On the road with police responding to rising mental health callouts - BBC Newsnight
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2023
- When someone's having a mental health crisis, what should they do? Who do they call? Increasingly it's the police and a Newsnight investigation reveals there's been a massive rise in mental health call-outs by people who’ve rung the police across the UK.
In Merseyside, mental-health related incidents have gone up 313% in 5 years.
Some police chiefs think it's down to lack of mental health services in the community and officers increasingly being seen as the first resort for people in a crisis.
Newsnight’s Sima Kotecha goes out with Merseyside Police and a mental health nurse to attend to a call. This report contains suicidal references.
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Poor man. I hope he can get the right help and pull through this. Thank you for serving our country ❤❤❤❤❤
Hope is not a plan
The police have no business dealing with people suffering with "mental illness" who are people that actually need empathic care, and understanding in order to heal. This is sick.
I agree. The officer did not seem very keen about the MH nurse. He should have been asking questions or at least pretended to be interested
Pain is inevitable but suffering is optional
Poor guy. I hope he gets the help he needs
Is no help. From experience
Hope is not a plan
This is heartbreaking. UK u should be ashamed...a veteran suffering like this is a 3rd World country system u have. 👎
This isn’t a surprise at the age of 19 I met an army server, finished hes course of duty, no after care for he’s mental health and was left homeless on the streets. Our governments in cause these issues by there own actions. It’s not just about services working smarter it’s about getting rid of the dead weight so the services can function as they need to be. Plenty of times I’ve taken people to a&e and rang police for people who’ve overdosed or people who’ve tried to kill another person, they all get the same treatment minus those who hurt others go to court, they all get a leaflet about there local mental health and sent on there way. Our systems aren’t doing there job no wonder the issue is worstenknf
If people care about the homeless so much they can open their home to them
@@firstlast8258 not always feasible or safe I’ve met a lot of homeless that are regular drug users, thief’s, pyromaniacs and so on, plenty have one bedroom bedsits or flats, are under council/private tendencies that means they can’t just let others stay over even for a night. That sort of comment shows a lot of ignorance. If you actually bothered to read my comment as a whole you’d of seen it’s clearly about our health system in pointing out and not about homelessness, homelessness is a symptom not the problem.
@@Boo-pv4hn 🤓
He needs a purpose in life , he needs others to help him find that purpose as he can't find it himself, don't see other ways of solving, and not be suicidal ....
agreed. support animals are something that can help tremendously, i wouldnt be here if wasn't for my cat, some how he knew, and has not left my side since.
At least he has a roof over his head he needs to be more grateful for what he has
@@firstlast8258 it doesn't work like that
@@thunor3656 🤓🖕
I'm 15 and I tried to end it with a blade around 2 weeks ago. Parents called CAMHS and the bloody police turned up - useless! Hope this poor man makes it through.
suicide has risen 35% in the past 2 years for young adults, have been batting this for past 15 years. feel the same as this guy, and the help given was pills that made my situation worse.
mind charity can help
Hope is not a plan
Are you alright now ?
Fantastic work by the BBC to highlight the problem - more attention needs to be brought to the issue. However, I do not agree that vulnerable people can give permission to be filmed under these circumstances. This is someone in a mental health crisis - they are not capable of providing informed consent. Please consider this next time you film people in similar circumstances.
100% agree, it's now on the Internet for all to see... 😞 Not good.
it is so despicable how they even asked the poor guy, the reporter should be ashamed
As a forensic psych nurse, I see your point. However if someone is deemed to have capacity and are not incapable of giving informed consent then they are able to make those decisions. That said, I do believe a more thorough risk assessment and safeguarding concerns needed to be undertaken and all the facts surrounding the individuals history and current situation being taken into consideration to give informed consent rather than a none MH trained reporter asking someone at the moment of being in crisis whether they were okay with it or not. And that the individual should have been visited after filming and had a chance to watch the footage before it was aired
Where are the GPs? The police aren’t social or health workers.
I’m glad they’ve added to the story people who’ve been subject to police mistreatment due to mental health it happens a lot. They take no care of what there doing around those who are vunrable and take advantage of the situation
That's what happens when they go to the middle East to fight for Israel.
I care Paul. And so do others. ❤️❤️
There's no way this will backfire and end up looking like the GDR
This is a result of political choices. Not people fleeing their own terrible life situations from other countries. Money is wasted on ridiculous things & this isn't one of them
Money is at the job if you are able bodied
@@firstlast8258 Refugees seeking asylum want to work! They want to earn more than £8.24 a week. But the government force them to stay in shared rooms and collect a handful of coins a week.
@@vexwebster5197 then go back to your home country if it is so much better
Please now do an expose on the fact when complaints are raised they are fobbed of as no wrong doing protect there own not the public
Could a medical mental worker with trained security go with them?
That's inbetween harassing women for silently praying to themselves in public
get rid of private mental health services n invest in nhs places that will hold onto n train staff. it's a bloody roundabout atm n makes things worse,
Real reason for the mental health act....
I have a host of mental illnesses. Involuntary treatment is morally right in many cases. If you would help a dog in the condition of the person, the person probably isn't well enough to make a rational choice about treatment.
The numbers don’t lie but liars use numbers
He's ok,just lonely
No one cares. From personal experience
agreed.
Unless it’s voting time
The public nowadays don't care if people are suffering with mental health they rather grill them all the time like when they listen to people like piers Morgan nigel farage and the tories ect
Internet killed Britain
empathy is dead
Pain is inevitable but suffering is optional
@@p5rsona too much empathy and your brain falls out
I agree the police should only get involved if the mentally Disturbed person is being violent or has attacked someone. The police are not baby sitters for the mentally ill. I think laws need to be put in place where the parents of the mentally disturbed either need to take responsibility for the care and up keep of their grown adult who has a Psychosis. A lot of parents and family members just abandon them which is an atrocious crime in my opinion. Ok they say that the son or daughter is encroaching on their life and their own mental health, I do understand that, however to just walk away and act like that son or daughter Doesn’t exist any more and they can just blatantly carry on with life as if these children never existed this should be a crime in my book. Ok so they are that mentally draining on the family then you need to take responsibility and get them into a good facility and if you are a good person and the family are good people than you can all put a little money toward he’s or hers accommodation in one of these facilities and visit these poor family members in these facilities to make sure they have everything they need . I don’t like family members who discard their own flesh and blood. So yes it’s not the job of law enforcement to do the job that deadbeat families should be responsible for. Shame on you families for shirking on to the police something that is your responsibility. 👎
You're seriously suggesting that parents of people suffering from mental health issues that abandon them would suddenly change their ways and start treating their kids well, what, because the POLICE FORCES THEM TO BE TOGETHER?
If they abandon their kids no amount of external pressure will make them suddenly become loving parents. They should have never had kids in the first place.
Hundreds of communal living centers with live-in psychiatrists, pharmacies, therapists, life coaches and job support workers needs to be built as soon as possible if you want to actually address this problem.
shame on YOU for your utter lack of understanding and empathy! the system which has caused these people to seek suicide is NOT willing to help them in the least. what kind of depraved logic do you use to conclude parents need to come to the rescue instead of the government that is happy to waste away our billions for their own greedy benefit?? these are grown people you nincompoop, not toddlers and most dont HAVE anyone in their life... you are proof intelligence is not a requirement to live in this world
Takes a deadbeat to know a deadbeat
I wonder if the decline of mental health in the UK correlates with the decline of access and funding of NHS services, the decline of living standards in the UK and the increase of people struggling with money problems as provisions and services are being stripped away systematically from the most in need.
Probably nothing. I'm thick so I'll probably vote the Tories in again. I'm sure they won't screw things up any worse this time around.
And the rest.
Fascism.
@@StratsRUs 🤡
"surely" that wouldnt be a connection.
Money is at the job if you are able bodied
@@firstlast8258 Nice to see a fellow thicko x
bbc, why there at centre (where bbc originated) people not watching bbc?
Who knew it was this easy and no gun was needed at all or even near the cops
This can all be easily solved. That guy has been probably sitting in his place for 90% of his time. If instead he was asked to volunteer part of his day couple hours every single day I bet you he would feel better about himself the calls would go down and he’ll be helping the community.
This can be done in stages where somebody chills with him for the first month that he is doing volunteer work whatever that may be. But that boy needs to get out of the house
Joining the military in any form has to be one of the worst decisions you can make in life. Poor guy.
No, it is not. Mental Health knows no singular career, ethnicity, or economic status.
@@captainbilly9443 correct, but there are many cases of severe mental health issues associated with the military. can't say going to war would do anyone any good unless your in a position where conflict does not affect you or you are not affected by conflict.
A sucker is born every day
@@edjjit Of course war has an effect on one's psyche, and it has for as long as homo sapiens have killed each other. However, as long as there remains evil people doing evil against others, there must be those who defend the rest. Some sit on their poltroonish asses and dither, while others find the courage to face the enemy. There is no Utopia, and those who cannot see that are doomed to be oppressed and dominated by conquerors with bad intent.
@@captainbilly9443 agreed, i just wish we didn't need to kill each other, personally don't have anything against other people. that being said, if the amount of money spent weapons over my exitance was spent actually helping people not blowing each other up or shooting each other in the name of peace we could be in a very different place. not to say that there wouldn't be evil people, but at least it would be different for sure. utopia, is not here, yes, reason being the wealth have the control if that was spread out evenly think everyone would be much more happy, most people don't want much just to get along and have some comforts at the base level, but due to the influences of our world being fiilms and tv and now social media everyone wants $1M house and a Ferrari and to look like the are fresh out of a photo shoot. this is unrealistic. i just hope for change, which is also unrealistic due to the amount of abundant influence coercing the public.
Cancel-"Culture", first in the social media then in the streets... (0:57) Police can detain someone, who was thought to be mentally vulnerable.
What do you think about the Corona virus ? - Wrong. - That's why I kicked some rubbish in your front-yard. - So let's go to jail !
When no friends are left ... call 999...
Pigs 🐷
@@firstlast8258 You might be interested in my playlist collection "(German) aSSo channels" ...
Wow a story that involves Britain......is it a holiday?
Do you know how loudly i spk to myself in public
.tre is no help but its impossible im not spking to myself if you see me outside..because of my 4 second rule
Oh
The whole scheme is wrong,
alot of these problems are due to accessibility issues to further develop as a person/individual, especially if you're lacking knowledge, contemporaries etc who can help guide the way , some people have it some don't, some manage to do it on their own some don't
Its the don'ts we are supposed to help , many variables as to why their life thus far hasn't progressed or they feel worthless or depressed because of sitting and doing nothing, allowing the mind to fester depressive thoughts instead of encouraging creativity, self learning, self growth
I believe free education on every level of any age whether unemployed or working , through tax , and for life , would serve, and allow quick transition into learning and gaining skills not only for the work force but for the individual in terms of self progression,
Speak for yourself
@@firstlast8258
If oi suffered from narcissism den oi wud most certainly be in totality speakin' for meself but oi wus merely addin' a way ter fix waaat is an' yer man as been for many decades wud yer not agree dear 😏 ( Irish accent )
That police van driver really wasn’t engaged in the conversation was he.
He looks like he might need some help himself.
Duh. It's not his job. He's not competent to deal with that.
@@snsn7251 you open with “Duh”, and expect me to care what else you think?
No.
@@snsn7251 he was being involved in a conversation, and totally blanked it.
Do you want cops like that on your streets?
My dad was a long service cop, he spoke when he was spoken to. He tried to be useful.
It was his job. 🤷♂️
You defending his awkward silence speaks a lot more more about you than him mate.
@@snsn7251 and considering the other comments that I’ve made on this post, the fact that you decided to only respond to this one in the way that you did makes me think you don’t really give a shit anyway, you just wanted to make yourself feel better than a total stranger.
Well, you’re busted.
mind charity.
Mass psychosis. This does not happen to people by accident.
Due to lack of Darwinian selection pressures since industrialisation each generation is going to be unhealthier than the last until there is a genomic meltdown.
Lol bro eugenics is bad 🤡🤡
@@remmujone Evolution is value neutral.
@@iippo06 it was sarcasm bro
Too late for that
Yes indeed. Don’t forget that child mortality rates 100 years ago was 50% but now it is 1%. This in turn allows mutations of children to slip through. Don’t forget that the mind is 80% of the genome so if the child has any sort of physical mutation, you can sure as damn bet they have a mutation of the mind (eg depression or anxiety disorders)
mind charity not poolice
Normally I spend my time attacking Russia`s lack of freedom of speech, but here I am pointing out the farcical BIAS of the BBC. On this BBC youtube channel, there are NO videos about the BBC suspending a SPORTS presenter for comments about a HUMANITARIAN issue ! NOT ONE !! What does that say about WHAT news your ALLOWED to think about !!!
Muh freedumbs 🤪
The BMJ reports that the current Middle class /Twitterati angst with mental health is a load of cobblers and thats from the experts
Would you mind explaining please? Not sure what you mean but interested to hear more.
@@avarose__ British Medical Journal report published on Wednesday says it vastly exaggerated
This country kaput long time Tories and labour brutal wrecked country shocking ongoing
go to a gay area count or tally men being mentaly health their you count on tally of what are saying exactly ?
It’s all very well having Tory government still insist on business is looking after the country, but businesses don’t look after the people that cannot work for them, and with 20% of the country, suffering physical illness, and at least one in for suffering mental health issues, we need a government that looked after everybody.
Because anybody can get ill or into an accident at any stage of their life, and if we leave these people disenfranchised and out in the cold there going to be bigger problems.
We need a general election now.
I’m watching my country crumble and this is not what I was promised growing up!
You should see ghe paramedics I used to work with! Just wasting time chatting and flirting while the guy is dying! they make fun of patients its nuts! I dont even know if they deserve this job🤷♂️
NO ONE CARES ☹🥺😭😡😤
agreed.
Unless it’s voting time
Not necessarily. We dont see the full picture. He needs to also find something to improve his health. These days you cant depend on the government otherwise you will be done for.
@@snsn7251 agreed, but when you are in such a hole its very difficult to get out of. even trying to get out of bed in the morning, making food, socializing, it all becomes irrelevant, trying to pick yourself up after the shi* has hit the fan is very hard. options have narrowed for opportunity, what is expected of people has increased and pay is the same, if people were worth more this may have a huge positive impact. how people are treated these days it is not helping. suicide has risen 35% in the past 2 years and is still rising.
mentalists