There is another issue that rarely gets discussed - There are good self-defence instructors who can teach, and would like to teach, soft skills (examples: risk assessment planning; communications skills; basic personal first aid; etc etc etc..) BUT the vast majority of people who want to learn self defence don't want to learn that - they want the magic 'Five-Point-Palm Exploding-Heart-Technique' and what's worse, they want it in a couple of easy lessons where they won't even have to break a sweat.
this comment! totally agree. The reason these charlatans exist is because of supply and demand, demand dictactes the supply. If you teach women "real" self defense they will just leave and get bored. They don't really come to learn how to defend themselves, they come for entertainment value. Its easier to teach them what they want to hear, they get to throw a few punches on man wearing padding and feel good about themselves, and instructor doesn't go broke for not having any customers.
@@dusk6159 except when it happens - I have been sent reeling by people using little force but with them getting the angle exactly right and having both my balance disrupted and my ability to restore my balance hindered by the force and direction of the force applied... But, I'd also say, that's not 'self-defence' that's high level 'martial arts' skills. Also in those cases, add in some luck and often some degree of compliance... Person 'A' does the attack and then person 'A' allows person 'B' the time to do the defence :)
You are not wrong. I am trying to convince my friend to at least workout for health reasons and their response is always that their are lazy or have no time. I ask what they do and they tell me they do nothing each day…..😮
@@TheLuconic We were talking about that both yesterday and today at in-person tai chi sessions that I run - the problem seems to be that post pandemic, people are either lazy, still worried (about catching covid), or simply unaware of how important exercise is. Now, in fairness, being fit is not a defence against covid, but it is a defence against a lot of things that reduce either or both of the length or the quality of life that we have.
As a medic I see a lot of people who have been choked by their spouse. It happens all the time but injuries are generally superficial. It does however make the victim feel powerless. This explains why power fantasy is an easy sell
It's extreamly more difficult to beat someone who is defensive that someone that is agressive. The main reason many sports penalize pasivity is because if people played it safe, many combats will be incrediblely boring, but thats the idea of self defense, avoid harm.
yes, in sports when a counter-fighter fights a counter-fighter, is boring AF. because both of them are wating for the other to make and action to counter.
same here. I practice (as many of us) many martial arts/combat sports and run on a weekly basis. When I speak about martial arts to people and they mention how good it must be for self-defense and which techniques I would use to overpower any random attackers out in the street, I usually answer that I don't do that for fighting in the street and that in such situation, negotiation and/or run is always the preferable option. Only if I'm cornered I'd answer with fighting, but I don't think I would feel comfortable in a street fight even with years of sparring in different sports, other guy might also know some techniques, have a weapon, and so on and so on... RUN :)
As a ex- self-defense instructor I can answer this question... It's because self-defense as is commonly thought of and taught is a marketing strategy designed to facilitate making people easily overwhelmed by fear feel invincible (and invincible people don't need to defend). The really sad thing is that we have become such a fear based society that there are actually a lot of people out there that want these classes in order to help them feel less afraid... but a lot of the times it just promotes reckless behavior (which we are also into, so... win, win, win?). :( And yeah, we are insanely outnumbered by the "self-defense" industry "instructors". :(
And that would be why autistic people show up in these classes only to find an utter refusal to respect boundaries greeting them. Because that's what happens when you get a bunch of extroverts in a room and get them to feel like they can do no wrong. They get up in autistic people's face all day and won't leave them alone. And autistic people, already having difficulty with neurotypical social patterns, get overwhelmed and don't come back.
If people want to feel less afraid they need to develop their self esteem and self reliance.The more sure you feel of yourself, the less fear you feel from everything else. Not that one can be fearless, but you can minimize the fear you feel or learn to overcome it temporarily if you're in a bind.
@@DragonBee It's not usually that easy, people are complex machines and when we break it's usually a major pain in the butt to get that machine working again... especially without breaking anything else in the process.
@Nuetral768 Excuses. It needs to be done BECAUSE its hard. Everything starts with the self so people like you are the problem. Youre enabling weak people to find strength outside of themselves via GARBAGE self defense courses because its "easy" Its EAZY to look to something else for strength. We need to teach people how to look within no matter how hard it may be
I think a lot of self defence courses are often just adverts for joining whatever Martial Arts club is running them. Wrist grabs and throat grabs are the easiest to teach since there's no blocking punches or evasive movements required. The attacker is standing still and their hands are in a static position just waiting for you to apply whatever technique they decide to show you. For someone that has no idea about striking or grappling they can seem impressive and easy to pull off. The martial arts equivalent of a gateway drug.
The scene that came to mind when I read your post is the Rex Kwon Do guy from "Napolean Dynamite"..."Grab my wrist. Other hand....MY other hand" lol Serisously though, you're right, simplistic lessons like that run the danger of giving a false sense of security where the practitioner's confidence exceeds their ability. That said, I used to be one of them, and I get what instructors are trying to do there, hoping to rope in students without going "too deep" right away. Give them a taste, hope they'll come back and sign an agreement, where the real instruction will begin and they'll be provided with a better TMA education, assuming this is not a McDojo.
@@daxbradley4346 Yeah, same with displays and demo's. The idea is to show something flashy and eye catching, not necessarily realistic or practical. It's just marketing.
In my expirience, wrist grab escape can be very helpful. A copule of times my hand was grabed by a random guys who was drunk or just angry. They wanted to mess with me and i was able to get away without raising level of violence. Obviosly, no grab escape would help if they were not just angry and agressive but determined from the start to punch or choke me.
The first grading I did at a RBSD school was Pre-Fight tactics. We analysed CCTV footage of a dozen genuine self-defence scenarios and looked at the behaviour of the attackers in the lead up to the attack, and then the method of attack. We focused on avoidance drills and distance management. We learned: Threat Identification, Threat Assessment, Avoidance, Distance Management, De-escalation techniques, Pre-Fight Interview, Pre-Attack Indicators (verbal and body language cues), Understanding a violent situation, Disengagement and Escape, Understanding adrenal stress response, State laws of self-defence and assault. In 2 years of Jiu Jitsu, 18 months of Boxing none of the classes I’ve attended have mentioned any of those things at all.
@@Steve-ul8qb When I was a 2 stripe Jiu Jitsu white belt the instructor invited me to teach the breakfalls I’d learned in the evil bullshido style they call Krav Maga 😉. My BJJ Black Belt instructor had seen me doing them in Jiu Jitsu takedown training. It was a humbling but also thrilling experience being a low ranked Jiu Jitsu white belt teaching a class of BJJ Black, Brown, Purple and Blue belts for about 45 minutes. They were very open and attentive, and the student that picked them up best was a purple belt who was a police swat team member. When the class was over I had a guy who was a Judoka come over to me and tell me that the breakfalls I taught them were better and more detailed than the ones he’d learned in his Judo classes. It was a great experience.
I'm not sure how far you're going to get in BJJ/boxing if you need threat ID training (just for some free help - it's not the ref), or you're already thinking of escape...
@@celluskh6009 What are the cues that the victim of this attack missed and what was the victims biggest mistake? Enjoy: ruclips.net/video/bUYDvesAUd4/видео.html
The secret formula off realistic SD :D : 95% of SD can be learned under a minute - don't be stupid with stupid people in stupid places 2% can be learned in a day - how to use a pepper spray 2% can't be changed or learned - size and other genetic predispositions. 1% of actual hand to hand fighting skill, fitness and experience takes years to lifetime. Of course all that from the perspective of an average civilian adult in a pacified society. A child that is bullied, some adult environments and some jobs would make training worth it, but even than it is debatable wether that is self-defense or if that specific social environment requires fighting skills to socially advance, earn etc. Because, IMHO, for most people in most developed countries hand-to-hand combat is not necessarily that useful for self defense while at the same time requiring a lot of time and effort, SD businesses are bound to operate in a fantasy world of non-functional responses to non realistic threats. I know many people that train. I know many more that do not train. I have not noticed a significant difference in SD needs between them. Those that train and do use their skills out of the gym do that intentionally - either working the doors or working their egos- not because they get randomly attacked on the streets.
People who try to seize your wrists or any part of your arm are transitory in procedural motion. Their ultimate aim in seizing your wrist is to subsequently pull your body closer to them in order to stabilize your body to enhance the effectiveness of their intended strikes and/or grappling movements they're planning to execute against you. No one just walks up to someone and just grabs their wrist. Seizing is a preliminary intermediary action necessary to effect their intended primary objectives!!!
Martial arts and self defence are seen as the same thing. It couldn’t be further from the truth. Martial arts teach you how to fight. It doesn’t teach you self defence. It is assumed that if you can fight you can defend yourself. True until you factor in size, strength and aggression. Martial arts tournaments proved that martial arts do not work for self defence by their need to have different weight divisions. More telling is that they don’t allow women to compete against men. A fight requires 2 willing parties. In self defence, you are not a willing party. You are not there by choice. This necessitates a different approach to be effective. Because the fundamental differences between fighting and self defence are not recognised, you ended up with the blind teaching the blind. Fighting is hard but paradoxically, self defence is easy if you can get away from the mentality of fighting.
The only time that the two handed choke was apllied to me in real life, was when I was a teenager by a much bigger and agressive older guy. I remember being taught the drills in Karate class about breaking the two handed choke holds and counter attacking, however, I really didn't want to fight this guy, being a skinny teenager. So I instinctively kept walking back and he was unable to keep his grip. The choke wasn't hurting me at all despite his anger and larger size. Just stepping back seemed to stop it. Everytime he went fro my neck after this I just stepped back. This continued until the situaltion was resolved. (He thought that a group of us were part of a gang that had been behaving bad in that neighborhood, but I had nothing to so with them, once he was informed of this by my friends who were present, he talked friendly to us for a time, explaing all the bad tings that this gang had been doing).
One time i challenged someone to submission wresstling. It was playtime for me. He was obviously going for the rape choke. And I was like okay let it be, seems fun. And it was basically free hand given to me. A static arm is your best friend. Took the hand that was was the top of the other with no effort. And controlled his armb by three fingers. The other hand just slipped while i was moving my head. And i gain controll over his whole upper body in no time. I think it is an insult to call it a choke. I would barely call it a frame. It is an insult to grappling.
I've started to think- if you want to learn real self-defence, you should study bodyguards. Self-defence isn't a profession- nobody is going to pay you to walk through a bad neighbourhood to test out your Krav Maga on the first guy to mug you. Teaching it is a profession, and some jobs like policing have it as an aspect of their profession. Bodyguards, though, are the closest thing to self-defence as a profession, since they are at least defending others if not themselves. What professional bodyguards learn is- deescalation, observation, communication, teamwork, risk assessment, driving, cyber-security etc Yes, they learn how to fight and use weapons "as well", but those are only small (and usually avoidable) part of their occupation. They also make you think about things like your routine, your lifestyle, your job, your home, your neighbourhood, the company you keep- in other words, what kind of threats you are actually likely to actually encounter, what you can do to prevent that encounter from happening in the first place, and how to mitigate it if it does. Makes me wonder- imagine if you were hired to be your own bodyguard: what advice or rules would one say to oneself? 🤔
Avoid, deny, defend is the montra my employer uses for work place violence. I guess in a non work place perspective it would be avoided dangerous areas. Avoid becoming too intoxicated to protect yourself. If it's an high crime area or punch palace bar don't go there. Deny get good locks on your doors and or a security system. Park in high traffic areas of an establishment. Defend yourself. You don't need to win. You need to break the contact and survive. As far as techniques, there are no magic techniques. There are techniques that simply don't work and some that do but not if you don't train those techniques.
For a moment I thought that was their mantra for dealing with HR claims. Avoid dealing with the claim, if that fails deny the claim, if that fails defend against it...
Hey coach, I’ve been training in boxing for a bit in my highschool boxing club, and there are some chances that I’ll be able to get into a tournament sometime if the other schools are wanting agree to a tournament. When that happens, I want to get some advice for what I should expect, seeing as you have a lot of experience. Thanks, coach.
For me what comes first is communication then fight. I’m a 240 pound muscular 5’4 wrestler, I can’t out run many people being short and massive. But I certainly will talk my way out and defend before even thinking of getting physical cause what if they have a weapon.
@@gersonencarnacion3744 but yeah I’ve always had a bulky frame for my height. My calves are 17 inches in diameter. Which should give context for exactly how bulky I am
Funny in military hand to hand instructor tried to put myself in none escape holds after the third throw of the instructor and getting him to breath again ; he said meet your news sensei and pointed to me the trainee !...
Well, if you are attacked by a streetfighter: If he is: Stronger than you and a better fighter --> run (most of the times, otherwise there would most likely be no attack in the first place...) If he is: weaker than you and a worse fighter --> no problem at all If he is slightly Stronger than you and a worse fighter --> some techniques may have a benefit. I agree with Ramsey, if you really want to be prepared for a street fight, you need to either perform kind of UFC cage fighting for practice or go street fighting... I did some martial arts when I was younger. As a warm-up for Kung Fu, we often did "free" grappling. When I did the grappling with the trainer, he had no chance against me. His skill was way above mine, but the gap between my 120 kg vs his 70 kg could not be cover by skill (at least at a non professional fighter level). When I did Kickboxing with a 80 kg former Russian professional Kickboxer, he wiped the floor with me without sweating, despite my strength and reach advantage - but then again the ring rules don't apply on the street....
Judo is probably one of the most effective in street fights . Being that everyone's wearing clothing you can choke them and toss them around with their own clothing. Just grabbing somebody from their collar. You can choke the crap out of them.
I won't say it is not effective, it very much can be. But oddly judo is actually the only martial art that was originally intended for practice/sport. Not actual combat
@@markusmaier2277 you don't need one . This is a fighting style that uses leverage and angles . And it's the powerhouse of the martial arts. You have to be extremely strong with tremendous hand grip to compete in this
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Yes, very true. Like wrestling. Wrestling was the way they would train for submission matches.. Because if you train submissions, you might get hurt. So by training wrestling you can train to position yourself in these submissions but not really do them
I’ve tried to be as honest as I can when I have been given the honor to ”instruct” in self defense. But it is hard to get people to pay attention to instructions like ”tie your shoes”, ”don’t drink to much alcohol or preferably none at all” and my favorite ”work out regularly and eat healthy”. All of these things will keep a lot of people safer than the alternative. Most people want a sense of empowerment and confidence, and they want you to provide it in one or maybe five lessons. So I dont instruct anymore, unless I can explain all those concepts first. Then I hope that they do take martial arts classes, work out and generally try to be healthy.
I feel that even good fighting dosent fully adress self defense. One also has to learn how to use these skills and calculate risk assestments in diferent situations.
Full contact fight for your life is a very draining scenario. I've done 3 minute upstairs sprints that's less exhausting than 1 minute hard contact on a heavy bag. Maybe my technique and breath rhythm needs improvement. But I'm a very athletic person and I've been humbled. To hear all these mcdojos promising a 1 touch 0 touch knockout or a skinny person talking big it's literally concerning. Just a personal note for the "too big to strike" is a complete myth. And then there is strength. A person's can have such ridiculous grip strength their fingers and hands are literally an extra set of teeth and jaws.
Naaah.. you just overcommit (agree on all the train and get in shape part of course, I am referring to why you tire out). 10 moderate swings are better than 2 "I will take you head off" swings. I bet you start slow pow, pow, pow and then "explode" into "pow-pow-pow-step-lowkick-pow-pow-endless combo" as adrenalin kicks in. Keep your rythm and cool. You need to strike faster than your opponent, not faster than the speed of light. Also as with guns "shot placement" aka accuracy matters A LOT. You gain a big pain in the knuckles if you swing for the jaw and actually strike the forehead.
I should think that anyone who has grappled (especially in a gi) realizes the importance of defending wrist, sleeve and collar grabs. Even if you want to run away, you need to break any holds the opponent has on you first. Also, I think there is a tendency to criticize self-defense instructors for not demonstrating the techniques with a resisting opponent, but how many of the bjj or wrestling technique videos are done with active resistance? The vast majority are obviously done with cooperative assistants to enable the instructor to explain while he is doing the technique. I don't dispute that many of them (self-defense videos) are painfully inadequate in conveying how much power and explosiveness you require, but I do think that most videos ridiculing self-defense or aikido or whatever other tma are strangely doing the exact same mistake (ie. thinking that inexpertly copying the movement and tempo of the instructor prooves anything). If you try doing that with a Gordon Ryan instructional it will fail just as miserably as when you take some tma technique out of context and expect it to work without having trained it more than a few times, and without applying it with power and intent.
Somewhere out there, criminals are watching youtube "other offense" compilations, teaching them to grab wrists and laugh maniacally. They're getting stronger every day. Why don't you want people to be safe from them?
I was in the serbian military we where always told never put yourself in a situation u don't want to be in and always walk away from trouble just get up and leave and go to the next bar as an example
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Those 'self-defence' mcdojos make it worse by giving people a false sense of security by teaching hollywood-style magic moves you see in movies. I usually identify 2 types of attackers: the coward who prey on the weak & the dumdums who think they're tough. Learn how to identify these types of people & you have a better chance of removing yourself from sticky situations. On the physical part, you gotta 'get out there & train' from genuine coaches like Ramsey.
There's nothing called self defense . u either can fight or u can. Learn to strike and to grapple. It takes time but it is what need to defend yourself.
You are defenetly right I'm training muyai thai because i want to learn self defense technics and i want to enjoy sparing it's highly effective in real life for my experience, but the problem in the streets is the fear, even if you have effective skills you will lose if you are afraid this is why i also read self defense books that teach how to manage your emotions in a bad situation then i can say that a combat sport with some knowledge of psychology in a street fight are the best self defense system!
When you're in the street fight situation, you need to start thinking what you're going to do Need to look for openings Maybe you can kick a knee or you can punch at the liver. Fear will make you stop thinking. Don't stop thinking.
You can make big money teaching martial arts by giving your affluent students easy soft training while making them think they are becoming skillful hard bodied fighters. Big money is also made by running a child daycare center masquerading as a martial arts school. These are two more reasons why so many black belts get demolished in a real situation.
Power fantasy enabler: genius description of every modern dojo I've entered. When I ask the operators they all say the samething: "insurance and liability".
How else you can make money 💸💸💸 on other man / womans back. Its all about money and power 💸💸💸💸 find a real martial arts school and train . Greetings from the Netherlands 🥋 OSU 🥋
Geoff Thompson writes a lot about self defence and also about a lot of other things - worth checking out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Thompson_(writer)
I think at 1:00 where you make the distinction between you being an MMA coach versus self defence coach it's important to state that martial arts IS self defence. Because if it's not, then what is it? And if it isn't then why is it taught in armies around the world in hand-to-hand combat? Why do they teach Martial arts to the police? MMA in the U.S, army, TKD in Korean/Vietnam war etc. Therefore people may think your this 'self defence' coach title when you actually teach MMA - which can be used for self defence. Big difference, as your describing these guys who describe themselves as 'self defence coaches', charlatans you call them; techniques that require advanced striking and grappling skill to do some of their moves if even plausible at all. Did I get that right?
Self defence/tma starts slow ends up with sparring. Should encourage students to try other things. Mainly we developing a coordination which is balance with principles. Yes must be learning to out manoeuvre opponent, it's all in the feet essentially. There's good and bad in all places you can train in. Best is showing the good, what you do. So easy to criticise others. I hate classes where a coach constantly rubbished others instead of showing what he thinks works. Easy way to know is watch how the more advanced train, there abilities, either they can do it or not. Easy to check what gyms put out better comp fighters. Has yr gym got a ring in it, do the students spar. What is the goal though- fitness, coordination, self defence, sports.
Its because sports sell better which shouldn't be what they are teaching but there is at least a few people who really know what they are doing One of them is Master at Arms James keeting,Chris Clugston,Good old Judo Gene La bell and a few others. Military systems are good too as they were designed for real world combat so they work.
It strikes me as borderline criminally reckless to teach normal people these combat-based self-defense crash courses. Especially for women, for whom these seem to be most heavily marketed. I’ve met many women in and out of martial arts contexts who truly believe they’re the kind of exceptional badasses who are above danger, and that’s an extremely risky mindset, especially when it precludes caution and sense. A 120lb woman could train for 20 years and win a belt in UFC, but against all but the weakest and clumsiest men she better get lucky early on and run, because the margin for error is nonexistent. Meaningful self-defense in any reliable sense means mindfully staying out of danger and/or carrying a firearm with which you regularly practice, full stop.
I used to have two women train where I train, they were both black belts, talking to eachother wondering why our sifu never did a womans self defence class. I was a green belt at the time, and just said - two reasons, firstly, your normal training should be sufficient. Secondly, if your Male teacher can confidently teach an anti rape class, i would be questioning where he got his knowledge of rape scenarios from
Thank you for the always interesting, thought provoking and yes entertaining commentary on self defense. The general dialog on this subject seems to run the gamut of opinions. While I recognize and value your expertise in this area (or I wouldn’t be writing) , I would like to offer some, let’s say nuance to what you say. In another video, you said that self defense is a legal term rather than a thing, then went on to say you teach the opposite; but the opposite of what, a legal concept or a thing? The opposite of a legal concept is another legal concept. Perhaps we can, for the moment, define them as more than legal terms. Self defense to me is learning how to prevent, evade or escape an unprovoked attack with the minimum damage possible. An example would be a real life scenario I read about from a smash and grab thief. He’d watch people, pick one that was not particularly paying attention, attack suddenly from behind, usually a strike to the back of the head or neck, (perhaps with a weapon, can’t remember) then as the person went down, kick them in the head several times until unmoving, rifle their pockets or take their packages and leave never checking or caring about how hurt his target was. This to me is a good example of a self defense scenario and it is indeed the opposite of fighting in boxing, MMA, or even street fighting (however you define that). Training for this would be very different. Obviously, maintaining an awareness of what and who is around you is key, as is choosing carefully where you are and when you go, but what physical training should be pursued? I can’t say as I have never been in such a situation, but I suspect that overall conditioning is a good start and also (don’t laugh) kata practice; not to learn blocking and fighting techniques per se, but to learn how to move in a balance manner without having to think about it. I understand that one would need more, such as the fighting skills you teach, but don’t think that is more relevant that the kata practice. How one develops the necessary instantaneous ability to deliver a potentially crippling blow without even thinking is not clear to me. Heavy bag work would be good, but actual sparring, I’m less clear about. When sparring, the mindset is probably different. I am not trying to imply you are wrong, and again I watch your videos with an appreciation of what you offer, I’m just offering the opinion that self defense training can be a goal different from MMA fighting and not all instructors offer bogus advice. Mine doesn’t, it is always one on one and he has never charged me a dime. Any thoughts you have are always welcome. Thanks for listening.
Sup couch, off topic question. I a have a bunch of bumps in both of my shins after a year of kickboxing, are these bumps normal? It doesn't hurt or anything and they'rent visible but I can feel it when I touch my shins.
I don't want to be "that guy", but the first hurdle is that most people who attend such classes and consume this material DO NOT want to put in any sort of time or effort to train consistantly. You bring up that a single seminar isnt going to teach you much of anything of value under stress, and they should be doing something more regularly and they look at you like you're crazy. So these guys try to put up things they can teach in a comfortable environment in a single session and that does NOT help whatsoever. It's a failure from both sides of the puzzle.
What if you develop a real self defense course, an “Avoidance Defense” system, if you will, that has a foundation in all those things mentioned in this video that are actually useful for avoiding being harmed: footwork, evasion, covering up, distance management, escape and run away. Maybe throw in some parkour and track and field training so that people can practice running away and putting obstacles between themselves and their pursuers.
No one teaches actual defense. If someone walks up and jabs their fingers into someone's eye there's not a whole lot of defense beyond being self aware and being aware of your environment. I have not seen a lot of what I would consider useful techniques anywhere. If you take your ring, middle, and index fingers and form a "spear tip" and come directly from your body in a jab motion and damage someone's eyeball it's "fight over" or really really close. Take that same hand position on either hand and fishhook someone and rip the lip and cheek if they are on top of you, or too close for an affective strike. Kick someone's knee out if you are on your back and they are standing close enough. people who want to run have never been in any kind of a real situation. I keep my banana bag about 3 feet out from a corner in my workout room. That's all the room you get in a real fight, or if you're trapped. I don't want the "run away" option to even cross my mind. Run away from some people and you just gave them your back. That's just me though.
"play it again sam", woody allen movie where he goes on a date, ends up at a biker bar, a guy grabs gets him from behind, and woody allen keeps trying and trying to elbow him in the solar plexus. People are laughing at him. His date takes off with a biker. Back to you vid, the attacker grabs your wrist, and just stands there. Attacked throws a punch, and just leaves it out there waiting for lightening to strike.
Learning any sort of self-defence in a happy safe environment of the sport centre or modern sport Dojo . Is always going to fail. No sport is self-defence, and the guy with the question is correct running is best if you can . Tim
The only self defense class that is worth ones time is Krav Maga, and its gota be by someone whos been military trained. The classes i took in Orlando was run by 2 ex military and a Jiu Jistu instructor. There was alot of knowing the law, how to use a gun, how to respond to intense circumstances like when getting jumped by multiple people and how to get out, how to strike, how not to get stabbed or cut if someone has a bladed weapon knowing when to run or defend, fluid movements, and how to defend yourself against someone who knows JiuJitsu since that is the most popular form of combat out there right now. Shaan Saar has been the best classes ive taken and ive taken some for about a year; twae kwon do, aikido, muai thai, mma and western boxing before them and felt like they combined the best of all those worlds in one class, and the practical mentality you need to survive. We did lots of sparring too which helps put this stuff into practice. But yea, most self defense classes are trash unfortunately.
if you can't be taught to fight then martial arts in general is a mugs game of false prophets learning and teaching nothing Bruce Lee said it best act like water and be fluid in your movements.. and board don't fight back, i'm not a violent person by I would love to these mac dojo wanna be's in an actual fight with a resisting opponent though I suspect you will know the outcome Once you start comparing various styles against themselves they are fine once you start to compare different styles you can see how useful and useless they are outside DOJO and their own styles fighting structure you can literally have 50+ black belts/red belts in multiple styles being a master of all yet be a master of none yet with no actual combat experience in the real world how effective will you be in a real fight with no rules to he applied to your action.. Personally if you can't be taught how to kill someone then there is no point learning self defense because you have no combat experience to gauge what you are being taught is functionally usable.. don't try and put what you learn in your tae-bo bo class into functional use against someone that know's martial arts and actually know's how to fight because you are likely to get your arse handed to you...
Today I started to teach my wife self defence. I have zero martial arts experience and been in zero fights. I have however seen black belt martial artists pinned on the floor and beaten to hell. I explained to her that martial arts was a sport, not self defense. I explained that the most likely floor surface would be concrete, and she does not want to be trying to wrestle around on concrete with the weight of a man on top of her. So I taught her to take a punch. To block a punch. The signs that a punch was coming. How to stand. How to move her feet. How to stay out of range. How to backhand someone. How to describe an attacker to police. How to use situational awareness. How to be a hard target. How to spot a peacock fighter. I made a padded floor then let her try and escape holds using whatever she could think of as a move. After just a few hours I'm quite confident that she could now ruin the plans of any would be rapist or Karen
There is a channel called Fight Science which I think you should check out and give your take on it or make a funny parody which is more enjoyable in my opinion 😅🤣😂
So, the first guy's solution is to just be a coward soyboy ... got it. Makes me wonder why he even bothered with this site. "Virtue signaler" no doubt.
Ramsey . The name is the problem . If your using self defence moves then your reacting to … which means your losing and on the way to getting beaten and on this street this is perilous . What any fight should be is you you more of you until threat is completely neutralised . Of course anyone teaching this outside of military is likely to be shut down but the subject of killing is discussed / dealt with then we are back to sports fighting however extreme . If you are on the street and are attacked by person people with a merciless mentality then you are screwed . Go into te training centres and ask what there kill move is and watch their eyes go up and down , they usually don’t know and have never thought about it . If you have about 1 second to react before someone stabs you mane to death and couldn’t care less , sprawling , rear naked chokes may not be a good an answer as striking the throat or neck with everything you have instantly without warning followed by smashing skull into walls or pavement and running away if you can . Realistically we are training for that one time when we screwed up and now we are in a very life threatening position . Will we freeze up , what will our body do , can we actually deal damage without fear or remorse … can we save our life by taking theirs . Hideous and horrible stuff but that’s your attacker in a nutshell - hideous and horrible with no remorse , doesn’t care and desperate to feed. Failing this stuff which is seldom taught anywhere for real then train in what real fighters train in or somthing that you will love doing because apart from that one time your training needs to be something you love so you keep training .
any self defense instructor that doesn't first and foremost teach how to not put yourself in a situation to be attacked, and to run the fuck away whenever possible, shouldn't have a job
Bruce lee used to say the best fighter is not a boxer, karate or judo man. The best fighter is someone who can adapt on any style . He kicks too good for a boxer , throws too good for a karate man, & punches too good for a judo man.
Here's a thought: Think like an ambush apex predator. The attack would be sudden and unexpected, with intent to do as much initial damage as possible to leave the prey in a severely weakened condition. I have yet to see a self-defense video that addresses such an attack. Ramsey's tests of various self-defense strategies should be required viewing before every class or session that advertises such strategies. Even a trained fighter can admit that a vicious and unexpected attack can leave them at a disadvantage. Btw, the most realistic "self-defense" video I've seen was by Bas Rutten, he had some advice for dealing with the specific situation of an unavoidable confrontation in a bar, and he was explicit about the use of almost anything as an available weapon. Good advice, but again, he was addressing a very specific situation in which getting dry-gulched from behind was not a part of the scenario.
That rarely happends because fighting and hunting are 2 very different things, usually when people fight it's clear they are gonna fight for a long time before they actualy do, or is somebody wants to ro you he usually doesn't want to kill you or hurt you, even criminals have a conciense, and in a situation were you are abushed there is nothing you can do, a guy can hit you from behind in the head with a rock or somwthing and it doesn't matter who you are, you are dead
The best way to win a fight is to not be there, not evasion, not fleeing but anticipation of bad situations and avoiding them so that they never arise. I live in the 6th most dangerous country in the world we are lead only by the likes of Venezuela and Afganistan yet I have only come close to a street fight once in my teens, this is not an accident. Criminal attacks are rare but harder to avoid but knowing where not to be is always an asset. I came close to being involved in an armed robbery once but had to leave to go to the restroom. still there was no way I would have tried any kind of move against five armed guys, so that's my reality. I have practiced martial arts my whole adult life and would only use them in a one on one situation against an unarmed opponent, but it's much better to just not be there.
Why self defense instructors never teach what to do if things have gone very south, Cover your head, your body can take a lot of abuse, Your head not so much.
You can't learn self defence without actually spending at least a few months at a good dojo and learn the basics of actual combat sports. A few videos of those instructors wouldn't help you even if they were legit. You need to train for a decent amount of time and have actual fights to learn something
you can tell most of the self defense people are scammers because if you look at videos of hate crimes or assaults the attacker will usually use an overwhelming amount of strikes or a weapon and no one "trick" will help you with that. the scammers for sure know that and don't care lmfao. as someone at risk, only things i feel like that help are combat skills, situation awareness, and trying your best to not be alone and vulnerable at the wrong time
I think the wrist grab is to pull you to their windowless van. Hard to tell though because they don't really show that part in the self defense videos. That or it comes from aikido or something which comes from trying to control a limb that has a weapon which was a bigger problem in feudal japan than modern day first world.
There is another issue that rarely gets discussed - There are good self-defence instructors who can teach, and would like to teach, soft skills (examples: risk assessment planning; communications skills; basic personal first aid; etc etc etc..) BUT the vast majority of people who want to learn self defence don't want to learn that - they want the magic 'Five-Point-Palm Exploding-Heart-Technique' and what's worse, they want it in a couple of easy lessons where they won't even have to break a sweat.
And making people fly with wrist grips.
this comment! totally agree. The reason these charlatans exist is because of supply and demand, demand dictactes the supply. If you teach women "real" self defense they will just leave and get bored. They don't really come to learn how to defend themselves, they come for entertainment value. Its easier to teach them what they want to hear, they get to throw a few punches on man wearing padding and feel good about themselves, and instructor doesn't go broke for not having any customers.
@@dusk6159 except when it happens - I have been sent reeling by people using little force but with them getting the angle exactly right and having both my balance disrupted and my ability to restore my balance hindered by the force and direction of the force applied... But, I'd also say, that's not 'self-defence' that's high level 'martial arts' skills. Also in those cases, add in some luck and often some degree of compliance... Person 'A' does the attack and then person 'A' allows person 'B' the time to do the defence :)
You are not wrong. I am trying to convince my friend to at least workout for health reasons and their response is always that their are lazy or have no time. I ask what they do and they tell me they do nothing each day…..😮
@@TheLuconic We were talking about that both yesterday and today at in-person tai chi sessions that I run - the problem seems to be that post pandemic, people are either lazy, still worried (about catching covid), or simply unaware of how important exercise is. Now, in fairness, being fit is not a defence against covid, but it is a defence against a lot of things that reduce either or both of the length or the quality of life that we have.
The problem is most self defence instructors have never been in a fight
As a medic I see a lot of people who have been choked by their spouse. It happens all the time but injuries are generally superficial. It does however make the victim feel powerless. This explains why power fantasy is an easy sell
It's extreamly more difficult to beat someone who is defensive that someone that is agressive. The main reason many sports penalize pasivity is because if people played it safe, many combats will be incrediblely boring, but thats the idea of self defense, avoid harm.
yes, in sports when a counter-fighter fights a counter-fighter, is boring AF. because both of them are wating for the other to make and action to counter.
I practice self-defense 2-3 times a week. They call it a 5k run
Who, precisely, will chase you 5km? You planning to take me on?
100m is more than enough, No one will chase you further than that.
same here. I practice (as many of us) many martial arts/combat sports and run on a weekly basis. When I speak about martial arts to people and they mention how good it must be for self-defense and which techniques I would use to overpower any random attackers out in the street, I usually answer that I don't do that for fighting in the street and that in such situation, negotiation and/or run is always the preferable option. Only if I'm cornered I'd answer with fighting, but I don't think I would feel comfortable in a street fight even with years of sparring in different sports, other guy might also know some techniques, have a weapon, and so on and so on... RUN :)
As a ex- self-defense instructor I can answer this question... It's because self-defense as is commonly thought of and taught is a marketing strategy designed to facilitate making people easily overwhelmed by fear feel invincible (and invincible people don't need to defend). The really sad thing is that we have become such a fear based society that there are actually a lot of people out there that want these classes in order to help them feel less afraid... but a lot of the times it just promotes reckless behavior (which we are also into, so... win, win, win?). :(
And yeah, we are insanely outnumbered by the "self-defense" industry "instructors". :(
And that would be why autistic people show up in these classes only to find an utter refusal to respect boundaries greeting them. Because that's what happens when you get a bunch of extroverts in a room and get them to feel like they can do no wrong. They get up in autistic people's face all day and won't leave them alone. And autistic people, already having difficulty with neurotypical social patterns, get overwhelmed and don't come back.
If people want to feel less afraid they need to develop their self esteem and self reliance.The more sure you feel of yourself, the less fear you feel from everything else.
Not that one can be fearless, but you can minimize the fear you feel or learn to overcome it temporarily if you're in a bind.
@@DragonBee It's not usually that easy, people are complex machines and when we break it's usually a major pain in the butt to get that machine working again... especially without breaking anything else in the process.
@Nuetral768
Excuses. It needs to be done BECAUSE its hard. Everything starts with the self so people like you are the problem. Youre enabling weak people to find strength outside of themselves via GARBAGE self defense courses because its "easy"
Its EAZY to look to something else for strength. We need to teach people how to look within no matter how hard it may be
Yep, when you watch most of self defense videos and then you watch real fight(cctv footage), the one doesn't look like the other
Exactly!🌎
Really liking your last videos
Better audio, faster videos, answering a lot of questions
Thanks for the effort, Ramsey
I think a lot of self defence courses are often just adverts for joining whatever Martial Arts club is running them. Wrist grabs and throat grabs are the easiest to teach since there's no blocking punches or evasive movements required. The attacker is standing still and their hands are in a static position just waiting for you to apply whatever technique they decide to show you. For someone that has no idea about striking or grappling they can seem impressive and easy to pull off. The martial arts equivalent of a gateway drug.
The scene that came to mind when I read your post is the Rex Kwon Do guy from "Napolean Dynamite"..."Grab my wrist. Other hand....MY other hand" lol
Serisously though, you're right, simplistic lessons like that run the danger of giving a false sense of security where the practitioner's confidence exceeds their ability.
That said, I used to be one of them, and I get what instructors are trying to do there, hoping to rope in students without going "too deep" right away. Give them a taste, hope they'll come back and sign an agreement, where the real instruction will begin and they'll be provided with a better TMA education, assuming this is not a McDojo.
@@daxbradley4346 Yeah, same with displays and demo's. The idea is to show something flashy and eye catching, not necessarily realistic or practical. It's just marketing.
In my expirience, wrist grab escape can be very helpful. A copule of times my hand was grabed by a random guys who was drunk or just angry. They wanted to mess with me and i was able to get away without raising level of violence. Obviosly, no grab escape would help if they were not just angry and agressive but determined from the start to punch or choke me.
Are you a woman?
Because that's hard work and actually painful. Also, reality would destroy most people's businesses in the industry.
The first grading I did at a RBSD school was Pre-Fight tactics. We analysed CCTV footage of a dozen genuine self-defence scenarios and looked at the behaviour of the attackers in the lead up to the attack, and then the method of attack. We focused on avoidance drills and distance management. We learned:
Threat Identification,
Threat Assessment,
Avoidance,
Distance Management,
De-escalation techniques,
Pre-Fight Interview,
Pre-Attack Indicators (verbal and body language cues),
Understanding a violent situation,
Disengagement and Escape,
Understanding adrenal stress response,
State laws of self-defence and assault.
In 2 years of Jiu Jitsu, 18 months of Boxing none of the classes I’ve attended have mentioned any of those things at all.
You should mention it. They may be open to your insights? Good luck.
@@Steve-ul8qb When I was a 2 stripe Jiu Jitsu white belt the instructor invited me to teach the breakfalls I’d learned in the evil bullshido style they call Krav Maga 😉. My BJJ Black Belt instructor had seen me doing them in Jiu Jitsu takedown training. It was a humbling but also thrilling experience being a low ranked Jiu Jitsu white belt teaching a class of BJJ Black, Brown, Purple and Blue belts for about 45 minutes. They were very open and attentive, and the student that picked them up best was a purple belt who was a police swat team member. When the class was over I had a guy who was a Judoka come over to me and tell me that the breakfalls I taught them were better and more detailed than the ones he’d learned in his Judo classes. It was a great experience.
I'm not sure how far you're going to get in BJJ/boxing if you need threat ID training (just for some free help - it's not the ref), or you're already thinking of escape...
@@celluskh6009 What are the cues that the victim of this attack missed and what was the victims biggest mistake? Enjoy: ruclips.net/video/bUYDvesAUd4/видео.html
@@wattlebough And then everyone clapped
The secret formula off realistic SD :D :
95% of SD can be learned under a minute - don't be stupid with stupid people in stupid places
2% can be learned in a day - how to use a pepper spray
2% can't be changed or learned - size and other genetic predispositions.
1% of actual hand to hand fighting skill, fitness and experience takes years to lifetime.
Of course all that from the perspective of an average civilian adult in a pacified society. A child that is bullied, some adult environments and some jobs would make training worth it, but even than it is debatable wether that is self-defense or if that specific social environment requires fighting skills to socially advance, earn etc.
Because, IMHO, for most people in most developed countries hand-to-hand combat is not necessarily that useful for self defense while at the same time requiring a lot of time and effort, SD businesses are bound to operate in a fantasy world of non-functional responses to non realistic threats.
I know many people that train. I know many more that do not train. I have not noticed a significant difference in SD needs between them. Those that train and do use their skills out of the gym do that intentionally - either working the doors or working their egos- not because they get randomly attacked on the streets.
Incredible comment lol
People who try to seize your wrists or any part of your arm are transitory in procedural motion. Their ultimate aim in seizing your wrist is to subsequently pull your body closer to them in order to stabilize your body to enhance the effectiveness of their intended strikes and/or grappling movements they're planning to execute against you.
No one just walks up to someone and just grabs their wrist. Seizing is a preliminary intermediary action necessary to effect their intended primary objectives!!!
Martial arts and self defence are seen as the same thing. It couldn’t be further from the truth.
Martial arts teach you how to fight.
It doesn’t teach you self defence.
It is assumed that if you can fight you can defend yourself.
True until you factor in size, strength and aggression.
Martial arts tournaments proved that martial arts do not work for self defence by their need to have different weight divisions.
More telling is that they don’t allow women to compete against men.
A fight requires 2 willing parties.
In self defence, you are not a willing party. You are not there by choice.
This necessitates a different approach to be effective.
Because the fundamental differences between fighting and self defence are not recognised, you ended up with the blind teaching the blind.
Fighting is hard but paradoxically, self defence is easy if you can get away from the mentality of fighting.
The trinity of self-defense: combat (warrior), running away (thief), and diplomacy (mage).
The only time that the two handed choke was apllied to me in real life, was when I was a teenager by a much bigger and agressive older guy. I remember being taught the drills in Karate class about breaking the two handed choke holds and counter attacking, however, I really didn't want to fight this guy, being a skinny teenager. So I instinctively kept walking back and he was unable to keep his grip. The choke wasn't hurting me at all despite his anger and larger size. Just stepping back seemed to stop it. Everytime he went fro my neck after this I just stepped back. This continued until the situaltion was resolved. (He thought that a group of us were part of a gang that had been behaving bad in that neighborhood, but I had nothing to so with them, once he was informed of this by my friends who were present, he talked friendly to us for a time, explaing all the bad tings that this gang had been doing).
One time i challenged someone to submission wresstling. It was playtime for me.
He was obviously going for the rape choke. And I was like okay let it be, seems fun. And it was basically free hand given to me. A static arm is your best friend.
Took the hand that was was the top of the other with no effort. And controlled his armb by three fingers. The other hand just slipped while i was moving my head. And i gain controll over his whole upper body in no time.
I think it is an insult to call it a choke. I would barely call it a frame. It is an insult to grappling.
Mission failed successfully LMAO
Well summed up Ramsey 😁👍 there are no miracle solutions, only hard work 💪
I've started to think- if you want to learn real self-defence, you should study bodyguards.
Self-defence isn't a profession- nobody is going to pay you to walk through a bad neighbourhood to test out your Krav Maga on the first guy to mug you. Teaching it is a profession, and some jobs like policing have it as an aspect of their profession.
Bodyguards, though, are the closest thing to self-defence as a profession, since they are at least defending others if not themselves.
What professional bodyguards learn is- deescalation, observation, communication, teamwork, risk assessment, driving, cyber-security etc Yes, they learn how to fight and use weapons "as well", but those are only small (and usually avoidable) part of their occupation.
They also make you think about things like your routine, your lifestyle, your job, your home, your neighbourhood, the company you keep- in other words, what kind of threats you are actually likely to actually encounter, what you can do to prevent that encounter from happening in the first place, and how to mitigate it if it does.
Makes me wonder- imagine if you were hired to be your own bodyguard: what advice or rules would one say to oneself? 🤔
Most bodyguards already know how to fight. They come from a fighting background.
Krav maga? Lmfaooo00!
First you have to tuck your curls in
Avoid, deny, defend is the montra my employer uses for work place violence. I guess in a non work place perspective it would be avoided dangerous areas. Avoid becoming too intoxicated to protect yourself. If it's an high crime area or punch palace bar don't go there. Deny get good locks on your doors and or a security system. Park in high traffic areas of an establishment. Defend yourself. You don't need to win. You need to break the contact and survive. As far as techniques, there are no magic techniques. There are techniques that simply don't work and some that do but not if you don't train those techniques.
For a moment I thought that was their mantra for dealing with HR claims. Avoid dealing with the claim, if that fails deny the claim, if that fails defend against it...
You sound terrified
Hey coach, I’ve been training in boxing for a bit in my highschool boxing club, and there are some chances that I’ll be able to get into a tournament sometime if the other schools are wanting agree to a tournament. When that happens, I want to get some advice for what I should expect, seeing as you have a lot of experience. Thanks, coach.
Self defense ala Cobra Kai.
Just strike first, strike fast,
(MY MODIFICATION) then run for your life.
For me what comes first is communication then fight. I’m a 240 pound muscular 5’4 wrestler, I can’t out run many people being short and massive. But I certainly will talk my way out and defend before even thinking of getting physical cause what if they have a weapon.
Jesus Christ! 240 pounds at 5'4 man thats crazy Im 5'9 and I weigh 189lbs.
@@gersonencarnacion3744 I’m a little lighter now at 228 pounds
@@gersonencarnacion3744 but yeah I’ve always had a bulky frame for my height. My calves are 17 inches in diameter. Which should give context for exactly how bulky I am
He who lives by the sword better be able to kick some serious ass.
2:16 The real problems...yup like Israel Adesanya's friend, being killed by a suckerpunch from behind...where's the self defense technique for that?!?
Because they themselves don't know how to fight, or maybe they're lazy, or maybe they don't care and just want to make a quick buck
Funny in military hand to hand instructor tried to put myself in none escape holds after the third throw of the instructor and getting him to breath again ; he said meet your news sensei and pointed to me the trainee !...
Well, if you are attacked by a streetfighter:
If he is: Stronger than you and a better fighter --> run (most of the times, otherwise there would most likely be no attack in the first place...)
If he is: weaker than you and a worse fighter --> no problem at all
If he is slightly Stronger than you and a worse fighter --> some techniques may have a benefit.
I agree with Ramsey, if you really want to be prepared for a street fight, you need to either perform kind of UFC cage fighting for practice or go street fighting...
I did some martial arts when I was younger. As a warm-up for Kung Fu, we often did "free" grappling.
When I did the grappling with the trainer, he had no chance against me. His skill was way above mine, but the gap between my 120 kg vs his 70 kg could not be cover by skill (at least at a non professional fighter level). When I did Kickboxing with a 80 kg former Russian professional Kickboxer, he wiped the floor with me without sweating, despite my strength and reach advantage - but then again the ring rules don't apply on the street....
I really liked your thumbnail 😂
Bullshido is my favorite form of martial arts
Judo is probably one of the most effective in street fights . Being that everyone's wearing clothing you can choke them and toss them around with their own clothing.
Just grabbing somebody from their collar. You can choke the crap out of them.
Problem is no weight classes on the street
I won't say it is not effective, it very much can be. But oddly judo is actually the only martial art that was originally intended for practice/sport. Not actual combat
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 I like Krav Maga even though its bashed everywhere these days
@@markusmaier2277 you don't need one . This is a fighting style that uses leverage and angles . And it's the powerhouse of the martial arts. You have to be extremely strong with tremendous hand grip to compete in this
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Yes, very true. Like wrestling. Wrestling was the way they would train for submission matches..
Because if you train submissions, you might get hurt.
So by training wrestling you can train to position yourself in these submissions but not really do them
“Whatever skillset you intend to use in real life, you have to get good at.” That pretty much sums it up💯
I’ve tried to be as honest as I can when I have been given the honor to ”instruct” in self defense. But it is hard to get people to pay attention to instructions like ”tie your shoes”, ”don’t drink to much alcohol or preferably none at all” and my favorite ”work out regularly and eat healthy”. All of these things will keep a lot of people safer than the alternative.
Most people want a sense of empowerment and confidence, and they want you to provide it in one or maybe five lessons. So I dont instruct anymore, unless I can explain all those concepts first. Then I hope that they do take martial arts classes, work out and generally try to be healthy.
I feel that even good fighting dosent fully adress self defense. One also has to learn how to use these skills and calculate risk assestments in diferent situations.
Well, you’re 100% correct. It doesn’t!
Full contact fight for your life is a very draining scenario. I've done 3 minute upstairs sprints that's less exhausting than 1 minute hard contact on a heavy bag. Maybe my technique and breath rhythm needs improvement. But I'm a very athletic person and I've been humbled. To hear all these mcdojos promising a 1 touch 0 touch knockout or a skinny person talking big it's literally concerning.
Just a personal note for the "too big to strike" is a complete myth. And then there is strength. A person's can have such ridiculous grip strength their fingers and hands are literally an extra set of teeth and jaws.
Naaah.. you just overcommit (agree on all the train and get in shape part of course, I am referring to why you tire out). 10 moderate swings are better than 2 "I will take you head off" swings. I bet you start slow pow, pow, pow and then "explode" into "pow-pow-pow-step-lowkick-pow-pow-endless combo" as adrenalin kicks in. Keep your rythm and cool. You need to strike faster than your opponent, not faster than the speed of light. Also as with guns "shot placement" aka accuracy matters A LOT. You gain a big pain in the knuckles if you swing for the jaw and actually strike the forehead.
I should think that anyone who has grappled (especially in a gi) realizes the importance of defending wrist, sleeve and collar grabs. Even if you want to run away, you need to break any holds the opponent has on you first.
Also, I think there is a tendency to criticize self-defense instructors for not demonstrating the techniques with a resisting opponent, but how many of the bjj or wrestling technique videos are done with active resistance? The vast majority are obviously done with cooperative assistants to enable the instructor to explain while he is doing the technique.
I don't dispute that many of them (self-defense videos) are painfully inadequate in conveying how much power and explosiveness you require, but I do think that most videos ridiculing self-defense or aikido or whatever other tma are strangely doing the exact same mistake (ie. thinking that inexpertly copying the movement and tempo of the instructor prooves anything). If you try doing that with a Gordon Ryan instructional it will fail just as miserably as when you take some tma technique out of context and expect it to work without having trained it more than a few times, and without applying it with power and intent.
Somewhere out there, criminals are watching youtube "other offense" compilations, teaching them to grab wrists and laugh maniacally. They're getting stronger every day. Why don't you want people to be safe from them?
I was in the serbian military we where always told never put yourself in a situation u don't want to be in and always walk away from trouble just get up and leave and go to the next bar as an example
pretty much the don't go to stupid places and do stupid things with stupid people defense. Sometimes it doesn't work though.
The Danger! Thank you for your unrelenting Work Ethic (and commitment to being Complete). I am reminded of a quote: "If you want to get any good at fighting, it is a slow, tedious, painful process. And, a lot of it is joyless sacrifice ... Blood, sweat, & tears. Those are real things that go into it." - Ramsey Dewey 16 February 2020. The Nature of Fighting is the Nature of Life. Thank you for the Lesson(s). Pure Love & Respect.
Two Tigers
Thank god I am not alone. I appreciate this.
The Danger! Thank you for being a Champion for "The Truth." The ultimate standard of Martial Arts is "The Truth." Thank you for the Lesson(s). Pure Love & Respect.
Two Tigers
Those 'self-defence' mcdojos make it worse by giving people a false sense of security by teaching hollywood-style magic moves you see in movies.
I usually identify 2 types of attackers: the coward who prey on the weak & the dumdums who think they're tough.
Learn how to identify these types of people & you have a better chance of removing yourself from sticky situations.
On the physical part, you gotta 'get out there & train' from genuine coaches like Ramsey.
Thank you for answering my comment!
There's nothing called self defense . u either can fight or u can. Learn to strike and to grapple. It takes time but it is what need to defend yourself.
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That's a very noncommittal knee.
Finally I found a video showing a woman defending herself successfully in a real-life combat situation:
ruclips.net/user/shortsD-ww2qYPX5M
You are defenetly right I'm training muyai thai because i want to learn self defense technics and i want to enjoy sparing it's highly effective in real life for my experience, but the problem in the streets is the fear, even if you have effective skills you will lose if you are afraid this is why i also read self defense books that teach how to manage your emotions in a bad situation then i can say that a combat sport with some knowledge of psychology in a street fight are the best self defense system!
When you're in the street fight situation, you need to start thinking what you're going to do
Need to look for openings
Maybe you can kick a knee or you can punch at the liver.
Fear will make you stop thinking.
Don't stop thinking.
The big fear to overcome is fear of really fighting because if you hit hard then they will really mess you up. Sparring hard might help.
@@jasonsanders8091 i agree
Footwork, blocking, escapes, etc. is for combat sport. Self-defense is about disabling attackers in 1-3 moves then run.
You can make big money teaching martial arts by giving your affluent students easy soft training while making them think they are becoming skillful hard bodied fighters. Big money is also made by running a child daycare center masquerading as a martial arts school. These are two more reasons why so many black belts get demolished in a real situation.
Self-defense classes be like:
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You forgot the skillset which requires that don't provoke a weary individual in the first place.
Power fantasy enabler: genius description of every modern dojo I've entered. When I ask the operators they all say the samething: "insurance and liability".
I'm a 25th dan in ameridoto. I'm so proficient,. I only use my gun. 😂🤣🤣🤣
Whenever, I'm attacked, I have the attacker roll a D20. I say to bad guy, the roll isn't high enough to get past my AC.
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I like those female Jujitsu teachers.... si maestra...si :)
Very good question for real fights are not defensive; but attacking being taught !...
Geoff Thompson writes a lot about self defence and also about a lot of other things - worth checking out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Thompson_(writer)
I think at 1:00 where you make the distinction between you being an MMA coach versus self defence coach it's important to state that martial arts IS self defence. Because if it's not, then what is it? And if it isn't then why is it taught in armies around the world in hand-to-hand combat? Why do they teach Martial arts to the police? MMA in the U.S, army, TKD in Korean/Vietnam war etc.
Therefore people may think your this 'self defence' coach title when you actually teach MMA - which can be used for self defence. Big difference, as your describing these guys who describe themselves as 'self defence coaches', charlatans you call them; techniques that require advanced striking and grappling skill to do some of their moves if even plausible at all.
Did I get that right?
Self defence/tma starts slow ends up with sparring. Should encourage students to try other things. Mainly we developing a coordination which is balance with principles. Yes must be learning to out manoeuvre opponent, it's all in the feet essentially. There's good and bad in all places you can train in. Best is showing the good, what you do. So easy to criticise others. I hate classes where a coach constantly rubbished others instead of showing what he thinks works.
Easy way to know is watch how the more advanced train, there abilities, either they can do it or not.
Easy to check what gyms put out better comp fighters. Has yr gym got a ring in it, do the students spar. What is the goal though- fitness, coordination, self defence, sports.
Its because sports sell better which shouldn't be what they are teaching but there is at least a few people who really know what they are doing
One of them is Master at Arms James keeting,Chris Clugston,Good old Judo Gene La bell and a few others. Military systems are good too as they were designed for real world combat so they work.
It strikes me as borderline criminally reckless to teach normal people these combat-based self-defense crash courses. Especially for women, for whom these seem to be most heavily marketed. I’ve met many women in and out of martial arts contexts who truly believe they’re the kind of exceptional badasses who are above danger, and that’s an extremely risky mindset, especially when it precludes caution and sense. A 120lb woman could train for 20 years and win a belt in UFC, but against all but the weakest and clumsiest men she better get lucky early on and run, because the margin for error is nonexistent. Meaningful self-defense in any reliable sense means mindfully staying out of danger and/or carrying a firearm with which you regularly practice, full stop.
In general, you’re correct but have you checked out Idan Abolnik and his Kalah System? I would give it a look if I were you and check out his videos.
I used to have two women train where I train, they were both black belts, talking to eachother wondering why our sifu never did a womans self defence class.
I was a green belt at the time, and just said - two reasons, firstly, your normal training should be sufficient. Secondly, if your Male teacher can confidently teach an anti rape class, i would be questioning where he got his knowledge of rape scenarios from
Thank you for the always interesting, thought provoking and yes entertaining commentary on self defense. The general dialog on this subject seems to run the gamut of opinions. While I recognize and value your expertise in this area (or I wouldn’t be writing) , I would like to offer some, let’s say nuance to what you say. In another video, you said that self defense is a legal term rather than a thing, then went on to say you teach the opposite; but the opposite of what, a legal concept or a thing? The opposite of a legal concept is another legal concept. Perhaps we can, for the moment, define them as more than legal terms. Self defense to me is learning how to prevent, evade or escape an unprovoked attack with the minimum damage possible. An example would be a real life scenario I read about from a smash and grab thief. He’d watch people, pick one that was not particularly paying attention, attack suddenly from behind, usually a strike to the back of the head or neck, (perhaps with a weapon, can’t remember) then as the person went down, kick them in the head several times until unmoving, rifle their pockets or take their packages and leave never checking or caring about how hurt his target was. This to me is a good example of a self defense scenario and it is indeed the opposite of fighting in boxing, MMA, or even street fighting (however you define that). Training for this would be very different. Obviously, maintaining an awareness of what and who is around you is key, as is choosing carefully where you are and when you go, but what physical training should be pursued? I can’t say as I have never been in such a situation, but I suspect that overall conditioning is a good start and also (don’t laugh) kata practice; not to learn blocking and fighting techniques per se, but to learn how to move in a balance manner without having to think about it. I understand that one would need more, such as the fighting skills you teach, but don’t think that is more relevant that the kata practice. How one develops the necessary instantaneous ability to deliver a potentially crippling blow without even thinking is not clear to me. Heavy bag work would be good, but actual sparring, I’m less clear about. When sparring, the mindset is probably different. I am not trying to imply you are wrong, and again I watch your videos with an appreciation of what you offer, I’m just offering the opinion that self defense training can be a goal different from MMA fighting and not all instructors offer bogus advice. Mine doesn’t, it is always one on one and he has never charged me a dime. Any thoughts you have are always welcome. Thanks for listening.
Sup couch, off topic question. I a have a bunch of bumps in both of my shins after a year of kickboxing, are these bumps normal? It doesn't hurt or anything and they'rent visible but I can feel it when I touch my shins.
I don't want to be "that guy", but the first hurdle is that most people who attend such classes and consume this material DO NOT want to put in any sort of time or effort to train consistantly. You bring up that a single seminar isnt going to teach you much of anything of value under stress, and they should be doing something more regularly and they look at you like you're crazy. So these guys try to put up things they can teach in a comfortable environment in a single session and that does NOT help whatsoever. It's a failure from both sides of the puzzle.
What if you develop a real self defense course, an “Avoidance Defense” system, if you will, that has a foundation in all those things mentioned in this video that are actually useful for avoiding being harmed: footwork, evasion, covering up, distance management, escape and run away. Maybe throw in some parkour and track and field training so that people can practice running away and putting obstacles between themselves and their pursuers.
What about krav magah? Thought about sending my kids there. It seemed sorta legit.
No one teaches actual defense. If someone walks up and jabs their fingers into someone's eye there's not a whole lot of defense beyond being self aware and being aware of your environment. I have not seen a lot of what I would consider useful techniques anywhere. If you take your ring, middle, and index fingers and form a "spear tip" and come directly from your body in a jab motion and damage someone's eyeball it's "fight over" or really really close. Take that same hand position on either hand and fishhook someone and rip the lip and cheek if they are on top of you, or too close for an affective strike. Kick someone's knee out if you are on your back and they are standing close enough. people who want to run have never been in any kind of a real situation. I keep my banana bag about 3 feet out from a corner in my workout room. That's all the room you get in a real fight, or if you're trapped. I don't want the "run away" option to even cross my mind. Run away from some people and you just gave them your back. That's just me though.
"play it again sam", woody allen movie where he goes on a date, ends up at a biker bar, a guy grabs gets him from behind, and woody allen keeps trying and trying to elbow him in the solar plexus. People are laughing at him. His date takes off with a biker.
Back to you vid, the attacker grabs your wrist, and just stands there. Attacked throws a punch, and just leaves it out there waiting for lightening to strike.
Learning any sort of self-defence in a happy safe environment of the sport centre or modern sport Dojo . Is always going to fail. No sport is self-defence, and the guy with the question is correct running is best if you can .
Tim
The only self defense class that is worth ones time is Krav Maga, and its gota be by someone whos been military trained. The classes i took in Orlando was run by 2 ex military and a Jiu Jistu instructor. There was alot of knowing the law, how to use a gun, how to respond to intense circumstances like when getting jumped by multiple people and how to get out, how to strike, how not to get stabbed or cut if someone has a bladed weapon knowing when to run or defend, fluid movements, and how to defend yourself against someone who knows JiuJitsu since that is the most popular form of combat out there right now. Shaan Saar has been the best classes ive taken and ive taken some for about a year; twae kwon do, aikido, muai thai, mma and western boxing before them and felt like they combined the best of all those worlds in one class, and the practical mentality you need to survive. We did lots of sparring too which helps put this stuff into practice. But yea, most self defense classes are trash unfortunately.
if you can't be taught to fight then martial arts in general is a mugs game of false prophets learning and teaching nothing Bruce Lee said it best act like water and be fluid in your movements.. and board don't fight back, i'm not a violent person by I would love to these mac dojo wanna be's in an actual fight with a resisting opponent though I suspect you will know the outcome
Once you start comparing various styles against themselves they are fine once you start to compare different styles you can see how useful and useless they are outside DOJO and their own styles fighting structure
you can literally have 50+ black belts/red belts in multiple styles being a master of all yet be a master of none yet with no actual combat experience in the real world how effective will you be in a real fight with no rules to he applied to your action..
Personally if you can't be taught how to kill someone then there is no point learning self defense because you have no combat experience to gauge what you are being taught is functionally usable..
don't try and put what you learn in your tae-bo bo class into functional use against someone that know's martial arts and actually know's how to fight because you are likely to get your arse handed to you...
Nowadays with Airsoft games, we can say it's practitioners can or are ready to fight Wars like real Soldiers.
Today I started to teach my wife self defence. I have zero martial arts experience and been in zero fights. I have however seen black belt martial artists pinned on the floor and beaten to hell. I explained to her that martial arts was a sport, not self defense. I explained that the most likely floor surface would be concrete, and she does not want to be trying to wrestle around on concrete with the weight of a man on top of her. So I taught her to take a punch. To block a punch. The signs that a punch was coming. How to stand. How to move her feet. How to stay out of range. How to backhand someone. How to describe an attacker to police. How to use situational awareness. How to be a hard target. How to spot a peacock fighter. I made a padded floor then let her try and escape holds using whatever she could think of as a move. After just a few hours I'm quite confident that she could now ruin the plans of any would be rapist or Karen
There is a channel called Fight Science which I think you should check out and give your take on it or make a funny parody which is more enjoyable in my opinion 😅🤣😂
So, the first guy's solution is to just be a coward soyboy ... got it. Makes me wonder why he even bothered with this site. "Virtue signaler" no doubt.
Ramsey . The name is the problem . If your using self defence moves then your reacting to … which means your losing and on the way to getting beaten and on this street this is perilous . What any fight should be is you you more of you until threat is completely neutralised . Of course anyone teaching this outside of military is likely to be shut down but the subject of killing is discussed / dealt with then we are back to sports fighting however extreme . If you are on the street and are attacked by person people with a merciless mentality then you are screwed . Go into te training centres and ask what there kill move is and watch their eyes go up and down , they usually don’t know and have never thought about it . If you have about 1 second to react before someone stabs you mane to death and couldn’t care less , sprawling , rear naked chokes may not be a good an answer as striking the throat or neck with everything you have instantly without warning followed by smashing skull into walls or pavement and running away if you can . Realistically we are training for that one time when we screwed up and now we are in a very life threatening position . Will we freeze up , what will our body do , can we actually deal damage without fear or remorse … can we save our life by taking theirs . Hideous and horrible stuff but that’s your attacker in a nutshell - hideous and horrible with no remorse , doesn’t care and desperate to feed. Failing this stuff which is seldom taught anywhere for real then train in what real fighters train in or somthing that you will love doing because apart from that one time your training needs to be something you love so you keep training .
any self defense instructor that doesn't first and foremost teach how to not put yourself in a situation to be attacked, and to run the fuck away whenever possible, shouldn't have a job
Bruce lee used to say the best fighter is not a boxer, karate or judo man. The best fighter is someone who can adapt on any style . He kicks too good for a boxer , throws too good for a karate man, & punches too good for a judo man.
This guy should be in advertising with that kinda voice.
Or narrating audio books or something
Here's a thought: Think like an ambush apex predator. The attack would be sudden and unexpected, with intent to do as much initial damage as possible to leave the prey in a severely weakened condition. I have yet to see a self-defense video that addresses such an attack. Ramsey's tests of various self-defense strategies should be required viewing before every class or session that advertises such strategies. Even a trained fighter can admit that a vicious and unexpected attack can leave them at a disadvantage. Btw, the most realistic "self-defense" video I've seen was by Bas Rutten, he had some advice for dealing with the specific situation of an unavoidable confrontation in a bar, and he was explicit about the use of almost anything as an available weapon. Good advice, but again, he was addressing a very specific situation in which getting dry-gulched from behind was not a part of the scenario.
That rarely happends because fighting and hunting are 2 very different things, usually when people fight it's clear they are gonna fight for a long time before they actualy do, or is somebody wants to ro you he usually doesn't want to kill you or hurt you, even criminals have a conciense, and in a situation were you are abushed there is nothing you can do, a guy can hit you from behind in the head with a rock or somwthing and it doesn't matter who you are, you are dead
Ramsey should voice movies and books, I think. This voice is gold
Most rapes cases, the victim knows the attacker somewhat personally. Let's start with that.
The best way to win a fight is to not be there, not evasion, not fleeing but anticipation of bad situations and avoiding them so that they never arise. I live in the 6th most dangerous country in the world we are lead only by the likes of Venezuela and Afganistan yet I have only come close to a street fight once in my teens, this is not an accident. Criminal attacks are rare but harder to avoid but knowing where not to be is always an asset. I came close to being involved in an armed robbery once but had to leave to go to the restroom. still there was no way I would have tried any kind of move against five armed guys, so that's my reality. I have practiced martial arts my whole adult life and would only use them in a one on one situation against an unarmed opponent, but it's much better to just not be there.
I've got to know, what kind of accent is this? Your voice really sounds cool to me.
Why self defense instructors never teach what to do if things have gone very south, Cover your head, your body can take a lot of abuse, Your head not so much.
You can't learn self defence without actually spending at least a few months at a good dojo and learn the basics of actual combat sports. A few videos of those instructors wouldn't help you even if they were legit. You need to train for a decent amount of time and have actual fights to learn something
you can tell most of the self defense people are scammers because if you look at videos of hate crimes or assaults the attacker will usually use an overwhelming amount of strikes or a weapon and no one "trick" will help you with that. the scammers for sure know that and don't care lmfao. as someone at risk, only things i feel like that help are combat skills, situation awareness, and trying your best to not be alone and vulnerable at the wrong time
In Living Color handled this perfectly with Jim Carrey in the 1990s.
Juxtaposition of violence is an interesting thing, based on the questions I see you address on here man
"When in doubt, aim for the groin"
- TMA founders
I agree 100%
I always got away from textbook moves.
The thumbnail has me ROLLING! 😂😂😂😂😂
I think the wrist grab is to pull you to their windowless van. Hard to tell though because they don't really show that part in the self defense videos.
That or it comes from aikido or something which comes from trying to control a limb that has a weapon which was a bigger problem in feudal japan than modern day first world.
In your Opinion what is the best martial art for bending back cat ears?
Finally! An honest human. ❤
Comedy is the only no touch martial art and even that is likely fail you if you don't train it.
"Everything these weirdos do is weird" ha ha :)