Cooper Stuff Ep. 179 - Lecrae and Dee-1 controversy. Cardi and Corinthians?!
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Do you get confused about how a Christian should view politics? Are there “Christian things” on the right and on the left? Is the problem that there are extremes on both sides, and we just need to come together in the middle? As complicated as this seems, it’s actually quite simple. Cooper Stuff breaks down what the divide is over in 3 minutes! The rest of the episode explains how the divide began and how it pertains to our current division.
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Look… ratchet has never meant anything other than debauchery and worldly. Lecrae knows this. In fact his early music promoted a pure Gospel message. He helped shape my “gangster” husband.. ex blood member, ex hip hop/ Nas, Beanie Seagal, down with deaf Jam man into a lover of 116 clique to now can’t get enough of Bizzle.. however, when Lacrae went mainstream and said “I’m not a Christian rapper, I’m just a rapper who happens to be Christian” my husband knew what time it was. He had sold out to culture. Look he may say “good” things now and again but so do a lot of people on the wide path.. he puts black, rapper and victim before whom he claims is his Savior and Lord. No just no.
Well put sister !
EXACTLY!
Yeah, he’s rubbed me the wrong way for a while with confusing statements. For someone to be about the culture how can he confuse the meaning? Lecrae is certainly being pulled back in to rap culture not biblical thinking.
Cooper just read your comment in the episode that got released today and I resounded so much with everything you said. Early Lecrae and 116 Clique were my pump up music for life, and challenged me to Go Hard lol. It bummed me out so much when Lecrae started changing with the world. But what bums me out more is all the Christians who didn't even notice.
@danamarshall5136 Many Christians, unfortunately, are super gullible and are easily led. I've been shouting about seeing the signs for many artists who are 'Christians' and then either fall away or never were to begin with.
Christians are so blinded by things that are super obvious. We need discernment and many have none.
52:26 The issue is that Lacrae keeps saying he's tired of politics but he's super political, more than most Christians. He just doesn't like the politics of the other Christians
Nailed it!! He even sang for "Warlock" as he ran for Senate.
Yeah and he posted a photo of his daughter with Stacey Abrams basically stating that she is a role model for his daughter. Basically, he’s become a political leftist while trying to hold on to his Christian persona. I’m sorry but his mask is slipping. I’m really sad because I went through a time where I listened to every of his and nobody else for many months. After that July 4th IG post and subsequent statements I just couldn’t do it anymore.
The politics of many Christians is deeply disturbing. I'm with Lecrae on this one.
@@chrismatetic6461 That's your right. Nonetheless, Lacrae is complaining about him being tired of Christians being political, while he himself is also very political. So it is only ok if he is political?
Man Coop, I can’t tell you how vital your publicly sticking by biblical principles IS in this age of institutional and cultural capture. Praying for ya; keep on “casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God” and “bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ” [II Corinthians 10:5].
Hard to hold thoughts captive while quoting Cardi b. You’re correct, in this age we must be even more careful of our lifestyle and choices not out of legalism but out of desire for purity in our walk with God.
Cooper, you're showing A LOT OF GRACE.
seriously, like too much. Lecrae consistently says anti-biblical stuff
Agree!!
100% Cooper kept calling him a brother ...I'm about ready to say Lacrae is no brother in Christ at this point. The fruit of his life looks straight up RATCHET!
Cooper nailed it. I saw Dee-1 address this and I cheered. I own about 4 or 5 Lecrae albums. I archived them about 6 years ago. I saw him transitioning to a race warrior and I was disappointed and disgusted.
What's interesting is he admitted that his crew (Christian friends and rappers around him) had to call him out repeatedly because he was veering off track, he was becoming boastful, etc.
I'm thinking I wish they were doing that now but maybe he has rejected their good counsel.
Lecrae said that he chose to live in impoverished areas so that he could reach the people there. I feel like he surrounded himself too much with hood culture and went down the slippery slope back into carnal thinking.
I'm black and I hate and refuse to play these race games. God tells us not to look at the world through any lens other than the godly lens. Why would we put on racial lenses? Is God not bigger than race?
God is sovereign. We need to stop thinking we need to get on His throne to address the evil in the world. God will do it through our faithfulness to the whole of scripture.
Saw this the other day. Was happy to see Dee-1 calling Lecrae out for his compromised ways. Thank you for not being afraid to speak truth brother!
To see the lead singer of a band i grew up listening to have such a strong love for truth snd God's word is so refreshing.
I really appreciate how you make us aware of things going on, & how you do what’s biblical by holding other brothers & sisters accountable.
Lecrae lost me with the BLM garbage. That movement was diametrically opposed to christian values. Support for BLM shows a severe naivete or an anti-biblical worldview.
But the insurrection was ok?
There was no insurrection
@SafeHouseArtistry
1. I was not ok with the dummies that illegally went into the capital building. I didn't like when the left did it, I didn't like it when the right did it.
2. Assuming that me pointing out one evil makes me in favor of another shows your political brainwashing is almost complete.
3. Did you also refer to the storming of a capital building by BLM/Antifa as well as the burning of a police headquarters by BLM/Antifa as "Insurrections" or is that terminology reserved only for your political adversaries? Or what about the droves of leftists that descended upon the Supreme Court building during both the overturning of Roe V Wade and the confirmation of Justice Kavanaugh?
I'd be willing to bet that your squeamishness with regards to illegal activity as it relates to protesting only extends in one direction. Happy to be wrong about that, btw.
Calmly walking around the capital building, you mean.... It was literally more of an unauthorized tour, if one is to be honest with one's self. @@SafeHouseArtistry
I never really cared for his music but that blm garbage made me not want to listen to him at all anymore.
Its crazy how gifted John Cooper is too btw.. To see this dude rock live and how good he is music AND his command of scripture and ability to explain it.. You give Lacrae a lot of cred for the gifts you have yourself. Good stuff JC!
Bro, "I smell commies" or "smells like commies" is the absolute most amazing promo code for a cologne brand. 😂
What a mess!! LeCrea really needs to remember, who are we to please?
Who are we to lift up?
LeCrea is fighting an internal battle that it’s coming out and he is to be rebuked. Good on Dee-1.
Good job on the podcast Cooper!
Lecrea contradicts himself all of the time. He's against the political and institutional in the church but then he says it's ok to accept the unique black culture Christianity. He is accepting the sins of the culture. All cultures sin. We are all sinners but we have be unaccepting of sin.
Many people calling themselves Christians are not, and will someday stand before God, and be told depart for me I never knew you
Well the black church is unique. Lecrae does not say to accept the sin of the culture EVER. But he does insist that black Christians own up to their unique culture. I agree with him. When black churches and Hispanic churches abandon their culture and model themselves after white bland business-model churches, it doesn’t honor God and they’re also not staying true to themselves. When Native Americans worship God in their style, it’s really beautiful while they stay true to their culture. God does not like homogeneity (read Galatians for example).
@@paulcalin7533 I am not talking about the difference in worship. I was referring to accepting the sins and then say you are righteous while participating in it.
@@paulcalin7533 He was the one who out out merch that contradicts being Christian. He is saying it's ok to listen to certain music or watch certain things as long as you can say you also read the Bible. It's a contradiction. And that goes for any culture.
@@poundcake88 Much of secular music glorifies God. The rocks cry out praises to God, and when a non-Christian produces something that stirs in me even more love for God, I don't object: I am in awe of the irony of God to use the "nations" to fulfil his purposes. (Sorry for the rant.)
Great video! And love the Stryper shirt 💛🖤 To hell with the devil!
Dude. I saw Stryper live in Pittsburgh in 1983 or 84. Great show. I'm old now. 😂
Spot on again, John. I hear so much of the, "act like the world to draw people to Christ" idea. That is flat-out against what we were instructed to do... to be IN the world but not OF it.
There was a season in my life where God really encouraged me through Lecrae's music, particularly the All Things Work Together album. But post 2020 I got stronger and stronger "woke" vibes from him to where I finally dropped his music off my playlist. He also strikes me as being severely insecure, which is odd for someone so successful and so adamant about what they claim to believe. I hope God leads him back to the true path of righteousness.
Me too. I have 4 or 5 of his albums. But archived them about 6 years ago.
My brother in Christ, i praise God for your passion in guarding and encouraging other brothers and sisters in Christ to love the Word.
Props to D1. He's a fantastic rapper and extremely intelligent! And he's right. Even if Lecrae didn't mean it that way, everyone else reading that shirt takes it that way. Pure hypocrisy
What else would it mean? "I can quote Cardi", meaning I can listen to her and sing her songs. There's no other way to mean it.
Plus, at best it's going to pique the curiosity of the Christian kids who may be able to listen to him, but not mainstream rap (because it's degenerate, and Cardi is the queen of that)... well now "the nice clean, Christian rapper I listen to really likes Cardi B apparently!"
He knew that he's promoting her music to his followers. Then they go watch her music videos and are exposed to basically soft porn. It's either unbelievable stupid, or purposely sinister.
I let my son listen to some Christian rap here and there. Luckily, it's never been Lecrae but I can only imagine if my kid was a fan of his and decided to go google Cardi B because he saw Lecrae promote her.
I have felt this way about Lecrae since he started pushing CRT and BLM. Pray that he leaves those false gods and returns to the one true God.
Hi John. I know you never read these, but as you said, public statement regardless.
Firstly, you are correct in that we should love people who hold views and say things like LaCrae. But this isn't the first time he's said or been this way. And to be frank, I think the church has given him enough leeway. At this point, he has become divisive to the church and divisive to Christian culture. He's unbiblical and driven by his feelings and not the Word. He's been given opportunity to correct his actions, but rarely does (this case of tshirt being an exception). But his long term actions speak louder then his opinions.
And I think it's time, in love, you have one LAST conversation with him and give your points from scripture.
If he still will not see what he is doing and how it's affecting the overall Christian community...then it's time to do with him what you did to Phil Vischer. Cut him off as an acceptable Christian role model and brother.
It's not easy. It's not our first choice and we give much grace as God gives us much grace. But this isn't just about ourselves or our friendship with that person. It's about the outlook on the overall church and the image of a Christ follower.
My heart breaks EVERYTIME you bring up Plumb. I found her music back when I found yours and you've both been in my rotation faithfully. However, when she made the recent statements and sided with the enemy and sin...then I deleted her from my play list. It's not easy. I LOVE her music. It brought me so some rough patches. But she is NOT Christ in my life. Christ fills the void in all ways. Music and people either propel me closer to Him or try to pull me away. Those that try to pull me away and will not heed correction in love, will be cutoff.
I hope you hear what I'm saying and I appreciate ALL the chances you've given LaCrae. But there is line when we must say, enough. I give you to the world and I pray Holy Spirit is in your ear and draws you back to the truth. BUT that's his choice. And his current stance should not and cannot be allowed to be deemed even remotely acceptable anymore. His actions are clear. Our actions should be clear. And I'm not talking about 'cancelling' him. Or berating him. Or flogging or whatever. I'm saying we need to excommunicate him and allow what happens to happen. Because if he TRULY is a Christ follower..he'll see what's happened, repent to Him and the church and allow for correction. If he's not, then he'll continue to blame the church, the 'system', racism, whatever.
Thanks!
Race has a lot to do with why it is so easy for some to walk away from one person today and not another. We cannot show partiality in the way we treat sinful individuals leading others astray.
@@banemaler To be clear, if you're implying the we tend to show more 'partiality' to Lacrae because of his race (as it's a sensitive topic), then I agree. We tend to gloss over it because we don't want to be seen as the 'r' word. However, this is exactly the problem of the church. We need to approach it biblically and equally to everyone. Sometimes yes, circumstances play into it...somewhat. But sin is sin. Race has nothing to do with that. The church must be unified as one body, led by the Spirit and sticking to the Word. Is there going to be sin in that process and brokenness? Sure. But it's not an excuse to allow those that call themselves Christ followers to use Christs name to do sinful and blatant sinful acts. And we do follow Pauls leading the approach and do all things in LOVE. BUT love is NOT allowing sinful acts to affect the church body.
NICE Stryper shirt, brother.
Holding someone accountable that says they’re a Christian and chooses unbiblical stances is not slander.
I love the Stryper THWTD shirt and is was cool to see you, Michael Tait, and Kevin Young rockin out together during the Stryper set at Uprise festival!
I really was hoping John would run out on stage for To Hell With The Devil
Yes it was great to see!
Even Snoop Dog has even had issues with Cardi's antics and words. Lacrae also claimed that no one was available to help in avoiding an abortion in his preconversion days in the late 90s when he was living in the Ft Worth area. I know for a fact that by the late 90s there were indeed several crisis pregnancies there including Mission Arlington!
Snoop- the one who said: “female dogs” ain’t “poop” but “Garden utensils” and tricks so “very vulgar way to refer to felatio”
had something to say about cardi’s lyrics?
As pointed out in this podcast, even a brief reading of Corinthians would suffice to hit the conscience regarding a willing association with the lyrics of Cardi B. The fact that LeCrae didn't have a second take before releasing that T-shirt really does call into question whether he spends much time in God's Word these days. Wisdom must come from being taught by God before it can be distributed to others.
This was a podcast for the history books. Nice response to Lecraes' contradictory behavior. Good on Dee1 for challenging Lecrae publicly.
All this coming from the same guy who rapped about no longer living in a sinful way in multiple songs, first one that comes to mind is "indwelling sin". I am praying for LaCrae to find his way back to truth.
It is easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
He stopped preaching to the choir (like with the rebel album) and started reaching out to the lost & dying world.
@@jtika1978 you don't reach a lost and dying world by imitating it. You reach a lost and dying world by living for Christ and showing that life to the lost and dying. We are to be in the world, not of it.
@@nickchalmers9000 he does that. He has multiple ministries that he’s very involved with including prison ministry. He’s also a committed father and husband. There’s nothing that makes me question his integrity. He has said multiple times that he is pro-life. I don’t agree with much of his political views, but that doesn’t make him not a Christian.
@jtika1978 never said he wasn't a Christian. I firmly believe in the security of the believer. I merely agree with John that LaCrae has drifted into error in this idea that to win the world, you have to be like the world. The righteous and ratchet thing is antithetical to the preaching of Christ and the apostles. My prayer is that he recognizes and repents of his error, just like I have to recognize and repent of my own.
This was very well done. Thank you bro for speaking the truth in love, and for doing so with such depth of understanding. Your analysis here is spot-on.
John rocking that sweet Stryper shirt!!
A sad coincidence was that WAP was number 1 song while holiday song “baby it’s cold outside” was being cancelled
You are 100% correct on this.
That Stryper shirt Rocks!
I was such a huge fan of Lecrae and his ministry for so long, but that dude has lost me with his back and forth and his left leanings.
He didn’t us to be that way and it is so sad. I am glad Dee 1 was brave enough to call him out and that you have covered this.
Christians need to be and stay bold.
Lecrae has made his race an idol in his life.
No he hasn’t you just said that because it makes you uncomfortable
@@benadek6703 LOL Ok buddy
Great show you hit the nail on the head
When your race "culture" is above the holiness of God and his culture, I question your relationship with Christ. LoveChrist and not the world
thank you for being so right on with this. We are not of this world!!!
"To Hell with the Devil!"
Great shirt, John!
Above all the reasons I enjoy Cooper stuff I am probably most thankful for the episode featuring Goodwill. Since shortly after that episode I have started tuning in to Living Lights services every week. All that to say throughout this episode I just kept thinking of the sermon Creed or Chaos where he continually says “HOLD”. If we hold fast to what Christianity has always been we’ll be considered “radical” in this day & age.
You guys killed it at Uprise!! 💯👍
Its hard to call Lecrae a brother when he bashes more Christianity than he does bad culture. Just saying... ;) When things get difficult for believers i want to stand next to those who will stand next to me and not those who easily give into culture and society.
thank you for this video
How are there 4k views and only 400 likes?? great podcast as always brother! Great conversation and saying what we're thinking out loud.
Great episode as always. My take on a lot of hip hop artists is that they go with the flow of culture, regardless whether said artist calls themselves a Christian or not. Tobymac definitely is an exception, and there are others I'm sure.
On another note, I'd totally love for John to an episode on bands and music he listens to and likes, maybe create a playlist of songs he likes. Anyone with me on that? Lol! I caught the Stryper hint btw!
Yeah they aren’t studying the culture the politics and the truth behind narratives. It gets annoying because they have so much pull with many who similarly are lazy in researching what the world is really like
I do believe that if you are going to be on a platform and claim to be a Christian, you got to live it out. Be concise about where you stand, and why. You can't be a light in a dark world by dimming the light and " getting on their level". So now Lecrae just looks like another rapper to me, not much different from any other hip hop artist. I agree it's pretty unfortunate, because hip hop is sort of a thing right now and these guys have a lot of influence on their audience.
Hey Johnny. I got to see you play at Uprise on Saturday, it was the best show I’ve ever seen😆. Also, I was one of the people who waved to you when you were behind stage
I believe he does not like to be called “Johnny” 😅
@@ab-gail that’s why I said it lol😅
Bro keep dropping truth 💣. Youre assertion is, IMO is spot on. Love the Stryper shirt. That Uprise lineup was absolute sulfur fire. Seeing you, Kevin and Tait rocking to Stryper was fantastic.
Great insight! I stopped listening to Lecrae after I learned of his BLM siding. He's struggling to play both sides. I guess he doesn't want to lose the spotlight of what the secular world gives him; and, at the same time hold on to some Christian beliefs. He leans more toward unbiblical, while at the same time making it sound Bibilical. Basically, he's doing a horrible job at justifying unbiblical "truths". "For what will it profit a man to gain the whole world, and loses his own soul."
Love the Stryper shirt! Just pick that up at Uprise festival?
What about Lecrae’s song “Identity” on the “Rebel” album? Our identity is in Christ, that will never change. What in tarnation happened to his fire for Christ, and Christ alone?
As an older person, I can say that had certain events that occurred in the 80’s with the “Moral Majority” not occurred, I would feel more comfortable. The overly tight association between the church and politics was bad back then and that colored the entire church. Admittedly it was a response to rampant immorality (which is far worse now).
However. Today we have left wing people calling themselves Christians and even running what used to be traditional Christian orgs. Most of what people see as politics in the church is a RESPONSE to that fact. The current conflict started with a distinctly leftist movement. Especially calling Jesus a socialist and condemning the church as not caring for the poor which are both huge red herrings.
Christians should try to influence politics with Christian morality, though.
You influence politics by spreading the gospel and seeing people saved. Then they change their world great awakening style. There is no other way.
@@joelapp According to who?
STRYPER shirt = immediate thumbs up
Love your Stryper shirt!!
I've had and asked these same questions about Lecrae and people I know who say the same things as him. The only response I receive are attacks in the comment section. I've just resigned myself to praying for them and the people who attach themselves to their lies.
Thank you for speaking up!
Man, Lacrae has set my alarms bells off since (almost) the very beginning. This should be shocking, but I'm not surprised in the least.
We are called to be in the world not of the world. There is a vast difference! Poor Lecrae doesn’t know the difference.
I have great respect for the stands you take. I am a Pentecostal Pastor who also preaches about these very issues. I had the opportunity to meet you at a concert years ago. Would love the opportunity to talk to you about some doctrinal things that I think is very important !!! God Bless
Hey John. Love your show and how you speak up for the faith in a Biblical way. Wondering if you’ve ever listened to the Canary Cry Newstalk with Gonz Yoshimura and Basil Rosewater? Great show that sounds like it’s be right up your alley.
Its amazing that any Christian votes Democrat (and some Repubs too). We deceive ourselves in so many ways.. As a Christian vote the true "lesser of two evils" or don't vote. All candidates are fallible but you can hold the light of scripture against a candidate and clearly create a priority based in Scripture for who gets your vote.
I personally believe that anyone who follows God and votes is confused. Government is it's own god. You can only serve one master. Voting is violence. Voting is war. Voting is murder.
Wonderful and well said brother. We are Christians first and then anything else . Our identity is in Christ .
Love your bold conversations on topics that matter for day to day conversations around the water cooler
Missed you last week. Thanks for another rockin message. God bless.
John, you should have Phil from All That Remains on to talk about Culture, Politics, and Music some time. I feel like you two would have a good vibe. He's not a Christian, but I think it would be a good episode.
I think john on timcast would be a good episode. Maybe I’ll send a superchat
@@Absolute_Goober I have been thinking that since they first started having guests. I tried to tweet it at Tim, but he either didn't see it, or skipped over it.
@@JoelSinn-sd5fnif we all tweet at Tim to have Coop on, he’ll take notice.
1:01:13 THANK YOU! Finally someone said it!!
Last time I checked we live in a system that definitely helps a certain group of people over and over but also still has power over them. I’d rather work extra hard to learn more and trust GOD as my provider. I don’t agree with any of the mess in this world and everyone is twisting the word of God to fit their feelings…GOD never changes nor does His Word
Please tell me you two bumped into each other on Saturday at Uprise and there is a follow up video coming....
I am so impressed with Dee1 and it was my pleasure to add him to my iTunes library.
LeCrae completely lost me about 7+ years ago when we all watched him publicly disrespect Voddie Bacham. Sadly he's only become more progressive, often doubling down on his entitlement to victimhood.
What did he say about Voddie?
Awesome concert Saturday Night in PA. Did you pick up the shirt this weekend from Stryper at the concert? Thought it was ironic this episode came out after Lecrae played the night before. Great respectful disagreement on this topic. The Biden Whitehouse is definitely not a Womb to tomb Whitehouse!
John! Thank you for this video! I've been saying this about Lecrae for the past few years now. I've been so disappointed in how his music has been so race-centric and to quote him, he's on the left side of history.
I pray that Lecrae would really see Jesus and only Jesus, not his skin color, not his hood culture, not this ratchet/righteous attitude.
Thanks again, John. I thought I was alone in this. God bless from Oregon, brother.
Culture should still not be over Christ when it points to a lifestyle in lockstep with worldly values.
When I first came to Jesus Lecrae's music helped me tremendously. Then somewhere along the way he put culture over the kingdom. He became very lukewarm, and almost seemed to have to prove he was black. Just seemed very divisive and not of God. He's talented and I hope he wakes up instead of being so woke. In the words of cooper stuff he wants the woke 🍪
He’s always struck me as a man that wants money over a relationship with God and his behavior over the last few years has proved that
I agree with you. I worry most about the kids or young Christians who listen to Lecrae and will become confused and drawn in to the worldly culture of today. 1John 2:15 “Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the father is not in him” I think this is where Lecrae is at, and it is very sad.
You've been with Tait quite a bit lately. I'm curious if he ever brings up discussions like this and where he stands.
Cooper. Love the work you do in Christian music and your intentions to serve God. 🎸However, Respectfully, I believe that you politicized the words of Dee-1 & this issue between two men of God more than were necessary, and I believe that this conversation should’ve been had with the man/men himself/themselves-especially with this being kind of “housekeeping”. I would love for you to have him on to talk about the intersections of race in American culture & the history of race in the country and his Christian leaning. He’s actually a professor at Tuft University!🎉
- I believe you took a little bit of liberty in what he was saying to vent your point about a matter that is much different from what Dee-1 was discussing. I believe that he would agree with you wholeheartedly on your stance on Cardi B lyrics, but I think that you took liberty with some of your other discussion that I don’t believe you had to liberty to. 🙂
- I believe your intentions are pure, but I see a lot of conflating in this monologue. Be blessed. 🙂🙂🙂
Lastly, as a black person myself, I do not want my blackness to be associated with ratchetness but rather excellence! So I really appreciated the words from Dee-1 and I’m praying that people will listen to what Dee-1 was saying and not add to it. 😊😊😊.
And with that no one can erase the trials and triumphs of my people who were in times of turmoil and discrimination, cried to God and prayed to Him. And HE heard and HE answered. Yes, historically the church was a pillar in the black community and it spurred, revival and revolution in America today. That is what I want people to think when they hear and see us. That is the blackness that I wish that many in my community would return to-a race that sought after God. I want everyone to be reminded of the prayers my ancestors, who prayed as they were working tirelessly to build this nation and prayed prayers that I am now seeing fulfilled in my lifetime but not without struggle yet at the same time not lacking hope. 😊😊😊😊😊
What an amazing segment it was so gripping I had to hear it several times. Very eye opening.
2 Corinthians 4-8-9 Real Righteous and Relevant...Much ❤️😊
Lecrae doesn’t bend to pressure-that’s what I appreciate about him.
very strong episode and it's great that you talk about these
Would you? Look us up and hit the button
GREAT discussion. I saw the IG replies the gentleman gave to Lecrae. While he was calling him out, he was in no way disrespectful. I find it amusing that Lecrae only removed the shirt after many others began to call him out on it...seems like trying to save face rather than actually being sorry for the initial decision to put that shirt out. I liked him, but like you, I stopped following him when it became obvious he was being more political than sharing the Christian faith.
You spiritual stud muffin you. Speak that Truth!
I think everything you said it was right.
I agree with you 100 percent.
People like to hear sugar coat everything.
And not really the truth.
This world is crazy sometimes.
And sometimes I don't understand it.
But people like to hear the lies.
Like you come up to people.
And tried to told them the truth. They go off on you.
They like the sugar coat.
It really.
For me, I like to hear the truth.
People need to understand the world is not the same.
no more.
But you did the right thing.
I'm so proud of you.
Ok, bye. 🖤
Good that these men worked it out for the glory of God
John, great episode! I agree! Dee1 is definitely picking up on some things. Wanted to ask, I noticed that Skillet isn't at winterjam this year, but Lecrae is. What's up with that? Did your message upset them 2 years ago? I'm just concerned about thw state of it being that we take our youth group. Just curious
Saw you all at the Oregon fair in August. You guys were amazing as always!
Skillet/Stryper tour!!!!!!!!!
Heck yes! Pensacola FL please!!
I am a huge skillet and rock/metal fan. It was a great honor to be able to meet you guys and attend a show with our friend Dr Brown. I'm very glad that someone is FINALLY speaking up the way the late, great Keith Green did as a voice to the Christian music community/industry. That being said, I do have a question. You've freely mentioned in the past that some of your biggest musical influences are Slipknot, KoRn, and Metallica, among others. I personally have tried to never listen to secular music of any kind and I have only listened to maybe three or four secular metal songs. And that only after I make sure the lyrics aren't awful. I personally only listen to Christian metal bands like Skillet, Love And Death, 7th Day Slumber, etc. I'm curious. What's your stance on listening to say, KoRn? Is it a style thing and you listen to it simply for inspiration for your music? Or do they have "clean" radio friendly versions that you listen to? Cuz I know that the lyrics of some of those songs are nearly as disgusting as the most vile rap songs. Would be interested to know your reasoning. Keep doing the great work! 🤙
I’m glad Michael tait stood up to blm nonsense
Life and doctrine both need to reflect Scripture and Jesus Christ. In the case of Lecrea both those things seem to be off the rails and have been for a while ( which is super disappointing because when he first came out I liked his music, his message since he was one of the few who actually rapped Scripture and walk with God).
I see a Stryper To Hell with the Devil shirt on! Good choice.
Emnity with the world is a significant problem within CHH (Christian Hip-Hop). Artists in this genre frequently try to live both in faith and in the world. They happily quote worldy rappers and do guest features with rappers who peddle murder, drug abuse and lasviciousness. Lacrae is one of the worst offenders and only serves to make matters worse by playing into the black person as victim narrative. It breaks my heart that Americans of African descent are losing their lives, but it infuriates me that people like Lacrae are deemphasizing the ongoing failure of the black community to recognize and suspend the generations long curses of debauchery and hypocrisy that have led and continue to create more victims than anything perpetrated by white individuals. Based on the way in which Lacrae repeatedly presents himself I have a hard time considering him a brother in Christ.
Hi John, I have to say I got to see you live in Valparaiso IN w/Toby some years ago when you guys came out with Tonight. Two of my favs....I will never forget it. You are still looking the same as you did except for the beard....lol. This thing with Lacrae is so sad to me. I love his early music when he rapped with Tedashi. We just need to pray that he comes back to his true faith. If he is a true believer he knows in his soul he can't mix the Bible with the world. We are called to separate ourselves from the love of the world. I just pray for God to heal his heart so he can find his way back to true faith. Love your passion and Christ filled content. God bless you and your family.
I’m not so sure he is a brother in Christ. I would not be surprised if he eventually denies the faith altogether.
Off the top, I'd say he has a foot in the world and a foot in the kingdom. Bless his heart. Pull him back. He's in trouble. Praying for him!
Good stuff. Keep the faith!
In my opinion you are on point brother.
Good morning!
LOVE that Stryper shirt!
Well done, Coop!
Those lyrics - even edited. Can I spray a can of Lysol in my brain.
Another great episode! You’re one of the voices I listen to because you analyse issues through the lens of Scriptures. I’d like to know if you will be touching on Christian nationalism as it’s vague to me. I respect brethren on both camps. Thanks!
Now Concerning Dee-1, I Agree With him About What he Said Concerning Lecrae And The Righteous And Ratchet Term And Those Ridiculous And Reckless Cardi, Kendrick And Corinthians T-SHIRTS, But he himself Turns Around And Releases A Album Featuring Ratchet Gangsta Rapper The Game On It. That Move Looked Like A Putting Culture And Color Over Christ And His Kingdom.