@@ChristopherLeBlancArtAndDesign you realize that that was the whole point right? The movie was basically a giant diss on reboot culture? No one ever understands the wachowski's fully that's why I believe speed racer was critically panned even though it's basically the original series from the 1950s brought to life in full falls to the walls anime action Glory. P.s. I respect your opinion though.
Oh it was obvious that it was a diss on reboot culture but to pull that off it actually has to follow through and make the moral of the story about reboot culture and it has to be entertaining otherwise it's just throwing stones from a glass house.
I was really hoping they'd touch on WHY the Matrix exists a bit more. That there would be some revelation to how it came about. WHY they need "the one." I figured it would be something like; "there are no more real humans except for Neo and Trinity, and we have to keep cloning them, because our core code requires human consent to start and stop the simulation and to allow humans in it." And the Reason for the Matrix is that after the human machine war, Earth was uninhabitable. So, when humans were uploaded, they were just brains in vats -- the bodies were gone and unsustainable. There isn't even a Zion -- that's a simulation to allow humans to think there is hope of being outside the Matrix if they don't believe the simulation. The deception of being "trapped" and it's really just a babysitting VR system is required to prevent humanity from going insane. All the fighting is designed to keep the sides equal, but is unnecessary for the core program. Even the Architect is a simulation, because humanity psychologically needs an entity in control that they can complain to. So in Matrix 4. Neo learns the truth, and then restarts the Matrix. Because there is no other option for continued existence. It's kind of depressing, but, that's good dystopian sci-fi for you.
They do explain Morpheus. He was an AI from the game within the Matrix Neo created from his memories of both Morpheus and Smith. So he has characteristics of both from the start. It's a convoluted unnecessary part of the plot.
@@mattbob1995 As I understand it, the game is a real game in teh simulation based on his life to explain his flashbacks. I said Neo created it but it might be more accurate to say it was created for him using his memories. As I said, convoluted and unnecessary.
Glad I'm not the only one who came here to state new Morpheus is explained. Even drunk, I thought, hmmm...agent Smith and Morpheus combined...in a game AI that breaks free into the actual matrix...wrinkle in my brain.
I thought the scene of "the game is going to be made with or without you" to Neo was the director trying to let the viewer know where Warner bros was coming from when they approached them about making a new movie. I though the whole movie was an attempt to spike future matrix movies bc the original trilogy is a finished product on its own
This is exactly what it was. Trinity even asks Neo in the coffee shop "Did you put yourself into the main character?" and he responds "Maybe too much." All the game dev stuff is Lana talking through Neo, and the d-bag marketing people is her mocking the studio execs she had to work with.
But it's not a finished product at all, proven by the animatrix. There was a genuine hunger for more in the universe, of which the trilogy was such a small part. They could of delved into so many storylines, so many new philosophical points of view... But they did a crappy job. The problem was Lana, period, they should of aproached a better director with more love for the story, she was done.
@@ldgarius Which sucks because Lana essentially sabatoged the whole thing instead of letting a passionate young person take the helm and help them along the way. Who knows, maybe this could have been the next Ryan Coogler Creed situation that sparks new life into the franchise. But no, we won't see that now.
I personally thought the meta stuff was the worst decision they could have made. It immediately felt like an SNL parody/ comedy where they spend a large part insulting you for liking the films. Not the right tone to set at all. The only aspect of the meta "matrix game designer" thing I thought worked, was that it was a clever way to gaslight neo's doubts about reality
The fact that the code is inspired by Japanese sushi cookbooks makes it even more hilarious that they just fully had sushi recipes in their eyeballs X'D
To me, the movie was so bad across so many dimensions, it actually made me wonder if its an intentional sabotage of the IP in an effort to prevent Warner Brothers from creating another trilogy.
@@KING_PHILLIP oh yeah. It's actually one of the most popular theories about the intention of the director and producer's actions for the movie. The Wachowskis created and directed the entire run of the Matrix franchise and proved beyond any doubt they were super talented and competent during the films makings and then we get the SAME people creating and executing the 4th film and they execute everything like complete novices. Either the Wachowski's completely threw the game on their own legacy because they just didn't care AT ALL, or they cared so much that they used their own legacy to punch at the studio and keep the studios from forcefully ripping the IP apart and destroying the stories just for money. The first option literally makes no since. It seems they made a self sacrifice to destroy any possibility of the studio trashing and rebooting the whole franchise. Like if they're going out, its going to be on the Wachowskis' terms.
The Matrix Resurrections is a great movie about a person dealing with Depression and Disassociation that was being gaslighted by a fake therapist, and Thomas(Neo) trying to reconnect with an important loved one, and then that reunited couple rising above their trauma and being successful to pursue what they choose to do together, and so IMO a great movie. 10/10
The new Morpheus is a NPC character in Neo's "Matrix Game" and is explained to be an amalgam of Neo's memories of Morpheus and an Agent. This new Morpheus is brought outside Neo's "Matrix Game" and into the Matrix. At least that's what I think happened there.
I think this is mostly what happened except that Morpheus is running in a “model” which was a simulation Thomas Anderson was running that was based off of Matrix the game code.
Yeah, its a program that guides Neo as 'new Morpheus', because Neo wrote him like that, to truly remind him of Morpheus, to perhaps trust him in time, when that program reveals to him the truth, that Neo still subciounciously seeked and wanted to know if he has gone insane or not. I didnt like jedi powers of Neo, fight scenes, which was dissapointing, but overall plot was fun and clever I thought, not only it messed so much with viewers head in the beggining, it also didnt downgrade previous movies in any form (unlike Star wars by reviving Palpatine and sith Empire :P) and it added some nice lore to the Matrix, that fits the story.
Agree with most of the Matrix points but I thought the explaination of how Morpheis 2.0 came to be was pretty good - to see if his life is real or not, Neo codes an AI into the fictional game that has the curiosity of Morpheus and the anger of Smith and forces it to replay its life over and over to see if someone (or itself) will ever break out of its loop, just like Morpheis and Trinity did to Andersen in the first movie. Overall I though it was a fun movie, an okay movie, and a horrible Matrix movie.
Sure....?, though even that explanation raises more questions: -Neither the personality of Morpheus OR Smith seems present in the resulting character. Its just a different guy... -Neo didn't ACTUALLY code Morpheus or Smith in the Matrix. That's just the internal false narrative and these are fake modern day computers, he wouldn't be capable of creating or running such complex programs on normal computers. How Many Rtx 3090's would the matrix let him have?... -And the matrix meta videogame that neo made... isnt real. Its just an internal matrix mockup to make Neo THINK he made the matrix. There is absolutely NO explanation of how a fake videogame A.I. running on fake modern day computers can somehow achieve complex sentience... -Anything running inside the matrix, is technically running on the matrix system itself, but they just allow Neo to actually start coding characters capable of messing around inside the ACTUAL matrix? AND then somehow magically be moved from the fake internal computer system INTO the regular matrix code, and THEN into the real world computers? Handwaving only gets you so far. That's pure nonsense. It's fine making convoluted overlapping plot points, but only if they're explained and sensible in the rules of the film. They introduced neat enough ideas, just didn't put any thought into how they actually worked.
Yeah I left so conflicted, on one hand I had a little fun with it and appreciated what it was trying to do, but as a matrix fan, as Niko said, this movie was mean to me.
Morpheus was a creation by Neo in the program he had created. He was a combination of morpheus and Smith because Neo was trying to discover the origin of morpheus. This was explained in the movie but was glossed over very fast. Morpheus wasn't a true agent because it was a creation from Neo
they do explain why they brought them (neo and trinity back) he was telling neo that the drive for them two try to get together keep getting stronger the more they fought to get to each other but by keeping them close enough that theyre are in each others reach but just enough out of it that they had to keep fighting harder gave the machines like 10x the out put if I remember correctly
I think Bugs being called Bugs was bugs bunny sure but it was a double meaning thing because of the Alice and the Wonderland bunny. I think overall she's not a negative charecter.
I love Sam but it was driving me insane every time he insisted that they gave "no explanation" for why Morpheus exists in a new form. The fact that he was a coded AI from Neo's video game is a huge plot point and somehow it flew right over both Sam and Niko. Still always appreciate your input and insight regarding literally everything you guys comment on, that just had me pulling my hair out, especially for anyone listening that didn't see the movie yet or also didn't understand that plot thread.
@@CJHalliday The Warchowski's wrote the story for this game for 4 years, then the servers were plugged out. The real reason why Morpheus is different, the overall story... All this was part of the game. The 5 minutes of Niobe in the film is so condensed it barely makes sense !
They were going to make the movie with or without Lana Wachowski. I feel like she decided to do it with the intention to tank it so bad that there's no way WB will want to make more.
Ah, Niko doing the podcast from his backyard reminds me of taking my Senior Year final exams from my roof during Covid College. Minnesota winters, how I hate you so right now...
They never broke the fourth wall. They broke the fifth wall. An example of the fifth wall is in 3rd Rock from the Sun John Lithgow and William shatner both reference their roles in the Twilight zone.
The meta stuff is absolutely amazing. The movie straight out tells you that there should not be a Matrix 4, that it's a really dumb idea and that it only exists because WB wants it to and would have made it with or without the original creators. It's such a giant FU and I love that part.
I realized about 3/4 of the way through the movie that it was a giant middle finger to the audience. It reminded me of Indiana Jones 4 when George Lucas said “I’m making a movie the critics will hate.” Where he was so sour after the Star Wars prequels that he decided not to care about the audience. This was much more intentional and directly offensive to the actual fans. Indiana Jones 4 at least made an attempt to have fun and have a story. Maybe though, Lana Wachowski decided to burn the Matrix franchise from ever being rebooted. I can imagine them trying to convince WB that it was going to be a great movie, they just needed to trust the process.
I know right, another one would be to select a lucky subscriber to join in the render challenges, at least one outsider, of course they'd have to be able to compete, I would love that but I'm still a noob myself but would still be awesome to see if anyone in the vast list of subscribers has the skills to take on the crew. If not a subscriber maybe more guest challenges, I still watch the Beeple ones, how about getting Andrew Price to compete with y'all, Wrennnnnn make it happen you've showed him the studio, now show him how rendering is done sonnnn
I'm so happy to see literally all my thoughts and reactions to this movie summed up in this video. They express my views almost to a T with the lack of care on the fight choreography, the terrible plot, and the meta stuff that makes zero sense. The only thing I really disagree with is that the Trinity twist would have never been a good idea. Everyone came to this to see Neo's triumphant return. I feel like I was tricked into this journey only to see Neo shoved into the back seat for no good reason.
ITS STATED THEY DIDNT WANT TO MAKE THIS MOVIE. One of the lines is "Warner bros is going to make the sequel with or without you" Lana basically said fuck you and she made a whole movie shitting on this. I love it 6/10
Lana didn't just piss on WB though. Now all the good faith of the previous movies had totally evaporated. I was dubious of Matrix 4 but gave it a chance. Now I will stay the fuck away from any Wachowski project forever.
So I don't think this was commented (I looked for it) but in the cannon, Morpheus was actually killed. This happened in The Matrix Online. During the game events on May 26, 2005 (as recorded on the game's official website), Morpheus plants a code bomb in the Rumbaar water treatment facility. After planting the bomb, he realizes he is being hunted by the enigmatic, masked figure known as the Assassin. Morpheus escapes the treatment facility; however, upon his leaving, the Assassin bends the code of the Matrix and emerges from a vent in the wall. Morpheus is caught off-guard and is unable to dodge the Assassin's bullets. He dies from gunshot wounds. During Chapter 6 a figure appeared resembling Morpheus. It took the form of an RSI transmission, apparently originating from the Real World and spread disjointed messages about Neo's survival and imprisonment at the hands of The Machines. This was later revealed to be nothing more than a farce created by The General to sow dissent between Zion and The Machines, an effort he'd hoped would renew conflict between the two parties and give him purpose again. The fake, a Morpheus Simulacrum created from Zion records of the captain, took on a greater role once its master ordered it to deactivate itself. Disobeying its initial programming and refusing to shut down, the program went on to, over time, gain greater levels of self-awareness and sentience. It proved instrumental in The Machines' unlocking of the Zion RSI Database acquired during the 6th destruction of Zion as part of the renewed war effort following the Cypherite discovery of New Zion. This wasn't however done with malicious intent, in fact, the Simulacrum's personality was notably innocent, being more concerned with the world around it and its own existence than taking sides in any political or ideological struggles.
Morpheus is the result of Neo beginning to have suspicions of the Matrix around him, and he subconsciously creates the Morpheus program as a combination of his memories of the traits of that character and Agent Smith. He then throws it into a Modal to continually learn to try to find Neo and it results in it eventually wanting to seek the "truth" which is made possible by Bugs somehow being able to hack into the modal within the Matrix, which is never really explained.
I still don't get what a "modal" is despite the movie referring to it multiple times. They never spelled out exactly what it is. I assume it's just some program loop? They never explicitly state that though. Why not just call it a program loop, if so? Why this fancy-pants "modal" name? And yea, like you said, how did Bugs hack into a program loop/simulation inside the Matrix (basically a simulation within a simulation) from outside the Matrix?
@@DeathBringer769 it's basically a sandbox that runs independently, but within the matrix without affecting it. It's loop design was because of how Neo programmed it for his testing, which is why they also referred to it as a treadmill. Each loop was supposed to advance the Smith agent ai organically to find Neo, as set by Neo's program parameters, but since he didn't program a Neo into the modal, it was an infinite loop, and he was conducting the experiment for.... Reasons? It was something that was honestly a good plot piece, but they didn't give it the time and attention it deserved. Maybe if they delved just a bit into his flashes of memory and how they fed into his modal design wed actually understand why it even existed, and why it was programmed in old matrix code.
EDIT: I feel like you guys missed some of the plot because you were being too critical of the movie. I totally understand that though. But you also have to remember the first movie came out 20 years ago and we were all blown away and have major memories and emotions attached to them. Now 20 years later, obviously you are going to go in overly critical. How can you not? I was too, and I still have problems with it, but they did clearly explain the Morpheus character AI plot. They also explained the reason why they couldn't get Trinity at the same time. Yes, the reason why, as far as writing behind these reasons was dumb, but as for the actual reason in the movie itself, it made sense and they explained a lot of the stuff you are upset about. I want to be clear, I'm not saying this movie was amazing. It does have issues, but I honestly think you all may need to go back and rewatch it. The flashbacks to the first movie were not saying that those were in the game and never happened. They all still actually happened. The flashbacks were Neo remembering and trying to figure out in his own mind if it was something that happened, or if it was just the plot the machines made him believe. That these memories were not real, they were things from a game he created and he was so overworked and depressed he made them his memories. They were just trying to trick him. Just like how it was explained by Smith in the first Matrix. Humans rejected the Matrix when it was built as a utopia. There had to be some chaos. So they used Neo's real memories and told him they were just part of a game he made and he was going crazy. On top of that, hes not a "new rebuilt Neo". He's the same Neo that died in the 3rd movie. The machines were just advanced enough to repair his body and mind to revive him and Trinity. The reason behind that was because the Matrix ran better and was more efficient with their code in the Matrix. That's why they were hidden away in a unique big chamber. They were integral parts of the system running. I liked the movie overall, but the action scenes stood out to me as well. And not in a good way. All of the punches and kicks felt like they had no weight and never connected. They looked all limp wristed. The only decent fight was back in the Construct with Morpheus and even that one didn't match the intensity of the first one. And what about Frenchie? He showed up as a nasty crazy hobo and you're like, okay, we'll see him again and he'll be cleaned up and ready to cause some trouble later. Nope. Never showed up again. I get the meta message about how they didn't want to reboot the movie again, but if you are already putting as much work making the movie in person and countless CGI hours, to make it look good and actually deliver your vision, why couldn't you just go 100% instead of the 70%? I don't understand. Ill be honest, anytime Neo and Trinity were on screen together, it super tugged at my heart strings. I loved seeing those two together again. They really delivered the same emotion and feeling that they really wanted to be together. I felt all the actors did great. Its just the directing of the movie was so phoned in.
I think the sad thing for me is that they made this meta commentary movie about how everyone is remaking/rebooting/making unnecessary sequels which suck, and they ended up making the very same thing that it criticizes it but its ok because it acknowledges that? I just wanted to see some cool sequences, new ideas being explored and that would have been different enough to not fall into the category that the movie criticizes.
Hand down, one of best parts of this episode was Eliza’s pelt cat hat. ! ! ! Great episode guys. I throughly enjoyed. Looking forward to more from you all. Cheers ! ! !
I actually liked new Matrix overall. Fights were meh, but story was actually decent enough and made sense with the previous Matrix movies, Animatrix especially considered, which I really liked (there were many references, good ones, I felt). The main thing I didnt like was meta commentary of the first half, but Im also torn on it, considering it really did well in messing with viewers mind - "Maybe it was all just a lie, maybe previous movies didnt happen in this world, maybe it was all Neo's imagination?", which is also great, since that is the perfect way to make someone lose grip with what was reality and what isnt, it was one of the few things machines could do to make Neo think he is insane - that he imagined it all. I also didnt like the fights, but overall - the theme of it, respecting the previous movies and Neo's and Trinity's legacy - everyone who wanted to be free was really free, machines started coming to humans side (much Animatrix like). New matrix, with bots compensating for humans in simulations with Neo and Trinity being main batteries now, exploited by making their desires almost tangible, but never fullfilled. The battery part was always the 'fantasy' part of the Matrix that you just have to accept, so bringing it back in new fashion was fine with me, especially making it the main plot point of bringing Neo and Trinity back.
Matrix 4 is a "fuck you" to Warner Bros and I was 100% there for it. I really dug that Lana Wachowski didn't smile, nod, and act like she was "inspired" to revisit this. If the movie seemed cynical, it's because it was. It was a monumental money grab by Warner Bros, and Lana Wachowski had the option to step back and let a new director shit on her/her sister's series, or make the film herself and say something.
they brought him back to use him as a battery basically, same reason why trinity was brought back too, Neil Patrick Harris explains how he managed to convince the people up top that it was a good idea and found that them being close but not together was the best way to use their power or something like that 😂
Watching this more and many criticisms miss what’s happening. Watch it again. Follow what the Modal is and what the Analyst has been doing. Also here’s a theory for you: Zion was already the weak part, so it’s not surprising IO is shark jumping too. This movie isn’t perfect, but it’s really not as half- hazard and carelessly done as this first reaction portrays it.
Oh yeah-- and do you realize their is a less than remote possibility that the possum was not dead. Usually good to leave them alone for a while, since their defensive specialization is to fake rigor mortis.
Ok those sweatshirts… i agree with jake about contrast. Maybe offering both, but id definitely want less visually disruptive. And i LOVE the yellow. I wouldnt change it. My ideal would be a black on blackGloss version with yellow inside and strings That would be gnarly and i would buy 2
25:20 The moment that broke Niko's heart. Im not mad at the Matrix 4 because now I have a reason to go back to the original trilogy and appreciate what was made compared to what we now got.
I didn't liked the overall movie on my first watch. But there were still parts that I definitely found very well made, that worked and were interesting. After my second watch, I could better place and understand what the filmmaker was trying to accomplish. I did understood that it was a small movie, I mean on the level of conflict. It's a love story about two old relics who died and got the chance to come back and find each other again. After my third watch I literally had tears at the ending when Neo and Trinity run to each other in slo-mo with the music building up and grab each other's hands. The Matrix Resurrections is basically a retelling of the story of Orpheus who goes to the underworld in order to bring back his deceased loved one Eurydice. As heaving lost my mother at a young age, I completely understood what Lana Wachowski was going for in this movie when she said the death of her parents was the jumping board of inspiration for this film. People who are saying this movie is woke trash are completely missing the point. For example, Bugs was a fun character. There was no disrespect towards Neo from her part or arrogance in general whatsoever. Neither was that the case for the rest of the characters. If they handled Luke Skywalker the same way in The Last Jedi, it would have been a better film. I'm all for subverting expectations when done right. The Matrix Resurrections, being a masterpiece, succeeds where The Last jedi fails. P.S.: The Matrix Resurrections made me even appreciate Reloaded and Revolutions more.
I can’t help but think there was some dispute between the studio and the actors that were replaced. There is just no way you don’t even ask of of your main characters to reprise their own role. If they had to write a story without Morpheus or Smith, fine. But the story DID have those characters, and those actors were available and willing, so why the fuck weren’t they there? The lack of an actual answer to this is infuriating. I don’t buy Fishburne’s indifference, I want him to be a frustrated as I am.
Smith: Now what? Things have changed. The market's tough. I'm sure you can understand why our beloved parent company, Warner Brothers, has decided to make a sequel to the trilogy. Neo: What? Smith: They informed me they're gonna to do it with or without us. Neo: I thought they couldn't do that? Smith: Oh, they can, and they made it clear they would kill our contract if we didn't cooperate. Neo: No? Smith: I know you said the story was over for you, but that's the thing about stories... they never really end do they? We're still telling the same stories we've always told, just with different names... faces... and... I have to say I'm kind of excited. After all these years, to be going back to where it all started. Back to The Matrix! I've spoken to marketing. This exchange from the movie should tell you all about it. After many years i watched Matrix trilogy, Animatrix, whole production documentaries to everything, read artbook with storyboards, concepts and script which took me 4 whole days and i realized how much i love the franchise. Trilogy is 10/10, whole 3 films. I think it is groundbreaking masterpiece that is so influential on me that every 4th story idea i have is with virtual reality. Creators did the art they wanted to make and despite little meaningless nitpicks i have, i think they realized their vision, objectively speaking, to the fullest and subjectively speaking i love it too, even if i didnt like Revolutions as a kid highly as i do now. And after hearing Smith talking about Warner Bros i got that it all a meta commentary, fanfic and almost halfassed on purpose so maybe it could bomb and there were no more sequels at least for a while. I was happy to know what happened after Revolutions with IO but still sad / angry that it has shitty action, cinematography and editing resulting overall in not a great story and movie. Wachowski didn't want to make another story and sometimes best things lasts short and you need to let it go. Just like Darth Maul shouldve been dead after episode 1 no matter how much fans complained, dont be ridiculous just use someone else from same race. Warner are cashgrabbers, cowards and should have not done this. Perhaps there is silver lining - good Matrix sequel could happen if right artists given the opportunity without studio screwing everything over, there is precedents when it happened to other franchises. Matrix world is rich enough. Or they will really go for The Catrix! (Watch after credits) and the likes, milking this cow dry, it will be so shitty i will need to pretend like it never happened just like Star Wars sequel trilogy, but before that happened i will read Matrix comics that i never touched and cherish whatever good is left of this.
i already listened to the episode but i clicked on the video just to check out the new hoodie design. i have the classic mocap hoodie but id really like a mocap hoodie with a zipper and if it wasnt so thick.
I'll take the heat, I enjoyed the Matrix full stop. Nothing bothered me because I'm going through what Neo did, loosing once self and hoping my dreams would take over. While its not as good as 1 its way better than 2 or 3
WB were going to make the Matrix 4 without them if they didn't agree to get involved. So it's a screw you to Warner more than the viewer, just a shame it actually felt like Warner telling the viewer "thanks for your money, now fuck off".
M4 Morpheus is the Morpheus AI character coded by Mr. Anderson in the Game, but recast him as an Agent in the Modal Simulation of the Game. Something his subconscious drives him to do. That's what Bugs and her team picked up on. It was quite the stretch and is a bit clunky.
@8:08 "The whole plot is that Thomas Anderson is a game designer that has made this game called The Matrix..." That would've been a gutsy move had they actually followed through and retconned the entire Matrix trilogy as a real-time MMO. But it was little more than a meta-joke, discarded as soon as the flying robot insect ripped Neo out of his pod. What followed was little more than a CGI showcase of mostly recast Matrix outtakes.
Not that I'm here to defend the plot but Sam clearly didn't get the Morpheus and Trinity parts that are half of the movie, maybe he was just to frustrated. Matrix 4 clearly had a potential but it was badly executed and at some point they just dropped the ball... In the right hands the franchise could be incredible.
The Matrix 4 feels like the plot for a Matrix themed rollercoaster that you'd see on TVs queuing for the ride.
holy shit. that's exactly how it felt
This is spot on. The movie looks like a parody of itself, like its a cheap knock-off of a real Matrix movie.
@@ChristopherLeBlancArtAndDesign you realize that that was the whole point right?
The movie was basically a giant diss on reboot culture?
No one ever understands the wachowski's fully that's why I believe speed racer was critically panned even though it's basically the original series from the 1950s brought to life in full falls to the walls anime action Glory.
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I respect your opinion though.
Oh it was obvious that it was a diss on reboot culture but to pull that off it actually has to follow through and make the moral of the story about reboot culture and it has to be entertaining otherwise it's just throwing stones from a glass house.
Everyone going complete nuts on Matrix 4 and Jake just be like: "I just skinned a possum the other day."
Lol but he thinks making it into a hat is weird. Why would you want a possum pelt
@@ac.creations making a hat for a cat from an opossum is weird but maybe he want a hat for himself.
hahaha
@@mf-- i think itd be cool to skin cobras or rattlesnakes. Make knife sheathes, belts, or even overmold it onto knife handles with epoxy.
@@LeonardoMastrogiovanni I'll give you slack since you're probably a child. Snakes are not worth your love.
Yeah, Matrix 4 was like reconnecting with an old friend to find out they got into hard drugs and have ruined their life...
This is the exact thought I had
On the plus side Matrix 4 can't ask to borrow my car.
I was really hoping they'd touch on WHY the Matrix exists a bit more. That there would be some revelation to how it came about. WHY they need "the one." I figured it would be something like; "there are no more real humans except for Neo and Trinity, and we have to keep cloning them, because our core code requires human consent to start and stop the simulation and to allow humans in it." And the Reason for the Matrix is that after the human machine war, Earth was uninhabitable. So, when humans were uploaded, they were just brains in vats -- the bodies were gone and unsustainable. There isn't even a Zion -- that's a simulation to allow humans to think there is hope of being outside the Matrix if they don't believe the simulation. The deception of being "trapped" and it's really just a babysitting VR system is required to prevent humanity from going insane.
All the fighting is designed to keep the sides equal, but is unnecessary for the core program. Even the Architect is a simulation, because humanity psychologically needs an entity in control that they can complain to.
So in Matrix 4. Neo learns the truth, and then restarts the Matrix. Because there is no other option for continued existence. It's kind of depressing, but, that's good dystopian sci-fi for you.
@@Alkatross lol
7:41 is where the Matrix 4 review starts. Great review!
Thanks
thank you
Anyone else appreciate the first part of this podcast being these three fellas having a merch business meeting and just talking about being dads?😊
I really like the splash of yellow on the new sweatshirt personally. I think it gives a nice pop.
They do explain Morpheus.
He was an AI from the game within the Matrix Neo created from his memories of both Morpheus and Smith.
So he has characteristics of both from the start.
It's a convoluted unnecessary part of the plot.
I thought "the game" was a false memory they gave him to explain his flashbacks
@@mattbob1995 As I understand it, the game is a real game in teh simulation based on his life to explain his flashbacks. I said Neo created it but it might be more accurate to say it was created for him using his memories.
As I said, convoluted and unnecessary.
They should have handled it like they did with the Oracle. "New threads to keep hidden." Okay then.
Glad I'm not the only one who came here to state new Morpheus is explained. Even drunk, I thought, hmmm...agent Smith and Morpheus combined...in a game AI that breaks free into the actual matrix...wrinkle in my brain.
I thought the scene of "the game is going to be made with or without you" to Neo was the director trying to let the viewer know where Warner bros was coming from when they approached them about making a new movie. I though the whole movie was an attempt to spike future matrix movies bc the original trilogy is a finished product on its own
What do you all think, am I way off base?
This is exactly what it was. Trinity even asks Neo in the coffee shop "Did you put yourself into the main character?" and he responds "Maybe too much." All the game dev stuff is Lana talking through Neo, and the d-bag marketing people is her mocking the studio execs she had to work with.
It's not subtle. At all. So yes you're right
But it's not a finished product at all, proven by the animatrix. There was a genuine hunger for more in the universe, of which the trilogy was such a small part. They could of delved into so many storylines, so many new philosophical points of view... But they did a crappy job. The problem was Lana, period, they should of aproached a better director with more love for the story, she was done.
@@ldgarius Which sucks because Lana essentially sabatoged the whole thing instead of letting a passionate young person take the helm and help them along the way. Who knows, maybe this could have been the next Ryan Coogler Creed situation that sparks new life into the franchise. But no, we won't see that now.
Conflicted noises over Matrix, Jake "So my dog killed a possum and I decided to skin it."
This is one of their best cast videos. Can’t wait to hear Jake’s take on the film. And love Niko’s lighting display. 💓
I personally thought the meta stuff was the worst decision they could have made. It immediately felt like an SNL parody/ comedy where they spend a large part insulting you for liking the films. Not the right tone to set at all. The only aspect of the meta "matrix game designer" thing I thought worked, was that it was a clever way to gaslight neo's doubts about reality
The fact that the code is inspired by Japanese sushi cookbooks makes it even more hilarious that they just fully had sushi recipes in their eyeballs X'D
To me, the movie was so bad across so many dimensions, it actually made me wonder if its an intentional sabotage of the IP in an effort to prevent Warner Brothers from creating another trilogy.
I also thought this, but on the other hand, I saw Jupiter Ascending...
Bingo
WB was going to make a 4th matrix staring Micheal B Jordan. So this is probably a troll by one of the Wachowskj siblings.
Huh. 🤔
Interesting line of thought. I hadn't considered that.
@@KING_PHILLIP oh yeah. It's actually one of the most popular theories about the intention of the director and producer's actions for the movie. The Wachowskis created and directed the entire run of the Matrix franchise and proved beyond any doubt they were super talented and competent during the films makings and then we get the SAME people creating and executing the 4th film and they execute everything like complete novices. Either the Wachowski's completely threw the game on their own legacy because they just didn't care AT ALL, or they cared so much that they used their own legacy to punch at the studio and keep the studios from forcefully ripping the IP apart and destroying the stories just for money. The first option literally makes no since. It seems they made a self sacrifice to destroy any possibility of the studio trashing and rebooting the whole franchise. Like if they're going out, its going to be on the Wachowskis' terms.
The Matrix Resurrections is a great movie about a person dealing with
Depression and Disassociation that was being gaslighted by a fake
therapist, and Thomas(Neo) trying to reconnect with an important loved
one, and then that reunited couple rising above their trauma and being
successful to pursue what they choose to do together, and so IMO a great
movie. 10/10
The Matrix 4 felt like a tax write off written by a fan on a reddit thread
The new Morpheus is a NPC character in Neo's "Matrix Game" and is explained to be an amalgam of Neo's memories of Morpheus and an Agent. This new Morpheus is brought outside Neo's "Matrix Game" and into the Matrix. At least that's what I think happened there.
I think this is mostly what happened except that Morpheus is running in a “model” which was a simulation Thomas Anderson was running that was based off of Matrix the game code.
Yeah, its a program that guides Neo as 'new Morpheus', because Neo wrote him like that, to truly remind him of Morpheus, to perhaps trust him in time, when that program reveals to him the truth, that Neo still subciounciously seeked and wanted to know if he has gone insane or not. I didnt like jedi powers of Neo, fight scenes, which was dissapointing, but overall plot was fun and clever I thought, not only it messed so much with viewers head in the beggining, it also didnt downgrade previous movies in any form (unlike Star wars by reviving Palpatine and sith Empire :P) and it added some nice lore to the Matrix, that fits the story.
Original Morpheus lived and died in reality outside of the Matrix. New Morpheus was a program by Neo with the attributes of his friend.
I’ve been looking forward to this podcast for so long. Now, my week feels complete. Thanks guys.
Same.
Agree with most of the Matrix points but I thought the explaination of how Morpheis 2.0 came to be was pretty good - to see if his life is real or not, Neo codes an AI into the fictional game that has the curiosity of Morpheus and the anger of Smith and forces it to replay its life over and over to see if someone (or itself) will ever break out of its loop, just like Morpheis and Trinity did to Andersen in the first movie.
Overall I though it was a fun movie, an okay movie, and a horrible Matrix movie.
Thank you! Great explanation of what they missed.
That said, it still makes no sense that he apparently goes home to his apartment and takes showers at some point in the endless loop.
@@PenitusVox Agents need to workout!! Apparently...
Sure....?, though even that explanation raises more questions:
-Neither the personality of Morpheus OR Smith seems present in the resulting character. Its just a different guy...
-Neo didn't ACTUALLY code Morpheus or Smith in the Matrix. That's just the internal false narrative and these are fake modern day computers, he wouldn't be capable of creating or running such complex programs on normal computers. How Many Rtx 3090's would the matrix let him have?...
-And the matrix meta videogame that neo made... isnt real. Its just an internal matrix mockup to make Neo THINK he made the matrix. There is absolutely NO explanation of how a fake videogame A.I. running on fake modern day computers can somehow achieve complex sentience...
-Anything running inside the matrix, is technically running on the matrix system itself, but they just allow Neo to actually start coding characters capable of messing around inside the ACTUAL matrix? AND then somehow magically be moved from the fake internal computer system INTO the regular matrix code, and THEN into the real world computers? Handwaving only gets you so far. That's pure nonsense.
It's fine making convoluted overlapping plot points, but only if they're explained and sensible in the rules of the film. They introduced neat enough ideas, just didn't put any thought into how they actually worked.
Yeah I left so conflicted, on one hand I had a little fun with it and appreciated what it was trying to do, but as a matrix fan, as Niko said, this movie was mean to me.
I kept waiting for that one guy to sell me shoes.
I felt like Niko after Matrix 4 after I watched episode 8 of star wars
Morpheus was a creation by Neo in the program he had created. He was a combination of morpheus and Smith because Neo was trying to discover the origin of morpheus. This was explained in the movie but was glossed over very fast. Morpheus wasn't a true agent because it was a creation from Neo
43:00 you know what this means now right? CORRIDOR GETS TO REMAKE IT BETTER!
they do explain why they brought them (neo and trinity back) he was telling neo that the drive for them two try to get together keep getting stronger the more they fought to get to each other but by keeping them close enough that theyre are in each others reach but just enough out of it that they had to keep fighting harder gave the machines like 10x the out put if I remember correctly
I think Bugs being called Bugs was bugs bunny sure but it was a double meaning thing because of the Alice and the Wonderland bunny. I think overall she's not a negative charecter.
Yeah. And you can also see it as kind of a new trans allegory since Bugs crossdresses. A lot of stuff Niko and Sam missed.
love you videos, website, and podcast. Keep up the good work, fellas.
I love Sam but it was driving me insane every time he insisted that they gave "no explanation" for why Morpheus exists in a new form. The fact that he was a coded AI from Neo's video game is a huge plot point and somehow it flew right over both Sam and Niko.
Still always appreciate your input and insight regarding literally everything you guys comment on, that just had me pulling my hair out, especially for anyone listening that didn't see the movie yet or also didn't understand that plot thread.
29:06 - Drinking game - take a swig every time you hear 'like' in this monologue...
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Worst part is that apparently, they didn't even ask Laurence Fishburne if he wanted to return
Because they killed him in a video game.
It's like they wrote a Matrix musical about love and then adapted that into a movie lol
I love the new hoodie Jake is wearing
For some reason i'm enjoying this FAR MORE that the corrider creew or vfx reacts.. just three dudes, chilling, talking.. no scripts.. i like it.
I like the lights in Niko's livingroom
Watching the matrix 4 felt like hearing the wilhelm scream 6000 times in a row
Niko's home office is the best
You had to play "The Matrix online" MMO in 2004, for 4 years, to know what's going on in the fourth movie!
Really?...Why is that? can you\someone explain
@@CJHalliday The Warchowski's wrote the story for this game for 4 years, then the servers were plugged out. The real reason why Morpheus is different, the overall story... All this was part of the game. The 5 minutes of Niobe in the film is so condensed it barely makes sense !
They were going to make the movie with or without Lana Wachowski. I feel like she decided to do it with the intention to tank it so bad that there's no way WB will want to make more.
You guys should consider creating a ‘corridor clips’ channel. Came here expecting 3-9min on matrix 4 lol
Yellow and grey is a great combo
Ah, Niko doing the podcast from his backyard reminds me of taking my Senior Year final exams from my roof during Covid College.
Minnesota winters, how I hate you so right now...
They never broke the fourth wall. They broke the fifth wall. An example of the fifth wall is in 3rd Rock from the Sun John Lithgow and William shatner both reference their roles in the Twilight zone.
The meta stuff is absolutely amazing. The movie straight out tells you that there should not be a Matrix 4, that it's a really dumb idea and that it only exists because WB wants it to and would have made it with or without the original creators. It's such a giant FU and I love that part.
contracted covid and watching this from home now xD
I realized about 3/4 of the way through the movie that it was a giant middle finger to the audience. It reminded me of Indiana Jones 4 when George Lucas said “I’m making a movie the critics will hate.” Where he was so sour after the Star Wars prequels that he decided not to care about the audience. This was much more intentional and directly offensive to the actual fans. Indiana Jones 4 at least made an attempt to have fun and have a story. Maybe though, Lana Wachowski decided to burn the Matrix franchise from ever being rebooted. I can imagine them trying to convince WB that it was going to be a great movie, they just needed to trust the process.
Not to the audience, to Warner Brothers
if you guys were charged with coming up with the next new matrix power/effect what would it be and how would you achieve the effect? render challenge?
Oh now that's a fun idea!
I know right, another one would be to select a lucky subscriber to join in the render challenges, at least one outsider, of course they'd have to be able to compete, I would love that but I'm still a noob myself but would still be awesome to see if anyone in the vast list of subscribers has the skills to take on the crew. If not a subscriber maybe more guest challenges, I still watch the Beeple ones, how about getting Andrew Price to compete with y'all, Wrennnnnn make it happen you've showed him the studio, now show him how rendering is done sonnnn
They should've just made the film like the Unreal demo. That was sick and captured the feeling of the trilogy.
I'm so happy to see literally all my thoughts and reactions to this movie summed up in this video. They express my views almost to a T with the lack of care on the fight choreography, the terrible plot, and the meta stuff that makes zero sense. The only thing I really disagree with is that the Trinity twist would have never been a good idea. Everyone came to this to see Neo's triumphant return. I feel like I was tricked into this journey only to see Neo shoved into the back seat for no good reason.
ITS STATED THEY DIDNT WANT TO MAKE THIS MOVIE. One of the lines is "Warner bros is going to make the sequel with or without you" Lana basically said fuck you and she made a whole movie shitting on this. I love it 6/10
Lana didn't just piss on WB though. Now all the good faith of the previous movies had totally evaporated. I was dubious of Matrix 4 but gave it a chance. Now I will stay the fuck away from any Wachowski project forever.
So I don't think this was commented (I looked for it) but in the cannon, Morpheus was actually killed. This happened in The Matrix Online. During the game events on May 26, 2005 (as recorded on the game's official website), Morpheus plants a code bomb in the Rumbaar water treatment facility. After planting the bomb, he realizes he is being hunted by the enigmatic, masked figure known as the Assassin. Morpheus escapes the treatment facility; however, upon his leaving, the Assassin bends the code of the Matrix and emerges from a vent in the wall. Morpheus is caught off-guard and is unable to dodge the Assassin's bullets. He dies from gunshot wounds.
During Chapter 6 a figure appeared resembling Morpheus. It took the form of an RSI transmission, apparently originating from the Real World and spread disjointed messages about Neo's survival and imprisonment at the hands of The Machines. This was later revealed to be nothing more than a farce created by The General to sow dissent between Zion and The Machines, an effort he'd hoped would renew conflict between the two parties and give him purpose again.
The fake, a Morpheus Simulacrum created from Zion records of the captain, took on a greater role once its master ordered it to deactivate itself. Disobeying its initial programming and refusing to shut down, the program went on to, over time, gain greater levels of self-awareness and sentience. It proved instrumental in The Machines' unlocking of the Zion RSI Database acquired during the 6th destruction of Zion as part of the renewed war effort following the Cypherite discovery of New Zion. This wasn't however done with malicious intent, in fact, the Simulacrum's personality was notably innocent, being more concerned with the world around it and its own existence than taking sides in any political or ideological struggles.
Niko is such a chill dude, he'll live up to 150yo haha
Nooooooo, only after watching this have I realised that actually was Jada 😳
Morpheus is the result of Neo beginning to have suspicions of the Matrix around him, and he subconsciously creates the Morpheus program as a combination of his memories of the traits of that character and Agent Smith. He then throws it into a Modal to continually learn to try to find Neo and it results in it eventually wanting to seek the "truth" which is made possible by Bugs somehow being able to hack into the modal within the Matrix, which is never really explained.
I still don't get what a "modal" is despite the movie referring to it multiple times. They never spelled out exactly what it is. I assume it's just some program loop? They never explicitly state that though. Why not just call it a program loop, if so? Why this fancy-pants "modal" name? And yea, like you said, how did Bugs hack into a program loop/simulation inside the Matrix (basically a simulation within a simulation) from outside the Matrix?
@@DeathBringer769 it's basically a sandbox that runs independently, but within the matrix without affecting it.
It's loop design was because of how Neo programmed it for his testing, which is why they also referred to it as a treadmill.
Each loop was supposed to advance the Smith agent ai organically to find Neo, as set by Neo's program parameters, but since he didn't program a Neo into the modal, it was an infinite loop, and he was conducting the experiment for.... Reasons?
It was something that was honestly a good plot piece, but they didn't give it the time and attention it deserved. Maybe if they delved just a bit into his flashes of memory and how they fed into his modal design wed actually understand why it even existed, and why it was programmed in old matrix code.
EDIT: I feel like you guys missed some of the plot because you were being too critical of the movie. I totally understand that though. But you also have to remember the first movie came out 20 years ago and we were all blown away and have major memories and emotions attached to them. Now 20 years later, obviously you are going to go in overly critical. How can you not? I was too, and I still have problems with it, but they did clearly explain the Morpheus character AI plot. They also explained the reason why they couldn't get Trinity at the same time. Yes, the reason why, as far as writing behind these reasons was dumb, but as for the actual reason in the movie itself, it made sense and they explained a lot of the stuff you are upset about. I want to be clear, I'm not saying this movie was amazing. It does have issues, but I honestly think you all may need to go back and rewatch it. The flashbacks to the first movie were not saying that those were in the game and never happened. They all still actually happened. The flashbacks were Neo remembering and trying to figure out in his own mind if it was something that happened, or if it was just the plot the machines made him believe. That these memories were not real, they were things from a game he created and he was so overworked and depressed he made them his memories. They were just trying to trick him. Just like how it was explained by Smith in the first Matrix. Humans rejected the Matrix when it was built as a utopia. There had to be some chaos. So they used Neo's real memories and told him they were just part of a game he made and he was going crazy. On top of that, hes not a "new rebuilt Neo". He's the same Neo that died in the 3rd movie. The machines were just advanced enough to repair his body and mind to revive him and Trinity. The reason behind that was because the Matrix ran better and was more efficient with their code in the Matrix. That's why they were hidden away in a unique big chamber. They were integral parts of the system running.
I liked the movie overall, but the action scenes stood out to me as well. And not in a good way. All of the punches and kicks felt like they had no weight and never connected. They looked all limp wristed. The only decent fight was back in the Construct with Morpheus and even that one didn't match the intensity of the first one. And what about Frenchie? He showed up as a nasty crazy hobo and you're like, okay, we'll see him again and he'll be cleaned up and ready to cause some trouble later. Nope. Never showed up again. I get the meta message about how they didn't want to reboot the movie again, but if you are already putting as much work making the movie in person and countless CGI hours, to make it look good and actually deliver your vision, why couldn't you just go 100% instead of the 70%? I don't understand. Ill be honest, anytime Neo and Trinity were on screen together, it super tugged at my heart strings. I loved seeing those two together again. They really delivered the same emotion and feeling that they really wanted to be together. I felt all the actors did great. Its just the directing of the movie was so phoned in.
I could listen to them rant about movies forever
I don't think the movie was great, but a handful of grips mentioned were answered within the movie.
Second hand chop with the lag lol.
This is the first time I've heard Nico say fuck so it must be bad XD
Jupiter Ascending was already a HUGE red flag.
I think the sad thing for me is that they made this meta commentary movie about how everyone is remaking/rebooting/making unnecessary sequels which suck, and they ended up making the very same thing that it criticizes it but its ok because it acknowledges that? I just wanted to see some cool sequences, new ideas being explored and that would have been different enough to not fall into the category that the movie criticizes.
The whole "meta" thing was clearly the writers/director criticizing the studio for making the movie that shouldn't exist. Not the studio being clever.
Hand down, one of best parts of this episode was Eliza’s pelt cat hat. ! ! ! Great episode guys. I throughly enjoyed. Looking forward to more from you all. Cheers ! ! !
Imagine a little ushanka for the cat, lmao.
I actually liked new Matrix overall. Fights were meh, but story was actually decent enough and made sense with the previous Matrix movies, Animatrix especially considered, which I really liked (there were many references, good ones, I felt). The main thing I didnt like was meta commentary of the first half, but Im also torn on it, considering it really did well in messing with viewers mind - "Maybe it was all just a lie, maybe previous movies didnt happen in this world, maybe it was all Neo's imagination?", which is also great, since that is the perfect way to make someone lose grip with what was reality and what isnt, it was one of the few things machines could do to make Neo think he is insane - that he imagined it all. I also didnt like the fights, but overall - the theme of it, respecting the previous movies and Neo's and Trinity's legacy - everyone who wanted to be free was really free, machines started coming to humans side (much Animatrix like). New matrix, with bots compensating for humans in simulations with Neo and Trinity being main batteries now, exploited by making their desires almost tangible, but never fullfilled. The battery part was always the 'fantasy' part of the Matrix that you just have to accept, so bringing it back in new fashion was fine with me, especially making it the main plot point of bringing Neo and Trinity back.
I haven't seen it yet, I feel like no amount of Keanu Reeves will rescue this movie
Would definitely buy the motrack jacket
Between Animaniacs, Space Jam 2, and this movie WB plays the same villain.
I know this is 2mon late but the yellow is awesome on that hoodie.
Matrix 4 is a "fuck you" to Warner Bros and I was 100% there for it. I really dug that Lana Wachowski didn't smile, nod, and act like she was "inspired" to revisit this.
If the movie seemed cynical, it's because it was. It was a monumental money grab by Warner Bros, and Lana Wachowski had the option to step back and let a new director shit on her/her sister's series, or make the film herself and say something.
Wait, print on demand was a thing a year ago! There was a way to see if people actually like the sweatshirts before ordering them.
Hope they'll do Matrix 4 - Snaider's cut.
they brought him back to use him as a battery basically, same reason why trinity was brought back too, Neil Patrick Harris explains how he managed to convince the people up top that it was a good idea and found that them being close but not together was the best way to use their power or something like that 😂
Watching this more and many criticisms miss what’s happening. Watch it again. Follow what the Modal is and what the Analyst has been doing. Also here’s a theory for you: Zion was already the weak part, so it’s not surprising IO is shark jumping too. This movie isn’t perfect, but it’s really not as half- hazard and carelessly done as this first reaction portrays it.
Final FYI- you didn’t see the last scene in the movie since it appears after the credits
Oh yeah-- and do you realize their is a less than remote possibility that the possum was not dead. Usually good to leave them alone for a while, since their defensive specialization is to fake rigor mortis.
Matrix 4 "meta" aspects were basically just all the 4th wall break gags from Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back
No, it was basically the script saying out loud that WB really wanted this movie and it's a stupid idea.
They ressurected him because the love between him and trinity is a lot more energy for the machines
Which is ridiculous. They are human bodies like any other. They should have gone with some sort of code - based reason.
sam: it feels like a fan film
yeah, made by someone who isnt a fan anymore. aka, lana wachowsk.
Ok those sweatshirts… i agree with jake about contrast. Maybe offering both, but id definitely want less visually disruptive.
And i LOVE the yellow. I wouldnt change it.
My ideal would be a black on blackGloss version with yellow inside and strings
That would be gnarly and i would buy 2
25:20 The moment that broke Niko's heart. Im not mad at the Matrix 4 because now I have a reason to go back to the original trilogy and appreciate what was made compared to what we now got.
40:40 It is really important.
Great cat
Ah been waiting for this since the VFX react haha
I didn't liked the overall movie on my first watch. But there were still parts that I definitely found very well made, that worked and were interesting.
After my second watch, I could better place and understand what the filmmaker was trying to accomplish. I did understood that it was a small movie, I mean on the level of conflict. It's a love story about two old relics who died and got the chance to come back and find each other again.
After my third watch I literally had tears at the ending when Neo and Trinity run to each other in slo-mo with the music building up and grab each other's hands.
The Matrix Resurrections is basically a retelling of the story of Orpheus who goes to the underworld in order to bring back his deceased loved one Eurydice. As heaving lost my mother at a young age, I completely understood what Lana Wachowski was going for in this movie when she said the death of her parents was the jumping board of inspiration for this film.
People who are saying this movie is woke trash are completely missing the point. For example, Bugs was a fun character. There was no disrespect towards Neo from her part or arrogance in general whatsoever. Neither was that the case for the rest of the characters. If they handled Luke Skywalker the same way in The Last Jedi, it would have been a better film. I'm all for subverting expectations when done right. The Matrix Resurrections, being a masterpiece, succeeds where The Last jedi fails.
P.S.: The Matrix Resurrections made me even appreciate Reloaded and Revolutions more.
I can’t help but think there was some dispute between the studio and the actors that were replaced. There is just no way you don’t even ask of of your main characters to reprise their own role. If they had to write a story without Morpheus or Smith, fine. But the story DID have those characters, and those actors were available and willing, so why the fuck weren’t they there? The lack of an actual answer to this is infuriating. I don’t buy Fishburne’s indifference, I want him to be a frustrated as I am.
Mexican put salt and line in beer, we put all kind of stuff in beer
Smith: Now what? Things have changed. The market's tough. I'm sure you can understand why our beloved parent company, Warner Brothers, has decided to make a sequel to the trilogy.
Neo: What?
Smith: They informed me they're gonna to do it with or without us.
Neo: I thought they couldn't do that?
Smith: Oh, they can, and they made it clear they would kill our contract if we didn't cooperate.
Neo: No?
Smith: I know you said the story was over for you, but that's the thing about stories... they never really end do they? We're still telling the same stories we've always told, just with different names... faces... and... I have to say I'm kind of excited. After all these years, to be going back to where it all started. Back to The Matrix! I've spoken to marketing.
This exchange from the movie should tell you all about it.
After many years i watched Matrix trilogy, Animatrix, whole production documentaries to everything, read artbook with storyboards, concepts and script which took me 4 whole days and i realized how much i love the franchise. Trilogy is 10/10, whole 3 films. I think it is groundbreaking masterpiece that is so influential on me that every 4th story idea i have is with virtual reality. Creators did the art they wanted to make and despite little meaningless nitpicks i have, i think they realized their vision, objectively speaking, to the fullest and subjectively speaking i love it too, even if i didnt like Revolutions as a kid highly as i do now.
And after hearing Smith talking about Warner Bros i got that it all a meta commentary, fanfic and almost halfassed on purpose so maybe it could bomb and there were no more sequels at least for a while. I was happy to know what happened after Revolutions with IO but still sad / angry that it has shitty action, cinematography and editing resulting overall in not a great story and movie.
Wachowski didn't want to make another story and sometimes best things lasts short and you need to let it go. Just like Darth Maul shouldve been dead after episode 1 no matter how much fans complained, dont be ridiculous just use someone else from same race. Warner are cashgrabbers, cowards and should have not done this.
Perhaps there is silver lining - good Matrix sequel could happen if right artists given the opportunity without studio screwing everything over, there is precedents when it happened to other franchises. Matrix world is rich enough.
Or they will really go for The Catrix! (Watch after credits) and the likes, milking this cow dry, it will be so shitty i will need to pretend like it never happened just like Star Wars sequel trilogy, but before that happened i will read Matrix comics that i never touched and cherish whatever good is left of this.
i already listened to the episode but i clicked on the video just to check out the new hoodie design. i have the classic mocap hoodie but id really like a mocap hoodie with a zipper and if it wasnt so thick.
Brass Against is nutters.
I'll take the heat, I enjoyed the Matrix full stop. Nothing bothered me because I'm going through what Neo did, loosing once self and hoping my dreams would take over. While its not as good as 1 its way better than 2 or 3
WB were going to make the Matrix 4 without them if they didn't agree to get involved. So it's a screw you to Warner more than the viewer, just a shame it actually felt like Warner telling the viewer "thanks for your money, now fuck off".
Yep. Lana intentionally tanking the production was the only way for her to be sure Warner would never make another one.
If you are here from Instagram 25:20 you're welcome.
M4 Morpheus is the Morpheus AI character coded by Mr. Anderson in the Game, but recast him as an Agent in the Modal Simulation of the Game. Something his subconscious drives him to do. That's what Bugs and her team picked up on. It was quite the stretch and is a bit clunky.
damn... i loved this movie. didn't wren like it? would have loved to get his opinion here
Yeah, the point where they project 35mm film onto a wall and tell me it's a video game is the moment I check out.
@8:08 "The whole plot is that Thomas Anderson is a game designer that has made this game called The Matrix..."
That would've been a gutsy move had they actually followed through and retconned the entire Matrix trilogy as a real-time MMO. But it was little more than a meta-joke, discarded as soon as the flying robot insect ripped Neo out of his pod. What followed was little more than a CGI showcase of mostly recast Matrix outtakes.
Wasn't a joke.
salt and lime because Mexican water. safety first!
I don't get the hate for Brass Against tbh - I like their version, although I agree it's not a great choice for the credits of a Matrix movie.
i thought the bunny was a alice in wonderland reference
Isn't the lime to keep the flies away?
im looking forward to the meat podcast lol
Did anybody else see the post-credit sequence?!? The Catrix?!?! Like what the actual fuck
Yes, it's awesome! And 100% a real studio note.
Not that I'm here to defend the plot but Sam clearly didn't get the Morpheus and Trinity parts that are half of the movie, maybe he was just to frustrated.
Matrix 4 clearly had a potential but it was badly executed and at some point they just dropped the ball... In the right hands the franchise could be incredible.
Is Niko’s jacket a mocap suit design?
It felt like fan fiction.