I can't believe I am making this comment but I am aware the Thomas Reboot is a very "controversial" topic when it doesn't need to be. You are more than welcomed to skip the AEG Whiff part if you dont wanna hear positive points about the reboot, nobody is stopping you just please keep your rude banters and comments out of this discussion, people who DONT do that end up looking like 5 year old children. Many thanks.
Going to be honest, if AEG was billed as a spin-off rather than a reboot, there would be at least 75% less hate for it. For example, if AEG was treated like Sonic Boom (The cartoon at least, games are a different case) people wouldn't keep complaining so much of it "replacing" Thomas.
I like the idea that Misty Island was like an urban myth which was part of the culture of the industrial engines, explaining why Whiff and Salty are the ones who know about it.
I have weirdly always adored Whiff, ever since watching his introductory episode. It's just his design and everything. But I always felt that he and Emily had a deeper connection. (They both looked like the same shade of green to young me) so I always think they actually knew eachother beforhand.
Whiff is another favorite HiT era character of mine cause I like the idea of an engine wearing glasses, something that's unique to the show that was never implied to others. And while I'm not a fan of the rubbish dump concept, I have to agree that it not only gave Whiff a purpose, but fleshed him more as a breakout character like Emily since they didn't do much with him near the end of the model series run.
In my headcanon Whiff was built by the Sodor and Mainland Railway in 1870 after the design of the real engine he later Sold to the North western railway In 1920 when it opened in my headcanon, he was Numbered 356, with it being one of the Pre-grouping Numbers of the Surviveng engines Pre-grouping engines, he is a maintenence utility engine who can help out if needed Fun fact: Whiff's Name is Not only Changed to Whiffield but he still wears glasses
In my headcanon whiff served in the war and was in an explosion that’s why he has his glasses and he’s the inspection engine and pulls workmen around the railway In a works unit coach
Wow. That's a great video on Whiff throughout the show's eras. He's a great character for me, even in CGI. If there's one thing the CGI writers should have done in the show like during the Brenner era is create a episode that features Whiff losing his glasses because it would be interesting to see what happens if he does like can't see well without them or something. I don't know, just a thought. What do you think?
I only just realised this when you brought up the whole Whiff-Fat Controller pairing, but that pairing could be an in-joke to how Whiff's basis (NER No. 66 'Aerolite') was used to haul the NER's Chief Mechanical Engineer around in a single coach lol Tbh Whiff doesn't get enough love. He's one of the best characters introduced in the HiT Era imo :D
It’s very interesting on how Whif went from a merchandising character to being a fully fleshed out character. And that doesn’t happen a lot for most characters in the Hit Era (I know there is Rosie and maybe a few others but still)
I’ve always thought Whiff was a good character. He doesn’t let his occupation or what others think about him stop him from enjoying life. He just gets on with it and always tries to be polite. I also like his basis of the unique NER “Aerolite”. It’s one of York’s finest exhibits and I always like seeing it whenever I go, trying not to keep thinking only of Whiff when I see it.
Imagine if Whiff was built way stronger than Aerolite considering he was able to help Emily move the garbage trucks out of Spencer’s way though she somehow couldn’t on her own, and the fact he’s managed to pull long garbage trains afterwards in the CGI era (it would be like if there was some short/awkward nerdy guy at school who turned out to be super ripped though not a lot of people knew and he wouldn’t be the type to brag about his strength). We know he already showed up dirty and he got his name from being so, so he probably was built to work at some other garbage dump on The Mainland as some replica of Aerolite who his old builder probably took a liking to and after doing such filthy and smelly work the people there figured they’d call him Whiff after his bad smell. Heck it’s possible he wanted to feel some importance not just after what Spencer said but maybe because of how he heard his sibling Aerolite had the prestigious role of being the NER’s CME’s private engine. It’s also implied Scruff seems to have also been grimy already and has little experience being clean so he likely also worked at some other garbage dump on The Mainland.
Whiff is such a lovely Hit era character. While in the model series I personally didn't think much of him, he feels so right in the CGI series. Definitely wish he was given a brenner era main role. Also a comment on him as an inspection engine. This would actually be accurate Aerolite in real life! Aerolite was purpose built as an Inspectors saloon, pulling a single coach so directors/ the chief mechanical engineer could inspect and travel the line. Funny as it is kinda the opposite end of the spectrum to pulling rubbish trains. Maybe Whiff's knowledge of the railway through his island wide rubbish collection made the Fat Controller see him as the perfect guide when doing track and infrastructure inspections. So much more going on with Whiff then most people think.
Man. Am I the only one who would have loved an episode or a story about Whiff breaking his glasses and needing new ones? I want to see a story about him struggling to see without them and gets lost or even confuses cargo for trash.
TBH, All engines go really did some cool stuff, I've don't really understand the HATE of this spin-off show, I know it looks like Mattel is trying to appeal into a baby audience yet again, this show did some cool stuff, Salty's Sea Shanty is pretty decent, I'd really like it and the music is so catchy, For me I noticed that some characters are consistent to previous incarnations such as James, I remember that one epsiode where Percy crashed leaving his wheel being, badly beaten up and damaged, I don't remember rest of the epsiode, but I'd remember seeing james screaming when he was left to shunt some dirty trucks, That's incharacter for james. Ngl, I'm kinda excited for later seasons, I'd really wanna see if they are gonna bring back Bertie or maybe Duck? Who knows what awaits us in future.
The only reason I ever rewrote his debut episode was because the choice of class for him. Seeing a character designed off the saloon engine for the GER chairman work in the rubbish dump was fascinating and made it fun to develop his backstory. As he is in the show, I always loved him personality wise. Just a really pure, innocent little fella with no real malice against even those who made fun of him. It's also sweet that they attempted making him a history nerd and show some form of insecurities about his position in MIR and series 16 respectively. I guess I'm more biased towards the latter because I had the idea of his private engine past being a part of him in spite of his bullying at the time (SPOILERS, lol) but like all 'diamonds' in this era, when there's a good idea there's poor execution to knock it down. Anyway he was the one who brought some world building to MIR in the form of the rubbish in the tunnel. It kinda makes me concerned with the waste accumulated on Sodor to warrant him and Scruff working at a dump. Speaking of Scruff, I adore him as much as Whiff. Just a more reckless little engine than Whiff with a really charming little design in Musketeer and he's a lovable little box child for what little we had. Not every character has to be fully fleshed out but it's fun to see him go out of his comfort zone even for one episode only. Hell I had fun writing for him in the past four episodes of my series. With the rules of AEG's universe and how it was evident Mattel was desperate to go the route they did, they might as well have made him the somewhat nutty professor character. It works for his design and with how small the cast there is, he would further stand out. I haven't seen much of the series, let alone any with him in but clips of the animation for him is so good. Like the incredibly animated shows I've watched before with the ToonBoom methods like Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure and to a lesser extent MLP:FIM. His design in it kinda works for me, because imagining someone who spends all his time experimenting and gets as nutty as they are, I wouldn't picture them having a decent fashion sense. Overall god bless you for looking to this one minor character I loved for a long time.
To me, whiff is very nolagable about the place he lives, probably knowing alot of sudrian history, tho when when it comes down to it he finds it difficult to read people's emotions,
Whiff isn't my favorite character but he is certainly not the worst. I do believe he is one of the weaker of the hit era characters when there's so much more better ones in my opinion but I see where you're coming from about Whiff and I do appreciate him nonetheless. A great video Dennis and a perfect way to start off the year.
Great video, I'm glad more people agree AEG Whiff is amazing, but I'm a little confused about why the TVS section was split into HiT and CGI - since the Nitrogen era was made by the same team as the HiT era and a different one than the Brenner era team, wouldn't it make more sense to split the TVS section into HiT/Nitrogen and Brenner, or not to split it at all?
Hi! Thanks! I wanted to split it up since as stated in my video both Model HiT and Nitrogen's takes on the character were slightly different from each other. While one went for a geeky, oblivious take the other went for a more wiser, "down to earth" and knowledgable one. It also helped with organizing my views on the character as CGI had done a lot more development to Whiff compared to model (giving his own location, a new helper etc.)
I have a theory that Whiff's self-esteem is incredibly low and he takes every single cruel word or action to heart (I have a full takedown of Thomas and the Garbage Train and I am itching to say it), he's just so polite and humble that he'd never breathe a word of complaint. He'll take constant abuse from the other engines, but if Thomas had just told him how hurtful all of the comments he was getting for being the garbage train's back engine was, Whiff would personally lecture every engine who dared challenge Thomas. I mean, the guy even cheered for Thomas after being abandoned, hurt, and forced to work until he could barely move by the little blue bastard.
Whiff is a good character he's really useful but he is a bit stinky just like Scuff I honestly would like if sir topham hatt had wanted to get all the old engines Whiff will be apart of it do to the year his basis was built 1869 and just for the aeg Version of Whiff I honestly would like if kids of age 1 to 2 don't watch the aeg part of the video
5:43 I think what should have happened is that the trucks were being troublesome and were holding Emily back and then she would need Whiff too help control them
@@MatthewMiranda-l2t I wasn’t even saying that anyone was forcing me to watch it, I was only saying I agree with this person on that I don’t like AEG either
I can't believe I am making this comment but I am aware the Thomas Reboot is a very "controversial" topic when it doesn't need to be. You are more than welcomed to skip the AEG Whiff part if you dont wanna hear positive points about the reboot, nobody is stopping you just please keep your rude banters and comments out of this discussion, people who DONT do that end up looking like 5 year old children. Many thanks.
Also AEG fans when you have a slightly different opinion from them
It will forever be a spin off that a reboot, yes they can keep polishing that shit but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a shit.
@@Keaness shet is shet but it's even better when it's golden shet
Going to be honest, if AEG was billed as a spin-off rather than a reboot, there would be at least 75% less hate for it. For example, if AEG was treated like Sonic Boom (The cartoon at least, games are a different case) people wouldn't keep complaining so much of it "replacing" Thomas.
@popgoesadryn but in this case is not
That thumbnail is absolutely GOLD! Your channel is the definition of quality over quantity
If you say so
I like the idea that Misty Island was like an urban myth which was part of the culture of the industrial engines, explaining why Whiff and Salty are the ones who know about it.
I have weirdly always adored Whiff, ever since watching his introductory episode. It's just his design and everything. But I always felt that he and Emily had a deeper connection. (They both looked like the same shade of green to young me) so I always think they actually knew eachother beforhand.
Whiff is another favorite HiT era character of mine cause I like the idea of an engine wearing glasses, something that's unique to the show that was never implied to others.
And while I'm not a fan of the rubbish dump concept, I have to agree that it not only gave Whiff a purpose, but fleshed him more as a breakout character like Emily since they didn't do much with him near the end of the model series run.
In my headcanon Whiff was built by the Sodor and Mainland Railway in 1870 after the design of the real engine he later Sold to the North western railway In 1920 when it opened in my headcanon, he was Numbered 356, with it being one of the Pre-grouping Numbers of the Surviveng engines Pre-grouping engines, he is a maintenence utility engine who can help out if needed
Fun fact: Whiff's Name is Not only Changed to Whiffield but he still wears glasses
@@RicardoGaming09 That's a very interesting headcanon. That could also work for Whiff too.
In my headcanon whiff served in the war and was in an explosion that’s why he has his glasses and he’s the inspection engine and pulls workmen around the railway In a works unit coach
Wow. That's a great video on Whiff throughout the show's eras. He's a great character for me, even in CGI. If there's one thing the CGI writers should have done in the show like during the Brenner era is create a episode that features Whiff losing his glasses because it would be interesting to see what happens if he does like can't see well without them or something. I don't know, just a thought. What do you think?
Whiff is such a great engine. His first appearance was everything to me especially the chase scene
I only just realised this when you brought up the whole Whiff-Fat Controller pairing, but that pairing could be an in-joke to how Whiff's basis (NER No. 66 'Aerolite') was used to haul the NER's Chief Mechanical Engineer around in a single coach lol
Tbh Whiff doesn't get enough love. He's one of the best characters introduced in the HiT Era imo :D
Fantastic analysis, Whiff's always been a favorite of mine, glad he's still around in the show today- ^^
Dennis really is the type of guy to make a long ass analysis on Whiff
It’s very interesting on how Whif went from a merchandising character to being a fully fleshed out character. And that doesn’t happen a lot for most characters in the Hit Era (I know there is Rosie and maybe a few others but still)
I’ve always thought Whiff was a good character. He doesn’t let his occupation or what others think about him stop him from enjoying life. He just gets on with it and always tries to be polite.
I also like his basis of the unique NER “Aerolite”. It’s one of York’s finest exhibits and I always like seeing it whenever I go, trying not to keep thinking only of Whiff when I see it.
Tbh that's the same every time I go to York myvhead goes there's that Thomas charter
One reason BWBA was a mistake
It erased half the Sodor cast
“and where on earth of you to be?”
I knew a Whiff analysis was coming eventually
I think molly was laughing at emily as revenge for when she laughed at her for taking empty coal trucks back in season 9.
Oh nice headcanon! 😂
I ❤️ this character!!! You just made this Thomas fan *very* happy!!!
Whiff is a prime example of why I wish the HIT characters were used more outside of their introductory episodes
Me too. I wish the new characters in the HiT era had a better purpose than just being made to sell merchandise.
@@FerdinandProductions2021I mean Rosie appeared a lot
@FerdinandProductions2021 as do I, they should've been characters first merch second not the other way around
I agree, they should've been used more outside their debuts to flesh their characters and give focus on their traits.
Imagine if Whiff was built way stronger than Aerolite considering he was able to help Emily move the garbage trucks out of Spencer’s way though she somehow couldn’t on her own, and the fact he’s managed to pull long garbage trains afterwards in the CGI era (it would be like if there was some short/awkward nerdy guy at school who turned out to be super ripped though not a lot of people knew and he wouldn’t be the type to brag about his strength). We know he already showed up dirty and he got his name from being so, so he probably was built to work at some other garbage dump on The Mainland as some replica of Aerolite who his old builder probably took a liking to and after doing such filthy and smelly work the people there figured they’d call him Whiff after his bad smell. Heck it’s possible he wanted to feel some importance not just after what Spencer said but maybe because of how he heard his sibling Aerolite had the prestigious role of being the NER’s CME’s private engine. It’s also implied Scruff seems to have also been grimy already and has little experience being clean so he likely also worked at some other garbage dump on The Mainland.
This is an amazing video it reminds me of a Sodor's finest video and I hve to agree Whiff is a very enjoyable character
I’m excited for this video whiff is a character I don’t see a lot of people talk about so this should be interesting
Whiff is such a lovely Hit era character. While in the model series I personally didn't think much of him, he feels so right in the CGI series. Definitely wish he was given a brenner era main role. Also a comment on him as an inspection engine. This would actually be accurate Aerolite in real life! Aerolite was purpose built as an Inspectors saloon, pulling a single coach so directors/ the chief mechanical engineer could inspect and travel the line. Funny as it is kinda the opposite end of the spectrum to pulling rubbish trains. Maybe Whiff's knowledge of the railway through his island wide rubbish collection made the Fat Controller see him as the perfect guide when doing track and infrastructure inspections. So much more going on with Whiff then most people think.
Nice video, interesting to see a video on whiff
Man. Am I the only one who would have loved an episode or a story about Whiff breaking his glasses and needing new ones? I want to see a story about him struggling to see without them and gets lost or even confuses cargo for trash.
TBH, All engines go really did some cool stuff, I've don't really understand the HATE of this spin-off show, I know it looks like Mattel is trying to appeal into a baby audience yet again, this show did some cool stuff, Salty's Sea Shanty is pretty decent, I'd really like it and the music is so catchy, For me I noticed that some characters are consistent to previous incarnations such as James, I remember that one epsiode where Percy crashed leaving his wheel being, badly beaten up and damaged, I don't remember rest of the epsiode, but I'd remember seeing james screaming when he was left to shunt some dirty trucks, That's incharacter for james.
Ngl, I'm kinda excited for later seasons, I'd really wanna see if they are gonna bring back Bertie or maybe Duck?
Who knows what awaits us in future.
The only reason I ever rewrote his debut episode was because the choice of class for him. Seeing a character designed off the saloon engine for the GER chairman work in the rubbish dump was fascinating and made it fun to develop his backstory.
As he is in the show, I always loved him personality wise. Just a really pure, innocent little fella with no real malice against even those who made fun of him. It's also sweet that they attempted making him a history nerd and show some form of insecurities about his position in MIR and series 16 respectively. I guess I'm more biased towards the latter because I had the idea of his private engine past being a part of him in spite of his bullying at the time (SPOILERS, lol) but like all 'diamonds' in this era, when there's a good idea there's poor execution to knock it down.
Anyway he was the one who brought some world building to MIR in the form of the rubbish in the tunnel. It kinda makes me concerned with the waste accumulated on Sodor to warrant him and Scruff working at a dump.
Speaking of Scruff, I adore him as much as Whiff. Just a more reckless little engine than Whiff with a really charming little design in Musketeer and he's a lovable little box child for what little we had. Not every character has to be fully fleshed out but it's fun to see him go out of his comfort zone even for one episode only. Hell I had fun writing for him in the past four episodes of my series.
With the rules of AEG's universe and how it was evident Mattel was desperate to go the route they did, they might as well have made him the somewhat nutty professor character. It works for his design and with how small the cast there is, he would further stand out. I haven't seen much of the series, let alone any with him in but clips of the animation for him is so good. Like the incredibly animated shows I've watched before with the ToonBoom methods like Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure and to a lesser extent MLP:FIM.
His design in it kinda works for me, because imagining someone who spends all his time experimenting and gets as nutty as they are, I wouldn't picture them having a decent fashion sense.
Overall god bless you for looking to this one minor character I loved for a long time.
Whiff is the only likable character in Misty Island
Whiff seemed like an austisc adult that got his dream job
wildest comment yet 💀
@@asodorlife it makes sence though
18:54
"Whiff is the only engine on Sodor to have glasses."
The Sodor Railway Repair: Am I a joke to you?
the fact that I knew this joke was coming.
he is the only engine to wear glasses in THAT era. heck, actually in all three eras I've mentioned.
To me, whiff is very nolagable about the place he lives, probably knowing alot of sudrian history, tho when when it comes down to it he finds it difficult to read people's emotions,
Whiff reminds me of Walden from Wow Wow Wubbzy
Good video
Sodor's finest be like:
My boy Whiffy Woo Wallace is getting the spotlight he deserves! I can already tell this is gonna be a good video to kick off the new year!
I Love Whiff, he is a great character
Whiff is one of the characters of all time
Whiff isn't my favorite character but he is certainly not the worst. I do believe he is one of the weaker of the hit era characters when there's so much more better ones in my opinion but I see where you're coming from about Whiff and I do appreciate him nonetheless. A great video Dennis and a perfect way to start off the year.
Great video, I'm glad more people agree AEG Whiff is amazing, but I'm a little confused about why the TVS section was split into HiT and CGI - since the Nitrogen era was made by the same team as the HiT era and a different one than the Brenner era team, wouldn't it make more sense to split the TVS section into HiT/Nitrogen and Brenner, or not to split it at all?
Hi! Thanks!
I wanted to split it up since as stated in my video both Model HiT and Nitrogen's takes on the character were slightly different from each other. While one went for a geeky, oblivious take the other went for a more wiser, "down to earth" and knowledgable one. It also helped with organizing my views on the character as CGI had done a lot more development to Whiff compared to model (giving his own location, a new helper etc.)
I have a theory that Whiff's self-esteem is incredibly low and he takes every single cruel word or action to heart (I have a full takedown of Thomas and the Garbage Train and I am itching to say it), he's just so polite and humble that he'd never breathe a word of complaint. He'll take constant abuse from the other engines, but if Thomas had just told him how hurtful all of the comments he was getting for being the garbage train's back engine was, Whiff would personally lecture every engine who dared challenge Thomas. I mean, the guy even cheered for Thomas after being abandoned, hurt, and forced to work until he could barely move by the little blue bastard.
whiff feels like representation joke of 8-16- its rubbish but also fun and joyful
awesome job
*grabs wiff* ill take my sight disability train and leave
(Im allowed to say that i also cant see well)
King like Oliver and his friend if there form hit
What about nevle him and wife where always my favorites
Subscribed because Whiff
@asodor did you love thomas and friends?
Whiff is a good character he's really useful but he is a bit stinky just like Scuff I honestly would like if sir topham hatt had wanted to get all the old engines Whiff will be apart of it do to the year his basis was built 1869 and just for the aeg Version of Whiff I honestly would like if kids of age 1 to 2 don't watch the aeg part of the video
5:43 I think what should have happened is that the trucks were being troublesome and were holding Emily back and then she would need Whiff too help control them
whiffy woo
Whiffy wooo
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Bet not know all eres lol
‼️🚽Whiff is so Skibbidi Toilet🚽‼️
I still hate all engines go
das cool bro
not even 10 mins in being posted...
Yeah same
No one's forcing you to watch dude , yersh😒
@@MatthewMiranda-l2t I wasn’t even saying that anyone was forcing me to watch it, I was only saying I agree with this person on that I don’t like AEG either