I bought this EBIKE about 3 weeks ago Really was seriously damaged in shipping and handling this company never ever got back to me not at all Amazon promised to give my money back that never happened
I actually ordered one of these China Amazon dual motor bikes, it even had dual suspension and 23 ah battery (most others have 22 ah battery and no rear suspension) all for 1400$. Even came with a 3 amp charger! But After tough reconsideration I canceled my order and ordered the new 2024 wired freedom. It’s a lot more expensive but I figured it’s several mph faster (40 mph vs 34-35 on these) , little bit better 25 ah battery with Samsung cells (Amazon China bikes are unnamed) , better controller, name brand motor even though it’s single motor it’s 2300 watts compared to 2000 on these, name brand tires, 180mm Tektro brakes (these are 160 ), large color completely customizable screen and settings, adjustable name brand rear suspension, high quality name brand front suspension fork, name brand tires, and the bike looks amazing the paint job is fantastic. So higher speed, all name brand parts and better battery convinced me to dish out another 800$ over one of these…. But I’ve got to say these Amazon China dual motors are damn good for the money. Also if you’re mostly riding off road dual motor is better than single anyway regardless of price and quality
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m That orange is super nice but i had to go with the blue..i guess both are incredible in person.The company seems to be really passionate about the bikes also.
@user-kp2zz8zp9b I have my eyes on the K800 PRO as well. Does the second controller mounted near the back tire cause any problems rubbing against the tire/fender?
My only con to these cheaper ebikes is none of the manufactures advertise the brand of cells used to make the battery . The batteries are the #1 most inportant factor to me for the longevity of of your bike along with the motor . Of course you can always purchase an after market battery of your own choosing later but that just adds up $$$$.
Very good point!Ironically i had a battery issue and the company who manufactures the bike (MOYO- link in description) is supposed to be sending me a replacement part this week.I will be doing a video about it shortly👍🏼
Of course it’s. It named brand it’s cheaper which is why the power to price ratio is good . I see your concern but have you bought one yet ? And used and unbranded battery? Cause I have twice it’s it lasted a long time idk how much these bikes do but my philodo which is similar to this on on the video it was fine I did 5k miles stock now I feel it slower but man I was always using throttle and it did great .
Hello Hello From Canada!!! This was an awesome review and I don't usually subscribe after the first video but you did such a good job I had to check out more of your channel. Once you are done all your testing, it would be a super follow up vid after you tweak settings and such to see if it can be over volted to get MAX performance. Keep up the great content. 🤘😁👍
Hey there!Thanks for the kind words.i’ll have a follow up here shortly.Also will be reviewing the Wired freedom ebike when they are back in stock,hopefully end of may👍🏼
The most important question should be if you will be able to pedal it home, should your battery ever die on the road! I'll pass on the fat tires & fat weight. Still a good looking bike!
My 1200$ 750w/1000 will do 32 mph PAS when the battery is >50% and I weigh 210 lbs. disappointing to hear the relative slow speed of this bike. But not too surprised I heard these dual motors often are slower but more powerful for off-road and more torque for uphill . Trade offs
Yeah it is limited in top speed compared to some others i would agree but more torquey i would say.This bike is fun to ride but we will see how it stacks up to the wired freedom next on the review list!
The difference in speed between this and the Philodo is probably that the Philodo peaks at 1300 watts per motor at 48 volts where this one is most likely a 1000 watt peak simply the difference between the 21ah controller this has compared to the 27 AH ones the Philodo has, 48 x 21 compared to 48x 27
@@faraci5617 yours might have 2 controllers also. Some of these came with a controller built into the Battery tray. However that one is limited to 21 amps I think Philodo decided to go with the separate tray and controller so they could use the 27 amp ones
Yeah but doesn't it have generic friggin battery cells in it, that's what I heard, is this correct,or not?? Really need to know..... Can you confirm please???
My apologies if i did not cover it in the video..so on the left side of the handlebar there is a little control pad that has some basic functions on it like on/off etc.on that pad there is a plus button on top and minus button on the bottom that will change your peddle assist higher and lower accordingly.it is conveniently operated with your left thumb👍🏼
This looks like a copy of the Philodo H8, but with a smaller battery and possibly weaker controllers The H8 comes with a 22 Ah battery and 27 amp controllers, the philodo runs 1359$ for amazon prime members currently btw
Yeah this brand now has a 22ah battery as well,i apparently got the last of the 15ah left in stock..it was advertised as 20ah which i took up with amazon when i got it.There were some crazy deals on the philodo h8 just a couple days ago!!I even saw it for $1050 with free shipping at one point 😳!Next up to review is the wired freedom so we will see how it is at the next level👍🏼
I think the REAL company that makes these bikes is SLMRO. There are a bunch of other vendors that sell what is essentially the same bike, but they might swap components.
Yeah im sure most everything on the two bikes come from the same factory except for the controller.my understanding is the philodo will do 35mph which is a good 7mph more than this model.
The second motor greatly affects the torque and power to the pavement but only seems to add a couple extra mph top end..that is up to the controller..you can unlock it but i have a wired freedom on the way that will do 41mph so 29 mph for this one is fine
@@lvonbeat81 I didn’t bother.I did turn it up all the way in the menu setting but that didnt do much..i was getting a wired freedom which does 40mph so i didnt bother looking into unlocking this bike to be honest
Easily..That is its best attribute due to the dual motors.Lots of torque!I usually just use one motor to save battery then turn on the second motor for hills
@@kevinbreese5739 it’s $1299 free shipping on amazon and their website.Listed as $1399 on amazon but has a $100 coupon you can click.You were looking at the v-rong listing,there’s another for Keteles👍🏼
26 mph is way fast on a bike. In your opinion, could this bike pull a small bike camping trailer of about 100 lbs? P.S. I don't think I saw you stop at one stop sign. What's up with that? Thanks for posting.
You are right 26 is plenty fast..feels faster than you would think.I had to get a new battery when it gets here i will test the torque further but with both motors engaged the torque is incredible!more e-bike testing soon👍🏼
Pretty much everything is the same,there are some slight differences.The main thing is the controller on this one comes restricting top speed to to 28mph and from my understanding the philodo can do 35mph right out of the box
I already bought this 2000 w deal mother EBIKE about 3 weeks ago my Ebike was Really was seriously damaged By shipping in Hamilton my Ebike was impossible to repair I paid a extra one Hubbard Dollars 💵 for insurance i contact this EBIKE company This EBIKE company never ever got back to me not at all Amazon promised to give my money back only Amazon never ever gave me my money back not at all believe it or not
@@qsnakegaming8932 hey I think I figured it out... turn bike on and then hold the plus and minus button together, cycle thru to 08p setting and press the i button. Change bottom number from 50 to 62. Hold i button to save and exit
Not tubeless. I've bought all my tires and tubes off Amazon. These days there's no problem finding them in-stock. Though all my ebike tires are 20×4 and 20×3 and i can find replacements easy these days. Fast charging a battery is determined by the bms that controls the battery. The battery might not be able to take a fast charge. I doubt it can because if it could it would be an advertised feature. That would be a really good selling point!
I dont think we have a problem with that here.I actually talked to a cop making this video (cant remember if i edited it out)and he thought it was pretty cool.Are other people having issues with this elsewhere?
I bought this EBIKE about 3 weeks ago Really was seriously damaged in shipping and handling this company never ever got back to me not at all Amazon promised to give my money back that never happened
I actually ordered one of these China Amazon dual motor bikes, it even had dual suspension and 23 ah battery (most others have 22 ah battery and no rear suspension) all for 1400$. Even came with a 3 amp charger! But After tough reconsideration I canceled my order and ordered the new 2024 wired freedom. It’s a lot more expensive but I figured it’s several mph faster (40 mph vs 34-35 on these) , little bit better 25 ah battery with Samsung cells (Amazon China bikes are unnamed) , better controller, name brand motor even though it’s single motor it’s 2300 watts compared to 2000 on these, name brand tires, 180mm Tektro brakes (these are 160 ), large color completely customizable screen and settings, adjustable name brand rear suspension, high quality name brand front suspension fork, name brand tires, and the bike looks amazing the paint job is fantastic. So higher speed, all name brand parts and better battery convinced me to dish out another 800$ over one of these…. But I’ve got to say these Amazon China dual motors are damn good for the money. Also if you’re mostly riding off road dual motor is better than single anyway regardless of price and quality
Ironic you should mention the wired freedom,that is my next bike to review.should have it by the end of january👍🏼
@@faraci5617 me too. What color did you order I got orange.
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m That orange is super nice but i had to go with the blue..i guess both are incredible in person.The company seems to be really passionate about the bikes also.
@@faraci5617 yea most seem to go with the blue so I felt I just had to be different lol. All the reviews on this bike seem to be extremely positive
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m understandable.well i guess we’ll both find out soon👍🏼
I have the Keteles K800 Pro dual suspension dual motor bike and it's great.
Cant really beat it for the money!👍🏼
What´s the real top speed in a flat road?
Thanks in advance.
@@joaomatos9194 This one only does about 29mph tops..It is capable of easily doing the claimed 35mph but is restricted.
@@faraci5617there is a RUclips video showing how to remove restriction 40 + mph
@user-kp2zz8zp9b I have my eyes on the K800 PRO as well. Does the second controller mounted near the back tire cause any problems rubbing against the tire/fender?
My only con to these cheaper ebikes is none of the manufactures advertise the brand of cells used to make the battery . The batteries are the #1 most inportant factor to me for the longevity of of your bike along with the motor . Of course you can always purchase an after market battery of your own choosing later but that just adds up $$$$.
Very good point!Ironically i had a battery issue and the company who manufactures the bike (MOYO- link in description) is supposed to be sending me a replacement part this week.I will be doing a video about it shortly👍🏼
Battery 's need to know. What brand of motor 's?
Of course it’s. It named brand it’s cheaper which is why the power to price ratio is good . I see your concern but have you bought one yet ? And used and unbranded battery? Cause I have twice it’s it lasted a long time idk how much these bikes do but my philodo which is similar to this on on the video it was fine I did 5k miles stock now I feel it slower but man I was always using throttle and it did great .
Hello Hello From Canada!!! This was an awesome review and I don't usually subscribe after the first video but you did such a good job I had to check out more of your channel. Once you are done all your testing, it would be a super follow up vid after you tweak settings and such to see if it can be over volted to get MAX performance. Keep up the great content.
🤘😁👍
Hey there!Thanks for the kind words.i’ll have a follow up here shortly.Also will be reviewing the Wired freedom ebike when they are back in stock,hopefully end of may👍🏼
I just got a 2kw duel motor in transit, pretty similar to this i think, nice video :)
Nice!Its a great bike.I have a little battery issue,as soon as i get it resolved i’ll crank out some more videos.Enjoy your bike👍🏼
Looks pretty good👍🏼
Looks good for a piece of junk
I got mines today And heard the same rubbing noise on the front tire also, does it ever stop?
The most important question should be if you will be able to pedal it home, should your battery ever die on the road! I'll pass on the fat tires & fat weight. Still a good looking bike!
Its a valid point for sure…i wouldn’t want to pedal this very far with a dead battery that is for sure!
That's why you invest in carrying a 2nd battery in a backpack. Or just mounting a 2nd one on the bike rack. Zero range anxiety.
My 1200$ 750w/1000 will do 32 mph PAS when the battery is >50% and I weigh 210 lbs. disappointing to hear the relative slow speed of this bike. But not too surprised I heard these dual motors often are slower but more powerful for off-road and more torque for uphill . Trade offs
Yeah it is limited in top speed compared to some others i would agree but more torquey i would say.This bike is fun to ride but we will see how it stacks up to the wired freedom next on the review list!
it will go 35 mph just unlock the speed!
@@royglover415how can I unlock the speed?
The difference in speed between this and the Philodo is probably that the Philodo peaks at 1300 watts per motor at 48 volts where this one is most likely a 1000 watt peak simply the difference between the 21ah controller this has compared to the 27 AH ones the Philodo has, 48 x 21 compared to 48x 27
Ahhh i see..i noticed the philodo has an controller for each motor with the additional one being in a triangular bag just beneath the seat.
@@faraci5617 yours might have 2 controllers also. Some of these came with a controller built into the Battery tray. However that one is limited to 21 amps I think Philodo decided to go with the separate tray and controller so they could use the 27 amp ones
@@chuckwolf9869 interesting..thanks for the insight.Happy hollidays!
@@faraci5617all the Chinese bikes list peak power not real time power you got a 750 watt not 1000
No it's totally in the speed restriction all them bikes philodo keteles and so on are the same bikes made by the same manufacturer
Go into the settings and adjust speed I think it's program 8
I adjusted it all the way up…I have the new upgraded wired freedom coming soon..that will do 42mph!Honestly 30 is plenty fast on an e-bike imo👍🏼
Can repair parts be obtained for these bikes. Have not located a website to purchase parts
Go to the link in the description..it will take you to their website.Send them an email if you dont see the parts you need👍🏼
Only buy foreign products when you have domestically (partner shops)approved repair services!!!
That’s probably good advice👍🏼
What are the controller specs?
10 amp haha
@@royglover415 no way. Funny
Yeah but doesn't it have generic friggin battery cells in it, that's what I heard, is this correct,or not?? Really need to know..... Can you confirm please???
how do you change the differnt biking modes?
My apologies if i did not cover it in the video..so on the left side of the handlebar there is a little control pad that has some basic functions on it like on/off etc.on that pad there is a plus button on top and minus button on the bottom that will change your peddle assist higher and lower accordingly.it is conveniently operated with your left thumb👍🏼
Are the motors easy to replace or repair?
I haven’t had any issues with the motors so not sure.
I have a philodo H8 it’s been awesome. I’ve rode the shit outta it and I’m 6’8 275 lbs riding near Seattle so lots of bills
Yeah the philodo H8 is a great bike for sure!Has plenty of power and torque for a bigger rider👍🏼
I had to order one
Congrats!enjoy
This looks like a copy of the Philodo H8, but with a smaller battery and possibly weaker controllers The H8 comes with a 22 Ah battery and 27 amp controllers, the philodo runs 1359$ for amazon prime members currently btw
Yeah this brand now has a 22ah battery as well,i apparently got the last of the 15ah left in stock..it was advertised as 20ah which i took up with amazon when i got it.There were some crazy deals on the philodo h8 just a couple days ago!!I even saw it for $1050 with free shipping at one point 😳!Next up to review is the wired freedom so we will see how it is at the next level👍🏼
Philodo is the same bike same facility same bike same battery same forks same tires
I think the REAL company that makes these bikes is SLMRO. There are a bunch of other vendors that sell what is essentially the same bike, but they might swap components.
I'm looking at a BigNiu 2000w. I can't find ANY reviews for them though.
I’m not familiar with that model.There are so many 2000w out there currently👍🏼
Does this bike have pass through charging? Put a battery bank on a rack and charge while riding?
Yeah i could strap my pecron 600 on the rack and go to miami and back!
Awesome 😂
Is this legit did you order from Amazon or the manufacturer and how long it take
I got mine from Amazon for a grand total of $1,180.88. I ordered the Baolujie on July 23rd and it came on the 31st. Good luck!
My bike looks just like that except it's a philodo. Just minor differences
Yeah im sure most everything on the two bikes come from the same factory except for the controller.my understanding is the philodo will do 35mph which is a good 7mph more than this model.
@@faraci5617 yeah and a nice straight away I got it to do about 35.5 or so
Does it have cruise mode?
I don`t think so, I like cruise control with my car.
Talking about how if you need to go 35 to 40mph the bike may not be for you because it's illegal, while blowing through stop signs. LMFAO! Cheers!
Lol..I guess i’m a “do as i say not as i do”..kind of guy🤷🏻♂️
Were you riding using only one motor this video? Because if you were that would explaining why it’s only 26 mph
The second motor greatly affects the torque and power to the pavement but only seems to add a couple extra mph top end..that is up to the controller..you can unlock it but i have a wired freedom on the way that will do 41mph so 29 mph for this one is fine
@@faraci5617 do you know how to unlock this bike from the controller?
@@lvonbeat81 I didn’t bother.I did turn it up all the way in the menu setting but that didnt do much..i was getting a wired freedom which does 40mph so i didnt bother looking into unlocking this bike to be honest
@@faraci5617 If you can figure out how to unlock this bike from the controller, please tell me how because ive been trying to figure it out.
how easily does this climb hills on throttle only?
Easily..That is its best attribute due to the dual motors.Lots of torque!I usually just use one motor to save battery then turn on the second motor for hills
K800 pro is 1250 plus tax free shipping
Good option!
I'm seeing $1599
@@kevinbreese5739 it’s $1299 free shipping on amazon and their website.Listed as $1399 on amazon but has a $100 coupon you can click.You were looking at the v-rong listing,there’s another for Keteles👍🏼
How much price
$1100..link in description for more info👍🏼
Will this bike work for a 6’ tall rider
Most definitely..it caters more to the taller rider than the shorter👍🏼
26 mph is way fast on a bike. In your opinion, could this bike pull a small bike camping trailer of about 100 lbs? P.S. I don't think I saw you stop at one stop sign. What's up with that? Thanks for posting.
You are right 26 is plenty fast..feels faster than you would think.I had to get a new battery when it gets here i will test the torque further but with both motors engaged the torque is incredible!more e-bike testing soon👍🏼
isnt that a philodo H8? or is an exact copy tf
Pretty much everything is the same,there are some slight differences.The main thing is the controller on this one comes restricting top speed to to 28mph and from my understanding the philodo can do 35mph right out of the box
Anybody have the Manuel? Would like it sent to me
I`ll sell you a copy of mine for $75.00!
I already bought this 2000 w deal mother EBIKE about 3 weeks ago my Ebike was Really was seriously damaged By shipping in Hamilton my Ebike was impossible to repair I paid a extra one Hubbard Dollars 💵 for insurance i contact this EBIKE company This EBIKE company never ever got back to me not at all
Amazon promised to give my money back only Amazon never ever gave me my money back not at all believe it or not
Learn how to unlock bike speed bro! This bike can go 35 mph Easly. Your review on bike speed is wrong dude. False info you give on bike speed
It was a review of the bike just as it comes out of the box.Sure this can do 35 just like the philodo and other similar spec bikes if unlocked.
@@faraci5617 @royglover415 How do you unlock this bike?
How can I unlock it?
@@qsnakegaming8932 hey I think I figured it out... turn bike on and then hold the plus and minus button together, cycle thru to 08p setting and press the i button. Change bottom number from 50 to 62. Hold i button to save and exit
@@CyborgFish how fast did it make it)
I payed 3800.00 usd for a Super 73. It's a piece of crap.
I wondered what people thought of those..is it just the moped style you dont like or the bike is junk?
Why aren't you stopping for stop signs? Very dangerous.
Whats is a good gore upgrade? Are these tubeless and then we need tubes and new tires ?
Whats a good faster charger too?
thx
Not tubeless. I've bought all my tires and tubes off Amazon. These days there's no problem finding them in-stock. Though all my ebike tires are 20×4 and 20×3 and i can find replacements easy these days. Fast charging a battery is determined by the bms that controls the battery. The battery might not be able to take a fast charge. I doubt it can because if it could it would be an advertised feature. That would be a really good selling point!
Still a lot of money for something that can be confiscated by the police.
I dont think we have a problem with that here.I actually talked to a cop making this video (cant remember if i edited it out)and he thought it was pretty cool.Are other people having issues with this elsewhere?
is the battery easy to remove i want a heads up before i order mine.
Extremely easy to remove yes just unlock with the key and slide it upwards👍🏼