A moment of seriousness, a moment of regret and most importantly a chance to learn. I realized first and foremost that it’s been a tough year for riders and manufacturers during this recession, I hope everyone is doing well. Secondly, I realized that this recent video about the S19 was too “commercial”. I wanted to make a video that was more action focused, rather than the typical plentiful of information that I offered in my videos, that resulted in a lot of viewers who felt I left out a lot of useful information. I am far from perfect, I’ve only taken content creation seriously since leaving King Song as an employee since a couple of years ago. It’s time to go back to my roots and find a retailer who will support me through all the EUC reviews that I have to produce. It’s not an easy task, with the constant products released plus other things with my own career and personal life it can be sometimes overwhelming. But I will never undervalue nor neglect the people who constantly watch my videos and continue support me, what I do and what my channel stands for. V14(adventure) and Extreme videos are coming. I’m always open to ideas and listening to what people want to see within product reviews to please speak your mind about the content you would like to see. Thank you for the continued support, -Jack
I'm with the others on this. I felt I was watching an advertorial from Kingsong. Even half the narration sounded like it was being read from an advertising brochure by a Kingsong rep/vendor which was then interspersed by a different voice (Jack) pointing out the limitations of the S19.I don't mind the orange and I also think this should do well for commuting and casual trail rides by non extreme riders. The suspension may be less problematic in this use scenario.
@@official.electricdreamsbecause (at least for me) it was more a sponsored advertisement video than your personal opinion. But that's just how I interpreted the Video. Nice riding/balancing skills though!
@@official.electricdreams Reviews of prototypes are poorly representative of a final product. The vast majority of the video is ride footage over music with minimal commentary. Empty platitudes are made about “best in the game” across several categories without any substantiate. You completely fail to acknowledge major competitors in its class, including the T4, Patton, or Extreme. This is a cool showcase of the wheel. But I would not call it a review.
@@philamonhemstreet8632 My prototype is what basically vendors are getting within the next few days their copy of the S19, with the handle being not the final version quality which I've also stated. Why would you compare the S19 to T4, Patton or Extreme? S19 Is an 18inch wheel whilst all the others are classified as a 16inch. I chose to make this video with more ride footage to make it more entertaining to watch, and less dull where I bore you about the facts... I still provided what I felt was substantial information about this wheel.
Great video! It seems like Kingsong always aims for the hole in the market so this is a nice addition in between all the offload and performance wheels! I noticed you have gained some serious skills riding offroads!
@@official.electricdreams Please tell us more, in usual off-road conditions when overheating occurs? During filming, did it only happen when going up that ravine?
yeah, if you ask me the T4 is a better pick. Consider it the v12ht with suspension, but stays even cooler. My old v12 hit over 70c doing some moderate singletrack trails, but the T4 stayed under 50.
Stopped watching after the words“uses s22 newest slider system to give best suspension ride in the game”. This statement sounds like a commercial, while all the community is aware about the issues with the “improved” roller sliders from Kingsong. Something like - s19 uses s22 slider system, but it requires some considerable investments in aftermarket sliders to unleash its full potential; only then you will be able to enjoy the best suspension ride in the game - would sound much better. Just be honest if you want to grasp attention of those who are in the game…
I legitimately felt it's the best suspension, it uses an air shock which is the most comfortable + the new slide rail which provided pretty good suspension. You can tune an airshock more precisely than a coil shock, and this slide rail system is good because theirs less misalignment of parts that would cause the air shock to break like it does on the S18. I havent tested 3rd party sliders, and I'm not interested to, you shouldnt have to buy a third party slide rail when you expect a perfectly good wheel when you buy brand new. Kingsong should be offering sliders to anyone whos having issue with them. So presenting that as an option would be kind of letting "kingsong off the hook" imho. Keep in mind also the cost difference between 3rd party and the stock ones.
@@official.electricdreams like you mentioned. The consumers shouldn't have to replace the sliders. But they are with the s22. Many ppl are. So why is that?
33.4Kg according to Ecodrift's scales with a lighter air shock. So only a couple of kilos lighter than the S22 pro with more battery and heavier coil spring.
@@AJames-jr8kw Thanks. So the lightweight suspension toplist is 1. S18 2. V11 3. T4 I'd like too see better choices here. Manufacturers! Get cracking! 😁
Do they have the same sucky suspension system??? The roller slides are the worst...mind you rollers were an after thought to even worst plastic slides...
The new suspension system is actually a good improvement over the s22 pro one, not only are the rollers screwed in (and not held in using friction alone) but there are also four other rollers facing the other way so that theres less friction, it looks good but idk how it’ll handle after it gets a bunch of grime and dust stuck inside of it
What happened with this review man.?? Seat? Range? Suspension feeling, quality of speakers, pedals, screen, quality of trolley handle? you barely touch it.. This is suspicious. Def just a paid Ad.
Seat i didnt touch on it because it doesnt come with one. They said they are going to make on but I dont have it so i didnt present one. Suspension quality like i said is the best that I've felt, closely followed by the Leaperkim suspension. Speakers are loud and definitely the best sounding out of any wheel produced, but you do hear a sounds at the top. Pedals: are fine Trolley handle: like i said rattles around. The purpose I was trying with this video was to provide more footage rather than the typical video where i overloaded it with information. I wanted it to be a more entertaining video to watch. Thanks for you criticism I'll keep that in mind.
This vid shows only good sides of that wheel, but there is a lot of NO, NOes for it... - no surface for pro pads - lacking power in comparison in other wheels in that segment - smaller battery in comparison in other wheels in that segment - S22 silder system is good for offroad, jumps and such things but needs a lot of maintenance, which is not that good option for city wheel (as kingsong advertises it) - bluetooth speaker will be outperformed by almost any wireless BT speaker on the market (for me it is useless part - but this is my opinion)
I agree with everything you said except for the speaker, its seriously good, I have ridden and listened to the speaker on the s19 and holy shit it is really loud and surprisingly good quality, as good as like a jbl boombox
This wheel is definitely trying to appeal to the casual rider crowd, not speed demons or trail shredders. However it's major fail point is that awful orange and not having other color options. Same for shock linkage colors
@@official.electricdreams I just see it the same as car colors. Which color on a car would people prefer ; Metallic orange or metallic red, purple, blue, grey, white. I don't see a lot of orange cars. I think majority
A noise of plastic with each step like on the s18...no thank you...even with the soundtrack of the clip we hear it very well...tac tac tac tac....Plastique forever...plastic not fantastic
Why do you say that? It has more footage riding compared to the videos I normally do, this video took significantly more effort to make than some others. I wanted the video to be more entertaining to watch.
@@official.electricdreams don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to undermine your efforts, this is a quality video and is pleasant to watch, but this is not a review What are the batteries? Are they properly sealed (unlike s22)? can you bring the lights down enough not to blind everyone around? Are the sliders shorter/longer? And many more points left unanswered. The video is quality though.
A moment of seriousness, a moment of regret and most importantly a chance to learn.
I realized first and foremost that it’s been a tough year for riders and manufacturers during this recession, I hope everyone is doing well. Secondly, I realized that this recent video about the S19 was too “commercial”. I wanted to make a video that was more action focused, rather than the typical plentiful of information that I offered in my videos, that resulted in a lot of viewers who felt I left out a lot of useful information.
I am far from perfect, I’ve only taken content creation seriously since leaving King Song as an employee since a couple of years ago.
It’s time to go back to my roots and find a retailer who will support me through all the EUC reviews that I have to produce. It’s not an easy task, with the constant products released plus other things with my own career and personal life it can be sometimes overwhelming. But I will never undervalue nor neglect the people who constantly watch my videos and continue support me, what I do and what my channel stands for.
V14(adventure) and Extreme videos are coming. I’m always open to ideas and listening to what people want to see within product reviews to please speak your mind about the content you would like to see.
Thank you for the continued support,
-Jack
I'm with the others on this. I felt I was watching an advertorial from Kingsong. Even half the narration sounded like it was being read from an advertising brochure by a Kingsong rep/vendor which was then interspersed by a different voice (Jack) pointing out the limitations of the S19.I don't mind the orange and I also think this should do well for commuting and casual trail rides by non extreme riders. The suspension may be less problematic in this use scenario.
I wouldn't call this a review...
Why not?
Same.
@@official.electricdreamsbecause (at least for me) it was more a sponsored advertisement video than your personal opinion. But that's just how I interpreted the Video.
Nice riding/balancing skills though!
@@official.electricdreams Reviews of prototypes are poorly representative of a final product. The vast majority of the video is ride footage over music with minimal commentary. Empty platitudes are made about “best in the game” across several categories without any substantiate.
You completely fail to acknowledge major competitors in its class, including the T4, Patton, or Extreme.
This is a cool showcase of the wheel. But I would not call it a review.
@@philamonhemstreet8632 My prototype is what basically vendors are getting within the next few days their copy of the S19, with the handle being not the final version quality which I've also stated. Why would you compare the S19 to T4, Patton or Extreme? S19 Is an 18inch wheel whilst all the others are classified as a 16inch.
I chose to make this video with more ride footage to make it more entertaining to watch, and less dull where I bore you about the facts... I still provided what I felt was substantial information about this wheel.
Great video definitely a fan of the S19
I don’t know why they went with LG batteries again.
Great video! It seems like Kingsong always aims for the hole in the market so this is a nice addition in between all the offload and performance wheels! I noticed you have gained some serious skills riding offroads!
This is not a full review. But thank you for the video. Can't wait to see a real review though.
What about seated riding? Is it possible?
so in a nutShell the s19 its similar to a v12ht with suspension but overheats easier... still nice riding skills and great video 💪
How serious was the overheating? In what situations did it happen?
@@fernandokoltun2537 during uphill climbs.
@@official.electricdreams Please tell us more, in usual off-road conditions when overheating occurs? During filming, did it only happen when going up that ravine?
yeah, if you ask me the T4 is a better pick. Consider it the v12ht with suspension, but stays even cooler. My old v12 hit over 70c doing some moderate singletrack trails, but the T4 stayed under 50.
Stopped watching after the words“uses s22 newest slider system to give best suspension ride in the game”. This statement sounds like a commercial, while all the community is aware about the issues with the “improved” roller sliders from Kingsong. Something like - s19 uses s22 slider system, but it requires some considerable investments in aftermarket sliders to unleash its full potential; only then you will be able to enjoy the best suspension ride in the game - would sound much better. Just be honest if you want to grasp attention of those who are in the game…
I legitimately felt it's the best suspension, it uses an air shock which is the most comfortable + the new slide rail which provided pretty good suspension. You can tune an airshock more precisely than a coil shock, and this slide rail system is good because theirs less misalignment of parts that would cause the air shock to break like it does on the S18. I havent tested 3rd party sliders, and I'm not interested to, you shouldnt have to buy a third party slide rail when you expect a perfectly good wheel when you buy brand new. Kingsong should be offering sliders to anyone whos having issue with them. So presenting that as an option would be kind of letting "kingsong off the hook" imho. Keep in mind also the cost difference between 3rd party and the stock ones.
@@official.electricdreams like you mentioned. The consumers shouldn't have to replace the sliders. But they are with the s22. Many ppl are. So why is that?
Thank you for the video. This is 32kg and the S18 24kg. They've beefed up the motor then, because the extra 700Wh can't make up that 8kg difference.
33.4Kg according to Ecodrift's scales with a lighter air shock. So only a couple of kilos lighter than the S22 pro with more battery and heavier coil spring.
@@AJames-jr8kw Thanks. So the lightweight suspension toplist is
1. S18
2. V11
3. T4
I'd like too see better choices here. Manufacturers! Get cracking! 😁
Great review and cool wheel!
if this is the first and last wheel I will ever own. what should I take? begode t4 or S19 .give your opinion . so that I don't regret having got it
Are you going to release an actual review?
Why did you feel this wasnt a review?
Perhaps I haven’t heard that, but I guess you even didn’t mention about range for this wheel 8(
Extreme review when? V14 review when? Great vids ❤
Coming
Was that the stock shock?
Looks like a great contender to V11.
seating ? range? top speed?
60kmh
Range is about 60km and seat will come later
Just curious what PSI do you keep your tire at?
awesome! i want one🤙
Hi,32kg or 37kg in real?
Thanks for Video
People say the S19 is for lightweught riders. Is it true? What is your weight in kg?
I think the S19 is perfect for lightweight riders or riders looking for a lightweight wheel. I'm 90ish KG.
We are waiting
Its going to take someone a month to figure out how to remove the stock pads and 3d print new ones
Hopefully less than that, I cant forsee it being an easy task before the construction at the front completely blocks it!
Do they have the same sucky suspension system??? The roller slides are the worst...mind you rollers were an after thought to even worst plastic slides...
The new suspension system is actually a good improvement over the s22 pro one, not only are the rollers screwed in (and not held in using friction alone) but there are also four other rollers facing the other way so that theres less friction, it looks good but idk how it’ll handle after it gets a bunch of grime and dust stuck inside of it
So where in Thailand to buy?
link in description
Cool!
How much plz
What happened with this review man.??
Seat? Range? Suspension feeling, quality of speakers, pedals, screen, quality of trolley handle? you barely touch it..
This is suspicious.
Def just a paid Ad.
Seat i didnt touch on it because it doesnt come with one. They said they are going to make on but I dont have it so i didnt present one.
Suspension quality like i said is the best that I've felt, closely followed by the Leaperkim suspension.
Speakers are loud and definitely the best sounding out of any wheel produced, but you do hear a sounds at the top.
Pedals: are fine
Trolley handle: like i said rattles around.
The purpose I was trying with this video was to provide more footage rather than the typical video where i overloaded it with information. I wanted it to be a more entertaining video to watch. Thanks for you criticism I'll keep that in mind.
@@official.electricdreams
The effort is still appreciated. We get your content for free so… keep the good work.
Autonomy test?
Na expectativa s 19
⚡⚡⚡
This vid shows only good sides of that wheel, but there is a lot of NO, NOes for it...
- no surface for pro pads
- lacking power in comparison in other wheels in that segment
- smaller battery in comparison in other wheels in that segment
- S22 silder system is good for offroad, jumps and such things but needs a lot of maintenance, which is not that good option for city wheel (as kingsong advertises it)
- bluetooth speaker will be outperformed by almost any wireless BT speaker on the market (for me it is useless part - but this is my opinion)
I agree with everything you said except for the speaker, its seriously good, I have ridden and listened to the speaker on the s19 and holy shit it is really loud and surprisingly good quality, as good as like a jbl boombox
@@Dra4fter5uper That's interesting. True thing is I've never heard it so maybe if I will I'll change my mind.
This wheel is definitely trying to appeal to the casual rider crowd, not speed demons or trail shredders. However it's major fail point is that awful orange and not having other color options. Same for shock linkage colors
The orange is nice imo but overused since Kingsong and Inmotion both use orange.
Since when do wheels have color options? From all it's drawbacks orange is a matter of taste
@@official.electricdreams I just see it the same as car colors. Which color on a car would people prefer ; Metallic orange or metallic red, purple, blue, grey, white. I don't see a lot of orange cars.
I think majority
"Lightweight" lol
A noise of plastic with each step like on the s18...no thank you...even with the soundtrack of the clip we hear it very well...tac tac tac tac....Plastique forever...plastic not fantastic
People hated the wheel before it even arrived. It's not you
And where's the review? I only see a promotional video
Why do you say that? It has more footage riding compared to the videos I normally do, this video took significantly more effort to make than some others. I wanted the video to be more entertaining to watch.
@@official.electricdreams don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to undermine your efforts, this is a quality video and is pleasant to watch, but this is not a review
What are the batteries? Are they properly sealed (unlike s22)? can you bring the lights down enough not to blind everyone around? Are the sliders shorter/longer? And many more points left unanswered.
The video is quality though.
too slow
AND, pay atention, NO ONE is showing handlebar functionality :)
I did during the subway shot.
That a gi gottendo e ta c hoistat
I don't trust Kingsong at all.
🤐😮🙈
They don’t trust you either.
Trust is to be earned, and not given. I agree, this is going to be a long journey back for Kingsong after the S22.
@@official.electricdreams 💯
🤢🤮 bud light