Why Trade Is Not a Zero-Sum Game

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Trade brings many benefits, says Douglas Irwin of Dartmouth College; it lowers prices and increases variety, among other things. Irwin, who is also author of “Free Trade Under Fire” (2014, Princeton University Press), was interviewed at “Trade Issues Today,” a conference at Columbia University in September 2016. The conference was sponsored by the Chazen Institute for Global Business, the School of International and Public Affairs, the Center for Global Governance, and the Deepak and Neera Raj Center on India Economic Policies, Columbia University.

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  • @mayacho4910
    @mayacho4910 Год назад +108

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    • @theresagarcia1218
      @theresagarcia1218 Год назад

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    • @mayacho4910
      @mayacho4910 Год назад

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    • @mariahhayes5089
      @mariahhayes5089 Год назад

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    • @danielkey1463
      @danielkey1463 Год назад

      Stick with a good company by either not selling when it’s going lower and/or buying more at that time.

  • @salguod2118
    @salguod2118 8 лет назад +15

    On the average most agree with these statements but the problem arises at the individual level - the factory worker in Ohio gets fired and now earns nothing but the West Coast investor's stock goes up in price because the product is now being produced in some emerging market with cheaper labour and imported back into the US. The average of the two shows that "Americans" did better by this arrangement (and this is what Dr Irwin says) but at the individual level the impacts are dramatic. Since NAFTA, the midwest has been hollowed out and yet our stock markets have never been stronger and the ultra wealthy stock owners have never had it so good. The fired worker can not afford the cheaper imported good but the stock owner can afford two or three....

    • @MojoBonzo
      @MojoBonzo 5 лет назад +4

      @rocketdock11 but thats not true... a company doesnt sell products only in a country... microsoft wouldnt suffer if their american sales dropped... because china or india is on the rise and they can sell there... not to mention that most products are actually produced in areas where people cannot afford them...

    • @MojoBonzo
      @MojoBonzo 5 лет назад +2

      @rocketdock11 what you described though is a zero sum game, and the fired worker is still unemployed. at best he has to reeducate himself, or work for some menial job... in any case, he will spend money he probably doesnt have for education, or/and he will have less consuming power... meaning he wont be able to afford some stuff... not to mention that these kinds of circles tend to forget the consuming power in general... i mean sure you can keep producing stuff, but if the average pay check doesnt increase accordingly it means nothing, since most people wont be able to afford to buy said new stuff... the real problem with money getting in the hands of the few, is not the inequality or w/e... its that one person can only consume this much... you can be bill gates for all i care, you can live the dream or w/e, but still you can only consume "that" much... and its not like you can keep investing in the real economy... most of the people with the billions or hundreds of millions, invest in the market or w/e... that kind of money takes a lot of time to roll back to the real economy...

    • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
      @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 5 лет назад

      Sal Guod ain't capitalism a bitch. You've neglected to consider all the foreign workers the American worker caused to lose their jobs.

    • @stigcc
      @stigcc 2 года назад

      @@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 He acknowleged that trade was a net positive globally. But, for an individual or even a country, it might very well be a net negative.
      Imagine aliens from outer space outperforming humans in every aspect. How can trading with them be a positive for us?

    • @pr3historic647
      @pr3historic647 2 года назад

      It'd be cool if there was a system where workers had a stake in their workplace (there is, it's called a worker co-op and they should make up the majority of the economy)

  • @eXanova
    @eXanova 5 лет назад +9

    It is a zero sum game in terms of most measurable economic indicators...

    • @ljunderground
      @ljunderground 2 года назад +1

      You're missing the point. Would you be more or less productive if you had to do everything yourself?

  • @riz4141
    @riz4141 3 месяца назад

    its only zero sum game with the very people you trade with, but not with market overall

  • @lpc5152
    @lpc5152 3 года назад +1

    Imports affect local jobs

  • @keywinhomes8969
    @keywinhomes8969 2 года назад +2

    Trades can be more sustainable if displace workers can be retrained and support for displaced workers. So far "free trade" is costly to the lower middle class. The political situation is unfavorable and hostile to "free trade" for the sole benefit of the mercatile class. It have come to Jan 6 for people to understand how fragile the system is.

    • @miltonbates6425
      @miltonbates6425 Год назад

      Jan 6th was a nothingburger. What are you even talking about? The war in the Ukraine is more suggestive of how fragile the system is.

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend 6 лет назад +4

    There is a huge difference between trade and LIFE. It's true, "trade" by its very definition, is not zero sum. You can not exchange something if both parties don't have something to give. It's not trade we're talking about, ITS LIFE, ITS THE WORLD. It is matter itself, and matter, on this planet, is finite. This is especially true for species, and materials. Can everyone on earth have steak and lobster? Can everyone have hardwood floors and two story houses? Of course not. The world is zero sum, trade is exactly that. You can wipe all species out, and trade can still continue..

    • @staxstirner
      @staxstirner 5 лет назад +2

      You do know that scarcity is one of the tenants of a market economy right. You mentioned steaks and wood floors or some shit, but forgot to mention that not everyone values that. It's the reason we trade in the first place.

  • @Markus-Domanski
    @Markus-Domanski 5 лет назад +10

    They have to be thankful to Adam Smith for creating a myth that never seems to die. Trading apples for oranges means gaining oranges, but it also means losing apples. Yes, you didn't have the lovely oranges before, but now you have less delicious apples. While the apples may have less subjective value for you, they have lots of value for the person who gave the oranges to you. The best possible scenario is an even trade, where the apples are exactly worth the oranges.
    There are no win-win-situation in 2-player games, there never have been and there never will be, because in economy money is all what counts. Money is the measure of success, not happiness about oranges. You can't open a bank account and save your happiness for bad times and, even worse, you can't sell your happiness to someone either.
    Economy - like a balance sheet - is a zero-sum game. Since something can't be created out of nothing, some factor always has to give. Ideally both partners gain as much in return as they have given up, which we call a fair trade. Arguably the only additional benefit is happiness, but it doesn't show in a balance sheet, and it certainly doesn't matter tomorrow anymore.

    • @Markus-Domanski
      @Markus-Domanski 5 лет назад +1

      That's what they call "indifference" in economics. It doesn't matter what you do because it makes no difference in your balance sheet. You can make the trade if you want or leave it and hope for a better opportunity to screw someone.

    • @Markus-Domanski
      @Markus-Domanski 5 лет назад

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    • @Markus-Domanski
      @Markus-Domanski 5 лет назад

      Couldn't have said it any better.

    • @TheXComputerXDr
      @TheXComputerXDr 5 лет назад

      @rocketdock11 The emotion is the only thing that is real my friend.

    • @TheXComputerXDr
      @TheXComputerXDr 5 лет назад

      @rocketdock11 lol life must be miserable when your not numb...

  • @impactodelsurenterprise2440
    @impactodelsurenterprise2440 5 лет назад +2

    Just like the stock market it is a positive sum game, but it tries to act like a zero sum game.

    • @tyfinancial
      @tyfinancial 3 года назад +2

      Stock market can become negative sum game. If the company buyback stock below ipo price. Then its negative sum game 😅😅

  • @DevMakharia25
    @DevMakharia25 3 года назад +5

    Adam Smith was such a clown