Confused Horse Doesn't Trust People

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • In this video Ryan works with a horse that has had some abuse history and is having trouble trusting people.
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  • @ryanrosehorsemanship
    @ryanrosehorsemanship  Год назад +37

    Thanks for for watching! If you would like to see more detail training videos and to get coaching on your horse please consider joining my Patreon page go to www.patreon.com/ryanrosehorsemanship.

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад

      Updated by owner: 3 weeks ago we saw Ryan. thanks for all the comments: to clarify- this horse has been vetted thoroughly and her tongue checked by a vet and a bit recommended by the vet. She was not treated well by a past owner. She also has successfully worked with kids for 2 years in a kids lesson program. She has helped hundreds of kids learn to ride BEFORE she started acting out about 4 months ago when she was pulled from the program. The video excerpts you saw were a one off situation of us recently restarting her back with trainers and a vets advise and using only our intermediate kids with supervision. She escalated in a 24 Hr period and reared for the very first time at which we instantly brought her to Ryan the next day. She is no longer working with kids and won’t again if the tools and training we are applying do not result in her wanting that job. We are a very safe and knowledgeable barn that puts the welfare of our kids and our horses above all else. Because we care we are willing to talk to the expertS and do what is right and never give up on learning and growing as humans. There’s never a bad horse, just bad humans!!!!! Please realize this. The horse has done a 100% turn around already in 3 weeks and is already responding to Ryan’s amazing Fundamental program, we highly recommend it. We have consistently applied it the last 3 weeks and she is happy and calm and reminds us of the horse we knew four months ago before this began. We will continue to work with our local trainer and with her and have high hopes she will be the horse we know, understanding us and us her!!! Thanks again Ryan!!!!!

    • @beffis1980
      @beffis1980 Год назад +5

      You work with horses like my mom. She was a jockey for 30 years but trained her own horses since she was 4 with the help of my trainer papa. I’ve watched her with thousands of horses over the years. I love your thought process and how you are mindful of the horses needs. Baby steps to the bigger picture! Love it love you

    • @MiddletonStables-Hunterbean
      @MiddletonStables-Hunterbean 12 дней назад

      Update- 1 year later our beautiful mare is relaxed, happy, and understood better now than ever. She works with beginners now with a much more calm and thoughtful attitude. As someone always a student of learning- the more we learn the more we find we don’t know- this is no different in the horse world. To all the people who have been our barn thru our journey, we KNOW, all of us how amazing these two horses are, and how much we are blessed with them in our lives! Thanks again to Ryan, our local trainer, and all the clients who have had the opportunity to experience these amazing animals here at Middleton Stables!!!

  • @donnac.1609
    @donnac.1609 Год назад +79

    Such a nice mare. To be abused and yet be soft in her behavior. The fits she threw were signs of confusion, not meanness! She is certainly worth the effort to school in what hands seat and legs are! Once she understands she will probably be ok for teaching kids....the teacher should be able to see what is happening between horse and student and do the "teaching"....to prevent problems!

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +14

      Yes! We are doing just that and have been for 5 Months and thankfully we met Ryan and he is leading us down the right path. Already in past 3 weeks she’s improved tremendously

    • @donnac.1609
      @donnac.1609 Год назад +5

      @Cherie Middleton Thank you for the update! Congratulations and give yourself a pat on the back!!

    • @finngamesknudson1457
      @finngamesknudson1457 25 дней назад

      @@Middletonstablesllc- Any further update since last year? I’d guess you’ve pretty much resolved everything by now.

    • @MiddletonStables-Hunterbean
      @MiddletonStables-Hunterbean 12 дней назад

      Honestly both my horses are amazing! My mare in the video is extremely sensitive and kind and has come so far that my 13 yr old rider just today won Grand Champion on her in the show! We have applied all the tools and horsemanship and love Ryan asked and our amazing Local Trainer works with us and our horses and kids every week! God is good and answers all prayers and I’m super happy to report that She and my retired eventer are happy and well adjusted !!

  • @tamsentempleman1544
    @tamsentempleman1544 5 месяцев назад +4

    That was a beautiful moment, seeing that sweet mare responding to Ryan's calm way of going, his wonderful ability to understand a well meaning creature's confusion.

  • @markmcmeen287
    @markmcmeen287 Год назад +35

    Awesome video ! You constantly reflect what Ray Hunt used to say, " Horses are a living, breathing, decision making being. Treat them with respect. Remember, you walked into their life .... they didn't walk into yours." Keep up the good work!

  • @snickersandkaytie
    @snickersandkaytie Год назад +26

    "I notice whether or not when she's with me as the herd. This starts our connection.. " Nice!
    What a lucky horse that she had Ryan to correct her in a way she could meet his request. So simple! Yet so enlightening for both horse and owner.

    • @ginnychibbaor4578
      @ginnychibbaor4578 Месяц назад

      Hope woman has learned something, AND REMEMBERING

  • @Stephanie-lm7sp
    @Stephanie-lm7sp 6 месяцев назад +3

    Wow....thank you Ryan. I'd love for Ryan to do an episode on empathy and non judgemental comments. I know everyone on his channels are experts, so why are you here.
    As RR states...
    He has thousands of horses under his belt.
    His expert as hundreds of thousand hours.
    Could we all look inside ourselves and give people a break?
    These people asking Ryan for help are out now to the world.
    How would you stack up?
    Me? I'm def an equestrian of 50 years. I'm not perfect and I love my Dressage and Liberty lessons every week.
    Bless you Ryan and all your clients for being brave enough to live inside barns made of windows.
    🙏🐎💜

    • @april-tt7dp
      @april-tt7dp 23 дня назад

      I agree with you 1000%... totally judgy. People will make mistakes, at least she is willing to be humble enough to ask and learn. I am just getting into horses myself for my love of them and there is a huge learning curve but if you love them and want to learn, who is anyone to criticize. Instead of making hateful comments, why not try to support her and give her more advice and encouragement? Good Lord.

  • @kidstuff44555
    @kidstuff44555 Год назад +80

    Honestly, if I bought a horse who's tongue had been almost severed by a bit, I'd be riding that horse bitless. I'm not a "bits are all bad" person, but that just seems fair to me. Don't put another bit in that poor horse's mouth, how can you expect her to have any good association with it

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +25

      So we hadn’t looked at her tongue injury in 2 years since we bought her and apon a second look- it now looks like a healed cut in one side. That being said- we didn’t and haven’t made anything worse- the cut is better - we also had a vet look at it and the type of Tom Thumb we are using - very thick cushioned bit- that doesn’t hit or bother her past injury, and she likes it over many many other bits. I also purchased a bosel and am going to learn the right hands and reins to ride it with her since she’s sensative

    • @kidstuff44555
      @kidstuff44555 Год назад

      @@Middletonstablesllc That's all good to hear :) I hope everything works out for you guys and this horse

    • @saspinks3001
      @saspinks3001 Год назад +11

      @@Middletonstablesllc Bravo to you for being open minded about alternative to bits!

    • @lynettedundon1410
      @lynettedundon1410 Год назад

      ​@@Middletonstablesllcthere's hackamores to try too if those don't work.( And a side pull).

    • @Heavens-Humanaterian-Army
      @Heavens-Humanaterian-Army 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Middletonstablesllcso happy to hear your moveing away from the old ways I wish more people lernt it's about a connection and relationship to therebrain and not reliance on heavy duty hardware. Warick Schiller is the best for learning how to realy have a relationship with your animals.

  • @irenecoermann2439
    @irenecoermann2439 Год назад +15

    What a lovely horse. And a lovely lady going the extra mile to do right by her.

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +4

      Thank you for noticing- I love her and have been working very hard to learn to listen to her- this has been a journey for sure of love, respect and patience

    • @krisbaker9427
      @krisbaker9427 Год назад +2

      I hope she begins to understand horses better. Her lack of understanding is the problem.

  • @lisashavlik2264
    @lisashavlik2264 Год назад +12

    Great lesson; love the explanation that the horse is just not understanding some things, not that she is becoming mean or defiant.

  • @cindybrygman4350
    @cindybrygman4350 Год назад +24

    Beautiful horse, she is a very smart horse, a real thinker but I think she is tired of the nagging with inexperienced riders. Once Ryan gave her freedom to think and choose she was very willing. She is well aware what to do and just needs the rider to trust and not hold her so much. Same with when she was led in, the owner assumed she was nervous of the new area and held her closely yet tried to walk her at the same time. Ryan took over, gave lots of space and carried on with no hesitation. Great learning video!

    • @kitkakitteh
      @kitkakitteh Год назад +2

      It wasn’t the space. It’s that she doesn’t like her owner. The owner probably focuses on the kids, and blames or fusses at the horse when things go ‘not perfectly’.

    • @gaywalker2117
      @gaywalker2117 23 дня назад

      ​@@kitkakittehThe owner was uptight and tense. The horse did not trust her as a leader. The mare immediately recognised the Ryan was a trustworthy leader and she relaxed.

    • @gaywalker2117
      @gaywalker2117 23 дня назад

      In my opinion the horse is too sensitive to be used with inexperienced riders. Maybe when she has a bitless bridle, she may do better.

  • @Leslie-es5ij
    @Leslie-es5ij Год назад +21

    I was a horse trainer for over forty years, the biggest problem was with horse owners, training them was tougher than the horse.

    • @joe-ut9kb
      @joe-ut9kb 7 месяцев назад +2

      Same for dog owners also.

  • @ceceliapeterson4648
    @ceceliapeterson4648 Год назад +20

    Check her eyes. I had a paint like this - beautiful! My horse was a gelding. He started rearing and refusing. He started being scary overnight. I had the vet check him and he was partially blind in one eye. He was a great horse but I had to work with him on a different softer level.

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 Год назад +5

      Vision loss can be subtle, especially when a horse is secure in a familiar setting.

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +6

      This is probably the only thing we haven’t done in the past year- great suggestion

    • @melanies.6030
      @melanies.6030 Год назад +4

      This is interesting, and something I've often wondered about with horses that consistently shy at white lines on pavement for instance, or dark shadows. It seems we take for granted that all horses have good eyesight. Without my glasses, I'd be nervous too!

    • @realisticequestrian8229
      @realisticequestrian8229 Год назад +5

      Came to the comments to say the same. She hesitated to walk into the shady area with the fly mask on. Ryan walked her without it and she followed willingly!

    • @privatemailcall6011
      @privatemailcall6011 Год назад

      I've never been a fan of covering the horses eyes. Never have used face masks with eye screens. Research finds Pros & Cons. Some are contradictory. All specify an imperative need for properly measured fit, and all state the importance of a clean & washed mask, fresh daily, and to have a few extra masks on hand, to rotate while washing others. The emphasis on clear vision and unencumbered sight, from behind the eye screens, looking out, does vary accordingly. Most agree about slight variations that do perhaps interrupt or block clear vision path. Others claim using same masks for sun protection. I recall when the fad started. I didn't care for the apparatus nor feel the neec. . I think masks block this & that.. It all depends. Good & perhaps negative too. I feel as though, placing a screen over the eyes, could distort free & clear vision. It reasons. However, ask your Equine Veterinarian. They studied for 16 years. They know the eyes requirements & capabilities. I prefer to use excellent quality repellent made from several natural botanicals & essential oils. My horses are brought inside well before dark. Bathed & sprayed. Fans above. No bugs.

  • @alexlehane1470
    @alexlehane1470 Год назад +11

    Saving the world one horse a time but changing peoples perspective across the world, Amazing thank you

  • @bridgetbold6867
    @bridgetbold6867 Год назад +5

    Gosh he works just like Steve Young in the UK, what a beautiful animal, such a shiny coat.

  • @snickersandkaytie
    @snickersandkaytie Год назад +17

    "I'm not a great bronc rider at all." 😅 this guy has a good way of saying things

    • @horseman9582
      @horseman9582 Год назад +7

      I’m a professional horsebreaker and I’m no great bronc rider either. But I never found one that could buck me off the end of the lead rope! 👍

  • @enj01sk8t3r
    @enj01sk8t3r 2 месяца назад +3

    Man what a cool little mare!

  • @1jazzyphae
    @1jazzyphae Год назад +112

    I'm so grateful for this channel. I've learned so much from you. Hands down the best trainer I've seen. You treat the people and animals with so much kindness and respect.

    • @ryanrosehorsemanship
      @ryanrosehorsemanship  Год назад +7

      Thank you

    • @Fireworks_are_Awesome
      @Fireworks_are_Awesome Год назад +2

      Same!!

    • @lizarutherford2477
      @lizarutherford2477 Год назад +8

      I can highly recommend the patreon page. It’s awesome. I’ve been a member for over a year. It’s been the best value for money ever. It’s transformed my relationship with my horse.😊

    • @marcyking461
      @marcyking461 Год назад +5

      Back in my riding days, I had a wonderful rescue horse that had been abused, who (after six years of bonding and building trust) tuned out to be the envy of the barnyard. It takes a gentle hand and a lot of patience to train a horse properly. It is so much easier to train a foal than to work with an older horse that has had traumatic experiences, but if you can get them past the fear, there are some wonderful horses out there who deserve to be saved (and loved). Ryan's training methods are top notch, no doubt about it.

    • @1jazzyphae
      @1jazzyphae Год назад

      @@ryanrosehorsemanship you're welcome!!!

  • @Doktracy
    @Doktracy 6 месяцев назад +3

    After 55 years of horsemanship I’ve come to decide that we put too many human feelings into our horses brains rather than trying to think like a horse. Thinking fear,prey animal,pressure,release,trust and rewards are a better way for me to understand horses. Also, horse’s brains don’t connect from one side to another so everything needs to be trained completely on each side. That doesn’t make them “stupid” or “stubborn”,just a new idea altogether when they see or feel something on the other side.

  • @freedommeow
    @freedommeow Год назад +18

    You're an incredible trainer Ryan, thank you so much for sharing this knowledge with so many people! I love your comments at the end, kids these days need experiences like this to help get us back to reality! 🙌👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Wendy-bd9zu
    @Wendy-bd9zu Год назад +32

    She is a horse for one owner, not for horse riding school.

  • @KristynSchlavin
    @KristynSchlavin Год назад +19

    That was a fantastic video! Your excellent example of leadership for her was great!! So excited for the horse and the humans that love her! ❤

  • @marilynseal3880
    @marilynseal3880 Год назад +7

    I have always loved horses but have never had one or even ridden much, but I love watching your videos. I have learned so much about a horse's psychology and mindset. You have a wonderfully gentle approach and your advice to owners is clearly and gently given, so they do not feel criticised.

  • @jeannettegiles5869
    @jeannettegiles5869 Год назад +3

    Great horsemanship Ryan. Simple steps. Bad/inconsistent riders make horses bad/inconsistent. Your calm demeanor is what she felt the instant you picked up the lead rope. She looks balanced and smooth. This is exactly how I keep my lesson horses light and responsive, something my students learn from the get go. Thank you Ryan Rose Horsemanship

  • @lisaburroughs7847
    @lisaburroughs7847 Год назад +20

    OK.. 100% this video illustrates my biggest peeve with the kids hunter jump industry.. This women is teaching lesson's, referring to herself as a trainer.. When just leading the horse to the round pen she illustrated her total lack of horse handling skills... This is not isolated. I see it everyday as I board at a kids show barn
    Pay attention parents.. This is who you are paying to teach your kids horsemanship skills.. People who do not possess them themselves..

    • @lisaburroughs7847
      @lisaburroughs7847 Год назад +6

      To add what she is teaching.. Two kicks and a crop.. Yep typical ribbon chaser hunter jumper trainer... I'm so done with this industry...

    • @maireadholohan6579
      @maireadholohan6579 5 месяцев назад +1

      That woman is an instructor? That horse is not ready for the drudgery of two kicks and a slap type riding

    • @ginnychibbaor4578
      @ginnychibbaor4578 Месяц назад +1

      Me too, I feel bad for that sweet mare. If you need money, get a job somewhere other then horses

  • @aixpert291
    @aixpert291 Год назад +7

    What a beautiful horse!

  • @ponygirl5716
    @ponygirl5716 Год назад +13

    If the mare was doing fine before she started to become a kid’s lesson horse, then you have your answer. -She doesn’t want to be a lesson horse. It’s clear just watching her how much she needs confidence from her people. Kids that are learning have absolutely no confidence. That makes her feel insecure. A kids lesson horse needs to be able to be very self confident. That’s not her. Stop trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.
    She is telling you the only way she knows how. She doesn’t want to do that job. Don’t make her and ruined a nice horse

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад

      She has my horse and a lesson horse for 2 years and has recently decided she doesn’t want to. Listen to what we said. She has taught over 300 kids to ride safety. This issue is a new issue.

    • @ponygirl5716
      @ponygirl5716 Год назад +11

      @@Middletonstablesllc i’m not saying that I know everything wrong with her and the situation. I am seeing glaring clues Even her facial expressions are telling a story. Yes she is intelligent, but she’s also sensitive. She is trying to tell you something in the only way she can.
      I do absolutely believe that insecurity is at the root of her issues. In addition, she could also simply be plain old still sick of being a lesson horse.
      Why force her to keep doing it when she obviously does not like it? That could be the reason why she was sold to you, if I’m understanding the story, it sounds like she was sold to you as a private horse, and then you decided to use her as a lesson horse. Riding stables usually don’t get rid of a good lesson horse that’s working for them. A lesson horse has a very difficult job. Not every horse can do that for its entire life.
      She is a lovely horse. Find a lesson horse that is duller and more tolerant.

    • @marilynbridges8697
      @marilynbridges8697 Год назад +2

      Ponygirl- please so being so rude. You don't know as much as you think you know. Give Cheri some grace. She is doing her best to help her horse.

    • @ponygirl5716
      @ponygirl5716 Год назад +8

      @@marilynbridges8697 this is not being rude. This is just stating an opinion of what I’m seeing from 50 years of horse involvement.
      She can either consider what I say, or she can say I don’t know what I’m talking about and throw it out. I’m not calling her any names or being mean. I’m just stating my opinion and what I see.
      people are way too easily offended these days

  • @flobrowne3970
    @flobrowne3970 6 месяцев назад +1

    Both my man and I have been working in the racehorse industry for 50 yrs. I was introduced to NH methods 20 yrs ago. I started studying and practicing them. Had plenty of horses to practice on. Started getting "problem" horses, and putting them back in winners circle. My man has always been stubborn about learning the methods himself... from me, anyway. I recently caught him watching a Ryan Rose video and he admitted he's been watching them for awhile now. lol He has changed how he now handles a difficult horse. No more manhandling into submission. Too bad he didn't realize this years ago.

  • @jordanwhite5470
    @jordanwhite5470 Год назад +13

    Maybe let this horse be a one-person horse with experienced rider; not great for lessons with it's history.

  • @audreygregis8721
    @audreygregis8721 Год назад +9

    After all she's been through, I don't think she should be a lesson horse, unless it's for more competent riders. She is a lovely horse, for the right rider, but not a beginner. With that kind of damage to her tongue, she needs a bosal/hackamore, like Ryan said. If she is ridden English, a lot of English riders using hackamores now.

  • @marcyking461
    @marcyking461 Год назад +4

    You might want to try a hackamore on this horse, given her tongue situation? I had a horse that detested a bit and would thrash his head for the entire ride. I had his teeth floated, thinking he might have dental issues and I tried different bits to no avail. Then, after I switched to a hackamore, he quit tossing his head about.

  • @Mainecoon_Izzy
    @Mainecoon_Izzy Год назад +6

    Wonderful video Ryan ⭐️
    you really are the master, & a horse whisperer through & through💯
    Severely damaged tongue ….
    Bits are dangerous for the horse if you don’t know what you’re doing 💯
    Poor baby💔
    Sweet horse, sweet owner ♥️

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +1

      Yes, we got her this way, and we’re super sad to find someone had damaged her tongue with brute force. Never should an animal be treated this way for any reason and it stands to reason why she is somewhat weary of humans she doesn’t know

    • @Mainecoon_Izzy
      @Mainecoon_Izzy Год назад +1

      @@Middletonstablesllc
      Nothing worse than animal abuse in my opinion.
      We also have a horse who was abused he’s a handful.
      The great thing is, there are people like you who are willing to give these beautiful creatures, another chance, and truly be their friend and family ♥️
      However, I would take Ryan’s advice and use a Bozell👍
      I don’t think your horse needs a bit, not at all

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад

      Yes I love her with all my heart and soul and will do anything to make her life happy and sound and it hurts my heart to have people be so judgmental and nasty/. I would have never come to Ryan if I didn’t care about the kids i teach and my precious horses. They both are my life. Thanks for your kind words

  • @robynmartin2026
    @robynmartin2026 Год назад +3

    Ryan Rose, you are a brilliant trainer, so well explained!!

  • @mamabear1260
    @mamabear1260 Год назад +7

    Much appreciated Ryan. Thank you for sharing.

  • @amandaflintoft8764
    @amandaflintoft8764 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice job on explaining the headshaking. I think the owner learned alot from you hopefully she will apply it!

  • @krisbaker9427
    @krisbaker9427 Год назад +6

    This woman doesn’t understand horses. Don’t blame the horse. She isn’t an equestrian.

  • @red80808
    @red80808 Год назад +10

    Thumbs up for the bosal reccomendation

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +4

      I did buy a bosel for her and we are working on learning to ride correctly in it and ultimately that is the goal

    • @red80808
      @red80808 Год назад

      @cheriemiddleton6722 I'm so happy to hear that :)

  • @samanthaflynn6140
    @samanthaflynn6140 Год назад +7

    She needs a confident Leader!!!

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +1

      Absolutely- what we are working on and doing much better with already

  • @elizabethjones3487
    @elizabethjones3487 Год назад +6

    The owner said she's used as a lesson horse .. perhaps she just # with all the novices pulling tugging kicking and she's as confused as the rider so reacts 🐎

  • @itsmrmahin
    @itsmrmahin Год назад +3

    I don't trust anyone; I'm not even confused; I'm not even a horse.

  • @sharonm8929
    @sharonm8929 Год назад +3

    Beautiful horse! Worth the patience!

  • @martylesnick2032
    @martylesnick2032 Год назад +1

    WHEN EVER YOUR HORSE WALKS OFF AS YOU MOUNT, YOUR ALREADY IN TROUBLE. BACKING A HORSE TEACHS RESPECT ESPECIALLY BY WAY OF THEIR FEET. NICE JOB RYAN OF HELPING THIS PRETTY LITTLE PAINT FEEL COMFORTABLE. IT TAKES A VERY SPECIAL HORSE TO BE A LESSON HORSE AND STAY KIND WITH ALL THE MISTAKES WE MAKE WHEN WE ARE LEARNING TO RIDE. Susan

  • @epona9166
    @epona9166 Год назад +17

    Ryan I know you can't address everything all at once, but I was mind blown that they are using a Tom Thumb bit on this horse. Those bits are the epitome of sending mixed signals to a horse. And to use one on a horse that has had bad experiences with bits. Yikes!!

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 Год назад +3

      It looks to me like Ryan is riding her with a pelham using 1 rein with a leather bit connector between the snaffle and curb connection points.

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +3

      The Tom Thumb is the ONLY bit that she has liked and accepted. With the advice of a very skilled trainer we have tried over 20 different bits. She has a severe cut on her tongue. The other bits get caught in her tongue. She is most happy and the vet said she likes the Tom Thumb best because of this tongue injury. We have the Tom Thumb in with bit connectors and bits are as safe or unsafe as the hands of the rider

    • @epona9166
      @epona9166 Год назад +7

      @@Middletonstablesllc I am not anti-bit and understand about hands. But a TT bit wobbles all over the place - incl in the horse’s mouth - and sends conflicting signals to the horse. A direct pull to the left w the rein attached to the bottom of the shank pushes the purchase into the side of the horse’s head, pushing it to the right. Opposing signals at the same time. Plus jaw pressure plus poll pressure. That’s a lot going on for a horse who has been badly abused in the mouth. Anyway good luck w your mare. She is beautiful and Ryan really liked her. Very encouraging.

    • @epona9166
      @epona9166 Год назад +2

      @@evelynwaugh4053 Thanks I couldn’t tell. Presumably with a solid mouthpiece. That makes more sense w a badly damaged tongue v a Tom Thumb. I don’t understand the point of bit connectors; it seems like they would just result in a dull/ambiguous signal going to the horse. Anyway Tx for the clarification.

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 Год назад +1

      @@epona9166 I have one with a mullen mouth, which I like. I agree, I read both pro and con about them. In theory, it seems possible to use hand position to cue either the snaffle or the curb bit with one rein and a bit connector, but that's conjecture.

  • @connie6623
    @connie6623 6 месяцев назад

    It's amazing each time we watch your videos. So much to learn about the horse and yourself. What a gift you bring to this community. Thanks Ryan!

  • @PolyComments
    @PolyComments Год назад +3

    From the client's (lady's) style of riding - it would take years for her to truly come to understand and implement the necessary changes.

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад

      Not true at all, it’s Been two weeks and she’s already doing amazing

  • @cassandrastone7297
    @cassandrastone7297 Год назад +6

    I’m just discovering your channel and I love your videos. They’re very informative. ❤

  • @disturbed_deliberations
    @disturbed_deliberations Год назад +1

    Your good.
    In Australia we call that a one reign stop. First thing some of us teach kids and the inexperienced and the horse.
    No offense but the minute the lady first took the lead the horse was in front of her and leading and she was making excuses for the horses refusal.Your very diplomatic and polite.
    I also always start off with the least amount of pressure to get what you asked for. As you appear to know If you give a horse confidence and time to understand what you are asking of it, it will quickly work with you.

  • @Bookit9254
    @Bookit9254 Год назад +3

    I was a kid leading a bridled horse when an unexpected noise startled her and she leapt forward. I fell and dropped the reins. She stumbled and while recovering from her stumble, stepped on the reins and the bit cut her tongue badly. The whole thing was over in 10 seconds but she was in a hackamore for the rest of her life.
    This mare may certainly have been subjected to abuse. I just wanted to point out that it is not always the case.

  • @joanlovelace7338
    @joanlovelace7338 Год назад

    Seasoned horse training "fabulous" people skills. Great teaching skills Mr Rose...

  • @hov-hanna
    @hov-hanna 10 месяцев назад

    Yes! Yes! I hear what you say so clear, its like all teacher before you cleared the road for ya!

  • @Rosebud65
    @Rosebud65 Месяц назад

    Ryan, you are the BEST!

  • @bobkohl6779
    @bobkohl6779 Год назад +6

    The horse I'm on was seriously abused. 5 year journey to get her squared away. 4 time state champion 5 time honor roll horse. Best 15 years of my life. Serious note, John Lyons didn't have your finesse.

  • @Boyland8692
    @Boyland8692 Год назад +2

    I love how Ryan says “Naughty” shows how he is a trainer of depth! 🤩🤩👏👏🇦🇺🇦🇺

  • @littlebird8837
    @littlebird8837 Год назад +2

    She's a beautiful horse..so glad you got Ryan to help her. 🐴🌟🦢

  • @mercedesp1565
    @mercedesp1565 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the video! As almost always, the "bad" behavior wasn't the horse's fault, with Ryan's expertise, everything went well. Fortunately the lady understood this, as she said at the end.

  • @reneekraeplin8943
    @reneekraeplin8943 22 дня назад

    I am mesmerized by your videos!!!

  • @carolinehoward180
    @carolinehoward180 Год назад +2

    She is absolutely gorgeous 🖤

  • @flobrowne3970
    @flobrowne3970 6 месяцев назад +4

    You can hear in the ladies voice the enthusiasm fading as she starts to realize this is not going to be a quick magical fix, but is going to require actual work on her part. lol I encounter this all the time, and why I stepped back from trying to help people. That's the major problem with most horse issues... people don't want to do the work.. specifically groundwork. That is a very nice horse.

  • @shepherds.pie.youtube
    @shepherds.pie.youtube Год назад

    Thanks Ryan!!
    Please keep making these videos, they were and are a godsend to me.

  • @2588lucy
    @2588lucy Год назад +3

    Working with horses made me a better person I believe.

  • @dianeschuller
    @dianeschuller Месяц назад +1

    I hope the 'teacher' listens well to Ryan. She's a sweet mare and, if she were mine, I definitely wouldn't put there through being a school horse. Mostly because they confuse her and the 'teacher' can't identify her signals and the triggers. But, that's me.

  • @lkintuition2508
    @lkintuition2508 Год назад +4

    So sad to see bit on a damaged tounge. Wish they had stopped and changed to bitless. Took time to show horse how it works, before attempting to ride.

  • @JohnDoe-qu8ny
    @JohnDoe-qu8ny Год назад +2

    Thanks Ryan 👌 really appreciate your videos ❤

  • @KingsMom831
    @KingsMom831 Год назад +1

    Here for it!
    Great video, thanks Ryan!

  • @ddunning6207
    @ddunning6207 Год назад +9

    Omg. Blind leading the blind. And... She's giving lessons to children! 😥

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +2

      Keep your negative comments to yourself - not true at all- this horse has helped over 300 kids learn to ride in the last two years. She just recently lost connection with us

  • @mariahlarson92
    @mariahlarson92 Год назад +19

    Using an abused horse as a lesson horse with a Tom Thumb bit 🥴
    And you wonder why it’s having behavioral issues?

    • @shellymoseng2139
      @shellymoseng2139 Год назад +4

      Sadly years ago a trainer ALSO told me to start with a Tom Thumb bit, a bit that instantly puts harsh levering pressure right on the bars as soon as ANY pressure is applied. Avoid any "trainer" that is promoting their use, esp THIS sensitive & scarred tongue mare! Also understand that curbed bits are not intended to be ridden on contact.
      I applaud that this owner understands she has a lot to learn herself... As we all have in our journeys with horses!! But with proper, clear, gentle & consistant communication from a benevolent & confident handler (Sooo NOT the best career/horse for beginning/multiple riders or students). However,THESE are the horses that have the most potential to become the PRICELESS partner. A gift that is worth earning... But a long haul to be EARNED.

    • @QueenKuliCoaching
      @QueenKuliCoaching 7 месяцев назад

      Bravo!!

  • @amygrund3178
    @amygrund3178 Год назад

    I really needed the reset reminder thanks for the video

  • @lucymuir9364
    @lucymuir9364 Год назад

    Beautiful paint. Lucky Lady!!!

  • @Pluviose.Raincheck
    @Pluviose.Raincheck Год назад +1

    I don't know much about this but I wish they'd show the owner get on it and see what happens.

  • @boatman222345
    @boatman222345 11 месяцев назад +2

    Heck I don't trust people either and I'm not even a horse!

    • @marlenestewart7442
      @marlenestewart7442 11 месяцев назад

      It could be because you have never been domesticated ;)

  • @evanshaw1000
    @evanshaw1000 Год назад +4

    An instructor needs to thoroughly know the horse that he or she is using for rider instruction. That will take one variable out of the equation. Then and only then can you give good instruction on that horse. 🙂

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад +1

      DEFINATELY - we are stepping back and Ryan recommended taking her out of our program for a few months and working on certain things- which we are doing/. She may never work in it again- it will depend on her

  • @meaghannescheering2522
    @meaghannescheering2522 Год назад +5

    The walking through the narrow area has doesn’t necessarily have to do with that horse trusting her. It actually has to do a lot with where she was holding her. Holding right under a horses jaw makes them feel trapped and claustrophobic (as well as puts the handler is danger if the horse went to rear/bolt/strike). Add a narrower space to walk through + holding right under the jaw creates fear and unwillingness due to being trapped. The moment you got ahold of her and gave her her face she followed immediately.

  • @debraclogston9379
    @debraclogston9379 Год назад +2

    When I was a kid, my riding coach would put more advanced riders on the beginners horses when they started to misbehave. We got to learn how to correct the problems and develop the balance to sit through the ride! Ye haw!

  • @beautifulbuddleia
    @beautifulbuddleia Год назад

    Extremely interesting and informative

  • @michelewarner5166
    @michelewarner5166 Год назад

    Great video Ryan. Should help a lot of riders and horses.

  • @LtBRS
    @LtBRS Год назад +1

    Very impressive! 😊

  • @dianekrisak942
    @dianekrisak942 5 месяцев назад

    When you lead you lead like a leader not looking back at them

  • @magdalenagauderon3754
    @magdalenagauderon3754 4 месяца назад

    First thing i noticed is where she hold the rope.i. remeber my first lesson.my tutor t said :.let go :
    .what you mean let go of the rope ?; yes. Now slide down and hold it gently give her space.:.i remeber it so well it was realy difficult at the time.now i can spot where someones knowledge is at just by watching how they hold the rope.:)

  • @lifeinthesaddle7002
    @lifeinthesaddle7002 Год назад +1

    i wish ryan could help me with my horse, because he is an AMAZING TRAINER.

  • @ginnychibbaor4578
    @ginnychibbaor4578 Месяц назад +1

    Lesson kids are hard on horses

  • @JeanMarcellino-s9h
    @JeanMarcellino-s9h 11 месяцев назад

    This video is great! I learned so much. I have a mare as well and she is very good, but at times kicks out when asked to do something. We are getting better though!
    I would not use the horse in the video with beginner riders or green riders....she needs someone with experience and feel (like Ryan) or she will misunderstand and get anxious.

  • @DarkAngel-md6ck
    @DarkAngel-md6ck Год назад +3

    I don't think a bit should be used

    • @melissayost4888
      @melissayost4888 Год назад

      Agreed. Try a side pull. Hack a Mores can be quit severe.

  • @idellbrown1825
    @idellbrown1825 Год назад +5

    I wouldn't let anyone ride her that doesn't know what they're doing or how to read a horse. Her poor tongue being torn. Kids riding a horse with a painful tongue, not a fan of this. Reigning, knowing how is paramount in my opinion. Different people riding a previously abused animal? Maybe a different animal that can handle different kids and adults may be a better fit,

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад

      The tongue is an old injury, we don’t let anyone ride her off a leadline who doesn’t know what they are doing. She was shown in the video you saw doing something she had never done and had escalated to, this why we called Ryan- she has been and was prior for 2 years an amazing calm wonderful kids lesson horse- calm down

    • @Middletonstablesllc
      @Middletonstablesllc Год назад

      That kid has been riding for over 18 months on her walk trot canter without issue

  • @samanthabennett7794
    @samanthabennett7794 Год назад +1

    Fantastic 👍

  • @KK-mm8ms
    @KK-mm8ms Год назад

    "I did this behavior, so I got this "correction. "
    I hadn't thought of the hq yield as the correction. It was just my reaction to a buck or rear, and I didn't use much leg to get the hq..it was more a panic move than a thought to teach. 😎 thanks! I'll probably use it better today...lol!

  • @kimmcduff7871
    @kimmcduff7871 Год назад

    Love that the horse knows who the real boss is 😂

  • @SarahWilsonMySmartPuppy
    @SarahWilsonMySmartPuppy Год назад

    Movement matching.
    Not only can it change an animal's mind, it has to change it. They have no choice -- they feel as they behave. Change their behavior, and you change their mind.

  • @bethalvarez6956
    @bethalvarez6956 Год назад +3

    They’re not all meant to be lesson horses a good lesson horses worth it’s weight in gold because it has to put up with a lot bouncing in the saddle, unsteady hands and legs and asking the wrong way I don’t know if she should be doing that a kid could get hurt

  • @lindakirsch1193
    @lindakirsch1193 Год назад +1

    Liked your video

  • @wioi
    @wioi Год назад +1

    I laughed out loud when she said "when you say reset, you mean you just sit there and do nothing" at 14:48 😂😂😂

  • @emmaeidson8710
    @emmaeidson8710 Год назад

    I’m interested in what you think about different bits! My favorites are Mylars and anatomically correct snaffles.

  • @Kylie_72
    @Kylie_72 Год назад +1

    She isn't a very strong leader of that horse. She was too soft walking that horse in. You have to be the boss of them moving their feet.

  • @marycanary3871
    @marycanary3871 Год назад +3

    this owner has no idea what’s going on. ugh. all the “mhm” while you’re talking..

  • @flenzy
    @flenzy Год назад +1

    Why a bosal and not a bitless bridle? I've ridden for decades with all my horses bitless (Arabs mainly and now my Rocky Mountain.)

  • @tigergirl-tv5jt
    @tigergirl-tv5jt Год назад

    This lady acts just like my sister

  • @qhride1
    @qhride1 Год назад

    Hi Ryan my 10yr QH mare I broke in myself at 5 I did all the basics then and along the years she’s had sporadic riding in the arena but always quiet to get on and willing to rehash what she has learnt , this year I was able to commit to regular riding we was going fine but now she is shutting down on me , I get on she won’t walk off , she just takes every opportunity to stop and resist and not move ,( she is healthy and carries a huge amount of muscle I have her on restriction food as solid)just don’t want to be nagging on her sides , I open the rein for her to move off and always ride on a slack rein , she works with respect on the ground on long rein with only flag stick , I feel like she is testing to see if I will give up!

  • @HB-yg3ke
    @HB-yg3ke 10 месяцев назад

    Hoping someone could explain to me: what is the difference or how do you create the difference between a release and a reset? I have learned basically keep asking until they go, then you releases the pressure so they don’t learn “oh if I keep ignoring eventually they’ll leave me alone or stop asking.” So how do you differentiate those two? Or am I missing something obvious? I really like that reset method but wouldn’t want to do the wrong thing.

  • @finngamesknudson1457
    @finngamesknudson1457 7 месяцев назад

    Looks to me like rear girth is awfully loose. Is it safe like this or should it be one notch tighter? If this is good, I’ve been needlessly irritating our sensitive horse.

  • @TF1-10E
    @TF1-10E Год назад

    that is what I do, always looking for other ways

  • @dianaclark5658
    @dianaclark5658 5 месяцев назад

    Hmmm…. This sounds like a lot like what Cesar the dog whisperer 😊

  • @anselmolorenzo8897
    @anselmolorenzo8897 Год назад +7

    it is amazing how subtle and soft you treat horses! so relaxing to watch ;)