Thanks for the shout out Gill. I’m truly humbled by the support. Bigups to you mate. I was getting ready to do a spotlight on the True Parrots, but the female got some torn fins from fighting 😩
Lol... You best listen to Colin.. And you have your labor force working hard on it .. Good info.. Never tried that stuff.. Love the planted tank btw Will go check out your friend.. I already follow Colin..
I had biohome in a sump with no result. I have another reactor like this one with biohome in it. Should be interesting to see how it goes with a slower flow.
Looking at the water samples at 2:50 I would say there is a very small change. That could just be because I want it to be true as I'm about to use de nitrate on my 140 gallon tank, but with twice the recommended amount to see if it does a better job at all. Looking forward to more updates from you and Colin.
They were the same, one was closer to the window so it looked a fraction lighter on camera. I had someone comment on my original denitrate video that they had success.
Interesting test. I don't think that there are any quick "silver bullets" in regards to actually lowering Nitrate levels. I will be interested in seeing the final results. There appears to be some good results in using a C3 resin but I can't find it here in Australia. I also use Kitty Litter in my overstocked Cichlid tanks as a substrate and BCBs (with foam pre-filters) in the cylinder filters.
Hello Gil... thanks for the video...is there a further update on this experiment? Did it eventually settle down after say 6months and give any better result?
I think from memory that you already have. When I made the water changer video with the kids, Colin bought one and put up that post. I found it so funny that I try to work it in to as many videos as I can.
G'day Kelsey, the idea behind a wet/dry filter is to have highly oxygenated water for the surface aerobic bacteria to covert ammonia to nitrite then nitrate. Porous media like denitrate rely on a low oxygen zone inside the media for anoxic bacteria to establish. While researching this product, I read that some reef tanks have had success with this in a wet/dry, but most recommend a slow moving reactor like mine to reduce the available oxygen. Hope this helps mate.
Dear Gil: Most of the products, on offer, at the pet store, in the fish section, fall under the following categories: completely useless; optional; or, necessary, but over-priced. I do hate it that pet stores cheat the novice, to maximize profits. I tend to think that running their businesses, honestly, would be more profitable, in the long run. But, they do stock wonderful flora and fauna, so I visit them, often. Thank you for testing this, apparently useless product and sharing the results, on RUclips. All my best, Sincerely, E. J. Brinegar
G'day E.J, I'm not saying that this product is useless, only that it isn't some miracle cure for nitrates. I'm not expecting results for at least another month at the earliest. Colin and I will keep at it and see how it goes.
I don't see this in any of my local pet stores. So, I did what any good Sherlock at Home would do. I googled over to Seachem to see if it's just Matrix renamed for other countries. No it's not the same and recommends Matrix if the low flow can't be achieved. Next thing I looked for was if it gets exhausted and needs replacement, again NO. So now my gears are spinning on how this would work in a plenum. This seems to be the ideal conditions for this product to create Anoxic de-nitrification. Matrix can do the same thing but I'm thinking it's on a slower or smaller scale due to flow rates and oxygen levels in the water. My logic is that the oxygen is already low enough under the plenum to accelerate the process further. Sounds like a situation for some good results. I also wonder if you placed this product into a BCB as the core what kind of results would occur. If it works in BCBs maybe kitty litter could be swapped out for something like regular gravel to extend the lifespan of the BCB needing to be serviced. I don't think kitty litter will hold up indefinitely and will need to be changed out at some point. It would also be Ph neutral, so you don't have Ph change some people experience with Kitty litter.
Denitrate is a finer grade of pumice than Matrix. With a bcb, water flows around the basket and the negatively charged clay attracts the positively charged ammonia. Porous media like denitrate, matrix and the like require the water to pass through, so it wouldn't work in a bcb. Each individual piece of Denitrate or Matrix is supposed to house aerobic bacteria on the outside which converts ammonia to nitrite, then nitrite to nitrate taking oxygen from the water column. Once the oxygen depleted water reaches the interior pores deep inside the media, denitrifying bacteria obtains its oxygen from the nitrate molecules. This turns No3 (nitrate) into N (nitrogen). I think the fine pores will eventually clog up and need to be cleaned, whereas the clay basket should be good for years (fingers crossed). You are correct that there is very low oxygen underneath a plenum, therefore any cheaper media should be able to house denitrifying bacteria. You raise some interesting thoughts Scott, and I hope my answers make sense.
Thanks for the shout out Gill. I’m truly humbled by the support. Bigups to you mate. I was getting ready to do a spotlight on the True Parrots, but the female got some torn fins from fighting 😩
No worries Ras, I just want my viewers to be entertained. 😁
Lol...
You best listen to Colin..
And you have your labor force working hard on it ..
Good info.. Never tried that stuff.. Love the planted tank btw
Will go check out your friend.. I already follow Colin..
Thanks Chris. When Colin says jump, you don't have time to ask "how high". You just jump.
Interesting experiment, love the lab coat and safety goggles! 😂👍
Thanks Tara. We like to keep things very professional here.
Interesting experiment, looking forward to seeing the results!
Thanks. Hopefully we will have something to report soon.
Good video. I'm looking forward to seeing the results. Have you tested biohome? Any results with that?
I had biohome in a sump with no result. I have another reactor like this one with biohome in it. Should be interesting to see how it goes with a slower flow.
The best technician a trip to McDonalds could buy 😂
Nothing less will do!
Thank you for the advice. Really appreciated.
Thanks mate. 😀
Looking at the water samples at 2:50 I would say there is a very small change. That could just be because I want it to be true as I'm about to use de nitrate on my 140 gallon tank, but with twice the recommended amount to see if it does a better job at all. Looking forward to more updates from you and Colin.
They were the same, one was closer to the window so it looked a fraction lighter on camera. I had someone comment on my original denitrate video that they had success.
Very hard to see the future is young padawan, but a white labcoat and syringe is essential to learn the ways of the force :)
Interesting test. I don't think that there are any quick "silver bullets" in regards to actually lowering Nitrate levels. I will be interested in seeing the final results. There appears to be some good results in using a C3 resin but I can't find it here in Australia. I also use Kitty Litter in my overstocked Cichlid tanks as a substrate and BCBs (with foam pre-filters) in the cylinder filters.
I reckon that you are correct Tom, I think that it's all about the low oxygen, anoxic environment.
It all takes time. Nothing with nature happens quickly in aquariums, and there are a lot of sucker products out there.
Yeah, time is the key.
Hello Gil... thanks for the video...is there a further update on this experiment? Did it eventually settle down after say 6months and give any better result?
G'day, I just tested it and there is still no change.
Haha brilliant great video
Thanks mate. 😁
😂😂😂😂 The best trip to MacDonalds can buy.!!!
Unfortunately, every time the price of MacDonalds goes up, my team get a pay rise!
So it only denitrates if nitrates are already low???
That's what the bottle says, although I had someone comment on the first video that on their tank it had reduced nitrates from 80 down to 10ppm.
It would be interesting to do the same test using kitty litter in the reactor and see if you get the same or similar results.
I have one running with biohome, and another with gravel and a little flourite. A kitty litter reactor would be interesting.
I tried biohome for 6 months. No change to Nitrate levels, just a big hole in my debit card.
Biohome is all hype scrubbies are better and much cheaper.@@tomcrossan8263
Would love to see your water change system ❤️🇦🇺
I think from memory that you already have. When I made the water changer video with the kids, Colin bought one and put up that post. I found it so funny that I try to work it in to as many videos as I can.
@@Gilsfishroom I have a terrible memory! I’ll go try find it 🤯
It can be used with Ampularias and shrimps in the aquarium?
It sure can be. It is inert and won't affect your water parameters.
Can you use it in a wet/dry sump?
G'day Kelsey, the idea behind a wet/dry filter is to have highly oxygenated water for the surface aerobic bacteria to covert ammonia to nitrite then nitrate. Porous media like denitrate rely on a low oxygen zone inside the media for anoxic bacteria to establish. While researching this product, I read that some reef tanks have had success with this in a wet/dry, but most recommend a slow moving reactor like mine to reduce the available oxygen. Hope this helps mate.
Dear Gil:
Most of the products, on offer, at the pet store, in the fish section, fall under the following categories:
completely useless;
optional; or,
necessary, but over-priced.
I do hate it that pet stores cheat the novice, to maximize profits. I tend to think that running their businesses, honestly, would be more profitable, in the long run. But, they do stock wonderful flora and fauna, so I visit them, often.
Thank you for testing this, apparently useless product and sharing the results, on RUclips.
All my best,
Sincerely,
E. J. Brinegar
G'day E.J, I'm not saying that this product is useless, only that it isn't some miracle cure for nitrates. I'm not expecting results for at least another month at the earliest. Colin and I will keep at it and see how it goes.
@@Gilsfishroom I will be watching for the results gil I trust your testing above the rest brother🙂👍🏻
Thanks Jeff, hopefully I will have more to report next time.
I don't see this in any of my local pet stores. So, I did what any good Sherlock at Home would do. I googled over to Seachem to see if it's just Matrix renamed for other countries. No it's not the same and recommends Matrix if the low flow can't be achieved. Next thing I looked for was if it gets exhausted and needs replacement, again NO. So now my gears are spinning on how this would work in a plenum. This seems to be the ideal conditions for this product to create Anoxic de-nitrification. Matrix can do the same thing but I'm thinking it's on a slower or smaller scale due to flow rates and oxygen levels in the water.
My logic is that the oxygen is already low enough under the plenum to accelerate the process further. Sounds like a situation for some good results. I also wonder if you placed this product into a BCB as the core what kind of results would occur. If it works in BCBs maybe kitty litter could be swapped out for something like regular gravel to extend the lifespan of the BCB needing to be serviced. I don't think kitty litter will hold up indefinitely and will need to be changed out at some point. It would also be Ph neutral, so you don't have Ph change some people experience with Kitty litter.
Denitrate is a finer grade of pumice than Matrix. With a bcb, water flows around the basket and the negatively charged clay attracts the positively charged ammonia. Porous media like denitrate, matrix and the like require the water to pass through, so it wouldn't work in a bcb. Each individual piece of Denitrate or Matrix is supposed to house aerobic bacteria on the outside which converts ammonia to nitrite, then nitrite to nitrate taking oxygen from the water column. Once the oxygen depleted water reaches the interior pores deep inside the media, denitrifying bacteria obtains its oxygen from the nitrate molecules. This turns No3 (nitrate) into N (nitrogen). I think the fine pores will eventually clog up and need to be cleaned, whereas the clay basket should be good for years (fingers crossed). You are correct that there is very low oxygen underneath a plenum, therefore any cheaper media should be able to house denitrifying bacteria.
You raise some interesting thoughts Scott, and I hope my answers make sense.
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Thanks mate.
It works but it's too overrated in my opinion.
I went in with an open mind, but we will give it some more time.
@@Gilsfishroom ok