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@@jefferyweffery5395 I agree, but I do not agree with the fact that WakY hints towards Macciavelli switching sides if Ezio and the Brotherhood perishes.
@@theonebeing but he also said that Macciavelli would be the safest assassin, and mentioning that he had been in the Borgia's court, so although he never said it out right he is still hinting at the fact that Machiavelli might switch sides, faced with the destruction of the Brotherhood.
@@Emanuelgamer1313_BACKUP I didn’t mean it like that. I meant that Machiavelli is so well hidden/connected that he’s the safest. The Templars would probably not suspect him.
Trust me when I say that Ezio would make Shay piss himself. Ezio was the literal boogeyman for the Templars during his time. I say this with all due respect to Shay, but Ezio isn't built like those mediocre "assassins" Shay dealt with in his time
Fr dude would get folded by someone like ezio and altair. Heck shay never returned to the America's to lead the remaining templars since connor would've just bodied him if he returned even in his prime.
Shay’s only problem with the brotherhood was they found an artifact that hurt innocent people. Ezio and Shay would team up to stop that from happening.
Honestly, I'd like a what if where Ezio somehow is transported to Shay's time, joins Shay in finding the precursor temple (stays aboard the ship Shay was using, which wasn't the Morrigan) and sees what happens. Ezio would not only see the chaos and destruction, but when Shay gets back, the desperation and trauma that Shay endured. Or, maybe something where Ezio comes to Shay's time after Shay recovers from his injuries. Ezio would reluctantly join the Templars on their quest to better the nation but also intervene in Haythem's more chaotic approach to things. Allowing some of the Assassins to live, like Adewale, Hope, Chevalier, and maybe Liam. Shay, while still being a Templar, with Ezio's help, could create a time of "unity" between Assassins and Templars, at least for the North American branch.
I don’t think he would tbh. Shay only defected because Achilles wouldn’t listen to reason, thus the colonial brotherhood was purged. When it came to killing Charles Dorian, it wasn’t personal, just business. And much like haytham, just different circumstances; he was already deeply entwined with the Templar Order. Interesting fantasy match up though.
I don’t think Shay would actually try to… or MAYBE Rodrigio can convince him at first, but Shay would learn that Brotherhood isn’t actually corrupt, so he’d probably try to find Ezio and apologize and explain, and would actually either rejoin the Brotherhood or basically be an independent mercenary ally. (Since he may not trust the Brotherhoods in general, but would be like, “Well, THIS one is good… for now.” That said, I mostly agree with the outcome IF he DID for some reason remain against them. I think La Volpe can probably kill Shay with stealth, and Shay MAYBE survives like 1/10 times lol. (Deadliest Warrior simulation style lmao) Also, I think Ezio would kick Shay’s ass. Basically the 2 most overall skilled Assassins (meaning stealth and combat. Evie is incredible at stealth, Jacob and Connor are pretty good at combat…) are Altaïr who dies some INSANE shit at like 70… and Ezio. None of Shay’s feats really compare. He doesn’t beat anyone even CLOSE to Ezio’s level, basically. Because as you pointed out, Adewale is old. And not insane like Altaïr so it’s not a great feat. If Shay beat him when he was even 10 years younger, maybe we could consider it more favorably. 🤷♀️ Honestly, I think Shay could maybe beat just about any other actual Assassin in combat… except the 1st 3 MCs lol. And the literal demi-gods? Of Odyssey & Valhalla. (I also don’t consider any of the RPG ones or Pirate’s Creed 1: Black Flag’s MC actual Assassins, from what I saw. Tbf though, I only watched about 60% of BF’s story, but Edward literally hadn’t even become an Assassin yet!) So basically, Altaïr > Ezio > Connor > Shay > probably Jacob > toss up between Arno and Evie for combat skill > then finally Basim. He sucks at combat. For stealth? Probably the same but put Evie actually above Ezio, MAYBE even Altaïr. I mean, she’s the ONLY one who literally turns invisible when not moving lmao. Also, Basim apparently moves so fast that his Chain Assassination special ability is the Animus being unable to keep up with his speed… so he’s probably right up there around Altaïr and Ezio. Maybe above, maybe below. Hard to place. Sheer speed isn’t quite the same as stealth, but if you wipe out all witnesses… it’s still kinda stealth. So I think I’ll put him 4th since it’s stealth via speed lol
I feel like shay don’t have chance since ezio can talk with apple of edan to know about shay and ezio is so sneaky and skilful assassin and he has lot of master assassins allies
You forgot that Ezio also had Eagle vision.Not only Eagle Vision - but an Eagle Sense,the heightened version of Eagle Vision.Ezio can track the enemy by just looking at the path.
7:15. For some reason I doubt that he would kill Bartolomeo's wife since she is not his target. But that's just my opinion. Well, maybe in self defense he would...
Personally, I hate when people say Shay could solo ezio and altair easily because he is a templar who hints Assassin's when in reality, the colonial brotherhood that Shay fought were not as skilled as the other Assassin's.After all, those Assassin's are just exactly like gang members like you mentioned.
@@Brotherhoodeditz-k1e yep. Shay can definitely kill more professional Assassins but the ones he faced are some of, if not, the least skilled ones in the entire franchise
I love the effort you put into this and I agree with a ton. However once La volpe meets and evades shay, he’s going straight to ezio. Once ezio gets on the board it’s over. I think the only reason Shay did as well as he did in rogue because he knows their specific tactics from having the same mentor, having a not so established assassin presence, and having haytham there. Ezio is more skilled, has more experience, and I think Shay’s more modern weapons wouldn’t do too much knowing that ezio has dealt with firearms ans poisons already.
I would love to see Ezio's Decendants team up with connor and arno to fuck up Shay. Shay is literally the most human templar on AC history. Funny thing is, Ezio (if he existed in that time period) would probably make friends with him first and then get betrayed and that's when the story would actually start.
Damn, this is good. More of this, please. Edit: Do you think Shay, being from a more recent time period, then Ezio could affect their right? Since martial arts and combat have evolved since Ezio was around?
Ezio was a freaking street hoodlum for like 20 years or whatever, then becomes an Assassin and becomes like the 2nd best in history. Altaïr trained since he was 7 and is not too coincidentally the only one better lol Honestly, anyone who knows how to fight through years of being trained SHOULD be better than Ezio on paper… but aren’t lol
@Paradox-es3bl Keep in mind, Ezio starts training at 18 years old and was already a great brawler. And at end game Ac 2/Brotherhood, he is like 40, and considered one of the best fighters in history.
@@Paradox-es3blAlso, Ezio made it his lifes mission to avenge his father and take in his work at that age, so all that time training+his sheer motivation and discipline... of course he would be one of the best even when compared to great fighters like Shay or Connor.
As much as I love this alternative Story, I cannot help but to wonder how Shay comes to be in 16th century italy when he was not born until the 1700s. Still, this story is something I feel would fit in Assassin's Creed Infinity, as it in my opinion should work both as a catalouge of all the Assassin's Creed games, but also as a forum for sharing stories about alternative timelines and confrontations.
@@WaKy. This is definetly something I want more of. I have not been this excited watching an Assassin's Creed video since seeing news for Valhalla back in July of 2020!
To be fair, you are forgetting one important point in this video. Shay has the Borgias behind him. Which means a non-stop influx of soldiers at his side. Are they straight up bad compared to assasins? For sure, but then again, they have a hole army they can just throw at them. I don't think Shay will let himself walk alone after being hunted. Not to mention he might be teaching some templars the ways of the assasins himself. Not sure the outcome will end differently, but it's sure something that should be considered.
The hidden gun is more advanced than modern guns, definitely more advanced than anything Shay has ever even thought of. Nevermind it can also throw poison. He wouldn't even know what hit him.
1:06 Vali cel Trădat was actually very skilled arguably just like Shay because his wiki page it is said that he was one of the best Assassins hunter ever. Plus Vali is the same guy who outsmarted Revelations Ezio by luring him into a trap so that guards would kill him and his apprentice.
Vali is skilled, but we haven’t seen enough of him to truly know if he’s deadlier than Shay. To our knowledge Shay is still smarter, stronger, faster, more trained, etc.
Honestly ezio would likely convert shay back into the brotherhood as the colonial brotherhood basically lost sight of the purpose of the brotherhood and broke the tenants of their creed, which would only be fixed with connor, and even then this wasnt an issue with just america as even france had people like bellec.
@@GamingFan02 Maybe. I still think Shay’s more durable, but novel Altair could take endurance if you’re comparing them WIS/edit style. Shay surviving getting shot and landing on his head is better than novel Altairs feats. However, novel Altair has taken a bunch of hits and continued fighting at times.
I’d like to start by saying this is in no way an attack to you however I believe Shay would not go after Bartelemeo first as he knows that he would not be too immediate of a threat. He instead would go after La Volpe first I agree in the statement he would not go out searching for him however I feel that Shay would instead try and join the thieves to learn of where La Volpe is and have a closer chance to strike at him. This time as a thief would put him close to Ezio whether it be while waiting in a group on a roof or by being called to protect him as is seen in the mission when you need to save Lucrezia’s lover. Other than that I agree with your video. Again this is meant as a friendly peer review of sorts and not meant to offend or criticize.
No as sad is it to admit. listen I love shay but he'd be dealing with a brotherhood that is much more equipped and established on their terms and turf. Shay would lose not to say he wouldn't put up a good fight either. It's just ezios brotherhood not only has home turf advantage they also have a prime ezio with a fully loyal brotherhood and full and maximized connections to many guilds soldiers and artisan on standby to help.
I think shay would win in a 1v1 personally, reasons like, better material equipment, guns, his speed seems better than ezios (comparing games) his fighting technique is more modern and more suitable in fights, smoke bombs being to his advantage, etc
It's be cool to see ezio from the Templars point of view then we could see how skilled he is, instead of playing him are self we can see him take the tempers around us down, would make for a cool dlc or something and in the end u die to ezio, a story like shay Cormac but ending in a loss to ezio
I mean, Ezio canonically dismantled one of the most entrenched and powerful Templar Order's EVER. Probably only the Modern day Templars are equally dangerous and powerful. Shay dismantled an already dying brotherhood. These two are not even close to the same level. Ezio is still the best in the series with the best canonical feats completely stripping out gameplay entirely. The Renaissance order had complete hold of the church in a time and country where the church was a big deal, had some of the most powerful and influential people in its ranks EVER. These people ran cities and important day to day facilities that hundreds of thousands were entirely reliant on.
Could Shay Cormac take down a prime Edward Kenway? Answer? No. And you can say that is head canon but really, it's more surprising how easily Shay took down the Colonial Brotherhood when pretty much all the Assassins were there for longer and had more time to hone themselves. Also, the events leading up to his defecting was just stupid. If you want to show an "Evil" brotherhood, well, AC 1 already did that.
Shay defected the brotherhood because of wrong assassins. He will surely rejoined the Italian Assassins if he met Ezio. Otherwise, Shay has no chance of winning because Italy has a lot of Master Assassins Ezio and the brotherhood made. If those Master Assassins make a Duo every Masters, chance of Shay is 0 to none. So my conclusion is Shay will rejoin the Italian Brotherhood.
I know this is your own opinion but this is nothing but nonsense you see Shay as a complete idiot and Shay has very powerful allies like Ezio and I know that Shay will easily destroy all of them in short it doesn't matter if it's hard or easy Shay would definitely win (I just see a video made so that Ezio fans don't cry)
No, I don't think that Shay could destroy Ezio's Brotherhood. He could have killed some members of the italian brotherhood, but in the end Ezio would have killed him because he was superior in strength and experience. If Ezio was the young and naive teenager of the beginning of AC 2 Shay could have a chance. Shay destroyed the Colonial brotherhood because they were a bunch of idiots. He has the tecno on his side, but Ezio was an old school assassin who destroyed the greatest Templar order of all Italy (The Borgias)
Shay loses mid diff. he’s skilled but heavily overrated. the assassins he stopped should hardly be considered assassins due to their 💩 skill level. thank you for telling people from the interception missions in rogue aren’t assassins. they are literally just thugs 😂😂😂😂. no assassin in rogue wears those outfits and I still see people calling them assassins
@@okami9039lol never, shays entire feat was killing mid ass assassins while ezio beaten the most powerful group of people like the pazzi, borgia, an army if templars abusing leonardos inventions, the entirety of roma with the assassins he trained. So no Ezio solos shay
I love the concept but your just taking too many weapons away from shay to even make it fair the whole point of why shay is so dangerous is his weapons the sleep darts the berserk the sharpell gernade the pistols and taking away the morgan i get why the morgan has to be taken away but its a heavily weakened shay vs an entire brotherhood and i have to disagree on combat theres no way in hell ezio is a better fighter than Shay hand to hand Assassin wise and being sneaky 100% better than shay but pure hand 2 hand combat no way
So i guess what im getting at is in this scenario yeah Shay definitely looses but if you put ezio and his brotherhood into Shays timeline in the 1700s Shay actually has a really good chance of winning not a 100% chance of winning but definitely atleast a 50-50
Bro ofcourse weapons are taken away and they have similar weapons. Otherwise its like comparison between an archer from 6 th century and sniper from modern day. Weapons are an unfair advantage
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706 not really unfair Ezio has a hidden gun that shii didn’t exist in those times but that doesn’t get taken away it’s unfair to take all of shays best assets and im not talking about the morgan the morgan obviously needs taken out but the sleep darts and the other darts is literally 80% of why shay is so dangerous on land if your going to take all the best assets away from shay hes just a normal assassin it makes the whole matchup unfair and not necessary to even make the video
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706 a good real life example is saying if modern italy and the Holy Roman Empire went to war and you take away modern italy guns and shii and make them fight with swords no Shit Italy would loose they weren’t trained to fight with swords and a shield
Bro ezio has larger health bars than all 3 main kenways characters combined, im not even talking about sync stuff, how fast ezio go through all the mazes in brotherhood in just less than 8 minutes. And the bes part ezio has the ability to see the past, dude can rewind and see fight patterns. Its all over for Shay.
Dude as soon as Shay starts screwing with the guilds if the leaders can't kill him then Ezio will be on to him by then. As the Irish say, he has nae feckin' chance. The colonial guild was PATHETIC. There's no indication that any of his abilities even come close to Ezio. He'd probably start tailing Ezio and Ezio would quickly be on to him, become privy to his existence and appearance, and then it's game over too. Pretty sure the leaders alone are each individually better at what they do then Shay.
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Typo at 14:07. I meant to type “concerned”...my bad.
Can you do shay vs the brotherhood from Altairs time
Honestly, if Ezio and Shay met under the right circumstances I think there's a fair chance of Shay rejoining the Brotherhood.
Thats what i thought, because the Era of Connor Shay Arno Bellec etc was plaged from corruption in the brotherhood
Exactly
I would LOVE to see a video on Shay vs. Connor’s brotherhood
this was so good, interesting to watch and on point, I loved it
Thank you!
Connors brotherhood is nearly unstoppable.
La volpe is underrated. good job not underestimating him
@@jefferyweffery5395 I agree, but I do not agree with the fact that WakY hints towards Macciavelli switching sides if Ezio and the Brotherhood perishes.
He’s a pretty solid Assassin
@@Emanuelgamer1313_BACKUPhe never said that. he said that Machiavelli was suspected as a spy by volpe
@@theonebeing but he also said that Macciavelli would be the safest assassin, and mentioning that he had been in the Borgia's court, so although he never said it out right he is still hinting at the fact that Machiavelli might switch sides, faced with the destruction of the Brotherhood.
@@Emanuelgamer1313_BACKUP I didn’t mean it like that. I meant that Machiavelli is so well hidden/connected that he’s the safest. The Templars would probably not suspect him.
Trust me when I say that Ezio would make Shay piss himself. Ezio was the literal boogeyman for the Templars during his time. I say this with all due respect to Shay, but Ezio isn't built like those mediocre "assassins" Shay dealt with in his time
Fr dude would get folded by someone like ezio and altair. Heck shay never returned to the America's to lead the remaining templars since connor would've just bodied him if he returned even in his prime.
Shay’s only problem with the brotherhood was they found an artifact that hurt innocent people. Ezio and Shay would team up to stop that from happening.
Honestly, I'd like a what if where Ezio somehow is transported to Shay's time, joins Shay in finding the precursor temple (stays aboard the ship Shay was using, which wasn't the Morrigan) and sees what happens. Ezio would not only see the chaos and destruction, but when Shay gets back, the desperation and trauma that Shay endured. Or, maybe something where Ezio comes to Shay's time after Shay recovers from his injuries. Ezio would reluctantly join the Templars on their quest to better the nation but also intervene in Haythem's more chaotic approach to things. Allowing some of the Assassins to live, like Adewale, Hope, Chevalier, and maybe Liam. Shay, while still being a Templar, with Ezio's help, could create a time of "unity" between Assassins and Templars, at least for the North American branch.
@@crynosinso8324 I’m not sure if Ezio would join the Templars tbh but good idea
@@WaKy. I'm not saying he'd be inducted, just a reluctant alliance.
I don’t think he would tbh. Shay only defected because Achilles wouldn’t listen to reason, thus the colonial brotherhood was purged. When it came to killing Charles Dorian, it wasn’t personal, just business. And much like haytham, just different circumstances; he was already deeply entwined with the Templar Order. Interesting fantasy match up though.
I don’t think Shay would actually try to… or MAYBE Rodrigio can convince him at first, but Shay would learn that Brotherhood isn’t actually corrupt, so he’d probably try to find Ezio and apologize and explain, and would actually either rejoin the Brotherhood or basically be an independent mercenary ally. (Since he may not trust the Brotherhoods in general, but would be like, “Well, THIS one is good… for now.”
That said, I mostly agree with the outcome IF he DID for some reason remain against them. I think La Volpe can probably kill Shay with stealth, and Shay MAYBE survives like 1/10 times lol. (Deadliest Warrior simulation style lmao)
Also, I think Ezio would kick Shay’s ass. Basically the 2 most overall skilled Assassins (meaning stealth and combat. Evie is incredible at stealth, Jacob and Connor are pretty good at combat…) are Altaïr who dies some INSANE shit at like 70… and Ezio. None of Shay’s feats really compare. He doesn’t beat anyone even CLOSE to Ezio’s level, basically. Because as you pointed out, Adewale is old. And not insane like Altaïr so it’s not a great feat. If Shay beat him when he was even 10 years younger, maybe we could consider it more favorably. 🤷♀️
Honestly, I think Shay could maybe beat just about any other actual Assassin in combat… except the 1st 3 MCs lol. And the literal demi-gods? Of Odyssey & Valhalla. (I also don’t consider any of the RPG ones or Pirate’s Creed 1: Black Flag’s MC actual Assassins, from what I saw. Tbf though, I only watched about 60% of BF’s story, but Edward literally hadn’t even become an Assassin yet!)
So basically, Altaïr > Ezio > Connor > Shay > probably Jacob > toss up between Arno and Evie for combat skill > then finally Basim. He sucks at combat.
For stealth? Probably the same but put Evie actually above Ezio, MAYBE even Altaïr. I mean, she’s the ONLY one who literally turns invisible when not moving lmao. Also, Basim apparently moves so fast that his Chain Assassination special ability is the Animus being unable to keep up with his speed… so he’s probably right up there around Altaïr and Ezio. Maybe above, maybe below. Hard to place. Sheer speed isn’t quite the same as stealth, but if you wipe out all witnesses… it’s still kinda stealth. So I think I’ll put him 4th since it’s stealth via speed lol
Altair died at 92
I feel like shay don’t have chance since ezio can talk with apple of edan to know about shay and ezio is so sneaky and skilful assassin and he has lot of master assassins allies
You forgot that Ezio also had Eagle vision.Not only Eagle Vision - but an Eagle Sense,the heightened version of Eagle Vision.Ezio can track the enemy by just looking at the path.
A video comparing different assasin brotherhood would be a bliss.
Good idea!
This is actually a great video and more in-depth than I thought it would 🔥🔥🔥
Appreciate it!
@@WaKy. np
7:15. For some reason I doubt that he would kill Bartolomeo's wife since she is not his target. But that's just my opinion. Well, maybe in self defense he would...
Shay is generally a good guy, I think he'd probably just knock her out.
@@aerrae5608 I guess, he could....
Amazing man
No way Ezio losing to Shay
If we include apple in Ezio's it's OVER
Ezio WW
Personally, I hate when people say Shay could solo ezio and altair easily because he is a templar who hints Assassin's when in reality, the colonial brotherhood that Shay fought were not as skilled as the other Assassin's.After all, those Assassin's are just exactly like gang members like you mentioned.
@@Brotherhoodeditz-k1e yep. Shay can definitely kill more professional Assassins but the ones he faced are some of, if not, the least skilled ones in the entire franchise
Totally. He can, it's just that it'll be a lot harder than before
I agree with everything you just said.
I love the effort you put into this and I agree with a ton. However once La volpe meets and evades shay, he’s going straight to ezio. Once ezio gets on the board it’s over. I think the only reason Shay did as well as he did in rogue because he knows their specific tactics from having the same mentor, having a not so established assassin presence, and having haytham there. Ezio is more skilled, has more experience, and I think Shay’s more modern weapons wouldn’t do too much knowing that ezio has dealt with firearms ans poisons already.
I would love to see Ezio's Decendants team up with connor and arno to fuck up Shay. Shay is literally the most human templar on AC history. Funny thing is, Ezio (if he existed in that time period) would probably make friends with him first and then get betrayed and that's when the story would actually start.
Damn, this is good. More of this, please.
Edit: Do you think Shay, being from a more recent time period, then Ezio could affect their right? Since martial arts and combat have evolved since Ezio was around?
Thank you! Yes, being from a more modern time period could help.
I believe Ezio having his recruits as backup would help him against Shay
Ezio was a freaking street hoodlum for like 20 years or whatever, then becomes an Assassin and becomes like the 2nd best in history. Altaïr trained since he was 7 and is not too coincidentally the only one better lol
Honestly, anyone who knows how to fight through years of being trained SHOULD be better than Ezio on paper… but aren’t lol
@Paradox-es3bl Keep in mind, Ezio starts training at 18 years old and was already a great brawler. And at end game Ac 2/Brotherhood, he is like 40, and considered one of the best fighters in history.
@@Paradox-es3blAlso, Ezio made it his lifes mission to avenge his father and take in his work at that age, so all that time training+his sheer motivation and discipline... of course he would be one of the best even when compared to great fighters like Shay or Connor.
No just no. Killing a bunch of mediocre assasins dost mean you could take down ezio. Ezio was "that guy' the best of the best.
True, I mean Ezio didn't get recognised centuries after his passing for nothing.
Really enjoyed the video. I'd love to see a royal rumble of sorts in the same style as this, but with all the Assassins (excluding the demigods)
Valid points. La volpe is a beast
As much as I love this alternative Story, I cannot help but to wonder how Shay comes to be in 16th century italy when he was not born until the 1700s.
Still, this story is something I feel would fit in Assassin's Creed Infinity, as it in my opinion should work both as a catalouge of all the Assassin's Creed games, but also as a forum for sharing stories about alternative timelines and confrontations.
i think this is just a purely "could shay do it"? ive seen tons of people say that shay can take down any brotherhood, but that's clearly not true
I just needed an excuse to include Shay in the story, that’s why I didn’t focus too much on it. But thanks for watching!
@@WaKy. This is definetly something I want more of. I have not been this excited watching an Assassin's Creed video since seeing news for Valhalla back in July of 2020!
Tbh, if Ezio saw what happened to the Brotherhood by Shay's time, he would destroy it and rebuild it from the ground up.
shay be like: Ma coza!? Shoot! Shoot the flying demon!
Honestly, Haytham would have this whole thing done and dusted before Ezio could react. Bro was so dangerous.
To be fair, you are forgetting one important point in this video.
Shay has the Borgias behind him. Which means a non-stop influx of soldiers at his side.
Are they straight up bad compared to assasins? For sure, but then again, they have a hole army they can just throw at them. I don't think Shay will let himself walk alone after being hunted.
Not to mention he might be teaching some templars the ways of the assasins himself.
Not sure the outcome will end differently, but it's sure something that should be considered.
great video for me its almost perfect but... how shay would obey rodrigo after what is latest master did to him ?
I reckon it could go either way cause Ezio is more skilled imo but Shay has better tech and gadgets
Yep, especially if Ezio doesn’t have his recruits
@@WaKy. Yeah
The hidden gun is more advanced than modern guns, definitely more advanced than anything Shay has ever even thought of. Nevermind it can also throw poison. He wouldn't even know what hit him.
Please make shay cormac vs connor kenway brotherhood 🙏🏻
1:06 Vali cel Trădat was actually very skilled arguably just like Shay because his wiki page it is said that he was one of the best Assassins hunter ever.
Plus Vali is the same guy who outsmarted Revelations Ezio by luring him into a trap so that guards would kill him and his apprentice.
Vali is skilled, but we haven’t seen enough of him to truly know if he’s deadlier than Shay.
To our knowledge Shay is still smarter, stronger, faster, more trained, etc.
I forgot who he was until watching this video 😂
Honestly ezio would likely convert shay back into the brotherhood as the colonial brotherhood basically lost sight of the purpose of the brotherhood and broke the tenants of their creed, which would only be fixed with connor, and even then this wasnt an issue with just america as even france had people like bellec.
I have a request: Basim vs Edward
edward slams hard
Would you recommend reading the secret crusade? And does novel Altair beat Shay?
Yes and yes.
@@WaKy. I heard novel Altair is more durable than Shay. Is it true?
@@GamingFan02 Maybe. I still think Shay’s more durable, but novel Altair could take endurance if you’re comparing them WIS/edit style.
Shay surviving getting shot and landing on his head is better than novel Altairs feats.
However, novel Altair has taken a bunch of hits and continued fighting at times.
I’d like to start by saying this is in no way an attack to you however I believe Shay would not go after Bartelemeo first as he knows that he would not be too immediate of a threat. He instead would go after La Volpe first I agree in the statement he would not go out searching for him however I feel that Shay would instead try and join the thieves to learn of where La Volpe is and have a closer chance to strike at him. This time as a thief would put him close to Ezio whether it be while waiting in a group on a roof or by being called to protect him as is seen in the mission when you need to save Lucrezia’s lover. Other than that I agree with your video. Again this is meant as a friendly peer review of sorts and not meant to offend or criticize.
No as sad is it to admit. listen I love shay but he'd be dealing with a brotherhood that is much more equipped and established on their terms and turf. Shay would lose not to say he wouldn't put up a good fight either. It's just ezios brotherhood not only has home turf advantage they also have a prime ezio with a fully loyal brotherhood and full and maximized connections to many guilds soldiers and artisan on standby to help.
it’s debatable that Shay could win in a fight against Bartolomeo. book bartolemo and Ezio took on an entire garrison of guards by themselves
Shay wins by simply stating: "I make my own luck, Assassin..."
I think shay would win in a 1v1 personally, reasons like, better material equipment, guns, his speed seems better than ezios (comparing games) his fighting technique is more modern and more suitable in fights, smoke bombs being to his advantage, etc
It's be cool to see ezio from the Templars point of view then we could see how skilled he is, instead of playing him are self we can see him take the tempers around us down, would make for a cool dlc or something and in the end u die to ezio, a story like shay Cormac but ending in a loss to ezio
I mean, Ezio canonically dismantled one of the most entrenched and powerful Templar Order's EVER. Probably only the Modern day Templars are equally dangerous and powerful.
Shay dismantled an already dying brotherhood. These two are not even close to the same level. Ezio is still the best in the series with the best canonical feats completely stripping out gameplay entirely. The Renaissance order had complete hold of the church in a time and country where the church was a big deal, had some of the most powerful and influential people in its ranks EVER. These people ran cities and important day to day facilities that hundreds of thousands were entirely reliant on.
Could Shay Cormac take down a prime Edward Kenway? Answer? No.
And you can say that is head canon but really, it's more surprising how easily Shay took down the Colonial Brotherhood when pretty much all the Assassins were there for longer and had more time to hone themselves. Also, the events leading up to his defecting was just stupid. If you want to show an "Evil" brotherhood, well, AC 1 already did that.
Shay defected the brotherhood because of wrong assassins. He will surely rejoined the Italian Assassins if he met Ezio. Otherwise, Shay has no chance of winning because Italy has a lot of Master Assassins Ezio and the brotherhood made. If those Master Assassins make a Duo every Masters, chance of Shay is 0 to none. So my conclusion is Shay will rejoin the Italian Brotherhood.
Shay is a badass, maybe is it possleb, but in this timeline from ezio was all Templer no really fighter or got basic in freerunning.
First question is why will shay go against ezio
Because shay is a templar and ezio an assassin.also this is a fantasy matchup.
I know this is your own opinion but this is nothing but nonsense you see Shay as a complete idiot and Shay has very powerful allies like Ezio and I know that Shay will easily destroy all of them in short it doesn't matter if it's hard or easy Shay would definitely win (I just see a video made so that Ezio fans don't cry)
Would Shay win ? Honestly, MAYBE. depends
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No, I don't think that Shay could destroy Ezio's Brotherhood. He could have killed some members of the italian brotherhood, but in the end Ezio would have killed him because he was superior in strength and experience. If Ezio was the young and naive teenager of the beginning of AC 2 Shay could have a chance. Shay destroyed the Colonial brotherhood because they were a bunch of idiots. He has the tecno on his side, but Ezio was an old school assassin who destroyed the greatest Templar order of all Italy (The Borgias)
Major shay glazing in my opinion
Yes. Templars had more allies than assassins. Shay's crew could destroy the entire assassin brotherhood especially with the help of haytham kenway.
With haytham maybe
Without haytham. Nah
Shay loses mid diff. he’s skilled but heavily overrated. the assassins he stopped should hardly be considered assassins due to their 💩 skill level.
thank you for telling people from the interception missions in rogue aren’t assassins. they are literally just thugs 😂😂😂😂. no assassin in rogue wears those outfits and I still see people calling them assassins
@@Mr.Cormac-l9b they all get slammed by Bartolomeo lmao. They’re featless
Ezio wins but hard diff
easy answer
no
Actual real answer: yes
@@okami9039actual real answer: no
@@okami9039hell no
Rome brotherhood and Ezio alone was stronger than entire colonial brotherhood
@@okami9039lol never, shays entire feat was killing mid ass assassins while ezio beaten the most powerful group of people like the pazzi, borgia, an army if templars abusing leonardos inventions, the entirety of roma with the assassins he trained. So no Ezio solos shay
The colonial brotherhood a glorified crew??
I love the concept but your just taking too many weapons away from shay to even make it fair the whole point of why shay is so dangerous is his weapons the sleep darts the berserk the sharpell gernade the pistols and taking away the morgan i get why the morgan has to be taken away but its a heavily weakened shay vs an entire brotherhood and i have to disagree on combat theres no way in hell ezio is a better fighter than Shay hand to hand Assassin wise and being sneaky 100% better than shay but pure hand 2 hand combat no way
So i guess what im getting at is in this scenario yeah Shay definitely looses but if you put ezio and his brotherhood into Shays timeline in the 1700s Shay actually has a really good chance of winning not a 100% chance of winning but definitely atleast a 50-50
Bro ofcourse weapons are taken away and they have similar weapons. Otherwise its like comparison between an archer from 6 th century and sniper from modern day. Weapons are an unfair advantage
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706 not really unfair Ezio has a hidden gun that shii didn’t exist in those times but that doesn’t get taken away it’s unfair to take all of shays best assets and im not talking about the morgan the morgan obviously needs taken out but the sleep darts and the other darts is literally 80% of why shay is so dangerous on land if your going to take all the best assets away from shay hes just a normal assassin it makes the whole matchup unfair and not necessary to even make the video
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706 a good real life example is saying if modern italy and the Holy Roman Empire went to war and you take away modern italy guns and shii and make them fight with swords no Shit Italy would loose they weren’t trained to fight with swords and a shield
Bro ezio has larger health bars than all 3 main kenways characters combined, im not even talking about sync stuff, how fast ezio go through all the mazes in brotherhood in just less than 8 minutes. And the bes part ezio has the ability to see the past, dude can rewind and see fight patterns. Its all over for Shay.
no
Shay can’t even kill ezio
To be fair shay would definitely rejoin the bother hood and explain his future to ezio
Ezio would win because he has Altaïr's Sword which has max damage and perfect guard and speed😁
Dude as soon as Shay starts screwing with the guilds if the leaders can't kill him then Ezio will be on to him by then. As the Irish say, he has nae feckin' chance. The colonial guild was PATHETIC. There's no indication that any of his abilities even come close to Ezio. He'd probably start tailing Ezio and Ezio would quickly be on to him, become privy to his existence and appearance, and then it's game over too. Pretty sure the leaders alone are each individually better at what they do then Shay.
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