*THE PACIFIC* (Episode 9) REACTION
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My uncle spent 30 days on Okinawa as an 18 year old Marine...he had to deal with the Japanese soldiers using civilians as living shields. How one can witness that and ever function normally again I will never know. He had some issues but came out alright.
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soviets and germans used human shields too. It doesn't make it less messed up.
That pipe is Sledge's actual pipe. His family gave it to the actor for the show. He may actually still have it.
Countless young men went thru the Pacific campaigns and came home without a scratch, but unable to unsee, unsmell, unhear all they experienced . Perhaps many went thru the rest of their lives with amputated spirits, yet still somehow functioned.
Virtually all are gone now.
I had forgotten to mention this earlier but the place where K/3/5 was fighting was only a short distance away from where Desmond Doss was saving lives as shown in Hacksaw Ridge. What a horrible piece of ground.
I have been there; now part of it has a big children’s playground. Okinawan playgrounds are epic.
In the japanese eyes the okinawan natives were no real japanese. they were seen as lesser beings and mistreated and deported on a normal basis. Woman were forced into sex labor and men were conscripted against their will into labour battalions, worked to death or even forced to disarm faulty munitons or mines without any tools or training. The natives were sitting between the chairs and they had been told by the japanese propaganda that the marines would torture them and eat their babies alive. they had no way to go or side to turn to so many choose suicide. Its a real tragedy and a mostly forgotten part of history.
it was a tough episode, but I always like it because we see Eugene come out on the other side of it...he rediscovers the humanity of others, and in doing so, his own humanity. it's a hopeful episode...for Eugene...after so much suffering and anger and hate. so powerful.
This was easily the hardest hour of television to watch in history. My grandfather was in the War and would always say the worst fighting was in Okinawa. This is only the tip of the iceberg.
The Imperial Japanese army was notoriously cruel, in some aspects they were worse than the Nazi German army. Japan didn't sign the Geneva articles for safe conduct and humane treatment of prisoners. There were forced death marches, concentration camps, slavery, mass executions, torture, human experimentation, etc. That I know of, they were the only army to use poison gas and biological warfare in the form of plague infested fleas during WWII. Using civilians as suicide bombers and meat shields was common. Perhaps among the worst things they did was they cannibalized POWs, despite having plenty of food.
The Rape of Nanking in 1937 foreshadowed how cruel the IJA would be in later years.
Not true. The Japanese did sign the Geneva convention but it was not ratified. In 1942 however, they publicly declared they would follow its rules. Of course, they had different views on who was worthy of its protections.
My Father was a Navy Corpsman with the Marines on Okinawa. He never talked about this part of the war and we did not learn about him being with the Marines in Okinawa till after his death and my oldest brother went and got a copy of his service record.
All we knew was he joined the Navy in September 1941 to be a Navy Corpsman. He reported for his Corpsman school at Balboa Naval Hospital on 6 December 1941, the next day Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Upon his completion of Corpsman school he was sent to Naval Hospital Pearl Harbor and was there till he was sent to Fleet Marine School and was integrated into the Marines and shipped out for Okinawa. After the surrender he was sent to be in the first Marine occupation troops in Japan till his enlistment ended in 1947. In the six years he was in he only got to take leave one time when he was being shipped back to Balboa for the Fleet Marine Corpsman school. 24 days leave during a six year enlistment.
The worst is that the Japanese high command knew the war was lost by this point. Naval high command actually crying while asking for supplies from other branches (specifically the army) just to try to re-supply their forces and having it sunk along the way to the ships.
The real shitty thing is it was basically over after midway, but there were still years of fighting left to get there
The divide between the IJA and the IJN was really what caused the attack on Pearl Harbor. There was something I read about that stated the IJA wanted to invade the USSR but the IJN wanted to attack Pearl Harbor, and we know what happened after that... I'm not sure why the navy got their way but either way, I don't think Japan could win in either scenario.
@@QuackAttack The Battle and defeat at Khalkin Gol between the Red Army and the IJA in 39 is what convinced the Japanese to take the southern invasion route. They learned then that the USSR was not as weak as the Japanese thought.
They were hoping that such determine defenses and savagery would force America to sue for peace but instead it lead to America taking more drastic measures
The Japanese were loading their ships fuel bunkers with raw crude just to be able to get some sort of sorties.
I was stationed on Okinawa and have been to many battle locations. Almost got to meet Gene Sledge; that is another story. The US casualties on Iwo Jima & Okinawa (plus the 200,000+ civilian casualties on Okinawa) is what convinced President Truman to use the atomic bombs. The invasion of the Japanese home islands was set for 1 Nov 1945; there were estimates that the US would suffer 1 million casualties, with millions more Japanese killed. In fact, the US military bought so many Purple Heart medals anticipating the invasion that haven’t needed to order any more since 1945 (Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars, Afghanistan have barely put a dent in the stockpile). As horrific as the atomic bombs were, they were the lesser of 2 evils.
Something a lot of people don't know is that before Okinawa, the initial plan for Iwo Jima was to just saturate the island in mustard gas. The plan was approved all the way through the chain of command until it reached FDR, who canceled it. When Truman had the chance to avoid another amphibious assault on the Japanese mainland, he took it.
It was also the kamikaze attacks that moved Truman to use the bombs.
I thought it was 4.5 million American casualties?
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 It may depend on how you count casualties - 1M killed; another 3.5 wounded perhaps.
@Slawa Boga other ways? like having the Soviets raping the Japanese women and kids, looting their houses and sending their men to die in gulags, like they did with half of Europe? other ways, like having the americans and british invading Japan main island and creating an even bigger bloodbath when fighting the fanatician Japanese civilians? the U.S. warned the Japanese government and their people during weeks prior the launching of the bombs, asking them to surrender if they didn't want to face full destruction, and what the Japanese did? they decided to proudly ignore all of those warnings and keep fighting, the *FACT* that Japan still refused to surrender even after the 1st nuke was dropped, should be enough incentive for the weaboos like you to finally comprehend that the atomic bombs were not only the best, but the only option the U.S. had left, and the only ones to blame for that are the Japanese and their lunatic asses
So the story with Sledge and the old woman played out a little differently than is depicted in the show. So her wanting Sledge to end her suffering and him refusing to shoot her is true however Sledge actually went and found a corpsman (a marine corps medic) in the hopes of trying to save her life. But when Sledge and the corpsman were approaching the shack they heard a single gun shot and out of the shack walked another marine who, much to the disgust of Sledge and the corpsman, had followed through with the woman’s request to end her suffering.
My grandfather (mon's side) was part of the army corp of engineers during WW2 it was on Okinawa that he developed a hatred for Japanese for a good while. He was also during the aftermath of the war stationed in Korea where he saw more of the devastation done by the Japanese while helping to rebuild. He had nightmares all throughout his life about his experience on Okinawa. Now my grandfather on my dad's side worked on the radar for naval ships in the Pacific. He was a Filipino American and lived just outside of Pearl Harbor when it was bombed. Several of my relatives in the Philippines where forced on the Batan Death March. My Great Aunt died. He to disliked the Japanese till my father met his best friend who was Japanese. The war in the Pacific was just brutally different then in Europe.
The Japanese using the Okinawans as human shields and civilian bombs were indeed very much a thing. The Japanese treated anyone who wasn’t actually Japanese as sub-human and were just as racially fanatical as the Nazis were.
Out of the original 300,000 population of Okinawans on the island, sources claim nearly up to half of them perished during the battle. Causes vary from being caught in the crossfire, used as human shields, mistaken as combatants, deliberate atrocities, starvation, exposure, disease, and suicides. Okinawa was the pinnacle of brutality of combat in the Pacific, and such results of casualties and sheer brutality was enough to convince Allied leaders that the use of the two atomic bombs was necessary to final force the Japanese to submission.
In this episode, you can tell that. By the time they were on okinawa. They were just tired of it all, which is understandable. Because By 1945. A lot of these guys have been at war since 1942
Had the atomic strikes failed a full scale invasion of Japan was planned for spring 1946. That plan called for 300k Marines and 2 million US Army personnel toland in southern Japan. In addition to 500k British, Canadian, Indian and Australian troops. Russia was also slated to invade Northern Japan with a million personnel.
It’s not true history
The Russians were not going to invade the Northern Part of Japan, the US wasn't going to allow it. Also the Russians didn't have enough transport ships or landing craft to carry out such an opperation. They suffered heavy casualities taking the Kuril Islands.
This is absolute bullshit. Virtually all of Truman’s top brass including MacArthur and Nimitz explicitly stated that the embargo was working and that no land invasion would be required. Japan even offered to conditionally surrender once the USSR joined the Pacific Theater
Love this series! Started watching your videos because of this mini series! Been waiting for this reaction. On to the last episode!
The Okinawans were treated very terribly by the rest of Imperial Japan. The Japanese believed that the closer they were to their Emperor Hirohito, the more high up and superior they are to other Japanese.
Been waiting for this for like a month lol
It wasn't a grenade that the lady in the hut dropped, it was a child's toy!
Really? It looked like a grenade to me.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 that's not what a grenade looks like, that was a red toy
My grandfather was on the u s Franklin.
It was hit by 2 500 hundred pounders and a kamikaze. One of the 500 pounders made the elevator shoot up in the air and landed inside the carrier.
This was the hardest episode for me to watch. It is heartbreak after heartbreak
I hope you guys do Generation Kill after The Pacific. Gives you a different, more modern perspective on Marines.
Omg your reactions were so great
Unfortunately, that moment with the dying lady and her baby was not how it actually occurred. Eugene Sledge wrote about how he had left to find a corpsman, when another marine walked in and shot the woman before Sledge could come back with help.
This is the same island as where Hacksaw Ridge occurred. They're not too far from each other if I remember correctly.
Gotta love the ruthless, honorless, radical japanese of the time!
My great uncle accidentally stumbled upon the first bomb because he was stationed on the island it was being kept at . He literally saw it the day before Hiroshima and was almost court marshaled
The terrible arithmetic
Will no one tell me what she sings?-
Perhaps the plaintive numbers flow
For old, unhappy, far-off things,
And battles long ago:
William Wordsworth
If you remember the “turkey shoot” from the battle of the Teneru in episode one you can see that the war has changed. The Marines are still winning, still inflicting terrible losses on the Japanese. But the ratio has changed dramatically. It is costing more and more Marines casualties to win these campaigns. And Okinawa is not really one of the Japanese home islands. Planners looked at how this was going, what our estimated losses would be in operation Olympic. We started to make Purple Heart medals for the estimated wounded. Only recently did we use all those, after Korea, Vietnam, and the desert wars.
We also decided to go ahead with dropping the atomic bombs. The planners figured there would be heavy losses to end the war. They decided they wouldn’t be American losses.
If you remember Dr Sledge’s words in episode two about it wasn’t having the flesh torn away, it was having their souls ripped away, you can understand how close Eugene came to losing his soul. This is a very tough episode but, honestly, I might cry more in episode ten.
Yall should want generation kill it an HBO mini series like but about Iraq it one of the most accurate depiction of war
If we had to invade Japan proper, you could magnify all you saw a thousand times. The A bomb was terrible, but it actually saved lives, Japanese civilians, soldiers, and American. Casualties on our side alone were estimated at anywhere from 200,00 to a million, depending upon what happened and where. And up to 10 million Japanese civilians.
If it makes you feel any better hamm and peck weren’t real people. They were based off multiple soldiers
戦争は人を極限まで追い詰めて他の人をましてや味方ですらも殺すことを厭わないってことを書かれてて興味深い映画だった
Right after snafu got off the ammo can i got a charmin commercial
Deam this series is faar more dark than band of brothers, i love them both anyway
I am still waiting for The Dark Knight Rises xD
'tis a hard watch but necessary.
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Something they didn't show is the Japanese convinced the native Okinawans that the Americans would rape, torture, and kill them. To prevent such a fate, many of them, including mothers with their infants and children held tight, threw themselves off cliffs and into the sea. The Japanese in WW2 were truly evil. There's a reason the US has not, and never should, apologize for the atomic bombings.
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This episode is hard to watch
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Read about the civilians on Sipan. That's rough. Ww2 in HD talked a bit about it.
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