The NEW Lumix 28-200 - All You Could Ever Need?
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
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I hope you guys can tell that I'm truly excited about this lens, and I can see it being glued to many cameras because of its insane versatility. If there's anything I didn't cover, please feel free to ask away!
Josh, is it parafocal?
Is it weather sealed; how much does it weigh compared to the 24-105 F4
Ty for showing the minimum dist at 200mm. Other reviews didn’t show it.
Great video! A comparison with the LUMIX S 24-105 F4 would be awesome 🤩
The 24-105 is probably going to be better in almost every way except weight and size. The 24-105 is built to the standard of the higher end panasonic S lenses, has a constant aperture, and OIS. The 28-200 is like the 20-60 where it's a good enough, light, and relatively cheap lens.
I can really feel your excitement Josh!
Hi Richard thank you and Josh for covering L mount lenses. Even though I have an s5ii I personally just adapt ef lenses since it's way cheaper 😸
@@boredcat7 thank you! Glad you enjoy our videos :) but you really need to give the native l mount lens a try!!
Ah man I'm hyped about this one! I love the direction Lumix decided to go in, and I can see this being a favourite for many :) Loved your take on the 28-200 as well 😁
@@TheRealRichardWong I bought the twin lens kit from Japan so I have the 20-60 and 50 1.8, but my most used focal length is the 85 and I’m getting good results with the canon one, I also adapted the crop sigma 30mm 1.4 art and pretty much have full frame coverage with just slight vignetting
Great review Josh! The photos and video footage from this lens look superb.
Love to see an aggressively unique design here.
Lumix are prioritising size and portability, and I think its's a refreshing stance to have. Bringing a camera with you everywhere can sometimes be a bit cumbersome, but pairing this with the S5II makes an extremely capable package that won't break your back!
Everything I wanted to know. Top flight review. Thanks!
As a travel vlogger, for travelling this is perfect! awesome review Josh - M
I also had a chance to use it and was nervous about the aperture range but MAN! This lens is so much more then the aperture makes you think. It’s hella fun to use and the aperture never got in the way. I think your review is spot on bro. Thanks for making this 🙌🏼
If we were working with a crop sensor then it may have been a bit of an issue, but since it's full frame, includes O.I.S and of course, amazing dual native ISO for video shooters, it genuinely hits the mark on so many levels! I'm legit super excited about this lens! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it dude :)
That's a crazy range that thing covers 🤯
Love the versatility. I’ve usually got the Sigma 28-70 f/2.8 parked on my S5ii but this focal range plus reduced size…perfect for throwing it in a bag and taking on vacations.
Nice review, Josh. It’s great to see your genuine excitement about this lens.
Thank you! 🙏
Such a FUN lens to use! Might glue it to my camera for a bit. 🎥🔥
I’m going to pick one of these up for skate photography. Hard to beat the size. Perfect for my bag.
Thx! Not expected this kind lense! Very very interesting! 🧐
Dropping that exclusiveeee🎉
Disappointed with the 7.1 aperture would like it if they made it slightly bigger and did it to 5.6 or 6.3
A lot of landscape photograper used F8 for their photos. So they won't mind f7.1
@beewhy001 no t
They don't I always use f3.5 as its the lowest my 20-60mm go and everything stays in focus and I get a lot of light
@@harryvlogs7833 That's you. But if you study a lot of landscape photography. The use f8 and above so eveything is in focus. And when they need more light. They reduce their shutter speed and use a tripod to take their images.
@@beewhy001 really i spent a year studying UAL film and photography and never saw that
I have ordered one - it's sold out currently, which is a good sign and it seems to be very popular. I am looking forward getting it and make my own experiences.
This lens is good for traveling. That is why the focal range and small size. Beautiful footage you have made with this lens.
Thanks for the kind words! It's a perfect travel lens IMO, and I can see this lens joining me on many adventures :)
This is more exiting then the spec list suggests, and your reaction reflects that!
I had the Olympus 12-100mm pro and this lens reminds me of it. Combined weight of lens and body is similar when paired (em1iii 12-100mm and s5ii 28-200mm)
Very temped to switch systems because of this release
Was about to buy the 24-105 but will wait for this. Perfect for our golf videos where we need a B cam to zoom. Thanks for the video
My pleasure, thank you for watching!
i dont know why a lens half the range should be considerd an alternative . someone who wants to buy a 200 is not happy with a 105
@@castielvargastv7931I think they are more concerned about having a do it all usable zoom range which can go wide and also zoom. The 24-105 is more probably the only alternative ,compared to say a 70-200 which may not be wide enough.
Wow on the high aperture, that's a dealbreaker.
I was originally eye-ing the 100m f/2.8 but this one is more affordable and it has everything from street to landscape to macro to portraits.
Great video as always! I hope Lumix will make a pro version of the 20-60 as a constant f2.8.
would become too big, but maybe constant f3.5 at least
or 20-50 f2.8 like that sony
I use the S5 for work, mainly with primes or the 24-105mm, but until now I still use my G9 for travel with the 14-140mm, which is an amazing lens, and hard to beat for flexibility, size and weight. This might be the lens that means I can ditch the G9 altogether - can’t wait to test it out.
Looks like a kit lens for a new camera, they did the same when they released the 20-60mm a bit before the S5… hopefully this means the new S1’s are around the corner
Hope it's an S1R replacement
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I heard Panasonic is planning for a compact, Sony A7C-like body.That would be a perfect match for the 28-200 size wise.
@@Thehackerguy2000Yes! I wish more people wanted a high res Lumix full frame with phase detect AF.
@@juin99 A 35mm 2.8 pancake would be a much better fit.
@@randomoneforstuff3696 ikr, it’s a hybrid camera system, we do photo and video!
Great review. Seems like a pretty versatile lens. The kit 20-60mm is severely underrated.
I've also taken a liking to the Panny 14-28mm lens also!
Wish this lens existed a few months back when I went out to Sri Lanka; I took the 24-105mm with me but this would have been just that bit nicer for some of the wildlife shots; great to see Lumix growing the lens lineup, hopefully I'll have another reason to consider this lens soon.
So epic. I love this and want one asap
I was thinking of getting a Sigma fp for a while... Now getting one for sure, slapping this on
I've been waiting for a lens like this ever since L-mount was announced, haha. 1:25 - well, only when looking at full frame lenses.
Perfect hiking lens and exactly what I've been waiting for. Thanks for the video! One question remains, is it weatherproof?
I love zoomlenses with crazy reach and this one seems to fit the bill. Still think the 24-105 is in a different league with the constant F4. The 28-200 is a great outdoor lens, for sure.
Great lens and looks as useful as my 14-140 on my Lumix G8, which is my travel/holiday camera at the moment, but that could change if I got this for my S5 II. Love the videos and great choice of watch too... I'm also a big Christopher Ward fan 😃
Sheesh! I thought it was click bait till I watched :D Amazing getting this video out here so soon. Great work.
It's not clickbait I promise 🤣More of an over-arching theme, if you will... Thanks for the kind words mate :)
This is fantastic news! Considering that you're getting nearly 8x zoom in this lens, the price seems very reasonable to me. If I owned it, it would make choosing between my 24-105mm f/4 and this very difficult.
It depends what you want from a lens. For me, the 28-105 f4 is a better lens for daily use, because its OiS and constant aperture. Yes, its bigger, but not so that it becomes a problem. This new lens is more like a good hiking lens for daylight use. For everything else not so much.
Perfect lens for people who want tiny micro four third or apsc lens but for full frame sensor.
Beautiful video footage. You made me confident that despite it's low aperture it can deliever stunning results nonetheless, particularly in low-light shooting. You shot at night with a 7.1 aperture you mad-man, you'll have the reddit people practically foaming at their mouths for that! Thanks for this
Hahaha! It's doable - I think people get too hung up on Aperture to be honest. If you want blurry backgrounds then of course it has a massive role to play, but if it's just a case of balancing light, then these modern cameras can truly surprise you with their higher ISO performance :) Thanks for watching !
Hi
Great review I think the 70-300 which with the kit lens 20-60 is already the best combo you can get for +- the same price and with 100mm more range...
I am just glad to hear that Panasonic hasn't abandoned lens-based stabilization. While this lens isn't for me, I do think it is going to get a lot of love from the general population.
can you suggest other good stabilized lenses?
Great stuff
LOL, I literally bought the 70-300 yesterday. It was $1200 after taxes. The 28-200 sounds awesome!
Lens looks incredible, with this release I wish to jump into pany FF cameras, the only missing thing is compact FF high-res camera from pany. I hope pany will do Lumix SX compact rangefinder body as A7CR competitor.
I've owned superzooms in the past, and didn't find myself using them for photography as much as I thought. However for video this is closer to camcorder lens range, which still has a use, with far better high ISO performance. Max aperture is always a compromise. Make it brighter and no one will use it as a carry round lens.
a midrange rangefinder style s10/50 apsc would fit really well with this lens as travel camera (paired with 14-28)
I do get that with the compression f7.1 doesn’t feel like f7.1… but I’ve never been a fan of variable aperture lenses. I’d rather not be limited. Though for the price, you’re right, it’s fair. I’d happily pay more so I’ll just keep saving for the 70-200 I guess 😅🫠🫠 great video though Josh!
Great, GREAT video! :D
Thank you!
OIS and the size makes it a very nice option. I have a Nikon F mount 28-300 but that thing on a dSLR is huge.
I would have liked to see it more like f4-f5.6 but I guess keeping that small casing does give them some pretty strict constraints.
I'll definitely be waiting for it to be used though... $1000 is too much.
I can't believe how small it is! Of course, a wider aperture would be nice but then it would need to be larger.
Looks like a very versatile B-roll lens
Amazing lens
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Josh, I love your L mount content. Thank you for that! Question: what standard zoom lens would you bring for your Panasonic s5 if you had to film an event and could only bring one lens? (Needs to be a bit cinematic)
Meanwhile I got this lens and have some experience. It is indeed a very nice lens with great flexibility and solid image quality. I can recommend it.
Thank you for the review. What do you think about using it with a 47MP sensor?
This lens is really making me question my recent G9ii purchase. The 14-140 is my most used m4/3 lens. I would have been tempted to get an S5ii and 28-200 instead. Throw in a couple of the f1.8 primes for a lightweight and capable kit. The OCD me really likes the constant look of the recent S lenses, and the same filter size would be so convenient.
buy it
I can see two lenses being in my 'take most of the time kit'. The 14-28 (which I already own) and this new 28-200. You can cover a great range with those two which is probably one reason why this new lens starts at 28 for crossover (and of course you can cover from 21-300 in APS-C mode with those two lenses). The only other lens I'd probably want is a prime like the 50mm 1.8 just in case I need some extra bokeh on certain subjects like a portrait shot or an interview set up.
This is definitely the idea I had too! Those two lenses will cover pretty much everything you could ever need in terms of focal range, and both being as compact as they are, it really wouldn't be hassle to keep them both in the bag at all times :)
@@JoshCameron absolutely. These two lenses cover everything in a broad term and you can get a few other lenses that you need for specialised needs over these. Yes they aren't super fast lenses or have a constant aperture of even F4 but then if they were the price point would make them unattainable for most people (which isn't what Panasonic is aiming for) and the quality of them is still very good for most professional work (certainly for anyone shopping for an S5II). This is certainly a lens I will be looking at getting.
@@JoshCameron OK... thinking about it more... Quick question, 24-150 f4 or 28-200?
Amazing lens. Now, for this use i think gh6+ oly 12-100 f4 is better, add a small laowa 7.5 or 10mm and the kit is perfect.
The reason is that if you need that kind of lens, you are on the move, shooting handheld, probably a lot of movement.... And mft sensors have less rolling shutter.
Great review Josh. The variable aperture on all the Lumix L mount zooms makes them unlovable for video. Good value for money though, if that doesn't matter.
I shoot a lot of indoor sports along with theater and dance. The super zoom range is great, but the poor aperture is absolutely a "No".
Do you think this could be a suitable replacement for the 24-105 if pairing with the 18 and 50 in my kit? Thoughts?
The aperture could definitely have been a bit smaller, but I guess with the constraints of the size I can kind of understand. it also doesn’t kill the 70 to 200 which is something I was considering. If it had been a lower aperture, I might’ve skipped on the 70-200 but now I might have to get both 😂🙈
Both sounds good 🤣 I guarantee you'll bring the 28-200 out with you more though!
Was just about ready to pull the trigger on the Sigma 28-70 f2.8, but this really got me thinking if I should sacrifice the wider aperture for more zoom range...
buy all
If the 20-60 had a baby with the 70-300 😂 The lens looks absolutely perfect for travel! Lumix look to be making some really good versatile lenses for the full frame system. This is somewhat close to the Lumix 14-140mm MFT which is one of the most versatile lenses for that sensor.
The craziest part for me is how small it is! MFT is awesome for being lightweight and portable, but it's very rare to see FF setups adopting that same philosophy! Hope you're well dude, always a pleasure to hear from you :)
@@JoshCameron I think of all brands, Lumix have the power to make compact FF zoom lenses 🙌🏽 all good man thank you 🙌🏽
Would you buy this over the Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8 DG DN? I'll also be getting a prime lens, so I can take portraits or heavy bokeh shots. One zoom and one prime to start with.
Such an interesting lens. I love that Lumix is doing genuinely original concepts.
Really looking forward to the 28-200mm but for some reason Panasonic has gone silent about it and I can't find anywhere with it or any impending date. Wish they'd give us some more info.
Not able yet to buy the lens local, are you able possible do short low light test video?
In m43 third camera we have the lumix 14-140mm so I know why you’re happy
Nice lens.
Which ND filter would you recommend to use with this setup?
Dual ISO is a game changer
HI, JOSH .. love from Bangladesh...like the works of yours.. but I need a help I got an issue with my Panasonic S5 IIx. Brought it from Japan in november 2023.
When I take a picture it turns out completely pitch black i tried every format like raw and jpeg also changed everything including iso ,shutter speed and exposure . also try it with card format and camera reset. But there is no hope. but there is no issue with the video, it is working fine as it was.
I live in Bangladesh . There is no lumix support center. so i don't have any idea what to do...
Hi mate can you tell me maximum aperture will change as you zoom what are values please?
I only have the S5 and not the S5ii- would you say the S5ii is a bit of a must for this and the new 100mm macro?
The aperture 7.1 and the missing zoom-lock is just keeping out of buying this lens. Like to go hiking and want to bring a nice zoom but hanging my camera on my backpack strap will have the lens fully extended all the time. And 4.0 isn’t gonna cut it for star photography
6:03 i want to see this, thank you bro:)
I beg to differ. Convenience comes at a price and image quality _will_ take a hit. There is no getting around it. But I love my 20-60 which is on my S1 most of the time. When I need extra reach I take my Canon 70-200 f4 IS with me. Together they are a killer combo.
Hi Josh any info about new cameras S1 MK2?
What would you recommend instead for a single travel/content creator lens? I have 20-60, 50mm and a Tamron 90mm macro. I find it too time consuming to switch lenses on vacations. I also feel like I’m lacking depth of field in the 20-35mm focal length. I’m thinking sigma 16-28mm. But then I’m missing a good 35mm option. Also with the 1.5x crop in video I always find I’m shooting around the 50mm focal length unintentionally 🤔
id suggest a 24mm 1.8. wide enough also if you want to vlog, then you can crop 1.5x = 35mm
it is like my Lumix ZS220. The all in one travel camera.
You don’t have to resort to engagement baiting
I believe in you to make actual content 👍
I think they have well and truly hit the back of the net with this lens in the Panasonic lineup. Here's a curveball question, does it say anywhere if the teleconverter can be also attached to this lens?
nice no need new lens but good to know
7.1 ideal
Awesome news. This lens looks perfect for what I’m wanting, and I’m glad Panasonic has delivered the quality. The aperture doesn’t phase me, small portable size with great IQ are more important in this type of lens, especially with the S5’s awesome ISO capability
Is it weather sealed?
:) seems very useful :) i hope i can't get a good price in my country.
With this is out of the way can we finally start getting some faster pro lenses now from Lumix?
What kind of focal range and how fast? I mean they make all those f1.8 primes...
I would love to see the lens used to film a short story or thing like that
Lemme see what I can do 👀
Love your videos, well done as always...but am I the only one disappointed with this announcement? Tamron showed what can be done with a 28-200: fast(ish) with stellar IQ. I guess I was thinking they'd do something to match that. Maybe I was wrong to think that, but I know plenty of people who moved to Sony specifically because of the Tamron 28-200 which could literally be the only lens you need. This isn't even close in my opinion. No one is switching systems for 4-7.1. I'd give up 3/4 of an inch of compactness for something that's usable indoors. Not to mention this is more expensive than the Tamron! Big miss in my book.
When will this lens be available to buy in the US. ?
Have been trying to find it for last 4 months.
I'm not actually too sure as I'm not in contact regularly with the US team. It should have been readily available a while back surely?
The Lumix S 20-60mm will be a better choice for many people. Getting that extra wide end is essential for interiors. Whereas one can simply crop to get more apparent magnification. And it's one-third the price. And a bit faster.
Still, this lens was designed for a purpose and I am glad Panasonic gives people more choice. Can't understand all the naysayers in the comments who wish this was a different lens entirely. What is packed into this package is quite amazing.
It's a great lens. But i would love to see how it competes with the 24-105 f4
The catch is the F-stop?
Make it a 24-200mm f/4 (constant) and regardless of how huge and expensive it would be, it will fly off the shelves. Also, Lumix needs to match Sony with a 20-70 f/4, and maybe phase out the 20-60mm.
I seen rumours about Samyang possibly doing a 35 - 150mm f2 however not sure how accurate this is.....have you hesrd anything?
How about compares to Tamron 28-200mm F2.8-5.6 A071?
I notice focus breeding in evening. And 200mm the AF not work.
the sony rx10iv has better image quality than full frame cameras with approx 24-200mm zoom lens attached. has this lens managed to break that barrier and actually bring increased image quality?
Wish the 35-150 f2-2.8 will be available for L mount