron8357 Greed and corruption are a worldwide issue not just confined to the west.
@@rosycandyhaven Yes certainly but my dad was an idealist and one of my heroes and it just makes me so sad that 15 percent of the world's population seems to consume the majority of the world's resources. I don't eat meat but if they just ban factory farming it would be a beginning. And yes sometimes there are global issues that wealthier countries have a duty of care to save lives; the Taliban everyday are in genocide mode killing innocent people; sometimes Canadians don't see eye to eye with the US but we too have lost lives of innocent brave young men just trying to establish some kind of safe place in a world we don't have to inhabit and I mourn them. Tx for comment which I appreciated and you are right.
Social studies show that the more money people have, the less empathy they have for fellow human beings. For Harriet on RUclips, did a breakdown of Squid Game, the Netflix show and she nailed it.
You covered this issue immaculately, I learned and appreciate this discussion -thank you
i love these rants even though i don’t watch the real housewives! we need more rants from chelsea 😂❤️
This is very topical! I enjoyed watching this video
Never heard of Erika Jayne but I'm always here for a good TFD breakdown.
Thank you for this, Chelsea. I initially really liked Erika, but this legal mess isn’t pretty and, frankly, grotesque as Bravo reframes the past to fit her victim storyline. And the hair and makeup, as well as the clothes, have gotten completely ridiculous on the Real Housewives (even for Bravo standards).
"Host and Satan himself" 😂
OMG, Chelsea, your hair looks so good!
As a new fan of the RH after watching my wife watch the show. I became more and more interested. On my wife’s suggestion I started watching RHOC and BH from season one. Also she said to watch UGT as to familiarize myself with housewives from other franchises. I’m currently only up to seasons 9 but am now totally addicted to the show.
Your content is amazing as it helps me understand and know what my wife is actually talking about as she is obviously totally up to date with OC and BH thank you so much.
Don’t watch any of the “Real Housewives”, don’t know anything about these people, but I love this video, Chelsea. All I can say is that YOU are the real legend! 🤣👍🏻😉
Life lesson: Most times, when you see people spending money lavishly, it's usually someone else's hard earned money being spent.
Thank you Chelsea for the great narrative on the conspicuous consumption glorified by Bravo that will ultimately be her and others downfall.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO IVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS SHOW BUT THE CLOSING 4 MINUTES IS SO IMPORTANT !
Love all your videos but, I just want to know where you got your glasses. So cute!
The episode I didn't know I needed
And they still expect us to believe in Trickle Down Economics 😪
Right! The f-ing nerve. Lol
I've never watched The Real Housewives and I'll never will. 😂😂
I have never wasted a minute of my life watching these type of shows, or the Kardashians thank goodness. I live in LA and I'm very well acquainted to how fake and absurd some people are. Btw, it has nothing to do with having money, even those who are middle class will do anything to portray themselves as living a lavish and obscenely rich life in order to show off and make others jealous. It seems like a disease that has been only exacerbated by social media platforms. A lot live by "my nuts are bigger than yours" or somewhere along those lines, and will go over dead bodies to keep up the appearances.
" Hashtag no judgement" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Erika needs a hard factory reset. That conscience is buggy af.
The "resources for a rookie performer" is exactly why some artist peak so young. It's more about having money that buys you resources than real talent.
I'm really not sure what Chelsea's reality TV journalism adds to TFD in terms of the financial messaging, but I am so here for extreme sass on shows I have and will never watch!
Happy to have found your channel. Strong and valid insights spoken with good humour and articulation are a pleasure to watch. Good on YOU !
She was very threatening to other housewives on the tell all who were questioning her. She wasn't just angry. She was threatening. Her manner was not that of any victimized person I've ever seen.
super refreshing it is your approach to the subject!
To be fair, when it comes to the evolving narrative of Tom and his and Erika’s relationship, my ex husband was charming and loved treating me And my friends to dinners and he even paid for me to go on girls trips when I couldn’t afford it. I only really started to share the shitty things he did when I decided to leave him. Narcissists or abusers in general have a way of making you feel like you can’t or shouldn’t say anything.
He can be a narc, that doesn’t mean she should spend burn victims money.
This is something I actually know something about; my father was one of the vr few who made money by accident and developed alzheimers and was completely deserted by the coterie of wealthy people we sort of took for granted but made me feel permanently sad and an outsider because I got the snide in jokes at my Dad's expense and he frankly never noticed born good guy optimist and idealist but yes I grew up noticing everything. My mother was 20 yrs younger and I never thought anything wrong about that they were best friends and survivors. Sorry you lived through that I get it fuckers sorry for bad language. Best wishes will watch the latter half of video later today. I know Dana Petty went through hell being married to Tom Petty because his older daughter would not accept her and ... life's a long song and story not mine to tell she just walked away and good for her!!!!!!. And you best best wishes.
Narcissist doesn't mean abuser, its just become popular to call people a psychological diagnosis.
@@christianj5950 it's not a disorder. It just depends on whose perspective you receive. An actual expert on the topic of narcissism (Dr. Ramani) says it is more of a descriptor rather than a sort of legitimate medical diagnosis. It's just a collection of traits and the purpose of identifying them is really to protect yourself rather than to pinpoint an illness
@@christianj5950 Yes I hear you doesn't it depend on a spectrum of behaviour that involves abuse? So you can be a narcissist (I insulted my sister 2 yrs ago calling her a N. but really I was saying she was the centre of her universe to the point other people were supporting characters in her life: we're sisters I was prejudiced and no psychiatrist; she rescues dogs and certainly doesn't do it for general congrats so I left the presentation because obviously something was vr wrong but my own story did not have a man necessarily as the villain; on the contrary. Always admire Chelsea Fagen and get her point of view otherwise.
Very good information. Thanks for posting
It’s also SO grating to hear her going ‘boohoo i have to leave the BIG old mansion and move to this smaller, quaint little mansion’ as the new season unfolded. maam a mansion is a MANSION (AND GIVE BACK THE MONEY 😡😡😡) anyway thank u for the housewives content, chelsea!!
Yooooooooo! This is gold! Please do a Jen Shaw analysis.
You gotta new fan here! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Love 💘 your glasses!
and hair
This situation is crazy. Can't believe how it is all going down. She seems so "powerful" in her portrayal but maybe that comes from her real insecurities with feeling less then from her husband's treatment of her 🤔
YES
Girl you are so on point..!! and Straight to it..!! You're describing it better than anybody so far in my opinion kudos to you my friend..
Chelsea shouting “to the guillotine” is everything! 🤣🤣🤣
You're One of the BEST Assessors AROUND.
Love that the financial diet is like 97% financial advise and 3% Housewives Gossip channel
Thanks for catching me up on the basics!!
I think it is possible Erika left him after learning about all this & it still be a legitimate divorce. If you go into a marriage thinking your spouse is one way, and after 20 years you find out it wasn't all true, I don't see how that isn't grounds for divorce.
Erika is no Teresa Guidice; she’s a shrewd cookie.
Make it make sense 🙄🙄🙄
She Damn well knew
She was expecting to be with him until he died so she could inherit everything. When it turned out that all the money was gone, and he was being hit with lawsuits, and he might actually need her to care for him now, she high-tailed it outta there as quick as she could. She moved everything out in one day! And didn't even leave him a note. No wonder he's calling her up confused and asking her to come back!
Yes, I’m listening but also… your hair looks fab.
Every Chelsea rant is the highlight of my day. I love to indulge my more curmudgeonly aspects with a good scandal.
I’ve watched this video 3 times and just heard the part where Chelsea refers to Andy Cohen as “Satan himself” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀
I love that sex work, gold digging, and being a sugar baby (not the same, btw, dunno if you were trying to connect those directly) are being normalized because it means people will talk about it, its downfalls and how to do it safely. So good job there. My only beef I just have to point out as someone who's been to plenty of strip clubs is there ARE women there who do not strip. There are usually women bartenders and depending on the style often women servers/hostesses, I've even seen a few women in security/bouncing. So nbd but just the cute way it was described here rubbed me wrong, like, just believe a girl didn't strip if she says she didn't at a strip club. I get your just saying that here because she has been otherwise shady, but wanted to point that out.
Good point here
Excellent point!
Chelsea is doing as my mom says: “we’re not judging, I’m only telling you other people life’s mistakes so you learn about them”
I’ve never heard someone say no judgement so judgementally
I agree
The part about sex work was the only part I had to side eye (due to her thinly veiled judgement) imo.. but the rest was hilarious and accurate.. then again I know nothing about this Erika woman so who knows lol
Agreed, was just thinking the same thing. The age difference was condemned for itself, in retrospect based on everything else about the two of them, or both?
I saw they added Real Housewives to Netflix. I didn't know what it was, but after the first episode I didn't think it was a show for me! I never liked any reality show such as Keeping up with Kardashian's. It is all just very toxic.
best analysis since The Shameful Case of Tom Girardi
It’s sad. Both the worship of money and the state of our collective thinking about wealth. Good for you to discuss the underlying problems.
Great analysis. Everything that glitters is not gold. It is so sad that this generation elevating and envying these type of people. If only they know how they can afford their rich lifestyles.
Can y'all like make an offshoot gossip tube channel? I love the way she presents the tea here very rational!
This is a great video!
BTW, you are 100% right and you nailed the whole thing in describing the facts that Bravo is ignoring.
And let us not forget that in the previous season, she called him, "a good man".
Well said. Balanced and comprehensive. Thanks for your perspective.
Bravo knows we’re watching her downfall and is only building her up to dismantle her so that it lasts a season.
NO THEY KEEPING HER ON FOR RATINGS JUST LIKE TEREASEA
This is why I don't watch so called Reality TV and don't do Social media! Who are these people? Thanks for the info.
-san Francisco fan girl
I don't know how much of her husband's business dealings she really knew about. None of us do. This is a channel targeted at women who want to control their own financial security. We have to allow for the belief that there are many many women who don't dig into how their partners get their money, as long as it keeps showing up. Her lifestyle WAS grotesque imo. Also the way I interpreted the Denise Richards issue was Denise sleeping with someone while in a committed monogamous relationship and then trying to deny and kill the story. While appearing on a REALITY TV SHOW!
Your videos are so well-researched and so very witty.
I do think she was manipulated by her husband. Tom was doing this for 40 years and only married to Erica for 21. I believe when she found out the extent, she left. He could have been the one moving money around and she had no reason to question it as he didn’t tell her alot of things that were going on.
First time viewer and love it ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Yay for not shaming gold diggers.
Huh? That was some grade A sarcasm from Chelsea there. She was definitely shaming gold diggers.
“Host and Satan himself” 🤣❤️🤣
"And robbing burn victims" 😅
It's so funny how she said it, not that it happened.
One of the most succinct commentaries. Well stated.
To be honest I barely know anything about my husband's job and I don't care to. My husband already works from home so he is more than happy to not talk about it. I am saying that she probably didn't know much about it and she probably didn't care to know at all.
well when you’re signing documents and accepting payments through your own LLC, you’re responsible for whatever comes with that. (not you in particular, i mean Erika)
You speak so well. Thank you