I’ve practiced stoicism for about a year now after an event in my life. It sets you free, I can assure you. Apply it to your everyday life and you will be surprised and most importantly, happier.🖖😀🇦🇺
I live "the simple life." I never realized that it could be defined as Stoicism. Thanks for this discussion, David. A refreshing change and I think we all need a little break from anxiety politics.
@bleepehdeepdoop First off, I'm on a laptop. LOL. But seriously, the simple life is not sweating the small stuff, not being materialistic beyond necessity, being appreciative of that which we have, and going to bed at night knowing that we did our best for ourselves and others. It's somewhat existential so doesn't translate well.
So Nice No predatory Orwellian Electronic Nazism Stasi perpetrators of relentlessly savage Covert Weapons Assaults + Overt Vandalism & Thievery by surreptitious entries to diabolically orchestrated outside distractions to brazenly with the Violence & Kristlnacht kinds of Vandalism there like here/unedited/, Lorna Kim in Eugene, Roman Catholic Joan-Therese _TeachingTolerance.org is Also the essence of Pope Francis💖🎆
Thinking the same thing, was nice to have a discussion on a totally different topic, even if it did come back round to tRUMP and the election, unfortunately
the guide to the good life was a book assigned to me to read by one of my professors and it had such a huge impact on my life. highly recommend to everyone
Stoicism and Taoism ... essential philosophies for human contentment. As I what I truly desire from my own thoughts, emotions and actions, to assess my expectations vs the many uncontrollables, it's made a wonderful difference to how I experience life.
Many people believe Pride is the opposite of shame, and they use this false knowledge to mask it as such. These people are fools. For pride is not the opposite of shame, but it’s source. The only cure for either is humility.
Nice insight but calling another a “fool” is the height of pride, and it is dangerous. A very humble man once said, “But whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.” No condemnation, brother, just saying.
Humility is learned either by being humble - or being humiliated. Pride without gratitude causes a lack of humility. Loving intentions, whether for others or just yourself is the journey. Infinite Love and Gratitude is all there is.
Latin was one of my majors and I loved studying the Stoics. Facing life head-on with fortitude while remaining filled with joy and hope is the ultimate achievement.
*This was very helpful, although I feel I must say easier said than done. All depends on each individual and their mental health, confidence, and everything related.*
Thank you for introducing me to the idea of Stoicism, David. I can see some of the ideas have had a great impact on you and I think we could all learn from rediscovering this ancient wisdom.
I majored in philosophy, minored in psychology. The two disciplines are cut from the same cloth. I loved how much my psychology classes and philosophy classes bounced off of each other.
Great to see David branch out on his subject matter. Love William Irvine and Stoicism. Sam Harris also does some just see, in depth interviews with Irvine. Three of my favorite people, Harris, Packman and Irvine.
Yep buddhism and stoicism have the same definition of success. Take action for the sake of doing good. Do not worry about the outcome. Also same view of the importance of being in the present, accepting the past (karma). When I start to fear i only have to remember these principles :)
Thanks David. It's been a while since i've looked into/practiced stoicism. These have been rough weeks for me (i've got conservative family and I know I cant get throught to them.) I've been letting negative emotions build a lot, so i needed to hear this.
Fantastic interview! Honestly a lot of what he mentions reminds me of David Goggins. They say more or less the same thing but the professor is a bit more elegant in his speech. Will be getting this book for sure. And if you haven’t read “Can’t Hurt Me” by David Goggins I’d highly recommend it.
O r their Grandfather's & beyond in Generations as my Grampa's Mother's Father of the Western Pennsylvania Mountains infantry Regiment Survived Andersonville.. One of Only 5% who walked out🌅🗽💖🌉🌆🎇🎆🎐
And my Friends Uncle who's a Rabbi Survived Auschwitz with my Neighbor a Holocaust Survivor as well: The Shoa Foundation.org + The McCain Institute.org & USHMM.org + RUclips Rupert Mayer _entire Free Movie + singing Prayer + The White Rose Journalists Murdered by the Gestapo, SS, others
Very interesting and helpful. Valuable to focus on something other than the election. I hope you'll have Dr. Irvine back, David. Thank you. Cheryl in AZ
@@luszczi not sure, but that would probably still be something a depressed person might say, contemplating life, kind of thinking its his own fault he's not happy, perhaps? But still relevant, if your in good mental health, hopefully most people are, to choose to be happy and content, unfortunately for some, that's not possible 👍
The host kept baiting Dr. Irvine about politics, and I am glad that he didn't bite. I use to listen to the Sunday Stoic but he called it quits recently. Can anyone suggest a good channel to subscribe to? I am not interested in left leaning politics or any politics for that matter. I hear enough of that throughout the week. Just a solid channel that concentrates on stoicism.
@@emp9413 Yeah it's pretty common. Like, the official psychological association disavowed stoicism (lowercase 's') as toxic for mental health, especially in males. Maybe there's some truth in that, but not in any rigorous understanding of Stoicism. It just has to do with this common perception of perpetual endurance, which seems antithetical to emotional literacy, overly individualistic, and neglectful of communal support.
Only problem here is if you know the thing you're striving for wont make you happy, and what you have doesn't make you happy, options run low. I can't just pretend I'm happy about what I have in relation to past situations. So I'm left to believe happiness is perhaps overrated, and some vague sense of fulfillment at the end of immense suffering might be worth it. I cant know til im there, and im curious, so thats all I got.
Why strive for something that won't make you happy? Take a closer look at what you have. Look for the good aspects and focus on them. It is almost certain that what you have is not all bad. I do that every day and throughout the day. That does not mean all my days are happy and joyful, but some are, and it makes it a lot easier to get through the tough stuff.
A good, loving relationship is possible, if that’s what you’re after. If you’re miserable in your current relationship, for example, there may be something wrong - fixable or not.
@@billdickhaus In response to striving to things that wont make me happy, I'm just thinking along the lines of the Stoics when they say that placing happiness on the future aspirations is a mistake because happiness is more suitably found in the present (and I'll say i've experienced this profoundly--burdening your future goals with true happiness only leads to profound disappointment and deeper sadness). With regards to the good and bad things in my life, daily or in general, I'm not sure happiness has much to do with acknowledging aspects of my life that are in some sense objectively good, which dwarf the bad things. I fully acknowledge the good things in my life all the time: damn there are tons, and I can use framing to realize them fully. But happiness as a way of being remains elusive, and so I'm led to believe it is at most a fleeting emotion--pleasantly transient. I can't even imagine that feeling sustaining. So if my mode of being is generally depressive, and happiness is only just sprinkled in to no effect on my general state, then maybe it's not what it's cut out to be. I do appreciate Stoics though when they speak of eliminating anxiety via framing. That's just really practical, necessary even.
@@JustinMoralesTheComposer Haha nah been single for a couple years now, and my psychological state has really ruined relationships in the past. I don't see myself doing that to another person.
I practice stoicism every day while trying to have a normal life at the same time my neighbor's uneducated and spoiled dog keeps barking the whole day/night.
I really hope, "Americans" dont try to appropiate Stoicism as theirs and make facets like they always do, and ruin what Stoicism is..... just a philosophy of life to be better. Who ever starts these practices, remember to keep your brain smart, and learn the real practices so people dont make a fool or a follower out of you which is the modus operandi of now days. Be smart, care (genuinely) for others, be humble and live an awesome Natural life.
The ideology described here comes across as very conservative to me, so I am not bought here. Progressives love to challenge things for better, rigorously and that of which we find purpose in the politics and can be significantly different from being all so content.
The problem is that the western definition of happiness and wellbeing is closer to “fappiness and wellfeeding”. It’s a play on the “self improvement is masturbation” joke from Fight Club. We are too conditioned to look for pleasures in external fixes of junk-values because that leads to taxable and economically stimulating activities rater than actually fulfilling activities like connecting with each other and nature.
Strangely enough, stoicism is why I don't bother to vote anymore. The world is as exactly as it should be and can't be any other way. I feel like it would be vain and prideful for me to try to control the wills of others. If Trump wins, then that's what was supposed to happen, even if I didn't exist, same with Biden. My only job is to mind my own business to the best of my ability and influence the world as little as is necessary.
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I’m kind of new to your channel and I didn’t anticipate this sort of content. It was a pleasant surprise and very helpful.
I’ve practiced stoicism for about a year now after an event in my life. It sets you free, I can assure you. Apply it to your everyday life and you will be surprised and most importantly, happier.🖖😀🇦🇺
I live "the simple life." I never realized that it could be defined as Stoicism. Thanks for this discussion, David. A refreshing change and I think we all need a little break from anxiety politics.
I live the simple life too. Stuff causes stress.
@bleepehdeepdoop First off, I'm on a laptop. LOL. But seriously, the simple life is not sweating the small stuff, not being materialistic beyond necessity, being appreciative of that which we have, and going to bed at night knowing that we did our best for ourselves and others. It's somewhat existential so doesn't translate well.
Amen!^^ Xoxo
So Nice No predatory Orwellian Electronic Nazism Stasi perpetrators of relentlessly savage Covert Weapons Assaults + Overt Vandalism & Thievery by surreptitious entries to diabolically orchestrated outside distractions to brazenly with the Violence & Kristlnacht kinds of Vandalism there like here/unedited/, Lorna Kim in Eugene, Roman Catholic Joan-Therese _TeachingTolerance.org is Also the essence of Pope Francis💖🎆
Wow my two favorite things in one. We all need to adopt this philosophy, strengthen ourselves tackle what's to come.
For years, this has been my go-to book. It has helped me so much in how to deal with life's difficulties. A must read in my eyes.
I love you David. Thank you for all the things you do. You are very well articulated and knowledgeable 💗
Very interesting topic and interview, I hope you do more programs like this!
GREAT guest David! Thank you.
Just think when we get rid of trump he won’t be dominating media and we can watch meaningful things like this
The political fight will only begin. We need wisdom now and we'll need it then. Its not one or the other.
Thinking the same thing, was nice to have a discussion on a totally different topic, even if it did come back round to tRUMP and the election, unfortunately
I’m watching this and happy even with Trump. It’s a choice.
Yes, because the American media before Trump was dominated by meaningful content, wasn't it? No, it will just continue to be as vapid as ever.
@@mytinyketolife6797 Exactly. We are creatures of habit so we have to cultivate a happy mentality.
These kinds of videos probably wont get huge amounts of views, but I think they're very important. Thank you.
Forward to Friends & Family, & etc And it will^^🌅🌉🗽💖🎄🎁🎈🎉
More of these please.What a change from being interrupted by an ad every three minutes.
the guide to the good life was a book assigned to me to read by one of my professors and it had such a huge impact on my life. highly recommend to everyone
My old auntie used to tell me to know when you are well off. Move forward with purpose. Don't push the river.
Your Auntie was wise! I love - don't push the river. You were blessed to have someone in your life like your Auntie.
We always always say You Can't Push The Tide^^🌅🗽🌉💖🏭🎈
This video combines two of my latest favorite things: David Pakman and learning about Stoicism. Brilliant! Thanks, David. You’re an inspiration. XO
This is a great topic for a show.
Stoicism and Taoism ... essential philosophies for human contentment. As I what I truly desire from my own thoughts, emotions and actions, to assess my expectations vs the many uncontrollables, it's made a wonderful difference to how I experience life.
Many people believe Pride is the opposite of shame, and they use this false knowledge to mask it as such. These people are fools. For pride is not the opposite of shame, but it’s source. The only cure for either is humility.
Yep, uncle Irohs wise words 😎✊🏼
Is that so Shaq?
Nice insight but calling another a “fool” is the height of pride, and it is dangerous. A very humble man once said, “But whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.” No condemnation, brother, just saying.
@bleepehdeepdoop - Pride has two meanings, one positive and one negative.
Humility is learned either by being humble - or being humiliated. Pride without gratitude causes a lack of humility. Loving intentions, whether for others or just yourself is the journey. Infinite Love and Gratitude is all there is.
Latin was one of my majors and I loved studying the Stoics. Facing life head-on with fortitude while remaining filled with joy and hope is the ultimate achievement.
Great book, loving the interview!
Thank you David for sharing with your viewers!
Great interview. New to your channel. Epictetus is the man!!
I've struggled with a fair few of these topics myself. It's surprisingly cathartic to see it explained so well.
I'm good at making mistakes.
I'm a former christian.. this talk was better than church!
Thanks for sharing this David. Much needed.
*This was very helpful, although I feel I must say easier said than done. All depends on each individual and their mental health, confidence, and everything related.*
Thank you for introducing me to the idea of Stoicism, David. I can see some of the ideas have had a great impact on you and I think we could all learn from rediscovering this ancient wisdom.
Thank you for this. Very thoughtful interview. Inspiring.
One of your best with regard to subject matter, content, and timing
Really enjoyed the discussion. Brought the current situation in the USA in to perspective. Big thanks from Ireland.
I majored in philosophy, minored in psychology. The two disciplines are cut from the same cloth. I loved how much my psychology classes and philosophy classes bounced off of each other.
Suppressing emotions is the worst; it only makes them stronger and stagnates energy flow.
Stoicism: Something Trump is completely INCAPABLE of 🤔
Incredible content. Thanks, David and team. Important lessons for everyday life.
Bloom where you are planted
Aye I love Epicurus, he one of my favorite philosophers 😄😄😄 the homies are the key to happiness 😎
Socrates and Epictetus were my first love :)
Thanks very much David this was enlightening.
Y’all need to buy his book. It’s so good
This is really something great to hear for someone with depression, thanks, David!
Great to see David branch out on his subject matter. Love William Irvine and Stoicism. Sam Harris also does some just see, in depth interviews with Irvine. Three of my favorite people, Harris, Packman and Irvine.
Yep buddhism and stoicism have the same definition of success. Take action for the sake of doing good. Do not worry about the outcome. Also same view of the importance of being in the present, accepting the past (karma). When I start to fear i only have to remember these principles :)
@bleepehdeepdoop depends what u mean by clout lol
"Contenment is the best wealth" it is an actual quote from Buddhist scriptures. ☸️🙏
Thanks David. It's been a while since i've looked into/practiced stoicism. These have been rough weeks for me (i've got conservative family and I know I cant get throught to them.) I've been letting negative emotions build a lot, so i needed to hear this.
This was fascinating! Thank you David!
I read/bought the book and certainly found it helpful in bringing a grounded perspective to ones day-to-day life and existence.
Very interesting. Thanks to the two men.
Awesome! I graduated from Wright State a few years ago, I wish I could have taken his class!
brilliant conversation
The Serenity Prayer
God grant me the serenity to accept what I can not change courage to change what I can and the wisdom to know the difference.
SERENITY NOW! SERENITY NOW!!
Fantastic interview! Honestly a lot of what he mentions reminds me of David Goggins. They say more or less the same thing but the professor is a bit more elegant in his speech. Will be getting this book for sure. And if you haven’t read “Can’t Hurt Me” by David Goggins I’d highly recommend it.
I really needed to hear this
I adore philosophy it’s gonna be my minor
@Xai stoicism and buddhism are my foundation.
Good for you. You'll be well equipped!
good for you, a Minor for your mind and a Major for your income ;)
@@charlesku4308 exactly!
@@emp9413 thank you 😁
Beautiful 🙏🙏
He neglected to mention it was the women in the lives of these Stoics who taught them everything they knew but never got credit for that thinking.
O r their Grandfather's & beyond in Generations as my Grampa's Mother's Father of the Western Pennsylvania Mountains infantry Regiment Survived Andersonville.. One of Only 5% who walked out🌅🗽💖🌉🌆🎇🎆🎐
And my Friends Uncle who's a Rabbi Survived Auschwitz with my Neighbor a Holocaust Survivor as well: The Shoa Foundation.org + The McCain Institute.org & USHMM.org + RUclips Rupert Mayer _entire Free Movie + singing Prayer + The White Rose Journalists Murdered by the Gestapo, SS, others
Thank you, David. Great topic, great guest. 🙏
Very interesting and helpful. Valuable to focus on something other than the election. I hope you'll have Dr. Irvine back, David. Thank you. Cheryl in AZ
As a determinist stoicism is that natural and logical conclusion
"Change your thoughts and you will change your world" Marcus Aurelius.
Very interesting & intelligent discourse^^🌅🌉🗽💖💖💖💖🎁
I love stoicism. 💚🌿💚
This guy: stoisism is good.
People in the Chat: I'm stoic!
I'm Buddhist!
I'm stoic, Buddhist AND humble!
Very interesting podcast!
Lincoln said " people are as happy as the decide to be".
Trump says people will be as happy as I tell them they are 😆👍
A great Lincoln quote by the way 👌
Didn't Lincoln suffer from depression his whole life?
@@luszczi not sure, but that would probably still be something a depressed person might say, contemplating life, kind of thinking its his own fault he's not happy, perhaps? But still relevant, if your in good mental health, hopefully most people are, to choose to be happy and content, unfortunately for some, that's not possible 👍
Clint Eastwood is my favorite stoic.
"learn to want the things you already have"
The host kept baiting Dr. Irvine about politics, and I am glad that he didn't bite. I use to listen to the Sunday Stoic but he called it quits recently. Can anyone suggest a good channel to subscribe to? I am not interested in left leaning politics or any politics for that matter. I hear enough of that throughout the week. Just a solid channel that concentrates on stoicism.
Can you have this guy back on as a regular guest to give the stoic's perspective on current events?
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, also "Closing time" from 90's alternative rock band Semisonic
Funny you did this, I recently read the same book.
*Anxiety is my number one issue.*
I was literally researching this. 🥴😬
How prescient of you!
Me as well. I find it is helping me deal with the stress of this time.
Stoicism: not toxic masculinity.
Yes!
Of course. I didnt know ppl oversimplify it like that. It's just the wisdom to endure challenges and fulfill our purpose.
oh shut up
@@morlu8281 are u OK lol
@@emp9413 Yeah it's pretty common. Like, the official psychological association disavowed stoicism (lowercase 's') as toxic for mental health, especially in males. Maybe there's some truth in that, but not in any rigorous understanding of Stoicism. It just has to do with this common perception of perpetual endurance, which seems antithetical to emotional literacy, overly individualistic, and neglectful of communal support.
Philly is burning and I am not seeing anyone talking about it online.
i like 'the art of worldly wisdom' by baltasar gracien
Only problem here is if you know the thing you're striving for wont make you happy, and what you have doesn't make you happy, options run low. I can't just pretend I'm happy about what I have in relation to past situations. So I'm left to believe happiness is perhaps overrated, and some vague sense of fulfillment at the end of immense suffering might be worth it. I cant know til im there, and im curious, so thats all I got.
Why strive for something that won't make you happy? Take a closer look at what you have. Look for the good aspects and focus on them. It is almost certain that what you have is not all bad. I do that every day and throughout the day. That does not mean all my days are happy and joyful, but some are, and it makes it a lot easier to get through the tough stuff.
A good, loving relationship is possible, if that’s what you’re after. If you’re miserable in your current relationship, for example, there may be something wrong - fixable or not.
@@billdickhaus In response to striving to things that wont make me happy, I'm just thinking along the lines of the Stoics when they say that placing happiness on the future aspirations is a mistake because happiness is more suitably found in the present (and I'll say i've experienced this profoundly--burdening your future goals with true happiness only leads to profound disappointment and deeper sadness). With regards to the good and bad things in my life, daily or in general, I'm not sure happiness has much to do with acknowledging aspects of my life that are in some sense objectively good, which dwarf the bad things. I fully acknowledge the good things in my life all the time: damn there are tons, and I can use framing to realize them fully. But happiness as a way of being remains elusive, and so I'm led to believe it is at most a fleeting emotion--pleasantly transient. I can't even imagine that feeling sustaining. So if my mode of being is generally depressive, and happiness is only just sprinkled in to no effect on my general state, then maybe it's not what it's cut out to be. I do appreciate Stoics though when they speak of eliminating anxiety via framing. That's just really practical, necessary even.
@@JustinMoralesTheComposer Haha nah been single for a couple years now, and my psychological state has really ruined relationships in the past. I don't see myself doing that to another person.
@@NeyoBearGaming gotcha. I definitely didn’t mean that YOU were the problem. Happiness is one of those feeling that isn’t supposed to be constant.
Is Stoic training diametrically opposed to the notion of a safe space, especially in university environments? Seems like it?
What need is there to cry over parts of life? The whole of it calls for tears.
I have this book!
I practice stoicism every day while trying to have a normal life at the same time my neighbor's uneducated and spoiled dog keeps barking the whole day/night.
Stoicism and three arrows ftw 😎🤘
I really hope, "Americans" dont try to appropiate Stoicism as theirs and make facets like they always do, and ruin what Stoicism is..... just a philosophy of life to be better. Who ever starts these practices, remember to keep your brain smart, and learn the real practices so people dont make a fool or a follower out of you which is the modus operandi of now days. Be smart, care (genuinely) for others, be humble and live an awesome Natural life.
Words up: Stoic Joy
Interesting, @13:57 he describes the appeal of the game of golf
I’m a stoic
I consider myself one
I’m wanting to have stoic joy...I must stop being a whining person
I've just started learning how to be a stoic.
The ideology described here comes across as very conservative to me, so I am not bought here. Progressives love to challenge things for better, rigorously and that of which we find purpose in the politics and can be significantly different from being all so content.
Recognise your virtues and build on them. You can gain other virtues.
Stoicism in three words:
Deal with it...
I am a philosopher for hire.
Let me spare you the video.
Summary: be grateful.
I thought it was about Sargon of Akkad when i saw the thumbnail.
Haha. Sargon has gone off the deep end with Trumpism. He insists he’s a liberal and fawns over autocratic right wingers
The problem is that the western definition of happiness and wellbeing is closer to “fappiness and wellfeeding”. It’s a play on the “self improvement is masturbation” joke from Fight Club. We are too conditioned to look for pleasures in external fixes of junk-values because that leads to taxable and economically stimulating activities rater than actually fulfilling activities like connecting with each other and nature.
Seems like stoicism partly promote the perspective of Buddhism.
Stoics: Belief is ☝️wisdom is 🤚 experience is ✊ knowledge is 🤝
Skeptics: 🖕 wut dis den?
Totally sounds like The Dude Lebowski, dude...
Throwaway society
Hopefully not persistent
Damn Stoicism has become too vogue. We need to bring Kantian ethics into pop culture.
Nice change, even if tRUMP and the election still got in there, great discussion 👌
Like central banks keep overcoming the last disaster?
Can stoicism be confused with denial?
Strangely enough, stoicism is why I don't bother to vote anymore. The world is as exactly as it should be and can't be any other way. I feel like it would be vain and prideful for me to try to control the wills of others. If Trump wins, then that's what was supposed to happen, even if I didn't exist, same with Biden. My only job is to mind my own business to the best of my ability and influence the world as little as is necessary.
First