It's definitely a 16-bit console since it has a 16 GPU (graphics processing unit). When the average person use to refer to a console as a 16-bit console back in the day, it was referring to it's GRAPHICAL power. Yeah, it has an 8-bit CPU, but it's the 16-bit GPU which makes it capable of producing 16-bit looking games that officially makes the Turbografx-16 a 16-bit console. NEC made a huge deal about how the Turbografx-16 had 16-bit graphics during it's commercials. Look up the American Turbografx-16 commercial to China Warrior for a prime example where they put China Warrior side by side with the NES game Kung-Fu during the commercial and they make a HUGE deal over how China Warrior has 16-bit graphics and Kung-Fu has inferior 8-bit graphics. Also, I got into the Turbo VERY late into it's life when it's entire branding was rebranded as the TURBO DUO. By 1993, in a desperate attempt to stay relevant, they entirely dropped the Turbografx-16 branding and rebranded everything as Turbo Duo to the point where the later released Turbo games do NOT have the Turbografx-16 logo on their boxes and instead have the large TURBO DUO logo on them. See the box art to games like John Madden Duo CD Football and Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure and Riot Zone and other later released games for details (strangely, they left the Turbografx-16 logo on the physical Hucard of Bonk 3, despite the CD and Hucard versions of the Bonk 3 box / case having only the very large Turbo Duo logo on them). During 1993 my mom was buying me almost EVERY video game console. (she was divorced from my dad and was "competing" with him in a weird way and me getting an avalanche of video games from her that he couldn't get was an example of that. LMAO) and the Turbo Duo (which was a console which combined the Turbografx-16 and Turbo CD into one unit) was one of them and she got me several games (all with the Turbo Duo logo on them). I didn't start to get the older Turbografx-16 branded games till later on when I wanted to get the earlier Bonk games and others. At that point, during 1994, almost all the games were on clearance prices for $10 each since the Turbo Duo didn't sell well (the rebranding didn't work) and by early 1994 it was over for them.
I remember playing Last Alert as a kid and at the time, I didn't think the voice dialog was cheesy or bad. It was pretty normal fare at those times if you compared it to the vast majority of B rate actions movies. Cheesy one liners, bad accents, and the 1 man vs everyone plot was like every action movie through the 80s and early 90s.
I own both these games, but didn't get them until way later in life. I remember magazines talking about YS and showing screen shots and wanting to play it so, so badly. When I eventually did, it was worth the wait. YS is my personal favorite game series. A good part of the reason is the music. I mean YS 1 and 2 the music was made by Yuzo Koshiro who in that era also did the soundtracks for Revenge of Shinobi and the Streets of Rage games on Sega Genesis as well as Actraiser on Super Nintendo. Dude's a legend. But the later YS games without him are just insane. Look up Ys: Ark of Napishtim Opening for music that sounds like it's from another planet.
I had the TG-16 in 1990 for about a year before I got a SNES. Great console and those cards felt so futuristic! The CD expansion was a non-starter though, for sure. If we had that kind of money, I think most American kids would opt for a Neo Geo over that in the early 90s, no question.
There are a couple of issues here....the TG-16 was not a mid generation console. It was released one week after the Sega Genesis in 1989. The PC Engine was in a way. However, despite the 8-bit CPU, its architecture was definitely 4th generation. This was also done long before consoles were categorized into generations but I digress... The TG-16 CD ROM ROM (yes, twice) and Sega CD were very different add-ons. The TG-16 CD really only added extra storage and RAM (System Card). The Sega CD added another faster Motorola 68K, RAM, and an ASCII chip for real hardware scaling, rotation, spite manipulation, ect...
If you want to look at some more CD games, Final Zone II, Very similar playstyle to Last Alert. Beyond Shadowgate and Dungeon Explorer II, For a JRPG look at the First, that I know of, in the still running Legend of Heros series, Dragon Slayer. Apart from Final Zone 2, the others are good games, Shadowgate is a hybrid action/point and click adventure, while Loom is a full point and click taking advantage of the CD audio. Multiple Console releases to compare Shadow of the Beast, Exile, Sherlock Holmes(FMV) Might & Magic III. For early 1990's FMV weird Look at It Came From the Desert.
the thing that sucks about Y's, is its like OMG the music, then you get to the gameplay and it drops to like atari 2600 mechanics, you just run into enemies LOL almost seems like they ran out of time developing the game or couldnt program real fight mechanics so they just went with "you just walk into enemies to fight". Dont forget with the turbografx, its the 1st system that required you to buy a 4 player adapter to play 2 players LMFAOOOOO, let that statement sink in.
@@JaronThomson back then i barely knew about the turbografx, think i heard about it in like EGM looking in magazines at readers world back in the day, but i never saw the games or system in person back then. nintendo and genesis just stole the show
good case for the japanese mentality study, they can be so weird, and so creative in that weird kind of way...maybe because all that stuff doesn't mean much to them, all the western ideas, so they just improvise
So doesn't mean I haven't played it or can't have an opinion about it. The amazing thing about emulation and Mister project is that anyone can go back and play these games
YT is really bad about deleting comments or hiding them. It happens all over the place. The comment system is "heavily" biased toward "echo chamber" so if you say something that the "auto bot" does not approve of for that content or channel it will just yoink or refuse to even post your comment. You are not alone.
Dude I always loved you you're the red-haired kid from The sandlot you've aged really well
Okay.....
You play ball like a girl.
@@JaronThomson you are killing me smalls
The TurboExpress was my first portable console. Loved that it used the full games and not another completely different formfactor.
The Turbo Express is so cool
New subscriber here due to the love you gave to the TurboGrafx CD. Great video.
Hell yeah
It's definitely a 16-bit console since it has a 16 GPU (graphics processing unit). When the average person use to refer to a console as a 16-bit console back in the day, it was referring to it's GRAPHICAL power. Yeah, it has an 8-bit CPU, but it's the 16-bit GPU which makes it capable of producing 16-bit looking games that officially makes the Turbografx-16 a 16-bit console. NEC made a huge deal about how the Turbografx-16 had 16-bit graphics during it's commercials. Look up the American Turbografx-16 commercial to China Warrior for a prime example where they put China Warrior side by side with the NES game Kung-Fu during the commercial and they make a HUGE deal over how China Warrior has 16-bit graphics and Kung-Fu has inferior 8-bit graphics.
Also,
I got into the Turbo VERY late into it's life when it's entire branding was rebranded as the TURBO DUO.
By 1993, in a desperate attempt to stay relevant, they entirely dropped the Turbografx-16 branding and rebranded everything as Turbo Duo to the point where the later released Turbo games do NOT have the Turbografx-16 logo on their boxes and instead have the large TURBO DUO logo on them. See the box art to games like John Madden Duo CD Football and Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure and Riot Zone and other later released games for details (strangely, they left the Turbografx-16 logo on the physical Hucard of Bonk 3, despite the CD and Hucard versions of the Bonk 3 box / case having only the very large Turbo Duo logo on them).
During 1993 my mom was buying me almost EVERY video game console.
(she was divorced from my dad and was "competing" with him in a weird way and me getting an avalanche of video games from her that he couldn't get was an example of that. LMAO)
and the Turbo Duo (which was a console which combined the Turbografx-16 and Turbo CD into one unit) was one of them and she got me several games (all with the Turbo Duo logo on them). I didn't start to get the older Turbografx-16 branded games till later on when I wanted to get the earlier Bonk games and others. At that point, during 1994, almost all the games were on clearance prices for $10 each since the Turbo Duo didn't sell well (the rebranding didn't work) and by early 1994 it was over for them.
SNES CPU is also 8 bit externally. And SNES cartridges are 8 bit. So..
I remember playing Last Alert as a kid and at the time, I didn't think the voice dialog was cheesy or bad. It was pretty normal fare at those times if you compared it to the vast majority of B rate actions movies. Cheesy one liners, bad accents, and the 1 man vs everyone plot was like every action movie through the 80s and early 90s.
I own both these games, but didn't get them until way later in life. I remember magazines talking about YS and showing screen shots and wanting to play it so, so badly. When I eventually did, it was worth the wait. YS is my personal favorite game series. A good part of the reason is the music. I mean YS 1 and 2 the music was made by Yuzo Koshiro who in that era also did the soundtracks for Revenge of Shinobi and the Streets of Rage games on Sega Genesis as well as Actraiser on Super Nintendo. Dude's a legend. But the later YS games without him are just insane. Look up Ys: Ark of Napishtim Opening for music that sounds like it's from another planet.
Pc engine have tons of great bullet hell games
Yeah Lords of Thunder owns
I had the TG-16 in 1990 for about a year before I got a SNES. Great console and those cards felt so futuristic! The CD expansion was a non-starter though, for sure. If we had that kind of money, I think most American kids would opt for a Neo Geo over that in the early 90s, no question.
There are a couple of issues here....the TG-16 was not a mid generation console. It was released one week after the Sega Genesis in 1989. The PC Engine was in a way. However, despite the 8-bit CPU, its architecture was definitely 4th generation. This was also done long before consoles were categorized into generations but I digress...
The TG-16 CD ROM ROM (yes, twice) and Sega CD were very different add-ons. The TG-16 CD really only added extra storage and RAM (System Card). The Sega CD added another faster Motorola 68K, RAM, and an ASCII chip for real hardware scaling, rotation, spite manipulation, ect...
In North America they came out together but in Japan the PC engine came out in 1987
If you want to look at some more CD games, Final Zone II, Very similar playstyle to Last Alert. Beyond Shadowgate and Dungeon Explorer II, For a JRPG look at the First, that I know of, in the still running Legend of Heros series, Dragon Slayer.
Apart from Final Zone 2, the others are good games,
Shadowgate is a hybrid action/point and click adventure, while Loom is a full point and click taking advantage of the CD audio.
Multiple Console releases to compare Shadow of the Beast, Exile, Sherlock Holmes(FMV) Might & Magic III.
For early 1990's FMV weird Look at It Came From the Desert.
It came from the desert is such a good time
Damn, i didnt realize you were the sandlot guy
I'm still trying to figure out what the comment is all about lol
You've gotta really good voice for these kind of videos
hey! you left out one of Guy Kazama's best lines: "it's going to be be YOUR blood! not mine!"
PC engine so good
Most played the games on emulation
the thing that sucks about Y's, is its like OMG the music, then you get to the gameplay and it drops to like atari 2600 mechanics, you just run into enemies LOL
almost seems like they ran out of time developing the game or couldnt program real fight mechanics so they just went with "you just walk into enemies to fight".
Dont forget with the turbografx, its the 1st system that required you to buy a 4 player adapter to play 2 players LMFAOOOOO, let that statement sink in.
Yeah NEC was definitely going crazy with the expensive accessories lol not to mention the turbo Express
@@JaronThomson back then i barely knew about the turbografx, think i heard about it in like EGM looking in magazines at readers world back in the day, but i never saw the games or system in person back then. nintendo and genesis just stole the show
good case for the japanese mentality study, they can be so weird, and so creative in that weird kind of way...maybe because all that stuff doesn't mean much to them, all the western ideas, so they just improvise
Dude you weren't even born when it came out!
So doesn't mean I haven't played it or can't have an opinion about it. The amazing thing about emulation and Mister project is that anyone can go back and play these games
"You wasn't even there" lol
People don't need to be gatekeeping, that's how people get turned off from the hobby.
Listen up all you historians, you have absolutely no right to be talking about history, you wasn't even there.
Bro are you deleting comments? I saw my reply disappear.
I definitely didn't however in RUclips studio it reports I have more comments that I can't read not sure what's going on
YT is really bad about deleting comments or hiding them. It happens all over the place. The comment system is "heavily" biased toward "echo chamber" so if you say something that the "auto bot" does not approve of for that content or channel it will just yoink or refuse to even post your comment. You are not alone.
It's RUclips censoring you for "whatever" reason. It's happening to everyone, not just you or this channel.
RUclips censors anything with links or certain blacklisted words.
"This VA is racist" No.
Nobody should care, but using "of all time" to refer to a medium which has only existed a few decades is a pet peeve of mine.