Did Christians steal Christmas Day from pagans?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- A lot of people think so... But is it true? A look at the REAL origins of Christmas Day, and the story behind the 25th of December
LINKS:
Article "The Myth of Pagan Christmas" by Tom Holland (the historian, not the Spider-man): unherd.com/2021/12/the-myth-o...
Article "Christmas is not pagan, just stop" by Fr Andrew Damick: blogs.ancientfaith.com/asd/20...
A video from Bible Illustrated about Christmas Presents: • Christmas Gifts (Kids ...
Another one from @BibleIllustrated about Orthodox Christmas: • Christmas in the Ortho...
A video from Ben at Theoria about 'Christmas Culture and the Nativity': • Christmas Culture and ...
Steve from Be the Bee talks about gift giving: • Be the Bee #13 | Chris...
Jonathan Pageau talks about the Christmas troparion: • How Christmas Reorgani...
Jonathan again on 'the misguided rise of paganism' and what it says about how people are missing traditional, symbolic, Christianity with a cosmic vision: • The Misguided Rise of ...
@JonathanPageau and Fr Andrew Damick about pagan practices in Christianity: • Redeeming Pagan Symbol...
An episode of the 'Classical Stuff You Should Know' podcast on 'A Defense of Christmas' that is an excellent discussion: www.classicalstuff.net/episod...
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As a historian, thank you! You explained it in a simple yet perfect manner which isn't too complicated.
Similar to Sol Invictus, Hanukkah did not once have the primacy it now has in Rabbinic Jewish rituals it was elevated to this place in the 1800s as a Jewish alternative to Christmas by Jews living in North America.
I have to explain Xmas every year 🙄🙄🙄
Thank you for sharing the fullness of Orthodox Christian Anthropolgy.
Thank you so much! I am a baby Christian and have been really torn up about celebrating Christmas, (which has been my favorite time of year all 60+ years of my life). I can't wait to watch your other videos. God bless you. 🙏🙂
I continue to enjoy and appreciate you all's work, my brothers.
The music, the Christmas logo & all of this incredible information … amazing! One of my favourite videos!
Thank you for explaining it so eloquently and elegantly.
Marvelous work!! Not just well said, but well said in style!!
Good video ☦
Loving this series brother! It’s bringing a whole new level to my Christmas celebration. How can I learn more about the fasts and advents?
So glad to hear! And we do have some extra links in the description of our last video, "The Christmas Season" which is itself about advent. But best way: if you can get to an Orthodox Sunday liturgy and have a chat with the priest and people afterwards!
He just gave you an excellent answer: go to an Orthodox church and talk to a priest and the people..☦💝☦
Oops, i just saw you left this question a year ago...but i still hope you have done what he suggested..🎄🎄
I have also heard that the date of Christmas can be found through some calculations based on the birth of John the Baptist.
Well, Zacharias was from the division of Abijah, that served in the temple in the 8th week from Passover (June/July) and also six months later (December/January). Assuming Elizabeth became pregnant soon after Zacharias returned home, John the Forerunner was born in February-April or in August-October. And Jesus was born six months after that... Meaning that Jesus was born either close to Passover or close to Yom Kippur or the Feast of Tabernacles, or even possibly on the first day of the year (1st September)
This is my understanding. Christ would have been born in September. However I can accept that they chose December 25th as the day to remember his birth 9 months from Pascua. But not that he was actually born on the 25th. Because ultimately it's the remembering and coming together as a whole that is most important.
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
Thank you so much for the informative video. Every single year it seems like atheist and some Christian groups always feel the need to bring this up. its sad.
NO!
Great video like always, keep spreading the truth.
On the early Julian Calendar Saturnia was on December 25, but the Calendar change moved it there
Thank you. This is absolutely awesome!
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
Lovely video, however regard Winter Solstice from my research it was celebrated by many different cultures. The countries that celebrated it in the southern hemisphere it would land in June where the earths pole reaches its maximum tilt away from the sun.
In northern hemisphere’s like Egypt this happened in December
Glory to God!
I love this channel so much
Great explanation!
One minor point, Pope Gregory revised the calendar in 1582, when there was only 10 days difference. There are currently 13 days difference between the Gregorian and Julian calendars which will become 14 days in 2100, and "Russian Christmas" will slide to 8 January.
English is my second language so I dont understand completely. Can you explain what do you mean when you sad that Jesus died on the 25th of march then its apropriate to think that he came to earth on the same date? Do we now by something in the Bible that came to earth on that date? Thank you.
The reason for celebrating the sun at the winter solstice is due to the sun returning back to earth. With that brings spring and life.
Exactly😊💯
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The only problem with trying to base the choice of 25 December on the feast of the Annunciation on 25 March is that the celebration of Christmas on 25 December predates the feast of the Annunciation ,the first evidence of which appears in the 6th century, whereas the celebration of Christmas on 25 December dates to the 4th. The date of the Annunciation was more likely based on the date of Christmas.
Still wouldn't be an issue as the Tradition is that people were conceived close to when they died.
Taylor Marshall has a more complete explanation of how it can be derived from the Bible.
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well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.