I'm glad there's a channel where educated people can have a discussion on Pakistani issues. You don't have to agree with Batool or Wali, but we should welcome educated conversations. Try and learn from their experience, rather than considering it universal truth. Well done Wali bhai.
Being born in Pakistan, moving to Canada at the age of 14 in late 80’s … then living in Canada, educating, getting married, having kids, working until 2014 and then moving with the family to Dubai… I can say I’m somewhat of an expert in family life (traditional family) in Canada, Pakistan and Dubai. I think the lady maybe fine in her own personal experience of living in Dubai … but she really doesn’t paint the correct picture of the experience of people like me. Tons of people ask me for advice on moving to Dubai and I always tell them that if they can find a job in a certain salary range then definitely move to Dubai. Especially if they would like to live in a traditional, safe, advanced and welcoming environment. My entire extended family is in Canada, US or UK… and visit every year. Whenever I visit I feel like im in an unsafe, unfriendly and broken place compared to Dubai. Living in Dubai I have the ability to not only positively impact my immediate family but also my extended family, friends and other needy people. I can not do the same working in Canada. My entire circle of friends that are expat Canadians with kids are of the same view as me. So, it’s all a matter of perspective. Having said this… if you are living in Dubai and belong to the middle or lower economic class in your home country and get a chance to move to Canada or the West, JUMP ON THE OPPORTUNITY! this may seem like contradictory to my reaction on the lady’s views but it’s not … it’s a matter of perspective from two different realities.
No country is perfect. I respect everyone’s opinion but I believe that Dubai is the best most secure country in the world with a lot of business and growth opportunities and employment opportunities. That aside as far the grooming of children is concerned it depends upon the parents. Although environment do has an effect however in the end it’s the responsibility of parents to teach there children. I believe crime rates and mental health issues like LGBT and gender issues in Canada are far more dangerous for our children to deal with. America however is also great for growth if you understand their system.
Have been living in Canada for 20 yrs now ... and my siblings are in Dubai .. what is the bigggest point is to have this Precious Passport as the biggest Advantage .. then you can move where u like as many mentitned already being in Dubai is not forevrr .. Also for children higher education option as well ... what I noticed as a comparison is There is more spending power in Dubai , my grown up kids are literally inclined to move to Dubai once done with their education .. obvio because kf family, luxeries and Halal food choices hehe and easy chilll life as comapred to Canada .. where we all are working including my 15 and 17 yrs old .. who dont like luxeries if they are getting it and so close to Pak .. BUT just understsnd it might not be forever so whoever can should opt for atleast the Other nationality ...( Unfortunately going to Pak is a not a sane option anymore )my 4 yrs old is saying evwry day Dubai is Bettee than Canada ! Canada is so boring .... that could explain how Dubai can influence kidos mind
Assalam Alaikum wr wb Very interesting and healthy discussion. Just wanted to add few points I have been living in UAE for the last 16 plus years and raised my children here. To a great extent what she is referring to wrt to luxurious life style and its negative impact on family is true. However, its not impossible to lead a life in UAE without much indulgence in the extravagance. As she said that in the west one can avoid many ethical challenges being faced by moving in like minded people, same applies in UAE as well. One can move in circles where people are not engaged in the material rat race , we have found so many such families. Regards
Hello Wali, I have been following your content and there are lots of good insights so far. As way of introduction , I am also a Canadian who had moved from Dubai about 4 years ago but I have had the unique experience of having lived and worked in 4 countries , namely Oman , US, UAE and Canada right now . If you are interested in an English collab, please let me know
Living on a single income is not really “impossible” in NAmerica. Unless your car payments are 1500 dollars a month and you pay 50% of your take home pay on your rent or mortgage. If you have your finances under control it’s totally possible to live on a single income and still save some.
She is wrong as I raised 5 kids in Dubai for 14 years. Very happy to raise them in the most protective environment in the world. The best time of our life. Morally, financially, religiously and practically, it was the best grooming for kids and life we spent here.
But all those who have grown up in Dubai in my opinion always has a slave brain. I have never seen anyone born in Dubai to have a leader brain. Again, this is my opinion only.
Pros of UAE 1) law and order (no bullshit of refugees) 2) quality of life and income (resource distribution is good and everyone can enjoy in their own way) 3) 300+ days of sunshine (natural vitamin and happy hormone) 4) overall easy life as compared to other countries (domestic helpers , shopping, travelling, bills payments , online systems) 5) Business and property (nice demand overall) 6) Tasty and fancy food options (halal and not halal) Cons: 1) racism (white vs Arabic vs rest) 2) Artificial city no soul , no culture only show off of imaginary image (which is active inside uae only) 3) work with second tier of people in terms of best brains. 4) weather in general - less outdoor activities and more air conditioning lifestyle 5) no freedom of speech, if you are a person with opinions 6) Passport granting is extremely limited (theoretically impossible)
She is just exaggerating seriouslyy!! Simply what i feel , isko immigration karni thi , dubai helped and she moved simple Pakistani passport inho nay change karna tha simple The man in the podcast is correct
I would like to share my experience of living in Dubai for the past 10 years. During this time, I’ve had the opportunity to visit many countries across the world, and I can confidently say that, when compared to Europe, the UK, Canada, or the USA, Dubai is far ahead in terms of safety, security, and Islamic culture. In Dubai, we celebrate every Islamic occasion, and my children are well-versed in our religious practices. It’s easy to visit the mosque and perform our religious duties without any fear or discomfort. This is something that truly sets the UAE apart. My family holds Finnish citizenship, and I also have a TRC card, but I haven’t made the time to convert my TRC into PR because I’ve never been impressed with European culture when it comes to raising children. For me, there is no comparison between the UAE and Europe, Canada, or the USA. We are truly blessed to live in the UAE.
If you have a business in dubai, there is nothing like dubai anywhere. The life, services and access to the whole world is unmatched. If you are on job, stay for sometime, save money and move ahead. I am born and brought up in dubai and living and working in dubai since last 40 years. I also have a business in mississauga. I would always opt for dubai anyday and there is no comparison to this city from any other place. The main idea is to make lot of money in dubai as you will need lot of money to retire here and that can only be done if you are a smart worker and know how to tap the market. Job oriented people i wouldnt suggest them to spend lot of time in dubai. If someone wants to work for other people, then ofcourse income will be limited. In this case ill suggest move to west.
I believe she had her first living access outside Pak was Dubai. Once she could fly to Canada she is spilling beans about her views on dubai which she always had. She needs to realize dubai is the ticket for her to travel Canada and US
I really enjoy these videos. It shows how united and similar we are even if we come from different countries. Pursuit of a good life wins over anything. Lots of love from India.
She is absolutely wrong and I strongly disagree with her as consumerism is everywhere and I know people in US are also living paycheck to paycheck! The best thing in Dubai is tax free salary and only you need to be disciplined in your financials and the same is true with the kids!
Agreed You have to be disciplined with your financials irrespective where you live. I believe they have made good money in Dubai which helped them to move to USA
She is so wrong. I have been living in USA for forty years and it is up to a person how you want to live your life. She is willing to live in a country where you are introducing your children to the social problems that your kids are not accustomed to in Dubai or India or Pakistan like sex before marriage, LGBTQ and openly buying drugs like cannabis from the shops. She is only worried about the money and the lifestyle. The host is so right about that it is parents who raise their children not the other way around.
@hilifetravel8764 I totally agree with you she absolutely wrong I don't where she got this from I haven't a US citizen and living psy check to paycheck. What is she talk about. I see a lot of people earning tax earning tax free money and moving to USA on visitors visa and then buying businesses and acquiring green card.
You are absolutely right. I have seen the initial summary, but can someone please tell her can you compromise on below: - Source of all vulgarity is west - You can implement any of religious objectives of Islam in our personal life there in the presence of openly commited evil with no check and balance - In Australia, every woman is killed due to domestic violence every 4 days. Do you see that in Dubai or UAE? - The biggest issue here in west is the introduction of LGxxQ+ and exposure to a 5 year old in Kindergarten telling its okay and its normal. - No personal tax on income whilst in west, one pays huge taxes and those taxes are then used in place a muslim does not want it to be spent. - Makkaah and Madinah is just 2 hours 20 mins away where you can even visit on a long weekend and get your sins wash off every month.
Daycare is very expensive here in Canada and can go up to $1000, also depending on your personal/family income. There are subsidies but not everyone is eligible for them.
Thanks million for this podcast, you both made my doubts so clear. I really loved the aspect that staying in Middle East makes our children so easy going that they may not face the hardships of life n it’s important for them to come out of the comfort zones by immigration.
Here in America 🇺🇸, a truck driver who has his own truck easily earns 2 to 2.5k US dollars 💵 in a year😊. Does a truck driver in Dubai earn this much money in a year?…. Plz make the next video accordingly!! If someone wants to do business then America is paradise for him!
Business in any region can be a tricky thing as it’s a risk at the end of the day. Success and failure of any business depends upon through market research and analysis. Most startup businesses fail and no one talks about them as no one wants to discuss their failures but only project their successes. While truck drivers might be earning this amount as might be told to you by someone however I don’t believe it to be 100% correct. Please don’t believe every hearsay that you are told by people. Trust me you don’t want to be a driver and believe me you will sure not make much money through it. I have spoken to drivers there and many of them are in losses. Moreover they also complain about medical health issues that they face associated with prolonged driving like back pains and obesity etc. Drivers in Dubai used make a lot of money earlier before 2022 however now the market is over saturated and therefore can not make the same earnings. Most of them are barely able to pay for their own living expenses. Drivers however working for some companies or government are doing fine. Now obviously if you are living in a Marina or Downtown then the earnings will not b sufficient for u to survive there.
The main thing is that uae as whole or me countries is a temporary destination, especially south Asians, because neither of the countries provide you permanent residency
Good discussion. I moved to Canada in 2002 and then lived in Bahrain from 2007 to 2015 and back in Canada ever since. I agree with most of your observations.
Dear Wali Thanks for the podcast, i have listened to all your podcasts featuring Bahroz and Batool. One point i would like you to discuss in the case of Bahroz and family is that how much savings did they have when they move to Canada? It is a very important decision factor, if someone does not have same level of savings as Bahroz and family, Do you think points raised by Batool and Bahroz on moving to Canada from ME are stil relevant?
although some points raised by Batool are relevant but most of the justifications made by her to not move to dubai seem very out of touch with reality. Most people move from Canada to UAE 1. because of making money. 2. because of sever cultural problems. What about the fact that people can save and make same money in 5 years what you they will save and make in canada in 15-20 years?
@@HashimMalik-j2d - Don't look Canada in Isolation and in a short time span from wealth point of view.. it opens up the doors for you to move to USA or have access to USA economy which is very high on income levels and low on taxes.... my recommendation is to always look at things from a long term lens...
@@HashimMalik-j2d Not True. Dubai you can earn and not save also. In Dubai you have to pay Child Tuition, Healthcare costs. Others costs also adds up. Also, compare the Salaries with the cost of living also. Cultural problem is overhyped also. Thousands of Desi kids are growing up in Canada without any so called "woke" issues. These kids are doing great in school and their careers in a country that they can call home. Middle East will never be home. You will always be a non-resident even with the so called Golden visa.
@@rameshpratap20 Agreed to most of what you are saying, still in most situations people have better financial situation in middle.east as compared to Canada. Whenever i am in Canada every second person i meet there wants to move to UAE mostly because of no savings there. Middle east can't be home is not relevant here since we are discussing moving from Canada to UAE., you can move back to Canada whenever you want.
Totally disagree with the lady. I when lived my entire life in Dubai and raised kids like my parents raised us in Dubai. Dubai has given us opportunity to flourish and raise kids in a safe and islamic environment. People in Canada where i have a family unfortunately are bleeding money through taxes and cost of living. You can live in Dubai frugally too. consumerism culture exists every where. You need have the discipline to live/ save/invest wisely no later whee we live. Let’s not ones experiences paint the entire canvas dark.
Wrong perspective about Dubai. From a south asian background, being born and raised in Dubai and now living in North America, i do not agree on your comments about the lifestyle in dubai. You chose to live the luxury life by not considering if you really need all of it. You can live the same way in dubai how you live currently in North America. Dubai is perfect.
Couple works in North America because of independence and benefits they both earn their pension, there is exposure to learning skills. Working both family members growing in society with social independence. In Dubai there is no rights and social growth, in Dubai you never feel home and stay in slavery environment.
Lived in dubai 8 years JLT i cluster gold tower was my office and i lived in Greens near Tcom. it was a great experience, now in spain here madical system is worlds number 1. Yeah Tax high but its all refundable if you get sick, unemployee or live more then 62 years.
I disagree with the safety for personal belongings. Had a very bad experience two years back at Dubai airport. During security check they made me take out my gold bangles and jacket last minute and since it was around 2am and traveling with kids with so many buckets being scanned i forgot to take my bangles and jacket and I remembered after two weeks . I emailed Emirates airline and my relatives went in person to file complaint they couldn’t track it.
About her comment on raising children, looks like she is ok with the increasing LGBTQ issue in schools in Canada. Having access to luxury is nothing compared to that.
UAE ETC IS GOOD TO MAKE MONEY short term .. or best is go to middle east, save, get PR in western country and see if you can get real ex pat job back in Middle east! but any way long term either you go back to your original country or western countries ( including Singapore) now a days also UAE is so expensive , rents are similar to western countries but are salaries there to match ?
I am Bharat from India, I chose Sharjah over Vancouver despite low numbers in my religion, reason, cost, crime, fentanyl, free culture, gang wars, etc etc and US please add gun culture
Sir you are so on point clear 👍 ma'am perception is not at all right for asking people not to go Dubai if you have kids😊 its depends how parents give values and ethics at home, schooling first start at home not outside, I am really shocked to know that after having such a good job in Dubai they don't have good financial saving , it depends on person itself to plan and do proper planning for saving, it's not about place or any country. DUBAI 🇦🇪 is so safe and secure with every aspect.
Not everybody is rich in Dubai. Most foreign workers, Pakistani, Indian and Philippines people are very poor. On a recent visit to Dubai my hotel staff, cleaners drivers told me they got paid only 1,500 DHS and they clean 20 rooms a day. They have to share room with 4/5 people. There are hardly any employee rights.
Great to see such thought provoking discussion.however, not convinced with Batool's point...t's all about how you are raising your children in any country, I stayed 13 yrs, the quality of life, the exposure of diversified culture, the s afety and respect of woman, it's matchless.yes, for bachelor's camps environment snd transportation of low salaried workers, it must be improved.
This is only her perspective firstly if they moved from Pakistan left highly paid job was not right decision for others it seems both tht lady and her husband like difficult life like chalanges .This is not fault of Dubai its depand on parents also we can observe low salaried parents from India,Bangladesh also living with children.u hv to make life on your situations.In Pakistan also if your child styding in high profile insitution with wealthy children also face the same situation like Dubai So plz dont spread only personal views make videos on bigger perspectives.
Btw… single income lifestyle is definitely possible in North America as well… my parents raised a family of 5 on a single income. It’s all a matter of adjusting your lifestyle according to your income. The lady needs to spend 10 more years in Canada to formulate a more informed view.
I have worked in UAE 6 months back in 2014, and I visit Dubai like twice a year for the last few years. Entirely different reason for leaving UAE. Now, I am more inclined towards moving to UAE as soon as I can from Europe after living here for 16 years. I think anything is better to protect your children from woke liberal LGBTQ rubbish. Also, the taxes in the western world are painful. I would strongly argue Batool, for the reasons she has stated are quite subjective. My daughter is missing the experience of family and relatives, which we grew up with. There are a million more reasons I can suggest to move to M.E. Times are changing fast, things are only going to get worse in the West.
She provided good insight. But why she mentioned Europe, and all other countries when she has got only Canadian exposure? Also, why taking about Indian when she is a Pakistani! It means she is not speaking with conviction. Very embryonic
I lived in the US for past 30 years. I have tried this move a few years back thinking we should live in a “Muslim” country. I lived in Mirdiff. In one year I left to go back to US. My gripes. Racism, no rights, no freedom of speech, discrimination on government level, standard of living general. To best honest, I rather move to Pakistan than Dubai.
Totally agreed with the lady. There’s a greater difference with people of Pakistan only passport and dual citizenship holders want to change their lifestyle!!
Why confusing everyone. I have seen your videos and it seems whole world is unfit to live. Every place has its pros and cons and living circumstances is different for each family and their priorities.
Schooling in US and Canada is definitely better, also the county public schools in good community is free and more wholesome.one thing is the parents have to make a an effort to keep regular visits to the Islamic community centers. Even those centers have good activities during Ramadan, school holidays etc. ❤
You cannot give to beggers - where is the freedom. I cannot trade my freedom for money, luxury, hype. Freedom is priceless for everything else you have master card
Hi Wali, I have recently started following your channel. Thanks for sharing the content. Everyone has different experiences and one should understand and respect it. But, since the interview is in public space so I wanted to give my 2 cents so that people also get other perspective. I have lived in UK and currently living in Abu Dhabi. I tend to disagree with the lady. I will pick some points from her one interventions: She mentioned that they were saving more in NA than Dubai while her husband was CFO of P&G in Dubai. That says it all. If you don’t have saving mindset here and you’re in competition to give yourself and kid a high end lifestyle then there’s no limit. Since UAE doesn’t give you citizenship, those who spend most of what they earn are missing the whole point of moving to UAE. If they moved to NA without job, they most likely developed a saving attitude that is helping them till now and they are saving more, with all the taxes. She mentioned about safety in Dubai. That’s the most basic thing one needs for themselves and the kids. One thing she needs to realize that US experience is NOT an international experience. It’s the demand of the local market and relevant experience that is preferred everywhere. What she didn’t tell was that NA was a never ending cycle of effort and hard work, with passport as a return. Everyone has right to prefer passport over money but saying that you save less in UAE than NA is a lie. She probably is in a phase of denial to justify their move to NA. The typical with many who move to Canada. Since they themselves have moved to US after Canada shows that Canada didn’t serve much purpose than a different colored passport. Overall, this comparison of moving to GCC and NA/Europe makes little sense. GCC is about making money, and save for future moves. Latter is mostly for passport and different citizenship for you and your kids, that doesn’t help you save much. I wanted to share my thoughts for viewers to not get carried away with one side of the story. Thanks.
Not really. That was 30 years ago. It's declined every year since. Economy is dependent on them creating wars in other countries as that's how they keep their country above others. It's founded on blood, and continues to be founded on blood.
What kind of reason is that about luxury?? Is it not there in Canada ? Dubai is so secure for kids and to make them value money depends on parents..consumership is given by US to all.over the world.
Also teenagers have more opportunities in US/CANADA LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE PROGRAMS SUITED TO DIFFERENT STUDENTS, THEN THE TRANSITION INTO UNIVERSITIES IS EASY PLUS THE SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE AS IN STUDENT LOANS AND MANY SCHOLARSHIPS PROGRAMS.
Oh for sure. I moved out of Dubai and went to USA couple of decades back. I would NEVER go back to Dubai. It's a flashy artificial world where there is absolutely nothing to do; no geographical proximity to anything worth driving to. Pathetic work culture and work environment; no value or respect of personal and family life. Ridiculously expensive. The ONLY POSITIVE is close distance to family back home.
Uae is far behind from usa. I live in us last ten years and i recently visited uae two months ago and i experienced in uae u have to pay everything for ur necessities of life like schooling,health and even golden visa is not permanent and u have to pay every certain time to renewal.
If the offer from Dubai was considerably good then one should shift because moving is big deal especially to a work culture which is a bit strict considering west and Australia is more relaxed. Secondly the move should be paying off in terms of one leaving permanent jobs to jobs which have a one month notice period even being permanent. Lastly salaries in uae are no longer at the same level what they were before. After covid they have squeezed packages and considering the tax free portion is usually the incentive to move alongside the school fees they offer. Move to UAE if both husband and wife packages are good. I consider 35K aed plus school fees a good package to move for. Again it isn’t permanent there and tomorrow say they get affected by virus or iran war etc they will just ask you to leave. So decide based on circumstances
They r happy bcz they got PR of canada and usa so now they can sav here and whenever they want to move they can and future of their kids r secure .they can send their kids f higher studies any where but in dubai ,after matric what abt kids higher studies,what abt PR
This does not mean people shoujd not move. What about children of parents who are in transferable jobs. So it depends on parents how they expose their children and ask them to adjust
As of now the conversation itself is meaning less to compare the US and Canada with UAE where as UAE is only a place of luxury life and investment from the people from different countries who make money by Mal practices and avoid taxes and send it through hawala and get immunity in UAE enjoy luxurious life while US and Canada and other European countries have their intellectual properties that are necessary to survive and feel secure with our family, society with basic amenities and continuous improvement
I really like your topic of podcast. I believe batool her self give more points to Dubai. Though she won't go back. Being a Canadian and 20 years of gulf experience i believe gulf is more secure for kids and moreover they can be intact to religion as well. Where as if your kids lose life security and religion then you lose everything..there is no return. There are so many such examples in north America
@@muhammadyousaf786 I'm security tired of this shit life living in dirty camps with dirty slave pple no best salary don't know where can I find job with no fucking degree
Majority of the people living in canada are living pay cheq to pay cheq,no saving..due to extreme cold temperatures, kids r unable to play outside. Mortgages and living costs are too much. Lgbt and related things in curricullum is another chalenge. Too much screen time is another big issue.atleast in duabi or in gulf, kids have silamic culture. Regarding finances, unless and unless you do some business, it will take you somewhere in life but if you keep doing jobs for long, life would be on oay cheq to pay check. You earn and give money to state.
I'm glad there's a channel where educated people can have a discussion on Pakistani issues. You don't have to agree with Batool or Wali, but we should welcome educated conversations. Try and learn from their experience, rather than considering it universal truth. Well done Wali bhai.
Being born in Pakistan, moving to Canada at the age of 14 in late 80’s … then living in Canada, educating, getting married, having kids, working until 2014 and then moving with the family to Dubai… I can say I’m somewhat of an expert in family life (traditional family) in Canada, Pakistan and Dubai. I think the lady maybe fine in her own personal experience of living in Dubai … but she really doesn’t paint the correct picture of the experience of people like me. Tons of people ask me for advice on moving to Dubai and I always tell them that if they can find a job in a certain salary range then definitely move to Dubai. Especially if they would like to live in a traditional, safe, advanced and welcoming environment. My entire extended family is in Canada, US or UK… and visit every year. Whenever I visit I feel like im in an unsafe, unfriendly and broken place compared to Dubai. Living in Dubai I have the ability to not only positively impact my immediate family but also my extended family, friends and other needy people. I can not do the same working in Canada. My entire circle of friends that are expat Canadians with kids are of the same view as me. So, it’s all a matter of perspective.
Having said this… if you are living in Dubai and belong to the middle or lower economic class in your home country and get a chance to move to Canada or the West, JUMP ON THE OPPORTUNITY! this may seem like contradictory to my reaction on the lady’s views but it’s not … it’s a matter of perspective from two different realities.
Glad to know that you are enjoying living in Dubai.because I also want to move Dubai from USA.
As a 🇨🇦 citizen who lived here my whole life, I agree.
I left Dubai in 2018, and I agree with you. Dubai is not good for the family, especially for the kids. But every person has a different perspective.
Uae is not giving passport is the main reason so I left dubai
@@Jahangirsultan-iz4bk You are wasting your time in Dubai. You will be an expat all your life in Dubai.
Where would you raise your kids? They not getting proper education from parents? All starts with parents.
So USA is better with all the strip clubs and gun crime and school shooting that happens every month for last 15 years?
How long you live in dubai? Premature comments without any base
No country is perfect. I respect everyone’s opinion but I believe that Dubai is the best most secure country in the world with a lot of business and growth opportunities and employment opportunities. That aside as far the grooming of children is concerned it depends upon the parents. Although environment do has an effect however in the end it’s the responsibility of parents to teach there children. I believe crime rates and mental health issues like LGBT and gender issues in Canada are far more dangerous for our children to deal with. America however is also great for growth if you understand their system.
Very true analysis.
Yes I live in America and believe me LGBT crap and gun laws are main concerns for kids besides drugs on campuses.
I fully agree with you.
We are putting our kids on risk in North America.
Money and life comfort is not everything
She is right word to word agreed. I am living in UAE Since 1994 to till today
My son is an American citizen I want him to complete his high school education from Dubai Can you tell me its procedure and its fees?
What kind of job u do and how much money u make????
Dajjal city
Have been living in Canada for 20 yrs now ... and my siblings are in Dubai .. what is the bigggest point is to have this Precious Passport as the biggest Advantage .. then you can move where u like as many mentitned already being in Dubai is not forevrr .. Also for children higher education option as well ... what I noticed as a comparison is There is more spending power in Dubai , my grown up kids are literally inclined to move to Dubai once done with their education .. obvio because kf family, luxeries and Halal food choices hehe and easy chilll life as comapred to Canada .. where we all are working including my 15 and 17 yrs old .. who dont like luxeries if they are getting it and so close to Pak .. BUT just understsnd it might not be forever so whoever can should opt for atleast the Other nationality ...( Unfortunately going to Pak is a not a sane option anymore )my 4 yrs old is saying evwry day Dubai is Bettee than Canada ! Canada is so boring .... that could explain how Dubai can influence kidos mind
PR?
Assalam Alaikum wr wb
Very interesting and healthy discussion.
Just wanted to add few points
I have been living in UAE for the last 16 plus years and raised my children here.
To a great extent what she is referring to wrt to luxurious life style and its negative impact on family is true.
However, its not impossible to lead a life in UAE without much indulgence in the extravagance.
As she said that in the west one can avoid many ethical challenges being faced by moving in like minded people, same applies in UAE as well.
One can move in circles where people are not engaged in the material rat race , we have found so many such families.
Regards
Agreed, there could be a different circle of friends which can keep you grounded.
Hello Wali, I have been following your content and there are lots of good insights so far. As way of introduction , I am also a Canadian who had moved from Dubai about 4 years ago but I have had the unique experience of having lived and worked in 4 countries , namely Oman , US, UAE and Canada right now . If you are interested in an English collab, please let me know
Living on a single income is not really “impossible” in NAmerica. Unless your car payments are 1500 dollars a month and you pay 50% of your take home pay on your rent or mortgage. If you have your finances under control it’s totally possible to live on a single income and still save some.
She is wrong as I raised 5 kids in Dubai for 14 years. Very happy to raise them in the most protective environment in the world. The best time of our life. Morally, financially, religiously and practically, it was the best grooming for kids and life we spent here.
True,
She sure has some bad taste or grudge with dubai. Baseless argument
But all those who have grown up in Dubai in my opinion always has a slave brain. I have never seen anyone born in Dubai to have a leader brain. Again, this is my opinion only.
It's simple: If your priority is religion move/stay in Middle East
Pros of UAE
1) law and order (no bullshit of refugees)
2) quality of life and income (resource distribution is good and everyone can enjoy in their own way)
3) 300+ days of sunshine (natural vitamin and happy hormone)
4) overall easy life as compared to other countries (domestic helpers , shopping, travelling, bills payments , online systems)
5) Business and property (nice demand overall)
6) Tasty and fancy food options (halal and not halal)
Cons:
1) racism (white vs Arabic vs rest)
2) Artificial city no soul , no culture only show off of imaginary image (which is active inside uae only)
3) work with second tier of people in terms of best brains.
4) weather in general - less outdoor activities and more air conditioning lifestyle
5) no freedom of speech, if you are a person with opinions
6) Passport granting is extremely limited (theoretically impossible)
Also hub of dajjal and bound for doooom
Life is easy if you're filthy rich.
Spot on
6 . When visa cancelled than leave thr country with in 30 days . Even work and live here 30 years
@@Samie.8789 not less than bullshit. Dajjal is inside everyone of us when we lie , commit crime and do all evils in hope that we will be forgiven.
She is just exaggerating seriouslyy!!
Simply what i feel , isko immigration karni thi , dubai helped and she moved simple
Pakistani passport inho nay change karna tha simple
The man in the podcast is correct
Sir I live in Dubai
I solute you and your Guest for such open mindedly Talking
Great podcast ...loved it watching from India.
I would like to share my experience of living in Dubai for the past 10 years. During this time, I’ve had the opportunity to visit many countries across the world, and I can confidently say that, when compared to Europe, the UK, Canada, or the USA, Dubai is far ahead in terms of safety, security, and Islamic culture.
In Dubai, we celebrate every Islamic occasion, and my children are well-versed in our religious practices. It’s easy to visit the mosque and perform our religious duties without any fear or discomfort. This is something that truly sets the UAE apart.
My family holds Finnish citizenship, and I also have a TRC card, but I haven’t made the time to convert my TRC into PR because I’ve never been impressed with European culture when it comes to raising children.
For me, there is no comparison between the UAE and Europe, Canada, or the USA. We are truly blessed to live in the UAE.
If you have a business in dubai, there is nothing like dubai anywhere. The life, services and access to the whole world is unmatched. If you are on job, stay for sometime, save money and move ahead. I am born and brought up in dubai and living and working in dubai since last 40 years. I also have a business in mississauga. I would always opt for dubai anyday and there is no comparison to this city from any other place. The main idea is to make lot of money in dubai as you will need lot of money to retire here and that can only be done if you are a smart worker and know how to tap the market. Job oriented people i wouldnt suggest them to spend lot of time in dubai. If someone wants to work for other people, then ofcourse income will be limited. In this case ill suggest move to west.
At 1:00 what your guest was discussing about, I want to ask the sacrifices that her family is giving, are they worthwhile to live in the west?
Really interesting discussion, thanks to both the host and the guest
My cousin works in Dubai and has been living there for many years. He sent his son after class 12 to a top University in US for undergrad.
I believe she had her first living access outside Pak was Dubai. Once she could fly to Canada she is spilling beans about her views on dubai which she always had. She needs to realize dubai is the ticket for her to travel Canada and US
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Seriously how ungrateful she is to Dubai.The place where she in millions to live a life in Canada.
@@rukshanaab999 exactly
What does that have to do with anything? Woh Dubai ki wah wah karti rahain saari zindagi? Point of this conversation is to show pros and cons.
I live and work in duabi but I would like to raise my childs either in Jeddah/Makkah region.
I really enjoy these videos. It shows how united and similar we are even if we come from different countries. Pursuit of a good life wins over anything. Lots of love from India.
Savings is the habbit, income is your personality. You can make the change anywhere you live.
Your show is really great and very informative . Well Done ! Keep It Up !
Good to listen to you batool, the way u talk is really impressive
Aoa Wali, l am currently living in Australia considering moving to Dubai. Is Abu Dhabi better place than in regards to some issues raised by Batool?
Who is batool
Stay in australia dear
@@lachmandevjee5307The lady guest.
Yes Abu Dhabi is much better believe me
Are you AUS PR ? and depends upon your profession , UAE is good if you get good money and free accommodation? but you will never get PR
33:03 beggars came mostly from Pakistan. They follow their prime minister.
She is absolutely wrong and I strongly disagree with her as consumerism is everywhere and I know people in US are also living paycheck to paycheck! The best thing in Dubai is tax free salary and only you need to be disciplined in your financials and the same is true with the kids!
Agreed
You have to be disciplined with your financials irrespective where you live.
I believe they have made good money in Dubai which helped them to move to USA
There's a thing called entitlement and I think that in itself is a reason enough to move from dubai. As she mentions about kids getting summer jobs
She is so wrong. I have been living in USA for forty years and it is up to a person how you want to live your life. She is willing to live in a country where you are introducing your children to the social problems that your kids are not accustomed to in Dubai or India or Pakistan like sex before marriage, LGBTQ and openly buying drugs like cannabis from the shops. She is only worried about the money and the lifestyle. The host is so right about that it is parents who raise their children not the other way around.
Does UAE gives you true PR? forget citizenship NO never
@hilifetravel8764 I totally agree with you she absolutely wrong I don't where she got this from I haven't a US citizen and living psy check to paycheck. What is she talk about. I see a lot of people earning tax earning tax free money and moving to USA on visitors visa and then buying businesses and acquiring green card.
She is willing to have influence of LGBTQ on her kids but she is not willing to.let her kids see luxury. Can we even balance both these things ??
You are so right.
You are absolutely right. I have seen the initial summary, but can someone please tell her can you compromise on below:
- Source of all vulgarity is west
- You can implement any of religious objectives of Islam in our personal life there in the presence of openly commited evil with no check and balance
- In Australia, every woman is killed due to domestic violence every 4 days. Do you see that in Dubai or UAE?
- The biggest issue here in west is the introduction of LGxxQ+ and exposure to a 5 year old in Kindergarten telling its okay and its normal.
- No personal tax on income whilst in west, one pays huge taxes and those taxes are then used in place a muslim does not want it to be spent.
- Makkaah and Madinah is just 2 hours 20 mins away where you can even visit on a long weekend and get your sins wash off every month.
Daycare is very expensive here in Canada and can go up to $1000, also depending on your personal/family income. There are subsidies but not everyone is eligible for them.
Where do you get this $1000 from
Spending habit is a very personal thing and this habit evolves everywhere, it does not matter if you are in Dubai or Canada, this point is immaterial
Thanks million for this podcast, you both made my doubts so clear. I really loved the aspect that staying in Middle East makes our children so easy going that they may not face the hardships of life n it’s important for them to come out of the comfort zones by immigration.
I dont agree with her the amount of savings possible in dubai is not possible in north America or Europe.. nice discussion though anyways
Living in Australia from last 17 years and I 100% agree with you
Note North America also Include USA - which is one of the most highest paying countries in the west.
Very informative velog .Keep it up .
Here in America 🇺🇸, a truck driver who has his own truck easily earns 2 to 2.5k US dollars 💵 in a year😊. Does a truck driver in Dubai earn this much money in a year?…. Plz make the next video accordingly!! If someone wants to do business then America is paradise for him!
Business in any region can be a tricky thing as it’s a risk at the end of the day. Success and failure of any business depends upon through market research and analysis. Most startup businesses fail and no one talks about them as no one wants to discuss their failures but only project their successes. While truck drivers might be earning this amount as might be told to you by someone however I don’t believe it to be 100% correct. Please don’t believe every hearsay that you are told by people. Trust me you don’t want to be a driver and believe me you will sure not make much money through it. I have spoken to drivers there and many of them are in losses. Moreover they also complain about medical health issues that they face associated with prolonged driving like back pains and obesity etc.
Drivers in Dubai used make a lot of money earlier before 2022 however now the market is over saturated and therefore can not make the same earnings. Most of them are barely able to pay for their own living expenses. Drivers however working for some companies or government are doing fine. Now obviously if you are living in a Marina or Downtown then the earnings will not b sufficient for u to survive there.
U mean 200k to 250k...?
@@enigma_88 Yes, truck owner operators earn that much money!!
The main thing is that uae as whole or me countries is a temporary destination, especially south Asians, because neither of the countries provide you permanent residency
Good discussion. I moved to Canada in 2002 and then lived in Bahrain from 2007 to 2015 and back in Canada ever since. I agree with most of your observations.
Bahrain is good for old people. 50+ I'm in My 30s and seriously considering canada as an option
@@osamajamil428brother 50 isn’t old. I’m 50 and I still feel like how I felt in my 30s
Dear Wali
Thanks for the podcast, i have listened to all your podcasts featuring Bahroz and Batool.
One point i would like you to discuss in the case of Bahroz and family is that how much savings did they have when they move to Canada?
It is a very important decision factor, if someone does not have same level of savings as Bahroz and family, Do you think points raised by Batool and Bahroz on moving to Canada from ME are stil relevant?
Similar pointers are discussed in our upcoming podcast with Bahroz on English Channel - would be live on coming Saturday
although some points raised by Batool are relevant but most of the justifications made by her to not move to dubai seem very out of touch with reality.
Most people move from Canada to UAE
1. because of making money.
2. because of sever cultural problems.
What about the fact that people can save and make same money in 5 years what you they will save and make in canada in 15-20 years?
@@HashimMalik-j2d - Don't look Canada in Isolation and in a short time span from wealth point of view.. it opens up the doors for you to move to USA or have access to USA economy which is very high on income levels and low on taxes.... my recommendation is to always look at things from a long term lens...
@@HashimMalik-j2d Not True. Dubai you can earn and not save also. In Dubai you have to pay Child Tuition, Healthcare costs. Others costs also adds up. Also, compare the Salaries with the cost of living also. Cultural problem is overhyped also. Thousands of Desi kids are growing up in Canada without any so called "woke" issues. These kids are doing great in school and their careers in a country that they can call home. Middle East will never be home. You will always be a non-resident even with the so called Golden visa.
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Agreed to most of what you are saying,
still in most situations people have better financial situation in middle.east as compared to Canada.
Whenever i am in Canada every second person i meet there wants to move to UAE mostly because of no savings there.
Middle east can't be home is not relevant here since we are discussing moving from Canada to UAE.,
you can move back to Canada whenever you want.
Totally disagree with the lady. I when lived my entire life in Dubai and raised kids like my parents raised us in Dubai. Dubai has given us opportunity to flourish and raise kids in a safe and islamic environment. People in Canada where i have a family unfortunately are bleeding money through taxes and cost of living. You can live in Dubai frugally too. consumerism culture exists every where. You need have the discipline to live/ save/invest wisely no later whee we live. Let’s not ones experiences paint the entire canvas dark.
Wrong perspective about Dubai. From a south asian background, being born and raised in Dubai and now living in North America, i do not agree on your comments about the lifestyle in dubai. You chose to live the luxury life by not considering if you really need all of it. You can live the same way in dubai how you live currently in North America.
Dubai is perfect.
Couple works in North America because of independence and benefits they both earn their pension, there is exposure to learning skills.
Working both family members growing in society with social independence.
In Dubai there is no rights and social growth, in Dubai you never feel home and stay in slavery environment.
Thanks for guiding us
Lived in dubai 8 years JLT i cluster gold tower was my office and i lived in Greens near Tcom. it was a great experience, now in spain here madical system is worlds number 1.
Yeah Tax high but its all refundable if you get sick, unemployee or live more then 62 years.
I disagree with the safety for personal belongings. Had a very bad experience two years back at Dubai airport. During security check they made me take out my gold bangles and jacket last minute and since it was around 2am and traveling with kids with so many buckets being scanned i forgot to take my bangles and jacket and I remembered after two weeks . I emailed Emirates airline and my relatives went in person to file complaint they couldn’t track it.
About her comment on raising children, looks like she is ok with the increasing LGBTQ issue in schools in Canada. Having access to luxury is nothing compared to that.
UAE ETC IS GOOD TO MAKE MONEY short term .. or best is go to middle east, save, get PR in western country and see if you can get real ex pat job back in Middle east! but any way long term either you go back to your original country or western countries ( including Singapore) now a days also UAE is so expensive , rents are similar to western countries but are salaries there to match ?
The whole life you spent moving from one city to another, from one country to another.. from one job to another.
She is a good Mother
I am Bharat from India, I chose Sharjah over Vancouver despite low numbers in my religion, reason, cost, crime, fentanyl, free culture, gang wars, etc etc and US please add gun culture
What job u do? And how much u make?
Sir you are so on point clear 👍 ma'am perception is not at all right for asking people not to go Dubai if you have kids😊 its depends how parents give values and ethics at home, schooling first start at home not outside, I am really shocked to know that after having such a good job in Dubai they don't have good financial saving , it depends on person itself to plan and do proper planning for saving, it's not about place or any country. DUBAI 🇦🇪 is so safe and secure with every aspect.
Not everybody is rich in Dubai. Most foreign workers, Pakistani, Indian and Philippines people are very poor. On a recent visit to Dubai my hotel staff, cleaners drivers told me they got paid only 1,500 DHS and they clean 20 rooms a day. They have to share room with 4/5 people. There are hardly any employee rights.
Great to see such thought provoking discussion.however, not convinced with Batool's point...t's all about how you are raising your children in any country, I stayed 13 yrs, the quality of life, the exposure of diversified culture, the s
afety and respect of woman, it's matchless.yes, for bachelor's camps environment snd transportation of low salaried workers, it must be improved.
Candid, Informative and Really helping. Thanks Wali and Guest.
This is only her perspective firstly if they moved from Pakistan left highly paid job was not right decision for others it seems both tht lady and her husband like difficult life like chalanges .This is not fault of Dubai its depand on parents also we can observe low salaried parents from India,Bangladesh also living with children.u hv to make life on your situations.In Pakistan also if your child styding in high profile insitution with wealthy children also face the same situation like Dubai So plz dont spread only personal views make videos on bigger perspectives.
you’re right
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Same is situation now people moving from Uk 🇬🇧 to Dubai to America 🇺🇸
She belongs to the Mom and dad group tons of people left Europe and west and stayed on gulf
I moved to USA from Dubai got the shock of my life after 9pm every thing closed hardly find any store open it’s like Jungle
All women should wear Hijab/Burqa.
All should pray 5 times Namaz daily.
Btw… single income lifestyle is definitely possible in North America as well… my parents raised a family of 5 on a single income. It’s all a matter of adjusting your lifestyle according to your income. The lady needs to spend 10 more years in Canada to formulate a more informed view.
Baharoz bhai ne smart reasoning ke through bhabi ko motivate ker liya hai waha rehny ke liye aur khud uae life enjoy ker rahy hain 😅
The value of western Passport is high in Middle East countries and the benefits are better
Very informative and impressive.
I have worked in UAE 6 months back in 2014, and I visit Dubai like twice a year for the last few years. Entirely different reason for leaving UAE. Now, I am more inclined towards moving to UAE as soon as I can from Europe after living here for 16 years. I think anything is better to protect your children from woke liberal LGBTQ rubbish. Also, the taxes in the western world are painful. I would strongly argue Batool, for the reasons she has stated are quite subjective. My daughter is missing the experience of family and relatives, which we grew up with. There are a million more reasons I can suggest to move to M.E. Times are changing fast, things are only going to get worse in the West.
I agree 100 % western life is very tough for families
She provided good insight.
But why she mentioned Europe, and all other countries when she has got only Canadian exposure?
Also, why taking about Indian when she is a Pakistani!
It means she is not speaking with conviction. Very embryonic
Great pod, well covered
Sir I try to come Dubai . I am from India. so I will come or not
Question not clear dear.
@@WaliKhan_2kwoh ap se Dubai aane k liye mashwara mang raha hai😊
@@lachmandevjee5307😅😅😅
In UK even from year 9 they encourage for work experience
I lived in the US for past 30 years.
I have tried this move a few years back thinking we should live in a “Muslim” country. I lived in Mirdiff. In one year I left to go back to US. My gripes. Racism, no rights, no freedom of speech, discrimination on government level, standard of living general. To best honest, I rather move to Pakistan than Dubai.
Totally agreed with the lady. There’s a greater difference with people of Pakistan only passport and dual citizenship holders want to change their lifestyle!!
Why confusing everyone. I have seen your videos and it seems whole world is unfit to live. Every place has its pros and cons and living circumstances is different for each family and their priorities.
Schooling in US and Canada is definitely better, also the county public schools in good community is free and more wholesome.one thing is the parents have to make a an effort to keep regular visits to the Islamic community centers. Even those centers have good activities during Ramadan, school holidays etc. ❤
You cannot give to beggers - where is the freedom. I cannot trade my freedom for money, luxury, hype. Freedom is priceless for everything else you have master card
Worse problem in UAE when visa cancelled than leave the country 30 to 60 days .even work and leave in Dubai for 20 years
Assalamualaikum, I know several families where only one spouse works in North America. It works fine!
Sir please tell us how is omAn 🇴🇲 maskat
Hey Wali born n raised in Dubai..lived in US...podcast me sometime
Hi Wali,
I have recently started following your channel. Thanks for sharing the content.
Everyone has different experiences and one should understand and respect it. But, since the interview is in public space so I wanted to give my 2 cents so that people also get other perspective.
I have lived in UK and currently living in Abu Dhabi. I tend to disagree with the lady. I will pick some points from her one interventions:
She mentioned that they were saving more in NA than Dubai while her husband was CFO of P&G in Dubai. That says it all. If you don’t have saving mindset here and you’re in competition to give yourself and kid a high end lifestyle then there’s no limit. Since UAE doesn’t give you citizenship, those who spend most of what they earn are missing the whole point of moving to UAE.
If they moved to NA without job, they most likely developed a saving attitude that is helping them till now and they are saving more, with all the taxes.
She mentioned about safety in Dubai. That’s the most basic thing one needs for themselves and the kids.
One thing she needs to realize that US experience is NOT an international experience. It’s the demand of the local market and relevant experience that is preferred everywhere.
What she didn’t tell was that NA was a never ending cycle of effort and hard work, with passport as a return. Everyone has right to prefer passport over money but saying that you save less in UAE than NA is a lie.
She probably is in a phase of denial to justify their move to NA. The typical with many who move to Canada.
Since they themselves have moved to US after Canada shows that Canada didn’t serve much purpose than a different colored passport.
Overall, this comparison of moving to GCC and NA/Europe makes little sense. GCC is about making money, and save for future moves. Latter is mostly for passport and different citizenship for you and your kids, that doesn’t help you save much.
I wanted to share my thoughts for viewers to not get carried away with one side of the story.
Thanks.
Nothing is better than usa 🇺🇸, thriving economy, excellent infrastructure, top notch education and above all freedom of religion
Not really. That was 30 years ago. It's declined every year since. Economy is dependent on them creating wars in other countries as that's how they keep their country above others. It's founded on blood, and continues to be founded on blood.
Btw for u r I for many baloch have uae pspt but only baloch.
Fair point by the woman! There is a luxury culture in Dubai that’s needs high sustainability
What kind of reason is that about luxury?? Is it not there in Canada ? Dubai is so secure for kids and to make them value money depends on parents..consumership is given by US to all.over the world.
It all depends on how your manage your life style and spending..but then as Muslim at list for the sake of kids Dubai is better.
It seems private friends chat on public forum? Friends are talking
Dubai is not giving passport for expats
Also teenagers have more opportunities in US/CANADA LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE PROGRAMS SUITED TO DIFFERENT STUDENTS, THEN THE TRANSITION INTO UNIVERSITIES IS EASY PLUS THE SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE AS IN STUDENT LOANS AND MANY SCHOLARSHIPS PROGRAMS.
Oh for sure. I moved out of Dubai and went to USA couple of decades back. I would NEVER go back to Dubai. It's a flashy artificial world where there is absolutely nothing to do; no geographical proximity to anything worth driving to. Pathetic work culture and work environment; no value or respect of personal and family life. Ridiculously expensive. The ONLY POSITIVE is close distance to family back home.
Moved to Canada after living 10 years in UAE 🙋♂️
and how has been the experience so far? what are the pros and cons of living in canada vs dubai?
What about for higher education and other thing the house. Buying a good reasonable house you are talking about 2 to 3 million dollars
Uae is far behind from usa.
I live in us last ten years and i recently visited uae two months ago and i experienced in uae u have to pay everything for ur necessities of life like schooling,health and even golden visa is not permanent and u have to pay every certain time to renewal.
If the offer from Dubai was considerably good then one should shift because moving is big deal especially to a work culture which is a bit strict considering west and Australia is more relaxed. Secondly the move should be paying off in terms of one leaving permanent jobs to jobs which have a one month notice period even being permanent. Lastly salaries in uae are no longer at the same level what they were before. After covid they have squeezed packages and considering the tax free portion is usually the incentive to move alongside the school fees they offer. Move to UAE if both husband and wife packages are good. I consider 35K aed plus school fees a good package to move for. Again it isn’t permanent there and tomorrow say they get affected by virus or iran war etc they will just ask you to leave. So decide based on circumstances
They r happy bcz they got PR of canada and usa so now they can sav here and whenever they want to move they can and future of their kids r secure .they can send their kids f higher studies any where but in dubai ,after matric what abt kids higher studies,what abt PR
Modern aunty Dubai has mosque after every five minutes where as in Canada u have mosque after every 5hrs
This does not mean people shoujd not move. What about children of parents who are in transferable jobs. So it depends on parents how they expose their children and ask them to adjust
What language are they speaking?
Urdu
As of now the conversation itself is meaning less to compare the US and Canada with UAE where as UAE is only a place of luxury life and investment from the people from different countries who make money by Mal practices and avoid taxes and send it through hawala and get immunity in UAE enjoy luxurious life while US and Canada and other European countries have their intellectual properties that are necessary to survive and feel secure with our family, society with basic amenities and continuous improvement
I really like your topic of podcast.
I believe batool her self give more points to Dubai. Though she won't go back.
Being a Canadian and 20 years of gulf experience i believe gulf is more secure for kids and moreover they can be intact to religion as well. Where as if your kids lose life security and religion then you lose everything..there is no return.
There are so many such examples in north America
Yea live in camps u will know
@@KamranKhan-l5x the point is not living in camps. Besides, the life of the poor is worse everywhere.
@@muhammadyousaf786 but the point is where to live ?? How can I find good job with no degree🥹
@@muhammadyousaf786 but how to find nice apartment nice job with no degree???
@@muhammadyousaf786 I'm security tired of this shit life living in dirty camps with dirty slave pple no best salary don't know where can I find job with no fucking degree
here in dubai work is become life. not work part of life
Majority of the people living in canada are living pay cheq to pay cheq,no saving..due to extreme cold temperatures, kids r unable to play outside. Mortgages and living costs are too much. Lgbt and related things in curricullum is another chalenge. Too much screen time is another big issue.atleast in duabi or in gulf, kids have silamic culture.
Regarding finances, unless and unless you do some business, it will take you somewhere in life but if you keep doing jobs for long, life would be on oay cheq to pay check. You earn and give money to state.
Please update after 20 years
I mean what about the negative influences in US/Can