Illegal LEGO Techniques

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  • Опубликовано: 13 фев 2022
  • People called my builds illegal... I took it personally and made this video!
    And for the record, I should know a thing or two about the subject since I was a former designer and some point in my life.
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  • @TiagoCatarino
    @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +4199

    SUBSCRIBING is legal
    Buy LEGO to support the channel ❯ bit.ly/48N1nd5

    • @rafibarker5064
      @rafibarker5064 2 года назад +20

      Keep up the amazing quality videos. 👏👌👍😊

    • @VeryTastySoup87
      @VeryTastySoup87 2 года назад +9

      I did!

    • @joeleboeuf
      @joeleboeuf 2 года назад +15

      Now THAT is an absolutely educational video on what not to do with Lego bricks.

    • @MiniTank08
      @MiniTank08 2 года назад +9

      last time i checked it wasnt

    • @williambelleza108
      @williambelleza108 2 года назад +6

      Really enjoyed that one, including your clear anger about the illegal thing 😁

  • @CountDoucheula
    @CountDoucheula 2 года назад +4177

    I like how they're so precise on their measurements and dimensions, all the time not realising the Legos are going straight in my mouth.

    • @Elias-ry7ri
      @Elias-ry7ri 2 года назад +123

      NOM

    • @BeHappyTo
      @BeHappyTo Год назад +83

      that lego piece you ate was under grandmas feet

    • @juno_dawn
      @juno_dawn Год назад +130

      @@BeHappyTo extra flavour

    • @happysheepslimes9090
      @happysheepslimes9090 Год назад +40

      @@juno_dawn MMMM, LOVE CURSED COMMENTS

    • @long.bird.
      @long.bird. Год назад +18

      @@juno_dawn feet crust seasoning

  • @thesmoker4027
    @thesmoker4027 2 года назад +5887

    You know you made a terrible mistake when the lego engineer tells you “this is personal”

    • @melvinhotdogman6926
      @melvinhotdogman6926 2 года назад +41

      When he said that I felt sad :(

    • @ev6558
      @ev6558 2 года назад +21

      This man Legos like a boss.

    • @__-ic7si
      @__-ic7si 2 года назад +50

      When any engineer tells you "this is personal" you've screwed up.

    • @Koichi-
      @Koichi- 2 года назад +10

      Imagine it’s your first day at the job.

    • @buggr
      @buggr 2 года назад +14

      @@__-ic7si Either you have done something wrong, or if you are not the subject of things becoming personal, you are being warned that a workshop is about to explode a little bit while they sort out what object has them upset.
      Source: My father in law is an engineer.

  • @Taikamuna
    @Taikamuna 2 года назад +511

    "So, how did you end up in jail?"
    Me: Illegal Lego builds

    • @Voided-YT
      @Voided-YT Год назад +3

      Oh hello.

    • @bigpapi5343
      @bigpapi5343 Год назад +8

      *Scoots away*

    • @MyPhobo
      @MyPhobo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@bigpapi5343lol

    • @onebadgloop4514
      @onebadgloop4514 2 месяца назад

      hey it the guy from trackmania

    • @jefflukaszyk5970
      @jefflukaszyk5970 Месяц назад

      It would be hilarious in-joke if they put that in some lego movie...

  • @thomasjeppesen3055
    @thomasjeppesen3055 Год назад +291

    You just answered two huge questions from my childhood (why they redesigned the clip piece and 1x1 cone piece) and I am thankful for the closure it provided me.

    • @zestyfg
      @zestyfg 8 месяцев назад +8

      I was one of the kids who pushed in that old cone as hard as I could. It felt satisfying.

    • @jenelle5331
      @jenelle5331 Месяц назад

      I don't like the new clips. They break too easily.

  • @Yourboss3382
    @Yourboss3382 2 года назад +1963

    I'm glad you are explaining the reasons behind the rules because some people will just give a list of ways no to build and thats a little annoying

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +135

      I try!

    • @orion7741
      @orion7741 2 года назад +9

      but there are no rules when it comes to LEGO. anybody that says there are rules is a communist.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 2 года назад +26

      @@orion7741 why communist?

    • @NuclearRaven13
      @NuclearRaven13 2 года назад +56

      @@NoNameAtAll2
      Because by saying "communist" he too can politicalize fu*cking legos.

    • @Flamebeard0815
      @Flamebeard0815 2 года назад +15

      @@orion7741 So... you're an anti-LEGO-communist LEGO-anarchist? That's new.

  • @SHYTIMEismyTIME
    @SHYTIMEismyTIME 2 года назад +6243

    Now that is the proper dictionary definition needed to be said about what an "Illegal" technique is. Thanks for the lesson!

    • @hoarder66
      @hoarder66 2 года назад +18

      Agreed

    • @cyanimation1605
      @cyanimation1605 2 года назад +45

      yes yes. Things that stress me out are illegal.
      mention a former US president? Go to jail. tell me to work on my taxes? right to jail. remind me Velika's a great being? jail.

    • @taqresu5865
      @taqresu5865 2 года назад +20

      @@cyanimation1605 lol as a Bionicle fan, that last one really cracked me up lol

    • @NorthGaReptile
      @NorthGaReptile 2 года назад +27

      Agreed. I've seen quite a few comments about connections being illegal on other posts and I'm always like "Whaaa..?"
      I was starting to think that there was some kind of Lego community that made certain types of connections invalid, but this video cleared that up.
      A connection that doesn't stress a brick = legal
      A connection that stresses a brick = illegal

    • @guntersiegfried7460
      @guntersiegfried7460 2 года назад +8

      @@NorthGaReptile but doesnt the pressed connection in itself stress the parts - of course they do! So this is a highly lawyery acedemic discussion that in itself destroyes and stresses our connection as humans.
      Yesterday a had some lego bricks from 1940/50s without cross support - we played and used cross plattform connections all the time - "press it ,until it holds" wood to plastic/metal whatever, i couldnt make out one broken brick! So what they hell - i am not building actual houses/hospitals out of lego bricks.

  • @jacoboreilly2496
    @jacoboreilly2496 Год назад +531

    I thought "illegal Lego techniques" was just a meme for any builds that were unusual, didn't know it was an actual thing!

    • @stemen1162
      @stemen1162 9 месяцев назад +27

      There's not actual laws against it brother

    • @jay_344
      @jay_344 8 месяцев назад +3

      i think this is more of definition games. i’d think illegal building means any block combination that isn’t in the meta, which itself would be very fluid and hard to define

    • @cjperkinsboy1293
      @cjperkinsboy1293 8 месяцев назад +44

      @@jay_344nah it means any technique that can put strain on the pieces

    • @tacokoneko
      @tacokoneko 8 месяцев назад +13

      technically it means the QA guidelines sets go through before LEGO ships them, but sometimes there have been illegal techniques in official sets that were accidental

    • @TheLumberjack1987
      @TheLumberjack1987 8 месяцев назад +34

      in Denmark you go straight to jail if they find any of those in the annual lego inspection

  • @SkinnerNoah
    @SkinnerNoah Год назад +31

    For me, illegal techniques are usually a last resort when I can't figure out how to build something normally.
    I don't have a massive collection so I can't be too reckless with my bricks

  • @jesustyronechrist2330
    @jesustyronechrist2330 2 года назад +2540

    There's a difference between a build being "illegal" and a build being "cursed"

    • @chrislarson9504
      @chrislarson9504 2 года назад +18

      illegal is the proper term. but i guess cursed is the genZ word for it that can work

    • @theseveredheadofjohnthebap7322
      @theseveredheadofjohnthebap7322 2 года назад

      I have a lego spaceship I built that is so illegal it's actually cursed. I used lego, lego tech, and MegaConstrux. No one can touch it because there's a very specific way of handling it, otherwise it will start to fall apart.

    • @aidancb910
      @aidancb910 2 года назад +308

      @@chrislarson9504 2 different things bruh. That wheel thing he made is cursed but not illegal. Cursed is like bruh what the hell have u done with that lego. Illegal is a stress thing.

    • @visassess8607
      @visassess8607 2 года назад +18

      @@aidancb910 Cursed doesn't fit in the context of any of these Lego builds though

    • @hexagon8899
      @hexagon8899 2 года назад +140

      @@visassess8607 “cursed” has kinda gotten a new meaning a few years ago, and it basically just now means “extremely fucking weird”

  • @Demonskunk
    @Demonskunk 2 года назад +1608

    It's really interesting to learn that the Lego designers are actually modifying pieces to be more versatile and durable.

    • @Einheit101
      @Einheit101 Год назад +21

      Then why is the LEGO Logo still outside, increasing the height by 0,1mm and why are the holes of these technic bricks still 0,05mm misaligned and why do technic bricks not have inside groves so you can put half pins inside them? 🥲

    • @MakenaForest
      @MakenaForest Год назад +12

      @@Einheit101 the lego logo is there to identify it as a lego brand brick

    • @Einheit101
      @Einheit101 Год назад +28

      @@MakenaForest they could sink it in instead

    • @MrHanBrolo
      @MrHanBrolo Год назад +6

      @@Einheit101 that would weaken the stud

    • @Kodaiva
      @Kodaiva Год назад +2

      @@Einheit101 because these are all intended parts of the pieces?

  • @pulsarbeam3857
    @pulsarbeam3857 Год назад +20

    The conflicts with technique brick seems like more of a design oversight when the molds were introduced

    • @GarryDumblowski
      @GarryDumblowski 7 месяцев назад +7

      The technic bricks have holes that are slightly higher than the SNOT bricks because if the holes were the same height with the thickness they have, they wouldn't be able to fit on top of a standard Lego brick with the logo on the studs. Either way, there's some incompatibility between technic and standard bricks, and Lego simply chose the one less likely to cause problems.

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 4 месяца назад +1

      @@GarryDumblowski Then maybe the snot bricks should be the one redesigned. :P

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 3 месяца назад +2

    Crazy thing is the official LEGO instructions often use damaging connections, as I can attest by the numerous broken bricks in my tubs.

  • @AstonishingStudios
    @AstonishingStudios 2 года назад +3536

    This thumbnail looked so clickbait, but realizing you uploaded it, I knew I was going to learn something new and surprising by watching it.

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +133

      Clickbait RUclips is a thing of the past!

    • @Lokear
      @Lokear 2 года назад +75

      @@TiagoCatarino If only...

    • @ethandominic-13
      @ethandominic-13 2 года назад +27

      @@TiagoCatarino Definitely... I have a dream...

    • @KrotumAlexanderThe500th
      @KrotumAlexanderThe500th 2 года назад +15

      @@TiagoCatarino I wish

    • @KuroKitten
      @KuroKitten 2 года назад +16

      The thumbnail *was* clickbait, but clickbait isn't inherently good or bad. If the thumbnail gets you to click, and the content of the video is worthwhile, then the clickbait was worthwhile =)

  • @z-beeblebrox
    @z-beeblebrox 2 года назад +696

    Wow I legitimately thought "that's illegal" comments about weird Lego techniques were jokes I had no idea there was even an official concept of illegality, let alone that people were actually being both sincere and mostly wrong

    • @AlexthePoki
      @AlexthePoki 2 года назад +14

      I thought exactly the same lol

    • @entombedlamb5356
      @entombedlamb5356 2 года назад +3

      I am not the resident expert on Lego builds, but your RUclips comment is definitely 'Illegal'. Its spelled 'their', I fixed it for you...

    • @z-beeblebrox
      @z-beeblebrox 2 года назад +45

      @@entombedlamb5356 Uh no, "there" is correct. "Their" is possessive. "Their illegal Legos are there." not the other way around.

    • @thesilverbeluga8539
      @thesilverbeluga8539 2 года назад +30

      @@z-beeblebrox He also, ironically, used the wrong "it's"

    • @z-beeblebrox
      @z-beeblebrox 2 года назад +1

      @@thesilverbeluga8539 That's true but I'll give it a pass since personally I'd like to see the apostrophe phased out of "it's". I think it's an unnecessary distinction.

  • @peteranon8455
    @peteranon8455 2 года назад +8

    When I was a kid, I was very offended when my cousin spray painted a Lego project. Somehow I'm glad that other people take this stuff personally.

  • @greatbrandini3967
    @greatbrandini3967 Год назад +9

    As a kid, I used to love building Lego Star Wars sets 90's-00's. I recently bought the collector's Star Destroyer and was baffled when I was instructed to put the 2X1 flat piece inside the little clips, as I had always thought that you weren't supposed to do that. Glad I wasn't going crazy lol

  • @laeamminlakana-matt5692
    @laeamminlakana-matt5692 2 года назад +524

    "Is this legal?"
    Lego engineers modifying bricks, summoning their best Darth Sidious voice: "I will make it legal"

    • @joet3935
      @joet3935 2 года назад +30

      Some consider my technique.... UnNatural.

    • @cookiecreeperplayz
      @cookiecreeperplayz 2 года назад +26

      The CAD software of lego is a pathway to many pieces some may consider legal.

    • @pef_v6107
      @pef_v6107 2 года назад +14

      The dark side of the LEGO leads to many building techniques some consider to be... unnatural.

    • @thesharklord
      @thesharklord 2 года назад +12

      "Where can I learn these building techniques?" "Not from a Lego engineer..."

    • @laeamminlakana-matt5692
      @laeamminlakana-matt5692 2 года назад +3

      @@thesharklord Jump cut to a 3 year old mashing bricks together, but cut specifically into points where they do something illegal that works

  • @ShinigamiScouse7
    @ShinigamiScouse7 2 года назад +191

    She: " I love bad boys."
    Him: "I'm an illegal Lego builder."

  • @coasterblocks3420
    @coasterblocks3420 5 месяцев назад +7

    Seems like a simple minor redesign of some elements would eliminate some of illegality. For example, making the LEGO logo on studs an “innie” instead of an “outie”, or adjusting the top of the tube of a brick to allow a Technic pin to expand.

  • @BlackringIII
    @BlackringIII Год назад +4

    The wonders we could achieve if the Lego logo was recessed

  • @cth4904
    @cth4904 2 года назад +478

    I was always so confused about illegal building techniques, now it makes sense illegal techniques stresses out the bricks or can damage them

    • @raphaelnej8387
      @raphaelnej8387 2 года назад +9

      same
      when i was kid i didn’t understand how people decided the laws
      but when i grew up i had this enlightenment:
      law follows morality

    • @cth4904
      @cth4904 2 года назад

      @@raphaelnej8387 I really like they way up put that, also very true!

    • @UTU49
      @UTU49 2 года назад +3

      I'm really trying to remember how often my brother and I used "illegal techniques" as kids.
      I'm pretty sure we used them a moderate amount -- perhaps somewhat above average. I definitely remember being aware of using the bricks in ways that they were not intended. I definitely remember using bricks in ways that could damage them. If it was POSSIBLE, we would do it. We definitely weren't thinking much about whether a technique was "advisable" or not, in any sense. We were just exercising our creativity.

    • @cth4904
      @cth4904 2 года назад +3

      @@UTU49 lego is such a great toy for flexing your creative muscle loved building whatever came to mind building techniques be damned

    • @NZBallBag
      @NZBallBag 2 года назад

      Thanh goodness. And here I was quickly pulling my lego apart thinking I was going to prison..

  • @Mackinstyle
    @Mackinstyle 2 года назад +2051

    I think it's important to further clarify that "illegal" is really just "contraindicated in Lego's official manual of how to design sets." Lego couldn't care one bit if people do any of this stuff. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not taboo or special. It's just not good practices for creating sensible, robust, elegant designs.

    • @twakka86
      @twakka86 2 года назад +203

      This is the comment I was looking for here!! I always get confused when people say illegal builds i always get a picture of police banging down doors at 5 a.m arresting people for misuse of lego🙄 🤣

    • @johnadler6987
      @johnadler6987 2 года назад +51

      @@twakka86 Someone should do a skit of this 🤣

    • @RaulDiaz-mp8ms
      @RaulDiaz-mp8ms 2 года назад +46

      Heck if anything they'd encourage it if it meant the customer buys more legos to replace the broken ones.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 2 года назад +63

      @@twakka86 It's only an issue because "illegal" can mean two different things in English. Being against the law, ie you can be arrested for it. And just being against competition rules or something. Other languages use different words for these concepts so it's not as much of an issue. English has the same problem with "free". "Free software" doesn't mean what most people think it means, because it doesn't mean "free" as in "no charge".

    • @twakka86
      @twakka86 2 года назад +3

      @@StormsparkPegasus err thanks for explaining!?! Kinda already knew the score pal but thanks anyway

  • @KingBobXVI
    @KingBobXVI Год назад +6

    Iirc, the newer round pieces have a lip inside them to allow technic pins to expand, so that one is now (sometimes) legal, depending on whether it's the new piece.

  • @maggiejetson7904
    @maggiejetson7904 2 года назад +10

    As an engineer the last time I said "I'll never do anything that is invalid", the QA always find my mistakes.

  • @puzzLEGO
    @puzzLEGO 2 года назад +248

    now these are illegal techniques, I'd thought I had seen it all but there was so many things I learnt today

    • @viperlord487
      @viperlord487 2 года назад

      Hello Puzzlego! I'm subbed to you!

  • @Chubbybots
    @Chubbybots 2 года назад +783

    I am guilty as charged for using so many illegal techniques 😂 that aside, great insight into these techniques coming from your experience as a Lego designer

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +171

      Somebody arrest this man!!! :P

    • @animefreakjex
      @animefreakjex 2 года назад +41

      I did many illegal techniques as a kid, now I atleast know why it didn't fit back then 😂

    • @JoeKyser
      @JoeKyser 2 года назад +18

      Ah nothing a little glue wont fix lol

    • @rebeccachoice
      @rebeccachoice 2 года назад +16

      @@JoeKyser Eeek! Kragl!

    • @JoeKyser
      @JoeKyser 2 года назад +2

      @@rebeccachoice 😀

  • @Kriviach
    @Kriviach Год назад +17

    I had no idea that the technic bricks and bricks with studs on the sides had slightly different heights on their holes and studs respectively, kinda feels like an oversight on legos part ngl, I alos never noticed how flat plates and studded plates are different in thickness, great video man! also that wheel that u showed off towards the end looks cool af

  • @chairya2
    @chairya2 2 года назад +1

    This is why i used to hate getting technique sets when i asked for lego’s for my birthday. It always seemed as if the bricks would fit in a certain way with regular lego’s, but then they ended up not fitting.

  • @Zaximillian
    @Zaximillian 2 года назад +167

    In our LUG, we say "Technic and System bricks are not friends."
    Not enemies, but not friends.

  • @refundreplay
    @refundreplay 2 года назад +37

    I have never, in all my casual years of playing with Legos, heard "illegal" used. I have, though, wondered about those very subtle gaps.
    Learned a lot of un-useful information, but I'm happy to have learned it all the same.

    • @Zeroshiki
      @Zeroshiki 2 года назад +4

      Same here. As soon as I saw the title, I was like, _"Who tf is out here arresting people for putting Legos together wrong ?"_ Seems like a really bad term for this lol. 💀

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof Год назад +2

      That's because the term is inapplicable. Until Lego starts their own nation, they have no power to declare anything illegal.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@LlortnerofIllegal in the sense that a chess move is illegal.

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof 8 месяцев назад

      @@davidwuhrer6704 Nope, still doesn't work. An illegal chess move is one that is against the rules. Rules that the players agree to uphold. Lego has no such rules.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 8 месяцев назад

      @@Llortnerof What nation does chess have that gives it the power to declare something illegal?

  • @sandervdbrink84
    @sandervdbrink84 8 месяцев назад +2

    The terms "legal" and "illegal" are so weird for something you can always legally do with your own Lego sets.

    • @SilverEye91
      @SilverEye91 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's pretty obvious what it means to anyone with a brain though.

  • @ehhhsteve8582
    @ehhhsteve8582 2 года назад +122

    “Most of the time” lol.
    Would love to hear a story (if one exists) of an illegal building technique that was caught by LEGO quality control, causing you to redesign in some way.

  • @LucasBuilds
    @LucasBuilds 2 года назад +230

    My favourite obscure legal connection is a technic pin to the underside of a 1x1 brick with studs on 4 sides. The open studs actually give the pin room to properly expand and move freely, so while it may not be intentional it's not actually stressing anything and is, as such, fully legal! It was even used in an old M-Tron set once.

    • @mikosoft
      @mikosoft 2 года назад +17

      I'm pretty sure you're talking about Particle ionizer as I have that set at home and if I recall correctly the connection you mentioned was used for the "rotor" part

    • @RadziolM
      @RadziolM 2 года назад +7

      I have it used in 75491 (Indominus set) as a base for the trees.

    • @Zaximillian
      @Zaximillian 2 года назад +1

      One more use for the Travis brick!

    • @intrepidmixedmedia7939
      @intrepidmixedmedia7939 2 года назад

      It was also used within the past year in another set, I think it got a mention on New Elementary

    • @jettlucashayes8508
      @jettlucashayes8508 2 года назад +6

      @Jesse Mathis exo force: sweats nervously

  • @Ryaify69
    @Ryaify69 Год назад

    He came out like a boss and didn't let people lie about him

  • @nunyobusiness835
    @nunyobusiness835 2 года назад +4

    Ive been using lego bricks how I see fit since I first owned them in the late 70s. Im not gonna stop making things just becuase its illegal.

  • @OliverCGoetz
    @OliverCGoetz 2 года назад +297

    Unfortunately, these days even being an active LEGO designer and being embedded in the design and quality processes at the mothership doesn't seem to be a guarantee that no illegal building techniques make their way into official sets.
    Have you heard about the problem with 76205 Gargantos Showdown? If not, check out the article "Possible design flaw found in 2022 Super Heroes set" over on Brickset.

    • @zippolighter4903
      @zippolighter4903 2 года назад +4

      Was it the Wolverine one?

    • @OliverCGoetz
      @OliverCGoetz 2 года назад +31

      @@zippolighter4903 No, the one with Doctor Strange and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    • @frankiesomeone
      @frankiesomeone 2 года назад +19

      Also the chinese set with the candle illegally clipped to the 1x1 tile with clip

    • @derekchapman2027
      @derekchapman2027 2 года назад +35

      Yeah that set screams that no one actually physically built the set and they just relied on a computer program

    • @SpykersB
      @SpykersB 2 года назад +8

      Glad u said that Oliver, because I swear I’ve built and wondered if that was what the instructions said, so just knowing ‘it’ happens makes it less questionable when it does occur. 🍻

  • @Excellsion
    @Excellsion 2 года назад +134

    I feel like some of these would take a REALLY LONG TIME to cause damage, though, obviously the official definition doesn't care about how long it would take.

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +124

      Exactly. The definition is based upon stuff that happens in the real world like kids building a set and leaving it built for years.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 года назад +29

      @@TiagoCatarino little siblings: are you sure about that?

    • @janheikel7751
      @janheikel7751 2 года назад +6

      @@TiagoCatarino I'm pretty sure it's only adult builders who ever leave their lego sets built for more than a few days.

    • @mystic-malevolence
      @mystic-malevolence 2 года назад +13

      @@janheikel7751 idk where you get that assumption, I always tried to keep my sets in one piece as a kid

    • @Mboy245
      @Mboy245 2 года назад +8

      @@janheikel7751 Nope my big brother freehand built (as in it wasn't an actual set) a cathedral and left it built and forbade me fro doing anything with it or too it, much less touch it

  • @ardmichielsen2977
    @ardmichielsen2977 2 года назад +10

    I did a lot of plate connections (03:50) in the '80's with my Lego's. If you wanted to make a slum or a shed, that plate connection was the way to go and looked the most natural. Since then, Lego had lot of time improving them to release the stress in the plates that way. If they can improve the cones (03:17) to make former "illegal techniques" legal, they can do the same with the plates.

    • @Amy.Potter_Gryffindor_
      @Amy.Potter_Gryffindor_ Год назад +1

      Smart

    • @affegpus4195
      @affegpus4195 Год назад +2

      Decreasing plate thickness would however break everything else

    • @ardmichielsen2977
      @ardmichielsen2977 Год назад +1

      @@affegpus4195 Yes, but calling a plate connection like I did for sheds or slums illegal is way to dramatic. It's not illegal to put just one plate and after a few knobs another one.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@ardmichielsen2977If you are a Lego engineer, you are not allowed to do that.
      As an end customer you can do with it whatever you want, of course (subject to the criminal code), but illegal builds will void the warranty.

    • @ardmichielsen2977
      @ardmichielsen2977 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@davidwuhrer6704But Lego had/has had enough time to make this "illegal" construction possible by adapting the plates. I made many "slums" this way in the '80s, so Lego has been dormant for over 40 years adjusting the plates to make it work.

  • @nzoomed
    @nzoomed 2 года назад +2

    Interesting video, something I've been meaning to ask is if Lego has changed their plastic on newer bricks. They seem softer and easier to remove, but in some cases they can come off alot easier as a result.

  • @jjkthebest
    @jjkthebest 2 года назад +29

    For some of these it seems like they really could've designed them in a way that doesn't make those connections illegal.

    • @coasterblocks3420
      @coasterblocks3420 5 месяцев назад +7

      Some could still be redesigned with no impact such as changing from a raised logo to a sunken LEGO.
      Others you have to really scratch your head - did LEGO really think people wouldn’t ever mix system with Technic?

  • @gmsniperx3623
    @gmsniperx3623 2 года назад +290

    Before you say something people, think about it. The man was a LEGO designer. He obviously knows more than we do.

    • @WanganTunedKeiCar
      @WanganTunedKeiCar 2 года назад +18

      _Nah man, I had a box with a bunch of Legos from Goodwill. Them techniques are illegal_

    • @gmsniperx3623
      @gmsniperx3623 2 года назад +2

      @@WanganTunedKeiCar What?

    • @Lokear
      @Lokear 2 года назад +6

      @@gmsniperx3623 Sarcasm.

    • @gmsniperx3623
      @gmsniperx3623 2 года назад +1

      @@Lokear Ohh, ok.

    • @gmsniperx3623
      @gmsniperx3623 2 года назад +5

      @@princessofthecape2078 I am neither a LEGO nerd nor a designer, so I don't really care about whether something is legal or illegal.

  • @GameCyborgCh
    @GameCyborgCh 6 месяцев назад +1

    a question i have is why are the bricks not designed to allow these illegal connections? it's seems like it would only be a tiny change that doesn't affect anything else

  • @hackcubit9663
    @hackcubit9663 2 года назад +1

    So that's why some of the more complicated builds seemed to use weird choices of bits!

  • @randallisaeff1876
    @randallisaeff1876 2 года назад +41

    I can't wait to defend the first case where my client is facing charges for "illegal Lego building techniques."

    • @KewAnneOn
      @KewAnneOn 2 года назад +1

      Excellent 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. You know Lego builders must have a pole up their arse if they're saying the wrong brick being used is illegal 😂. Pretty sure no laws are being broken in this video.

    • @archerestarcher
      @archerestarcher 2 года назад +7

      @@KewAnneOn it's just the terminology the community uses, they don't actually mean or believe that it's against the law

    • @AnglosArentHuman
      @AnglosArentHuman 2 года назад

      @@KewAnneOn Least spastic Angloid boomer:

  • @wolff000
    @wolff000 2 года назад +240

    I did all kinds of stuff with my Legos that warped and damaged them. As far as I was concerned this is what they were meant for, playing and being creative. Finding new ways to use the bricks was a big part of the fun.

    • @DrTofu83
      @DrTofu83 2 года назад +49

      That's exactly the point. No one will ever really sic the "Lego police" on you if you warp, bend, crush, paint, glue or eat your LEGOs.
      LEGOs are meant to be creative.
      Illegal is just shorthand for "You tried something fancy, and you broke the brick. Your fault mate, next time you'll be luckier"
      Still, many "illegal" tecnicques stress the bricks, but do no lasting damage on them. Good for you then ^_^

    • @WEENUS157
      @WEENUS157 2 года назад

      @@DrTofu83 yeah,why do you think lego has tryed new things like paper and legos.

    • @DrTofu83
      @DrTofu83 2 года назад +21

      @@WEENUS157 Lego is creativity, we all know that. Every single kid (and sometimes not kids) in his past has is fair share of mishandled, manhandled, broken LEGO pieces.
      Sadly, today we live in a society where if someone breaks a LEGO piece he goes on Facebook complaining about "shoddy quaility"

    • @javaguru7141
      @javaguru7141 2 года назад +7

      I agree in principle but there is one genuine reason to educate and encourage people not to use illegal designs: there is a large used market for lego bricks, and they increase the risk of damaged bricks unintentionally ending up on the market.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 2 года назад +4

      @@DrTofu83 "Sadly, today we live in a society where if someone breaks a LEGO piece he goes on Facebook complaining about "shoddy quaility""
      *[CITATION NEEDED]*

  • @mylittledarkworldjohn4289
    @mylittledarkworldjohn4289 Год назад +2

    The beginning is so wonderful, thats like telling beethoven to listen to moonlight sonata

  • @stevekulwicki2316
    @stevekulwicki2316 Год назад +3

    I feel like this is an essential video to watch, it useful knowing what can damage my Lego

  • @devikwolf
    @devikwolf 2 года назад +60

    This is a super cool explanation. For instance I never knew why the 1x1 clip was redesigned with arms that - at first glance - made it look less sturdy. Lego Engineers and set designers are really amazing at what they do!

  • @PlainDiscord
    @PlainDiscord 2 года назад +35

    For a long long time I have wanted ot know what Legos actually considers illegal. With your background as a Lego employee, this goes above and beyond explaining why we shouldn't do illegal connections and what is an illegal connection.

  • @adamjankoleno1133
    @adamjankoleno1133 Год назад +1

    Fun fact: The cover of LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 features an illegal building technique. The Godric Gryffindor's sword uses a clip holding a tile and when you look closer, it's definitely the old one (btw, the new one didn't even exist back then).

  • @sallywyatt2918
    @sallywyatt2918 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow the fact there is such a thing as illegal associated with a toy says it all

  • @Tapanitseini
    @Tapanitseini 2 года назад +17

    This video will be used in a court if the LEGO cops decide to arrest Tiago.

  • @redhawkneofeatherman261
    @redhawkneofeatherman261 2 года назад +47

    If you think your lego techniques are illegal, remember:
    I have willingly cut peices to size when I have lacked the right peice and colour, quite a few times.

    • @thedemolitionmuniciple
      @thedemolitionmuniciple 6 месяцев назад +3

      Currently debating doing so with old blue 16x32 baseplates to have my ocean water flush with the wall. Still haven't bit the bullet though.

    • @josiahjack455
      @josiahjack455 6 месяцев назад +8

      That's just messed up

    • @forbiddenchannel4901
      @forbiddenchannel4901 4 месяца назад +3

      you should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair 4 месяца назад

      Also: other companies have no problem in inventing new pieces that fit the purposes of the "illegal" building techniques, it's only LEGO that are too stupid to come up with good bricks :D

  • @philswaim392
    @philswaim392 2 года назад +1

    You know people tale legos too seriously when they say a building technique is illegal

  • @seb12game9
    @seb12game9 Год назад +1

    catarino: "i don't make illegal builds, and as proof i'll make a ton of illegal builds!"

  • @pi172
    @pi172 2 года назад +50

    You didnt answer the real question though: How many former Lego designers spend their rest of their lifes rotting in danish prison cells for these illegal building techniques?

  • @Memer9456
    @Memer9456 2 года назад +14

    imagine telling a former lego employee that their builds are illegal

    • @GamingPalOllieMK
      @GamingPalOllieMK Год назад

      Even if they are tho, what normal human being would give a shit
      this video is so frustrating to me because it showed me a world I wasn't aware of, I dunno why youtube recommended it, I have no interest in bloody legos but to see so much elitism surrounding friggin legos only confirms to me that we live in a clown world and this shit needs to end on all fronts.
      people need to shut the fuck up and stop being elitist and controlling over every aspect of entertainment

  • @matthewwriter9539
    @matthewwriter9539 2 года назад +3

    My first thought when I heard about illegal builds...
    "Dude! These are my Legos. The whole point is to be creative. How can anything I do with them be illegal."
    Lego set designer: "Some things will wear out or damage your legos."
    Me: "Alright. Yeah. I'll go with that."
    ...though I still think "illegal" might be a little strong.

  • @tylerddh
    @tylerddh 2 года назад

    Holy moly, Legos are way more involved than i ever imagined

  • @Flyingbrickyard
    @Flyingbrickyard 2 года назад +12

    I remember back when a vertical plate between studs was in some official build instructions. Though that would've been close to 40 years ago at this point.

  • @deadlineuniverse3189
    @deadlineuniverse3189 2 года назад +13

    My definition of illegal building techniques before this video: Everything that doesn’t look like Lego would voluntarily put into a build instruction.
    My definition after: Everything that can batter the brick.

  • @collinmcadams5983
    @collinmcadams5983 Год назад

    That last gear-like one was actually REALLY cool

  • @bobgade6733
    @bobgade6733 2 года назад +1

    So wait... You mean my child I'm his room playing with Legos is likely commiting numerous crimes?

  • @albertosara416
    @albertosara416 2 года назад +27

    I always thought illegal lego techniques were just a meme. I was wrong

    • @Johan_S847
      @Johan_S847 2 года назад +4

      Yeah me too, I was just kidding he was using illegal technics💀

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith 2 года назад +3

      I always thought it was just aesthetic stuff LEGO designers couldn't use or what looked like the pieces didn't line up in instructions. Turns out I was also wrong.

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +17

      It is a very serious business at LEGO!

    • @DrTofu83
      @DrTofu83 2 года назад

      @@TiagoCatarino Not just LEGO. You can do a lot of kitbashing with any given kit, even sanding, gluing or putting undue stress on the used parts. If it works, works. If it doesn't, you just failed, no big deal :P

  • @flaminghive
    @flaminghive 2 года назад +7

    Very nice to see a thorough breakdown of *why* certain techniques are illegal.

  • @Aio-Project
    @Aio-Project Год назад

    brick bending on the other hand stresses the hell out of his bricks

  • @solame4983
    @solame4983 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for teaching me these illegal techniques that you use in your builds!

  • @BrickBending
    @BrickBending 2 года назад +120

    That was a great video!

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +50

      Oh no

    • @yjonesy
      @yjonesy 2 года назад +5

      @@TiagoCatarino "Oh no" 🤣🤣

    • @legospacememe8468
      @legospacememe8468 2 года назад +6

      @@TiagoCatarino what have you done. You promised to protect the brick not destroy them

    • @Ilikerawfish
      @Ilikerawfish 2 года назад +3

      Some men just want to watch the world burn...

    • @SpeedIdran
      @SpeedIdran 2 года назад +2

      Man, this is funny

  • @dianastasny9338
    @dianastasny9338 2 года назад +12

    Would love to see some of this long term damage. I'm personally infamous for stressing bricks in my designs and despite having been assembled for years under tension they always spring back.

  • @Xbob42
    @Xbob42 2 года назад

    If I can make it this long under nonstop horrific stress, then my Lego bricks can shut up and do the same.

  • @dumpstercat2229
    @dumpstercat2229 2 года назад +1

    I was surprised by how interesting this video is

  • @Eli_the_fiend
    @Eli_the_fiend 2 года назад +5

    I was overjoyed when I learned that Lego redesigned those one by one clips because when I was a kid I remember the old designs broke a little too easily.

  • @ChrisByram
    @ChrisByram 2 года назад +52

    Such a clear definition and great examples!! Honestly didn't realize what was bad about using illegal connections. Very cool to see! Thank you!

  • @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
    @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 Год назад +1

    I guess the FEDs are outside wiretapping my house due to mixing brands .

  • @theabsurdfan
    @theabsurdfan Год назад

    The ship in a bottle set is one of my favorites and I want it, its really cool you helped design it!

  • @Avram42
    @Avram42 2 года назад +141

    It appears to me that many of these "illegal" connections were just a lack of foresight on the original designs as far as cross-compatibility goes. In some cases they were directly addressed with a re-design and it seems that some of them are simply just too late to fix (e.g. technic vs. normal alignments & lego logo protrusion). Can you honestly say that with a blank design slate that all of these incompatibilities are necessary?

    • @bermchasin
      @bermchasin 2 года назад +11

      completely NOT necessary. They done f'd up and are still charging an arm and leg for bobo products. GARBAGE.

    • @potatow088
      @potatow088 2 года назад +27

      @@bermchasin what the f

    • @bergauk
      @bergauk 2 года назад +15

      Lego could definitely engrave the Lego logo into pieces and increase design compatibility but I don't think it'd really be worth retooling everything they currently use unless it really opened up design opportunities.

    • @koma-k
      @koma-k 2 года назад +27

      @@bergauk The LEGO logo could easily be swapped from raised to recessed; the moulds used do have a finite lifespan, so while it would take several years they *could* choose to make this change. Whether it is worth it or not is probably mostly a question of principles. Is making a few, esoteric constructions "kosher" worth it vs. messing with a logo that has been unchanged for decades?

    • @joet3935
      @joet3935 2 года назад +7

      @@koma-k I thought the LEGO Logo was a quality control device, like making sure the plastic was liquid enough to get all the way into the mold.

  • @Zach-cs5rp
    @Zach-cs5rp 2 года назад +17

    This is awesome! I would always direct any non-Lego friends to the "Stressing the Elements" powerpoint by Jamie Berard when they'd hear me talking about my builds or see the ever so misunderstood memes, but this more 'hands-on' video is way more intuitive and thorough (as well as being more modern with the new cone and 1x1 tile with clip molds).

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +4

      Based this video on that powerpoint!

    • @R0Sch88
      @R0Sch88 2 года назад +3

      @@TiagoCatarino Some of the old illegal builds from that powerpoint are outdated now, like sticking a transparent bar in the hole of another transparent part. The new trans clear material is not polycarbonate any more, it's the softer MABS now, so the friction is same as regular opaque bricks. That's why we see so many new recolored parts in transparent nowadays.

    • @Zaximillian
      @Zaximillian 2 года назад +1

      That PowerPoint presentation should be required viewing for many builders. We stumbled upon that presentation and re-presented it at one of our LUG meetings.

  • @gabojill19
    @gabojill19 Год назад

    "So I took that personally"
    Kudos

  • @MultiPokemonlover3
    @MultiPokemonlover3 Год назад +1

    I’ve always wondered what an illegal lego build would be, so this was really helpful :0

  • @justafrogwithahat355
    @justafrogwithahat355 2 года назад +4

    “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a Lego designer after being told that his techniques are illegal"
    - Some guy, probably

  • @gunnarsoderhielm3425
    @gunnarsoderhielm3425 2 года назад +7

    I have seen so many videos talking about what's legal and illegal when it comes to building legos and I almost didn't click on this video, thinking I knew everything it was gonna say. But then I did anyway and actually learned so much more about the topic and also how to identify it more easily. Thanks a lot for the info.

  • @dmitrikonnov922
    @dmitrikonnov922 Месяц назад

    I hope, nobody has been prosecuted so far for such illegal actions like that.

  •  2 года назад

    If these illegalities were a crime, I would have been a criminal as a kid.

  • @Herbsy420
    @Herbsy420 2 года назад +51

    Its kinda funny how I as a kid, didnt know that these are actually called illegal techniques, whenever I or my friends tried to build something using thes techniques I said it just didnt felt right to do it that way. So I kinda got a feeling for illegal techniques... I should become a Lego police officer!

    • @necroseus
      @necroseus Год назад

      HEY!

    • @reedomu
      @reedomu Год назад

      @@necroseus A man in Lego City is building with illegal techniques! Arrest him!

  • @pablesm
    @pablesm 2 года назад +3

    1:02 the left one is legal with bootleg parts

  • @ProWierdchamp
    @ProWierdchamp 8 месяцев назад +1

    One illegal LEGO thing I do is put the pin with a stud connection end on the bottom of a brick and it works

  • @RideTheTeacups
    @RideTheTeacups 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation of why these techniques are & aren’t legal! I had never known the reasoning before. Thanks!

  • @mackerel6099
    @mackerel6099 2 года назад +6

    This is really cool and insightful, thank you for sharing.
    I was wondering if you could share more about what is different between a single stud plate going into a technic brick vs a larger plate doing the same and why one is okay but the other is illegal, what specifically is it about a multiple stud plate attempting that connection that makes it illegal?

  • @HelixSnake
    @HelixSnake 2 года назад +6

    I was surprised that the maximally illegal move was not in this video, the one where you stick an Axle 2L or 3L into a Bohrok Shoulder with something placed in the gap, making all 3 pieces permanently locked together with no way to separate them without breaking one or more of the pieces

    • @thatonewelshguy6959
      @thatonewelshguy6959 2 года назад +1

      I would love to see that hard to picture it in my mind

    • @dolnikan4319
      @dolnikan4319 2 года назад +1

      @@thatonewelshguy6959 Seconded. I can't imagine what it would look like at all.

    • @reidskull5018
      @reidskull5018 2 года назад +1

      I don't know the names of the pieces so I'd like to see a picture as well

    • @listenhere1623
      @listenhere1623 2 года назад

      @@reidskull5018 but if someone makes a video of that they will get a lot of hate for PLAYING the wrong way

    • @VexinatorDesigns
      @VexinatorDesigns 2 года назад

      F

  • @sed6
    @sed6 Год назад

    Subbed cause you designed one of my fav sets!

  • @Noperare
    @Noperare 4 месяца назад

    Legos are so important in Denmark that if the police find out your build is damaging lego bricks, you are arrested for "illegal Lego techniques".

  • @masonwilliams9090
    @masonwilliams9090 2 года назад +4

    3:07 Sadly it's not, it still gets stressed and ultimately broken. I have several new clips and they're mostly broken, I didn't even use any illegal techniques similarly in the video, only had them clipped on some bars and they're still broken so no new clip design doesn't really help

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 2 года назад

      Just curious does it seem to happen more when the air is dry?
      During the Winter for example.

    • @masonwilliams9090
      @masonwilliams9090 2 года назад

      Nope it happens all the time. I mean I'm totally unable to notice when they break but whenever I check them, there's always cracks so idk if humidity can affect the plastic tho

  • @arrun5125
    @arrun5125 2 года назад +4

    Lots of these cases seem so close to being fine but there is just a 0.01 mm difference or something that makes them not work. I would love to know the reasons why there are these slight differences? (e.g. why weren't the holes designed at exactly the same height, etc)

  • @kiddprofit2500
    @kiddprofit2500 Год назад +1

    I seen the 1x1 and pin used before i never knew it was illegal

  • @Brain_pocketer
    @Brain_pocketer Год назад

    This is genuinely really helpful

  • @DouglasLambert
    @DouglasLambert 2 года назад +5

    Now you have to build something just with illegal techniques

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 года назад +2

      I can't! It's physically impossible for me!

  • @BeerBourbonandGames
    @BeerBourbonandGames 2 года назад +14

    I had no idea there was such a thing as an "illegal" build before. This channel is fascinating.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 года назад +1

      You must be new to lego

    • @BeerBourbonandGames
      @BeerBourbonandGames 2 года назад +2

      @@WalnutAnimations I built a lot when I was a kid, but only just picked it up again as an adult. So far I'm about 10 sets deep and loving it.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 года назад +1

      @@BeerBourbonandGames yeah it’s amazing for all ages

    • @BeerBourbonandGames
      @BeerBourbonandGames 2 года назад +1

      @@WalnutAnimations it really is! Currently I working on the new sonic the hedge hog set.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 года назад +1

      @@BeerBourbonandGames wow same!

  • @ERICROJO156
    @ERICROJO156 2 года назад

    Me pushing every Lego brick to its absolute limits (illegal): "If it dies, it dies"

  • @Sgt_Zajc
    @Sgt_Zajc Год назад

    Thank you for help, I will use them in future moc's