Others would call it a wolf in sheep's clothing. I'm going to Mary Poppins you a death sentence. Then walk out of the room. Suddenly her normal voice has returned
To be fair, he's definitely a little "special". That mild autism is worse than what we've been led to believe. He doesn't even realize she's talking to him like a little kid, like he only had a mild scuffle with some other kid on the playground. W-w-well Billy called me a bad name first a-a-and pulled my hair.
@@kennethross624 The only people that would say that clearly don't know what the saying means. Sounds like you sympathize with the guy that brutally murdered his parents tbh.
Honestly I love this lady who interrogated him. She did exactly what she needed to do to make the killer seem like she was completely sympathetic, which caused him to give do much more information than he would have if she was not the person investigating it. Top notch.
@@susanmcmasterson956 You read my mind except I was thinking Sunday school teacher, listening to that bloody condescending voice for the whole interview was annoying.
Ok funniest FUNNIEST thing I’ve ever heard on here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m just at the part where the noise begins and had to pause. I can’t even pay attention from laughing
I was able to clock this guy as autistic from the first two sentences (I am autistic, I have experience listening to autistic people talking). The way he's answering questions is exactly expected for an autistic person. In no way does his autism explain his violence or anything, but the way he conducts himself in the interview with unexpected displays of emotion, the way his reasoning seems so unexpected (like not wanting to lie to the border agents being his achilles heel), the way he answers the questions so literally, the calmness and monotony of his tone, the word choice, the focus on the small details to the point of pausing to get almost inconsequential details accurately - all features of autistic communication.
Yeah I cringed on that part as he said that too. I'm not autistic, but he hit me as it almost instantly and thus I didn't really think that his behavior was that off. I know a few mildly autistic people, so I recognize the behavior, and doesn't try to apply my own on it. He also never seemed to hide anything, so he seem very self-aware, and regretting no matter how his "persona" looks to someone who can't read between the lines. Stereotypical; " if a person looks, talks or behaves like this, and this, they are that and that" rarely works in practice. Even with people without mental disabilities. A real interrogator would tell them this, but a real interrogator doesn't make youtube-videos. Most of these youtubers seem to miss that completely and talk like they are experts on a field they have obviously no practical skill in, just an interest and fascination and like to tell about it (Which is great) and as much as I enjoy watching them, their opinions I mostly take with a grain of salt and think for myself based on what information I am "presented" in the video.
I had to look it up because I thought I must be hearing her name wrong. It does have the more masculine spelling, but it's one of those names that were considered men's names but are more typically female now. Like Ashley or Sidney.
“And apparently, the Autobots started having an epic battle with the Decepticons just outside the room.” This got me, it was so unexpected, fucking ugly snort laughing over here
@@LunHorak It's a Transformers reference. Autobots being sentient cars (or other vehicles) that can transform into robots, and Decepticons being the same, but they're the bad guys. AKA sounded like robots were fighting outside the room xD.
@@kathrynchildress1691 It’s from Jim Can’t Swim’s episode on Jodi Arias. It’s unfortunately been taken down, but hopefully it’ll get restored at some point.
Hearing that Meryl was one of the first women in Canadian History to complete an all male military training course is inspiring. Her death was a terrible betrayal. Both of the parents deaths were.
The Autobots start having an epic battle with the Decepticons just outside the room...omg I just about fell out of my chair...lmao! I thought it sounded like an open audition for "Stomp"
That part started playing as I was reading your comment and I'm over here laughing😂😂😂... loudly🤣🤣🤣, probably waking up a child😂😂😂😂😂 that's okay he'll go back to sleep... oh my God I'm dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂 OPTIMUS PRIME! 😂😂😂 For real though what the hell is going on in the hallway?!?! did somebody get locked in the maintenance closet!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@MusicLeeSarah I actually thought it was metal trash cans being smashed around. I think they are at the hospital when she's interviewing him judging by the pajamas and robe he's wearing. Probably the psych ward so any guess is a good one!
Having a nephew who is autistic, that was my first impression of this guy. He's not even aware she's talking to him like a little kid, he thinks she's genuinely interested in his life.
@@batissta44 not sure what your response is about with regards to my comment, but I was only referring to the interrogation method used for this particular suspect.
@@batissta44 sometimes one gets more by using sugar than vinegar. I think they recognized with that particular suspect wasn’t going to open up playing hardball. I do agree with you with regards to sentencing. We get frustrated at some sentences here to because there so different state by state.
Being an uncle to two sweet loving autistic boys, now men, I want people to know autism does not make people violent. There are other factors at work here.
@Michael Thurlow violence is usually self directed. For me, at least. I hit myself when I’m having a meltdown, I’m not usually aware of it, but I’m told it happens and have the black eyes to prove it. It takes a lot to bring about a meltdown though. A shutdown is more likely, withdrawing and becoming non verbal.
This kid seems to have slightly low executive function. His cadence, answers, and general word selection isn’t akin to someone trying to hide something, but closer to someone that doesn’t understand. He sounds like he’s just recounting the actual facts. That could be an intelligence issue as well as some Spectrum-esque behavior. Look at the murder, an what he thinks about lying. That rigidity is a self-imposed guardrail.
Exactly. I don't see how the narrator sees this as a completely normal conversation between two completely competent adults ffs. He needs to keep his opinions out of these videos IMO.
I don’t think it’s an intelligence issue since he was going to a Uni for engineering- and they surely wouldn’t allow him to attend if he didn’t understand the material to the point where his GPA dropped below a certain standard (for instance my Uni requires a 3.7 GPA to remain in the school of engineering)… I think he doesn’t understand socialization as a person on the spectrum would have problems with. Most people understand that you have to speak a little quicker and try to be cooperative in speaking rather than having child-like mannerisms. It could also be a side effect of ADHD medication which may cause “brain fog” (which I’ve experience myself as a Uni graduate) that can also explain his difficulty in speaking and rationalizing. I don’t think it’s an IQ problem… but the detective is definitely speaking to him like he does have a massive IQ deficit 😂
The most chilling one was with Chris Watts kids.He had 2 daughters that were like 4 and 5.He thought he smothered and killed them in their room.After he killed his wife the kids walked in on him.He thought they were dead.He loaded them in his truck along with dead wife.When he got to the spot to bury his wife he smothered the one girl.The other asked him if he was going to do the same to her..He said yes.Her last words were.."no daddy".There were 2 large silos that had oil in them.He placed the 2 in each of them.Said he put them in there so they wouldn't wake back up.An utterly most shocking crime.This one was in reverse.The person that should have protected you is the last person you see before he kills you.
@@suzymoroka297 yes, such a tragic case. His parents were wonderful. I fully believe he would have killed his brother, also, if he’d have gotten the chance.
"after I killed them, I realized it was the wrong choice, but anyway..." That part made me lol. I know he has a mental deficiency but that sentence was funny and scary at the same time. Scary as to how he seemingly killed his parents on a whim for no real reason. I understand he said he felt overly controlled by his parents but I think his parents were clearly just trying to guide and protect him in life. It sounds like he still had lots of freedom in his life but his parents clearly cared for him. It's a really sad case. He went to the same college I did.
I did not. I thought his attitude toward Cameron was... Distasteful at best. And he should be in an asylum not prison. Dudes nuts. I'd be scared of him. Like... Seems he really doesn't know why he killed them. Dyam. Just. Make sure you make what he wants for dinner. Dyaaaam.
He acts like a child that ran away from home, found out he sucked at being self sufficient and phoned his parents to pick him up. Except he killed his parents and now he's free to do whatever, but still sucked at being self sufficient and he phoned the police to pick him up.
@@debshaw680 I have a mildly autistic son. They don't respond well to pressure and are prone to outbursts of rage. When it was time for my son to get a job, I had to do a lot of hand holding, but he finally took flight and lives independently. They remain extremely coddled by their own doing, refusing to meet the demands of school early on, and later, the demands of adulthood. If u seem to be pushing them too hard (in their opinion) it doesn't go well. They can either go into a fetal position or fly into a fit. IMO, his parents were pushing too hard, or saying the same things over and over. It's not hard to drive ppl with autism over the edge. Such a tragedy.
@@staceykersting705 I suspect they chose to treat him as if he wasn’t disordered. And his mother being a military badass was probably part of the problem. Nothing excuses what he did, but there are factors at play.
As a Canadian I'm embarassed by our justice system. 20yrs is an absolute joke. He'll be out in his mid 40s and still bat crap crazy with 2 decades of experience mixing with other savages.
Especially since she was standing there, expecting to go out for a fun evening with the family, she dealing with "herbs", her adopted son is standing there cutting melon, and suddenly, OUT OF THE BLUE, she's stabbed, in the back, by a large stick. And THAT'S the end of her beautiful day and the BEGINNING of her nightmare, I can't even imagine.
@@elphaba4674 I hear that! I have 2 teenage boys that somehow grew to be bigger than me in a year! I know they won't mess with me because I know they are afraid to. I'm only 5'4" and I let it be known that I will knock your knees out and kick you when you're down. I'm also not afraid to lose. Take your chances is what I tell them. Lol.
He didn't hide the bodies for the relatives, he hid them to keep from being caught to begin with. However, since he is so lazy he couldn't be bothered with finishing hiding things. Anybody see Joel Guy Jr in this guy.
Yes indeed, Detective Kelm is impressive. Here in Ottawa, I’ve heard her described as “The Mary Poppins of police investigators.” She is my hero! - Graham Gleddie (Merrill’s brother)
@@mr.anderson9938 There’s plenty of modern techniques being used. Like being sympathetic to presenting the crime to have a less serious impact in order to get the suspect to admit to the lesser offense, thereby affirming participation or motive.
The shouting, yelling detectives who get in the suspect's face tend to belong more in movies. Someone trying to get to know the suspect and speak softly to them and establish a rapport tend to get better results.
This detective’s style of questioning is amazing; I hope to God that she never interrogates me, lest she makes me confess the chocolate chip cookie I took from the jar when I was 2.
I noticed the investigators in canada havr a different purpose then the states. It seems like guilt has been established and theyre trying to study the suspect instead.
@@kalulubamba53 Killing is wrong sure but that doesn't change the fact that it's fascinating to understand why killers do X thing. Julie isn't excusing his actions just explaining his behavior and how autistic people perceive the world. We literally would not be on these channels if we didn't find these things fascinating. I don't give a shit about these random people I just find things interesting.
Brandon, well said! I lost a part of my soul when our mother died (our mother died on 12 Oct 2020). I knew Merrill Gleddie Rogers well, and I can assure you that Merrill also lost a part of her soul when our mother died. I can’t imagine what Merrill was thinking when she lay on her kitchen floor, writhing in pain, slowly dying for 12+ hours, knowing her son had done this to her. What the episode doesn’t mention is that Cameron prepared food for himself (tiptoeing around his Mom) and then took it upstairs to eat. FYI I couldn’t sleep, so was googling and came upon this Monsters episode this night. It’s well done. A monster indeed! I am Graham Gleddie (Merrill’s brother).
@@normandseguin1627 - I'm very sorry for loss and I hope you're doing as good as you can. My mom died around the same time. I just wanted to say sorry.
The detective is super smart. She’s adapted her communication style to suit the suspect & her questioning & reassuring manner was impeccable. She knew when to gently back off, change direction, then slowly slide back to gleaning the details of the murder again. 👌. Brilliant work!
The lady interviewing him is absolutely horrible! She repeatedly cuts him off when he's talking, keeps talking over him by saying "okay", is talking to him like a baby and is condescending. She also is telling him what to say and think at times. I don't know how this interview could be used in a court of law. It should be thrown out.
As a person that has been around so many people on the scale of autism, he sounds like he's definitely autistic. The parents sound like they were trying to ease his stress and pressure; not control him but make life easier for him because of his inability to decide things.
My son 17 and is autistic. As soon as I heard his speech I immediately thought autism. I have a habit of trying to protect my son from awkward social moments and immediately cringed when he went to a job interview so I completely see where his parents may have been coming from.
Would you say based on your understanding of autism would he be able to fully understand the ramifications of his actions. Imo ive seen a lot of stories on here...this one is the saddest because i dont believe Cameron to be a dark individual as much as just a confused and conflicted individual with out the equal ability to rationalize the way other non-autistic individuals might.
@Bars for Biden Not saying what he did doesn't deserve consequences. However, understanding why someone has done something and the things that happened around them is good to know for better deterrence.
21:00 LMAO!!! I was so confused by the Transformers reference and it didn't hit me until a few seconds after the interrogation started back up. I can't stop laughing!!
As someone with ADHD, the whole having no direction and losing interest quickly in things is something I’m very familiar with. Still haven’t killed anyone though, that’s a big plus. This man is naive to ChrisChan levels.
@@claudiat.2662 Yea but adhd causes lack of motivation I have ADHD And it's so bad for me I never wanna leave my bed not even to shower or sometimes even eat I have to force myself
Not every person with ADHD is the same. There are scientists, artists, musicians and loads of other high-functioning ADHDers that do get out of bed and get stuff done. They have to try really, really, really hard each day, though. Probably like other people without ADHD. Sometimes, it can be used as an excuse.
“Oh, you carved a killing stick? How cool!” one of your best snarky remarks ever!! LMFAO I am a cop for over 15yrs. & I love your storytelling & commentary. Its like you verbalize my inner dialogue 🤘
Exactly. I'm a preschool teacher. We ask details, feelings, what happened before, after,etc., all in this very low, sensitive and caring voice. I do feel this guy has a significant disability,though. If he's acting, he definitely missed his calling.
@@tiffanyclark-grove1989 I agree,though I have experienced disabled people who have not realized the *wrong* until after the impulsivity has passed and it is too late. This guy is a puzzle,to me. If he is acting, wowza.
@@sonjafrances7508 I agree about impulse control. I have worked with disabled folks for years, but this crime appears premeditated and extends beyond a momentary lapse of reason.
Yes! I am a preschool teacher and this is how I sound when talking to my young humans. I mean,I'm not asking them why they've killed their parents, though. 😩😭
Her tactic is perfect for this individual and works. She doesn’t even need to extract information. This guy is spilling it all, and with no lawyer present.
@@ghoulishtoad She wasn't trying to find out if this guy killed his parents'; they already knew that. She was trying to find out if this guy was able to stand trial.
Giving her daughter a mans name became the accidental catalyst for women to get to choose combat training if they wanted. Says a lot about the power of a name, for sure.
I understand that this guy has some problems ,but again it all comes down to knowing the difference between right and wrong and he clearly does ,planning was done here.
Just want to say that i really respect the fact that you put ways to reach out for help at the end of all your videos. Great quality as always, and top notch comedy to boot!!
“Oh you carved your own killing stick?! How cool...” - The narrator (not the female investigator, she never said that, only the narrator did, ok? Cool?!)
OMG that detective was so lovely. When the little freaking monster said he "made" a stick, she said, "Oh cool!". Gotta let the kids know that its good to be creative! I lol'd at that.
I’d venture to say they wanted him to work up to the ability to hold a job by building his responsibility with chores at home first. They knew him well and wanted the best for him.
Agree but you start the training early not after baby huey is full grown ,entitled and not amiable to slave labor like sweeping a floor of the inch layer of Cheetos dust and mountain dew cans in his gaming area.
@@c_farther5208 even less. He will probably be day paroled after a few years to a group home for adults with extra needs to assist them with living and be required to abide by a curfew and a few other things like having to hold a part time job (which living in the group home would probably be a part time job that they would all go to together as a group, when I worked packing grass seed for Brett Young years ago a group would come in for a few hours per day and put together boxes for us,) and he would probably be ordered to stay in some kind of supervised living situation for the rest of his life
Imagine your grinding herbs and out of nowhere your son who has never been violent suddenly stabs you, gouges your eye out and then goes about his day normally while you slowly die on the floor. Im in the kitchen like 😒 ...and btw, there is something very wrong with this young man. 7
I always wonder about this man's biological family and their medical, emotional, and cognitive functioning. This kind of behavior doesn't come out of thin air.
Laughed so hard at the Autobots Decepticons epic battle line that I woke up the dog, the cat, and the bf so now we're all watching the rest of this together.
I was about to make a joke about how the cops arrested Megatron after a domestic dispute with Starscream, but that was probably an actual storyline in those dogshit IDW comics.
@@melissamccleary9611 you must have raised some great kids. Disappointing my mom was always the worst feeling growing up. I feel sad for people who don't have good relationships with their parents.
I KNOW! Once as a teen I made my mom cry by locking her out of my room and I still can't think about it without feeling like an asshole. I could NEVER physically hurt her much less take her life. And I'd kill anyone who tried.
He HAS a life sentence. The twenty years refers to the earliest that he can apply for parole. It does not mean he will necessarily get parole. He may never get parole.
Having worked both in nursing and as a life skills educator for adults with physical/mental disabilities...this guy truly gives me the creeps. He would be a client/patient I would not have turned my back on, or left an improvised weapon around.
I feel bad for him as well. He is not well and was also being forced, at 22 years of age, to be their personal servant at home, when what he wanted was to go out and get a job and start his own life. The poor guy has probably never even been on a date before.
He couldn't have been that bad off intellectually if he passed high school with a mean grade level acceptable to even apply to college and then there's entrance exams as well. Not saying he was doing well in College but he did get in according to him.
@@jessicajohnson4992 I agree that it was super manipulative. You think she talks like that to other suspects? They knew he had some sort of developmental disability and must likely should have beer accompanied by someone during interview, feasibly a lawyer. Not sure how Canada laws work so idk for its legality.
@@smilekyle5906 Well yes, understandably they were unavailable at the time of interrogation. But that still shouldn't constitute the abuse of his legal rights. Watched a video lawyer lecturing law students and there was a cop guest speaker as well. He had a bullet point presentation on why u should NEVER talk to police without lawyer (guilty or innocent) He was adamant there is never ever any benefits from doing so. Everything can be used against you but nothing you say will ever be used for your benefit guaranteed. Perhaps you mistakenly told them the wrong time you left home for work b4 a murder? Realistically you'd have a hard time retracting and revising it.. They'd have your statement locked in. Point is dude here is "special special" obvious from the get go they should have depth legal counsel to decide how to legally proceed with interview. But that would be too much like right I guess.
Dying mother laid there moaning for HOURS and Cameron talked to his uncle during this time telling the uncle that both parents are FINE...May Cameron rot in hell!
Thank you for this.........WOW! he certainly knew how to clean up, he even used a steam cleaner! These poor parents had no idea, my deepest condolences to their families 😔
He actually thought it would be fast and simple to kill a military bad-ass. I’m not surprised it took a long time for her to die (what an impressive background she had!) - if she was younger, I bet she could have managed to successfully fight him off and survive. That was so sad to hear that she suffered a lot. RIP to both mum and dad.
Being a "bad ass" doesn't magically make you survive being stabbed better. It just so happened that the wounds he inflicted weren't immediately lethal like the stab wound to his father's lung was.
@@ahall9839 Yes, but you are helping me make my point… Because her stab wounds weren’t lethal right away, if she were younger and in better shape, she would’ve had more of a chance to fight him off and survive. I don’t think my take is weird at all.
I’ve had an interest in this case for a little while and was bummed that no true crime podcast I could find had covered him. I’m glad you came in clutch :)
My favorite part of your video was the supportive information at the end, educating and encouraging victims how and where to get help. The documentary was amazing too! Great work
She was perfect to speak to him. It was frustrating to listen to but at the same time she made him feel calm and comfortable so he was open to continue talking and talking! She was very good!
This interrogator is amazing. I just recently started watching more Canandian crime stories on here and the thing that sticks out the most is how different their interrogations are compared to us over in the US
This is a famous case and famous interview. The level of skill by the interrogator is incredible, especially given who the suspect was: "On February 7, 2010, Williams was interrogated at the police headquarters by OPP Detective Staff Sergeant Jim Smyth. Williams was confronted with the evidence gathered so far starting at 3:00 p.m. with the interrogation lasting approximately 10 hours overall. By 7:45 p.m. Williams had begun confessing to his crimes." ruclips.net/video/lj7QRP37Wn0/видео.html
Have you ever seen how they interrogate in the UK? I just shake my head every time I see an interrogation. Cop: asks a question Suspect: no comment Cop: asks a question Suspect: no comment and it carries on like that for at least an hour or more worth of questions and no comments. I don't know how you can waste so much time after the first five no comment answers.
@@brentrichards1200 naw, the whole world thinks that Canada is too nice to criminals, and too light on their sentencing. It’s not a US thing to think that Canada’s too soft on crime, plenty of true crime channels and podcasts from other countries say that Canada is too nice to criminals and too light on sentencing murderers. Five years for murder is considered unthinkable in every civilized country, except for Canada.
He is probably heavily sedated, so taking a calm approach is probably related to his high level of medication. Canada has certain things they are harsh on, like domestic violence, and sex crimes. Canada has the option for courts to rule sex offenders to be chemically castrated, which is still very controversial in the USA.
I dont think he "draws the line at lying" as if he that's too immoral for him, I think he was just being literal with what he said and he wouldn't be able to lie, as in, he knew he was bad at it and literally wouldn't be able to do it convincingly
Good point. Not trying to lump people with disabilities all together. But my best friend all through junior and HS had FAS Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. He told me directly that he quite literally cannot tell a lie. He can't keep it straight or even remember to even tell the lie. I know this because he myself and two other friends snuck out of my dad's house in HS and asked people at the corner store to by us booze. My dad found out the next morning we were all drinking and I got sick thanks to my step brother lol. I told my buddy with FAS to lie and i told him what to say he got really flustered and agitated he said no i can't do it i can't lie. Not because he thought it was wrong but quite literally he could nor formulate a lie. I have a som now that has autism and Di George Syndrome. He cannot lie to save his life he doesn't even try.
True, but he DID lie about going to the Appalachian trail before changing that lie to be that he was going to a sex party. Which is why he never made it across the border 🤔
I mean the guy is autistic and I'm also autistic so like talking to him in a more sympathetic way is more helpful to get out info from him. Yelling at the kid isnt gonna do anything.
What a perfect way to repay the people who took you in and became your parents when your biological one's wouldn't. Disgusting how he decided to gouge out his mother's eye...
Being adopted doesn’t mean that you owe your parents anything more than you would owe your biological parents that took care of you. Him being adopted is beside the point. I have 6 sons, 3 adopted, they all owe us the same amount of respect and love. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending this psycho who killed his parents! I just never want any of my kids to think they owe me more because I didn’t birth them. I hope you understand.
@@Michelle_Mack I don't think she ment owed them but.They did something that changed his life for the better and he did something that ended their lives. He was mad bc his parents made him go to college that's called entitlement they wanted what was best for him.and he was a terrible human being
@@morphsanmore2324 I understand. I hope my kids never kill us or anyone, adopted or not. There’s just a lot of bad stereotypes that adopted kids turn on their parents and it’s so so so so rare! I think they’ve got enough pressure and don’t need extra pressure added- they don’t owe anything more than any other kid. I hope I haven’t offended anyone, that wasn’t my intention, at all!
@Sandra Turajlich I am so sorry that you went through that! My biological mother rejected me, but she never gave me up for adoption and instead she tried to make my life miserable, I’m 42 now and haven’t spoken to her in years. We want our parents to love us - but sometimes they can’t, because they have problems- not you. I respect my mother and keeping a distance is the best way to do that. I pray that you find peace! God in heaven is my father, his love is all that we need.
This man sounds like a child. That poor, innocent couple. They adopted a child that needed a family, and this is how he repaid them. So sad and tragic,
Even though he had decent grades and was somewhat “book smart” he really does speak like he is socially incompetent and maybe developmentally delayed. I was surprised to hear he was 22.
He's autistic - lots of autistic people talk this way (speaking as an autistic person, my speech patterns are exactly like this when I'm distressed or unsure what to do in a given situation). Doesn't excuse the murders, but perfectly nice and pleasant people also speak like this
Family and friends think they know at heart how a person is. But sometimes there's things going on behind closed doors that others don't get to find out nor believe.
you can tell she will still love him after life even tho (This was heartless still even )tho he did say “I seen my mom in pain and I couldn’t do nothing about it “ I could never do that or see my mom that way
By far my favorite true crime channel! Side note: Your Canada comment is so true. Did you know that when convicted for murder in Brazil some qualify to get 5 weeks every year of temp release? Like a freaking vacation from prison, it's insane!
The lady interviewing him is absolutely horrible! She repeatedly cuts him off when he's talking, keeps talking over him by saying "okay", is talking to him like a baby and is condescending. She also is telling him what to say and think at times. I don't know how this interview could be used in a court of law. It should be thrown out.
I had already watched his interrogation and the detective is absolutely amazing, love her! And your comments helped answer a lot of questions I had. Never understood why he said he needed a visa to enter the US as a Canadian citizen for example. Thanks so much for this video. And I did want to share some thoughts. Although of course there is absolutely no justification for his monstrous acts and the terrible suffering his parents experienced at his hands, my heart goes out to them and their loved ones. However a few thoughts crossed my mind as I was hearing him sort of explain why he did it. I think there are several important things to listen to. I was a care worker with disabled children and young adults for people who lived at home. I would take them out to do activities. And many times these children and young adults would express a lot of frustration at the fact that their parents over protected them and they felt they had very little agency in their lives. Also the fact that he was a single child and so all his parents' attention was set on him can be very heavy. I want to repeat that I am not in any way justifying his actions. He obviously has some other factors that made him into a killer, which the vast majority of people would never do, whatever their disability or mental health issues. Nonetheless his message is important and it is a problem for a lot of children and young adults, especially those living with disabilities. I don't know whether he ever got to see a councillor, or a careers councillor, but that might have helped make him feel a little more control of his life.
Yea I don’t care how brutal a murder is soon as they say it’s in Canada I’m like yep life 25 years!! What a joke that country is. To me life is life. If 25 years is life I should have been dead 18 years ago!Do people not live that long in that country? I can understand if it was little house on the prairie days! Yea you lived to be 40 you were ancient.
In Canada, the sentence for first degree murder is life with the possibility of parole after 25 years. Paul Bernardo was sentenced as mentioned above in 1995 - he's still in prison. He was also declared a dangerous offender. He can apply for parole, which is infuriating, but it's very unlikely that he'll ever be released. Clifford Olsen, a child serial killer, died in prison after serving 29 years.
I understand that he is not getting not going to get out. No chance. And really he shouldn't he's got no skills for life. And certainly none for getting along in polite Society.
@@christineroberts133 actually, no we don't. We now give multiple life sentences and we have dangerous offender statuses which will guarantee you will never get out. You may be thinking of back when we had the "hope clause" which was taken away back in the 90's. I have seen many people apply for parole, Paul Bernardo for example, who will never get out yet he is up to apply on June 22.
@@hazelmill20 according to him his parents didn’t approve of him wanting to get a job. Actually something I saw often when motivated parents who had drive, focus, and great long term planning had children on the spectrum who may not have the same though they’re still relatively high functioning. Parents try to help and guide their kids into what they think will be in their best interest in the long run. An extra layer of them “guiding” /“controlling” him in one direction more than another occurs even past the point when parents would usually lessen this when their children become older because of the added disorder and thus more want to protect. It’s understandable but a point of huge frustration on all involved. Behavioral therapists and assistants can help with this a LOT.
He's not all there upstairs and I'm finding it hard to see him as just another murderer. Wow. He's cold like a psychopath except he seems very confused by being questioned and even the questions themselves. Tragic
Yeah this seems to be a genuine case of confusion and dissociation. I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I wonder if his defense tried the insanity plea. It almost looks like he partially fits it in the interview. (Not fully though, but some screws seem lost not just loose about this situation).
I agree - he definitely seems somewhat developmentally challenged. And the tears he shed at his mothers agony that she was in for hours seemed incredibly genuine. Though again he could have called for help or even "end her suffering" but he did neither.
Right, just the way he talked and not even having a real reason for killing them? I mean, because he graduated with a B average in high school and was studying engineering at college and doing well enough, I don't know if that necessarily means that he didn't have some kind of mental episode?
I saw this interview on another channel but it didn't have any background information about the parents. Meryl was a badass! That military training cv she had, wow! No wonder he could only kill her with her back turned.
that is literally how autism looks like. having autism makes people seem apathetic in behavior, but it doesnt mean everyone with autism is a monster. its just a different form of how autistic people convey emotion.
And he conveniently slips into the delayed way of talking , I’m sure he has a slight speech impediment but he was definitely switching back and forth throughput the video
@@DylanRomanov And he conveniently gives very detailed, unnecessary, incriminating facts despite being so calculating and mentally intact to want to fake his speech. GTFOH.
Consider the facts at hand here. 4 instance he doesn't even have a motive. He begins the assault with a carved wooden stick.😅 The guy is clearly not alright mentally. You're judging his actions as if he were a regular murderer.He is not, he is disabled in the brain. One cannot predict how he will talk or act and more importantly how he will kill.
This one's tragic because the man clearly suffers from psychiatric issues and has a relative idea of the degree of gravity of his actions. In his 911 confession he was like a little boy trying to make things right and waiting for someone to compliment him on it. So sad for the victims.
Some schizophrenic people commit murders (look up Vince Lee, he was found not criminally responsible). My dad was schizophrenic and bi polar and he never murdered anyone. It’s upsetting when people think all people who have a mental illness would be criminals. In reality it’s a very small percentage and actually more often people who commit murders do not have any mental illness
I remember hearing about some foster families that sued the agencies that they had been given of the person in their regard but information about their psychotic nature of the child being placed in their home.
That operator when he was phoning in his confession was terrible. He sounded like he was fed up and couldn’t be bothered with the call at first. Another person might have been put off and hung up and then they might have missed out on information. Even if he didn’t necessarily think it was true, is it really so much to change your tone of voice?
Yes seemed annoyed and put out. I was a 911 dispatcher for 20 years. Treat every situation as true is what I was taught. Like just because you have a small child on the phone doesn't mean it's a prank. Younger children have called about parents that are sick and were able to perform CPR until we could get paramedics there.
I don't know much about 911 in Canada, but yeah, this seemed really weird for an emergency call. The guy was passive aggressive from the first second of the call and the idea that if the person was having trouble giving you an address you'd just be like, well, get me one or go fuck yourself is ridiculous. Land line phones most often provide an address immediately and if it's a cell phone they usually have a registered address that shows up.
Yes!!! Thank you! I was yelling at the jerk 911 operator too! Reminds me of the jerk 911 operator who mocked a woman for being scared as drowned….told the woman she was being hysterical…and the woman died. 911 operators need to be very carefully vetted.
I love how he killed his parents for trying to help him figure out what he wanted to do in life And then struggled to figure out what to do with his life.
It's not really that strange that he is detached. I have Asperger's so on some very distant distant level I understand. When you are on the spectrum one of the things we do is obsess and I don't just mean like a little bit of anxiety I mean we all day, all the time, over and over and over obsess over such a small thing that really isn't a thing can be to that person could be to them the thing that consumes them. He said about being made to go to school for something he didn't want to and no control over money. Well he would relive even a small conversation in his head coming up with different versions of the conversation live out to things that may not even happen. He would be there in his head getting more angry and more angry to where he snapped. I don't obsess to that extreme also years and years of therapy to retrain my brain to recognize those thinking traps. But for me when I get upset it can be something small like not being able to find my hair clip I would feel it start in my chest then next thing I know I'm crying on the floor. I'm definitely not defending him at all just my thoughts on how his mind might have been working. But like it doesn't cost anything to go to family court and he could have filed a claim to get the judge to tell his parents to let him have control over his life. He would have had his freedom and his parents would still be alive. And his emotionless demeanor is a thing too someone could be crying in front of me and I would feel nothing. Doesn't matter if I am close to them or not I don't recognize emotions. But I do have emotions and can recognize my own. Well yup a novel for ya but that's my nickle on the matter. (Ya know sense Canada got rid of the penny 🤷) Oh yeah and our justice system is designed to rehabilitate not punish. That's why you get max sentence of 25 years Paul Bernardo has a parole hearing on the 22 so yay! 🙄🤦😔
@@genesistafari9006 yay for self awareness! It was a long row to hoe but I finally got here. Have a challenge this week, I'm supposed to take notice to ways people aren't stupid for CT. Day one.... con list -2 pages, pro- ? Hmmmmm........🤔 Well thanks for replying I think it helps to know our community is bigger than we think.
His parents frustrated him by not teaching or even allowing him to gain life skill. The interviews with him showed how obviously naive he was about life and consequences.
Yeah I have family members who have Asperger's and Autism and with the majority, that's their biggest noticeable trait is being sort of emotionally detached and more logical or matter of fact
Yes! Thank you! I went to bed way too early and I'm up at 3am. My brain must've known this was coming up 😊 I guess Meryl Streep's mom wasn't aware of this not being a female name either. 😉
@Jennifer Rose Bruce I've personally never heard of it as man's name. I wonder if he was thinking of Merle like Merle Haggard instead of Meryl? Two different pronunciations. Or he's just dumb 🙄
Actually, some trivia about Streep is that Meryl is her nickname that her father called her and she used it as her stage name. Her name is Mary Louise 😍
If youre sentenced to life in Canada, you serve 25 years, and you are reviewed for parole. The most violent criminals in Canada get 25 years, but its very unlikely that they will get paroled after that 25 years is up. Effectively a life sentence.
This detective/investigator has MASTERED the "therapist voice," and drew out information she didn't even ask for. Incredible.
Others would call it a wolf in sheep's clothing. I'm going to Mary Poppins you a death sentence. Then walk out of the room. Suddenly her normal voice has returned
To be fair, he's definitely a little "special". That mild autism is worse than what we've been led to believe. He doesn't even realize she's talking to him like a little kid, like he only had a mild scuffle with some other kid on the playground. W-w-well Billy called me a bad name first a-a-and pulled my hair.
@@kennethross624 The only people that would say that clearly don't know what the saying means. Sounds like you sympathize with the guy that brutally murdered his parents tbh.
Look at who she’s interrogating. Dudes slow.
@@Tmr1221 true she was talking to him like a 5 year old …because he sounded and acted like a 5 year old…
Honestly I love this lady who interrogated him. She did exactly what she needed to do to make the killer seem like she was completely sympathetic, which caused him to give do much more information than he would have if she was not the person investigating it. Top notch.
Exactly.
She did a PHENOMENAL job. Caught him out.
She actually works full time as a kindergarten teacher. Police interrogator is just her side hustle. LOLOLOLOL
@@susanmcmasterson956 You read my mind except I was thinking Sunday school teacher, listening to that bloody condescending voice for the whole interview was annoying.
She’s def one of the best interrogation officers I’ve seen
"Apparently, the Autobots start having an epic battle with the Decepticons just outside the room." Priceless 🤣
Fuck yeah ROFL
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Ok funniest FUNNIEST thing I’ve ever heard on here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m just at the part where the noise begins and had to pause. I can’t even pay attention from laughing
I came here for this comment 😂😂
I didn't think that, I was immediately reminded of in Home Alone 2, where the burglars pull the tool chest down the stairs.
I’ve seen this investigator before. Anyone who comes face to face with this woman, just go on and confess. She is epic
any other cases on this channel?
You mean to say, "just go on and politely say nothing more besides 'I want an attorney'"
People should confess because they committed the crime they're accused of, not because they're being interviewed by this woman.
Right she had me ready to confess
@Deborah Carr
Do you recall what other cases she's worked on?
I was able to clock this guy as autistic from the first two sentences (I am autistic, I have experience listening to autistic people talking). The way he's answering questions is exactly expected for an autistic person. In no way does his autism explain his violence or anything, but the way he conducts himself in the interview with unexpected displays of emotion, the way his reasoning seems so unexpected (like not wanting to lie to the border agents being his achilles heel), the way he answers the questions so literally, the calmness and monotony of his tone, the word choice, the focus on the small details to the point of pausing to get almost inconsequential details accurately - all features of autistic communication.
Agree completely, autism is definitely not the cause. This is so sad
Coo
Agreed
Agreed.
Yeah I cringed on that part as he said that too. I'm not autistic, but he hit me as it almost instantly and thus I didn't really think that his behavior was that off. I know a few mildly autistic people, so I recognize the behavior, and doesn't try to apply my own on it. He also never seemed to hide anything, so he seem very self-aware, and regretting no matter how his "persona" looks to someone who can't read between the lines.
Stereotypical; " if a person looks, talks or behaves like this, and this, they are that and that" rarely works in practice. Even with people without mental disabilities. A real interrogator would tell them this, but a real interrogator doesn't make youtube-videos. Most of these youtubers seem to miss that completely and talk like they are experts on a field they have obviously no practical skill in, just an interest and fascination and like to tell about it (Which is great) and as much as I enjoy watching them, their opinions I mostly take with a grain of salt and think for myself based on what information I am "presented" in the video.
As an English man I can honestly say that I have never heard of a man having the name Meryl.. I would have considered it a woman's name 🤔
I agree! I’m British and have only ever heard of women being called Meryl.
Like those American dudes called Dana.
Isn’t there a very famous actress with that name? Geez
Meryl Streep
I had to look it up because I thought I must be hearing her name wrong. It does have the more masculine spelling, but it's one of those names that were considered men's names but are more typically female now. Like Ashley or Sidney.
“And apparently, the Autobots started having an epic battle with the Decepticons just outside the room.”
This got me, it was so unexpected, fucking ugly snort laughing over here
I though he was talking metaphorically but no - the Autobots were indeed raging a war with the Decepticons outside the interrogation room. lol
@@LunHorak It's a Transformers reference. Autobots being sentient cars (or other vehicles) that can transform into robots, and Decepticons being the same, but they're the bad guys. AKA sounded like robots were fighting outside the room xD.
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Right!!! :D
Right ! Me to ....he always does that to me
“The autobots battle the decepticons outside” is right up there with “She looked like a sea lion peaking over a rock”
Omg what episode is the second phrase from?!🤣🤣
@@kathrynchildress1691 It’s from Jim Can’t Swim’s episode on Jodi Arias. It’s unfortunately been taken down, but hopefully it’ll get restored at some point.
@@kathrynchildress1691 21:05
I commented on that same moment on that JCS video. When he showed the picture of the sea lion…HE SHOWED A PICTURE OF A SEA LION!!!
Hearing that Meryl was one of the first women in Canadian History to complete an all male military training course is inspiring. Her death was a terrible betrayal. Both of the parents deaths were.
Yeah I felt the same way when he got to that part. It's inspiring and encouraging.
Yeah but they were Canadian men, so.........*cough*
Oh, relax...I kid, I kid.....😉
@@ltrizzle12 😂
@@ltrizzle12 lmfao, I’m from WA state and we pretty close to Canadians I feel like here so I take offense 😂 lol jk jk!
@@Shy-xm4kn Good! The less snowflakes in the world, the better! 🤘🇺🇸💪
The Autobots start having an epic battle with the Decepticons just outside the room...omg I just about fell out of my chair...lmao! I thought it sounded like an open audition for "Stomp"
That part started playing as I was reading your comment and I'm over here laughing😂😂😂... loudly🤣🤣🤣, probably waking up a child😂😂😂😂😂 that's okay he'll go back to sleep... oh my God I'm dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂
OPTIMUS PRIME! 😂😂😂
For real though what the hell is going on in the hallway?!?! did somebody get locked in the maintenance closet!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@MusicLeeSarah I actually thought it was metal trash cans being smashed around. I think they are at the hospital when she's interviewing him judging by the pajamas and robe he's wearing. Probably the psych ward so any guess is a good one!
Sounded like another prisoner going wild in his cell/interview room.
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@@debshaw680 That's what I thought it was, too.
Having a nephew who is autistic, that was my first impression of this guy. He's not even aware she's talking to him like a little kid, he thinks she's genuinely interested in his life.
He's definitely on the spectrum.
You can always tell when a case is from Canada because the interrogator will be so polite. It’s like they’re having a normal conversation 😂
I've seen some that are super annoying. Not anybody I'd want to talk to.
It seems to work better. US police seem to base their techniques more on movies than effective practices.
That method seems to generate results.
@@batissta44 not sure what your response is about with regards to my comment, but I was only referring to the interrogation method used for this particular suspect.
@@batissta44 sometimes one gets more by using sugar than vinegar. I think they recognized with that particular suspect wasn’t going to open up playing hardball. I do agree with you with regards to sentencing. We get frustrated at some sentences here to because there so different state by state.
Being an uncle to two sweet loving autistic boys, now men, I want people to know autism does not make people violent. There are other factors at work here.
Adoption.
there is considerable overlap between autism spectrum disorders and schizoidal type personalities
There was no medical records he had any form of autism... he was lying...
I’m 51 and autistic and yet to take up homicide as a career choice.
@Michael Thurlow violence is usually self directed. For me, at least. I hit myself when I’m having a meltdown, I’m not usually aware of it, but I’m told it happens and have the black eyes to prove it. It takes a lot to bring about a meltdown though. A shutdown is more likely, withdrawing and becoming non verbal.
This kid seems to have slightly low executive function. His cadence, answers, and general word selection isn’t akin to someone trying to hide something, but closer to someone that doesn’t understand. He sounds like he’s just recounting the actual facts. That could be an intelligence issue as well as some Spectrum-esque behavior.
Look at the murder, an what he thinks about lying. That rigidity is a self-imposed guardrail.
I agree. I definitely see executive function deficits.
I agree
He’s got the very flat affect it’s more than just asd
Adhd. I have it and it greatly and very specifically affects mine. Nothing to this extreme. I feel like he is feigning a lil.
Exactly. I don't see how the narrator sees this as a completely normal conversation between two completely competent adults ffs. He needs to keep his opinions out of these videos IMO.
I don’t think it’s an intelligence issue since he was going to a Uni for engineering- and they surely wouldn’t allow him to attend if he didn’t understand the material to the point where his GPA dropped below a certain standard (for instance my Uni requires a 3.7 GPA to remain in the school of engineering)…
I think he doesn’t understand socialization as a person on the spectrum would have problems with. Most people understand that you have to speak a little quicker and try to be cooperative in speaking rather than having child-like mannerisms. It could also be a side effect of ADHD medication which may cause “brain fog” (which I’ve experience myself as a Uni graduate) that can also explain his difficulty in speaking and rationalizing.
I don’t think it’s an IQ problem… but the detective is definitely speaking to him like he does have a massive IQ deficit 😂
I just can’t imagine the last sight being your child that you’ve dedicated your whole life to killing you! So very terrifying and sad!
Reasons not to have kids
The most chilling one was with Chris Watts kids.He had 2 daughters that were like 4 and 5.He thought he smothered and killed them in their room.After he killed his wife the kids walked in on him.He thought they were dead.He loaded them in his truck along with dead wife.When he got to the spot to bury his wife he smothered the one girl.The other asked him if he was going to do the same to her..He said yes.Her last words were.."no daddy".There were 2 large silos that had oil in them.He placed the 2 in each of them.Said he put them in there so they wouldn't wake back up.An utterly most shocking crime.This one was in reverse.The person that should have protected you is the last person you see before he kills you.
Have you seen the Chandler Halderson case recently?? Joel Guy Jr? The Bevers brothers
@@suzymoroka297 yes, such a tragic case. His parents were wonderful. I fully believe he would have killed his brother, also, if he’d have gotten the chance.
@@themoribundapathetic4530 They bought him.
"after I killed them, I realized it was the wrong choice, but anyway..." That part made me lol. I know he has a mental deficiency but that sentence was funny and scary at the same time. Scary as to how he seemingly killed his parents on a whim for no real reason. I understand he said he felt overly controlled by his parents but I think his parents were clearly just trying to guide and protect him in life. It sounds like he still had lots of freedom in his life but his parents clearly cared for him. It's a really sad case. He went to the same college I did.
He has slight autism I wouldt call that a major deficiency
"Oh you carved your own killing stick?! How cool" just made me laugh at my damn desk
I know! Totally unexpected (and arguably inappropriate) response.
I did not. I thought his attitude toward Cameron was... Distasteful at best. And he should be in an asylum not prison. Dudes nuts. I'd be scared of him. Like... Seems he really doesn't know why he killed them. Dyam. Just. Make sure you make what he wants for dinner. Dyaaaam.
@@maycasper2661 he did a great job keeping him talking. That's his job
@@jf2835 You're a pepper :D
I laughed out loud at this as well 🤣
Cameron’s lawyer looks like he combs his hair with a stick of dynamite.
I found this to be an incredibly hilarious comparison. Thank you for the unexpected laugh
Bahahaha!
Or a balloon ? 😊
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Your hilarious 😂
He acts like a child that ran away from home, found out he sucked at being self sufficient and phoned his parents to pick him up. Except he killed his parents and now he's free to do whatever, but still sucked at being self sufficient and he phoned the police to pick him up.
Apparently according to the comments he's not free; he'll be in jail for LIFE.
I think he learned quite early that having no parents sucked a lot more than having them. Like, who's gonna cut the crusts off his pbj's now?
I think that’s exactly what it was like for him. He’d never been taught to be even the least bit self sufficient.
@@debshaw680 I have a mildly autistic son. They don't respond well to pressure and are prone to outbursts of rage. When it was time for my son to get a job, I had to do a lot of hand holding, but he finally took flight and lives independently. They remain extremely coddled by their own doing, refusing to meet the demands of school early on, and later, the demands of adulthood. If u seem to be pushing them too hard (in their opinion) it doesn't go well. They can either go into a fetal position or fly into a fit. IMO, his parents were pushing too hard, or saying the same things over and over. It's not hard to drive ppl with autism over the edge. Such a tragedy.
@@staceykersting705 I suspect they chose to treat him as if he wasn’t disordered. And his mother being a military badass was probably part of the problem. Nothing excuses what he did, but there are factors at play.
As a Canadian I'm embarassed by our justice system. 20yrs is an absolute joke. He'll be out in his mid 40s and still bat crap crazy with 2 decades of experience mixing with other savages.
Few things scarier than being attacked by your own child. So sad.
Especially since she was standing there, expecting to go out for a fun evening with the family, she dealing with "herbs", her adopted son is standing there cutting melon, and suddenly, OUT OF THE BLUE, she's stabbed, in the back, by a large stick. And THAT'S the end of her beautiful day and the BEGINNING of her nightmare, I can't even imagine.
A child they chose none the less 💔
My daughter is 10 and I always watch my back 😆
@@suzannenichols6900
To know he also gouged out one of her eyes as well,
omg - how horrific!!!!!! 😮
@@elphaba4674 I hear that! I have 2 teenage boys that somehow grew to be bigger than me in a year! I know they won't mess with me because I know they are afraid to. I'm only 5'4" and I let it be known that I will knock your knees out and kick you when you're down. I'm also not afraid to lose. Take your chances is what I tell them. Lol.
He didn't hide the bodies for the relatives, he hid them to keep from being caught to begin with. However, since he is so lazy he couldn't be bothered with finishing hiding things. Anybody see Joel Guy Jr in this guy.
The guy that makes these videos is not very smart.
Not even close
He wrote the most giant to do list how did he think he could do all that effectively lol 😝
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@@hollihawke I didn't think about that, good point
This detective must be a specialist she so patient and has such a calming demeanor it’s really impressive
Yes indeed, Detective Kelm is impressive. Here in Ottawa, I’ve heard her described as “The Mary Poppins of police investigators.” She is my hero! - Graham Gleddie (Merrill’s brother)
Good cop bad is so played out, nice to see progressive techniques
she must be a specialist! or, you must be a dumbass! really impressive
@@mr.anderson9938 There’s plenty of modern techniques being used. Like being sympathetic to presenting the crime to have a less serious impact in order to get the suspect to admit to the lesser offense, thereby affirming participation or motive.
The shouting, yelling detectives who get in the suspect's face tend to belong more in movies. Someone trying to get to know the suspect and speak softly to them and establish a rapport tend to get better results.
This lady can make her husband confess to cheating just by talking about the weather
Lol
"It's fine weather today? Hmm. Okay. And who were you with at that hotel on this fine day? 🥺"
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😂😂😂 true
This detective’s style of questioning is amazing; I hope to God that she never interrogates me, lest she makes me confess the chocolate chip cookie I took from the jar when I was 2.
I noticed the investigators in canada havr a different purpose then the states. It seems like guilt has been established and theyre trying to study the suspect instead.
It's okay, Hagos, you did, didn't you? Take that chocolate chip cookie? That must have been hard. Okay...
How did you feel after you took that cookie? Pretty bad, huh? Okay...
It’s probably actually a social worker with an officer present.
@@debshaw680 Absolutely. We have the same in Europe and we get confessions way easier this way. Make them feel all comfy and 'understood'.
He acts like him killing his parents is something that happened to him.
Awwwwwwwtism
@@Juliecmg stfu killing is wrong doesn’t matter what’s wrong with you.
@@kalulubamba53 Killing is wrong sure but that doesn't change the fact that it's fascinating to understand why killers do X thing. Julie isn't excusing his actions just explaining his behavior and how autistic people perceive the world. We literally would not be on these channels if we didn't find these things fascinating. I don't give a shit about these random people I just find things interesting.
Poor abused boy .. had little chores around the house. How utterly draconian of his parents!
trying to be the victim
I'm gonna lose part of my soul when my mom dies. I can't even fathom being in his shoes doing what he did. My heart just hurts watching this.
You're right. I've lost a huge part of my soul since losing my mother. This man is a monstrous freak.
Brandon, well said! I lost a part of my soul when our mother died (our mother died on 12 Oct 2020). I knew Merrill Gleddie Rogers well, and I can assure you that Merrill also lost a part of her soul when our mother died. I can’t imagine what Merrill was thinking when she lay on her kitchen floor, writhing in pain, slowly dying for 12+ hours, knowing her son had done this to her. What the episode doesn’t mention is that Cameron prepared food for himself (tiptoeing around his Mom) and then took it upstairs to eat.
FYI I couldn’t sleep, so was googling and came upon this Monsters episode this night. It’s well done. A monster indeed! I am Graham Gleddie (Merrill’s brother).
y'all must've missed the part that he was adopted. completely different type of bond, you're comparing apples to oranges.
@@normandseguin1627 - I'm very sorry for loss and I hope you're doing as good as you can. My mom died around the same time. I just wanted to say sorry.
Some ppl are fucked up
The detective is super smart. She’s adapted her communication style to suit the suspect & her questioning & reassuring manner was impeccable. She knew when to gently back off, change direction, then slowly slide back to gleaning the details of the murder again. 👌. Brilliant work!
The lady interviewing him is absolutely horrible! She repeatedly cuts him off when he's talking, keeps talking over him by saying "okay", is talking to him like a baby and is condescending. She also is telling him what to say and think at times. I don't know how this interview could be used in a court of law. It should be thrown out.
@@SunShinyDaysPlease I disagree
Uh huh.., yeah...yeah.?..,, ooooook.. Uh huh... Yup...yup..yea....i understand...oooook... Uh huh..., shes annoying a.f..
As a person that has been around so many people on the scale of autism, he sounds like he's definitely autistic.
The parents sound like they were trying to ease his stress and pressure; not control him but make life easier for him because of his inability to decide things.
My son 17 and is autistic. As soon as I heard his speech I immediately thought autism. I have a habit of trying to protect my son from awkward social moments and immediately cringed when he went to a job interview so I completely see where his parents may have been coming from.
Would you say based on your understanding of autism would he be able to fully understand the ramifications of his actions. Imo ive seen a lot of stories on here...this one is the saddest because i dont believe Cameron to be a dark individual as much as just a confused and conflicted individual with out the equal ability to rationalize the way other non-autistic individuals might.
@Bars for Biden Not saying what he did doesn't deserve consequences. However, understanding why someone has done something and the things that happened around them is good to know for better deterrence.
21:00 LMAO!!! I was so confused by the Transformers reference and it didn't hit me until a few seconds after the interrogation started back up. I can't stop laughing!!
Me too!!
I love how he just casually slips it into the commentary.. videos almost over and I’m still laughing😂
Hilarious
I went back to see if I missed something about the transformers before the banging clicked, I laughed as well.
Got me good. 😂
Nice emotional break from it all.
As someone with ADHD, the whole having no direction and losing interest quickly in things is something I’m very familiar with. Still haven’t killed anyone though, that’s a big plus.
This man is naive to ChrisChan levels.
Still? That’s sus👀
Hmmm ADHD is different than this man’s condition
@@claudiat.2662 Yea but adhd causes lack of motivation I have ADHD And it's so bad for me I never wanna leave my bed not even to shower or sometimes even eat I have to force myself
AGREED
Not every person with ADHD is the same. There are scientists, artists, musicians and loads of other high-functioning ADHDers that do get out of bed and get stuff done. They have to try really, really, really hard each day, though. Probably like other people without ADHD. Sometimes, it can be used as an excuse.
“Oh, you carved a killing stick? How cool!” one of your best snarky remarks ever!! LMFAO
I am a cop for over 15yrs. & I love your storytelling & commentary. Its like you verbalize my inner dialogue 🤘
I appreciate your service. Plz stay safe out here. It’s a crazy world we live in.
How many lives did you ruin because of your ego? I’m sure plenty..
Jajaja more wings on pigs
Keeps cracking me up lol
That's not something to be proud of, i wouldn't write it in some post anyway.
The police woman who interviewed him sounded like she was talking to a preschooler about another kid making him upset....🤔
Exactly. I'm a preschool teacher. We ask details, feelings, what happened before, after,etc., all in this very low, sensitive and caring voice. I do feel this guy has a significant disability,though. If he's acting, he definitely missed his calling.
@@sonjafrances7508 I agree about his disability but people with disabilities do know right from wrong in general. Sad story for sure.
@@tiffanyclark-grove1989 I agree,though I have experienced disabled people who have not realized the *wrong* until after the impulsivity has passed and it is too late. This guy is a puzzle,to me. If he is acting, wowza.
Exactly what i just commented. It's kind of annoying to me but I guess it worked for him.
@@sonjafrances7508 I agree about impulse control. I have worked with disabled folks for years, but this crime appears premeditated and extends beyond a momentary lapse of reason.
The detective sounds like my first grade teacher when she used to read books to us in a very calm and sweet voice 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️..
Yes! I am a preschool teacher and this is how I sound when talking to my young humans. I mean,I'm not asking them why they've killed their parents, though. 😩😭
it is kinda smart if you want to get more information out of someone. ive seen plenty where the cops go all wrong about it and shut down
Her tactic is perfect for this individual and works. She doesn’t even need to extract information. This guy is spilling it all, and with no lawyer present.
Which he doesn’t deserve, right?😇
@@ghoulishtoad She wasn't trying to find out if this guy killed his parents'; they already knew that. She was trying to find out if this guy was able to stand trial.
Giving her daughter a mans name became the accidental catalyst for women to get to choose combat training if they wanted. Says a lot about the power of a name, for sure.
So true! That"s why everybody calls me " boss" or even "queen"
And the combat team obviously never heard of Meryl Streep
Meryl is a neutral name. Was a weird story at best.
@@elisabethelias681 Are you a dominatrix...just saying!
Well, at least they get to choose. Maybe one day they'll get drafted and just get assigned it.
I understand that this guy has some problems ,but again it all comes down to knowing the difference between right and wrong and he clearly does ,planning was done here.
Just want to say that i really respect the fact that you put ways to reach out for help at the end of all your videos. Great quality as always, and top notch comedy to boot!!
I know this has been said so much, but I truly appreciate your abuse and suicide information at the end of your videos
I do too.
“Oh you carved your own killing stick?! How cool...” - The narrator (not the female investigator, she never said that, only the narrator did, ok? Cool?!)
Ikr...
I had to rewind that part to hear it again. I laughed at harder than was appropriate.
That caught my attention too 🥴🤣
Killing sticks have to be their own weapon class from now on.
Ban all assault killing sticks, we need to act now.
OMG that detective was so lovely. When the little freaking monster said he "made" a stick, she said, "Oh cool!". Gotta let the kids know that its good to be creative! I lol'd at that.
Yeah. I wish JCS could pump them out like this
Me too :,(
No doubt
same!
Word!
Same…still holding onto that patreon lol
I’d venture to say they wanted him to work up to the ability to hold a job by building his responsibility with chores at home first. They knew him well and wanted the best for him.
They probably knew that he couldn’t hold down a job, sounds like he was just a floater.
Agree but you start the training early not after baby huey is full grown ,entitled and not amiable to slave labor like sweeping a floor of the inch layer of Cheetos dust and mountain dew cans in his gaming area.
It sure wasn't a nuture issue, it definitely is a nature issue. I just read he could get parole in 20 years.
@@c_farther5208 this is Canada, you can safely assume he will be out quick as can be 🤯
@@c_farther5208 even less. He will probably be day paroled after a few years to a group home for adults with extra needs to assist them with living and be required to abide by a curfew and a few other things like having to hold a part time job (which living in the group home would probably be a part time job that they would all go to together as a group, when I worked packing grass seed for Brett Young years ago a group would come in for a few hours per day and put together boxes for us,) and he would probably be ordered to stay in some kind of supervised living situation for the rest of his life
Imagine your grinding herbs and out of nowhere your son who has never been violent suddenly stabs you, gouges your eye out and then goes about his day normally while you slowly die on the floor. Im in the kitchen like 😒
...and btw, there is something very wrong with this young man.
7
"grinding herb"
Ummm yea, he’s a damn Demon
I always wonder about this man's biological family and their medical, emotional, and cognitive functioning. This kind of behavior doesn't come out of thin air.
Laughed so hard at the Autobots Decepticons epic battle line that I woke up the dog, the cat, and the bf so now we're all watching the rest of this together.
Omg fukn same (minus a dog)
Fuck yes, atleast we all can find a laugh is this fucked up shit. 🤘
Yes !!! Loved this !!!!
🤣🤣🤣
I was about to make a joke about how the cops arrested Megatron after a domestic dispute with Starscream, but that was probably an actual storyline in those dogshit IDW comics.
It hurts me to think of hurting my mums feelings, let alone this 😢
Same here. This is unimaginable.
Yup, sickening to think your mom is crying for help and you do nothing...
Same!! My own kids think that way too. They get upset if they upset me. This dude is disgusting!!
@@melissamccleary9611 you must have raised some great kids. Disappointing my mom was always the worst feeling growing up. I feel sad for people who don't have good relationships with their parents.
I KNOW! Once as a teen I made my mom cry by locking her out of my room and I still can't think about it without feeling like an asshole. I could NEVER physically hurt her much less take her life. And I'd kill anyone who tried.
He HAS a life sentence. The twenty years refers to the earliest that he can apply for parole. It does not mean he will necessarily get parole. He may never get parole.
And he may get parole making it not a life sentence come to America we give you life without parole that's a real life sentence
@@TsGhosty ok cool
A lot of ppl get out on parole. Life should be life.
@@TsGhosty 💯
@@TsGhosty life without parole is 25 years with good behavior. It’s not actually life anymore.
Having worked both in nursing and as a life skills educator for adults with physical/mental disabilities...this guy truly gives me the creeps. He would be a client/patient I would not have turned my back on, or left an improvised weapon around.
Would you have suspected the depth of his depravity beforehand?
@@Mark-gg6iy Perhaps, after a few years in the business you can sense certain things.
Same, the clients we had in psych nursing you always had to be aware of your surroundings and where they were but this guy I wouldn't turn my back on.
Agree, your sensory system becomes honed over the years. You just either get a sense of potential danger or you just know.
You can tell this dude is not firing on all cylinders!! Salute for his mother’s service! My condolences to the family!🙏🏽
Gurl you pretty
@@malcolmblacctheicon bruh
I feel bad for him as well. He is not well and was also being forced, at 22 years of age, to be their personal servant at home, when what he wanted was to go out and get a job and start his own life. The poor guy has probably never even been on a date before.
All the more reason he shouldn't be out. Bet he's out in 5 years.
He couldn't have been that bad off intellectually if he passed high school with a mean grade level acceptable to even apply to college and then there's entrance exams as well. Not saying he was doing well in College but he did get in according to him.
I'm only a few minutes in, but the officer interviewing him is smooth and knows exactly how to talk to him. So calming and even. Impressive.
And manipulative.
Yes!!!! I thought the same. There is no judgment in her voice.
@@Amberwood243 All interrogations are manipulative that isn't a criticism of her that's just how interrogations work.
@@jessicajohnson4992 I agree that it was super manipulative. You think she talks like that to other suspects? They knew he had some sort of developmental disability and must likely should have beer accompanied by someone during interview, feasibly a lawyer. Not sure how Canada laws work so idk for its legality.
@@smilekyle5906 Well yes, understandably they were unavailable at the time of interrogation. But that still shouldn't constitute the abuse of his legal rights. Watched a video lawyer lecturing law students and there was a cop guest speaker as well. He had a bullet point presentation on why u should NEVER talk to police without lawyer (guilty or innocent) He was adamant there is never ever any benefits from doing so. Everything can be used against you but nothing you say will ever be used for your benefit guaranteed. Perhaps you mistakenly told them the wrong time you left home for work b4 a murder? Realistically you'd have a hard time retracting and revising it.. They'd have your statement locked in. Point is dude here is "special special" obvious from the get go they should have depth legal counsel to decide how to legally proceed with interview. But that would be too much like right I guess.
Dying mother laid there moaning for HOURS and Cameron talked to his uncle during this time telling the uncle that both parents are FINE...May Cameron rot in hell!
yeah i feel like he's putting an act in this interrogation
Right? 20 years is a slap on the wrist 🙄
Thank you for this.........WOW! he certainly knew how to clean up, he even used a steam cleaner! These poor parents had no idea, my deepest condolences to their families 😔
IF he was "slow" he couldn't have been so meticulous in cleaning up, leaving , travelling, going to university.....
Sitting through the overnight shift at our local hotel and enjoying the show! Thanks!💚🙏💚
I was doing the same!!! Night auditor power
#excellte
#goodshow
Story of my life
I will call your boss to tell
@@danielerhaben1895 you bastard
He actually thought it would be fast and simple to kill a military bad-ass. I’m not surprised it took a long time for her to die (what an impressive background she had!) - if she was younger, I bet she could have managed to successfully fight him off and survive. That was so sad to hear that she suffered a lot. RIP to both mum and dad.
Weird take on it.
@@simonw1313
How so?
Being a "bad ass" doesn't magically make you survive being stabbed better. It just so happened that the wounds he inflicted weren't immediately lethal like the stab wound to his father's lung was.
@@ahall9839
Yes, but you are helping me make my point… Because her stab wounds weren’t lethal right away, if she were younger and in better shape, she would’ve had more of a chance to fight him off and survive. I don’t think my take is weird at all.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 holy shit you're fucking thick
I’ve had an interest in this case for a little while and was bummed that no true crime podcast I could find had covered him. I’m glad you came in clutch :)
Did the judge didn’t have time to comb his hair that morning?
@@josetovar1321 That’s Cameron’s attorney actually.
My favorite part of your video was the supportive information at the end, educating and encouraging victims how and where to get help. The documentary was amazing too! Great work
That investigators voice is so relaxing
Baby gloves for the baby.
Just what I was thinking. Her voice is like silk
I just got flabbergasted when she asked calmly like a small talk:
"What did you feel you accomplished by killing them" like wtf
She was perfect to speak to him. It was frustrating to listen to but at the same time she made him feel calm and comfortable so he was open to continue talking and talking!
She was very good!
I'm ready to tell her ALL my secrets!
Me: wakes up at 2am and can’t fall back asleep “fuck”
Also Me: “Oh Hey, Monsters!”
What is it about 2am? I wake up at that time nearly everyday!
Same!
Exactly. LoL 🤣🤣🤣
I'm up at 4:44 am every morning, which is 2 hours 16 minutes before my alarm, and it pisses me off 😆. I understand your pain.
I just found this channel, and I instantly like it! :)
I can see why people would binge watch it.
Your commentary is so blunt and straight forward I love it
This interrogator is amazing. I just recently started watching more Canandian crime stories on here and the thing that sticks out the most is how different their interrogations are compared to us over in the US
This is a famous case and famous interview. The level of skill by the interrogator is incredible, especially given who the suspect was: "On February 7, 2010, Williams was interrogated at the police headquarters by OPP Detective Staff Sergeant Jim Smyth. Williams was confronted with the evidence gathered so far starting at 3:00 p.m. with the interrogation lasting approximately 10 hours overall. By 7:45 p.m. Williams had begun confessing to his crimes."
ruclips.net/video/lj7QRP37Wn0/видео.html
Have you ever seen how they interrogate in the UK? I just shake my head every time I see an interrogation.
Cop: asks a question
Suspect: no comment
Cop: asks a question
Suspect: no comment
and it carries on like that for at least an hour or more worth of questions and no comments. I don't know how you can waste so much time after the first five no comment answers.
That banging is a prisoner banging on the cell door- know this sound very well lol
I knew I recognized the sound!
There’s nothing worse when you’re there for the night and trying to get some shut eye 😴🗣💥🥁🗯💤😡🤬🤬🔪🤡😴
@@weegreeneyes3196 Ugg, its awful.
I was like W T F is that? I loud cart?!??!
Since when is the prison at a police station? The police station houses a few holding cells. The prison is normally a separate building.
The way that lady is interrogating him , I feel like this is very Canadian. She seems so nice!
A very US way of thinking of Canadians.
@@brentrichards1200 naw, the whole world thinks that Canada is too nice to criminals, and too light on their sentencing. It’s not a US thing to think that Canada’s too soft on crime, plenty of true crime channels and podcasts from other countries say that Canada is too nice to criminals and too light on sentencing murderers. Five years for murder is considered unthinkable in every civilized country, except for Canada.
It’s a tactic
I think their soft interrogation techniques are on point, they just need to become more harsh for their sentencing when it comes to this type of thing
He is probably heavily sedated, so taking a calm approach is probably related to his high level of medication. Canada has certain things they are harsh on, like domestic violence, and sex crimes. Canada has the option for courts to rule sex offenders to be chemically castrated, which is still very controversial in the USA.
I dont think he "draws the line at lying" as if he that's too immoral for him, I think he was just being literal with what he said and he wouldn't be able to lie, as in, he knew he was bad at it and literally wouldn't be able to do it convincingly
Good point. Not trying to lump people with disabilities all together. But my best friend all through junior and HS had FAS Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. He told me directly that he quite literally cannot tell a lie. He can't keep it straight or even remember to even tell the lie. I know this because he myself and two other friends snuck out of my dad's house in HS and asked people at the corner store to by us booze. My dad found out the next morning we were all drinking and I got sick thanks to my step brother lol. I told my buddy with FAS to lie and i told him what to say he got really flustered and agitated he said no i can't do it i can't lie. Not because he thought it was wrong but quite literally he could nor formulate a lie. I have a som now that has autism and Di George Syndrome. He cannot lie to save his life he doesn't even try.
I said the same thing!!! Great minds
True, but he DID lie about going to the Appalachian trail before changing that lie to be that he was going to a sex party. Which is why he never made it across the border 🤔
I appreciate your methodical way of analyzing, investigating and personal opinion inputs. You do amazing work. Thank you.
The officer interviewing him is so calm, like she's talking to a child about missing cookies.
She’s not an officer dude
You guys must be fun at parties.
I mean the guy is autistic and I'm also autistic so like talking to him in a more sympathetic way is more helpful to get out info from him. Yelling at the kid isnt gonna do anything.
@@beastmonsterthing6563 damn. And gay? Sorry dude. I hope you're not a gambler.
What a perfect way to repay the people who took you in and became your parents when your biological one's wouldn't. Disgusting how he decided to gouge out his mother's eye...
Being adopted doesn’t mean that you owe your parents anything more than you would owe your biological parents that took care of you. Him being adopted is beside the point. I have 6 sons, 3 adopted, they all owe us the same amount of respect and love. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending this psycho who killed his parents! I just never want any of my kids to think they owe me more because I didn’t birth them. I hope you understand.
@@Michelle_Mack I don't think she ment owed them but.They did something that changed his life for the better and he did something that ended their lives. He was mad bc his parents made him go to college that's called entitlement they wanted what was best for him.and he was a terrible human being
@@morphsanmore2324 I understand. I hope my kids never kill us or anyone, adopted or not. There’s just a lot of bad stereotypes that adopted kids turn on their parents and it’s so so so so rare! I think they’ve got enough pressure and don’t need extra pressure added- they don’t owe anything more than any other kid. I hope I haven’t offended anyone, that wasn’t my intention, at all!
@Sandra Turajlich I am so sorry that you went through that! My biological mother rejected me, but she never gave me up for adoption and instead she tried to make my life miserable, I’m 42 now and haven’t spoken to her in years. We want our parents to love us - but sometimes they can’t, because they have problems- not you. I respect my mother and keeping a distance is the best way to do that. I pray that you find peace! God in heaven is my father, his love is all that we need.
@@Michelle_Mack nicely put
This man sounds like a child. That poor, innocent couple. They adopted a child that needed a family, and this is how he repaid them. So sad and tragic,
Even though he had decent grades and was somewhat “book smart” he really does speak like he is socially incompetent and maybe developmentally delayed. I was surprised to hear he was 22.
@@Donutsmakemegonuts exactly, book smart is just that and does not represent overall functioning skills and common sense.
He's autistic - lots of autistic people talk this way (speaking as an autistic person, my speech patterns are exactly like this when I'm distressed or unsure what to do in a given situation). Doesn't excuse the murders, but perfectly nice and pleasant people also speak like this
@@Peppysgirl I saw that as well but it wasn’t confirmed officially that he was diagnosed. Although it would make sense.
Repaid them? He didn't ask to be adopted. Would you say the same thing about a kid who murdered his biological parents?
Family and friends think they know at heart how a person is. But sometimes there's things going on behind closed doors that others don't get to find out nor believe.
The real star of this story should've been that Grandma who lived to 103!
for real ! lol
A stark warning against the dangers of whittlin’ 😞
I SO tried not to laugh at this comment but I think it was a bit of therapy to do so. Hard to wrap my head around this one...🤔
Omg this is hilarious
I’m at work and this made me LOL!!
😂
Brilliant!!
Interviewer: how did she react when she got stabbed?
His mom: I think I'm more disappointed than I am stabbed
you can tell she will still love him after life even tho (This was heartless still even )tho he did say “I seen my mom in pain and I couldn’t do nothing about it “ I could never do that or see my mom that way
By far my favorite true crime channel!
Side note: Your Canada comment is so true. Did you know that when convicted for murder in Brazil some qualify to get 5 weeks every year of temp release? Like a freaking vacation from prison, it's insane!
I wouldn't want him near me after only 20 years. A 20 year old killer isn't turned into a good 40 year old citizen with government run counseling.
The way you tell jokes so dryly, a good things, tickles my funny bone.
Super impressed with the interviewer. Her voice was very soothing too
im impressed with your lameness
The lady interviewing him is absolutely horrible! She repeatedly cuts him off when he's talking, keeps talking over him by saying "okay", is talking to him like a baby and is condescending. She also is telling him what to say and think at times. I don't know how this interview could be used in a court of law. It should be thrown out.
I had already watched his interrogation and the detective is absolutely amazing, love her! And your comments helped answer a lot of questions I had. Never understood why he said he needed a visa to enter the US as a Canadian citizen for example. Thanks so much for this video. And I did want to share some thoughts. Although of course there is absolutely no justification for his monstrous acts and the terrible suffering his parents experienced at his hands, my heart goes out to them and their loved ones. However a few thoughts crossed my mind as I was hearing him sort of explain why he did it. I think there are several important things to listen to. I was a care worker with disabled children and young adults for people who lived at home. I would take them out to do activities. And many times these children and young adults would express a lot of frustration at the fact that their parents over protected them and they felt they had very little agency in their lives. Also the fact that he was a single child and so all his parents' attention was set on him can be very heavy. I want to repeat that I am not in any way justifying his actions. He obviously has some other factors that made him into a killer, which the vast majority of people would never do, whatever their disability or mental health issues. Nonetheless his message is important and it is a problem for a lot of children and young adults, especially those living with disabilities. I don't know whether he ever got to see a councillor, or a careers councillor, but that might have helped make him feel a little more control of his life.
posting at 2am? perfect!!
Your narration is just amazing,
‘No shit Sherlock’
had me rolling!!
Love everything you do on this Channel ... Amazing
Seriously spit my coffee out of my nose when he said that 😂
@@sheilameador2755 same made my hubby jump 🤣🤣
I get what the narrator was going for, but that was a real response
Wouldnt say amazing
Yea I don’t care how brutal a murder is soon as they say it’s in Canada I’m like yep life 25 years!! What a joke that country is. To me life is life. If 25 years is life I should have been dead 18 years ago!Do people not live that long in that country? I can understand if it was little house on the prairie days! Yea you lived to be 40 you were ancient.
every person in this story sounds like a kids in the hall character.
Some of them are David, some are just Dave.
Eh
You freakin nailed it! Lmao
“In England everyone only has one spoon”
Lol
In Canada, the sentence for first degree murder is life with the possibility of parole after 25 years.
Paul Bernardo was sentenced as mentioned above in 1995 - he's still in prison. He was also declared a dangerous offender. He can apply for parole, which is infuriating, but it's very unlikely that he'll ever be released.
Clifford Olsen, a child serial killer, died in prison after serving 29 years.
Russel Williams will probably never be released
He was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole in 20 years.
I understand that he is not getting not going to get out. No chance. And really he shouldn't he's got no skills for life. And certainly none for getting along in polite Society.
Lol yes he will it's in Canada. We release murderers with slaps on the wrist all the time.
Christine Roberts just like England
He doesn't deserve parole for killing two people
@@christineroberts133 actually, no we don't. We now give multiple life sentences and we have dangerous offender statuses which will guarantee you will never get out. You may be thinking of back when we had the "hope clause" which was taken away back in the 90's. I have seen many people apply for parole, Paul Bernardo for example, who will never get out yet he is up to apply on June 22.
So, where’d you get that stick... I carved it... I had a lot of time in the summer.
You forgot the "oh cool" from the detective
To be fair, plenty of people carve sticks. We just don't use them to attack people
Sounds like the perfect time to have a job...
@@hazelmill20 according to him his parents didn’t approve of him wanting to get a job. Actually something I saw often when motivated parents who had drive, focus, and great long term planning had children on the spectrum who may not have the same though they’re still relatively high functioning. Parents try to help and guide their kids into what they think will be in their best interest in the long run. An extra layer of them “guiding” /“controlling” him in one direction more than another occurs even past the point when parents would usually lessen this when their children become older because of the added disorder and thus more want to protect. It’s understandable but a point of huge frustration on all involved. Behavioral therapists and assistants can help with this a LOT.
@@rudeanne i know lol. My point was his parents would still be alive if they’d “let” him get a job
He's not all there upstairs and I'm finding it hard to see him as just another murderer. Wow. He's cold like a psychopath except he seems very confused by being questioned and even the questions themselves. Tragic
Yeah this seems to be a genuine case of confusion and dissociation. I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I wonder if his defense tried the insanity plea. It almost looks like he partially fits it in the interview. (Not fully though, but some screws seem lost not just loose about this situation).
I agree - he definitely seems somewhat developmentally challenged. And the tears he shed at his mothers agony that she was in for hours seemed incredibly genuine. Though again he could have called for help or even "end her suffering" but he did neither.
Of Mice and Men...
I agree he’s clearly mentally not able to make decisions for himself
Right, just the way he talked and not even having a real reason for killing them? I mean, because he graduated with a B average in high school and was studying engineering at college and doing well enough, I don't know if that necessarily means that he didn't have some kind of mental episode?
I saw this interview on another channel but it didn't have any background information about the parents. Meryl was a badass! That military training cv she had, wow! No wonder he could only kill her with her back turned.
He acts strange and unemotional but there is clearly something wrong with him.
that is literally how autism looks like. having autism makes people seem apathetic in behavior, but it doesnt mean everyone with autism is a monster. its just a different form of how autistic people convey emotion.
@@azzymerlot so true, thank you
@@azzymerlot exactly!
@@azzymerlot there is nothing 'wrong' with autistic people. they just have to drive their brains manual
yes he has something very wrong with him, he still breathing ......
The way he was able to go from bawling his eyes out to completely emotionless in one second is very scary. This case is so very tragic 😢
And he conveniently slips into the delayed way of talking , I’m sure he has a slight speech impediment but he was definitely switching back and forth throughput the video
Crocodile tears. Vicious, murdering, manipulating savage.
@@DylanRomanov And he conveniently gives very detailed, unnecessary, incriminating facts despite being so calculating and mentally intact to want to fake his speech. GTFOH.
Consider the facts at hand here. 4 instance he doesn't even have a motive. He begins the assault with a carved wooden stick.😅 The guy is clearly not alright mentally. You're judging his actions as if he were a regular murderer.He is not, he is disabled in the brain. One cannot predict how he will talk or act and more importantly how he will kill.
The 911 Operator though
"Mmh, oké, oké"
This one's tragic because the man clearly suffers from psychiatric issues and has a relative idea of the degree of gravity of his actions. In his 911 confession he was like a little boy trying to make things right and waiting for someone to compliment him on it. So sad for the victims.
playing dumb is what it is. plus fake crying. pretty cringy.
I'm autistic and I don't kill people. Not every autistic person is the same, though, and I can only speak for myself.
Autism = murder
@@TH3HOLYJ3BUS 😆
@@TH3HOLYJ3BUS lol
@@donniethezombie4495 people think we're subhuman?
Some schizophrenic people commit murders (look up Vince Lee, he was found not criminally responsible). My dad was schizophrenic and bi polar and he never murdered anyone. It’s upsetting when people think all people who have a mental illness would be criminals. In reality it’s a very small percentage and actually more often people who commit murders do not have any mental illness
I have been binge watching your videos. This is better than anything I have watched on TV and the best part: no commercial breaks.
Same here
You should try the channel ThatChapter too
@@zaziscool101 That's also on my binge list. And "Coffeehouse Crime". Very similar format as Mike's from TC.
@@MsRedwiz I love coffee house crime too! I watch all 3 religiously
Dang, gotta hate when ya handcarved killin' stick isn't up to snuff...
I was like “let me see this stick” and then when I saw it I thought to myself “yep, that’s a killin’ stick right there.”
@@galacticunicorn6319 where did you see the stick?
@@LegendaryBilly it's shown in the video at 15:20.
@@NotAnotherKuromi 15:24 *not actual weapon*
I remember hearing about some foster families that sued the agencies that they had been given of the person in their regard but information about their psychotic nature of the child being placed in their home.
MONSTER TIME BABEY!! my insomnia is benefiting me tonight!!
Same!
Oh yes 👍🏽
Same! I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Everyone talking about insomnia and there’s me listening while eating my breakfast 0_0
Same 🤣
Me to lol
Prolly woke my whole house up I laughed so loud 😂😂😂
3:48am in Florida
I’m about to have dinner 😊 it’s nearly 6pm
That operator when he was phoning in his confession was terrible. He sounded like he was fed up and couldn’t be bothered with the call at first. Another person might have been put off and hung up and then they might have missed out on information. Even if he didn’t necessarily think it was true, is it really so much to change your tone of voice?
Yes seemed annoyed and put out. I was a 911 dispatcher for 20 years. Treat every situation as true is what I was taught. Like just because you have a small child on the phone doesn't mean it's a prank. Younger children have called about parents that are sick and were able to perform CPR until we could get paramedics there.
I don't know much about 911 in Canada, but yeah, this seemed really weird for an emergency call. The guy was passive aggressive from the first second of the call and the idea that if the person was having trouble giving you an address you'd just be like, well, get me one or go fuck yourself is ridiculous. Land line phones most often provide an address immediately and if it's a cell phone they usually have a registered address that shows up.
Yes!!! Thank you! I was yelling at the jerk 911 operator too! Reminds me of the jerk 911 operator who mocked a woman for being scared as drowned….told the woman she was being hysterical…and the woman died. 911 operators need to be very carefully vetted.
I love how he killed his parents for trying to help him figure out what he wanted to do in life
And then struggled to figure out what to do with his life.
It's not really that strange that he is detached. I have Asperger's so on some very distant distant level I understand. When you are on the spectrum one of the things we do is obsess and I don't just mean like a little bit of anxiety I mean we all day, all the time, over and over and over obsess over such a small thing that really isn't a thing can be to that person could be to them the thing that consumes them. He said about being made to go to school for something he didn't want to and no control over money. Well he would relive even a small conversation in his head coming up with different versions of the conversation live out to things that may not even happen. He would be there in his head getting more angry and more angry to where he snapped. I don't obsess to that extreme also years and years of therapy to retrain my brain to recognize those thinking traps. But for me when I get upset it can be something small like not being able to find my hair clip I would feel it start in my chest then next thing I know I'm crying on the floor. I'm definitely not defending him at all just my thoughts on how his mind might have been working. But like it doesn't cost anything to go to family court and he could have filed a claim to get the judge to tell his parents to let him have control over his life. He would have had his freedom and his parents would still be alive. And his emotionless demeanor is a thing too someone could be crying in front of me and I would feel nothing. Doesn't matter if I am close to them or not I don't recognize emotions. But I do have emotions and can recognize my own. Well yup a novel for ya but that's my nickle on the matter. (Ya know sense Canada got rid of the penny 🤷)
Oh yeah and our justice system is designed to rehabilitate not punish. That's why you get max sentence of 25 years Paul Bernardo has a parole hearing on the 22 so yay! 🙄🤦😔
I’m on the spectrum too and couldn’t have said it better
@@genesistafari9006 yay for self awareness! It was a long row to hoe but I finally got here. Have a challenge this week, I'm supposed to take notice to ways people aren't stupid for CT. Day one.... con list -2 pages, pro- ? Hmmmmm........🤔 Well thanks for replying I think it helps to know our community is bigger than we think.
His parents frustrated him by not teaching or even allowing him to gain life skill. The interviews with him showed how obviously naive he was about life and consequences.
Yeah I have family members who have Asperger's and Autism and with the majority, that's their biggest noticeable trait is being sort of emotionally detached and more logical or matter of fact
@@emilyreviews1987 lol yes I agree ☝🏽
Yes! Thank you! I went to bed way too early and I'm up at 3am. My brain must've known this was coming up 😊 I guess Meryl Streep's mom wasn't aware of this not being a female name either. 😉
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@Jennifer Rose Bruce I've personally never heard of it as man's name. I wonder if he was thinking of Merle like Merle Haggard instead of Meryl? Two different pronunciations. Or he's just dumb 🙄
Actually, some trivia about Streep is that Meryl is her nickname that her father called her and she used it as her stage name. Her name is Mary Louise 😍
@@WallysMama I thought it was probably a Hollywood name, like they do in Hollywood, but went with the comment anyway 😄
@@tross8863 i always thought female name. I knew a meryl growing up, never occured to me as a male name 🤷🏻♀️
Feel so bad for his uncle who was on the phone to him as is was going on.
If youre sentenced to life in Canada, you serve 25 years, and you are reviewed for parole. The most violent criminals in Canada get 25 years, but its very unlikely that they will get paroled after that 25 years is up. Effectively a life sentence.