Selecting a Peep Sight
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- In this video I go over the importance of selecting a peep size that is compatible with the sight housing you are using. I also go over the difference between a clarifier and verifier, and how they can be used. Thanks for watching, keep it inside out!
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I am so thankful I saw this before I had my string changed, because I just went to a 3/16” from a 1/4” and is a world of difference. I use a Spot Hogg Fast Eddie XL and the MRT rings perfectly match up nw and there’s no question about the improved accuracy. Good to go, and thank you on the tip, channel is awesome, 👍🏹🦌
Thank you. I like your channel. Well articulated. It feels like real talk. No synthetic excitement.
Great info. Thank you for speaking in clear language and not experienced hunter speak
Good solid information. Every new archer needs to watch all your videos. It will save them time money and frustration. 👍👍
9:00 the word you are looking for is parallax. Precision / varmint rifle scopes have am adjustment for this to keep the crosshairs in focus at high magnification. In target shooting and varmint hunting you expect to be shooting at a variety of distances so having an adjustment for this is a big deal.
Parallax adjustment keeps the crosshairs from moving point of impact as you move your eye back and forth it's not a focus.
This is so good! I just went down from 1/4 inch after hunting and pins cleared up as well as target! I need to rewatch your videos more apparently!!!
Verifiers, been using for a few years. Biggest problem when hunting was trash/dirt and water drops and occasionally fogging. Took them out this year. They reduce the size of the aperture when installed in the 1/4" housing so you still end up using a 3/16ths" peep effectively.
One archery pet peeve of mine is that the tweener, Goldilocks perfect size for me is 7/32", but hardest to find in local shops. Cabela's and BPS only carry 3/16" and 1/4".
The Serveless Peep It peep sight is awesome. Installs in 30 seconds, no tie in, no risk of string burn/melt, doesn't move under brace tension, easy to tweak adjust with portable bow press, and adjustable for rotation by micro moving it up or down, comes in many diameters including my preferred 7/32".
Yeah we’ve installed a few of them, may have just been that particular one, but it chewed up the guys string after a few hundred shots
@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks for the tip/advice. The material is more abrasive that a standard aluminum peep. I pressed the bow, applied a generous amount of wax on the underlying string, and will keep an eye on it. I could see how trying to force adjust it by sliding it at brace under tension could cause string abrasion, so I will only make adjustments after pressing the bow.
Can I add that you should do your research regarding peep brands. A couple out there have a bad reputation for sharp edges that cut strings. I bought a TruGlo Versa with the interchangable inserts. Seemed like a great idea as I wasn't too sure exactly what size peep I needed. Worked really well until I drew my bow one day and it blew up in my hands. Plenty of info out there on forums
@Inside Out Precision, another great video. I'm sick at home with COVID with more free time than usual and I've been going through hours of your videos. This is really well timed because I am going to buy my first brand new bow. I've only ever bought used bows so now I have to research what peep, stabilizer, sight and arrows I want to match up with this new bow. Your videos have been hugely educational. Thank you!
Great information, thank you! I’ve never had that explained to me at my local pro shop!
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I wear glasses.. and use a 4x scope lens.
If I wear my glasses.. I can see the pin but the target is blurred
If I dont wear my glasses. I cannot see the pin but the target is clear.
So I wear my glasses and use a clarifier
I just switched to a black gold dual track that has a smaller housing than my previous sight and there's definitely a fair amount of daylight around the sight. I have to center the sight within the peep but I'll probably get a different size at some point.
The reason why the scope will have more ot less daylight around it based on whether you are indoors or outdoors has nothing to do with glare. This is happening because the size of your eye pupil is changing due to the amount of light you have indoors or outdoors. When outdoors for example your pupil constricts and this decroeases your field of view immediately in front of the eye whre is the second aperture of this optical assembly.
Also the older you get your eyes don’t work like they used to at last light, I like a big peep sight.
Good advice even for rifles like mine. Remington nylon 66 with a modified laymann peep sight i got as a kid.
They sell a 1/8 “ verifier but you also have to buy a reducer bushing to fit the housing , this is how I’m set up for the single pin react one sight ,
what a great video! very informative.
Glad you liked it! Good shooting to you 👍
Great info I have a 33” draw and wasn’t sure if you’d cover that. Thanks.
What bow do you use? I have a 32" draw and I'm using the matthews traverse. Also are full length arrows long enough? Mine seem to just fit.
@@zachattack4982 Jesus...how tall are you? I'm at a 26 inch at around 5'3 5'4 at 13...
Jesus...how tall are you? I'm at a 26 inch at around 5'3 5'4 at 13...
@@zachattack4982 Hoyt double xl.
@@zachattack4982 different arrows are different lengths from the factory. The majority I shoot uncut.
my sight housing is a Axcel Hunting Slider Sight ArmorTech Lite Fixed Mount 1.6 inch Scope an my bow is a Bowtech SS34 the peep Sight is a 5/32" and still I don't have a full view of the scope!
what should I do?
I have ultraview sight and 3/16 peep from Hamskea it's to big.I think 1/8 gonna be better
Which bow do you use for hunting? And which one for target? Thanx in avance, and congrats for tour amazing work at all those really helpfull vídeos :) .
Thank you! I shoot a Mathews Traverse for hunting and a Mathews Halon X for target.
hi nice video am using AV31 Plus RheoStat Cover + the magnifier lenses which peep sight will fit me?
@@InsideOutPrecision
I'd try a 3/32
Good information thanks
Hey Kellen, at the end of the giddy you suggest that the peep appears smaller outdoors due to glare, when it is your pupil constricting from the brighter natural light, and indoors the pupil expands or dilation makes the peep look smaller.
Very informative
Good video
What about low light when. Hunting? Too small not enough light.
Good information
This was real helpful. Thank you!
Great vid had same issue this year on new setup ran a different sight than what I normally run 1 5/8 so new sight advertise as 1 5/8 but was more like 1 3/4 and had to go up from 3/16 to 1/4 I wish sight companies would give actual sizes so from now on I will be measuring sight's before installing peep
I have the Specialty Archery 1/4" hooded peep. I started with a verifier. Now with a 2x or 6x scope lens a clarifier was needed to sharpen the blurry target. The retailer did not stock the lower power clarifiers, so I'm back on the hunt.
Currently the silver verifier is in and the 2x lens.
Hmmm, shouldn't need a clarifier with a 2x lense, but everybody is different. I generally don't run a clarifier until I get to a 4x or higher
Might be bit late here, but how do pro shops guess which peep size to use? Is there a chart or whatever that everybody needs lol? or is it just a trial and error and the pro shops just give you a baseline to start?
Trial and error
Good Video!
I just miss some info about peep angle.
Thx for the video's, learned a lot! I just started out with a compound after years of shooting traditional, can you demonstrate or explain what i have to see or how to alligne the peep with the sight and the pins? Do i center the pin in the middle of my peep, or the ring of the sight centered in the peep and the pin on the target or how? Thx for the help!
Do y'all think a single pin sight is good for me as a brand new beginner?
It’s probably fine, I know they can be tricky to get your head around but that learning curve doesn’t get smaller with experience with a 3 pin site. Multi pin sights are really easy to use as a beginner but you lose a lot flexibility, since you can only have 3 or 4 preset distances to shoot, with experience you can start making shots between pins but it doesn’t match a single pin sight
No its harder to learn distances and takes longer to change settings than a 3 or 5 pin sight You will learn to pick distance faster with a multi pin to start with , and if you plan to hunt its way quicker to get a shot off that stuffing around with shifting your pin up and down.
What size peep would you use for a Garmin Xero A1?
Impossible to answer... It depends on how far the peep is from your eye and how far the peep is from your scope.
What has been your experience with the peep sight cutting into the bow string. I just had that happen and now having to wait for new custom string but was interested to hear your take on Hamskea raptor hooded peep?
I am shooting a spott hogg fast eddie xl, with the adjustable sight rings would it be beneficial to put on a larger peep and the larger sight ring?
What about a EZV ? Peep or no peep?
Thank you......
Overheard at the range:
Kellen: Ok...4X verifier...Better or worse...
Shooter:.....um, maybe a bit better...
Kellen: Ok ....5X verifier....better or worse....
Shooter....uh...hmm.....can I try 4X again
Kellen: sure....4X...better or worse....
Haha yep. Story of my life
I have poor sight but at 15 yards I can see the target clear but pin is fuzzy with 1/4in peep, I bought a 6x lens for my hha ol-5019, now the target is a little blurred from magnification and the pin is still fuzzy but I can see target rings at 30 yds fine just blurry, any suggestions for hunting
you need a clarification lens on your peep sight, so youll need to switch over to a threaded peep if you dont have one already
Just installed a 4x lense in my HHA Kingpin scope - very blurry target view. Peep aperture may be too large? Local shop pro says I need a clarifier. Moving the scope had no effect. Thoughts?
What size peep are you running?? I like 3/32 for my 4x scope
Just got a 1/8" clarifier. #2 in fact. That did the trick.
@@theHammr88 Good to hear! It's different for everyone, glad you found something that works. Thanks for watching, feel free to reach out with anymore questions.
Hi. When drawn, I can't see the entire sight in my peep. If I move my head towards the peep, then yeah, I can see the shiny ring of the sight but that is not a natural position for my head. I already moved the peep down the string towards the D loop. It is now perfectly aligned with the center of the sight. I can shoot quite accurate but only using the center pin as I don't see the others. Do I need a larger peep? Or am doing something wrong? This is the Topint M1 bow which has very short ATA and I am a big boy with 30-31 inch draw.
If the peep is at eye level and you still can't see all of your sight, it sounds like either:
- The peep is rotated (e.g. not pointing straight forward/back)
- The sight is too close (if you have a dovetail mount, move it further foward)
- Peep sight is too small
@@jinshifu thank you. this is helpful. additional problem is the bow has very short ATA and I am a big boy with max draw. this makes the string angle
I used an 1/8" until a spike busted me at full draw when I lost him through the peep. I had to look up to find him. And he found me.
I use a ⅛" peep sight, never had that problem, watch your target as you draw so you keep it on him or her
What about peep less set ups?
What about them haha?? Much less accurate.
Does Tim Wells shot a peep?
@@InsideOutPrecision Im 10 points less accurate on a 600 round. peep vs no peep.
7/32" for me
@insideoutprecision I have a small amount of daylight when I'm at full draw on the bottom of my peep. Should I get a smaller peep?
If it's only around the bottom it sounds like your peep need to be raised a hair.
@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks! I'll look into that.
Hello, I plan on running a Black Gold Pro 3 pin with the pro X frame and a Hamskea raptor peep but not sure which size to pick. I have a 29” draw, what would you suggest? Thanks
3/16
@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you very much!
Do you have any idea what the best peep size would be for the Garmin xero?
I am struggling with my peep at the moment and I’m not sure if it’s just me with my short draw length or what. Currently I have a 3/16 peep. I moved my sight in closer to help with peep alignment but there is still room around my scope it’s not a perfect eclipse. When it’s darker like in the woods or a poorly lit indoor range my peep almost disappears ! I just can see a fuzzy black blur no clear lines. I have a 25,5 inch draw length and 30’’ ata bow so my peep is pretty close to my eye. Would going to a 1/8th peep help with this ?
Inddors, your peep will pretty much always look somewhat blurry and a bit larger than when you're outdoors. It's just due to the lighting and amount of glare the coming through the peep. I think going to an 1/8" would be fine.
I started with a very small aperture peep and slowly reamed it out to the correct size as one was too small and the next size was too big.
Is there a big issue with out using a peep site I just bought a new bow last year and never used a peep on my old bow
Yes you need a peep sight to achieve the most consistency and accuracy.
I used to shoot without a peep, now that I've switched over I'm never going back. Peep sights increase precision by so much it's not even funny
@@BeetleBuns yeah pretty much a standard nowadays
@@InsideOutPrecision Im a recurve archer that converted to compound a few years ago. The increase in accuracy between peep and no peep, for me is 10 points on a 600 round.
Having consistent form and a good anchor is a necessity for recurve accuracy.
Ive noticed that most compound archers that have only shot compound, generally have terrible form and technique.
I have a Traverse, do you run a scope on it?
Id never run one for hunting. If it fogs up, gets dusty, or you have to shoot into the sun you won't be able to see a damn thing
Thanks for the video. What about peeps that come in 37 or 45 degree angles?
They come in different angles for different ATA bows. Longer or shorter bows need different angled peeps so ensure they're square to your eye.
The Hamskea peep does both angles.
Every competitive iron sight rifle shooter will disagree with your take here. You do not want your peep to just eclipse the sight housing. You want some moderate gap though not huge. Your brain can see the change in that gap easier than in a perfect eclipse.
Clarifier’s, getting to that age! 🤣
BRO U GOT TO STOP SMACKING UR LIPS OMG
Be smart! Do not use one. The Bowmer Nose Button is The only thing you need to be deadly accurate and not force your eyes to look through a small hole that becomes impossible in low light.
To each their own. But you won't see a competitive shooter on the planet who doesn't use a peep sight because you'reless accurate without one, plain and simple.. I've never had an issue in low light situations. But hey if no peep works for you, then right on! I'm not one to judge