At Home with James Bailey | Brewing with the Clever Dripper

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @tijmen131
    @tijmen131 4 года назад +78

    You got a shout out from James Hoffman, well done!

  • @philave5482
    @philave5482 4 года назад +77

    James Hoffmann got me here!)

  • @johnnyb4631
    @johnnyb4631 4 года назад +32

    Wow, the difference is actually amazing. Pouring water first is a game changer for the Clever Dripper. Thank you a lot for that. I use the Clever everyday so this has made my life easier and my coffee brewing more enjoyable. So that alone deserves a like and subscript... I came here because auf James Hoffmann and was not disappointed ;-)

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +3

      We're very glad to have helped, Johnny. Thanks for the kind feedback.

    • @colinmaynard2879
      @colinmaynard2879 4 года назад

      Must admit when I switched to water first I added the coffee in at the same speed I normally did...and some of it bounced! Messy.

  • @Unexplained_Bacon
    @Unexplained_Bacon 2 года назад +6

    I made a good cup of coffee once. Just threw some pre-ground Illy espresso into a V60. No pre-heating, no measuring, no timing, no ratios... absolute perfection, totally fluked it. Strong, sweet, chocolatey, yet clean and crisp. I've been chasing that brew ever since and the memory of it torments me to this day.

  • @ScarsOfAFracturedSou
    @ScarsOfAFracturedSou 3 года назад +10

    It is the number one most used and revolutionary idea of how to brew with the Clever Dripper that I use every day. Thank you!

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +1

      Very glad to hear it, Matthew.

    • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
      @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Год назад +1

      Haven't got there yet, still tinkering. I use this more as a way I change this up, use the clever near exclusively.

  • @hotbeefymcd8162
    @hotbeefymcd8162 2 года назад +2

    I cannot recommend the clever dripper enough. Delicious, SIMPLE. Haven't touched my aeropress or chemex in months.

    • @Lazerscythe
      @Lazerscythe Год назад

      Really? I find the Chemex to produce better quality coffee, maybe because of the bloom and slower pour over.
      I really enjoy the Clever, but mostly use it when I am feeling lazy or making a big brekkie and want an easy brew.

  • @chefanthonydispensa
    @chefanthonydispensa 2 месяца назад

    Best coffee place ever!!! Love u guys!!

  • @tleafs3638
    @tleafs3638 4 года назад +3

    Clicked for the coffee, wasn't expecting to hear clever girl, great choice

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +3

      Thanks, Tom - James is actually in the band, so the track was used with his kind permission.

  • @persianwingman
    @persianwingman 4 года назад +6

    The water first then coffee second is a good idea

  • @lorner96
    @lorner96 Год назад

    Did not expect to hear Clever Girl on the workshop coffee RUclips channel

  • @Ma_Ba
    @Ma_Ba 3 года назад +3

    @3:10 - @3:11 shows the bean grind/particles

  • @schweigsamerdan
    @schweigsamerdan 2 года назад

    wow! amazing! thanks a lot! came over james video and the water approach is a keychanger! always had stalled drips! thank you so much - cheers from The Hague

  • @WhatsInAName222
    @WhatsInAName222 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the guide and the handy tip. I used the CCD for a couple of years right around the time it came out. It was excellent but then one of the plastic legs broke off and that was followed by valve starting to leak. One too many cleanups later, I called it quits and moved to a french press and now my daily driver is a stainless steel Kalita Wave . But guess what showed up this morning thanks to your video? The CCD but this time made with glass instead of plastic. Really looking forward to applying your technique to it. I am not a coffee snob but thanks to folks like yourself and James Hoffman, I am now able to appreciate good coffee.

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +1

      That's super interesting - we weren't aware that there was a glass version of the Clever Dripper out there, but have seen other brands selling glass and ceramic versions of a steep and release brewer.
      Happy brewing and thanks for the kind words.

    • @hans6304
      @hans6304 3 года назад +1

      Hello, what brand is your glass Clever Dripper? Cheers

  • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
    @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Год назад

    Still not sure this will be my go to method, but having another excellent cup made similarly, but kept at boil in micro on low. Yum.

  • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
    @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Год назад

    James, if you revisit this method, which is now part of my quiver, but not goto. "blind" this method, also more standard clever bloom, then pour over, plus pour over in a decanter in similar methods, then pour through open valve.all 4 into a clear vessel. shoot for same total brew times, grinds water temp etc. I have found that a traditional clever pourover streams out much darker in color, than the pur on top method. I'm not saying better or worse, but though I dont have my refractometer on hand, it is clearly more extracted......On some other blog the author wrote, the reason for faster draw down times in grings atop, is the filter is far less clogged at the bottom because dry fines have infiltrated. Also grinds on top is kinda a presoak and the coffee particles have expanded I surmise. If this is the case, stirring up a brew in a vessel before filtering should have a similar or faster "drop" Hmm since i've been convinced Higher brew temps are better, may have to try an old school boil the grinds a couple of minutes then filter. Maybe add the boiled coffee for 5 tests.grinds on top in a separate vessel seems redundant to just doing so in the clever? Might reveal something? My clever is not opaque.......nor is my filter. hmmmmmm any clear filters out there,,,,,rice paper? Vellum? Posting same on the other James YT.

  • @ScottieBMTH
    @ScottieBMTH 3 года назад +1

    Just got my scales out of the box after Christmas and followed this recipe using a light roast - makes a v nice cup! Thanks for sharing

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +1

      Wonderful to hear - thanks for letting us know, Scott, and very glad to hear you enjoyed the recipe.

  • @petertr2000
    @petertr2000 Год назад

    Got my Clever back out of the cupboard 2 weeks ago now just for fun. Been drinking morning lattes and afternoon americanos for a year now - and what do you know, I much prefer the clever to the americano (Bambino, Baraza ESP). A £25 gadget!!

  • @kyracl7318
    @kyracl7318 Год назад

    Great video learnt a lot!

  • @gowestjeff
    @gowestjeff 4 года назад +3

    Nice technique, also here from James Hoffman. Happy New Year!

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for stopping through, Jeff, and all the best for 2021.

  • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
    @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Год назад

    Thanks for this, glad James Hoffman credited you. Haven't yet dialed this method in. Partially b/c I brew a full 14 oz for my OVERPRICED Ember mug 2 14 oz and drink at 156 F. Today I mimicked your method draw down rime wasn't super speedy....think I'll grind a tad larger tomorrow. Having been convinced hotter is better I stick the whole kit and kaboodle in microwave on LOWEST!!!! setting to keep at near 100 C 212 F whole "steep" and have had great success, better extraction. Mentioning Cuzco where water would boil 200 ish degrees, me curious how a cup would be atop Denali at 160 F boil. Hmmmm

  • @philipfreedman615
    @philipfreedman615 4 года назад +5

    I have just tried combining a slow immersion (8 minutes like James Hoffman recommends for a French press) on the Clever Dripper and got a nice full flavoured clear brew.

    • @yeid44
      @yeid44 4 года назад +1

      interesting, so you add coffee 1st then pour water aggressively, wait 4mins, break the crust, wait 4 mins then decant?

    • @philipfreedman615
      @philipfreedman615 4 года назад

      @@yeid44 yes it’s worth trying

    • @KrazyShark
      @KrazyShark 3 года назад

      i might try that, the coffee is super hot anyways when you decant after 2 mins only so can't even sip it, waiting more shouldn't hurt

  • @gscottfuller
    @gscottfuller 2 года назад

    Excellent tips on the Clever! Thank you.

  • @backpackingcapebreton
    @backpackingcapebreton 6 дней назад

    My problem with the water-first method is that, in my experiments, adding water fresh off the boil, then taking the temp reading after adding it, I can never get a water temp higher than 93°C. A lot of heat is lost just pouring the water into the Dripper.

  • @kwasnakawa
    @kwasnakawa 3 года назад +2

    my fav coffee method! thanks

  • @pistacho.cerrao
    @pistacho.cerrao 4 года назад +2

    This recipe has been my go to lately! Delicious! Thanks!!

  • @erthaldop
    @erthaldop 4 года назад +3

    instant like and subscribe for the clever girl song haha cheers and thanks for the great vid

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +1

      James actually plays guitar in the band - it was marriage too perfect to resist.

    • @joelraivid5581
      @joelraivid5581 4 года назад +1

      @@workshopcoffee9001 what grind size on the wilfa uniform was James using?

    • @erthaldop
      @erthaldop 4 года назад

      @@workshopcoffee9001 for real?! that's amazing! I actually found out Clever Girl in the pandemic times, really great music...and now also great coffee

    • @shimmyjimmy88
      @shimmyjimmy88 4 года назад +1

      @@erthaldop So glad you like it! Clever Girl band practices are always fuelled by good coffee (and maybe a few beers later on)

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +3

      @@joelraivid5581 Hi Joel - as a starting point, try 24.

  • @rsanchez9865
    @rsanchez9865 3 года назад +2

    JH recommend your vid, thanks for the info

  • @simkool77
    @simkool77 2 года назад +1

    I usually brew Clever with 400ml, and do not like adding the dose of coffee so close to the top of Clever & stirring. Clever suggested, and I tried, half the water (200ml) first, then adding the ground coffee, then pouring the remaining half (200ml), this method seems to produce the same result of faster drawdown and no stalling. Also "official" Clever paper (Japan) seems to drawdown significantly faster than, eg, Filtropa.

  • @youViewerify
    @youViewerify 4 года назад

    Another Clever user helped by this here, thank you! Draining works much better now. The only thing I've added is that i start with a quick bop on the mug (about 20g of water gets out) that I discard. That way you don’t dilute the coffee with the water that has been sitting below the filter.

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +11

      That makes sense as the initial part of the brew is much more watery, but an interesting experiment is to keep it to one side and taste your coffee without it, then reintroduce it to the drink. We wouldn’t be surprised if you preferred the cup with this initial portion in there. Whilst it might not be as strong, those flavours that first dissolve from your coffee grounds do play an important role in overall cup profile and flavour balance. We run a similar experiment training our baristas to make espresso, catching the first few drops in a cup before running the rest of the shot into a second vessel. Whilst they taste terrible by themselves they round out the cup profile dramatically.

    • @youViewerify
      @youViewerify 4 года назад +1

      @@workshopcoffee9001 Interesting! Tried it out and it did seem to taste better, but I think I’ll need to do some blind testing. Seems counter intuitive, since for an espresso the first water has at least gone through the grounds, but this water has been on the other side of a filter.
      Anyway, thank you for taking the time do give me such a thoughtful answer, much appreciated!

  • @thru_and_thru
    @thru_and_thru 2 года назад +1

    Would you ever do this with lower water temperature than boiling? Just wondering why boiling is recommended? Thanks so much!

  • @tomhester3770
    @tomhester3770 2 года назад +1

    I have used your video for my new clever dripper and to also say thanks for making it so accessible. I do have one question-I have a Baratza Encore as my grinder. Do you have a suggested setting as I do not know what size is caster?

  • @paulsingh9043
    @paulsingh9043 3 года назад +1

    I need me one of these !!!!

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад

      Right this way: workshopcoffee.com/collections/hardware/products/clever-dripper

  • @AnthonyCenname
    @AnthonyCenname 11 дней назад

    Any tips on clicks for a timemore chestnut c2?

  • @rykmax
    @rykmax 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video. Did I understand correctly that in 2 minutes you mix it once again, breaking the crust, and one minute later drain it? I understand that in 3 minutes you put the funnel on the server. Is that correct?

  • @GeraldPost
    @GeraldPost 2 года назад

    How does one make 2 mugs (ceramic, not see-through) of coffee with a Clever dripper and minimal other stuff? All videos conveniently show one mug/cup only.

  • @naomipanter
    @naomipanter 7 месяцев назад

    Would anyone know the clicks on accommodate for this kind of technique?

  • @tomhester3770
    @tomhester3770 2 года назад

    I have recently acquired a clever dripper and really like it. I have a question regarding the drawdown time. The drawdown takes longer than a minute and more likely longer than a minute and a half. Any suggestions? Change the grind perhaps? Not sure what to do.

  • @chiefflyingowl
    @chiefflyingowl 3 года назад

    Valuable video. One question: when you pre-pour the water and drain it, a little plain water remains above the ball stopper, between the stopper and the bottom of the filter paper. Do you find this has any impact on the result? What about briefly releasing that water first and discarding it, then continuing with the draw down? Thanks!

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад

      We’ve never found this phenomenon to have a noticeably negative effect on the resulting cup. You could absolutely try draining it off and then getting two cups, adding half of the diluted brew you drained off into one, and then pouring half of the strong brewed coffee into the two cups, muddle them up and see if you can taste the difference. It would likely make more of a difference if you were brewing very small doses, say 12g coffee to 200g water.

    • @chiefflyingowl
      @chiefflyingowl 3 года назад

      @@workshopcoffee9001 Thanks for your thoughtful reply, James. Your videos are really engaging, informative and downright delightful. I do find the Clever makes a really tasty cup and it's one of my favorite methods. In terms of water first or last, for myself I've found that if I wet the filter and drain quickly before I add the coffee grounds (medium-fine), and then add the grounds right away, the filter doesn't clog at all and it drains through at a good clip. But if I wet the filter too early, and it sits wet for a minute or two, it tends to clog. Perhaps the paper swells a bit and clogs the pores if it sits wet too long. The water-first method you advise certainly works well, though I find that the coffee-first method seems to retain heat a bit better, which I appreciate. Thanks again for your response, and for sharing your experience and wisdom.

  • @StevenBanks123
    @StevenBanks123 3 года назад +1

    This is a great method. Thanks. The post-decant stir is completely unnecessary.

    • @BuffoonsBuffet
      @BuffoonsBuffet 2 года назад

      activated water....Activated coffee!

  • @petertr2000
    @petertr2000 3 года назад +1

    Have you noticed that your rince water doesn't actually pour out fully unless you tip the clever and pour it out of the top? That rince water goes into your final cup every time. Only a spoonfull of course, but still...

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +2

      Hi Peter - we most definitely have. Some water will likely be retained around the valve. Tipping the brewer upside down is the easiest way to ensure you won't have any taint from the rinse water, as marginal as this might be.
      If you're looking to go a few steps further, you could always try both ways and taste them blind in a triangulation taste test to see if it genuinely makes a difference.

  • @mathiasb9928
    @mathiasb9928 3 года назад

    Thanks so much for your video and recipe! Just a little question, as I'm already afraid by all the coffee equipment I have in my kitchen, I was wondering : do you think that this clever dripper could also be used as a typical V60 Dripper if engaged on the support from the beginning of the brew in order to let the water flows at the start of the brew ? A way to Kill 2 birds with one stone with one single equipment and having one accessory fitting 2 brew methods (Classical percolation dripper AND clever dripper with immersion + percolation? This way I could make classical V60 recipes on this one or the opening is just too big ? Thanks in advance

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +2

      Great question, Mathias. We haven’t done a whole lot of testing using the Clever Dripper as a standard pourover brewer, but it should perform very well - other pourovers with similar shape and dimensions like the Melitta and Bee House dripper work great for pourover.
      We would advise removing the stopper plug entirely for this approach and ensuring your grind is suited to allow a nice flow through the coffee. You might be best off using a pouring kettle for pourover coffee and a regular kettle for our Clever Dripper technique, but if you’re already filling up on coffee equipment this isn’t exactly necessary - see our video on brewing without scales or a pourover kettle for a little more on that: ruclips.net/video/KBhZS_8enQ4/видео.html

    • @mathiasb9928
      @mathiasb9928 3 года назад +1

      @@workshopcoffee9001 Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my question : I'll definitely take the time to investigate on this ! All the best for your channel and thanks again :)

  • @RealBonk
    @RealBonk 3 года назад

    Idk if your shop has gotten a hold of the Hario Switch, but would your water first then coffee grounds method work to speed up the draw down? I ordered one on eBay, so I'll edit this when I get a chance to test later.

  • @rickbo3366
    @rickbo3366 2 года назад

    What grind setting on an Encore would you recommend for this method?

  • @GlennKarlsenCurlyfied
    @GlennKarlsenCurlyfied 3 года назад +1

    Nice video! 😊
    Just as a reference ; How many clicks did you use on the commandant that brew?

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +5

      Hi Glenn - thanks for watching. For Clever Dripper, using 19g coffee to 300g water brewed for 2 minutes, we'd suggest trying 24 clicks as a jumping off point.

    • @GlennKarlsenCurlyfied
      @GlennKarlsenCurlyfied 3 года назад +1

      @@workshopcoffee9001 thanks a bunch! 😊

  • @sevenoveronehundred
    @sevenoveronehundred 3 года назад +1

    Hi! Would you use this to make cold brew? 😊

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +3

      Good question. Most filter methods can be adapted to make a version of cold coffee. We would recommend creating a concentrated hot brew and strain it over ice to dilute down and flash cool, which is way faster and won’t carry any oxidised taste.
      But if you specifically wanted cold brew style coffee you could definitely steep in this overnight with cold water and strain the next day. We’d advise a medium-coarse grind (don’t go super flaky coarse like most cold brew guides recommend) and use an 80g per litre ratio, and then cover the surface with cling film to reduce the contact with air whilst it sits and steeps.

  • @tomhester3770
    @tomhester3770 2 года назад

    What was the coffee used in this video?

  • @shirazkasim1230
    @shirazkasim1230 3 года назад +1

    Imwhat is the main difference between a clever dripper and a v60 ?

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +2

      Hi Shiraz - thanks for asking and great question. The main difference is the type of brewing, Clever Dripper being an immersion brewer and a V60 being a drip brewer.
      The Clever Dripper houses the coffee and water together to steep and extract in one go, before filtering out when you drain it.
      The V60 houses the grounds and once water is added the brew slurry drains out as you go, meaning you can add fresh water all the while.
      TLDR: Clever Dripper gives coffee a bath, V60 gives it a shower!

  • @soonah88
    @soonah88 2 года назад

    Every time i get really watery coffee!! What am I doing wrong

  • @samks2000
    @samks2000 4 года назад

    I have used this method and tried different grind sizes. My coffee still tastes sour. I have ground very fine too but can’t get rid of the sour taste. My coffee is Edido light roast.

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +1

      Sorry to hear that. If you want to reduce sourness and you're experiencing it with all variations of grind and temperature with this coffee then it probably isn't to your tastes.
      We'd recommend trying something at a medium roast level or from a different origin. A light roast Ethiopian coffee will be far more prone to tasting high in acidity, which is ideal for some drinkers but others prefer less acidity.

    • @samks2000
      @samks2000 3 года назад

      @@workshopcoffee9001 I should taste some sweetness though. I managed to get another light roast and trying to dial that in. I have managed to reduce the sourness but now unable to get rid of the bitterness. I think its down to my grinder producing too many fines. I have a Sage Smart Grinder Pro.

    • @samks2000
      @samks2000 3 года назад

      @@workshopcoffee9001 My draw down time is now 35 seconds. Still there is some bitterness and no sweetness. The acidity is ok.

    • @jackmcgonigle9156
      @jackmcgonigle9156 3 года назад

      Try a coarse grind and steeping for 4 minutes with light stirring every 30-45 seconds. That's what works for me.

  • @joelraivid5581
    @joelraivid5581 3 года назад +2

    Any tip on grind size for comandante for this method?

  • @goocher25
    @goocher25 4 года назад

    Generally I use water around 200 degrees. So with using 220 degree, that doesn’t burn it?

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +1

      Hi Jason - you can use boiling water and not worry about burning the coffee.

    • @benjohnmiller
      @benjohnmiller 3 года назад

      By the time the boiling water hits the Clever, and the Clever thieves some of the heat, and by the time you've slid your coffee in, you can bet that water will more of less be at the perfect temperature.

  • @ashlben
    @ashlben 4 года назад

    What setting are you using on the wilfa uniform grinder for this brew please?

    • @Xethian
      @Xethian 3 года назад

      @@ringtangting Same here, if the Wilfa was at the setting in the video it looks like 30 to me, perhaps surprisingly coarse?

  • @bowieknife
    @bowieknife 4 года назад +4

    How many clicks on the Comandante?

    • @bowieknife
      @bowieknife 4 года назад +1

      @@OleksandrManzyuk thank you! I'll try that.

  • @debbiewofford7021
    @debbiewofford7021 2 года назад

    What is D W T?

  • @UsernameDefault101
    @UsernameDefault101 3 года назад

    How many clicks on a timemore c2 grinder?

  • @brindlebeard
    @brindlebeard 4 года назад

    Is that the small or large Clever Dripper?

    • @adamthemute
      @adamthemute 4 года назад +4

      That's the large one, max 500ml with #4 filters

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, Adam - that's correct Ulrich.

  • @onixtheone
    @onixtheone 3 года назад +1

    aww man it's sold out :(

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад +2

      We're working on getting more stock with us, Onix, so be sure to keep an eye out.

  • @rekor
    @rekor 3 года назад

    Ali-G?

  • @garycomp6494
    @garycomp6494 2 года назад

    What grind setting would you use on the wilfa svart aroma for 300mil and 500mil water please

  • @benjohnmiller
    @benjohnmiller 3 года назад

    James, if you pop that radiator on behind you, you won't have to wear that woolly hat indoors 😛

    • @workshopcoffee9001
      @workshopcoffee9001  3 года назад

      Thanks for the tip, Ben!

    • @benjohnmiller
      @benjohnmiller 3 года назад

      @@workshopcoffee9001 😂
      Great technique, though. Thanks for sharing.
      I see this technique has annoyingly become known as 'The James Hoffman Method' despite you being the inventor. I know he gave you a shout-out in his video, but it really annoys me when I see people raving about the James Hoffman Clever Dripper method. So much so whenever I see someone call it that on forums etc, I politely correct them and link them to your video 😂.
      Best wishes.

  • @Matasky2010
    @Matasky2010 2 года назад

    19g, not 20g lol.

  • @7531monkey
    @7531monkey 11 месяцев назад

    Always tasted like plastic.