Ranking Viltrumites From Weakest To Strongest
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Ranking Viltrumites From Weakest To Strongest! If you have seen Invincible, you might know that the Viltrumites are one of, if not the strongest alien race in the cosmos, but when it comes to finding out which one is superior amongst all of them, that does get a bit tricky! So, how strong is Thragg? How powerful and mighty is Omni-Man? Does Mark Grayson AKA Invincible, have the most potential, or are there other Viltrumites who had even more than the titular character? I go over the comics to find out the answer!
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As some of you pointed it out, it turns out King Argall was killed by Thaedus after he stabbed him in the head from behind, so they likely didn't fight directly. I forgot about this honestly!
Thanks so much for watching!
Regarding Thula and Conquest. Thula was not in the first Viltrumite fight in the comics, and it's possible that the show changes scaling from comics. And I said in the video that I would have given Conquest a higher spot if he had both hands. He is definitely stronger than most other Viltrumites and is more experienced, but his combat effectiveness is not as great. Big reason he lost to Mark despite being far weaker than he was in the fight against Thragg was because he couldn't fight as efficiently and this allowed Mark to get hits easier. At worst he's better than Lucan, Vidor, Thula, Anissa, and Kregg depending on the arguments. But at best he'd still be below Allen, Battle Beast, Omni-Man, Mark, and Thragg.
Hoping for more MCU content down the line.
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Considering Mark is pretty much an infant compared to the viltrumites who had been fighting for thousands of years, Mark has a lot of potential to be the strongest viltrumite.
Big facts!!
Ehh, I disagree. Viltrumites grow slower as they get older, so Mark's growth is not gonna hold up. Even if every time Mark fights a strong character they mention how he's gotten stronger that's just because he only recently got his powers. Oliver's growth is huge between him as a toddler and him as a teenager, but then he barely grows in power after the 5-year time skip to the point where he's pretty much still weaker than Mark. Oliver can barely hold back Thragg for two seconds before Thragg disembowels him whereas Mark held his own against Thragg before Thragg mollywopped him aswell and forced Eve to use her god mode. Mark is still the strongest viltrumite tho.
@@moontruther7519 Oliver is half-thraxan. They are weaker than other half-breeds because of how fast they age. Viltrumite gain strength as they get older so Oliver ain’t that strong compared to most viltrumites since he’s technically less than 10 years old.
Also, Mark is just a beast. Dude has the willpower to keep going even when fighting on the goddamn sun lmfao
yes, at the beginning of the series he is only 17 years old. What is 17 years for someone who has lived for thousands of years?
Yeah but after the time skip mark says he's nowhere near the strongest, he's definitely up there but no the strongest
I'd definitely say Marky probably has the most potential. He seems to be younger when his powers kicked in giving him more time to practice with them
Yep He was a straight up prodigy for his age. If a Vultrumite lives for Thousands of years Mark did all that fighting while being a kid. Marks son might even be stronger.
It’s makes total sense being that he’s literally 3/4 vilturimte. He probably has more potential then mark.
@@picassojulien899 it doesn't work like that. Viltrumites born from human are like a full 99% viltrumite because viltrumate's blood is "stronger" so it takes over others. The 1% is a boost because you see in comics that marks when enraged gets a boost for adrenaline while full viltrumites doesn't, like happened to omniman. In the end Mark, Marky and Terra have the same blood and the same boost from adrenaline. For me mark is the strongest at the end of the show and we assume he is stronger and has more potential than marky and terra because we don't have any feat from these two.
@Supreme King so you did see in the comics the fight between marky and mark? Wow you should show us how you did it so we can too. Anycase do you really believe Mark would ever try to just beat the hell out of his son or ever try to kill him? Lol. They just show us one two pages in which marky says that tried to kill mark and mark who says that they will need time to recover their relationship. You don't see the fight and how that did go, so you didn't see if mark was fighting for real(impossible), you just see that mark made marky undestand without really hurting him(just following his everlasting ideals, now viltrumite's way).
timeskip mark is like timeskip gt goku, we don’t know how strong they got but it must be ridiculous
I think Conquest is waaaaaay too low on this list. They put him on pedestal multiple times in the story, the fact that Mark beat him is viewed as something incredible. That was part of the foreshadowing that gave Anissa a hard on for Mark. I’m mean his name was Conquest cause he never failed.
Not to mention the fact that he didn't die, even after Eve blasted his skin off
@@sihlematloha2787 I mean, Rage Eve can obliterates the most of every Viltrumite of this list
He only lost the fight with Mark because of Eve blasting his skin off and buffing Mark into rage that let him barely get the advantage on Conquest. The 2nd fight Mark recognized he couldn't outright beat Conquest and so he held onto his neck until Conquest suffocated, but with a few punches Conquest was able to gut Mark. I'd say he's too low on this list.
He's too low, he's the second strongest viltrumite to me based on the comics (the fight with mark and eve + nolan saying to mark "even conquest fears thragg" (which on itself puts him easily on the top 5 of pure-blooded viltrumites)
Also don't really see who could be between him and thragg within the surviving viltrumites from the scourge virus
If he had both hands we would be 3rd or 4th at the list prob
I would argue you put conquest way too low on the list. He was slain pretty early on but none of the viltrimites other than mark, Nolan, and debatably Thragg got any stronger. He should still be above the majority of them. I get why you assume Kregg is stronger but I think Conquests reliability as an eliminator kept him as such, and Kregg was more reliable as a general.
Mark went from barely beating conquest to throwing hands with thragg he most definitely got stronger
It's not debatable that Thragg is stronger than Conquest because it was literally stated Thragg was the strongest Viltrumite. I think it's debatable whether Conquest is stronger than Omni man though because both of them are weaker than Mark and Thragg. Kregg is definitely not stronger than Conquest I'd say because Conquest was renowned to be a top warrior with potentially 10's of thousands of years of experience.
@@controlman7490 no one argued Thragg was weaker. In fact he remained the stronger til his death. At the beginning, before omniman got any power boosts, Conquest was likely stronger.
@@Small_child_punter I never said someone argued Thragg was weaker lol. I was just trying to arrange the Viltrumites in terms of their power set. I don't recall Omni man getting any significant power boosts, he's had the same level of power since the beginning of the comic. Conquest got killed by a post-Invincible war Mark who I'm not even sure was stronger than Omni man completely, so that could potentially mean Conquest was below Omni man in terms of physical power, but not definitively.
@@controlman7490 Omniman definitely got stronger during the series. How he did against Thrag is a good indicator of that .
The more invincible content you do the bigger my love for the series grows. Seriously I know a lot of people have already said this but every time Chuck uploads something it’s a blessing.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
I dont really think Ursaal had more potential than Mark. Really just comes down to a large difference in how they were raised. Mark very rarely had to push himself to his limits until the other viltrumites came. He didn't even truly try to defeat Nolan.
Ursaal though very likely was brought up and raised as a warrior and was born for the war due to Thragg. She would have constantly been training as soon as she was old enough to walk.
@Liqiye who said it was meant to be a hot take?
Plus Ursaal is Thraxan-Viltrumite, surely that would have an effect on her power levels considering how it affected Oliver. Could Ursaal even live past 1000 years? (Omni man did say Oliver would only like for a couple hundred years but I'm gonja give Ursaal the benefit of the doubt ig?)
Yeah, I agree. I'd say Mark definitely has more potential than her. And if one wants to take the DNA route, humans were more alike and compatible than any other species in the galaxy. Wouldn't be surprised if that played a part.
@@Moon_in_Flames Omni-man was never certain how long they could live for since Oliver’s aging rapidly decreased as he got older
Yeah, the Ursaal ranking is cap.
I wish we got to saw how powerful Emperor Mark was. I really hope the show puts his power on display when it gets to that point
I hope they continue that series, I kinda relate to marks son whom mark fought
@@MrAHole-kl4cn not only that they’d have to give him the Naruto treatment where they nerf him or make the next villains so much storming we that it would make 0 sense
In the end of the series we see Battle Beasts daughter fight against the viltrimites, is she scales to Battle Beast then Mark would probably be the only person who could’ve beaten her.
So you could argue he’s stronger than Battle Beast, although this is admittedly a stretch.
@@KangarooMonkey Yoo I hope she has comic issues in the future, battle beast and Allen the alien are my favourites
They can certainly continue it or put some battles before the ending.
Don’t necessarily agree with Conquest’s ranking but other than that I find this list very agreeable. Conquest was known as an eliminator and everyone thought it was unbelievable when they learned Mark had killed him. Conquest was also the oldest and most battle worn viltrumite we saw in the series which means a lot of zenkai boosts. Also he didn’t lose an arm to the virus but to Rognarrs. A nearly indestructible race of alien monsters capable of killing viltrumites
As a note, Thraxan(the mantis people)-viltrumite hybrids are only weaker until they hit a certain age, same with human-viltrumite hybrids. Viltrumite DNA is so powerful and weird that it kind of takes over as the hybrid ages, until they are indistinguishable from a pure blooded viltrumite. This was outright stated to Mark at one point and can be seen in Thraxan hybrids by the changing of their skin tone.
Human DNA is extremely similar and compatible to Viltrumite, so it is unfair to compare Thraxan hybrids with Human hybrids. Despite being a very dominant DNA, the Viltrumite DNA is still somewhat affected by the recessive DNA of the Thraxan people, so potentially, they are still weaker.
That’s pretty much how every alien-human hybrid works in tv shows and comics lol
@@limitlesssky3050 They are only weaker by the fact that to be as strong as purer viltrumites it takes them more time.
@@MOMO-436 and thraxan hybrids cant live that long to develop like that
@@CloroxBleach-qy7vy they can? Did you pay attention to the comics? Loads of Thraxan hybrids were alive after the 500 year time skip. Viltrumite dna automatically gives any species they cross with longevity.
I would say battle beast is more than a bit stronger than thragg, thragg got wounded fighting off the creatures sent to kill him but battle beast didn't, then battle beast proceeds to rip out his own guts (definitely more damage than what thragg received) and still fought evenly with him
No that's wrong stop with that dumb narrative they both were wounded and weakend thragg was just the better beast that day and won fair and square battle beast did that to even the odds Bec he would have slapped thragg if it were not for that Bec thragg was weakened he wanted to even the odds
@@theblackmaninadamcousersso6146 no Battle Beast overall was stronger lol, like even aside from the fact that Battle Beast came off unscathed vs Rognarr compared to Thragg, Battle Beast was able to go hand to hand for days against Thragg while inflicting the same wound that Thragg received when fighting the group of Rognarrs. He did this while UNARMED because he wanted the fight to be honorable, fair, and glorious so he gave himself a double handicap and still BARELY lost against a battle that lasted for days on end with seemingly no breaks lol. (Not to mention Thragg being a Viltrumite made him biologically more superior compared Battle Beast which could have played a key from their long battle via like stamina and regenerative capabilities but that may be irrelevant in the grand scheme)
@@SageTKYO bro you literally just proved my point even more battle beast is not stronger than thragg and the fight between them proved it and there is no specs or interview or any research or calcs that have said or showed that battle beast is stronger than thragg.. so let me debunk you real fast with your own words.." battle beast didn't fight with his weapon which handicapped him" ok so your technically saying right there that battle beast needed his weapon to defeat thragg where as thraggs only weapons would have been his hands last I checked...battle beats didn't use his weapon Bec it wouldnt been fair or honorable any real warrior doesn't need weapons to slap ppl... As seen by battle beast Bec he could actually throw hands and gave thragg a actual run for his money in straight hand to hand combat but at the end of the day thragg was just the better warrior in hand to hand combat than battle beast now if battle beast had his weapon then ofcourse he would have more likely than none beat thragg but again that's just opinion thragg would obviously still stand a chance tho with battle beats weapon in hand since he had proven he was superior to him in hand to hand combat and strength and durability but again it's a weapon so it's not a sure way to say he would win against battle beast with said weapon in hand but none the less he would stand a chance even with battle beast having his weapon get off his meat and stop wanking him with headcanon non sense also as it says in the vid and was said in comics ever viltrumite gets stronger or can make them self stronger by pushing there body to the upmost limit of things which while battling battle beast he wasn't getting stronger as the fight prolonged and if the fight went longer eventually thragg would have beat him period bec his body is getting stronger and adapting the viltrumite are more so comparable to saiyans rather than Kryptonian if you will... So no stop the B's..💯👌
Agreed, Battle Beast would have killed Thragg if they were both at 100%, he's was on a higher tier than any Viltrumites.
@@theblackmaninadamcousersso6146 bro what 😭😭😭? This made no sense at all because Battle Beast always fights with his weapons and I’m saying that he lost because he not only crippled himself by throwing away his weapons which would make him weaker but also the fact that he gave himself a wound just to even the odds, sure Thragg can have a minuscule advantage in hand-to-hand over Battle Beast but if anything it makes it worst that Battle Beast has to WEAKEN himself by dropping down a piece of him that makes him truly powerful and Thragg BARELY won at that. Overall in a normal confrontation where Thragg was never wounded by Rognarr and Battle Beast fought at his hardest, Battle Beast would have ultimately been the winner (with high difficulty ofc). Battle Beast’s main way of fighting is his use of weapons via his sword and hammer and though he has good hand to hand he’s crippling himself by losing his sword and hammer which is also extremely powerful since that sword can cut and kill fucking viltrumites and rognarr (same creatures that can fuck up Thragg) so just associating them as like petty weapons that wouldn’t change a thing is underestimating the damage the sword can do. None of this is opinion because you go by what we know instead of how we feel which is Battle Beast handicapped himself just to end up barely lose against Thragg and Thragg has like a healing factor and has more stamina than Battle Beast and still got his ass kicked by a nigga who dropped his weapons for the fun of it. It makes Thragg look worst if anything since he won against a dude who let himself have a harder time fighting under the conditions of a critical injury in 😭
I think Mark saying he could’ve fought harder against her wasn’t because he didn’t want to hurt her and more of a “it was my fault” type mindset common with other victims that deal with that sort of thing
So are we actually talking about him being raped by this woman?
@Supreme King yes. I think Mark and Anissa had the same level in that moment
I think kregg defied Defied orders less because he didn’t fear getting torn a new one, but more cause he was that desperate to save his baby mama. I’m fairly confident Conquest could beat kregg and the others as long as he doesn’t do that “play with your prey” shtick he always does with invincible. Thats always been conquest’s main screw up. Not taking things seriously until its too late.
Yeah but Conquest was stupid enough to do that a second time with invincible, after losing the first time and knowing the second time invincible had more allies and potential help. So that was terminally stupid of him. And to say he wouldn't pull that shit is probably out of Character, if he was that overconfident against someone who'd literally beaten him before
@@agentchaos9332 oh no question about that. But the video asks about strength. Not tactical efficiency or who would consistently win against who. Invimcible seemed to get away with beating people stronger than him quite a lot given the right conditions.
*baby mamas
Saiyans and Viltrumites are kind of similar. but there power growth is different. Saiyans get stronger just by getting there bodies beaten up and much more if they're near death. Viltumites have to push all the way to there limit to gain more power. one thing they both have in common. there aging doesn't cut there power growth. if they ever cross breed. well...say goodbye to every universe.
Is the hulk similar to Saiyans? Because comics wise he’s on par with Thor or slightly weaker? He’s not really explained like viltrumites are
@@moonknight4053 well his rage limit does break that's for sure. but I don't count that as a power growth. because anyone can be stronger when mad and faster when scared.
saiyans are evidently stronger. so if they ever cross breed, it would be a downgrade tbh
@@idrisshah1978 say that to the saiyan half breeds. XD besides Vitltrumites are trained once there power show. reason why human half breeds are always stronger than a full blood because of writing and plot armor. you can bit in reality. saiyans and viltrumites cross breeding is the best bet. at lest both can actually improve in fighting. all the human half breeds are slow just like how slow a full blood human can really be.
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I mean it’s Mark right? Human-Viltrumite hybrids seem stronger than pure bloods because the human part makes them progress faster. When Mark was lifting the magnetic bench press he literally felt himself getting stronger during his exercise sessions. By the end of the comic Mark is beating up on Allen who’s gotten like three big boosts throughout the series and was pretty much the strongest being in the universe other than Thragg.
Battlebeast was higher than thragg and probably allen
@@mattjennings4921 battle beast lost to thragg, he even stated cutting his stomach made it “fair “ you can’t argue it’s literally on the pages bro
@@fin3642 Exactly. The only argument that could be made is that Battlebeast threw away his weapons. But even then, it means it’s not an even fight.
Mark would be alot weaker than he is without Eve, remember she regenerated him twice and while I am not sure on the first time, on the second she did say she made him a bit better than he was so who knows how much his strength increased from that.
Even then he got manhandled by Thragg and still needed to fight him on/in the surface of a star and Robot giving him a suit mid battle to help him win.
@@WizelBalan We never see Allen in his prime against Thragg, which is a fight I’d like to see, nor do we see Mark at his strongest fight Thragg. Eve definitely boosted Mark considerably, because he was taking solid hits from Thragg instead of being gibbed like everyone else who gets punched by him, but that still counts towards Mark’s power level. I dunno, Mark beats Thragg in his mid-20’s with the help of a V-killer suit and and a sun bath, by the end of the series he’s in his 520’s and considerably larger. I still think he’s the strongest in the universe at that point.
I would put Conquest much higher. Like below Omni-Man. Battle Beast would be 3rd, Thragg would be 2nd and Mark would be the strongest Viltrumite. That's just my opinion though
@@MrAHole-kl4cn he was injured as much as Thragg was….even though it was self cause d injury
Conquest isn’t above Omni man , Omni man is at least in the top 5
Thragg is the strongest thrag literally needed to be team’d to be defeated mark could not win through a 1v1
@@davidt6814 Battle Beast had blood spilling sex with his woman before the fight, ripped out his own guts and fought without his weapons, im PRETTY sure he’d beat Thragg if they both were at 100%.
@@XangoFwet how exactly if both injured Thragg was still able to win….
Who is the strongest Viltramite Chuck??
Chuck: "Battle beast wins"
He's not a Viltramite!
Chuck: "I'm sorry what was the question??"
Ive always seen Conquest as far more powerful than anyone else except Thragg
That's fair!
So you put Conquest above Battle Beast & Allen?
@@sihlematloha2787 he loses to battle beast and I'm not sure about about Allen but I was talking specifically about viltrumites. I dont think anyone is as strong as conquest except for Thragg and peak Mark
@@sihlematloha2787 he loses to battle beast and I'm not sure about about Allen but I was talking specifically about viltrumites. I dont think anyone is as strong as conquest except for Thragg and peak Mark
@@acusticarcher4677 Nolan literally has better feats and statements. So uou forgot to add Nolan to your list.
Adult mark was able to easily defeat a older and probably more powerful Allen the alien with seemingly no damage . So that’s one feat for adult mark after timeskip
I just wish we could have gotten more of a clear metric as to just how strong Viltrumite Emperor Mark is at the end of the story. It's just hard because of the obvious fact that most of the others were long dead by that point.
He's way stronger than both Omni man, Conquest, Allen(for now), and potentially Thragg. That makes Mark 1 of the most dangerous beings in the universe. In terms of his power level, he could easily eradicate an entire planet in a few seconds and could probably destroy a moon or a small dwarf planet.
I mean 100 years later after the defeat of Thragg its safe to say that he got stronger than him in that time or at the very least possibly stronger than Battle Beast.
Yeah, really the only thing he has is beating Allen.
@@Chuck As well as that one statement from that random alien king who attacked him that Mark could conquer the known universe by himself. I do think it's clear just narratively that Mark ends up being the strongest Viltrumite that ever lived.
@@Acceleration50 it was closer to 500 years later lol he is easily the most powerful character in the universe at that point at least physically anyway
I hope Season 2 of Invincible has more episodes and longer episodes. Also I want the series to breath and to see the repercussions of Omni-Man's actions. I want to see grieving families, repairing the damages to the cities, more action, more villains and heroes, and more lore
I can't wait for the Invincible war!
I would love to see them make some spin-off series like "The Astounding Wolf Man" or "Tech jacket". There is just so much potential for greatness
It’s thragg
@@sihlematloha2787That would be cool to see a techjacket spinoff
I hope they get rid of Amber
You forgot Lucan; he subdued Nolan Grayson and his strength was somewhere between Thragg and Nolan.
oh yeah and he was carrying his intestines with him - dude was hardcore as fuck
I may be wrong but didn’t he ambush Omni man after he had been beaten and Nolan had beaten 2 other viltrumites?
@@hrothgr52 He did, but Nolan initiated the first ambush when Lucan was going after Mark.
When Conquest came back, Lucan and other viltrumites came with him. Allen and Omni-Man stayed behind to fight them while Mark dealt with Conquest, and Nolan kicked Lucan's ass.
I’m loving these uploads
Glad you're enjoying them!
I stopped watching as soon as I saw you put conquest as the 2nd weakest 😂
Im glad you gave Thula some praise. I thought she was a pretty cool character and could rock with the best of them.
You're welcome!
Dude Chuck. Loving this consistent upload speed and quality. And as promised to those who saw on the community tab. I gotta request an scp vs invincible video. If u can my man.
Maybe at some point, thanks for the view!
I cannot express how much immense respect I have for you Chuck, your output and quality are so incredible! Big inspiration comes from all the work you do, keep it up!
Thanks again!
Nothing like a good ole Chuck Ranking Video to brighten my day!
Hope it did!
One thing that I think makes Mark the strongest is not only his strength, but his leadership abilities. He completely changed not only the Viltrumites but the universe by the end of the series. Thragg could never lead like him.
I feel like mark saying he could have fought harder against anissa was a way of relating to many other victims that feel the same and blame themselves even though they shouldn’t
Im so excited to see next weeks episode now. Thanks for this info!
Conquest being next to Oliver is absolutely nuts
I love the male viltrumite mustache thing, it's an easy cultural thing to give to a humanoid race that looks badass, is instantly recognizable and iconic
Mark is the strongest *atleast* by his will power and moral principles. He didn't only manage to make his father betray his own race, but he also destroyed Thragg's empire and became a respectable and strong leader of viltrumites.
Lots of thought went into this video. Well done
Just you wait till he sees inviceable season 2
Sick video chuck I agree with your list seems pretty simple and reasonable. Also you should do a video on xeno goku black or I guess heroes goku black idk. Be pretty cool to see his scaling
man that panel where mark fights markus makes me want a series that expands on the years between thraggs death and the end of the series
thragg looks like freddy mercury in a way
I would put Conquest on par with Ursaal because Mark barely even beat him at all and was clearly far weaker at the time.
Ur power scaling vids are awesome
Glad you think so, much appreciated!!
Mark may get his ass kicked multiple times, but he always wins when it matters the most.
i like how chuck actually reads and reply to the comments, btw nice video man
Thanks for watching!!
ursaal is a good pick but I think its also important to note that marks insane willpower allowed him to overcome vast power differences by allowing him to keep on swinging even when his body is practically destroyed such as when conquest broke nearly all marks limbs and mark still won, or when mark defeated thraag by forcing him to stay on a star
Mark would definitely be a tremendous green lantern
@@AmazingSpider-Man he would be the most op one
I'd say that Mark was the most powerful at the end of the series hands down, and that Terra and Markus had the the most potential. No disrespect to Ursaal. She's basically a more aggro Oliver who went farther and did way more; but I think her Mantis biology would have ultimately hampered her powers the more time went on.
Terra definitely has great potential, and should she ever unlock powers similar to that of Eve's, she would undoubtedly become the most powerful being in the Invincible universe. Her Viltrumite genes give her already incredible longevity, but Eve's powers would literally make it impossible for her to die. Her body would also be physically reset to the state she was in in her prime upon her death of old age some thousands of years later, making her truly Invincible. And if she could make weapons and shields, or anything else for that matter like Eve on top of all that, she would redefine OP. That being said, even if she only had Eve's ability to come back from the dead, that would be more than enough to put her in the top spot. It could very well be that Terra has this power, but hasn't tapped into it because she was never fatally injured like Eve was in the past. That being said, without any real evidence, we can only speculate on her overall potential.
Markus could very well have more potential due to the fact that he is the child of two Viltrumites. Yes, Mark's a hybrid, but it was stated that his genetic makeup more closely resembled that of a pure Viltrumite given that humans and Viltrumites are insanely compatible and that Viltrumites possess incredibly indomitable reproductive D.N.A.; which of course makes every other hybrid born on Earth the same as Mark. Terra is no exception either, but I think Markus being even closer to a pure Viltrumite is what gave him more power from the jump. He and Terra also manifested their powers far earlier than Mark, who was a late bloomer. Although, that could be because they were exposed to higher stress situations at younger ages.
At the end of the day, I think it's a toss up between Markus and Terra in the potential department. If Terra does have even a tiny bit of Eve's power though, then she would be the strongest hands down.
Yeah you are right, however by how the story ended, i think that Marky will be the strongest viltrumite ever. I say this because in the comic Terra never had to fight or even struggle at all in all of her life as shr worked for Allen not as a fighter but as a common worker. On the other hand, Marky literally put Mark’s old costume as soon as he got his powers. Meaning that he began fighting from a young age. Plus, i think unlike Mark, he actually trained. I assume this by how when he talked with Mark he said that he tried and did his best to make Mark feel proud of him. And lastly, in the last chapter we saw how he was still a teenager but fought with Mark. Yes, you could say that he was holding back, however even so Mark was unable to Knock down Marky.
Thragg is like General Zod.
I personally think Markus might have the same level of potential Terra and Ursaal have. Markus is 3/4th Viltrumite and 1/4th Human. He managed to go on a rampage and bust up a city while still a toddler/young kid. If anything, Markus realistically could end up being one of the strongest Viltrumites due to his genetic lineage as well as pulling some Gilgamesh level heritage bullshit (2/3rds god and 1/3rd human). Terra may end up getting the same or similar powers to Eve and Ursaal is just that strong due to the fact she’s the daughter of Thragg.
I recently finished invincible’s comic about two weeks ago I started reading it after your first video on it
@@MrAHole-kl4cn true that
Hope you enjoyed it!
I think it's weird to put Conquest so low, but you do make good points as to why he's down there
Freddy Mercury is the strongest viltrumite, no doubt.
this is the best viltrumite ranking list i've seen yet.
Thank you greatly!
I’m so freaking hyped to see these guys on TV.
Thragg was trained from birth to be the strongest of his kind. This was before the purge in their species which left only the strongest.
So Mark comes along and had to battle ONLY the strongest of the viltrumites, battle beast, allen, and countless others. Honestly I’d say Mark had the better training overall and in the end he’s able to go toe to toe with thragg and he’s not even 25 years old yet. Id say by the time he’s over a hundred he’s the strongest his kind has ever seen. And they live for thousands of years.
If they havent pushed him into the sun it was over for them😂
@@jaydenwinter4647yeah but still a win is a win mark defeated and killed the most strongest viltrumite and the robot suit helped him too or else he was nearly dead
Battle beast injured himself far worse than what Thragg received before the fight began proper. If he didn't have such a high sense of honor or if they both fought without interference he most likely would've won
My boy Chuck at it again! Good shit my dude
Huge thanks for watching!
Finished all the comics yesterday, I can finally watch this
another little note i've been seeing pop up in regards to Mark is that he's a human viltrumite hybrid and humans get adrenaline which increase strength and what not, viltrumite genes are very dominant so it's believed only about 2% of mark is actually human, but him getting angry and getting adrenaline actually does make him stronger whereas a full blooded viltrumite cannot
Watching the purging scene I often wonder why viltrumites use weapons. Is there a metal in that universe that could actually damage them?
I think whatever they make their weapons out of is durable rather than innately deadly. The only reason their weapons are deadly is due to the strength of the viltrumites wielding them. I suspect a normal human using the same weapons would be unable to harm a viltrumite.
Probably made out of dense materials or fictional things like Adamantium, remember Battle beast was able to cut down Ragnarr with his weapons and they could rip apart Viltrumites easily with their claws/teeth, hell three of them almost killed Thragg. Battle beast also gutted himself with his own sword so it shows weapons can be incredibly sharp and durable without great momentum behind them.
Seems like all Viltrumites men have a mustache.
Awesome that you could fit invincible content in your Raid Shadow Legends video
with Anissa while it could be possible he could’ve fought harder i think that was just the mindset of a victim and he was shocked and guilt tripping himself
I'm nitpicking but I find funny how you said it took a sun to weaken Thragg defenses to defeat him like Mark wasn't being burn alive by the same sun as they were beating the heck out of each other inside of it and he came out alive. Like, come on bruh... Great video anyways
another banger as always
Thanks very much!
This is very informative.
Anissa lowkey bad🤔
16:40 it is impleid that Thadeus assassinated him. There is a panel where Thadeus is snuck up on him and has put a knife through his skull, so it wasn’t really a head on fight. I don’t exactly remember in which issue, but I think Thragg was retelling that story and that’s when it was shown.
Implied*
That was Mark telling his son Marky about the viltrumites
Thanks bro I was wanting to see invincible content. I’m watching it now lol.
Hope you enjoy it!
Cannot wait for season 2 of the show. Definitely need to re-read the comics at some point as well
Good God.... Terra having Viltrum DNA and Eve's uhh... IMMORTALITY, would be such a cheat code.
That's like a Saiyan hooked up to a permanent Sinzu bean/Dinde iv drip 24/7.
Season 2 is taking kind of long still.. no way they didn't know this would be successful.. and most the story is written already.... so let's go people!..
Pretty sick video chuck.
Much appreciated
Good video. I love your take on this.👍
Thank you!
@@Chuck you got it, bro!👍
Great video Chuck and keep the awesome content coming.
Huge thanks for the watch!
@@Chuck Np!
something to note about Conquest: he might have died early on but Conquest was one of the stronger Viltrumites, hence his name, as his job was to level worlds for Viltrum conquest when no one else can. Mark nearly died when be put him into a choke hold to finally kill him, and this was in round 2, where in the first fight he literally caved Conquest's face in.
The simple act of killing Conquest made other Viltrumites pause on the realization of Mark's feat, something that wasn't so easily done.
When all is said and done though, Mark earns his place as second strongest Viltrumite. Because even though he did get help, something he accounts to something Thragg would never accept, he kills Thragg. The same Viltrumite who, in a fit of rage at one point, tore Mark in half instantaneously. Eve had to literally use her power to reconstruct him (and herself) back as stronger individuals. THAT was the point where Mark was basically near his prime.
Another thing is that mark has something no other viltrumite has, adrenaline.
“You can’t just become more stronger because you’re ANGRY?!”
Invincible: Hold my human adrenaline
Okay, if Mark had the same powers as Superman, he’s wipe out the Viltrumite Empire in only a few hours!
Easily....Kryptonians are definitely above Viltrumites...especially superman
I think you put Oliver and conquest to low, Oliver was known as the strongest in the coalition besides Allen and Thragg trusted him and Conquest was feared and everyone couldn’t believe he died. Other then those I love this list
I don't recall Oliver being known for that, but he still didn't show anything impressive IMO. Conquest does have accolades, but I felt that his placement was hurt due to his arm and nature towards Thragg. Glad you liked it though!
Awesome vid chuck!
Thanks 👍
Also Ursal has superior biology when Eve rebuilt everyone she made them "better"
Upset my boy Chadquest couldn't get any higher he's still the #1 in my heart :'(
Atually, from what I've seen it seems like one of the things that makes Viltramites so strong is that their bodies don't realize their physical limitations, leading them to be able to punch with such force that if what their hitting refuses to move they will break their bodies. So Terra bot breaking her leg when she hit Frag actually seems to suggest her body does realize it's limitations, meaning it refuses to hit as hard.
Kist my two cents.
Still think conquest should be higher.
We know he survived an encounter with ragnars (and it was implied that he was weakend by the virus) and his death was a huge deal in the empire.
Yeah as I said, those standard ones could be switched around!
@@Chuck ok
I really hope we get to see more of Mark's feats. Mark is SO fucking powerful near the end that I just wish we could see him do something like what Omni-Man did to the Flaxans in episode 2.
Merry Christmas Chuck! Great stream as always.
Can you judge this argument for me? I came up with it because I was tired of people trying to downplay the Narutoverse's speed because of that *ONE* statement Zetsu made during the Sasuke and Itachi fight. If possible, can you make a video on this so we can create a meta that can finally rid of this horrendous downplay?
Argument:
1. Sentence Subject: Zetsu never says the Kirin is lightning speed. He says verbatim "The speed of lightning is 1/1000 of a second...its faster than sound!". No where in that entire quote does he mention the Kirin. He was talking about actual lightning.
2. Continuity and Causality: Zetsu made that statement before the Kirin was even launched. So (unless he _somehow_ has the ability to see into the future) how could he possibly be commenting the speed of an attack he hasn't even seen yet???
3a. Context: Black Zetsu was trying to describe the battle in terms that white Zetsu could understand. Throughout the entire battle, black Zetsu kept having to dummdown even the simplest battle concepts to white Zetsu, and he _still_ wasn't getting it - he even says verbatim "I still don't get it" after black Zetsu explains the Kirin to him.
3b. On top of that, white Zetsu is weak (probably not even Chunin level) so saying "the speed of lightning" is going to be enough to convey the point to white Zetsu that this attack is meant to be fast.
Conclusion: In short, because white Zetsu is weak AND a little dull. It would be much easier to just dummitdown to "lightning speed" in order to convey the point, rather than to try to describe it's actual speed, when he doesn't even know how fast it is yet. Its like how how you would dummdown answers to hard questions from a 5 year old. That doesn't somehow change reality to match what you're saying.
4. Proven False: Zetsu would just be wrong; he literally said "It can't be evaded" and then Itachi evades it. So even *IF* you discard context and the literal fact that he *CAN'T SEE INTO THE FUTURE,* then he'd just be wrong, as both sick Itachi and *fatigued* kid Kakashi evade lightning. So the statement is just wrong and invalid.
Zetsu was also wrong when he thought Pain couldn't be defeated either so why are we treating him like some sort of omniscient, reliable narrator?
5. Preponderance, Validity and Weight of Evidence (Cherrypicking): There are countless other pieces of evidence that points towards light speed in Naruto, yet people will discard *ALL* of that in favor of this *ONE* out of context, and proven factually false, statement. Again, even if you ignore the context and the falsidical nature of the statement (my 4 previous points), why does this *SINGLE* passing statement - made by a significantly weaker character at the time - suddenly holds more weight than all the later information? It doesn't. It's just like how in real life, when we have conflicting scientific studies and evidence that points to two mutually exclusive conclusions, we don't just cherrypick the outliers; we go with the preponderance of scientific evidence, and discard the outliers, especially if they can be explained with conflict of interest, etc.
6. Progressions and Contradictions: The war happens *after* this statement. All this means is that Kishimoto could have just changed his mind about how fast he wanted his characters to be, or simply made them *faster* after the fact. Zetsu *supposedly* saying the Kirin is lightning speed doesn't somehow limit the rest of the series to that level. Its almost like people don't get that an author can change their mind, or simply progress a series beyond a previous point. Wow, who would have thought.
Here, I've laid out 6 separate points, all of which can *individually* render this statement invalid and factually false. But all 6 of them are true together and coexist, making the effect even stronger in my opinion.
Please don't get discouraged from making the video if you see others making it first. I already plan on asking as many Naruto Scalers as I can to address this topic; so you can just flash this comment on screen to show that it was a viewer recommendation/request, and *not* that you were copying video ideas. The more videos made, the more people see it, and the more we can fight back against this downplay
Eve is easily the most powerful character in Invincible, but they kept nerfing her with that BS lock that kept her from using her full potential...Hope that changes in the animation cause that was annoying asf for me in the comics, stop hoeing her for like 5 minutes Kirk!...💀💀💀
That's not going to change in the series. It's a core part of her origin and power set. Can't have her running roughshod over the entire universe.
That would make her too strong. She could kill any of these characters in an instant and that would mess up the story.
S:Invincible/Thragg/Battle Beast
A:Allen The Alien/Omnipotus/ Omni-Man/Conquest/Thaedus
B:Kregg/Lucan/Anissa/Thula/Ragnar/Space Racer/Atom Eave/Olivier Grayson/Armstrong Leavy/Bulletproof
Chuck the Goat for these invincible videos.
You know Chuck you should do a hypothetical was between the sayins and the Viltermites, discussing their technology what they would have and what a war would bring to both races just a fun idea
This sounds like a great idea, but a problem that I see with this is that the saiyans have far greater numbers and are already comparable if not superior to the Viltramites in terms of raw destructive capability
@@anthonybernard8819 but didn't the viltramites have an empire that expanded across at least half the galaxy and Also in the Broly movie it's kind of shown for the entire race of the sayains only made up about half of Friza's army so going off of that you could argue that the sayains are with in the hundreds of thousands range, but what you said about destructive capability is on point singing as they could just point at any general direction cause a big explosion
@@MrAlex-mu5mw I brought up numbers because I remember it being stated that there are less then 50 pure Viltrimites, but I we use the Viltrimite empire before the Scourge Virus then it becomes far more even
@@anthonybernard8819 yeah Fairpoint though they have like breeding farms to make almost Viltramites ?
In terms of tech, the Viltrumites have them beat. Their empire lasted for millennia and they conquered thousands of planets, which means they have been exposed to various tech from all their planet colonies. The Saiyans also started their empire but were hindered because Frieza's people conquered and enslaved them. Saiyans are planetary beings, but the only reason for that is because they have Ki, but in terms of raw physical strength, they don't come close to Viltrumites that can literally lift 100's of thousands of tons and destroy moons and planets with their own bodies. Also, the fact that Viltrumites can reproduce with an alien race and that offspring will be nearly full-blooded is way too advantageous. 1 Viltrumite male could just impregnate half the Saiyan females and then would have an additional army.
Conquest being below everyone but Oliver is such a joke. Terrible list
Love the MK sound piece in the video lol
bro can you do a video on divine spawn? 🙏 dudes feats is gnarly!
Based on the idea that Terra might have powers similar to Eve, I think it's safe to assume that. Marcus was probably stronger because he had more Viltrumite DNA but Terra may be more powerful
Thanks for this Chuck. Keep the Invincible content coming.
I can't wait for you to do more Godzilla, MCU and Bleach.
Maybe we can get how powerful is Spawn really video.
Yeah I got some DB stuff coming soon!
@@Chuck I can't wait and you should actually do a list of your favorite characters of a series or favorite incarnation's of a character in the instance of Godzilla.
Great video. Just subbed
Just played a game called asuras wrath you should definitely powerscale Asura. I found literally zero accurate powerscales of the character. Which is absolutely nuts
I'll do him at some point!
Where was Lucan tho
One thing I didn't like about Invincible is just the hand wavy explanation as to why Thragg was so powerful.
Well, they said he was trained far more extensively than the other ones.
He was basically the perfect Viltrum soldier the super soldier of the race more or less but.. Nolan and Mark were royal blood and we see that Mark does become far more powerful by that age.
Great video!
Thanks!