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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2022
  • Dragon Ball Super Manga Chapter 86 and 85 reveal a NEW version of Ultra Instinct: Goku's True Ultra Instinct Transformation and today we look at the info from the official Dragon Ball web site. We saw True Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gas and make sense of it here.
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Комментарии • 997

  • @TFIta369
    @TFIta369 2 года назад +124

    The whole appeal of Ultra Instinct for me was that the user could avoid any attack and strike their opponent with the highest efficiency possible, but realistically, it will just become another power up that will become obsolete when the next all-powerful villain shows up. 😅

    • @donavanboykin9489
      @donavanboykin9489 2 года назад +5

      Exactly

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 2 года назад +12

      Thats just dragon ball, honestly. Eventually they'll just incorporate UI into his base moveset just to entirely forget it because the entire point of the form is just "autopilot"

    • @BelartWright
      @BelartWright 2 года назад +8

      Always. I've said for years that the forms need to specialize instead of just being power ups. Or I hope the series hits a power ceiling so transformations are obsolete. Anyways, I'd like the forms to do the following:
      SSG: Healing and other divine mysticism.
      SSB: Absolutely Perfect Ki Control. Makes most weaker forms obsolete.
      UI: Defense/Dodging, mental clarity.
      UE: Converts damage to power
      SSJ: Weakest Yet Most Balanced with no wasted energy (Mastered SSJ).
      SSJ2: Double the power of SSJ but also emphasizes speed. Combine with SSB for SSB2 a form emphasizing Super Speed.
      SSJ3: 4 times the power of SSJ2 but emphasizes raw power instead of speed (like a more effective version of SSJ Grade 3)

    • @TFIta369
      @TFIta369 2 года назад

      @@BelartWright 💯👏

    • @Roman6ixv3
      @Roman6ixv3 2 года назад +4

      Yep someone is either going to have UI and whoop Goku & Vegetas ass or the power ups jus become fodder to make more toys 🤠

  • @RamArt9091
    @RamArt9091 2 года назад +223

    Next arc Goku will learn "For real this time Ultra Instinct".

    • @dronzie
      @dronzie 2 года назад +33

      And somehow still no where near strong enough to fight Beerus at full power. Draaaagggg

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 2 года назад +13

      lol pretty much.

    • @lelandmassaro4086
      @lelandmassaro4086 2 года назад +4

      Next Arc should be Vegeta becoming a God of Destruction .

    • @Jfresh2393
      @Jfresh2393 2 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @AyoSwaggGod098
      @AyoSwaggGod098 2 года назад +1

      lmfaoo

  • @superelite5133
    @superelite5133 2 года назад +871

    Man is it just me or is ultra instinct starting to become very confusing and convoluted?

    • @santoniojones280
      @santoniojones280 2 года назад +92

      It is starting to become confusing

    • @firstchain_prominence
      @firstchain_prominence 2 года назад +42

      ur only confusing yourself

    • @actual_random
      @actual_random 2 года назад +140

      Exactly. They've actually ruined the form. Like he has UI in base, UI in all his super saiyan forms, UI omen, mastered UI. And then I'm this arc he went back and forth using different forms. At one time its a technique at others its a transformation, and being calm was meant to be the whole point and now using his emotions makes him stronger just making it so convoluted for no reason.
      Edit: It's a rhetorical question. I know that it is both a technique and a transformation I am pointing out that it is convoluted this way. Stop replying telling me its both. I know.

    • @YodaSmokes
      @YodaSmokes 2 года назад +99

      It was overpowered. Now they are trying everything to underpower it. What they should’ve done, is this is the first time goku went back into mui since the tournament. That would’ve been a much better build up. Maybe he beat Moro without ever entering the mastered state. But instead He managed to defeat him in omen/ spirit control

    • @stfuinc.202
      @stfuinc.202 2 года назад +45

      Trust me it ain’t just you bro

  • @dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
    @dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 2 года назад +119

    Next arc:
    Vegeta: "Ultra Ego is bullshit, I got murked by that dweeb."
    Beerus: "Perfect Ultra Ego requires to focus on nothing else but absolute destruction. You must learn how to remove any thoughts of worrying about your own life and just focus on destroying everything in your path. Unless you can achieve that, Ultra Ego's true potential will be outside your reach."
    Vegeta: "A-ha! I've achieved a form beyond Ultra Ego! It's the most powerful variation of Ultra Ego imaginable!"
    Beerus: "That's incredible, how did you do it?"
    Vegeta: "I realized that I can't think about destruction at all and that I just want to protect myself so I thought as much as I can about protecting myself and avoiding destroying anything while in Ultra Ego and now I've got all the advantages of Ultra Ego and none of its weaknesses."
    Beerus: "Is it too late to request a transfer to a different manga now?"

    • @EmitNen
      @EmitNen 2 года назад +19

      This actually makes sense in terms of dragon ball super’s logic. I won’t be surprised if they do something similar like this

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 2 года назад +14

      Vegeta didnt get beat lmao
      He ran out of gas(hehehe)like MUI Goku vs Jiren,its a parallel
      Gas was scared shitless and was about to lose before that
      The bad part was how he was carried away

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 2 года назад +3

      Something you forget: MY BULMA

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 2 года назад +21

      Exactly. The mental gymnastics we have to do to justify these never-ending power-ups is hilarious

    • @strenuousspider9525
      @strenuousspider9525 2 года назад +8

      @@lancetheking7524
      Right, I believe vegeta will go down the same path as goku when it comes to emotions. Vegeta emotions to protect the ones he lives will increase his willingness to destroy and therefore find a new UE form.

  • @dronzie
    @dronzie 2 года назад +76

    Why is info like this so often revealed in interviews and articles these days instead of in the actual manga/anime/movies? It's so weird.

    • @philipwithers340
      @philipwithers340 2 года назад

      Because they've no idea what they're doing anymore.
      There's a new transformation per chapter these days.
      Milking the absolute fuck out of it now.

    • @RSpracticalshooting
      @RSpracticalshooting 2 года назад +11

      That's kinda how it's always been done. The manga/anime would just do things and then interviews with Toriyama or the official guidebooks had to come in and clarify/explain things.

    • @houseontherock8345
      @houseontherock8345 2 года назад +3

      Because people don’t bother with good story telling anymore. It takes too much work lol

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад +1

      @@RSpracticalshooting The anime/Manga would explain things to.

    • @cmon9505
      @cmon9505 2 года назад +3

      @@houseontherock8345exactly, writing was really bad. I hope next arc is some good stuff😭

  • @darkthunder168
    @darkthunder168 2 года назад +44

    So ultra instinct is a transformation after all... shocker 😂

    • @vegitoblue7908
      @vegitoblue7908 2 года назад +14

      I know. Such bs

    • @chilubapage1272
      @chilubapage1272 2 года назад +2

      It's always been a transformation on a Saiyan , Goku actually transforms when using it so yeah

    • @spoof2062
      @spoof2062 2 года назад +1

      I thought we already established that its both?

    • @MrJokerSenpai
      @MrJokerSenpai 2 года назад +2

      ​@@chilubapage1272 alot of people who read DBS dont actually read the chapter at all, they just look at the pictures i guess, Goku's always changed Physically when using UI while Beerus and the Angel's dont, Whis also clearly states that Goku's using UI as a transformation because he's a saiyan and his body is used to transforming to acquire new levels of power.

    • @Dat-Boi-Camoja
      @Dat-Boi-Camoja 2 года назад +1

      And that’s why when people say Dragonball is fucking shit just believe them 😂💀

  • @hmmeuachoque
    @hmmeuachoque 2 года назад +110

    I think that's a cool idea but it was poorly executed IMO, Whis foreshadowing a Goku's version of UI made sense and having Goku to show his personallity while in UI is necessary, but why did it need to look so much like UI Omen? Toyotaro could've made his hair spiker like a SSJ while being black and with the silver eyes, that would show that he is using his emotions instead of being calm while making it look unique.

    • @BilalTalat316
      @BilalTalat316 2 года назад +2

      Perfectly put 👍

    • @preds43
      @preds43 2 года назад +3

      @@anthonychase6906 He doesn't stay in Omen. This is separate of Omen entirely. This just applies the principles of Complete UI whilist keeping his nature intact. Resulting in Gokus true UI.

    • @Musexe
      @Musexe 2 года назад

      I think we'll get a different color with this True UI. thats my guess

    • @darkman452
      @darkman452 2 года назад

      @@preds43 wasn’t he able to ui while using the other forms and even talking earlier in the granolah arc why does it need to be a new form

    • @robinwagner7397
      @robinwagner7397 2 года назад +3

      His hair and aura could've looked like they intended for Mastered UI to look before they changed it to the silver hair. His hair was spiky and he had that red aura around him

  • @jd55513
    @jd55513 2 года назад +160

    We will definitely get new information on "True UI" as we get to the V Jump interview in August (4th?). I mentioned my theories on this a few streams back, but basically this is Goku using Ultra Instinct but not emulating the angelic mindset(Omen and Silver) this is my "branch theory" where in order for Goku to get better with UI as Whis stated back in 68-70. He has to stop copying the angelic way(calm and no emotional disposition.) This means that by embracing the gift of Bardocks Saiyan instincts , and Goku following the Saiyan nature he is rooted in. He can actually use Ultra Instinct to his true degree. This borrows from Eastern Philosophy and especially Buddhism with the knowledge of the true self.

    • @preds43
      @preds43 2 года назад +14

      So, basically. He adapts the might of Completed UI with his Saiyan roots, making him look akin to Omen but also wielding the powers of completed UI with his Saiyan self. Love it, tbh. Also makes his evolution in UI different and also makes him more linked to his EoZ self.

    • @kaizatengoku3893
      @kaizatengoku3893 2 года назад

      @@preds43 he probably turn into an angel if he get true ui

    • @preds43
      @preds43 2 года назад +10

      @@kaizatengoku3893 No? That's not really how it works. Goku doesn't turn into a North Kai looking mf when using the Kaioken, so why would he turn into an Angel using his True UI?

    • @SonGoku0-r
      @SonGoku0-r 2 года назад +4

      Yeah because emotions is a key factor to Goku's fighting style him being excited with the thrill of the fight motivats him to keep fighting, adapts to his opponents attacks making him stronger and push passed his limitations.

    • @realtruth1448
      @realtruth1448 2 года назад

      So basically goku’s UI is going to be rage

  • @mrwuang8638
    @mrwuang8638 2 года назад +109

    I don't understand. Ultra instinct is supposed to be a state of mind where the body acts on its own, INSTINCTIVELY, ya know. Emotions and thoughts are what keep Goku slower. Now are you telling me that adding emotions is somehow gonna make ultra instinct better? Isn't it supposed to be otherwise?

    • @mohamedred5746
      @mohamedred5746 2 года назад

      Dvmb writing...
      Still dont understand why Fangirls always defend this 💩

    • @dronzie
      @dronzie 2 года назад +24

      It's just another sayian transformation at this point. They have to keep the power creep going somehow and it seems they haven't been able to figure out how to mantain UI's properties while making the next bad guy a big enough threat.

    • @mrwuang8638
      @mrwuang8638 2 года назад +23

      @@dronzie yep, that's what is seems to me too. But it's getting a bit dumb at this point

    • @MrJokerSenpai
      @MrJokerSenpai 2 года назад +31

      They've ruined UI by changing the instinct to move instinctively to avoid danger and never be caught off-guard with a perfectly tranquil and calm mind and perfect movement into just another SSJ Form, Goku's still moving instinctively but his fighting style doesn't look anything like UI anymore, im convinced that Toyotaro just made this whole thing as an excuse to not have to put in the effort to perfectly illustrate Goku's "Godly UI Fighting Style" which looked amazing, So UI will just become regular Goku with a new hair colour.

    • @gerardoa9179
      @gerardoa9179 2 года назад +17

      You Dont need to understand. Its just to sell toys and lazy writing

  • @xXSonTJXx
    @xXSonTJXx 2 года назад +4

    “True Ultra Instinct” *proceeds to go silver at the end to beat the main villain* LMAO

  • @Hvterz
    @Hvterz 2 года назад +152

    I think people are confusing this UI form being more powerful than MUI. MUI is the perfect form of UI that gets the most out of the user’s current ability. It requires a certain mindset and is catered to an Angel’s state of being. Goku is a saiyan and in turn can grow in power through emotion, zenkais, etc. Angels cannot do that. For Goku to take advantage of his Saiyan biology, he has to be in UI omen. MUI isn’t catered towards exploiting those saiyan abilities that grow power, instead it just maximizes CURRENT power. UI omen allows some degree of unconscious body movement/power, but also allows Goku to tap into his saiyan instincts that allow him to grow as he fights. He might not be as efficient, but saiyans don’t thrive on efficiency. In actuality Vegeta’s Ultra Ego is in perfect tune with a Saiyan’s instinct. The form requires emotion, damage, all of which go in tandem with a Saiyan’s biology. Vegeta understood that MUI is opposite of Saiyan nature, hence he dismissed his pursuit of the technique. Goku has to create a new technique. The body fights on its own while the saiyan mind is fueling its power further.

    • @dronzie
      @dronzie 2 года назад +11

      Not a bad theory. It would be pretty interesting if this is explanation turns out to be the case. We will see.

    • @clickmaster3692
      @clickmaster3692 2 года назад +25

      @@dronzie All of what the commenter stated can be found in the past chapters, and isn't a theory.

    • @Hvterz
      @Hvterz 2 года назад +19

      @@clickmaster3692 right, I don’t think UI is as confusing as people make it out to be. The manga explains it pretty well.

    • @bakunawa534
      @bakunawa534 2 года назад

      Omgggg dummies still calling it MUI......🤦.
      It's UIO and UI.... Sheesh

    • @bakunawa534
      @bakunawa534 2 года назад +2

      It's UIO AND UI.
      Sheeeesshhhhh 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
      MUI......wtf these people still saying it 🤦🤦🤦🤦

  • @ThousandDaggers
    @ThousandDaggers 2 года назад +7

    The Toei Merch department all let out a collective head slap 🤦
    "Alright boys, we gotta figure out how to resale the first Goku base form toy and call it a new transformation..."

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 2 года назад +3

    I hate what Toyotaro has done to UI.
    We had a whole arc where Meerus was teaching Goku to rid himself of emotions to master UI, now Goku has stronger UI because he’s using emotion???? The whole point of UI was that you can’t use it with emotion because then you’re thinking and your body won’t instinctively move on it’s own!
    It makes no damn sense!

  • @rooneyrangerstid
    @rooneyrangerstid 2 года назад +5

    I think it’s time you accept they can’t keep up with what they say it’s just ass pull after ass pull then them tripping over themselves trying to find a reasonable explanation

  • @PapiCito
    @PapiCito 2 года назад +5

    Next will be "Ultimate Final True Ultra Omen Instinct 2" Its gone way to far at this point. This has made everything feel pointless sadly

  • @jeffw1388
    @jeffw1388 2 года назад +5

    I feel as though DBS has backed themselves in a corner with MUI for being an overpowered form. Now they have to come up with different variants of UI such as omen, and now this...true ultra instinct!? Really!? Did MUI just get a backseat to this now? What does that mean for MUI then? I am just at a lost for all these transformations and back peddling. Super Sayian God would have been more interesting to explore. Best aura transformation in my opinion.

  • @spritvio639
    @spritvio639 2 года назад +16

    So this UI variation implements emotions. Isn't the point if UI to dodge and attack without thinking, what are emotions doing here?

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 2 года назад +3

      Don’t think about it too hard. Just enjoy the ride. That’s the best advice I can give.

    • @TheRuggedEchinda
      @TheRuggedEchinda 2 года назад +3

      Honestly I’ve thought the exact same thing. But Toyotaro seems to make his own rules.

    • @lrainwater1608
      @lrainwater1608 2 года назад

      I think the implication is that when he dodges an attack he “activates” his emotions for a split second to launch a counter attack which I guess means it’s a stronger attack

    • @yujiro496
      @yujiro496 2 года назад +7

      @@Bingo_the_Pug na bro why do we have to enjoy some shit that makes no sense.

    • @Mugen_YG
      @Mugen_YG 2 года назад

      I'd compare it the say... Being able to talk to someone while gaming. You don't actively think about the inputs you make while you're having a conversation, do you?

  • @dragonnoid4655
    @dragonnoid4655 2 года назад +39

    Didn't whis said something about him & goku being completley different beings and he had to create his own version of ultra instinct?
    I think that's what this is

    • @Juansetheunknown
      @Juansetheunknown 2 года назад +1

      yes he said something that the MUI is easy to whis because he is an angel so that´s his normal state all the time but Goku is different so he need to find his own unique form of UI.

    • @dalymufc
      @dalymufc 2 года назад +13

      @@Juansetheunknown Well this aint it bro UI with emotions makes no fecking sense and goes against what the whole point of UI is. im just going to pretend this manga chaper never happened when it comes to UI.

    • @montanamaxxamillion
      @montanamaxxamillion 2 года назад +1

      @@dalymufc I agree with what you said about UI

    • @dragonnoid4655
      @dragonnoid4655 2 года назад

      @@dalymufc i mean you're not wrong.
      Ui having emotions doesn't really feel like ui anymore.

    • @Xhih
      @Xhih 2 года назад +2

      @@dragonnoid4655 goku mad at jiren in top?

  • @dsixtosan
    @dsixtosan 2 года назад +2

    I have an ultra instinct to yawn every time a new form or transformation gets announced.

  • @ItsJustFox
    @ItsJustFox 2 года назад +8

    Look at the wording here. They're not calling it THE True Ultra Instinct, They're calling it HIS true Ultra Instinct.

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад +3

      So we can get more forms later.

    • @godslayer8894
      @godslayer8894 2 года назад +1

      @@spritvio639 more variants yes

    • @sonkot4836
      @sonkot4836 2 года назад

      @@spritvio639 that's the point of dragon ball. TRANSFORMATIONS

  • @georginaK21
    @georginaK21 2 года назад +12

    True ultra instinct until the next iteration 🙄

  • @rodimussupreme2329
    @rodimussupreme2329 2 года назад +17

    I did notice a design difference with this version. Typically they draw Omen so that Goku’s hair looks shiny. This version his hair is normal flat-black but he has the (assumed) silver eyes.

    • @dronzie
      @dronzie 2 года назад

      There were a few panels where he did have those hilights that Omen usually has so it's kinda confusing to be honest. It might be more clear once this part of the Manga gets the official color treatment.

    • @AndreB23
      @AndreB23 2 года назад

      Another difference is that, when Goku isn't powering up, his hair remains the same as it is in his base-form. It isn't spiking up like it was in UIO.

  • @kyleseals710
    @kyleseals710 2 года назад +5

    This might seem convoluted but this is how I interpret it.
    The silver hair MUI WAS goku mastering ultra Instinct, but only the power side of it. He figured out how to gain its power, but the mental side wasn't fully complete, which is why Whis said that Goku a till had a ways to go.
    This new version is him figuring out how to combine the power with his unchanged mental state so he can master it without losing a part of himself to do it

  • @bearwithsunglassesandicecr5856
    @bearwithsunglassesandicecr5856 2 года назад +2

    It's hard to explain this transformation at this point in a black and white format! They've run out of shadings they need to completely alter the appearance at this point.

  • @mattgisi3375
    @mattgisi3375 2 года назад +3

    Ultra instinct having variants like this shit is COVID at this point

  • @enterthekyuubi
    @enterthekyuubi 2 года назад +21

    But doesn't using ones emotions completely contradict the philosophy of Ultra Instinct? 🤔

    • @DarkZ0l
      @DarkZ0l 2 года назад +10

      Except that's the angels variant of ultra instinct. No it does not contradict the philosophy of it at all, you could be saying that the angels variant has been contradicting the Saiyan's ultra instinct the whole time.

    • @JohnyX333x
      @JohnyX333x 2 года назад

      Yall are dumb. Goku says that masters ultra instinct takes a calm mind. He had been struggling with masters ultra instinct the whole arc. Yall act like this is new

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 2 года назад +13

      Try not to think about it too hard. Toriyama clearly doesn’t.

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад +2

      @@DarkZ0l Yes, it does. The point of Ultra Instinct is to dodge and attack without thinking. Emotions inherently do not belong especially emotions like Rage like Meerus said.

    • @DarkZ0l
      @DarkZ0l 2 года назад +10

      @@spritvio639Once again, that's the point of the angels ultra instinct. Saiyan's ultra instinct contradicts that, but it doesn't contradict its own. Instinct is different for each person, for each race as established by dragon ball a bunch of chapters ago. It isn't contradicting anything, just the "fans" malding over something plainly obvious, like usual

  • @drajah1986
    @drajah1986 2 года назад +2

    Man. I used to think ssj 4, ssjg, ssjgss, was to much. I'll take a next ssj stage again.

  • @NotAGrabbaghoul
    @NotAGrabbaghoul 2 года назад +7

    People gotta remember that MUI is a Fan Translation, there’s only Omen & Ultra Instinct. It’s not Mastered, it’s referred to as Complete sometimes but the name is Autonomous Ultra Instinct. Which means it’s not True, Mastered, Final, or anything else, Goku has had a latter sat in front of him since he went Silver. Also considering how Super Sayian God went? This makes even more sense imho

    • @SaiyanJoestar
      @SaiyanJoestar 2 года назад

      DB fandom doesn't read the manga, they just watch content creators go over manga spoilers.

  • @ssgsssuperman5142
    @ssgsssuperman5142 2 года назад +7

    What ever happened to using the principles of Ui in the other forms?

  • @Mark-zo1hs
    @Mark-zo1hs 2 года назад +18

    So, are we gonna get like 20 different variations of Ultra Instinct. One with his emotions, one without emotions, one he can't control, one where he is hungry etc.
    You all get my point.

    • @cupajoe640
      @cupajoe640 2 года назад +4

      Ya its stupid. Why not ss forms? That made sense. More power new levels. 1,234.. etc

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 2 года назад

      Goku is always hungry.

    • @vogue-ish8638
      @vogue-ish8638 2 года назад +4

      @@cupajoe640 yall are so slow

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 2 года назад +1

      When people ask “is Ultra Instinct a transformation or technique?” the answer should always be “yes but actually no. Sometimes is sometimes isn’t.”

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 2 года назад +1

      Once you understand that ui was never meant for mortals to use, all this makes perfect sense

  • @avoiceacrosstheworld1943
    @avoiceacrosstheworld1943 2 года назад +2

    These ultra instinct variants are coming like Covid

  • @nickcarroll5840
    @nickcarroll5840 2 года назад +20

    Silver haired UI is goku doing his best Angel impression, the new UI form is goku doing his best saiyan impression. Whis told goku in the beginning of this arc to save the silver haired form for when he really needs it. So from this I conclude that the silver haired UI probably has its own abilities separate (and better) from his True UI, but gokus True UI is better suited for him for general fighting. For instance, the “avatar” ability might be an “angel UI” exclusive, because it requires a calm mind. Evidence for this can be seen when goku wakes up from being unconscious, already in his silver haired form. Just my two cents. Good video

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 2 года назад +3

      Silver hair ui was never meant for mortals
      That’s what they’re trying to convey in this arc which makes goku accessing it even more impressive
      He can’t stay tranquil 24-7 like an angel. That’s where this evolved version of omen comes in
      It’s weaker but more convenient

    • @slushie-kun
      @slushie-kun 2 года назад +1

      you can call it Susanoo man, we all know. it's cool. lol

  • @t.bjammer6236
    @t.bjammer6236 2 года назад +7

    It’s become Overly complicated. Why do you think it might be base when his hair is still styled in omen? And if he does master it without transforming then does he just never transform again? and what about the silver form now? What’s that? I’m dizzy 😵‍💫

    • @My_Master_Waves
      @My_Master_Waves 2 года назад +1

      They will still come up with some bs like it takes too much stamina and energy to use so it's a last resort things BS.
      I hate dbs lately.

  • @BriantheWolverine
    @BriantheWolverine 2 года назад +73

    I’m pretty sure him awakening into the silver hair form again means this isn’t Goku at full UI power. I’m sure he’s going to break through his limits and get a more powerful version of the silver haired form again as well

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад +17

      Oh boy more Super transformations...

    • @chanceneck8072
      @chanceneck8072 2 года назад +1

      I think so, too. This felt very rushed. It seems like there is more to it, that they´re not telling us yet but it´s very unlikely that this was MUI at full power. It almost didn´t feel as if it was Goku willingly tapping into it. It almost felt more like as if it was sort of "given" to him, if you know what I mean.... Like, when I compare this to the TOP when he fought Jiren, that MUI was earned. He struggled hard for it and focused. Here, he basically just woke up. Like some sort of divine awakening... Idk what to make of it yet ...... 🤔🤷‍♂

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 2 года назад +6

      lol Goku’s never at “full power.” There’s always another transformation.

    • @ChodyRay
      @ChodyRay 2 года назад +4

      @@spritvio639 yeah... It's dragon ball. I don't get why people get so upset over transformations. It's literally the staple of dragon ball. Stop watching if it bothers you that much lmao

    • @t.bjammer6236
      @t.bjammer6236 2 года назад +7

      @@ChodyRay he barely said anything. Stop being so sensitive.

  • @mattttwalker18
    @mattttwalker18 2 года назад +2

    I hope this isn’t leading toward some Retcon where we find out Goku was actually in UI the whole time while fighting Uub, Uub should not be that strong prior to training with Goku/Gods

  • @matthewolson2386
    @matthewolson2386 2 года назад +49

    Saiyans have always relied on their instincts and emotions so I find it perfectly fitting for Goku to have increase in power by combining UI and Saiyan prowess in battle. We have talked about this before in both Goku and Vegeta finding their own path and this is more progression in Goku's path of UI, MUI or TUI. I am sure the same will happen for Vegeta as he progresses cause I dont think he will ever adopt the mindset that Beerus has and be fully a destroyer. So, it makes sense to me that Vegeta will have UE, MUE and TUE eventually to match Goku. Their not Gods, their Saiyans and protectors at the same time with godlike powers

  • @Armirzy
    @Armirzy 2 года назад +3

    Totally confusing. Just like when they gave Super Saiyan grade 1 2 3 4, then full powerd. Too many categories. I can't wait until Goku achieves total enlightenment where he can access any of his power ups without transforming. At this rate he almost has all the colors of the rainbow 😂

  • @youfirst6611
    @youfirst6611 2 года назад +27

    Wow, I can’t wait until the next arc where Goku will try to seek power beyond Ultra Instict.
    That way we can get Ascended Ultra Instict(Grade 2), Ultra Ultra Instinct(Grade 3), Full Power Ultra Instinct(Grade 4), Ultra Instict 2 and 3 etc.
    The never ending journey to mastery😒

    • @ChodyRay
      @ChodyRay 2 года назад

      Yeah welcome to dragon ball. That's been dragon balls go to since the 90s. Stop watching if it bothers you 😩

    • @youfirst6611
      @youfirst6611 2 года назад +5

      @@ChodyRay I never said it bothered me. I love transformations and power up in the series.
      I just don’t like how much their playing footsies with Ultra instinct. Toyotaro has no idea what to do with it cause narratively giving Goku this form writes you into a corner. Then just let him have omen until your ready to give him the next level.
      I know when the anime comes back their gonna scrap what the manga has done and go their own way. Which sounds infinitely better to me, since UI made more sense in the anime.

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 2 года назад +1

      @@youfirst6611 I wish db fans could upgrade their reading comprehension skills every arc just like that
      But it always stays at zero💀

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 2 года назад

      @@youfirst6611 ui is not like any other simple db transformation
      It has layers and a lot of context to it

    • @SaiyanJoestar
      @SaiyanJoestar 2 года назад

      @XenoMassxx Buu saga says hello 🤗

  • @Heelturnkayfabe
    @Heelturnkayfabe 2 года назад +2

    Bro please explain the KI hologram,
    Is it a Ultra Instinct Hologram or is that just black and white coloring in the manga?

  • @issy785
    @issy785 2 года назад +9

    pretty sure it’s just called Ultra Instinct Sign, when they say it’s “different” they’re saying it’s different from Perfect UI, it’s not an entirely new form, it’s just sign
    we’ve also seen Goku use sign before with emotion when fighting Moro

    • @universalg_
      @universalg_ 2 года назад

      No I don’t think goku was using emotions against Moro. If you reread the Moro arc goku and Merus trained for goku to sustain omen compared to using power. Once goku starts to learn that he’s on the disadvantage, he starts to power up which is not the same as rage or using emotions. He is merely powering up as if he was doing what he did in the manga top against jiren

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад

      And he got beat hard. Then needed to control his emotions when Merus died to access the superior white haired ultra instinct he starts this arc with.

    • @yee9098
      @yee9098 2 года назад +2

      In the Moro arc he did show emotion when using Sign, but not on the same level as he did during this fight. With Moro he was still using Sign to imitate the angels, it was just a weaker and more uncompleted version of PUI
      UI is just getting convoluted but in order to understand it better, i just take it as this form of UI is like “perfect UI sign” since it’s basically just Sign with saiyan instincts, making it UI’s “true form” for Goku specifically as he’s not trying to copy the angels anymore
      PUI is still his most powerful transformation, it’s just now he’ll just resort to it when pushed into a corner and will probably use UI Sign more often since that fits him more

    • @nocap6000
      @nocap6000 2 года назад

      It’s literally a new form lmao look at the colored manga pages. UI sign Goku has silver eyes and the majestic UI aura, this new UI Goku with emotions has yellow eyes and that same sharp aura that bardock had when he fought gas

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 2 года назад

      Right but now that he has a better understanding of himself
      He can use omen with emotions whereas in the Moro arc he wasn’t able to

  • @YumiYuna.
    @YumiYuna. 2 года назад +13

    MUI might still be stronger form but True UI is his basic form which he can use at anytime. So I guess it MUI will play as the final card if there nothing left and True UI will be like ssb which he use it in every battle to he meet someone stronger enough to beat in which MUI will show up.

  • @XarocXIII
    @XarocXIII 2 года назад +11

    Tbh. I had hoped, that unlike Ultra Instinct manifesting Ki in the Shape of Gokuu's humanoid Form, that his Omen Form would manifest Ki in the Shape of his Oozaru Form. Would be neat Way to bring that back, without having to bring back Tails and such. Maybe after he re-"perfected" his own Version of it.

    • @car02323
      @car02323 2 года назад +2

      I rather the humanoid form but I don't know why it has no tail. It makes no sense. With the saiyan tail it would be perfect .

    • @JACQUEZJOHNSON23
      @JACQUEZJOHNSON23 2 года назад

      Not that's lame glad he just do the gaint mode normal

    • @SaiyanJoestar
      @SaiyanJoestar 2 года назад

      He did a mouth blast against Gas; his savagery was shown while fighting.

  • @scottmon23
    @scottmon23 2 года назад +2

    The aura in the manga is spikey. Normally UI Omen has a smooth aura right?

  • @jordanjones7686
    @jordanjones7686 2 года назад +4

    If this is the “True Ultra Instinct” for Goku, then Silver Haired Ultra Instinct is final form for Goku. It should only be used in situations like Moro and Jiren where the oppenent was basically unbeatable. For years, Ultra Instinct was so popular because it was treated like a rarity in Dragon Ball. Now, Goku can just use it whenever he wants basically making all previous transformations obsolete. Ultra Instinct needs to take a backseat in the Super story until Toyotaro and Toriyama figure out what exactly are they going to do with it.

  • @tankbodypillow8701
    @tankbodypillow8701 2 года назад +7

    i feel like with the introduction of true UI, i feel like a arc or 2 we'll see SSJ True Ultra instinct. Since he can use his emotions while in that form, itll allow him to utilize his saiyan forms unlike before.
    I dont know how i feel about this actually happening, but this seems like the natural line of progression with forms.
    Not sure if this will be like SSJB where its god and ssj combined and sorta makes its own thing, or if it will seem like UI ontop of normal SSJ

  • @lNer0xl
    @lNer0xl 2 года назад +17

    The fact that we got already 3 UI's is not good imo. It makes UI not special anymore even though it is a top tier technique. But i have to say that the Granolah arc was not good for me.

    • @vogue-ish8638
      @vogue-ish8638 2 года назад

      How is it not special now?

    • @JeromeADavis
      @JeromeADavis 2 года назад +1

      @@vogue-ish8638 there's MULTIPLE forms of it. That's literally cheapening it.

    • @JeromeADavis
      @JeromeADavis 2 года назад

      @@vogue-ish8638 and originally they said this form would protect you from anything and as The story goes on that's definitely not true so it's just stupid.

    • @lNer0xl
      @lNer0xl 2 года назад +1

      @Umbral Enchantress but you cant compare it to ssj since it is not really a transformation. MUI was supposed to be the ultimate thing with omen being the "nerfed" one. UI was supposed to be a special thing only a few could achieve and now he has multiple forms? whats coming next?

    • @ryutsubohachi5615
      @ryutsubohachi5615 2 года назад

      This arc had some good idea’s actually but there a lot of problems with this arc it’s a mix bad for me.

  • @RyonMugen
    @RyonMugen 2 года назад +2

    You know what's bullllshiitt. Beast Gohan. That hair is bananas!

    • @jfitnesshealth
      @jfitnesshealth 2 года назад

      LOL sounds like angry video game nerd. You know whats bulllllllllllllshit lol

  • @kamikazexd1125
    @kamikazexd1125 2 года назад +5

    The silver hair is the calm perfected angelic form. While this black haired is the Goku specific rage boosted ui, which sometimes works better for Goku because he allways got stronger using his rage.

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад +1

      So Toyotaro disregarded what Merus was talking to Goku about last arc?

    • @qlasalle
      @qlasalle 2 года назад

      @@spritvio639 I think it's important to know different situations call for different methods.

    • @dronzie
      @dronzie 2 года назад +1

      @@qlasalle Different situations like "this guy is stronger than the last guy we fought"? 😄

    • @JeromeADavis
      @JeromeADavis 2 года назад

      @@qlasalle but still wouldn't make any sense. The rage boosted form if you can even call it that would still be weaker than the ultimate form no? And just the fact that we all have to discuss this like we are doing is proof that the writers are trash at explaining this.

  • @briandyer6809
    @briandyer6809 2 года назад +3

    You know this is TRUE ULTRA INSTINCT SIGN right . When the silver haired form came back Gas couldn't break free and thrown like a ragdoll into space. It was Granolas arc he has to get the final blow . They will get to the black haired form being his permanent state and silver being the True MUI transformation with emotions so they can maintain Goku's character in battle vs being mentally checked out in current MUI.

  • @ryanlachance1271
    @ryanlachance1271 2 года назад +3

    Geekdom we still out here years later

  • @chi-townkakarot6582
    @chi-townkakarot6582 2 года назад +3

    They nerfed Goku down in the beginning of this arc because Mastered Ultra Instinct is too powerful a form. Once they introduced other properties of UI the form itself became irrelevant. Now Emotional Ultra Instinct is somehow stronger than Silver Haired Goku? The forms he used to take down Jiren and Moro?

  • @4LiveRastaJoy
    @4LiveRastaJoy 2 года назад +1

    I would love spikey black hair with silver eyes and a silver aura

  • @edgrrr2012
    @edgrrr2012 2 года назад +6

    I can't see this implying base goku with ui because wouldn't that mean it's not a transformation? I also don't like this being considered 'true' ui when silver hair was being called the perfected form. I don't like the continuous complications of forms.

    • @lrainwater1608
      @lrainwater1608 2 года назад +1

      That’s what I’m saying. Why wouldn’t the mastered Ui be the true ui and this form is just a saiyan variant of it

    • @edgrrr2012
      @edgrrr2012 2 года назад

      @Umbral Enchantress sure but his appearance fighting with his emotions looked like omen

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +9

    *Goku's Susanoo*
    Uchiha Clan: Are our Sisanoos a joke to you?

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 2 года назад +1

      Toyotaro stole from Naruto. Cut and dry

    • @MARMAR-xw6gj
      @MARMAR-xw6gj 2 года назад +1

      well susanos are just jojo stands but big so jojo is first to do it

    • @ReliousFlareStar
      @ReliousFlareStar 2 года назад +1

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days please tell me you think Naruto invented the projected energy body technique lol

    • @souleraser5924
      @souleraser5924 2 года назад

      Narutard.

    • @chrislewis7006
      @chrislewis7006 2 года назад

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days look at Naruto’s clothes from the first part look at his hair color and look at his hairstyle and tell me it’s not goku transformed cut and dry

  • @arthurjlofton
    @arthurjlofton 2 года назад +2

    We all know that eventually Goku will apply Kaio-ken x100 with Super Sayien God blue while in true Ultra Instinct form and still have to transform into something new to beat a foe.

  • @playwithme30
    @playwithme30 2 года назад +2

    If all the angels are in ultra instinct and they all have white hair than that's what they should give Goku. His normal hair turned white

  • @dalymufc
    @dalymufc 2 года назад +4

    Im ignoring this whole chaper when it comes to Ui its utter trash the retcons, nerfs and BS he has done to UI, i mean UI with emotions makes no fecking sense and goes against what the whole pouint of it is.

  • @saleemali4822
    @saleemali4822 2 года назад +20

    It would be amazing to change ultra instinct aura color like to red for this new form keeping his eyes silver , this would be a true primal ultra instinct form

    • @Nimodog19
      @Nimodog19 2 года назад +1

      I doubt it would be Red considering Gohan’s new form has red eyes.
      Maybe Yellow

    • @saleemali4822
      @saleemali4822 2 года назад

      @@Nimodog19
      That came to mind as well too yeah , but red would be like a callback to one transformation in dbs top opening where goku new form was hinted

  • @Mr.Masenko
    @Mr.Masenko 2 года назад +1

    The balance between trusting his instincts and utilizing his emotions, making him purely act within his nature. That’s some deep philosophy right there

  • @yujiro496
    @yujiro496 2 года назад +2

    I thought the whole point to use ultra instinct to its maximum ability is to not have any emotions hindering the mind or did I miss something? Why do they keep retconning stuff in this series it’s getting quite annoying I’m ngl

  • @teleportedbreadfor3days
    @teleportedbreadfor3days 2 года назад +9

    So Goku mastered Ultra Instinct according to both Whis and Beerus, then Toyotaro straight up decides ‘no he didn’t’ and gives us ‘True Ultra Instinct’. That name alone sounds like he’s trying to put in something else in replacement out of a distaste for UI. Honestly, idk what he’s trying to do anymore…

    • @Thekinguk2j
      @Thekinguk2j 2 года назад +2

      No they never said he mastered ui…🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 2 года назад +2

      @@Thekinguk2j The silver hair is mastered Ultra Instinct.

    • @EmitNen
      @EmitNen 2 года назад +2

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days facts 😂

    • @Thekinguk2j
      @Thekinguk2j 2 года назад

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days no, you’re both wrong. Mastered ui is a fan made name. They’ve never called ui “mastered” in literally every medium of dragonball. They’ve called it “complete”, “autonomous”, or just plain “ui” but never “mastered”. Both whis and merus both said he hasn’t even come close to mastering it. Fans keep spreading misinformation. Even if it’s small. It has a huge effect on this community.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 2 года назад

      @@Thekinguk2j I wasn’t typing ‘mastered’ Ultra Instinct like that was its name. I know there’s Ultra Instinct Omen, the initial state, and then Ultra Instinct, with ‘Ultra Instinct’ being the state of being ‘mastered’.
      Also, at the very least, don’t bring up Merus, because he’s a good part of what my point is with Toyotaro and Ultra Instinct. He was written after the manga’s version of Tournament of Power Arc. Toyotaro most definitely has a hatred for Ultra Instinct, having been actively trying to make it useless and now he’s finally seeking to replace it. Trying to overwrite the prospect of Goku having mastered UI by making everyone who are experts on it instead say he didn’t was just the first step. And what Toyotaro began doing, starting either after Merus or simply later into the Moro Arc, was probably a second thought he had while he was making the story. I say that cause at first, it really seemed like Goku having not actually mastered UI simply or mostly had to do due with fact that he couldn’t yet activate it willingly without being beaten well enough beyond his limits. Hell, even Geekdom thought that was Goku truly mastering Ultra Instinct when he first activated it in the final battle, after Toyotaro made Goku go stupid when he initially wielded Omen.

  • @ab020135
    @ab020135 2 года назад +6

    Lmao bro enough with the power ups. This is out of line now.

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад +1

      lmaoo.
      what dragonballs hype is all about.
      keep em coming. tori n toyo!! :D

    • @ab020135
      @ab020135 2 года назад

      @@krishrama Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or serious but nah, that’s what CURRENT Dragon Ball is based off of.

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад

      @@ab020135 a bit of both man. i hear ya tho. been fan of this series since 90s. started in dbz then went back to watch original db with kid goku. that series was just as fun and entertaining. the fights were good. especially towards the end when goku grows up and fights in the last budokai before dbz. ya even in spite of not not having any crazy power ups like dbz. but i gotta say in dbz era it definitely became more about power ups post kaioken. all the super saiyans forms. but at that time it felt more natural and not over done or played out...
      it was fresh and hype. :)
      then when dbs came along it kinda got tedious with the recolored forms and all that. but i admit the god ki was interesting. i did like the UI stuff. but as with many fans with dbs getting fatigued with the constant transformations. these guys should have seriously saved MUI for the true end to the series. now its become fodderized and a joke...and they gotta make up shit to get outta corner the wrote themselves into. like this true UI now. its amusing. less hype. but still hype whenever its used. lolz. anyway. but this power up formula is nothing new to this franchise. sometimes its a beautiful thing like with gohan and piccolo now getting well deserved power ups as well. just my opinion tho.

  • @hyperartfan7952
    @hyperartfan7952 2 года назад +1

    I think I get it, in the new manga chapter if you pay attention goku in this new UI has silver eyes, but his hair when his aura isn't active is just base hair, no highlights like omen, this is him using UI full power in base, something whis hints at will be impossible till he learns his own UI, it truly has become something like kaioken where it's not a form but is, mostly it's him using his UI in base, atleast that's my theory, idk tho.

  • @Mikerille
    @Mikerille 2 года назад +2

    Lol idk why anyone finds ultra instinct confusing, but to anyone confused, I’ll make it simple!
    There are two FORMS of ultra instinct: both have more pure divine ki, and because of that increase a races natural abilities, which is why gokus saiyan power actives so much faster than usual (the ability to get stronger mid fight and heal quicker, fun note, vegetas hakai energy also gives him faster than his normal god ki boosts, which is still a LOT more than normal ki)
    Those two forms are omen, and complete.
    Omen can use his emotions to increase his power but it’s unstable, complete ultra instinct requires clear mind and no emotion (so it ends up weaker than omen which allows to use emotion)
    Then there are the techniques of ultra instinct, which is autonomous ultra instinct, it’s shown even roshi using a pseudo one becomes stronger, faster, and more durable when using it. The ability is able to become combined with previous forms, making them all leagues stronger, however they are All less of a boost than the actual ultra instinct omen and complete forms, which naturally uses it to the full capabilities.

    • @LaztstaNd
      @LaztstaNd 2 года назад +1

      It can't be THAT simple, if you are using Roshi (a character that by the end of OG Dragon Ball could be considered "fodder" in terms of power), to explain something, that only the most powerful beings in the multiverse can achieve.
      It's shit writing, is the most obvious explanation, imo.

    • @Mikerille
      @Mikerille 2 года назад +1

      @@LaztstaNd or it’s just how the system works, and if you dislike the writing it’s fine, but the explanation still is correct my man

    • @Mikerille
      @Mikerille 2 года назад

      @@LaztstaNd also for roshi, keep in mind after observing Krillin gaining perfect ki control, he did too, before the ToP, so the scaling is kinda fine for that, otherwise roshi would be much weaker, though who knows if he works the same way as normal humans, he is immortal and mystically enhanced, so he could function like an android in that regard.

    • @LaztstaNd
      @LaztstaNd 2 года назад +1

      @@Mikerille Modern DB is solely focused on selling merch, that's all.
      You know how in the TOP, all the God's of Desctruction stood up as a sign of respect when Goku got MUI for the first time?
      That was symbolic for "we see you as an equal/someone special", that means that Goku is at the very least on par with GoD level, how in the fuck is Moro or Granolah or Gas even touching him right now?
      It's contrived, makes no sense and I'm 99% sure everybody involved with Super's production wanted to wrap things up with TOP and the Broly movie, but corporate wants the $$$, so here we are...

  • @zabuza3663
    @zabuza3663 2 года назад +4

    His true ultra instinct. Keyword there is his. So that tells me that UI will have a different true form depending on who uses it

  • @LaztstaNd
    @LaztstaNd 2 года назад +4

    Dragon Ball Content creators, should be a lot more critical of DBS and modern DB in general.
    It's a fucking shit-show with awful writing, people should just call it like it is.

  • @autohrap5884
    @autohrap5884 2 года назад +2

    It’s always going to be a true true not really true UI, they need to stop and make it an unattainable feat. Or like Sora and the anti-form transformation…. No control, just happens randomly and helps Goku learn about himself as a saiyan, person and martial artist in ways he could never be taught by anyone. Give us some sweet combat in tandem with character development.

  • @NineNovem
    @NineNovem 2 года назад +2

    Okay, powering up a transformation with emotion is nothing new, but I'm a bit confused now. If you don't need emotional control to use this version of UI, then what was stopping Vegeta from using it this whole time? He has the ki control necessary to use Godly ki and you could straight up be infuriated and use UI just fine. So how does UI work in the manga? Can somebody drop some knowledge on me?

    • @My_Master_Waves
      @My_Master_Waves 2 года назад +1

      It's bs and explanations contradict themselves so at the moment it's hard to say anything

    • @NineNovem
      @NineNovem 2 года назад

      @@My_Master_Waves I'm starting to think that sticking with the anime's way of handling UI would've been better. "Remember your martial arts and suppress your emotions" doesn't make a whole lot of sense when ya have a motherfucker who literally trained under the same guy, learned the same fundamental godly skills but can't use it (Vegeta). And yet Roshi, a mortal with no divine training, can use a bootleg version because he's been practicing a while? Sure.

  • @KingRamone
    @KingRamone 2 года назад +4

    Just another a$$ pull to make goku the strongest

  • @kamdeoray3573
    @kamdeoray3573 2 года назад +6

    I'm sorry to say that what was once an interesting idea (UI) has no started to go on a downward slope

  • @ZenRyoku
    @ZenRyoku 2 года назад +2

    UL-TRUE-INSTINCT... 💯
    That's how it should be put...

  • @trumangarrick9646
    @trumangarrick9646 2 года назад +1

    The question is where does it go from here, goku and co have bow fought the legitimate strongest in the universe, which also means gas and granola are stronger than broly, how much farther can we go with this?

  • @KyleKurun
    @KyleKurun 2 года назад +3

    This might be the omen form of goku s version of ultra instinct , now he might master this version and it could have a completely different look to normal mui

  • @Threatgod1
    @Threatgod1 2 года назад +3

    Goku's gonna go super ultra omega blanco instinct

  • @snowdog03
    @snowdog03 2 года назад +2

    So are there characters named Puffed Rice, Corn Flake and Bran Flake?.

  • @Faction.Paradox
    @Faction.Paradox 2 года назад +1

    Look forward to the next arc where Whis says using emotions actually makes UI weaker.

  • @DopeBoyy1017
    @DopeBoyy1017 2 года назад +3

    There are many dragon ball fans that are trying to find ways to explain and except the bs ultra instinct retcon (emotionless/self movement) in the comments. The dragon ball community is full of yes men that don’t care about good writing just take what they can get to add to power scaling 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @hritwikranjan2198
    @hritwikranjan2198 2 года назад +3

    Did they write themselves into a corner with UI and MUI?

  • @ananthnarayan7011
    @ananthnarayan7011 2 года назад +2

    The whole point of UI was to let the body move and respond on its own to the attack, which was possible by clearing the minds of thoughts and emotions, and thats how he got to the silver haired form, so mixing emotions to the UI form would make it less effective as his body is not able to react on its own rather Goku is consciously doing it. That would mean that the true essence of UI is missing...

    • @jasondoyle2490
      @jasondoyle2490 2 года назад +1

      This is what happens when the creator of the series hands the reigns over to a fan-fiction writer

    • @rari2xx
      @rari2xx 2 года назад +1

      That’s the basis of UI correct, what you’re missing is Goku’s saiyan instinct is what holds him back using MUI to his full extent. Whis told him he needs to find his own way of UI due to him being a saiyan, hence why he’s using omen.

    • @ananthnarayan7011
      @ananthnarayan7011 2 года назад

      @@rari2xx yes that sounds right, I feel bad that after showing him as a beast in perfected UI form they have to scale him down...though it makes sense if they are to continue the series forward...then that form becomes too powerful and goku as a character would loose relevance, somewhat like Dr. Manhattan...

    • @rari2xx
      @rari2xx 2 года назад

      @@ananthnarayan7011 agreed. Goku using MUI against Jiren was a tease of what his true power could be with Ultra Instinct. But due to his saiyan nature, he has to start with omen.

  • @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
    @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 2 года назад +1

    When I first saw chapter 85 when it came out on the 20th, at first I though that it was Ultra Instinct in Base Form.

  • @brmawe
    @brmawe 2 года назад +3

    Can't they just stick with ONE version of UI?

    • @realtruth1448
      @realtruth1448 2 года назад +4

      They gotta keep wanking for new forms... you think UI is the final form of goku? Ha don’t make me laugh, they gonna make sure every saiyans hair matches the multi color spectrum, but maybe they’ll add in something unique like energy floating around them similar to merged zamasu, that somewhat physical object of energy, and maybe some marking on their body like orange piccolo, but yea DBS is just a huge money grab

  • @grimdaggz
    @grimdaggz 2 года назад +5

    Soooooooo UI Grade 3...
    Not sure what's the big deal. No one ever refers to SS as SS Grade 4, just SS. If anything, TRUE UI will just replace regular UI & maybe UI Omen as well. Expect it to be defined more next arc.

  • @paintbrush3554
    @paintbrush3554 2 года назад +1

    UI concept is now convoluted and silly but I always prefered the black hair omen aesthetic over another hair recolor like the silver. At least I can appreciate UI going black to the black haired UI

  • @DarkZ0l
    @DarkZ0l 2 года назад +1

    After reading the comments, I'm starting to think most people just look at the pictures and skip the text.

    • @vogue-ish8638
      @vogue-ish8638 2 года назад

      Exactly this community is so braindead, and geekdom is a part of it

    • @s.s.k7081
      @s.s.k7081 2 года назад

      Well dragonball fans can't read 🤣.

  • @T39Omi
    @T39Omi 2 года назад +3

    True ultra instinct is just Susanno

  • @mohamedred5746
    @mohamedred5746 2 года назад +5

    Lets be Honest here dbs Manga is Trash, boring and inconsistent...
    I hurt me to say it but Fan manga is way Better than this nonsense, ex; Dragon ball Kakumei...
    Sorry if i hurt the feelings of some Fangirls who cant Accept critics...

  • @smoothoperator3739
    @smoothoperator3739 2 года назад +1

    This looks completely like Omen, there's no difference it's just a stronger Omen. It's like they were thinking "Hmmm...people liked Omen more so lets make it cheap and bring it back and call it a new transformation they'll totally buy it" lol

  • @ke8mattj
    @ke8mattj 2 года назад +1

    Next issue: Goku reveals his new UI form: Limit Breaker SSGSSJ Limit Breaking Kaioken Limit Breaker UI.

  • @bobbyjohnson965
    @bobbyjohnson965 2 года назад +3

    Dbs is not well written and clearly by the numbers of the movie it shows.

  • @jboyer
    @jboyer 2 года назад +3

    I don't think it's like a true ultra instinct more like a Saiyans version of the ultra instinct so maybe vegeta will be able to do something similar but he wants to do it his own way

    • @EmitNen
      @EmitNen 2 года назад +1

      Vegeta literally could’ve gotten ultra instinct by Akira’s or Toyotaro’s own logic. Goku literally did it in a way Vegeta would’ve essentially done it. Vegeta could’ve gotten this form while Goku could’ve kept MUI.

    • @DarkZ0l
      @DarkZ0l 2 года назад

      @@EmitNen Except Vegeta didn't want to get it. He wanted his own unique path. This has been shown multiple times. Vegeta won't even use instant transmission even though he knows it, just because that's "Goku's technique". Seriously, it's like after this arc, most of the dragon ball fans iq dropped

    • @newkiller4457
      @newkiller4457 2 года назад

      @@EmitNen FAXX, but yk toriyama is involved with the script of DBS, since this arc involves Bardock and we all know who loves Bardock, but also forgets like a dumbass m worst of all toriyama says he's not quitting anytime soon.

  • @AminoSpeaks
    @AminoSpeaks 2 года назад +2

    Can’t wait until they reveal the “true ultimate evolved mastered” form of Ultra Instinct!

  • @jordanmatthews4749
    @jordanmatthews4749 2 года назад +1

    It's gonna be called
    "Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Ultra Instinct"
    🤣

  • @SSJ-rt2cz
    @SSJ-rt2cz 2 года назад +12

    I'm sure UI is something that Goku will never fully tame instead he will continuously evolve to the point where he goes even further beyond the angels comprehension.
    Also I hope they bring back Saiyan tails and some extent SSJ4 and Goku taps a SSJ4 like power with UI.

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад

      *the writer's comprehension

    • @Far2Sega4U
      @Far2Sega4U 2 года назад +1

      Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan 5 being canon is still what i think theyre leading upto, when Goku learns to make them his own Saiyan forms the black haired UI when completed will become SS4 and the white haired UI being SS5

  • @jg5004
    @jg5004 2 года назад +13

    I mean, makes sense. A Saiyan’s instinct has always been their “primal” emotions.

  • @DimkaSulegnaa
    @DimkaSulegnaa 2 года назад +2

    What I get from this is that there will be a “true” Ultra Ego to follow lol

  • @mirkomacesic3933
    @mirkomacesic3933 2 года назад +1

    What about Shaggy and El Hermano. Gohan Blanco is waiting for them

  • @glouis499
    @glouis499 2 года назад +3

    If its “true UI” how come he still transforms into MUI, swear this manga is a joke

    • @godslayer8894
      @godslayer8894 2 года назад +1

      Could be his true mastered ui form

    • @glouis499
      @glouis499 2 года назад +3

      @@godslayer8894 MUI checks his emotions, the “true ui” lets him use his emotions, what’s the point of introducing that a chapter before and then he wakes up and does the same thing we seen him do before knowing the conditions to even use MUI, it’s dumb af

  • @lilrock447
    @lilrock447 2 года назад +9

    Super is lame now tbh

    • @GuyVick
      @GuyVick 2 года назад +1

      I wouldn’t say lame but falling apart

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 2 года назад +1

      @@GuyVick Nah man it's lame already

    • @freshkingdior2351
      @freshkingdior2351 2 года назад +1

      @@GuyVick lame asf its for kids

    • @GuyVick
      @GuyVick 2 года назад

      @@freshkingdior2351 naw dbs still has potential there just me.

  • @edwint1780
    @edwint1780 2 года назад +1

    UI forms have become essentially like versions of the Apple products. Every arc there is going to be an upgraded version. This is essentially an example of the writers having written themselves into a corner. They gave Goku the "mastered" version of the UI in the TOP too soon. Now they are trying to figure out a way how a "Mastered" version of the form can be improved by being more mastered lol. Mastered UI squared. Then there will be a mastered UI cubed and so forth. I guess this isn't much different how there are different grades of the super sayian like the grade 2, grade 3, 4. Same concept.

  • @nicholaswynn1671
    @nicholaswynn1671 2 года назад +2

    I bet what comes next is ultra instinct with Kaioken.