When you said "the more you use this fabric the more the x ply is going to show" Is that a bad thing or a good thing? Does it mean the durability declines overtime? Or that's just part of how the fabric patinas?
Nicholas, as you know on the outer surface it’s the same but inside the VX21 has an added layer of 50D poly taffeta so understandably it is more abrasion resistant.
Lloyd, unfortunately we do and do not have much experience with Dyneema. And what do mean by that? We have been using Dyneema for ballistic / body armor related projects in our production studio for more than 10 years but we have never used Dyneema for packs, bags, etc. The material we’ve used for armor has lasted a long time. The fabric samples we have currently that are meant for bags appear to have potential long term wear and tear resistance but once again, we’ve not done much in that sector.
@@alpha_one_niner well I have seen bags/ packs maker that offers dyneema option. It is almost 2x the price of the typical X-pac variant. I was trying to figure out if it is worth to almost double the price. Thank for replying!
Cleafe, in general it should be a straight forward wipe down with a damn cloth or if you needed additional cleaning, mild soapy water on the cloth, and then with a damn cloth the second go around. Air dry is when done.
Thank you for this!!!
Thanks for the explanation, much appreciated. Any comments on the durability of VX07 for backpacks?
Thank You, I know now the Difference.
You're very welcome!
What would you use for a bottom of a mid weight (somewhere between ultralight and military grade) DIY Bivy sack?
Mike, sorry we missed this Q! If it’s mid weight then 500D will get the job done. You really don’t need any fancy fabrics for this.
how heat resistant are they?
for the durability & longetivity of the backside, better with tafetta (ex: VX42) or just Poly Urathene (ex: X50)?
same question
Excellent video! Which one is the "loudest" or most "crunchy" one?
We've honestly never thought of the x-pac fabrics as being crunchy.
When you said "the more you use this fabric the more the x ply is going to show" Is that a bad thing or a good thing?
Does it mean the durability declines overtime? Or that's just part of how the fabric patinas?
Just for lock, doesn't effects on durability
Is there any difference in abrasion resistance on the underside of each fabric? E.g. X21 vs VX 21
Nicholas, as you know on the outer surface it’s the same but inside the VX21 has an added layer of 50D poly taffeta so understandably it is more abrasion resistant.
Xpack vs. Dyneema? Which is better for longevity?
Lloyd, unfortunately we do and do not have much experience with Dyneema. And what do mean by that? We have been using Dyneema for ballistic / body armor related projects in our production studio for more than 10 years but we have never used Dyneema for packs, bags, etc. The material we’ve used for armor has lasted a long time. The fabric samples we have currently that are meant for bags appear to have potential long term wear and tear resistance but once again, we’ve not done much in that sector.
@@alpha_one_niner well I have seen bags/ packs maker that offers dyneema option. It is almost 2x the price of the typical X-pac variant. I was trying to figure out if it is worth to almost double the price. Thank for replying!
@@Versatech17 ever figure out an answer for this bud?
Two different companies making new fabrics.
sir how can i wash x pac fabric?
Cleafe, in general it should be a straight forward wipe down with a damn cloth or if you needed additional cleaning, mild soapy water on the cloth, and then with a damn cloth the second go around. Air dry is when done.
@@alpha_one_niner okay very helpful thank you
X-pac vs cordura?
Usually X-pac is Cordura with few extra layer:
1. FACE FABRIC: Abrasions Resistances & DWR
2. X-PLY: Base Stability & Tear Strength
3. POLYESTER BARRIER: Waterproof & Low Stretch
4. WOVEN BACKING: Seam Strength & Durability