Bill Wyman leaving The Rolling Stones w/ Jagger & Richards (1993)
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- Bill Wyman talks about leaving The Rolling Stones after 31 years. Also with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards on this subject. Broadcast on MTV in January 1993. (I do not own any copyrights)
Bill & Charlie were one of the best rhythm sections in rock. They had chemistry together
AGREED
Absolutely!
Charlie said he had also a good feeling with Darryl Jones.
I agree 😢
@SunnyDaze-uq8ed You missed the interview where Charlie said that clearly, maybe.
They had been together 30 years at that point, and that point was 30 years ago from now!
I know crazy
28 years
According to Keith's reactions he considered Bill Wyman's leaving as a disaster for the band. Very open and honest. Mick talks diplomaticly in a matter of fact way. But later Bill revealed Mick and Charlie had come to his home and almost begged him to stay...
Hello. Im not sure Keith Richards is genuine there. I read his autobiography and Bill hardly gets a mention. And when he is discussed, Keith is brutally dismissive. On the other hand, in Bill Wyman's "Stone Alone", Keith is warmly credited very early in the book. They started to fall out when Exile On Main Street took them to a sunny, Keith-led prison, where Bill and Mick T started to question where this was all heading. Bill felt increasingly under-valued; he isnt charismatic or extrovert, preferring his (imnense) bass skills to do his talking
I love how Keef just gives Keef answers.
"Aarghasdashjh close to midnight aaraarghgghgh"
The man will outlive us all.
Bill Wyman is smart! 31 years is enough! He’s enjoying his retirement and even had his own restaurant!
That's so cool
How cool is that .
Owning one’s own restaurant sounds like too much work for me.
Bill also formed a band called the Rythym Kings, produced albums and performed live with them.
Thankfully, Mick, Keith, and Charlie never felt that way as being at a Rolling Stones concert is still the best place to be in the universe whenever, and wherever they are on stage.
Bill looks younger than Mick and Kieth here and if I remember correctly he’s about 6 or 7 years older than them
I love Bill Wyman. A class guy.
man, Keith just doesnt want to let go. Can't blame him; Bill and Charlie really impact the sound of the band.
True2
When Bill first told the Stones that he was thinking about quitting, Keith responded with: "Nobody leaves this band!" He saw it as a betrayal of the gang mentality of the Stones.
@@RobinSchoutenRS You can tell though from Keith's body language he's sad about it. Very rare vulnerability. The fact that they kept the news officially under wraps for 3 years, and repeatedly tried getting him to stay for that long (probably putting off a next tour/album on hold) says a lot.
But Keith was really bad with Mick Taylor
Bill Wyman cannot and was not replaced his bass playing is so unique even sloppy but a big part of why their albums are shit now
They have NEVER been the same without Bill.
or without Taylor
I agree 😢
Bill,Taylor,Charlie
@@josepharnone6842 and never forget Ian. if they thought they had a song complete. let Ian listen, if he gave thumbs down, it was not questions, back to working on it
The band must goes on and does it well, thanks they're still on the road.
Mick says, "we'll miss Bill, but we'll get someone good." Probably said the same thing when they "fired" Brian Jones--you know, they guy who started the Stones and gave them their name.
Only cause he had a Muddy Water Album just under the eyes when he had to give a name.
Love Bill's bass playing!
Not taking anything away from Brian Jones, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts and Ronnie Wood but in my humble opinion both Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor were the best sounding players in the band's rhythm section. Every great band's peak era has great regular bass players. The Beatles Paul McCartney, Cream's Jack Bruce, The Who's John Entwistle, Led Zeppelin's John Paul Jones, Van Halen's Michael Anthony.
Keith was always there to keep the stones together!
… Let’s never ever forget that!!!!
With all of the out of control egos and Irving Azoff types taking advantage of that (while making millions) trading our Icons for his fabricated versions of legacy groups it’s good to know that someone had the inner strength to at least try to keep things going.
There are so many things the general public does not know about Keith Richards and his unmatched level of sincerity.
I personally know people who are close with the family and he is definitely worth every ounce Of credit he gets an even 10 times more.
You are the best of the best Keith and one day when this generation has passed it will be well known!
We all know that it's Keith who makes the music. All of us who know anything about The Rolling Stones, that is.
He certainly keep Stones together during his 10 junky years, Jagger saved the Stones at this time.
Wyman Sees life in a holistic perspective. Don’t spend your whole life doing the same things.
Nothing against Darryl Jones, but I sure miss Bill. The sound and feel has never been quite the same since he left, and the change wasn't for the better. But hey, we're still lucky to have the band (mostly) around.
Charlie was very satisfied to play with Darryl.
Thanks for Charlie a very smart guy
Charlie also said that he didn't realise how good Bill was until he went over the songs they had played together with Darryl "Plunker" Jones. Bill was standing 3 feet from Charlie for _30_ years. One jazzer in a rock 'n roll band is enough. Since Bill left, the bass has just been...there.@@Methilde
The Stones are arguably the greatest of all time or the greatest rock'roll band in the world,but everything great changes over time and sometimes disappears all together,the story of all history,thanks Bill Wyman for your contributions to musical history!what goes up must come down and all great things come to a end at some point,good luck Bill Wyman.
Some people don't last 5 years in the music business let alone 30!! Good innings Bill.
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@@iansmith8263 Gayer.
bill's recordings with the 'rhythm kings' are stellar.
Simply amazing! Imagine if they had been performing in whatever capacity for "30 years" in '93, in 2021 they've been at it for somewhere around 58 years! Lickily I got 3rd row scalped tockets to see them in '82 or'83. They did not disappoint! Incredible.
I wish Bill Wyman would do a final farewell tour with the Stones in 2022. along with Mick Taylor, even if it doesn't turn out to be there last tour.
40 years that the Stones do a final farewell tour. And it goes on and on and on 😋
They all have to be there!
I think you will find that moment has passed, As for the Stones, maybe when we think it's ok to go back on the road, too much time has passed. Will Charly want to do it? Will Ronnie be fit enough? Perhaps in the end it has taken a pandemic to stop the Stones.
@@christophernye1970 think again
They are touring now (July 2022) in Europe without Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman.
And yet, they invited him for their 50 years tour but only allowed him to pplay 2 songs and didn't want him to play more. So much for "good friends"....
And not even on songs on which he is prominent ffs....I mean, Bill wasn't even on the original cut of IORR!
Yeah they f***ed him over.
The thing with Bill is that he had to swallow many bitter chalices insuring his tenure with the Stones. I mean, in 31 years he sneaked in 1 song only, “In another land”, a fine work indeed, but he did so only because the album which contains it, “Their satanic majesties request”, was made under horrific circumstances, with Mick and Keith’s Redlands bust, then Brian’s own drug bust, and the Beatles having changed the landscape with “Sgt Pepper’s”, so the Stones where crying for new material. Plus, he had to suffer the ignominy of having Stones songs released where he wasn’t even playing bass himself. Keith would just record a cut with him playing bass and would say: “that’s it!”. And of course, how many years he had to go to band meetings and just shut up, knowing his opinion would be overruled? He looked like a peach job, but it was, in reality, full of affronts. He remains one of the finest bass players ever, one of the few who really traced the guidelines for modern bass playing, and he left when they started to turn into self-parody. Good on him!
In the real early days he would sing backup. I read somewhere that the last time he sang backup live was the 67 tour of Europe. I wonder why they stopped using him. I always wondered if Mick and Keith purposefully pushed him aside to give themselves more glory.
I believe there is a song on Metamorphosis that he wrote.
@@ericdailey8587 Yeah, Bill was a lot more animated in the early years. It appears that by the time of Beggars Banquet, he and Charlie had realised they were effectively sidemen and that Jagger and Richards were running the show. Hence they receded into the background and focused more on locking in and working their magic.
@@ericdailey8587 The song was called "Downtown Suzie."
That “self-parody” went on to play even better without Bill. He could’ve been a part of that growth with that version of the band, but he chose not to. And that’s fine, he was five years older than Charlie. Plus, he had going that yucky relationship with Mandy Smith. He wanted to have more kids and not be preoccupied with such a big commitment like the Stones.
And let’s not pretend like Bill didn’t take a backseat to a superior rhythm player in Keith on those tracks.
Why do people keep bringing up the whole Mandy Smith thing when it comes to Bill's musicianship? IMO Keith's "living on the edge" lifestyle was far more dangerous an example to the kids than whatever shenanigans Bill got up to behind closed doors. It's not relevant to the music at all and none of our business really. Also, "better" is subjective. With Bill gone they rocked harder for sure, but to me the Stones weren't really a "rock" band. Sure their songs get you pumped, but they were all about the groove, the _feel._ Bill took that with him when he left. And honestly, listen to the Ya-Ya's rendition of Sympathy for the Devil, blows the studio version out of the water and leaves the Keith groupies crying on the scorched earth below lol. @@ArmandoMPR
30 years later, they still haven't found one
When bill left,the roll left
The amazing Rolling Stones.............awesome
Bill!!!!
@@iansmith8263 Hey Ian ...
@@iansmith8263 Get some content on your channel !!!
That was the first really nice response from Keith and Mick.
I met Bill Wyman at a Stones concert in New Orleans and he wasn’t into all that groupie stuff hanging out in the lobby. Seemed like a nice chap. 30 years is a long stint to play or be in any kind of relationship. 💥
Nice response from Mick? He virtually says that Bill is replaceable 😅
@@user-li3fr8jl3b Bill himself said that anyone is replaceable, except Mick, of course
For the groupies Bill was the more interrested since the beginnings.
I respect Bill Wyman very much and find him to have much integrity and depth as an artist and a human being.
I have a feeling that Bill would have the same opinion of u
@@iansmith8263 🤣🤣🤣
Execpted his taste for the very young girls.
@SunnyDaze-uq8ed Anyone knows that execpt you. He meet Mandy his 18 years wife when she was 14 yrars old.
I've wondered why they didn't put Ronnie Wood on bass. He did an outstanding job with Jeff Beck.
Then they would have to find a new guitar player!!
@@fortunatoofamontillado1059 Good bass players are hard to find and Ronnie is one of them. Lots of guitar men (and women) around but much as l like Ronnie I don't think he's made the kind of difference Mick Taylor made. But hand him a bass and step back.
@@talbotsplace7316 In the late 60s to mid 70s it was Richards that recorded most of the bass tracks for the band .. Wyman only played them live>
you moron, Bill left 18 years after Ronnie was hired as a Guitar player!
@@fortunatoofamontillado1059 He recorded several, not most. Bill got tired of hanging out until midnight just to get started, so he often wasn't around when Keith wanted a bass line. But hey, Keith is a great bassist, too. But he often recorded dozens of times before he got what he wanted. Bill was a bit more efficient, but Keith laid down some great bass tracks.
Who would think Bill is 6 years older than Keith & Mick
He looked way younger than them at that moment.
@@augustopasquier7895 it's crazy how much older he looks now
The others did a lot of drugs, Bill stayed away from it for the most part
bill is elvis's age
Actually 7
But Daryl jones never officially replaced him like entwhistle like Bonham I dont think you could really replace bill what a great musician
Right. Bill is a Stone. Daryl does a great job. Just wish we had more time with Bill.
Two words for the Stones, Mick fuckin Taylor!!!!!! Stones lost so much when he left like epic guitar work that the other guys have to copy!
@@deveryshepardson3640 Yep, best era!
So very true, thats why bill never was replaced officially...he cant be replaced, stood far too long . Thats why any pictures with the band there is just the four of them, not five.
@@deveryshepardson3640 hell yeah he was superb
I understand where Bill is coming from, i mean like he said, he wanted to venture out and try other things and do stuff that maybe he felt he couldnt do while he was with the Rolling Stones. Although they’re still a wonderful band and they have a terrific bassist, I personally think that its just not quite the same without Bill filling in the second half of the rhythm section with his counterpart Charlie! I mean Bill was an under rated player and did his job very well! You could depend on him and he held it down. He was always my favorite Stone even though he left and yes i am biased because i am a bassist, go figure.
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@@unagjac890 thanks!
@@Shepthebassman91 np
Not the same band without Bill.
Bill was such a huge part of the sound, his basslines just absolutely make a lot of stones tunes, Sympathy is a great example, Darrel does a fantastic job though, he's probably been with them for near 30 years himself now
You know Keith plays bass on that?
@@willnash8614 I do know lol
Made it sound 10 x better in a live setting though.@@willnash8614
This was a sad time for me. Love Bill, but the Stones march on....
rumour has it that Wyman almost changed his mind bcuz of your sadness over the matter
Best bass player ever, I have bills autograph in he's book,stone alone,I'll treasure it for ever
The others often wiped his parts and overdubbed, he waits hours for Keith to show up when he was in H...who can blame him?
Bill seemed disinterested in the Stones music several years before departing. He didn't want to play music he didn't like anymore and had a genuine fear of flying. Plus, the man is unbelievably intelligent and pursued personal interests, such as photography and treasure detecting (he even developed his own metal detectors). He's hobnobbed with the artist community for multiple decades now. Therefore, he got out at the right time, but the Stones could have done more to welcome him back at specific periods. Bill was integral in their sound and deserved more respect. The real fans know the truth, however.
He was studying engineering before joining the Stones.
End of story. He can do what he feels is best for himself. I'm sure it's an experence he would never trade for anything. Stones tours has to be just grueling the older you get. Also after learning so much more about him he had different tastes he and Brian Jones are very good friends Ryan Jones did a lot for the Rolling Stones that early music was Brian's . Bill seems well educated and a great guy. Seems Mick took it very personal
Mick was angry 4 sure. Never got over it
I love how they never “really know” why anyone leaves - Wyman, Taylor. It’s always “Oy don’t really know. You’ll have ask him.”
Slick Dagger - best toupe' in show biz. Period.
No one knows this but Keith did the voice of mumbles in the Dick Tracy cartoon back in the day Lol
To think Bill Wyman turned 84 in October of 2020, he's 6 or 7 years older than the rest of his band mates. He didn't quit he just couldn't take all the riggers of touring with The Rolling Stones anymore and he retired. One of the funniest things I remember reading was when he was leaving Keith threatened Bill by telling him that he was going to replace him with a chick - LOL ! Anyway, Darryl Jones worked out pretty good.
Frank Theo That's pretty damn funny; hadn't heard that!
@@jeffstipp6872 I was 15 when I saw the Stones in 1975 @ MSG Keith & The Wino's on Keith's birthday in NJ 1988, and the Stones Steel Wheels @ Shea Stadium in1989. Throughout all those years there were rumors of Bill leaving the band, and every now and then someone would ask him if he was leaving and Wyman would find the question amusing and blow it off. I remember when he announced his retirement to the the band right after Flashpoint was released. That Keith quote always stood out in my mind when Bill gave The Rolling Stones his two Weeks Notice and left on good terms. Retirement has been very good to Billy. He's Got The Greatest Pension Plan In The World. Yep, Peace.
@@franktheo2055 Frank, thank you for the funny "Keith quote". Now I'll give you one! When Bill left the band; a journalist asked Keith if the Stones were done. Keith said "the Stones ain't gonna end because a fucking BASS player leaves. Now if CHARLIE left then yeah, the band's done but the Rolling Stones ain't over because of a bass player." That's so cool that you saw Keef on his birthday! I saw the Wino's in 1988; the Stones in '89 and '94 at the Oakland Coliseum. Peace, Frank!
@@jeffstipp6872 Amazing, but very true.
@@jeffstipp6872 Watts can be replaced. He is as good as Ringo was...."can do the job".
Bill left because being in a band with mick would suck.
Bill was closer to Jagger than you believe, there is a very funny video in a kind of museum with them and recorded session like "Heaven" toghether.
All 11 times I've seen The Rolling Stones..... Darrel has rocked. And so did Steve the last 3 times.
60 years now wow.
... we'll get someone good"...
Gets a bass player with more music in his pinky than the whole band...
Regardless, DJ is great, should be promoted to Stone.
...And who didn't even get into rock 'n roll until he was in his late 20s, according to interviews.
Letting Charlie pick the replacement was a mistake. Oh well, the Stones are set in their ways, we're stuck with Darryl "Ain't got no soul for Rock 'n Roll" Jones plunking around, meandering at the bottom, never making an emotional connection.
@@septimiusseverus343couldn't afford tickets?
@@richinoable Oh, I see........yeah, yeah, good one. I think I cracked a rib from laughing so hard.
Crazy. They were just approaching 50 at this point.
and...that's crazy how?...................
And indeed they got a great replacement...
Who
Hard to believe DJ has played bass for the Stones now longer than Bill did.
DJ will match Bills time in only 3 years! God, I always remembered the 90's as a recent decade but it's getting older and older.
@Monsieur Tarzan I looked it up amd you're right. I could have SWORN Bigger Bang was released in 2012!
Yale Baker got his math wrong or something. What a dufus, tryna be clever and fucks it up.
@@iansmith8263 Bill Wyman played for the Stones from the time of their inception in 1962 until the end of the Steel Wheels tour in 1990, a period of 28 years. Darryl Jones has played with the Stones since 1993, a period of 28 years. I didn’t fuck up the math and I wasn’t trying to be clever I was just stating facts. I’m a goddamn genius you limey squid.
@@yalebaker7976 Darryl started playing with the Stones in 1994
i saw them twice in 81
The Rolling Stones audial signature changed when Bill Wyman left.
To lose a superlative in a musical ensemble, has collateral consequences.
my idol
I don't think Mick and Keith really gave Bill much recognition until the day he said he's gonna leave the band.
There are things you could do in your 20's or 30's which can't do in your 70's or 80's.
Bill just thought of doing something different in latter years, and not tour as much.
He could have still be in the band if the rest could tone down their act and still rock.
Do smaller stages, like Mark Knoffler is doing, and still enjoy performing to crowds.
Rolling Stones have nothing else to prove to the world that they are a great live concert band....but doing the same big shows as old men is a bit embarassing imho
I think what he should of done was just retire from touring but still maybe do work in the studio instead. The drummer from the british punk band The Stranglers did that
@The SNES Man ZZ Top is a good example of that, too. They're all roughly the same age, about 73, and still rock.
I say go do what you like. Worrying too much about opinion is never good. If people don't like it they wouldn't come.
My goal in life is to outlive Keith Richards ✌🏽
Good luck with that.
😬
i am 66...i am trying the same goal...may the day never come for Keith Richards...he definitely has beat the odds
Donald Trump is my reason for living.... I need to outlive him and laugh at his cult's inconsolable bemusement
@@SunofYork TDS
Once you make enough, why keep up the torture
Well as they say in the Biz ... which I'm not in ...
... The Show Must Go On ...
Yup u gotta good one mick but not a great one. Wyman grossly underrated
The Stones lost relevancy when Mick Taylor left.
You have to ask just why have all these great players, Brian Jones, Mick Taylor, and eventually Bill Wyman left this particular band? Only to be replaced by, let's face it, some very ordinary musicians. And why has this band basically never done anything of note since about 1972? It would seem the questions are connected when all the band's best musicians have gone.
Will miss Bill but we will get some one good, REALLY? They are just a traveling nostalgia act.
He's just nonchalant like that...the beat goes on type thing. Mick will probably die on stage one day he won't ever stop performing he just married again to some ballerina a few years ago had open heart surgery and is still dancing around. He is not going to stop just because Wyman wants to stop.
Daryl's a great bass player, but he doesn't fit the Stones like Bill did. I was really bummed out when he left.
In truth, you can't really tell much difference between Wyman's Bass playing and Daryl's because Daryl is a superior Bass player and he lays back a lot more on his playing to sound more like Wyman -- live or on record. Whenever you listen to him playing elsewhere, his Bass is far more filling than what we hear him do with the Stones. These cats are smart, they know what the fans like and they stay as true as they can for us…
He seems like the complete antithesis of Keith Richards-sober and intelligible, lol
Voodoo Lounge & Bridges To Babylon would have sounded so much better w/ Bill on them…
The band sounded thin & generic after his departure, evident on “Stripped”… After 1992 the tours only got bigger though,
Voodoo & Bridges tours were a Huge success also the “No Security” tour at the end of the decade…
Daryl’s a great bassist but he didn’t replace bill
He stands in for him but he does not replace him. What's the problem?
Peter Kroll No problem, that’s what I’m saying.
@@busterthebear6756 Eejit
No? What did he do then?
Buster clearly doesnt know what 'replace' means lol. What a dumbfuck
Maybe because of the groupies very tempting specially when drugs & alcohol are involved, just a guess please I don't really know, exceptional bassist, I bet Charlie was greatly affected
Lol Keith is off his fookin head here
Wow he left only a little over half their career
When will the police collar this fraggle?
@SunnyDaze-uq8ed damn ice cold dude🤣🤣🤣
Keith was out of it here.
Bill almost bowed out in 1982 and Busta Cherry Jones ruined that announcement...sad but true. BTW c'mon Bill why not stay??? Daryl been with nearly as long.
When you left the Stones you're no more skinny, strange????
Sebastian Gorka?
No, it's Bill Wyman
@@iansmith8263 The host
That was the end of the Stones.
No, theyre still going!
Yeah ! they only made a few hundred million touring after that
Roderick Owen buy a music book 📖
As a relevant music act. Bill got out at the right time, as it began to descend into self parody. The Stones are now just ambassadors of a certain time and place, cranking out the hits to wealthy retiree Boomers.
70 odd years old,zimmerring round a stage,give it up ffs.
No need to give up when the stadiums are crammed to bursting with fans. Personally I'd love to see them do a stripped back acoustic set with minimal production. No zimmering around, just a laid back celebration of a lifetime of hard work and a lifetime of friendship.
Mark Roberts u sad tool.
Bill is the oldest stone