I own this lens - FYI - you can swap the lens mount with an eBay replacement lens mount that then allows the lens to be used on full frame Canon DSLR cameras as well as film cameras. It is usable from 12mm-18mm on FF SLRs. The most entertaining use I've found for it is on the 6Dm2, where it works for 12-18mm full frame 1080P with IS. The trick doesn't work on RF cameras though :(
Love those re-visits because the perspective what is good changes as we discover new and better gear. I bought all of my lenses after checking your reviews and Im happy that 10-18mm still delivers on the new R cameras :)
I actually used this lens recently for a real-estate photography job, at f/8 the image quality is more than good enough for web images. And the zoom range is just about perfect for that kind of work.
I love these R7 re-reviews. And I was just about to purchase this lens based on your previous videos but was wondering about adapting it to the R7. Thanks for the great review Mr Frost, you’re the best!
Thanks Christopher, i had hoped you might revisit some previous lenses with the R7 and i am delighted you have. I really like the way you produce the videos because you follow the same format each time which makes lens comparisons for us consumers much easier. Your videos for lens reviews are my first stop.
Something that caught a lot of 90D users off-guard was how demanding a sensor that dense can be (both have 32mp sensors). I actually joined a group on FB just to help people figure out what was going on with their photos not being everything they expected. Granted, a lot of it was user error or just plain unreasonable expectations, but we found some lenses to just not have the punch needed to push the sensor, especially in the case of moving subjects. What I am finding on the R7 is the much more sophisticated AF system negates some of the issues that might have just been missed focus on the 90D, where even a slight miss could ruin a shot due to the nature of the sensor's density being so sensitive. I have far less trouble on the R7, but I would be sure certain lenses are still not ideal as they just lack resolving power overall. Basically, older lenses were made in an era before high MP existed, and over time lens design has gotten better. I would think any RF and RF-S lenses will be fine. Most lenses made after 2006 should also be fine. Macro lenses seem to just beat all the odds and just kill it. L glass from the EF mount, well, it's not all the way across the board here. Anything that was a mkI tends to be less ideal, while the mkII and mkIII versions are tops. Even some cheap lenses do well, like the EF 50mm F1.8 and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM (the STM version is the only one I suggest here, the older 2 versions are a no-go). Primes usually hold up. It isn't as perilous as it might sound, just be aware of it.
I’ve used this lens for press photography. It’s an extremely useful tool when it is important for the photographer to be discreet and not draw attention to themselves -- without sacrificing image quality. Don't be put off by the plastic mount -- the images look superb on a 32 megapixel 90D sensor!
I have one of these 10-18mm lenses when I had my Canon M5. It's a very under-rated lens that gave me many excellent wide-field shots. Quite a lot of manufacturers could learn a lot from this lens.
I bought this lens mainly because of your review for my EOS M Magic Lantern rig last year. I use it for landscape and even light astrophotography even on manual focusing and with a mount adapter. It is truly a gem. Thank you so much for revisiting and adopting it to the R7. Bless you.
Rumor is there will be an RF-S 16-55mm F2.8 IS USM at some point. Still just a rumor though. I don't know if they will do anything like the 55-250mm, if anything probably re-mount the EF-M 55-200mm to RF-S like they did the 18-150mm and 18-45mm. It looks like they will do that for several EF-M lenses like the 11-22mm and 22mm F2. Lot of rumors, but those last two I think are slated for this year.
Hey Christopher, I’m here before this video gets thousands of views, I just want to say, thank you. You have made me purchase many lenses for my new 90D, and I must say, I love them. Anytime one one of my friends ask me about a lens, I always point to your channel. I’m very happy you take time to buy these lenses, go through the work to test it, then edit it. Great job man, your channel is awesome.
The fact that this delivers good sharpness on a 32mp sensor is seriously impressive. Crazy to think the optical design is nearly 10 years old! Seriously ahead of its time. The EF-S lineup from canon in the 2010s was seriously good. If I go onto the R7 (I am planning to buy a new body this year) it'll be thanks to these lenses!
@@zegzbrutal Well on my personal favourite, the 55-250, often has people talking about the fairly boring F5.6 max aperture. Sure it's boring, but, it's very practical. It lets in more than enough light for daytime action shots, or dawn/dusk shots on non moving subjects (With the IS on of course) - what more could you ask for out of a cheap lens? And as cameras get better at higher ISOs, it only becomes more usable as time goes by. Infact, Canons own "replacement" - the EF-M 55-200, goes down to F/6.3! - As do many cheaper tele lenses. It's not much darker sure, but it goes to show that F/5.6 isn't exactly dark. Same applies to most of the EF-S lineup. On UW lenses, you want to capture a lot, so you want a deep DOF anyway. If I owned one of these (I am tempted) I'd probably use it at F8 a lot of the time anyway- as I'm sure most would.
Its pretty good. I have used on the R7 and 90D, and found it to do decent in front of those demanding sensors. I think it is better on the R7 as the AF is so spot on. I've mostly shelved mine though for the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8, as it just works so well on the R7. Rumor is Canon is doing an updated version for the RF-S series, but so far it's just a rumor. I hope so, as I always felt it needed an updated model with more recent engineering, lens coating, better overall IS, and nanoUSM. And the design was always kinda blah, it looks like a lens released in the early 90's but was released in 2006. I think an RF-S model could be all the things I wanted in an mkII of the EF-S model.
These re-tests are very useful, thank you. Especially for those of us who blew our budget buying an r7! I recently bought an older tokina 11-16 f2.8 as there are limited choices for the wide end on an r7 and it seems to be working a treat! The 10-18 is just a little too dark for Aurora/Astro. I'd be interested to see what you made of the combination if you have a chance.
Hello Christopher. I love your work. I didn't see the link in the description to your documentary on the church. I'd love to check that out. Can you post the link? Thanks.
This is a great review and follow up with the newer mirrorless bodies. I’m looking to upgrade to an R7 and have this and some other EF-S lenses. Due to the limited options on RF for crop sensors at the moment, it’d be great to see some more of these revisits for other older EF-S lenses. I’d vote for the 18-135 STM, because I have one of those haha
I have this lens and have adapted it to a Fujifilm X H2s with the Sigma adapter. Works flawlessly and the images are outstanding. The reviews online from various resellers across the internet rate this lens 4.7 or higher from thousands of sales so that says how fantastic this lens is.
I would like to see a re-review of the Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS STM, with some focus on the AF on mirrorless, too! In general, I think many people have the Canon “kit” lenses so seeing how they perform on newer bodies, like the R7, is interesting. Keep it up!
I've loved this lens ever since I got it for Christmas a few years back. It's my favorite paired with a flash when my friends and I get together for events!
Nice DSLR APSC lens review for R7, Chris, good job ! Please retest other lens like EF-S 24mm 2.8 STM, EF-S 55-250 IS STM, EF-S 18-135mm IS STM, Tamron 17-35mm F2.8-4, etc. Thank you in advance 😄
Some quick hits for you for lenses I have used on my R7... EF-S 24mm F2.8 STM - Just as superb as it always was! So sharp for what I consider to be a must have lens for EF-S users. And since the R7 is pretty small, it makes such a compact setup, not to mention IBIS is awesome for lenses that have no IS. The adapter does add some size to it, but overall it's still pretty compact. Rumor is there will be a RF-S 22mm F2 at some point here, likely a re-mounted version of the very popular EF-M lens. Looking forward to that! EF-S 55-250mm IS STM - Again, it holds up. In a side by side test against the older 24mp 80D, there is a clear advantage in sharpness on the higher res sensor with this lens. So it resolves very well. Still has the drawback of the slow STM focus, but if you know how to do things like pre-focus, or don't shoot a lot of action, you will see the difference in resolution. EF-S 18-135mm IS STM - I didn't have this one, I had the newer nanoUSM version, but IQ is about the same. It's not bad, I didn't see a big difference in IQ from the 24mp or 32mp sensor. Still good though, and this lens is more about versatility than anything. I would suggest looking into the RF-S 18-150mm lens that can be bundled with the R7. It surprised me how good it was, and side by side does a better job overall than the 18-135mm. It even has fairly minimal focus breathing, making it great for close up shots! The smaller size is nice too. But if you have the 18-135mm you can use it and it will be fine. I don't have the Tamron lens to test, sorry.
Thanks for the review! It’s very helpful to see different options for the R7. I’m trying to find a balance between cost and image quality for both stills, and video.
Great video as always. As a R7 and EF-S 10-18 mm lens owner, I was quite happy to see I could justify keeping that lens and use it with an adapter. The 32.5 megapixels of that camera allow me to crop images without any significant loss in resolution which gives me some flexibility in terms of lens choice, I suppose.
Have this one and did use it also on my R7. Would really like to see an 11mm RF-S f1.8 image stabilised. That would be an awesome lense, lets cross fingers… Thanks for the review and yeah, can confirm your thoughts on the lens, thanks to your mother in law. Not getting sick at all of your reviews, keep them coming.
Can you please review the Ricoh GRIII or GRIIIx? It would be really interesting to see how that camera and its built-in lens would perform in your test.
I agree with all that is said here. I am using the same lens (bought secondhand on-line for less than £100) but with a Viltrox adaptor to the R7 camera and it works 100% in all functions. Helluva good setup.
I'm so glad this review made it to my feed! I own this lens and body but have not done a lot with it. It's been horribly dull and overcast for the past several weeks so I haven't taken this wide angle lens out for a fair spin. I'm looking forward to it now!
I love this lens. DXO photolab7 does a great job on lens corrections wide open. I have a canon 7Dii. Good to see it will work on a R7 if I buy one in the future
Depending on the version you have, it can be different. The STM model I found to work decent on the 32mp sensor. In a side by side comparison with the older 24mp sensor of the 80D I found it to have no clear advantage; it just doesn't have the resolve to fully use the higher resolution. Which isn't bad, it still looks pretty good. If you were happy with it on whatever you have now it will still give the same results. If you have the older IS II or the original IS version, those don't fair so well. I would either trade up to the STM version or, if you are going to put some money into a lens anyway, look into the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM instead. Used they can be found for under 400 USD now, and they are a large step up from any of the kit lenses.
keep going with the R7 reviews ;) For me it´s really interesting to see if adapting ef-s lenses make any sense. Especially as there are not a lot of native rf-s lenses out there yet and FF lenses on apsc sensors dont make much sense. Also, i´m interested in a test of the ef-s 17-55 F2.8 IS USM lens on the R7, because i used this lens on a older dslr and it is quite sharp. I would want to use this lens as an always-on lens on my R7, but it´s quite heavy and i´d love to know how it compares to the rf-s 18-150 kit lens.
@@JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe It works pretty well on the R7. I would say it does better on my R7 than it did my 90D basically because the better AF system. It's still the lens I suggest to crop shooters looking to get a little more serious about what they do, and want something versatile and fast.
I waited a while before making the jump to mirrorless and finally purchased the EOS R7 a couple of months ago. Since I already had a collection of EF mount lenses, including the 10-18 IS STM, I felt comfortable just buying a Canon adapter and using all my old lenses. So far, I have not been disappointed, especially with my 'L' lenses. (Actually my only disappointment so far is with my Tamron 18-400 lens, which is also the softest of my lenses on my DSLR bodies.) It will be quite a long time before I feel compelled to buy any RF mount lenses. Thanks for doing this review, which confirms my experiences so far.
I purchased a used version of this lens for my IR Sony A6100 last Christmas. For IR, it is a nice little lens with no hot spots wide open. I adapted it with a Metabones EF to FE v4 adapter
Nice re-review, Chris. I am using this lens onto my 40D, 50D, since i've bought it into ca. 2014. It was way cheap, and since it's no F3.5-4.5, the IS makes up for that.
One amazing thing about this lens is its image circle coverage, making it a budget ultra wide full frame lens too. When I mount it with an adapter on a full frame camera and zoom in at around 14mm, the vignette becomes very acceptable. Also this lens is a hack to counter the 1.6x 4k crop on earlier RF mount cameras.
Hi. I always find your videos very useful. I have a canon 7D MK II and I'm thinking about upgrading to an R7. My main driver is better image stabilization for travel photography whilst keeping my existing lenses. Will the R7 in body image stabilisation work in tandem with the efs 10-18 and 18-135 lens stabilisation to give even better hand held photos? I often travel light without a tripod and this would be a big plus for me. I'm also wondering if my sigma 105 macro image stabilization will work with the ibis on the R7. Hand held macro would be much improved if it does. Primarily I'm interested in the canon EFS 10-18, 18-135, and 55-250 with EFS to Rs adapter as they are my travel light options without a tripod. I was photographing a waterfall hand held in Thailand yesterday polarised, zoomed in on some rocks. Hand held with IS I was comfortable down to 1/45 seconds exposure taking a burst to hope I have sharp rocks and moving water. It would have been great to be able to hand hold 1/10 or longer. This would be an easy decision to upgrade if the 7D MK II wasn't such a brilliant camera. Thanks again for your very informative channel. Chris
This quickly became one of my favorite lenses back in my days of shooting with the Rebel T3i. Up until that point I had not bothered with an ultra-wide due to them not really being in abundance on crop cameras and their cost just wasn't appealing to me at that time. This one stepped in at that 300 USD price point and turned out to be a good performer. The lightweight made it easy to keep with me, and the wide angle of view made for some fun compositions combined with that close focus. Its still the lens I most commonly suggest to people on crop sensor Canon cameras. As a side note, it has always disappointed me how a faster version of lenses like this was never made by Canon. An F2.8 model in the same style as the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM would have been a welcome addition to the line up for those that just wanted something more and didn't want to have to get a full frame setup that would add not only cost but a lot of weight too. As it stands, I know of only two AF lenses with an F2.8 constant aperture that have a similar zoom range, the Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 and 11-20mm F2.8. Canon just never took their crop series all that seriously, and I while I realize a lens like this would likely still be the more preferred to the budget minded, I think there are a lot of enthusiast out there that want a faster version of lenses like this and would put the money into it. Even though I am now much more invested into full frame setups, I still keep a crop setup as it is lighter overall for those times where I just don't need my L glass. The 10-18mm goes in that bag, and my back is much happier when I am out walking around for 8 or so hours at a time.
I have owned this lens for some time and as an experiment tried it out with my new R7 (plus adapter) and like you I am very surprised and delighted with the results from this inexpensive Lens and its performance.
Got mine for $106 last year for a used copy. Went out to shoot a cycling race with this lens and I couldn’t be happier.. ultra wide angle + IS; great combo for panning shots as riders go by..
Nice review. Other comments have listed lens but missed ef-s: 10-22 15-85 17-85 18-200 35 macro 60 macro Would be lovely to see how they perform on the R7
I can help on a couple of those... 10-22mm - The 10-18mm pretty well outperforms it on the 32mp sensor. It just lacks resolving power to make a difference, likely due to its age and overall design (wasn't intended for sensors with such high density). Still does ok, if you have one it should work decent. I and others found it has to be stopped down to get any real clarity though, but that is common on a UWA lens. 15-85mm - I didn't have one to test, but seen plenty of shots from this lens in FB groups to know it is a good match. 60mm Macro - the macro lenses of the world are a special breed of lens. They seem to just always be sharp due to their special nature. Comparing against the older 24mp sensor of the 80D I found it to have a clear advantage in sharpness in the texture and details of a subject, which of course is the bread and butter of macro shooting. I only got rid of mine as I was using my 100mm macro more often and felt someone else might as well get some joy out of what was my very first "upgrade" lens many years ago. 35mm Macro - I didn't have one to test, but I would guess its the same case as the 60mm. I have yet to meet the macro lens that doesn't make the 32mp sensor it's bitch.
Thank you for this review! I have this lens on the 90D, which has the same sensor as the R7, and I always wondered if these lower end EF-S lenses are sharp enough for that sensor. Now I know at least one of my lenses is! :)
I kept this lens for a backup Canon EOS 77D. I made some pro pictures last fall in the vineyards, and it performed perfectly. For the price and weight it is truly an incredible deal.
Great little lens! I used to use it on the EOS R to get around the 4K crop, and it work very well. Managed to get decent hand held footage too, even though the EOS R didn't have sensor stabilisation.
The EF-S 10-18mm is useable *IF* I keep its titanic field curvature in check (center focus can be at infinity and corners more like 12 feet). The trick is to set the focus *much much much* farther out, stop down to f/8, and use the lens's deep depth of field to my advantage. Indoor photos are less of a problem (where the subject field is often curved to fit the lens). Adapting onto a 'cropped' MFT mount works well (crops the worst of the corners). MFT speed-boasting is not a good idea. FYI - I passed on the R7 because it shoots abysmally mushy UHD 60fps fullish-frame video using some sort of horrendous line-skipping process. Otherwise a great camera.
Thanks for reviewing this interesting lens paired with the R7. Even though I use my R7 predominantly for wildlife, I still do a fair bit of landscape photography with it. I've been looking for a lens that would be wider than the 18-150 mm kit lens, and that would be almost as sharp in the corners as in the center when paired with the R7. Again, thank you for your good work!!
I have no idea what lens do you test but I owned 3 copies and all were soft at image borders and especially in the corners. This lens has huge field curvature and maybe that’s the problem this test scene doesn’t reflect this weakness at all.
I used the 10-18 for several years mostly for interior photography. Had decent image quality. Two downsides for me were corner performance after corrections and nasty small green flares from ceiling spotlights I had to stamp out every time. Later replaced it with 17-40L on Eos RP. To me image quality is way better but price and weight doubles.
I recently had an opportunity to acquire either a Tokina 11 to 20 2.8 or this lens. Being that both lenses have great review from Chris, I looked at the pros and cons, and ultimately went with the Tokina for only $150 vs the Canon at $180 both used. I felt that the IS wasn't that important versus the extra light, since I don't do too much videos, and the extra light is more useful in darker situations, and at wider angles, IS is not too important, just need to increase the speed a little, but still keep the iso lower, and a full frame equivalent of 17.6 is plenty for super wide situations.
Ooops! I only meant to release one video today, not two...enjoy, everybody :-)
Thanks Chris! did you tried the tokina 11-16 f2.8 on the eos R7?? weird performace on video and photo
I own this lens - FYI - you can swap the lens mount with an eBay replacement lens mount that then allows the lens to be used on full frame Canon DSLR cameras as well as film cameras. It is usable from 12mm-18mm on FF SLRs. The most entertaining use I've found for it is on the 6Dm2, where it works for 12-18mm full frame 1080P with IS. The trick doesn't work on RF cameras though :(
Love those re-visits because the perspective what is good changes as we discover new and better gear. I bought all of my lenses after checking your reviews and Im happy that 10-18mm still delivers on the new R cameras :)
I actually used this lens recently for a real-estate photography job, at f/8 the image quality is more than good enough for web images. And the zoom range is just about perfect for that kind of work.
Thank you! I'd love to see the opposite now - 55-250 stm - and how it performs on the R7.
I really enjoyed the 55-250 on my M6 II, and I would also be curious about the R7. A nice review, thanks.
How did you find the IQ of 55-250 IS STM on the same megapixels of M6MKII?
I love these R7 re-reviews. And I was just about to purchase this lens based on your previous videos but was wondering about adapting it to the R7. Thanks for the great review Mr Frost, you’re the best!
Thanks Christopher, i had hoped you might revisit some previous lenses with the R7 and i am delighted you have. I really like the way you produce the videos because you follow the same format each time which makes lens comparisons for us consumers much easier. Your videos for lens reviews are my first stop.
As a new R7 owner myself, I really appreciate these videos since they give me lens ideas I may not have otherwise thought of.
Something that caught a lot of 90D users off-guard was how demanding a sensor that dense can be (both have 32mp sensors). I actually joined a group on FB just to help people figure out what was going on with their photos not being everything they expected. Granted, a lot of it was user error or just plain unreasonable expectations, but we found some lenses to just not have the punch needed to push the sensor, especially in the case of moving subjects. What I am finding on the R7 is the much more sophisticated AF system negates some of the issues that might have just been missed focus on the 90D, where even a slight miss could ruin a shot due to the nature of the sensor's density being so sensitive. I have far less trouble on the R7, but I would be sure certain lenses are still not ideal as they just lack resolving power overall. Basically, older lenses were made in an era before high MP existed, and over time lens design has gotten better. I would think any RF and RF-S lenses will be fine. Most lenses made after 2006 should also be fine. Macro lenses seem to just beat all the odds and just kill it. L glass from the EF mount, well, it's not all the way across the board here. Anything that was a mkI tends to be less ideal, while the mkII and mkIII versions are tops. Even some cheap lenses do well, like the EF 50mm F1.8 and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM (the STM version is the only one I suggest here, the older 2 versions are a no-go). Primes usually hold up.
It isn't as perilous as it might sound, just be aware of it.
I’ve used this lens for press photography. It’s an extremely useful tool when it is important for the photographer to be discreet and not draw attention to themselves -- without sacrificing image quality. Don't be put off by the plastic mount -- the images look superb on a 32 megapixel 90D sensor!
Christopher, these old / new combos are really cool! Thank you!
I have one of these 10-18mm lenses when I had my Canon M5. It's a very under-rated lens that gave me many excellent wide-field shots. Quite a lot of manufacturers could learn a lot from this lens.
I bought this lens mainly because of your review for my EOS M Magic Lantern rig last year. I use it for landscape and even light astrophotography even on manual focusing and with a mount adapter. It is truly a gem. Thank you so much for revisiting and adopting it to the R7. Bless you.
Great review as always, thank you. If you have time I would love to see how the canon ef-s 15-85mm does on the R7. Its one of my favorite apsc lens.
I'll never get tired of these r7 test. Also because I have one too and I love it. Thanks for making these videos :)
Clicked the liked button on the start of the video! More re-visited lens reviews please!
Keep the R7 reviews coming! Just heard you mention that... we love all your videos!
Thank you very much. Your Re-Reviews with the R7 are very helpfull for me!!! More of that!
Thanks for your reviews. Could you test rfs 10-18?
Thanks a lot! it would be interesting to try 17-55 and 55-250stm...when will they decide to make new rf-s lenses????
Rumor is there will be an RF-S 16-55mm F2.8 IS USM at some point. Still just a rumor though. I don't know if they will do anything like the 55-250mm, if anything probably re-mount the EF-M 55-200mm to RF-S like they did the 18-150mm and 18-45mm. It looks like they will do that for several EF-M lenses like the 11-22mm and 22mm F2. Lot of rumors, but those last two I think are slated for this year.
Hey Christopher, I’m here before this video gets thousands of views, I just want to say, thank you. You have made me purchase many lenses for my new 90D, and I must say, I love them. Anytime one one of my friends ask me about a lens, I always point to your channel. I’m very happy you take time to buy these lenses, go through the work to test it, then edit it. Great job man, your channel is awesome.
The fact that this delivers good sharpness on a 32mp sensor is seriously impressive. Crazy to think the optical design is nearly 10 years old! Seriously ahead of its time. The EF-S lineup from canon in the 2010s was seriously good.
If I go onto the R7 (I am planning to buy a new body this year) it'll be thanks to these lenses!
I remember back then people complain about the aperture...just like nowadays
@@zegzbrutal Well on my personal favourite, the 55-250, often has people talking about the fairly boring F5.6 max aperture. Sure it's boring, but, it's very practical. It lets in more than enough light for daytime action shots, or dawn/dusk shots on non moving subjects (With the IS on of course) - what more could you ask for out of a cheap lens?
And as cameras get better at higher ISOs, it only becomes more usable as time goes by.
Infact, Canons own "replacement" - the EF-M 55-200, goes down to F/6.3! - As do many cheaper tele lenses. It's not much darker sure, but it goes to show that F/5.6 isn't exactly dark. Same applies to most of the EF-S lineup.
On UW lenses, you want to capture a lot, so you want a deep DOF anyway. If I owned one of these (I am tempted) I'd probably use it at F8 a lot of the time anyway- as I'm sure most would.
lots of 10 year old lenses work fine, not crazy at all.
@@southbridgeforestHOA it's pretty impressive that they work well on a 32mp sensor given 24mp would've been a lot back then.
Glass is glass, physics is physics
Your reviews are great, concise and accurate. Could you please do the new canon rfs 10-18 and compare it to the proven efs 10-18? Thanks much!
Fantastic thanks Chris!
I think I'm not the only one who'd love to see how the very old ef's 17-55 F:2.8 IS USM performs on the R7.
It performs superbly for me!
Its pretty good. I have used on the R7 and 90D, and found it to do decent in front of those demanding sensors. I think it is better on the R7 as the AF is so spot on. I've mostly shelved mine though for the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8, as it just works so well on the R7.
Rumor is Canon is doing an updated version for the RF-S series, but so far it's just a rumor. I hope so, as I always felt it needed an updated model with more recent engineering, lens coating, better overall IS, and nanoUSM. And the design was always kinda blah, it looks like a lens released in the early 90's but was released in 2006. I think an RF-S model could be all the things I wanted in an mkII of the EF-S model.
You are a total life saver Man🎉 you have no idea how helpful was ur videos in my photography life😊😊😊😊
One of my all time favorite budget travel lens. 👍👍
These re-tests are very useful, thank you. Especially for those of us who blew our budget buying an r7! I recently bought an older tokina 11-16 f2.8 as there are limited choices for the wide end on an r7 and it seems to be working a treat! The 10-18 is just a little too dark for Aurora/Astro. I'd be interested to see what you made of the combination if you have a chance.
do you have IBIS issues with the Tokina on the R7? (in video mode)
I haven't used it for video yet. The focus motor might be a little noisy for video? it is quite an old lens.
Hello Christopher. I love your work. I didn't see the link in the description to your documentary on the church. I'd love to check that out. Can you post the link? Thanks.
This is a great review and follow up with the newer mirrorless bodies. I’m looking to upgrade to an R7 and have this and some other EF-S lenses. Due to the limited options on RF for crop sensors at the moment, it’d be great to see some more of these revisits for other older EF-S lenses. I’d vote for the 18-135 STM, because I have one of those haha
Thanks Chris. Just what I was looking for.
Can’t wait for you to do the EF-S 55-250mm
I have this lens and have adapted it to a Fujifilm X H2s with the Sigma adapter. Works flawlessly and the images are outstanding. The reviews online from various resellers across the internet rate this lens 4.7 or higher from thousands of sales so that says how fantastic this lens is.
I would like to see a re-review of the Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS STM, with some focus on the AF on mirrorless, too! In general, I think many people have the Canon “kit” lenses so seeing how they perform on newer bodies, like the R7, is interesting. Keep it up!
I've loved this lens ever since I got it for Christmas a few years back. It's my favorite paired with a flash when my friends and I get together for events!
Keep them coming!
Use this lens for my 100d, m6, m50 & r10
Thanks for these re-reviews !! Are definitely very useful
Great job as always.
Nice DSLR APSC lens review for R7, Chris, good job !
Please retest other lens like EF-S 24mm 2.8 STM, EF-S 55-250 IS STM, EF-S 18-135mm IS STM, Tamron 17-35mm F2.8-4, etc.
Thank you in advance 😄
Some quick hits for you for lenses I have used on my R7...
EF-S 24mm F2.8 STM - Just as superb as it always was! So sharp for what I consider to be a must have lens for EF-S users. And since the R7 is pretty small, it makes such a compact setup, not to mention IBIS is awesome for lenses that have no IS. The adapter does add some size to it, but overall it's still pretty compact. Rumor is there will be a RF-S 22mm F2 at some point here, likely a re-mounted version of the very popular EF-M lens. Looking forward to that!
EF-S 55-250mm IS STM - Again, it holds up. In a side by side test against the older 24mp 80D, there is a clear advantage in sharpness on the higher res sensor with this lens. So it resolves very well. Still has the drawback of the slow STM focus, but if you know how to do things like pre-focus, or don't shoot a lot of action, you will see the difference in resolution.
EF-S 18-135mm IS STM - I didn't have this one, I had the newer nanoUSM version, but IQ is about the same. It's not bad, I didn't see a big difference in IQ from the 24mp or 32mp sensor. Still good though, and this lens is more about versatility than anything. I would suggest looking into the RF-S 18-150mm lens that can be bundled with the R7. It surprised me how good it was, and side by side does a better job overall than the 18-135mm. It even has fairly minimal focus breathing, making it great for close up shots! The smaller size is nice too. But if you have the 18-135mm you can use it and it will be fine.
I don't have the Tamron lens to test, sorry.
@@kevindiaz3459 Wow, great experience sharing, thank you Kevin 👍😄
What a great underrated camera. I ordered the 100-400mm RF lens, now i need the third piece of the trinity. This wide angle may be it!
My favourite and most used lens ever. I use this to shoot interior, architecture, and even weddings.
Thanks for the review! It’s very helpful to see different options for the R7. I’m trying to find a balance between cost and image quality for both stills, and video.
I took my most favorite photo with this little WAL, and also photo, which people like the most was taken with it, just a lovely one.
Having recently gotten an R7 these reviews are perfect!
Excellent review! I hope you test other old lenses on new cameras.
I purchased this years ago after finding your channel. I love this on both the M50 and M6 MkII
Great video as always. As a R7 and EF-S 10-18 mm lens owner, I was quite happy to see I could justify keeping that lens and use it with an adapter. The 32.5 megapixels of that camera allow me to crop images without any significant loss in resolution which gives me some flexibility in terms of lens choice, I suppose.
I have the same set. I am very happy with it.
Love love love these reviews as an R7 owner.
Thanks for reviewing this lens I need to get one now
Have this one and did use it also on my R7. Would really like to see an 11mm RF-S f1.8 image stabilised. That would be an awesome lense, lets cross fingers… Thanks for the review and yeah, can confirm your thoughts on the lens, thanks to your mother in law. Not getting sick at all of your reviews, keep them coming.
Can you please review the Ricoh GRIII or GRIIIx? It would be really interesting to see how that camera and its built-in lens would perform in your test.
Cand you pin the link for the Christian documentary please?
Love the R7 reviews :-D
Excellent review, thank you.
I agree with all that is said here. I am using the same lens (bought secondhand on-line for less than £100) but with a Viltrox adaptor to the R7 camera and it works 100% in all functions. Helluva good setup.
I'm so glad this review made it to my feed! I own this lens and body but have not done a lot with it. It's been horribly dull and overcast for the past several weeks so I haven't taken this wide angle lens out for a fair spin. I'm looking forward to it now!
I love this lens. DXO photolab7 does a great job on lens corrections wide open. I have a canon 7Dii. Good to see it will work on a R7 if I buy one in the future
Wow! Can’t believe it’s that sharp! Maybe 18-55 EFS kit lens re-visit? 👍🏻
Depending on the version you have, it can be different. The STM model I found to work decent on the 32mp sensor. In a side by side comparison with the older 24mp sensor of the 80D I found it to have no clear advantage; it just doesn't have the resolve to fully use the higher resolution. Which isn't bad, it still looks pretty good. If you were happy with it on whatever you have now it will still give the same results. If you have the older IS II or the original IS version, those don't fair so well. I would either trade up to the STM version or, if you are going to put some money into a lens anyway, look into the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM instead. Used they can be found for under 400 USD now, and they are a large step up from any of the kit lenses.
@@kevindiaz3459 thank you so much Kevin! 🫶🏻
Cool review, would love to see one for the EFs10-22 and the EFs 18-200 on the R7!!
I Love the channel. I follow you since the your first year. Quick question. You used the EF-RF adaptor for the EF-S lens on the RF-S camera?
keep going with the R7 reviews ;)
For me it´s really interesting to see if adapting ef-s lenses make any sense. Especially as there are not a lot of native rf-s lenses out there yet and FF lenses on apsc sensors dont make much sense.
Also, i´m interested in a test of the ef-s 17-55 F2.8 IS USM lens on the R7, because i used this lens on a older dslr and it is quite sharp. I would want to use this lens as an always-on lens on my R7, but it´s quite heavy and i´d love to know how it compares to the rf-s 18-150 kit lens.
Can I ask, how were you able to find this video? It's meant to be set to 'unlisted' but I can't figure out how it's getting views
@@christopherfrost Hi, i found this video in the playlist "canon lens reviews" on your channel
I would also love a re-review of the 17-55 2.8 IS !! It would be the dream all around lens for the R7…
@@JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe It works pretty well on the R7. I would say it does better on my R7 than it did my 90D basically because the better AF system. It's still the lens I suggest to crop shooters looking to get a little more serious about what they do, and want something versatile and fast.
@@kevindiaz3459 Thanks!! How is the IS system? Doesn´t work as good as the native RF lenses right? Is it sharp enough for video on 4k?
I waited a while before making the jump to mirrorless and finally purchased the EOS R7 a couple of months ago. Since I already had a collection of EF mount lenses, including the 10-18 IS STM, I felt comfortable just buying a Canon adapter and using all my old lenses. So far, I have not been disappointed, especially with my 'L' lenses. (Actually my only disappointment so far is with my Tamron 18-400 lens, which is also the softest of my lenses on my DSLR bodies.) It will be quite a long time before I feel compelled to buy any RF mount lenses. Thanks for doing this review, which confirms my experiences so far.
I got this lens on sale right after it came out. Hard to beat for the price.
Off topic question: What's that castle at 7:25?
I purchased a used version of this lens for my IR Sony A6100 last Christmas. For IR, it is a nice little lens with no hot spots wide open. I adapted it with a Metabones EF to FE v4 adapter
Nice re-review, Chris. I am using this lens onto my 40D, 50D, since i've bought it into ca. 2014. It was way cheap, and since it's no F3.5-4.5, the IS makes up for that.
Not sick of old lenses on the r7. Thanks.
Good video ,thanks.
One amazing thing about this lens is its image circle coverage, making it a budget ultra wide full frame lens too. When I mount it with an adapter on a full frame camera and zoom in at around 14mm, the vignette becomes very acceptable. Also this lens is a hack to counter the 1.6x 4k crop on earlier RF mount cameras.
Hi. I always find your videos very useful. I have a canon 7D MK II and I'm thinking about upgrading to an R7. My main driver is better image stabilization for travel photography whilst keeping my existing lenses. Will the R7 in body image stabilisation work in tandem with the efs 10-18 and 18-135 lens stabilisation to give even better hand held photos? I often travel light without a tripod and this would be a big plus for me. I'm also wondering if my sigma 105 macro image stabilization will work with the ibis on the R7. Hand held macro would be much improved if it does. Primarily I'm interested in the canon EFS 10-18, 18-135, and 55-250 with EFS to Rs adapter as they are my travel light options without a tripod. I was photographing a waterfall hand held in Thailand yesterday polarised, zoomed in on some rocks. Hand held with IS I was comfortable down to 1/45 seconds exposure taking a burst to hope I have sharp rocks and moving water. It would have been great to be able to hand hold 1/10 or longer.
This would be an easy decision to upgrade if the 7D MK II wasn't such a brilliant camera.
Thanks again for your very informative channel.
Chris
This quickly became one of my favorite lenses back in my days of shooting with the Rebel T3i. Up until that point I had not bothered with an ultra-wide due to them not really being in abundance on crop cameras and their cost just wasn't appealing to me at that time. This one stepped in at that 300 USD price point and turned out to be a good performer. The lightweight made it easy to keep with me, and the wide angle of view made for some fun compositions combined with that close focus. Its still the lens I most commonly suggest to people on crop sensor Canon cameras.
As a side note, it has always disappointed me how a faster version of lenses like this was never made by Canon. An F2.8 model in the same style as the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM would have been a welcome addition to the line up for those that just wanted something more and didn't want to have to get a full frame setup that would add not only cost but a lot of weight too. As it stands, I know of only two AF lenses with an F2.8 constant aperture that have a similar zoom range, the Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 and 11-20mm F2.8. Canon just never took their crop series all that seriously, and I while I realize a lens like this would likely still be the more preferred to the budget minded, I think there are a lot of enthusiast out there that want a faster version of lenses like this and would put the money into it. Even though I am now much more invested into full frame setups, I still keep a crop setup as it is lighter overall for those times where I just don't need my L glass. The 10-18mm goes in that bag, and my back is much happier when I am out walking around for 8 or so hours at a time.
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MORE R7 TEST PLEASE!
I have owned this lens for some time and as an experiment tried it out with my new R7 (plus adapter) and like you I am very surprised and delighted with the results from this inexpensive Lens and its performance.
I don't see the link for the documentary that you shot. I'd love to check that out and see how our brothers and sisters are doing.
Got mine for $106 last year for a used copy. Went out to shoot a cycling race with this lens and I couldn’t be happier.. ultra wide angle + IS; great combo for panning shots as riders go by..
Nice review. Other comments have listed lens but missed ef-s:
10-22
15-85
17-85
18-200
35 macro
60 macro
Would be lovely to see how they perform on the R7
I can help on a couple of those...
10-22mm - The 10-18mm pretty well outperforms it on the 32mp sensor. It just lacks resolving power to make a difference, likely due to its age and overall design (wasn't intended for sensors with such high density). Still does ok, if you have one it should work decent. I and others found it has to be stopped down to get any real clarity though, but that is common on a UWA lens.
15-85mm - I didn't have one to test, but seen plenty of shots from this lens in FB groups to know it is a good match.
60mm Macro - the macro lenses of the world are a special breed of lens. They seem to just always be sharp due to their special nature. Comparing against the older 24mp sensor of the 80D I found it to have a clear advantage in sharpness in the texture and details of a subject, which of course is the bread and butter of macro shooting. I only got rid of mine as I was using my 100mm macro more often and felt someone else might as well get some joy out of what was my very first "upgrade" lens many years ago.
35mm Macro - I didn't have one to test, but I would guess its the same case as the 60mm. I have yet to meet the macro lens that doesn't make the 32mp sensor it's bitch.
Thank you for this review! I have this lens on the 90D, which has the same sensor as the R7, and I always wondered if these lower end EF-S lenses are sharp enough for that sensor.
Now I know at least one of my lenses is! :)
Thanks for the review! With so many decent EF and EF-S lenses out there, most hobbyists won't need to pay extra for the RF lenses.
Thanks for the video. Have you tested the EFs 10-22 mm on an R7 body yet? I would be interested to see the results.
I kept this lens for a backup Canon EOS 77D. I made some pro pictures last fall in the vineyards, and it performed perfectly. For the price and weight it is truly an incredible deal.
Great little lens! I used to use it on the EOS R to get around the 4K crop, and it work very well. Managed to get decent hand held footage too, even though the EOS R didn't have sensor stabilisation.
What about comparison between this and efs 10-18 ?? That would be very good video
The EF-S 10-18mm is useable *IF* I keep its titanic field curvature in check (center focus can be at infinity and corners more like 12 feet). The trick is to set the focus *much much much* farther out, stop down to f/8, and use the lens's deep depth of field to my advantage. Indoor photos are less of a problem (where the subject field is often curved to fit the lens). Adapting onto a 'cropped' MFT mount works well (crops the worst of the corners). MFT speed-boasting is not a good idea. FYI - I passed on the R7 because it shoots abysmally mushy UHD 60fps fullish-frame video using some sort of horrendous line-skipping process. Otherwise a great camera.
Hi Mr Frost, is these combination of camera and lens is good for shooting wedding?
A drawdown would be the low light capability. I'd like to see a comparison to the budget RF 16 lens.
This lens is such a bargain! Such value for money! Love to use it with my Canon EOS M50!
Great video. How does the canon 10-18 compare to the ef-m 11-22 on the Canon m6 mark ii, since the r7 and m6 ii both have the 32.5 sensor?
This lens is a surprising little powerhouse. Very great quality for the affordability!
I need a wide lens. Good review.
Thanks for reviewing this interesting lens paired with the R7.
Even though I use my R7 predominantly for wildlife, I still do a fair bit of landscape photography with it. I've been looking for a lens that would be wider than the 18-150 mm kit lens, and that would be almost as sharp in the corners as in the center when paired with the R7.
Again, thank you for your good work!!
What a surprise. I was watching the original video of this lens just yesterday and wondering how it would perform in a mirrorless camera.
I have no idea what lens do you test but I owned 3 copies and all were soft at image borders and especially in the corners. This lens has huge field curvature and maybe that’s the problem this test scene doesn’t reflect this weakness at all.
I used the 10-18 for several years mostly for interior photography. Had decent image quality. Two downsides for me were corner performance after corrections and nasty small green flares from ceiling spotlights I had to stamp out every time. Later replaced it with 17-40L on Eos RP. To me image quality is way better but price and weight doubles.
The 10-18 is not good at all in the corners but the 17-40 is horrible. I spent 700€ for a 16-35 f4L and this lens can be called sharp
Can you do a review of the 55-250 stm on the r7 pls
I'm using this lens on my Canon 90D, and it's pretty good.
LOVE the R7 reviews! Bit disappointed about my Canon 10-22mm 3.5 though :( Sounds like I needed the 10-18
I've this setup works well until their new wide lens come but based on previous units may have huge barrel distortion and software corrections
Sick of these reviews? I love them. I get excited when you post reviews with the R7.
little question is it compatible with a Canon Canon EOS 500D?
I recently had an opportunity to acquire either a Tokina 11 to 20 2.8 or this lens. Being that both lenses have great review from Chris, I looked at the pros and cons, and ultimately went with the Tokina for only $150 vs the Canon at $180 both used. I felt that the IS wasn't that important versus the extra light, since I don't do too much videos, and the extra light is more useful in darker situations, and at wider angles, IS is not too important, just need to increase the speed a little, but still keep the iso lower, and a full frame equivalent of 17.6 is plenty for super wide situations.