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    • @matias7152
      @matias7152 4 года назад +22

      ok

    • @flashnimator5025
      @flashnimator5025 4 года назад +16

      ok

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      @tazimrahbar7882 4 года назад +4

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  • @TheBunnyYT
    @TheBunnyYT 4 года назад +2229

    Any border dispute in the world-
    Britain: uhhh... so yeah... bye!

    • @thestoic4629
      @thestoic4629 4 года назад +11

      fActs lol

    • @vtron9832
      @vtron9832 4 года назад +186

      Britain is to its colonies the way a douche boyfriend is to his girlfriend: swoop in, get benefits, leave.

    • @iumasz6088
      @iumasz6088 4 года назад +87

      Thats 20th and 21th century Britain.
      19th and 18th century Britain would be like
      "whats that my good chap, a border dispute with the indigenous population?"
      *Colonisation* *intensifies*

    • @edwardvictorau
      @edwardvictorau 4 года назад +1

      I agree.

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian 4 года назад +35

      @@vtron9832 And British colonies are largely better than the colonies of other countries.

  • @duoslinger4325
    @duoslinger4325 4 года назад +363

    13:19 Hongkongers didn't make Cantonese the language of Chinatowns in San Fransisco, and most older Chinatowns. The original immigrants to other countries like the US were all from Canton. San Fransisco's had Cantonese immigrants since the 1850s. The Hongkongers just moved from one Cantonese speaking place to another.

    • @pascallaw5909
      @pascallaw5909 4 года назад +36

      HK was basically a fishing village back then when the California Gold Rush started... And Canton used to be the only one Chinese port that was open to the outside world in Qing Dynasty, so most of the immigrants to California were Cantonese-speaking Cantonese (or from nearby counties) back then.

    • @DaneGilCabrales
      @DaneGilCabrales 4 года назад +17

      Manila Chinatown, the oldest Chinatown in the world is mostly not speaking Cantonese but Fookienese
      Source: Me, a person living near the oldest Chinatown in the world

    • @kitwan9364
      @kitwan9364 4 года назад +7

      @@pascallaw5909 fookien is a made up word, made by CCP, using mandarin pingyin. The real word is hokkien or hokkienese

    • @dddddd2872
      @dddddd2872 4 года назад +22

      kit wan I’m from Taiwan and I speak Hokkien, but Fookien is not pinyin nor made up by the CCP

    • @JKMT
      @JKMT 4 года назад +19

      @@dddddd2872 Fookien is Cantonese pronunciation of Hokkien

  • @on99kfc
    @on99kfc 4 года назад +150

    As a HongKoinger, and one of the 50000 families who got the British Citizenship, I love the last line of the video.
    We love our city and our way of life, and want to stay here as long as possible, yet Hong Kong is a place on borrowed time.

    • @harry12
      @harry12 4 года назад +2

      do u still have HK SAR passport?

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 3 года назад +10

      It always was, wasn't it? Even if Hong Kong stays static, the world around it is constantly changing. The "get rich quick" 1980s was just a fluke in history--China doesn't need HK to export its goods anymore.
      The good thing is, if we work hard and do good things (rioting is not a "good thing"), we can give Hong Kong a breath of new life. The past is gone, and the future is what we make of it.

    • @lrt_unimog8316
      @lrt_unimog8316 2 года назад

      Another BC👋

    • @nmslese
      @nmslese 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@canto_v12 "rioting", ha~

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 11 месяцев назад +1

      That borrowed time is up.😔

  • @edwardvictorau
    @edwardvictorau 4 года назад +1085

    Very good timing for this clip, when Hongkongers are worried about their passports and identity.

    • @SW-8228
      @SW-8228 4 года назад +12

      Ed I’m worried because UK and HK are quite in not so good relationships and what am I? Well the previous 2 places I just named.

    • @SW-8228
      @SW-8228 4 года назад +11

      UK Politics And His Opinion 3 million is an over statement. The UK has a housing crisis.

    • @alfredthegreat194
      @alfredthegreat194 4 года назад +2

      UK Politics And His Opinion we are already a full country. Our ecology is dying. Building housing and more infrastructure would be a disaster.

    • @0utd0wns0uth
      @0utd0wns0uth 4 года назад +31

      The City of Hong Kong deserves independence; watching this city-state slowly die from Chinese invasion is heartbreaking as a British citizen

    • @danieljohnson4994
      @danieljohnson4994 4 года назад +7

      @@SW-8228 I don't think you understand the housing crisis it not because there isn't enough houses there is it's the facts that theres not enough social/affordable houses for low income workers

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 года назад +1893

    Person to HKer: Are you a British citizen?
    HKer: Yes but no.

    • @alcabone1126
      @alcabone1126 4 года назад +59

      They are not citizens(allowed to live in the uk permanently) but nationals i think

    • @Rakinjo2
      @Rakinjo2 4 года назад +16

      @@alcabone1126 They are by definition not citizens if they cannot vote.

    • @priyanshu1074
      @priyanshu1074 4 года назад +34

      Yesn't

    • @israellai
      @israellai 4 года назад +59

      It's a clear no. We're nationals, not citizens. We can, however, vote in the UK, as commonwealth citizens. Not even EU citizens can do that (before Brexit).

    • @markonikolic7957
      @markonikolic7957 4 года назад +37

      @@israellai why would you even write that last sentence lol. Ofcourse someone from Germany couldn't vote in UK, even before Brexit. EU is just a trade and economic union, nothing like a country.

  • @kwanlinus6999
    @kwanlinus6999 3 года назад +98

    13:37 This is the case with the Hong Kong Chief Executive currently, Carrie Lam. She works as the CE, but her husband and two sons reside in the UK and hold full UK citizenship and passports.

  • @f1sh98
    @f1sh98 4 года назад +486

    Small correction, at 7:40 you say they mention the same Great Wall, I believe the Chinese emblem is the Tiananmen, the large gates entering the forbidden city

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 4 года назад +22

      Yup, the "Gate of Heavenly Peace". I wish there was more liberty in modern China. I'd love to actually visit there.

    • @krioni86sa
      @krioni86sa 4 года назад

      How many people live there?

    • @NicholasMarkovich
      @NicholasMarkovich 4 года назад +4

      He says the same national emblem *and* illustration of the Great Wall, which is *inside* both passports.

    • @dan339dan
      @dan339dan 4 года назад

      The great wall is the background illustration on each page of the passport.

    • @martiddy
      @martiddy 4 года назад +1

      @@chucklebutt4470 Quite ironic name since it's located in front of the Tiananmen Square.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 года назад +633

    China: How much content do you want
    PolyMatter: Yes
    Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall

    • @williamzhu7845
      @williamzhu7845 4 года назад +59

      @@labadaba5088 wrong date, try May 35th

    • @alancheung4977
      @alancheung4977 4 года назад +4

      Kim Jong-un will not like this ...

    • @KinkyLettuce
      @KinkyLettuce 4 года назад +21

      @@labadaba5088 tiananmen is June 4th

    • @gsacelm7753
      @gsacelm7753 4 года назад +8

      Why do I find you everywhere

    • @brennencox516
      @brennencox516 4 года назад +11

      "Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall"
      Tianmen Tower, to be precise.

  • @hgos7211
    @hgos7211 4 года назад +380

    12:24 Wow, never thought I'll be able to see my housing estate in a RUclips video.

    • @ckc985
      @ckc985 4 года назад +3

      Where's that?

    • @davidscutar1403
      @davidscutar1403 4 года назад +24

      @Hgo S stay safe

    • @alancheung4977
      @alancheung4977 4 года назад +4

      Same in that exact clip i saw my home

    • @hgos7211
      @hgos7211 4 года назад +22

      @@ckc985 Search "Tseung Kwan O". You'll be able to recognize the canal on Google maps.

    • @hgos7211
      @hgos7211 4 года назад +31

      @@davidscutar1403 It's generally a pretty safe city. I'm not a part of the protests.

  • @eugeneng7064
    @eugeneng7064 4 года назад +691

    Pretty sure the image at 7:40 is the Gate of Heavenly Peace, aka Tiananmen, not the great wall.

    • @stanislaviliev6305
      @stanislaviliev6305 4 года назад +46

      Probably cause it was less bloody

    • @alexlee7168
      @alexlee7168 4 года назад +5

      @@stanislaviliev6305 damn just like that, true tho

    • @raymondlaw5258
      @raymondlaw5258 4 года назад +12

      The same Tiananmen where the protest for freedom were supported by Hong Kongers, and were masscared by China

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 года назад

      hence why they gave NGO passport so people had a choice and ability to get out of the country in case worse thing happen is the foolish kid who think... this is my home i will stay...and fight the biggest goverment in the world whoese record is know to do evil shit to people who go against them...

    • @PolyMatter
      @PolyMatter  4 года назад +157

      The Great Wall illustrations are *inside* the passports, but both passports have a national emblem.

  • @eustache_dauger
    @eustache_dauger 4 года назад +396

    3:10 transfer of sovereignty to an existing country, instead of full independence also happened to the Crown Colonies of North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore in 1963 when the three territories were given away to the main British ally in Southeast Asia, the Federation of Malaya. Whereas a referendum was conducted in Singapore in 1962, no such referendum was conducted in both Borneo colonies.

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 4 года назад +8

      Sarawak became independent on the 22nd of July 1963 then joined the Federation on the 16th of September of the same year.

    • @eustache_dauger
      @eustache_dauger 4 года назад +49

      @@eugeneng7064 22nd July marks the date of attaining self-governance, not independence. There are differences between "self-governance" and "independence." Singapore attained self-governance in 1959, but they're still not independent until 1965. The Federation of Malaya attained self-governance in 1955 (when the Alliance won the 1955 election) but only achieved independence in 1957. Independence confers sovereignty, which is best demonstrated through control of security & defense, as well as capacity to conduct diplomacy with other sovereign foreign states and international organizations. Sarawak has neither of the two since 1946.
      If possible, you may refer to the telegram dated 1st September 1963 from Lord Selkirk to the Colonial Office, which states among other thing
      a. The grant of independence to a territory under British sovereignty requires an act of Parliament at Westminster.
      b. That the British Malaysia Act provides for the transfer of British sovereignty over Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak to the new Federation of Malaysia *but does not provide for the separate independence of these territories.*
      In 1966, Singapore retroactively received its Singapore Act 1966 from the Parliament of the United Kingdom, therefore fulfilling item "a" as mentioned above.

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 4 года назад +6

      @@eustache_dauger hmm. Good to know. Thank you

    • @risannd
      @risannd 4 года назад +8

      Not much later, Indonesia was outraged and set an invasion, which they lost.

    • @sardosam_
      @sardosam_ 4 года назад +7

      @@user-op8fg3ny3j brunei was always and still is a Sultanate, isn't it?

  • @doubledeckyomom
    @doubledeckyomom 4 года назад +186

    "British plan to move Hong Kong to Northern Ireland"
    The cheek 😂

    • @user-nf9xc7ww7m
      @user-nf9xc7ww7m 4 года назад +22

      That actually has been done before by various countries to dilute a province's native population, particularly when the natives despise the "foreign" govt.

    • @lorili6885
      @lorili6885 4 года назад +2

      Ur not welcomed, get back to China!

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 года назад +30

      @@lorili6885 the brits already did that to northern Ireland before, that is the reason ni is even still brittish

    • @oakoakoak2219
      @oakoakoak2219 4 года назад +1

      @@mikeoxsmal8022 Yeah, the protestant population was there to maintain the union

    • @liuzeyuan
      @liuzeyuan 3 года назад +1

      Moving Asians I mean not whites to Ireland? Lol effing bs

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 года назад +242

    13:03 What happened to my peninsula

    • @deeeenisttv
      @deeeenisttv 4 года назад +23

      RIP

    • @PedroGomes-mt3iz
      @PedroGomes-mt3iz 4 года назад +45

      Well spotted, supreme leader

    • @user-ld6is4ni3d
      @user-ld6is4ni3d 4 года назад +8

      Ahhh yes, the person from swiss001!

    • @YourboiM
      @YourboiM 4 года назад +17

      China ate it

    • @emperorpenguin4663
      @emperorpenguin4663 4 года назад +13

      Your majestic/supreme leader, you will automatically become a US citizen sir. I approved this message

  • @mpch3743
    @mpch3743 4 года назад +117

    10:04 Fun fact: they tore up an expired BNO passport

    • @tristanlau1213
      @tristanlau1213 4 года назад +59

      And the corner was cut, that means they renewed the BNO passport as well lol

    • @hkbazinga1283
      @hkbazinga1283 4 года назад +53

      How do I show my loyalty to China but play it safe at the same time?
      Tearing up expired and corner-cut BNOs.

    • @owencheng523
      @owencheng523 4 года назад +5

      To also persuade others to tear up tears,in order to reduce the number of rivalry for him.BTW for 大波Man as we no he is definitely a police(got knee knocked lol) but judging by his attitude, and his fame and popularity within this incident he is more likely focused on his own personal insurance of safety for him and his future or family perhaps.Yet as we can see judging by the fact as a police he can’t receive any bribe from any,suggesting he won’t benefit except infamy from the incident.So it’s better for him to play safe is he really committed to the cause as it benefits himself,or is he actually hiding behind this camouflage and what he really care is his own survival.well anyway ladies and gentle man wat have been shown is a weakness,and yet how many individuals that have a BNO is only a handful compared to the majority of population today.They either are the ruling classes that benefits from the regime,or either they are going to play it safe judging by their minimal age.Finally to those lucky individuals(judging by ur own point of view) we all may have different cards own our hands as individual,but wat I can only say by now is play your cards wisely it’s better to take a shoot when u got a clear view of the situation.

    • @p8p877
      @p8p877 Месяц назад

      Expired BNO passports are still eligible for re-application

  • @saggalousmmwamow9069
    @saggalousmmwamow9069 4 года назад +43

    As a native Hong Konger, I'd say this video is a very well made one with very thorough understanding of the situation. Thank you for the useful and informative video.

  • @mchmchminecraft1637
    @mchmchminecraft1637 4 года назад +77

    Those who torn their BNO in front of the British Embassy had their passport already cut in corner in 09:59

    • @ddnn974
      @ddnn974 2 года назад +3

      Those just clowns

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 11 месяцев назад

      They don't pledge loyalty to China or the broader Chinse People. They are just sycophants to the perpetually insecure control-freak rotting undead corpses who are sitting in Zhongnanhai in Beijing.

  • @xxyanlixx
    @xxyanlixx 4 года назад +35

    I'm from Hong Kong, I'm learning so much about our SAR. Thank you Evan :)

    • @Rey-lg8sx
      @Rey-lg8sx 2 года назад

      You have national identity different in mainland China.

  • @parcoli1311
    @parcoli1311 4 года назад +381

    As a Hongkonger, the closing remark choked me up.

    • @shawnli9284
      @shawnli9284 4 года назад +1

      Parco Li why you chose overseas

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb 4 года назад +46

      @@shawnli9284 Can't choose where you are born

    • @parcoli1311
      @parcoli1311 4 года назад +35

      Shawn Li Sorry, I cannot comprehend your question.

    • @Edoardo396channel
      @Edoardo396channel 4 года назад +29

      Good luck with your freedom 💪

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian 4 года назад +32

      I sympathize with Hong Kong.

  • @s070076100
    @s070076100 4 года назад +38

    Really appreciate your effort into introducing Hong Kong to the English speaking world !

    • @shrewdguy4916
      @shrewdguy4916 2 года назад +3

      I would say most British people know the situation in Hong kong

  • @Clozi6
    @Clozi6 4 года назад +8

    Thank you for covering Hong Kong! This was much needed.

  • @thisshouldbecensored4504
    @thisshouldbecensored4504 4 года назад +189

    I would just like to say thank you for that ending, as a Hong Konger, it really did hit me hard :')

    • @nicholaslau3194
      @nicholaslau3194 4 года назад +29

      Same here. Stand with HK

    • @andison627
      @andison627 4 года назад +8

      Same here bro.

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy 4 года назад +14

      What are you planning to do? How can one plan his life in Hong Kong - a mortgage, starting a business, speaking freely - knowing that an evil dictatorship could come in at any second? I'd be trying everything I could to escape.

    • @isaacwong1465
      @isaacwong1465 4 года назад +7

      me too as a HongKonger

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 3 года назад +4

      @@VisibilityFoggy Sorry, the "evil dictatorship" came in in 1997. You're 23 years late. Meanwhile, what you *can* do is make the best of what you have, and once China is convinced you've settled down, they actually give HK a LOT of leeway.

  • @mrtek8095
    @mrtek8095 4 года назад +9

    Finally, a new Polymatter vid! Pls upload more, your vids are great!

  • @horchan1216
    @horchan1216 4 года назад +1

    Great research done for this video, and great timing as well!

  • @MrE03
    @MrE03 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for making videos on such important topics. Subscribed!

  • @KeKNine
    @KeKNine 4 года назад +165

    11:06 this dude has some big ass shoes

    • @rosssyr
      @rosssyr 4 года назад +7

      Fill them with gravy

    • @groundsalt2199
      @groundsalt2199 4 года назад +8

      I read this as ass holes lmao

    • @yuetchuen
      @yuetchuen 4 года назад +1

      @@groundsalt2199
      I read this as big ass holes shoes lmao

    • @liam-man7265
      @liam-man7265 3 года назад +1

      He must be the real Bigfoot.

  • @mdgun
    @mdgun 4 года назад +1

    Good job, this is very well researched and up to date

  • @kevinlau7780
    @kevinlau7780 4 года назад

    Thank you for spreading information about this issue. Great video👍🏻

  • @zeqi
    @zeqi 4 года назад +7

    We learn more about the world and useful information from a single 15 minute video by Polymatter than a whole day in school

  • @brycem1207
    @brycem1207 4 года назад +17

    Probably one of the best channels in terms of content on and about China 👍🏽

    • @kingpak1325
      @kingpak1325 4 года назад +6

      Bryce Franco Zholshybekov We aren’t Chinese, they are colonising us HongKongers.

    • @kenzhang312
      @kenzhang312 4 года назад +5

      @@kingpak1325 How pathetic

    • @deeeenisttv
      @deeeenisttv 4 года назад

      @@kingpak1325 yes, but it's still a video which is related to China

    • @de132
      @de132 4 года назад +4

      @@kenzhang312 I don't think it's pathetic, I do think it's a stark opinion.

    • @kenzhang312
      @kenzhang312 4 года назад +6

      @@de132 even the second/third generation immigrants from China still call themselves Chinese in overseas. They would not deny they are Chinese, some of these young people in HK have betrayed their roots, lost their spines. That is truly sad and really really pathetic. how come the young people in Macau doesn't say something like that? Also the irony is that most of the people who miss the British ruled time are the ones who have never experienced it.

  • @jimyu9147
    @jimyu9147 4 года назад +1

    Wow, this is a really well researched video. Amazing channel.

  • @yiliang9085
    @yiliang9085 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for covering the issue!

  • @NicholasLeung_nktleung
    @NicholasLeung_nktleung 4 года назад +12

    Thank you for such a detailed analysis. As a Hong Konger who has 3 passports, 2 homes and one of the weirdest identity in the world, I was touched.

  • @recnemorcen
    @recnemorcen 4 года назад +79

    13:45 "Such is the predicament of Hong Kongers. They love their city, their language, and their way of life. They want, above all else, and as long as possible, to stay. And yet, they also know these things are temporary."
    As a Hong Konger, these words cut so deep that they actually brought tears to my eyes...

    • @HT-jy7dv
      @HT-jy7dv 3 года назад

      I mean Hong Kong hasn't changed... But sure whatever.

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 3 года назад

      It will all be over in 2047

    • @martinmendl1399
      @martinmendl1399 3 года назад +4

      @@Perririri Its already over now. Hongkong has become a dictatorship last year. China broke the agreement.

    • @Brybao
      @Brybao 3 года назад

      Hong Kong will still have culture after China takes it...? Cantonese culture itself isn’t even native to Hong Kong lol so I wonder how Hakka felt before this. People seem to think Hong Kong is the only Cantonese place in China and forget Guangdong exists lol

    • @crodsbye
      @crodsbye 3 года назад +5

      ​@@Brybao Cantonese spoken in Guangdong is slightly different to that of Hong Kong. Guangdong Cantonese consists of more mandarin-derived vocabulary and noticeable differences in vowel placement, many youths in Guangdong also have a stronger mandarin accent due to education there being entirely in mandarin. Hong Kong Cantonese has more English loan words and we generally sound angrier. It's similar to the differences between Austrian and Standard German.

  • @dylreesYT
    @dylreesYT 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video, well done and thank you

  • @samarthrao3793
    @samarthrao3793 4 года назад +1

    it’s so cool watching these videos after watching your skill share course

  • @adrianktng
    @adrianktng 4 года назад +9

    As a Hong Konger, Thank you so much to make a video about us

  • @16Gym
    @16Gym 4 года назад +193

    Those BNO changes are not confirmed yet.
    Also, the majority of young protestors will be left out, which doesn't help the situation at all.

    • @04nbod
      @04nbod 4 года назад +27

      We really should re-open applications for it. If the children of the people in 1997 could access it, it would raise that percentage considerably. But a mass exodus won't help Hong Kong. It will just remove opposition. Our actions need to be focused on getting China to back off

    • @rei_cirith
      @rei_cirith 4 года назад +19

      Depends what they do about family of BNO holders. Hopefully they'll figure something out. Honestly, after BEXIT, the UK could use professionals from Hong Kong.

    • @ZeBanded
      @ZeBanded 4 года назад +2

      that said, its still in an early stage. things could change

    • @tylerliu2632
      @tylerliu2632 4 года назад +13

      all those countries and people who say that they care about the hker's freedom, have done little to nothing other than just sayin stuff. when it comes to actually doing things they are useless

    • @garmenlin5990
      @garmenlin5990 4 года назад +1

      The only thing it helps is lowering the housing prices

  • @AshlandInsuranceOregon
    @AshlandInsuranceOregon 4 года назад

    How interesting! Thank you, PolyMatter.

  • @makemoneynow5061
    @makemoneynow5061 3 года назад +1

    Keep posting interesting contents like this!

  • @xxyanlixx
    @xxyanlixx 4 года назад +180

    There are so many sentimental resonance that connect with me on this video:
    1. My mother is one of those who obtained British citizenship under the 50 thousand citizenship grant scheme.
    2. My uncle, who was a BNO holder, feared the CCP, sold his two apartments in Pok Fu Lam (upper-class neighborhood) and fled to Vancouver to obtain a Canadian citizenship. Granted, he came back to Hong Kong but the housing price rose so much he now cannot afford to buy a home here.
    3. My father, who's a US citizen, in contrast, did not see CCP as a threat and stayed in Hong Kong to continue with his business, invested more in the property market and has seen his net worth rose year by year. He is constantly considering to surrender his US citizenship to obtain the Hong Kong SAR passport.
    Going forward, the BNO situation doesn't affect me at all. But through the grapevine, it's been said the parents of the post-97 born protesters would settle in UK first to gain full British citizenship, then bring their children over afterwards, creating another type of "astronauts". However, this major decision varies between families.
    I love that you cover Hong Kong and China so much. Would be happy to donate a sizable amount if you have a patreon account.

    • @laod7192
      @laod7192 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @xxyanlixx
      @xxyanlixx 4 года назад +1

      Chenxing Li $50/video :)

    • @chunchoi4434
      @chunchoi4434 4 года назад +3

      You might want to tell your father that you can't have both a Hong Kong passport and a u.s. passport. No surrender necessary.

    • @harry12
      @harry12 4 года назад

      so how many passports do u have? US? UK? and HK SAR?

    • @holycow343
      @holycow343 4 года назад +16

      Some people just value political freedom more over economic stability and vice versa. HK People who are fearful of losing political freedom should just leave HK why cause trouble for the ones who don't mind sacrificing a little bit of political freedom for economic stability. To those people who think China will give up land so that HKers can be independent are extremely naiive.

  • @quahntasy
    @quahntasy 4 года назад +43

    *border dispute occurs*
    Britain - uh okay bye

  • @t.godemiche7087
    @t.godemiche7087 3 года назад +1

    A brilliant analysis, thank you!

  • @10230691ust
    @10230691ust 3 года назад +1

    very insightful video clip, useful and thought provoking , particularly for those ppl in hk who are uncertain about their future

  • @ultearmilkojohn1145
    @ultearmilkojohn1145 4 года назад +39

    7:30 the national emblem features an illustration of Tiananmen Gate, the entrance to the Forbidden City, not the Great Wall as stated

    • @FrozenBusChannel
      @FrozenBusChannel 4 года назад +3

      I think he's mentioning the Great Wall graphic on the inner page?

  • @thomastang6272
    @thomastang6272 4 года назад +116

    I was born a British Citizen in HK but now i am US Citizen. We left in 1980's and never returned. My mom has BNO and never applied for me due to that I was a minor. We became US Citizen long prior to 1997 handover anyway.

    • @garrettzucker2894
      @garrettzucker2894 4 года назад +39

      You sir are very lucky right now

    • @ckc985
      @ckc985 4 года назад +24

      weird flex but ok

    • @aaryt
      @aaryt 4 года назад +37

      He lives in the country owned by corporations/lobbyist, plagued with racism, obesity epidemic, expensive healthcare, has a comedian leader named Trump, who's infrastucture is disintegrating, shrinking middle class, has more than a trillion debt to China, funds wars every decade or so. I wouldn't call that lucky.

    • @lennartherix6872
      @lennartherix6872 4 года назад +54

      @@aaryt Still better than fearing about your freedom

    • @gebys4559
      @gebys4559 4 года назад +4

      My friend didn't get it as his parents couldn't be bothered to apply for him. He studied in UK and with BNO could have likely extended it to full citizenship, but had only HKSAR so had no such option despite living there for several years.

  • @CSCharlesIV
    @CSCharlesIV 3 года назад

    love it how you sneak in the ad at the least expected moment lol. kudos on the videos :)

  • @azuru.7903
    @azuru.7903 4 года назад +2

    Damn your videos are genuinely awesome

  • @user-fp1go9fl7n
    @user-fp1go9fl7n 3 года назад +7

    Thanks for the video. I've lived in Hong Kong for wonderful 4 years and loved every moment of it. The way its amazing mix of people and freedom back then was unlike anything I've seen. I hope they find their freedom soon.

  • @oliversissonphone6143
    @oliversissonphone6143 4 года назад +28

    Factually incorrect. Australians haven’t been able to move to the UK without a visa for a long time. (1950s?)

    • @megaangelic
      @megaangelic 4 года назад +7

      Still can if their parents or grandparents were British. At that moment in time that was a very very large portion of Australians and Canadians. Today much less so.

    • @MuppetsSh0w
      @MuppetsSh0w 4 года назад +5

      Gotta mention white people bad you know

    • @Sparx632
      @Sparx632 4 года назад

      It does have 90 day visa free access though I think.

    • @williamevans4894
      @williamevans4894 Год назад +1

      Australia and Canada should be allowed to move to the UK without visas

  • @Peahnuts
    @Peahnuts 4 года назад +1

    Not sure if it means anything, but I hadn't been receiving your videos for about 5 months. I had thought you completely stopped until I stumbled upon this one by accident!

  • @petrichor111
    @petrichor111 4 года назад

    Great Video, as always! I especially love your art style!

  • @jakob5643
    @jakob5643 4 года назад +110

    Hmm sounds like a new microphone right? so good quality on the commentary

  • @p9848o
    @p9848o Год назад +8

    I was born in 1998 and I will immigratie to the UK through BNO visa in the coming year (One of my parents is BNO holder who was born in HONG KONG before 1997). I just want to say I think I am a British who is loyally to THE KING .

    • @darth.severu5
      @darth.severu5 Год назад

      1st, BNOs are not British citizens. 2nd BNO visa does not guarantee citizenship.

    • @ehislqwezad316
      @ehislqwezad316 9 месяцев назад +4

      Bno holders have right to vote.

    • @ehislqwezad316
      @ehislqwezad316 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@darth.severu5 you chinese are always china citizenship 🤣

    • @yggvv7570
      @yggvv7570 6 месяцев назад

      I agree. So why China is not happy about this? @@darth.severu5

  • @joel3536
    @joel3536 4 года назад

    This is quality content right here

  • @caitlynchui4887
    @caitlynchui4887 3 года назад

    thank you for making this video

  • @sohopedeco
    @sohopedeco 4 года назад +8

    I was in Macau during the 2014 Brazilian presidential elections and I read a news report about the ballot on the Brazilian consulate of Hong Kong was the one where the opposing candidate Aécio Neves had won by the largest margin in the world. Then they explained that most "Brazilian" voters in Hong Kong were actually Hong Kongers who had lived for sometime in Brazil, naturalized, and then went back. Most didn't really care and only wanted to make sure not lose the Brazilian citizenship.

  • @magicsmurfy
    @magicsmurfy 3 года назад +3

    Very accurate. I wish everyone can be that honest about the facts.

  • @maciejkamil
    @maciejkamil 3 года назад

    Interesting, as always. I never known, that the handover was so complicated!

  • @snoopyyyy
    @snoopyyyy 4 года назад

    i gotta say i really like your videos they teach me more than school

  • @tomlam8684
    @tomlam8684 3 года назад +42

    The fact that the youth in Hong Kong fought so hard in 2019 only gave a chance for older generation to get their UK citizenship. Most of them even supported HK gov for their anti democracy move.
    That make me sad.

  • @ycohui
    @ycohui 4 года назад +27

    HK Protests
    PolyMatter: Meh
    UK Home Office & Foreign Minister Mails
    PolyMatter: BNO is becoming better, Yap. But the majority protesters isn’t really eligible for BN(O)
    Protesters: Cries. We love Hong Kong, as we could kept just like the 80s and 90s.
    Yeah, Hong Kong is always as a second-class citizens under whose control.
    Yet, They are Hong Kongers but not Chinese. They still got their language as the vid stated (Cantonese). The independent currency and a slightly weird judiciary system. Maybe the controlling by brits were bad before, but the double-deckers buses, freedoms and the lovely society was brought from UK.
    God save the queen as just Her Majesty’s “formal” birthday had just passed, and Hope the freedom would be with Hong Kong and their citizens

    • @hko2006
      @hko2006 4 года назад

      Not sure you do you mean by "a slightly weird judiciary system", HK follows the common law system from the UK.

    • @ycohui
      @ycohui 4 года назад +4

      As the Judge of Final Court is appointed by Chief Executive of HKSAR, at the current state, Carrie Lam whom isn’t selected directly by the citizens but appointed by PRC Government. What would you think about the judge?
      Currently Geoffrey Ma is still having a high credibility. But he is going to retire and there is a new one coming. Who knows what will be going on.
      HM Government just not as the same as PRC Government

    • @rei_cirith
      @rei_cirith 4 года назад +2

      We won't have our language for long if China has anything to say about it. A Hong Kong teacher was recently fired because a mainland parent complained that they refused to teach in Mandarin. Mandarin is also slowly taking over Chinatowns overseas.

    • @lilitong8067
      @lilitong8067 4 года назад +2

      Freedom when ruled by the uk? But the problem is that the hk people were regarded as second class citizens and never had the right to elect their government

    • @hko2006
      @hko2006 4 года назад +1

      @@ycohui Ah, thank you for reminding me this "appointed by CE" bit, forgot it myself.

  • @renaissancebeing
    @renaissancebeing 4 года назад +1

    Kudos for the great video, much gratitude for bringing the issue of BNO to the light of the world. Cheers!

  • @xena8_8
    @xena8_8 4 года назад

    great video as always

  • @drlau8898
    @drlau8898 4 года назад +7

    Well done. A very well-round explanation on Hong Kong issue. Absolutely right about that we, the British National Overseas in Hong Kong love our city and hope to reside here. However, it is also true that we need protection from the Britain at the moment as we are now oppressed by the tyranny. The Sino-British joint declaration, an international treaty between the UK and China is breached and therefore the UK has right and duty to extend the rights of BNOs and save them. For short term, there might be minor influx of people in the UK, but it is sure that they will leave once HK is liberated from the tyranny. For the time BNOs are staying in the UK, there will also be contributing and not welfare consuming, just like how they live in Hong Kong. It would be grateful if the world could understand the issue and continue to stand with Hong Kong.

  • @kothemagica
    @kothemagica 4 года назад +8

    As a HKer I got to say I learnt a lot from this video

  • @Goodman-4525
    @Goodman-4525 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for the continued coverage on our situation!

  • @pikminlord343
    @pikminlord343 3 года назад

    another great video

  • @awtizme
    @awtizme 4 года назад +70

    13:03 RIP Korea

    • @Useless0305
      @Useless0305 4 года назад +3

      98 2 cheeky bit of racism 😬🥴

    • @La1930CosaNostra
      @La1930CosaNostra 4 года назад +3

      Wow!!! Attention to detail I must say... You picked that out in a 5 second clip of the world map... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @capncake8837
      @capncake8837 3 года назад

      @B J You can actually see a little of NZ.

  • @Official_dj
    @Official_dj 4 года назад +6

    Hey my guy just a quick thing that the graphic map of the UK Ur using misses out all the the islands, I know Shetland and Orkney are far and harder to get in but the inner and outer Hebrides are right off the coast , Scotland looks weird without them ,
    Great vid tho just that one thing , 👍

  • @ESC_jackqulen
    @ESC_jackqulen 4 года назад +2

    Great video!
    I really like several points pointed out in this video that were often overlooked by the news.
    -some saw HK returning to China as a good thing back then, because we're not ever considered as British citizens.
    -my family is the prime example of "astronaut" thing mentioned in the video. My mum stayed in HK while the rest of my family immigrated to USA. My dad has returned to HK after getting US citizenship.
    The foreign passport as security is so true. Because of having US citizenship and me not moving back to HK (lol), my parents now started to make plans to permanently moving to USA also...

    • @ESC_jackqulen
      @ESC_jackqulen 3 года назад +1

      ​@Erwin Lii Hi, I'll answer them with my own bias on the issue...
      -In my personal opinion, reclaiming HK is not about winning the cold war against USA/India, but simply a matter of national pride and ending colonialism on what used to be China's land.
      -I wouldn't say the UK "left their colonial mess behind" this time around. UK wished to remain control on HK but China does not want any foreign involvement in HK, so the UK was forced to leave.
      -The China-Taiwan issue is far another complicated situation. Technically, both claim to be the legitimate 'China'. What started this divide is the different political parties. You can say it's a civil war that never ended. There is no right or wrong in political systems. Just because we grew up with democratic ideologies doesn't equal communism has to be wrong. (of course, as an individual I would prefer one that gives me more personal and political freedom)
      -The HK protests... It started with the extradition law which is saying that the HK government can send fugitives to mainland China to be put under China's judicial laws. The law was opposed because people in HK afraid that China will abuse this law. The first demonstrations against the law were peaceful, it's 1 million people went on the streets saying they don't want this bill to be passed. HK government decided to ignore and continue to green-light the bill, then a week later 2 million people went on the streets to say no. It gets violent after that because there is a lack of response from the HK government that satisfies the will of HK people.

  • @nofanfelani6924
    @nofanfelani6924 4 года назад

    The ads transition at the end was perfect.

  • @clementkong8133
    @clementkong8133 4 года назад +5

    @9:41 if u notice the top right corner of the passport was cut, so those people ripping their BNO passports were actually just ripping their expired BNO passport.

  • @KarlDMarx
    @KarlDMarx 3 года назад +45

    I remember one Hong Konger stating: "We are not British subjects - we are British objects!" The question of nationality and residence status is just a game for the elites.

  • @minhazulislam4682
    @minhazulislam4682 4 года назад +2

    waited for your content for quite sometime. I really admire your work, you and one other youtuber(oversimplified) inspired me to start working on my own project. I even wrote a few scripts. Thanks for your content. Make more of these.

  • @Rockthezeppelin
    @Rockthezeppelin 4 года назад +2

    Great video as usual! Small correction, at 7:35 you say the passprt has an illustration of the great wall, but I believe that's China's national emblem, which is an illustration of Tiananmen.

  • @angus1087
    @angus1087 4 года назад +6

    You missed several crucial point on why Hong Kongers currently view BNO is superior to HK passports.
    1. You could obtain an emergency passport to continue your trip if you loss your BNO, while you cant do so if you hold an HKSAR passport. The chinese embassy have no authority to make an HK emergecy passport as the granting of a HK emergency passport could only be done by the Immigration Office in Hong Kong, not by the Chinese embassy. As a result, the Chinese embassy could only give an A4 paper for you to fly back to Hong Kong.
    2. Some countries in EU/EEA treats BNO as BC holders and offer them EEA tuition fees and benefits as same as BC holders. It is way easier to open a foreign bank account if you present a BNO compared to HK passports.
    3. The citizenship displays as British for BNO holders while it shows Chinese in HK passports. In some countries it would be easier and quicker for us to deal with immigration officers or using some other services. Discrimination to chinese nationals do exists.
    4. The UK embassy provides the same quality of assistance to BNO holders as that of BC. While the chinese embassy offers no help to HK passport holders as they technically do not have the information of the HK passport holders, and ironically they treated HK passport holders as second tier chinese citizens in handling their cases. This was evident when the UK evacuated BNO holders from overseas back to Hong Kong much quicker and lower cost compared to HK passport holders.
    Currently there is a large surge in BNO applications in Hong Kong. The number of renewal applications per year is rising exponentially due to the political unrest and the COVID-19 response to HK citizens overseas.

  • @paciic
    @paciic 4 года назад +10

    12:00 Actually their Parent(s) can get citizenship, then as a Spouse/Child of the Citizen can gain citizenship in the UK

  • @ladaffodilion
    @ladaffodilion 3 года назад

    Hi, Polymatter, your voice is so beautiful.

  • @hoikwanwong299
    @hoikwanwong299 4 года назад

    Thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @xeroxsaw1303
    @xeroxsaw1303 4 года назад +143

    Chinese related topics: Exists
    PollyMatter: *I can milk you*

    • @bobcatdidi8188
      @bobcatdidi8188 4 года назад +1

      Oh yeah It's big brain time

    • @SimonLeeds
      @SimonLeeds 4 года назад +5

      You’re from the mainland right? Mainland sucks.

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 года назад +3

      @@SimonLeeds bait.

    • @G32352443
      @G32352443 4 года назад +1

      @@SimonLeeds shill

  • @tmfan3888
    @tmfan3888 4 года назад +3

    0:19 that railway map is so updated

  • @starboy5615
    @starboy5615 4 года назад +1

    Long time no see

  • @namesell9388
    @namesell9388 4 года назад +1

    Well said!

  • @onnybody
    @onnybody 4 года назад +5

    The statement about Australian, Canadian and New Zealand citizens having the right of abode in the UK in the 1990s at about 4.55 is incorrect. Commonwealth citizens lost that automatic right in 1962.

  • @leung618
    @leung618 4 года назад +11

    10:05 BN(O) has 185 places visa-free(42 visa on arrivals and 6 electronic visas),
    and HKSAR has 170(35 visa on arrivals and 2 electronic visas) at the moment according to Henley Passport Index.

    • @eloy618
      @eloy618 3 года назад +4

      Henley Passport Index does not rank BNO so your source is wrong. A proper UK passport has 185, while BNO has much fewer.

  • @itsshopboy
    @itsshopboy 4 года назад

    Where have you been Evan? I thought about Polymatter yesterday.

  • @tonyreyes1076
    @tonyreyes1076 4 года назад +1

    Great content as always, If I may, can i make a request. Can you please do a video on the business of drug cartels? It would be extremely interesting on how that economy functions, and I cannot think of any other RUclipsr better for this job, thanks. 🙏

  • @PHCuber
    @PHCuber 4 года назад +53

    Hong Kong: rallies
    Polymatter: what’s that? I’m talking about your *passport* .

    • @karl-oppa5261
      @karl-oppa5261 4 года назад +4

      PHCuber
      pinas lang ang gumagamit ng “rally” when describing protests
      “protest” is the right word

    • @nytrex_yt7417
      @nytrex_yt7417 4 года назад +1

      @Karl -oppa You can say rallies as well sometimes and you can’t correct someone if your not an expert at it

    • @chunchoi4434
      @chunchoi4434 4 года назад

      64 memorial gathering is a rally
      What is going on most of the time in Hong Kong is protest.

    • @PHCuber
      @PHCuber 4 года назад +1

      Rallies are protests, period. I’m also from PH btw

  • @silverstar501
    @silverstar501 4 года назад +59

    9:47 Supporting the china by tearing off Photocopies and overdue BNO passport while sending their children to study in UK.... such a powerful support to the great china!
    (slowly clapping my hands.....)

    • @FlylHigh
      @FlylHigh 4 года назад +3

      It's about competition and status. Why complete against millions of other students while there's far less competition oversea. International students have to pay far more than their domestic counterpart, so it shows the family got money as well. That being said, there's international student going to China as well.

    • @achernarchang883
      @achernarchang883 4 года назад +20

      It's a widespread phenomenon not only in HK, but in China at large. Many Chinese "patriots" publicly boast their love for China while, in private, send their offsprings to study abroad and even get foreign citizenships.

    • @SimonLeeds
      @SimonLeeds 4 года назад +3

      That’s like saying all Americans are all racist. And all Russians just drink vodka all day. (Slowly clapping my hands at you...)

    • @leung618
      @leung618 4 года назад +9

      That dude who teared photocopy passport doesn't have a right for holding a BNO passport, he borned after 1997. And the another man teared his cancelled passport lol

    • @achernarchang883
      @achernarchang883 4 года назад +2

      @@SimonLeeds Dunno what made you come to your analogy. Last time I checked, "many" and "all" didn't mean the same.

  • @andrewlin5119
    @andrewlin5119 4 года назад +1

    OMG, I went on the cruise ship in the video like 15 years ago! It was about only 20USD to stay for a night!

  • @everyhandletaken
    @everyhandletaken 4 года назад

    Seems complex.
    I enjoyed looking at the pictures though ✌🏻

  • @user-wf2yd3zb7x
    @user-wf2yd3zb7x 4 года назад +6

    I'm from Hong Kong! Born after handover. I'm 3rd generation Indian, at the handover, China did not want us to be Chinese, thankfully, Hong Kong passports existed, thus we were entitled to them. In '47, I have no doubt that my sole passport will change to a PRC one. The country has modernised and hopefully will not decline based on race.

    • @harry12
      @harry12 4 года назад

      so u have the HK SAR passport? if u have that passport u r considered as "chinese citizen" by PRC.

    • @tristanlau1213
      @tristanlau1213 4 года назад

      What's the colour of your passport? Is it navy blue or white?

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan 4 года назад

      @@harry12 a fair few sportsmen and athletes opted to give up their passport of original nationality so that they could represent Hong Kong

    • @user-wf2yd3zb7x
      @user-wf2yd3zb7x 4 года назад

      @@harry12 Yes, my one and only passport

  • @jeaniechowdury576
    @jeaniechowdury576 3 года назад +4

    What has happened in HK is so tragic.

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 3 года назад

      Same with the US. We'll all get better just give it some time.

    • @martinmendl1399
      @martinmendl1399 3 года назад +1

      @@canto_v12 Hongkong will never get better. China is inevitably going to become the global hegemon for the forseeable future, and Hongkongese identity and democracy will be totally extinguished. It is a tragedy.

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 3 года назад

      @@martinmendl1399 Agree to disagree. In the meantime don't be scared to visit us after vaccination, it's a great place.

  • @amazingmoy
    @amazingmoy Год назад +1

    I want to know your thoughts when the 50-year hand over treaty between PRC and UK in 2048.

  • @icharcoalz5011
    @icharcoalz5011 4 года назад

    Polymatter when it takes weeks to make one video: you can't rush art

  • @aviationnine-tailedfox2216
    @aviationnine-tailedfox2216 4 года назад +3

    Thank you PolyMatter for making a video about Hong Kong.

  • @dhv2852
    @dhv2852 4 года назад +31

    All my love and support to everyone in Hong Kong, keep fighting, the world is watching you.

  • @RuthBaderGainsburg
    @RuthBaderGainsburg 4 года назад

    Great video - minor detail but FYI it’s not true that BNO fill out landing cards when they arrive at the UK border. All landing cards were removed in mid2019, they’re not used by passport holders from anywhere now. Any mention of them online is outdated.

  • @harrislai6656
    @harrislai6656 4 года назад +2

    I really wanted to cry from just watching this video, I'm from HK and just a kid btw...

    • @Brybao
      @Brybao 3 года назад

      Cool