You beat me into making this video. I use almost the exact same setup, I forgo the point defense and use gimbaled pulse lasers in the 1 slots. If you pop one shield bank it was a good fight. Viper is the king of combat.
Once again, great footage! Thanx for making more combat-focused videos, much apretiated! A little sidenote to those who don't master the art of using fixed b-lasers yet (like myself) and just waste heat on empty space; I find it more rewarding with gimbaled p-lasers, they generate less heat and even though the DPS goes down a bit I tend to hit more which in return gives me more DPS. Cheers!
This is virtually the same setup I run on my Viper... Instead of the Point Defense I go for a Wake Scanner and a Fuel Scoop and FSD Interdictor for keeping costs down and the option to pick and choose my targets in Super Cruise :)
Thank you for the help with how to set up the Viper. I got my first two solo Anaconda kills today, one was even the 150k bounty mission. ;-) Keep up the great vids, they really help idiots like me.
I freaking love the Viper Mk. III. Lesson for all those bounty hunters without cargo racks: turn OFF the cargo hatch. It uses 3% and does nothing for you.
***** Okay great, just do what your good at. And thx for being such a good youtuber. I is really great that you keep in touch with your community. Keep this up, and you'll get even bigger ;)
***** me 2, and thats why I love frontier more then the guys behind Star Citzen, I will play both. But I have my doubts about if star citzen won't be over hyped, and if they can give what the community want's
mount gimbles on top..Then they can shoot UP at better angle..Under the front and they dont shoot up well, without hitting ship..soo they dont shoot up.
Thanks for this - I was having trouble figuring out what a decent loadout would be. I went with the same lasers and multi cannons except all gimballed because I suck at aiming.
I noticed you use a 2B Shield Cell Bank, but many people have observed that rating provides an unnoticeable improvement (if any at all). A 2E would perform nearly equally and save mass and power.
Nice fit, although somewhat different than my pure bounty hunter: I have 4 gimballed MCs, basic armor (if you lose shields, you're doing it wrong), and no cargohold at all (I don't bother with scooping crap, it's a waste of time imho). Works like a charm and eats everything alive.
I prefer dumbfire missiles on my viper. Bought one today and managed to kill 11 anacondas at assasination missions and raising my reputation with the federation to friendly.
I'm curious as to your thoughts on the Vulture. I found the Viper to have a woefully inadequate turn rate even with class A thrusters, with the Vulture handling significantly better even with stock thrusters.
That is how I will kit out my Viper that's parked in Leesti/George Lucas Station. Well I already have most of the stuff (got all the guns and most of the internals) but for now I will just loose myself in the black with my explorer Cobra. Maybe in a couple of months when I'm back. Should have some money from exploring by then, too.
***** I meant IRL time. I only get so much playtime for Elite(I play other games, too!). And besides exploring doesn't earn you much compared to trading or even bounty hunting. I just wanna go out and see what I find. Hopefully fate won't screw me and I'll see some black holes and cool stars. And I'll be an unexperienced Combat Pilot. Better to fly something that won't cost me millions to replace ;)
After watching this i am really tempted to sell my Asp and go back to the Viper, though it'll be interesting to see what happens when the Fer de Lance comes out and how it'll stack up next the viper and cobra.
I don't know... I'm happy in my cobra with two class 2 pulse lasers and 2 class 1 dumbfire missiles. I'll break through most shields (even upgraded vipers) in a few seconds and the pulse lasers are actually pretty good at wearing down hulls too. For the bigger targets, the missiles are awesome... the DPS on those suckers is pretty much unprecedented. Taking down asps, pythons and fed dropships in one or two passes. Took an anaconda from 100% hull to 0% hull real fast too.
I actually switched to a Viper now to see what I could get it to do. Feels much the same as the cobra, but more agile. Haven't gotten any serious return fire yet though, so I can't speak for the shields yet. But I'm using the T2 Pulse lasers and T1 dumbfire combo. The T2 Pulse lasers take out most small targets really quickly. Even targets like cobras and T6 transports are taken down fast from 100% hull to 0%. The missiles are for the harder targets. Just make sure the bounty is high, since it's 250 per missile :) That racks up pretty fast if you need 10-20 missiles to take down a larger target like a python or anaconda.
Well you don't use dumbfire missiles on anything other than very large targets (or if a valuable but smaller target is about to jump into SC and you won't be able to kill it with lasers before that). It's not like I run around shooting sidewinders with my missiles. I usually don't return to base before I've had a dozen or so kills myself. It's just that I don't waste the missiles.
Where did you find class 2 Pulse lasers? All I've seen so far are Beam lasers for C2. I'm actually trying to outfit my Viper right now. Figured C2 fixed beam for shields and c1 gimballed multi-cannons for chewing on hulls would be the way to go. But I'm running into serious power issues.
I like the Viper loadput in general, I run a similar one but my problem is with the bottom hard points the gimble range isn't that great. I went with C2 fixed MCs and they work great.
Great video but I am having a problem getting the same figures you show. I copied everything exactly as you have it but I have different Power Use numbers. Retracted is showing 9.76Mw, Deployed is 13.18MW while Available remains at 12.00 MW. Is this because of the recent change to Shield Cell Bank power costs?
i was lucky and picked up a 100,000 credit bounty early game, so i bought an eagle, then upgraded to a Viper recently, working my way to the federal corvette coming in v1.2 haha
Just got the Viper MKIII and want to put the FDS interdictor in it (already have Kill Warrant scanner) and don't know which I should take off the ship. It looks like my options are Fuel scoop, Cargo rack or Advance discovery scanner? and how is he using the Kill warrant scanner with out a FDS interdictor?
I'd drop the point defense for a frame shift wake scanner because I'm not too worried about missiles, and I really hate it when people get away. I would also get a fsd interdictor and either drop that cargo rack or put on a discovery scanner. I also prefer gimballed burst lasers to fixed beam lasers because it just makes things so much easier to hit. I don't care how skilled a pilot you are, gimballed is going to mean more shots on target and more damage overall.
There is like a 40 percent reduction in damage for gimbal vs fixed. Any decent pilot should have no problem with fixed. Now for kenitic damage things change, if you are fighting condas and need to kill its FSD for a quick kill? Gimbal works great. But not needed.
Slick Reed The benefit of gimballed though is you can get more than 40% more time on the target so the actual damage is higher. Unless you are a complete ace I wouldn't recommend any fixed weapon.
I haven't used gimbaled weapons since premium beat. With plenty of chaff onboard and on a class A fit viper, gimbaled weapons is basically a death ticket.
Where do you buy all the modules you need? Most of the starports I stop at have a very limited selection, and I find myself searching all over to get what I want.
So I copied your loadout exactly for both Hardpoints and Internal equipment, but I am seeing a significant difference in the Power Use figures. On my viper it shows 9.76MW retracted, 13.22MW deployed while the Available is the same at 12.00MW. Has something changed in game since you made this video? Any thoughts on where I am going wrong?
From what I have heard 1x class 2 beam has more dmg and generates less heat then 2x class 1. My viper is running 1 c2 beam, right side, right mouse button. Left mouse button all gimbaled multis. Maybe something for you to test?
Unrelated to this video, but could you do a quick guide on how best to sell a ship? I've heard so many different things as to how to go about it but it'd be great to know what the best way to get most or all of your Cr back is. Thanks!
I haven't tried that out. I just sold the ship out right. I'm assuming that the price for the ship and all it's components would be the same as if you sold it all individually.
Duf1091 You get 100% back for the internals if you sell them separately first(replace with cheapest available in cases where you must have a module). If you sell the ship with all the internals you purchased they will be subject to a 10% loss, the same as the ship. Sell parts first, then the ship. It's a longer process, but when you're spending 1 million+ on internals, it's crazy to just chuck 10% of that away(unless you're swimming in credits and don't mind the hit).
Do you use all 4 weapons at once? I seem to be overheating, I'm using close to your load out. My Deployed is 11.28 and available is 12.00 so I'm even less then you. My lasers seem to overheat though when I have them all going (cannon and lasers). What am I doing wrong with power ?
I had a cobra for a while, but I recently started doing a lot of bounty hunting so I changed to a Viper and loaded it out. I have to tell you though that im switching back to cobra for dog fighting. For me, I like it more because you cant have any high rated weapons on a viper because it doesn't have enough power. Such a waste. Only reason why I even switched to a viper from a cobra was because of the small HP location on the cobra, its horrible placement, you can never hit anything with both small HP at the same time if they are not gimbaled because of how far away the weapons are from each other. I don't like gimbaled, I prefer fixed because I have pretty good aim and they have more damage. If only the viper had a better power plant to hold more powerful weapons, that would be perfect
softan cobra doesn't have higher rated shields, viper does. it has 140 shields and Cobra has 90. Also, one ship shields cant be stronger than the other. Its all based on Class and rank. class 3 A shields on one ship are exact same than class 3 A on another ship. Look it up.
I've just outfitted my Viper in exactly the same way you have but my power usage is different, Retracted: 9.76 MW Deployed: 13.22 MW Have they changed stats in a recent patch?
Just askin is this loadout good if your going solo mode? (would go open but xbox community so far I've found to be toxic) 2 small multi cannons and 2 medium pusle lasers, I'm happy with my other modals but after watching others I'm not sure about my loadout, my MCS are on the small mount mainly due to the positioning which allows for more tot.
12.57MW deployed with 12MW available. Will this be a huge issue when distributing power? Shouldn't the deployed power usage be lesser than the available? Btw, is this a viper or cobra video?
Hey BG nice video thanks, I decided to copy this load out to get a good feel, so I have copied it exactly, except for life support D2 I only have standard, which is less load anyway, I am also lacking any chaff or point defence yet my deployed draw is 12.98 how is yours lower I also have a free x1 interior bay, this is using cargo scoop and FSD on Priority 2. have they altered that game settings since you made this?
got all the same loadout and my ship powered down everytime i activated the hardpoints. changed cargo and frameshift to two and it still powered down my ship. and i got killed too many times and my loan got maxed out so now i have to start over. tried to change things to two but it didnt work. so wtf did i do wrong???
This is NOT an optimal combat setup, I'd say far from it - 4 tons of fuel is an mistake take 2, and I frequently don't fill up more than 60% when going for combat - FSD D rating clas 2 (did not see D class1, guess this would be better). If you intend to fight there is realy no need for jump range - You don't need cargo space for fighting, you need frameshift interdictor and at least 2 shield cell banks - You are quite good on weapons but your setup will not do to well in PVP as player tend to max out their's shields I would propose 2xc1 Burst 1xc2 Beam 1xc2 Multi canon I run this Gimbled takes down shields and hull quite fast - The utilities ... if you wan't to survive in a viper you MUST have 2x Chaff without that meeting a player in FDL or a vulture is a death sentence. With 2x Chaf and smart game play you can kill vultures and fend of FDL's - Its worth taking mirrored surface, a lot of players run laser only setups - but if you meet somone with kinetic, dont let your shields go down This is what I run right now - 2xc1 gimbled Brust - 1xc2 gimbled Beam - 1xc2 gimbled Multicannon - 2x chaff launcher - Mirrored surface composite - Power plant A3 - Thrusters A3 - Frame shift drive D2 - Life support D2 - Power Distributor A3 - Sensors D3 - Fuel tank 2 tones - Shield Generator A3 - Shield cell bank A2 - Shield cell bank B2 - Frame shift intredictor I still need to optimise the shield cell banks a bit, maybe get lower FSD, and life support if possible (?) In this setup I can pull out 403 m/s or so (need to recheck), have fairly good firepower and thanks to chaff and small size am hard to hit.
+Shawn March will check him out - always looking for good viper drivers :) As for the rest of our comment, I agree - it completely depends on the play style
+Przemysław Wilkutowski Actually, the video's loadout is really good. Today I have single-handedly destroyed 4 Federal Corvettes and 3 Anacondas. The only thing I changed, though, was the point defence. I found that using a chaff launcher (instead of a point defence), will scramble lasers when in battles like conflict zones. I also highly recommend adding the Empty internal space with another fuel module, as the viper guzzles a lot in one system.
Man, how do you know so much about those fittings all ready? It'll take me years to get my head round all those fittings, just upgraded my fsd on the sidewinder and put on a bit more cargo space. The viper seems like months away for me but all good advice just hope it's all not nerfed before I get there :)
It shouldn't take you that long to get to a cobra or viper. Next ship I suggest getting is the adder and skip the hauler. Adder has pretty decent cargo space and you can upgrade it to bounty hunt as well.
flyinginabluedre Thanks for heads up, have just enough for adder now with some free credits left in my glove compartment, how much does it cost to fit it for a hauler in the first instance?
The adder has an extra type 2 compartment which you can use for cargo space. I never had a hauler so I wouldn't know how much it would all cost. I would use your sidey to exchange with the adder, should give you some extra credits to play around with. I'm pretty sure the 8 rack cargo space which goes into the type 3 internal slot only costs around 10K So it wouldn't be that much If you're interested. I had a type 2 gimballed multi-cannon on top and two type 1 non-gimballed beam lasers on the bottom. Also whist not as fast as a cobra, it out maneuvers it any day. Sorry for the essay, thought all of this might help.
why did you have your lasers on fixed instead of gimballed. I know that they are a lot cheaper and they won't be annoyed by the Chaff. But I'm just wondering if there are any other reasons?
burtoner Set priority for FSD and cargo hatch to 2 and they won't draw from the power plant when hard points are out, allowing you to deploy hard points without exceeding your power rating
Had the exact same weapons set up, but switched to all fixed lasers so I wouldn't have to restock ammo when bounty hunting : o Not yet sure how much of a problem I wil now have with elite anacondas though.
Hi mate! I chose the same loadout but when I want to power my weapons the ship shuts down as I don't seem to have enough power. I checked your video again and you also seem not to have enough energy (12.57MW needed vs. 12MW available), how are you dealing with that in game?
Mumba Mumba You can change the priority of what modules get powered and which ones don't when you overload the system. So you can set your cargo hatch and other things you don't generally need in combat to power down when you power up your weapons.
Mumba Mumba Something has changed since this video was made. This loadout is no longer possible. I followed it word for word, set the cargo hatch and FSD to priority 2, but I'm sitting at 9.76 retracted and 13.22 deployed. Sorry mate.
and how you play you only got 12.00MW but deploy you are at 12.57MW ? when im over that i cant do anything i only can get 11.00 where can i find a A3 power plant
LiptonPRODUCTIONSx you can set priorities on the modules section on the right console these determine what order they turn off to conserve power. Set things you wont need while in weapons are deployed to 3 or higher (for example a docking computer or that frame shift interrupter). They'll turn back on when weapons are detracted. Still gives that annoying message everytime though :/
Well they still haven't responded to me and I've already nearly gotten all mine back now. I think it may have been my fault after all losing my cargo, but I'm not sure exactly how.
Guys do you have any advice on making some cash so I can outfit my ship??? trade as it is now is 10 hours searching for a route and 5 hours using it making 500k-1mil, the time I need to invest just to find a decent trade rout is incredibly frustrating to the point where am simply thinking of quitting the game and coming back a year from now where hopefully some working trade tools are available ingame. If anyone has an tips that can help then please give me something, even by PM.
I've found bounty hunting best method for me. Yesterday, ran the scenario: weak signal source, jumped in, gold canister - a trap! Then, 5 pirates attacked, eagles and cobras. Killed them, meanwhile green ships jumped in to help me. Then I see: Anaconda wanted pirate! Targeted power plant, killed it. Bah, 245 000 credits from bounties for 6 pirate ships! Also found in strong signal sources: sometimes there are big ships fighting, you can get in and kill 180k bounty anaconda there! Of course, if these big ships targeting you - turbo and jump out, no problem for quick, mighty viper. You can't win against 3 anacondad at once though.Btw. first 300k I've earned by bounty hunting with Sidewinder. Small, agile, deadly.
Aleksander K Am thinking of going full bounty hunting, though it might not yield as much as trade its allot more fun, at least until they get proper trade tools working in the game (the ability to check supply and demand remotely most importantly) which I hope soon.
DK988 I'm pretty sure that trading is more profitable, you have to use internet tools. However, yesterday I did the assasination mission first time. Yield: over 400k credits for killing lone anaconda. It was 198k for mission and 211k bounty in system faction.
Aleksander K Thats the thing, internet tools are based on information provided by players, so its not very accurate since supply and demand is always changing, you can cross 200 lyrs only to find that the profit the internet tools calculated is halved. I don't get why remote market info is not available it is available today so it makes even more sense to have it in the year 3000. Well anyway till they get something like that implemented trade will always be 70% looking through the internet tools and the other 30% doing the trade, so I'll go bounty hunting since its more fun. Btw from your experience what is a good ship for bounty hunting? I have an asp and around 7 mil in the bank I'd rather not sell the asp since I use it for trade every now and then so do you have any recommendations on ships that I can get for around 6 mil?
got the same loadout and this ship sucks. can't bounty hunt because i get blown up everytime, even when im with allied policeforce and allied anaconda's. after the horizon realese and the updates after that the game is trash. can't earn money on it with bounty hunting. game was epic at first but now it is trash....
You beat me into making this video. I use almost the exact same setup, I forgo the point defense and use gimbaled pulse lasers in the 1 slots. If you pop one shield bank it was a good fight. Viper is the king of combat.
Once again, great footage! Thanx for making more combat-focused videos, much apretiated!
A little sidenote to those who don't master the art of using fixed b-lasers yet (like myself) and just waste heat on empty space; I find it more rewarding with gimbaled p-lasers, they generate less heat and even though the DPS goes down a bit I tend to hit more which in return gives me more DPS.
Cheers!
at 2:54 you recommend reactive against beam lasers. You want mirrored against thermal weapons. I guess you just mixed that up accidentally ;)
This is virtually the same setup I run on my Viper... Instead of the Point Defense I go for a Wake Scanner and a Fuel Scoop and FSD Interdictor for keeping costs down and the option to pick and choose my targets in Super Cruise :)
Thank you for the help with how to set up the Viper. I got my first two solo Anaconda kills today, one was even the 150k bounty mission. ;-) Keep up the great vids, they really help idiots like me.
I freaking love the Viper Mk. III. Lesson for all those bounty hunters without cargo racks: turn OFF the cargo hatch. It uses 3% and does nothing for you.
you can still have the cargo racks just make sure nuttin's in it whan ya throw the off switch :P
+TiltedScales Put cargo hatch in priority 3. It turns itself off when not using it...
I put the exact setup into my viper and it uses 13.18MW today.
At last someone who knows this stuff.. i was lost after making enough money to spend on what i want to.. Bounty Hunting here I come.. Thank you BG
Great video as always! looking forward for your future videos :)
***** Could you do a video where you talk about the features you would like to see in elite dangerous? i'm courios for your vision for the future
***** Okay great, just do what your good at. And thx for being such a good youtuber. I is really great that you keep in touch with your community. Keep this up, and you'll get even bigger ;)
***** me neither, but it will grow. Just some good updates and this will be a game to enjoy for years
***** me 2, and thats why I love frontier more then the guys behind Star Citzen, I will play both. But I have my doubts about if star citzen won't be over hyped, and if they can give what the community want's
mount gimbles on top..Then they can shoot UP at better angle..Under the front and they dont shoot up well, without hitting ship..soo they dont shoot up.
Thanks for this - I was having trouble figuring out what a decent loadout would be. I went with the same lasers and multi cannons except all gimballed because I suck at aiming.
I noticed you use a 2B Shield Cell Bank, but many people have observed that rating provides an unnoticeable improvement (if any at all). A 2E would perform nearly equally and save mass and power.
Thanks! This made me get up to -700k- 1m per bounty hunting run!
Nice fit, although somewhat different than my pure bounty hunter: I have 4 gimballed MCs, basic armor (if you lose shields, you're doing it wrong), and no cargohold at all (I don't bother with scooping crap, it's a waste of time imho). Works like a charm and eats everything alive.
I prefer dumbfire missiles on my viper.
Bought one today and managed to kill 11 anacondas at assasination missions and raising my reputation with the federation to friendly.
***** what do u think about cannons? or pulse/burst lasers?
Far from having the cash right now, but this looks preeeetty nice!
I'm curious as to your thoughts on the Vulture. I found the Viper to have a woefully inadequate turn rate even with class A thrusters, with the Vulture handling significantly better even with stock thrusters.
That is how I will kit out my Viper that's parked in Leesti/George Lucas Station. Well I already have most of the stuff (got all the guns and most of the internals) but for now I will just loose myself in the black with my explorer Cobra.
Maybe in a couple of months when I'm back. Should have some money from exploring by then, too.
***** I meant IRL time. I only get so much playtime for Elite(I play other games, too!). And besides exploring doesn't earn you much compared to trading or even bounty hunting. I just wanna go out and see what I find. Hopefully fate won't screw me and I'll see some black holes and cool stars.
And I'll be an unexperienced Combat Pilot. Better to fly something that won't cost me millions to replace ;)
Lol, " Today i will show you how to outfit your Cobra MK III, and in my opinion it's much better than the Cobra "
+Threat You're not the only one. XD
RezonenGaming yeh I heard that as well XD
After watching this i am really tempted to sell my Asp and go back to the Viper, though it'll be interesting to see what happens when the Fer de Lance comes out and how it'll stack up next the viper and cobra.
Great video! Thanks for posting
I don't know... I'm happy in my cobra with two class 2 pulse lasers and 2 class 1 dumbfire missiles.
I'll break through most shields (even upgraded vipers) in a few seconds and the pulse lasers are actually pretty good at wearing down hulls too.
For the bigger targets, the missiles are awesome... the DPS on those suckers is pretty much unprecedented.
Taking down asps, pythons and fed dropships in one or two passes.
Took an anaconda from 100% hull to 0% hull real fast too.
I actually switched to a Viper now to see what I could get it to do.
Feels much the same as the cobra, but more agile.
Haven't gotten any serious return fire yet though, so I can't speak for the shields yet.
But I'm using the T2 Pulse lasers and T1 dumbfire combo.
The T2 Pulse lasers take out most small targets really quickly.
Even targets like cobras and T6 transports are taken down fast from 100% hull to 0%.
The missiles are for the harder targets.
Just make sure the bounty is high, since it's 250 per missile :)
That racks up pretty fast if you need 10-20 missiles to take down a larger target like a python or anaconda.
Well you don't use dumbfire missiles on anything other than very large targets (or if a valuable but smaller target is about to jump into SC and you won't be able to kill it with lasers before that).
It's not like I run around shooting sidewinders with my missiles.
I usually don't return to base before I've had a dozen or so kills myself.
It's just that I don't waste the missiles.
Where did you find class 2 Pulse lasers? All I've seen so far are Beam lasers for C2. I'm actually trying to outfit my Viper right now. Figured C2 fixed beam for shields and c1 gimballed multi-cannons for chewing on hulls would be the way to go. But I'm running into serious power issues.
In Eravate... Ackerman market.
Found it in other places too though.
I like the Viper loadput in general, I run a similar one but my problem is with the bottom hard points the gimble range isn't that great. I went with C2 fixed MCs and they work great.
This was a great video! Could you do one for the Cobra?
Great video but I am having a problem getting the same figures you show. I copied everything exactly as you have it but I have different Power Use numbers. Retracted is showing 9.76Mw, Deployed is 13.18MW while Available remains at 12.00 MW. Is this because of the recent change to Shield Cell Bank power costs?
nice video BG. do you have your cannons and lasers assigned to different fire buttons or are they all on the same one?
Ah thought so, the sights on the multi cannon take a bit of getting used to, they bob about everywhere lol, thanks mate
Actually the Cobra MkIII is faster. It can boost upto 450ms compared to the 415 or something of the Viper. But great video.
i was lucky and picked up a 100,000 credit bounty early game, so i bought an eagle, then upgraded to a Viper recently, working my way to the federal corvette coming in v1.2 haha
Just got the Viper MKIII and want to put the FDS interdictor in it (already have Kill Warrant scanner) and don't know which I should take off the ship. It looks like my options are Fuel scoop, Cargo rack or Advance discovery scanner? and how is he using the Kill warrant scanner with out a FDS interdictor?
I'd drop the point defense for a frame shift wake scanner because I'm not too worried about missiles, and I really hate it when people get away. I would also get a fsd interdictor and either drop that cargo rack or put on a discovery scanner.
I also prefer gimballed burst lasers to fixed beam lasers because it just makes things so much easier to hit. I don't care how skilled a pilot you are, gimballed is going to mean more shots on target and more damage overall.
There is like a 40 percent reduction in damage for gimbal vs fixed. Any decent pilot should have no problem with fixed. Now for kenitic damage things change, if you are fighting condas and need to kill its FSD for a quick kill? Gimbal works great. But not needed.
Slick Reed I never said it was needed, just that you put more damage on target with it.
Slick Reed The benefit of gimballed though is you can get more than 40% more time on the target so the actual damage is higher. Unless you are a complete ace I wouldn't recommend any fixed weapon.
I haven't used gimbaled weapons since premium beat. With plenty of chaff onboard and on a class A fit viper, gimbaled weapons is basically a death ticket.
***** 40% is a big number, don't think it's nearly that much, but still doesn't out weight the dps cost of gimbaled.
Where do you buy all the modules you need? Most of the starports I stop at have a very limited selection, and I find myself searching all over to get what I want.
So I copied your loadout exactly for both Hardpoints and Internal equipment, but I am seeing a significant difference in the Power Use figures. On my viper it shows 9.76MW retracted, 13.22MW deployed while the Available is the same at 12.00MW. Has something changed in game since you made this video? Any thoughts on where I am going wrong?
man, what you know about that Sidewinder with all loaned parts? watch out Galaxy, i'm coming to get you. ;)
From what I have heard 1x class 2 beam has more dmg and generates less heat then 2x class 1. My viper is running 1 c2 beam, right side, right mouse button. Left mouse button all gimbaled multis.
Maybe something for you to test?
I always like to have my lasers on the bigger mounts in case I run out of ammo. Also why multicannons over say cannon?
Unrelated to this video, but could you do a quick guide on how best to sell a ship? I've heard so many different things as to how to go about it but it'd be great to know what the best way to get most or all of your Cr back is. Thanks!
went to sell my Cobra that has over 7.5 mil cr in it and I was only offered around 6. I've heard you lose 10% on anything you sell
Duf1091 You do lose some money when you sell ships. I tend to part exchange mine and save a bit extra credits up as well. So I can upgrade it too
Thank you, was talking with someone today who said that they sell the parts in outfitting then sell the ship naked.
I haven't tried that out. I just sold the ship out right. I'm assuming that the price for the ship and all it's components would be the same as if you sold it all individually.
Duf1091
You get 100% back for the internals if you sell them separately first(replace with cheapest available in cases where you must have a module). If you sell the ship with all the internals you purchased they will be subject to a 10% loss, the same as the ship.
Sell parts first, then the ship. It's a longer process, but when you're spending 1 million+ on internals, it's crazy to just chuck 10% of that away(unless you're swimming in credits and don't mind the hit).
I just bought the Cobra mk3 but I'm itching for that Viper.
Do you use all 4 weapons at once? I seem to be overheating, I'm using close to your load out. My Deployed is 11.28 and available is 12.00 so I'm even less then you. My lasers seem to overheat though when I have them all going (cannon and lasers). What am I doing wrong with power ?
I had a cobra for a while, but I recently started doing a lot of bounty hunting so I changed to a Viper and loaded it out. I have to tell you though that im switching back to cobra for dog fighting. For me, I like it more because you cant have any high rated weapons on a viper because it doesn't have enough power. Such a waste. Only reason why I even switched to a viper from a cobra was because of the small HP location on the cobra, its horrible placement, you can never hit anything with both small HP at the same time if they are not gimbaled because of how far away the weapons are from each other. I don't like gimbaled, I prefer fixed because I have pretty good aim and they have more damage. If only the viper had a better power plant to hold more powerful weapons, that would be perfect
softan cobra doesn't have higher rated shields, viper does. it has 140 shields and Cobra has 90. Also, one ship shields cant be stronger than the other. Its all based on Class and rank. class 3 A shields on one ship are exact same than class 3 A on another ship. Look it up.
its like that with everything... don't matter what ship you own, its all about ratings when it comes to outfitting.
I've just outfitted my Viper in exactly the same way you have but my power usage is different,
Retracted: 9.76 MW
Deployed: 13.22 MW
Have they changed stats in a recent patch?
Just askin is this loadout good if your going solo mode? (would go open but xbox community so far I've found to be toxic) 2 small multi cannons and 2 medium pusle lasers, I'm happy with my other modals but after watching others I'm not sure about my loadout, my MCS are on the small mount mainly due to the positioning which allows for more tot.
Can you do a combat outfitting video for the Cobra Mk. III?
Thanks for the quick reply!
Watched this looking for improvement tips on my current Viper.. Then as I was watching, realized I have already built this automatically.. XD
Why are you prices so much cheaper then what I'm getting? Which system are you in?
LoL Weapons wised, you've basically got the same load out as mine :)
I tried this loadout and am overpower..wonder if something changed.
Is this still relevant today? (only played ED for 18 hours now and just picked up my Viper Mk III
12.57MW deployed with 12MW available.
Will this be a huge issue when distributing power? Shouldn't the deployed power usage be lesser than the available?
Btw, is this a viper or cobra video?
Welcome back to elite dangerous and today im gonna show you how to outfit your cobra mk3 for combat! (lol i can see your preference!) jk
I run almost the same setup, nice ship!
Hey BG nice video thanks, I decided to copy this load out to get a good feel, so I have copied it exactly, except for life support D2 I only have standard, which is less load anyway, I am also lacking any chaff or point defence yet my deployed draw is 12.98 how is yours lower I also have a free x1 interior bay, this is using cargo scoop and FSD on Priority 2. have they altered that game settings since you made this?
David Slater
This is my current loadout
With cargo scoop, FSD & Fuel scoop at priority 2
[Viper]
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
S: 1E/F Beam Laser
S: 1E/F Beam Laser
U: 0E Kill Warrant Scanner
U: 0I Point Defence
BH: 1I Military Grade Composite
RB: 3A Power Plant
TM: 3A Thrusters
FH: 3A Frame Shift Drive
EC: 2E Life Support
PC: 3A Power Distributor
SS: 3D Sensors
FS: 2C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 4)
3: 2E Cargo Rack (Capacity: 4)
3: 3A Shield Generator
2: 2B Shield Cell Bank
1: 1A Fuel Scoop
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Shield: 178.50 MJ
Power : 10.04 MW retracted (84%)
12.90 MW deployed (108%)
12.00 MW available
Cargo : 4 T
Fuel : 4 T
Mass : 113.8 T empty
121.8 T full
Range : 13.09 LY unladen
12.66 LY laden
Price : 2,758,929 CR
Re-Buy: 137,946 CR @ 95% insurance
Which station did you find all these upgrades at?
got all the same loadout and my ship powered down everytime i activated the hardpoints. changed cargo and frameshift to two and it still powered down my ship. and i got killed too many times and my loan got maxed out so now i have to start over. tried to change things to two but it didnt work. so wtf did i do wrong???
where do you go for higher end outfitting? I'm in A. Lavigny Duval's Empire space.
I use Fabian city in HIP 20277 since not only does it have high end but u also get extra money for jobs and bountys
Where did you get the modules and weapons?
This is NOT an optimal combat setup, I'd say far from it
- 4 tons of fuel is an mistake take 2, and I frequently don't fill up more than 60% when going for combat
- FSD D rating clas 2 (did not see D class1, guess this would be better). If you intend to fight there is realy no need for jump range
- You don't need cargo space for fighting, you need frameshift interdictor and at least 2 shield cell banks
- You are quite good on weapons but your setup will not do to well in PVP as player tend to max out their's shields
I would propose 2xc1 Burst 1xc2 Beam 1xc2 Multi canon I run this Gimbled takes down shields and hull quite fast
- The utilities ... if you wan't to survive in a viper you MUST have 2x Chaff without that meeting a player in FDL or a vulture is a death sentence. With 2x Chaf and smart game play you can kill vultures and fend of FDL's
- Its worth taking mirrored surface, a lot of players run laser only setups - but if you meet somone with kinetic, dont let your shields go down
This is what I run right now
- 2xc1 gimbled Brust
- 1xc2 gimbled Beam
- 1xc2 gimbled Multicannon
- 2x chaff launcher
- Mirrored surface composite
- Power plant A3
- Thrusters A3
- Frame shift drive D2
- Life support D2
- Power Distributor A3
- Sensors D3
- Fuel tank 2 tones
- Shield Generator A3
- Shield cell bank A2
- Shield cell bank B2
- Frame shift intredictor
I still need to optimise the shield cell banks a bit, maybe get lower FSD, and life support if possible (?)
In this setup I can pull out 403 m/s or so (need to recheck), have fairly good firepower and thanks to chaff and small size am hard to hit.
+Shawn March will check him out - always looking for good viper drivers :)
As for the rest of our comment, I agree - it completely depends on the play style
+Przemysław Wilkutowski Actually, the video's loadout is really good. Today I have single-handedly destroyed 4 Federal Corvettes and 3 Anacondas. The only thing I changed, though, was the point defence. I found that using a chaff launcher (instead of a point defence), will scramble lasers when in battles like conflict zones. I also highly recommend adding the Empty internal space with another fuel module, as the viper guzzles a lot in one system.
Would this load out still be relevant today? I am very new to the game!
Man, how do you know so much about those fittings all ready? It'll take me years to get my head round all those fittings, just upgraded my fsd on the sidewinder and put on a bit more cargo space. The viper seems like months away for me but all good advice just hope it's all not nerfed before I get there :)
It shouldn't take you that long to get to a cobra or viper. Next ship I suggest getting is the adder and skip the hauler. Adder has pretty decent cargo space and you can upgrade it to bounty hunt as well.
flyinginabluedre
Thanks for heads up, have just enough for adder now with some free credits left in my glove compartment, how much does it cost to fit it for a hauler in the first instance?
The adder has an extra type 2 compartment which you can use for cargo space. I never had a hauler so I wouldn't know how much it would all cost.
I would use your sidey to exchange with the adder, should give you some extra credits to play around with. I'm pretty sure the 8 rack cargo space which goes into the type 3 internal slot only costs around 10K So it wouldn't be that much
If you're interested. I had a type 2 gimballed multi-cannon on top and two type 1 non-gimballed beam lasers on the bottom. Also whist not as fast as a cobra, it out maneuvers it any day.
Sorry for the essay, thought all of this might help.
Question: How much did your loadout cost you?
Awesome fit
why did you have your lasers on fixed instead of gimballed. I know that they are a lot cheaper and they won't be annoyed by the Chaff. But I'm just wondering if there are any other reasons?
Fixed are also significantly more powerful.
So how do you set up your fire groups?
great vid. is this still relevant now though? Vulture seems to be better although obviously a lot more money.
A Vulture can still be stripped by a Viper. It's all upon skill. ;)
how do you have 12.54mw I have 13. something and soon as I shoot it weps power down and afterburner
Thx for sharing CMDR
Only thing i noticed wrong with your loadout is the deployed power is more than the available power..
burtoner all you do is set it in another power group or turn off ur cargo hatch.
crsarellano Yeah did this last night, didn't know you could do that :)
burtoner Set priority for FSD and cargo hatch to 2 and they won't draw from the power plant when hard points are out, allowing you to deploy hard points without exceeding your power rating
Had the exact same weapons set up, but switched to all fixed lasers so I wouldn't have to restock ammo when bounty hunting : o Not yet sure how much of a problem I wil now have with elite anacondas though.
Anacondas will destroy you if you don't have multi cannons. Lasers are good for shields but you need cannons for big ships like condas
Yeah I switched back to multicannons after getting killed by a conda xD
Hi mate! I chose the same loadout but when I want to power my weapons the ship shuts down as I don't seem to have enough power. I checked your video again and you also seem not to have enough energy (12.57MW needed vs. 12MW available), how are you dealing with that in game?
Mumba Mumba You can change the priority of what modules get powered and which ones don't when you overload the system. So you can set your cargo hatch and other things you don't generally need in combat to power down when you power up your weapons.
Mumba Mumba Something has changed since this video was made. This loadout is no longer possible. I followed it word for word, set the cargo hatch and FSD to priority 2, but I'm sitting at 9.76 retracted and 13.22 deployed. Sorry mate.
+Ghostwish11 Strange. I think you might have made a mistake somewhere. Double check the targeting on your hardpoints. I've just outfitted this setup.
***** no it is true this loadout isnt working anymore
*****
Multiple folks have confirmed it doesn't work. I think what they upped was the shield cell banks.
My ship somehow uses a lot more power. Im in 13 mw territory if i use the same stuff. Either something was changed or I'm overlooking something.
Marco Pfeiffer I have the same problem. I keep checking to make sure that I have the same stuff, it just seems that his stuff is more efficient.
hi boden just wondering if you still use your twitter? It is full with random writing in another language and im wondering if it is you
which starport near sol can i buy all this ?
the viper was great in elite 2 but this viper i'm not so sure. i've taken down a few vipers in my type 6 transporter
So... anyone else noticed that deployed power usage is higher than available power usage?
He puts cargo hatch and fsd to priority 2, so they don't draw any power while hardpoints are deployed.
ahhh he said it in the beginning. kk thx
could you please mention tthe total cost of the load out?
***** Well......sorry for being deaf. :D
Has it lost mass? Mines max 120.0t.. I'm confused??
ahh thrusters increase total mass :)
how do you build up your mass to 180T my viper is only 120T?
+Brian Painter Upgrade your Thrusters to A3
and how you play you only got 12.00MW but deploy you are at 12.57MW ? when im over that i cant do anything i only can get 11.00 where can i find a A3 power plant
LiptonPRODUCTIONSx you can set priorities on the modules section on the right console these determine what order they turn off to conserve power. Set things you wont need while in weapons are deployed to 3 or higher (for example a docking computer or that frame shift interrupter). They'll turn back on when weapons are detracted.
Still gives that annoying message everytime though :/
ah oke thanks :P
Is says that your over your power when weapons are deployed with that loadout
You can disable or change priority for certain modules to mitigate power drain.
Ahhhh see thanks for that i just started playing this game a week ago i love the game and i also have a viper thanks for the advice
Anyone else lose everything in their cargo hold due to a glitch? Now I'm broke in a Type 6 and have zero confidence that my ticket will be seen.
Well they still haven't responded to me and I've already nearly gotten all mine back now. I think it may have been my fault after all losing my cargo, but I'm not sure exactly how.
seancpcp They are responding to the tickets on an individual basis and I'm sure they'll come around to you soon.
Guys do you have any advice on making some cash so I can outfit my ship??? trade as it is now is 10 hours searching for a route and 5 hours using it making 500k-1mil, the time I need to invest just to find a decent trade rout is incredibly frustrating to the point where am simply thinking of quitting the game and coming back a year from now where hopefully some working trade tools are available ingame.
If anyone has an tips that can help then please give me something, even by PM.
I've found bounty hunting best method for me. Yesterday, ran the scenario: weak signal source, jumped in, gold canister - a trap! Then, 5 pirates attacked, eagles and cobras. Killed them, meanwhile green ships jumped in to help me. Then I see: Anaconda wanted pirate! Targeted power plant, killed it. Bah, 245 000 credits from bounties for 6 pirate ships! Also found in strong signal sources: sometimes there are big ships fighting, you can get in and kill 180k bounty anaconda there! Of course, if these big ships targeting you - turbo and jump out, no problem for quick, mighty viper. You can't win against 3 anacondad at once though.Btw. first 300k I've earned by bounty hunting with Sidewinder. Small, agile, deadly.
Aleksander K
Am thinking of going full bounty hunting, though it might not yield as much as trade its allot more fun, at least until they get proper trade tools working in the game (the ability to check supply and demand remotely most importantly) which I hope soon.
DK988 I'm pretty sure that trading is more profitable, you have to use internet tools.
However, yesterday I did the assasination mission first time. Yield: over 400k credits for killing lone anaconda. It was 198k for mission and 211k bounty in system faction.
Aleksander K Thats the thing, internet tools are based on information provided by players, so its not very accurate since supply and demand is always changing, you can cross 200 lyrs only to find that the profit the internet tools calculated is halved.
I don't get why remote market info is not available it is available today so it makes even more sense to have it in the year 3000.
Well anyway till they get something like that implemented trade will always be 70% looking through the internet tools and the other 30% doing the trade, so I'll go bounty hunting since its more fun.
Btw from your experience what is a good ship for bounty hunting? I have an asp and around 7 mil in the bank I'd rather not sell the asp since I use it for trade every now and then so do you have any recommendations on ships that I can get for around 6 mil?
ScareCrow -
That comment is 6 months old, things are better now but am still hoping for the in game trade tools to be improved.
Why fixed?
CarnivorousCookie Lower power draw, plus it forces you to get better at chasing in fights.
TheLordMaitreya Thank you!
anyone recommend a good station to outfit your viper?
If you're going for Multi-Cannons, I heard Styx has some that are overcharged
got the same loadout and this ship sucks. can't bounty hunt because i get blown up everytime, even when im with allied policeforce and allied anaconda's. after the horizon realese and the updates after that the game is trash. can't earn money on it with bounty hunting. game was epic at first but now it is trash....
Not a very good pvp load, that's for sure.
This loadout hasn't worked for two patches now. Take this video down.