the leadership of the religion also just announced (after i filmed) that people dont have to report the time they spend knocking on doors anymore. interesting development. not sure what it means or how it connects to the rest of the story yet
Pretty sure this is just to artificially inflate their dwindling membership... according to their jw website 'memebership' is only counting those 'active' in ministry... by removing those standards, membership will skyrocket, or at least not be lower than global birthrate which is where it is now....
when a cult can no longer recruit new people it has to tighten its grip on the members it has that much harder and fear has always been the go to method
Yep, that's exactly what's happening. I could feel the turning point starting right as I left in about 2014 when the "governing body" became more public and much more explicit about how hardcore they want people to be. The energy in the whole "community" shifted and you could feel that people's gears were turning, trying to decide just how serious they were.
@ogreadmore3046 Quite a few of them drink but they're not allowed to get drunk. Wonder what the cutoff line is? When you're feeling good, when you start to slur your words or when you call on Jehovah to give you more whiskey.
A JW woman and her tween daughter came to my door. I mentioned to the lady that I was born with erythroblastosis fetalis. I was RH positive and my mom was RH-. This meant that in order to survive after birth I needed to total body blood transfusions. I asked the woman if she would have denied her daughter those blood transfusions if it meant her death. She said no blood transfusions. I told her daughter "do you hear what your mom is saying? She would have let you die after being born." I hope that girl escapes these crazy people that interpret whatever they want from the bible.
My best friend was born with a heart defect. He could have got it fixed as a kid but it required a blood transfusion, which his JW parents forbid. When he was old enough to decide for himself it was too late and he died of heart failure at 29. JWs just plain suck.
I'm sure that my mother would have denied any of us a blood transfusion when we were growing up. I'm not a believer, nor have I ever been one but I still have relatives who are. I'm totally aware that they believe my brothers and I deserve to die because we think their religion is bs.
If I get two women at the door, I like to quote the verses about women not being allowed to preach with a horrified look on my face and then shut the door. And I'm a mature aged woman.
If you're outside of the cult yes, for people inside the group the fear that already was will be build up. This is what JW'S do: its the last part of the last days of the end of time and of the final days of the latest part of the latest of days and perhaps the last day of all the days of all time
In typical Watchtower fashion the '75 thing was stated _just_ vaguely enough that they could turn around and shame people for reading that much into it. Just like this video: It's presented as a theoretical soon-to-happen thinf rather than an official shift, so people can take it or leave it depending on how hardcore they are. For now, at least.
@@colbyboucher6391 Right, and then the wt can gaslight the rank and file when the circumstances that they inferred were announced by the wt fail to transpire 😂, just as with the 1975 debacle…
When I was 13, I rolled over in bed to my mother in the doorway. She was waking me for yet another traumatic brainwashing Kingdom Hall. I looked her dead in the eyes, flipped her the bird and said “I’m never going back”. It still took decades for me to unwind the damage. Subconsciously I was always expecting the world to end. These people need to stop hurting kids.
Yeah sure...then she whooped your petulant little ass. I dont like these guys very much but no one is impressed by you being nasty to the woman who just wanted the best for you, flawed as her thinking was
I had two Jehova's Witnesses give me a pamphlet at work last week and this was the first time interacting with a JW since coming across your channel and I noticed the absent smiles. I jokingly told my buddy that the world was ending (this is what made them talk to me) and they were like "You're more correct than you realize" that encounter hits a little different after watching this
You should treat these cultists as you would anyone who has escaped a Derron Brown show before he breaks them of their suggestive trance. Don't say a word just guide them away from your presence. If they fight back then either call the police, social services or a doctor.
@@PopirnotKingdom Halls are plotted up everywhere across the US and UK and likely around Europe as well. Seriously this cult is everywhere. It's why China was very strict about getting this Abrahamic shit out of people's heads. The Christian and fundamentalist Islamic cults are monsters who have caused untold damage to society right under everyone's noses; and continue to do so. Tax free.
You are right to think we are coming to the end of the world…..the world as we know it. The world ruled by corrupt man is about to be taken away from them. It’s going to be handed over to Christ’s government and will last for a thousand years. He will rule with justice, kindness and will show us…teach us, how to live in harmony. We won’t see him but he will be ruling. We won’t see him throwing the devil into the abyss but we will certainly feel the relief of not having his evil influence on us anymore. Rev: 20. J W ‘s think we are staring at Armageddon but that’s not coming for another thousand years. Billions alive right now, yourself included will very shortly see and feel the effects of his millennium reign. Klaus Schwab or the U N is not going to get control of us. They’re espousing just a hopeful wish of a prisoner waiting for his cell doors to slam shut for the whole millennium reign.
In the early 1980's I had a series of study sessions with JW's because my friend was in the cult. I was allowed to experience many religions as a child, whichever I wanted, or none at all. One of the things my parents did right. Anyway, after we moved a couple young men came knocking. We had rescued and raised a baby raccoon, who, when they knocked on the door, jumped up and latched his claws into the screen door, rattling it and screaming/chattering at them! I think they thought they saw the devil incarnate! Still can't recall a time I've seen anyone run faster in a tie and dress shoes!
I have no pity for idiots who follow this crap. They have access to information. Their kids attend school -where they can learn and get the hell out ASAP. What a bunch of assholes they are.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
I’ve been disfellowshiped since 1980 They are the absolute worst! I appreciate this channel and hope it shows folks the danger of Jehovahs witnesses They caused my mothers suicide and almost had me die of cancer! Such a violent and dangerous organization
@breevail368 I'm so sorry for your loss--your many losses--and hope you've been able to access help to process so much trauma. I too was df'd in the 80s, twice, and know that you had zero community like today's vast XJW community to help you leave and reorient life to the outside. I'm so glad you got out!! Sending warm healing energy and love. 💔❤🩹💚🤍
Like you, I too am a former JW. Only, instead of being disfellowshiped by them, I denounced them in their hall to their faces just before I left them for good. That was in 1980 also
Jehovahs killed my grandma. She was a bipolar abused divorcee raising her son alone. They roped her in with their promises of community, then convinced her the world was ending, and tried to push her to disown my father for not going along. They put so much psychological stress on her that she killed herself in the garage with the carbon monoxide from her car. Left my dad to find her dead at 17 and caused generational trauma to my family. Its extremely sad, especially because all my grandma needed was a positive community and they manipulated her into cutting ties with those who cared about her, going off her medication, and kept brainwashing her that judgement day was coming. The worst is the fact that all she had was her son and they tried forcing her into "its him or us". Its such an evil cult, and its so sad how many lives will be ruined by being connected to the cult. My dad was never in it but lost his mom, got severe ptsd. I was never in it, but the trauma caused my dad to be an angry person and passed it onto me. And my grandma is dead. All because someone knocked on her door with a smile, and manipulated a sad lonely woman looking for something to be a part of. Its incredibly sad.
I absolutely feel this, and I'm so sorry. My uncle used to be a witness and he committed murder. After he left the religion it really messed him up, my grandparents disowned him. He ended up turning to drugs and one day shot his girlfriend in the face. My entire family would've been so much better off if this religion didn't exist. They're truly cruel and evil people. I sympathize for all those people on the Jehovahs Witness subreddit like he mentioned. I can't imagine how terrifying it is leaving, being told you'll lose everything including family, being told you'll be damned after death. It breaks my heart.
My condolences to your family, I hope you are able to heal from this trauma. My grandma was JW too, she got excommunicated cause she refused to push the doctrine onto her kids (she celebrated their birthdays) and her atheist husband. It was painful for her but I think that it ultimately saved her life and her family. She died of an illness in 2019 at 74 but I’m glad she’s not around to see this horrible propaganda
After living in my neighbourhood for 4 years, yesterday I had my first JW door knockers. 2 nice old ladies. Because I had the morning off, I decided to hear them out and engage them with some gentle, respectful disagreement and discuss. All they kept saying was "The governments of the world are all corrupt and leading the world to destruction, so now God's government will take over." When I asked what that meant in an actual material sense - like, what God's Government taking over actually looked like, they just kept repeating "It will take over all the human governments." The conversation went round and round like this until one of the old ladies decided she was finished with me, and said "We're just here to give you this" and handed me a card with just the JW website on it. That's all. They didn't try to convince me of anything, just that it's the end time and God is going to take action. They're absolutely gearing up for something.
I have spoken to them at my door and invited them in to debate opinions... week on week one person came with another person - never the same person. When I decided nothing was being gained they left ands did not try to return... never had a problem with Jw's - cannot see them being attacked anytime soon as they are not aggressive in their approach. They do not terrify...
I’m a server in a small town. The JW are some of my favorite customers. They had not been in for a couple weeks and I was wondering what happened to them. I finally had one of the sweet older ladies come in last week, she gave me a pamphlet for the first time….I’ve waited on them for several years. It makes me so sad to think of them being stuck in an abusive religion. They are dear to my heart and I’ve never had an unpleasant experience with them. I hope they are as happy and content as they appear to be. I really don’t like yo think of my sweet older lady being scared.
@@ComicXanzThat's pretty much the only downside in this. The possibility that they are going to go all out and one of the leaders will poison everyone's drinks. But the likelihood is small, since JW's have a history of failed prophecies, yet no-one killed themselves on those times either.
@@Sienisota That's what I'm afraid of, too. I was honestly kinda hoping the message would never change to Judgement for this reason - if the governing body moves in that direction, they cannot take it back. And to me, that scares me a little. Because I know of a lot of cults that went that direction and it ultimately ended with a "let's leave this planet before they get us". That would be a tragedy.
Whenever they came to my door I would say . " Sorry I find any religion that " Shuns " its own family members as a sick religion. " I would turn to the mother and say ." One day your Church may make you disown your daughter. " To the daughter " One day your Church may make you disown your mother " Have a nice day .
Apparently, you have not read what the bible teaches? To a Christion their service is to Jesus Christ and their worship is to his father. No one including family members will cause a true Christian to compromise their faith. If you feel a family member is more important than the God we worship you have lost the races. (Matthew 10:34-37) Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. It might not hurt for you to know what the true God and his son thinks about his people who sin and refuse to repent.
I ask them if the literature they want to tell me about has sex and violence in it and I tell them I’m only allowed to read and consume media with lots of sex and violence. (I’m 42 years old.) Then they give me a shocked/confused/disturbed look and walk away.
@@damonroberts7372 That is... an angle I hadn't considered, honestly. Viewing it from that perspective is quite chilling, actually. Jim Jones did turn to preaching about how the government would try to take down the cult shortly before the whole massacre... I genuinely hope that this situation doesn't evolve in that direction.
@SergeiMosin I hope it doesn't as well, since I'm still in the religion (cus I'm literally underage the age of 18 and can't afford being kicked out by my religious mother) and would rather not kill myself because of the elders saying that God has told them we gotta die 💀
I sat next to a JW on an airplane and she was so pleasant and seemed completely undisturbed as she told me I was going to burn in a lake of fire on judgment day. Eerie!
@@grimlund For them it is called hades and sheol and they do sometimes cheer about the idea that non believers will become fertilizer for their promised paradise. They stole 25 years of my life so i remember all of their paranoid discourses.
You know what’s funny? My dad who is a JW hates or is scared of people calling him or his landline or knocking on his door that he doesn’t know…but yet they go door knocking and expect people to answer.
As an ex JW, current friend of Kevin, And contractor.... WTF do you have a bunker with an interior bathroom door securing it? Was there an angel at the door???
Really wanted to see a cutaway during that crazy bunker vid that shows the outside world. Just business as usual, kids riding down the streets on bikes, Amazon trucks slinging packages, non-insane people going to work.. 😂😂😂
Love how they all just stand there like sheep. I actually am terrified really because my mother and sister and a large part of my family is in this obvious cult.
@@BluePatriotWinner I wrote a letter to the Head Office and copied the local covens. Telling them I had had my life saved by a blood transfusion, so they had more chance of seeing Torvill and Dean, do their Bolero routine on a frozen lake in hell, than of persuading me to join their cult! Worked for me. Good luck, it's worth trying. Update: They were on my Avenue today, they didn't come here! 😁😁
The reality is that only this year when the police in Hamburg did come to their Kingdom hall it was to protect JWs from their own. The Hamburg community went out of their way to send condolences .
Right??! At no time do I ever remember any official condolences to any other denomination when something terrible happened, only--always only to their own. They were shown an abundance of love and care in Hamburg they are told to believe doesn't actually exist in "the World", or that it's fake, wolves in sheep's clothing blah blah. Teaching members to be confused about what love actually looks like.
@@purplefireweed they were extremely uncomfortable with the love that was displayed from the people of Hamburg . It showed WT to be wrong and at first WT were see no evil 🙈😠, they wanted to ignore and hope it would go away. What kind of organisation does that?
@@yvonne3903 I know that discomfort well. I remember being taught to be leery of worldly people's kindnesses and charity. Was always amazed hearing of incredible *worldly* outpourings of love and material support to victims of disasters as a kid and wondered why our happy, loving people were forbidden to engage in such relief work. Preaching only! Anyway, I hope the incident provided an out for anyone in that congregation who was looking for the exit. I ache at the unhealed trauma in that congregation, knowing they all most likely won't get the real help they need to process it.
@@purplefireweed I think help will be available from the German government through their healthcare system, if JWs choose to receive it. Yes the world is full of very kind people.
I have noticed that the JW carters that hang around the shopping centre I live close to haven't been around for a few weeks. I miss greeting them with a jolly, "Hail Satan!"
@simplyharkonnen One of my JW relatives asked me once if I would like to live forever in paradise. I replied, not if it's full of Jehovahs Witnesses. They pretty much leave me alone now.
Between the final tribulations and being stuck in a bunker with a bunch of nut cases, I would GLADLY brace the tribulations instead of being stuck in a same room with them🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cults, big and small, always have a greater than zero chance of going “scorched earth.” You never know what will push the leadership over the edge. Sometimes they will even purposely set up the conditions to ignite a mass suicide or terroristic event. In the case of JW leadership, the motivation seems to be monetary. That makes the likelihood of violence very low, but if the government is poking around in their finances, … 🤷🏽.
Hahaha, I was gonna say "yeah, SWATs just gonna be out there combing the streets looking for dweebs that didn't do anything huddled in basements." What are they planning on doing that would warrant SWAT getting involved?
I wonder if this is why my JW family is trying to prevent me from finding a job currently. They actually think the end is here and think it won't be worth helping me look for employment. Unbelievable Edit: I'm stuck living with them still after not going to college, and am unable to drive, and have been refused help to look for a job for months now
@kate-xk2my , try your local library or a school guidance counselor if you’re still in school . And FYI Home health aides can have flexible hours and can work around the JW schedule. Until you get enough money to be independent of your family you’re kinda stuck.
@@dancingnature I'm currently still stuck in my home after graduating HS because I was discouraged from going to college. My only option currently is to find a job, learn to drive, and get out on my own
@@RavingKats I'm aware. I used to attend conventions and would see the bunker video there. I remember when 2020 hit my mother fully believed it was time, which then led me to not attend college. Around 2020 is when I started to do my own research, and slowly broke out of the brainwashing. I'm stuck living with my parents still after having been homeless at one point, and I cannot drive so going to places to apply has been rather difficult. I was only ever to finally go job searching when my best friend was able to help. And yes I've tried online applying but most times it hasn't led to anything. I'm hoping to learn how to drive soon, get a stable job, and get out of living with them
Same. My dad is also very elderly, so this is really upsetting for me if they do go into isolation. I hope you and yours are well and stay so. Perhaps this will turn into an opportunity for some to see what the organization is really about and finally break free.
@@Datura981if he's on medication, speak to him that he needs his meds and does he have enough to last. impress that upon him because these people are nuts and they'll be telling him he'll be ok without, just put ideas in his head to consider. It's all BS and I've seen this before with WT, ask him what's the worse kind of questions. Hope he remains well.
@@nostalgiatrip7331 except these idiots will pass COVID on, much safer to stay home than in groups especially if elderly. More JWs died per head during COVID than other groups.
My brother is cut off to me as I am disassociated he is one of the Extremist witnesses that believe anything he is told. I worry about him if they said drink the cyanide kool aid he would be first in line to show his loyalty. He raised 5 kids in that, and all 5 rejected it, the last two still at home, but fixing to fly the coop as soon as they are both 18. He has them in a very isolated hall where they are the only kids or even people below 70. It's sad he took them from us so we couldn't ( his family) be around them growing up. They are strangers. He even lost his first wife over it. He came home one day decided jws were right for him, when she refused he got ugly and she finally went to another man, he was able to divorce her. He did it on purpose so she would. All very sad. They are sick people . I too joined being lonely etc. When I had problems they scattered. They are not real friends at all. They hurt and use people for money. I beg anyone to steer clear of them for sure
I heard/read recently: “when everybody thinks the same, there’s not a lot of thinking going on.” Rings so true when I see/listen to so much orgenised religious organisations it makes me wonder; how desperate are people to give up their free will and independent thinking?
Sigh…I am 74, left when I was 18. Fought them for years and helped people coming out. I am one of the ones who can vouch for their 1975 fiasco. We got training on having wigs and a different shirt in our bags to change when persecution came. This organization has lied through their teeth for a long time. One of their famous lies is saying the Bible Students were defunct. One of the 12 ruling back then was a pedophile who raped a friend of mine. The stories I could tell from a personal and theological point of view are endless. I now live in peace.
This video takes me back - and not in a good way! Constant hate and fear for everyone around you (who is not JW) and praying for the world to end. That was my childhood! Did you ever notice how everyone is multi-ethnic in the videos yet pictures of the 144,000 in the magazines are all old white men?
The hardback book on Revelations that they had back in the 90's was a huge culprit of this, too. I heard they pulled that book a while ago, which isn't really surprising. I still can't hear "gnashing of the teeth" without flinching.
Does no one in the JW cult do math? There are around 19 million JWs at the moment, and who knows how many in the past (or future). Yet only 144,000 white men will make it to Heaven (TM). Those are some lottery winning odds. No thanks.
The numbers from 2022 has the current member at over 8 million, so how do they say it gets narrowed down? And whatabout the previous members who died? I've never had a door knocker explain that when I ask.
Mentioning the U.N. reminds me about when I was growing up. My parents were in a subset of their church that was basically a cult. They kept telling me that doomsday was just a couple of years away. They had a ton of food stored up, and a bunch of camping supplies ready to go. They believed that at some point all the "prepared" people would gather in the wilderness and the Chinese and Russians would invade, and kill everyone in the U.S. avoiding those who had hidden away, and then just leave the country completely empty for the "believers" to repopulate. Eventually even they saw through the bullshit and left. Last I heard they had changed from China and Russia to the EU and U.N.
I could laugh at that, but it isn't funny really. It's shocking. I know some have lost family if they have left, as they shouldn't talk to them. This woman who is a friend shouldn't talk to me really. I know she won't admit it. But this sounds like SF&F. Ridiculous.
Wow. What a revelation. Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear know what bunch is engaged in trying to flood the Country . And it ain’t tacos and poutin
Do we know exactly (date) when they expect the end this time? Then I will call their head office the next day and spread the joyful message that the world persisted... (again)
Nope we don't, their whole schtick is saying that, it might come literally tomorrow, and have been saying it for the past.. ever since the religion begun, Setting a specific date is a death sentence for them
sorry. in my defense i would have preferred to sleep in on weekends and watch cartoons instead of walking around in 115 degree weather in church clothes yelling about jesus.
Wow ! They’re really going all out. This is insane. Makes sense why my mom who is ex jw received a knock on the door recently. She let them in for old time sake…
exjw here POMO. Thanks for doing this because i stay as far away from their world as possible. My family is still in and i find the JW org to be toxic AF. Its great that folks like you give me the 411 without having to expose myself to this stuff. This stuff makes me crazy.
They fiercely believe in a devil and a real Satan, and are told constantly not to watch “apostate” videos online! That’s why many are “terrified”.😂🤣😂🤣😂
I wasn't raised JW but we had a copy of "My book of Bible stories" when I was a kid. The old one with the piss yellow cover. Some door knockers probably gave it to my mom when they realized that there were kids in the house. I collect religious propaganda. I wish we still had that book so I could add it to my collection.
I'm gonna guess this is why I haven't heard from my dad recently. And he's in his 80's, so depending on how long and how far they keep this going, the last time I talked to him might've been my last forever. 😞 Their "persecution" is a self-fulfilling prophecy, too. A lot of JWs are going to use this opportunity to tell the "sinners" in their lives just what they think about them. They're going to become more judgemental, nasty, and isolated. The governing body will encourage it. Then they'll call it persecution when their family avoids them and the law protects people from their judgemental harassment.
It was after the failed 1975 prediction that my Dad starting questioning things and things got real dicey for us. Hard times for some witnesses ahead unfortunately. Hopefully they can get out gracefully.
Have you noticed that the JW have changed their propaganda to say that you don't even have to enter the times of tribulation as a JW to be saved? They're now saying that you can repent at any point in time and still be saved.
I work retail at a Blue Big Box Electronics store( figure it out), I had a customer a couple days ago who tried to steer our interaction into the end of times blah, blah, blah. She gave me a business card with a QR code on it. I will usually let people rattle on about their religion but she did keep trying to tell me about "THE END." When people get annoying or creepy like that, that's when we fake a radio call on our headsets: "What's that? I'll be right there." turn to person "Sorry my boss needs me." Then just walk away.
Isn't this like the 2nd or 3rd time they claimed Jesus was coming back? Even gave an exact date and when it didn't happen they said "Jesus" came back in our hearts."
Dude i went to a state fair a few weeks ago and there was a JW booth right Im a cosplayer and i was in my mandalorian cosplay and the 3 people at the booth were just glaring at me like they wanted to kill me and it was so funny i had to avoid looking in their direction so i wouldn't die laughing
You think maybe some elders are under risk of being arrested for some as yet unknown scandals? So when arrests start happening they can say This Is It?
Reminds me of the founder of the FLDS, the followers of that cult believe when he's released from prison then (I think) he'll lead them all to paradise. Or at least then they'll get to "phase 2," of proving their beliefs "correct." Yeah buddy got a life sentence for massive charges including child endangerment, being a child predator- a lot of bad things to children. He's locked up for life.
I’m 76 been ‘out’ for a long time. But years ago I remember the ‘scare’ times. Once we were to wrap a bible in plastic and tape it under our houses so when marshal law begins to confiscate our literature we would still have a bible. Another ‘message’ was keep winter coats by the front door so when ‘we’ were rounded go and marched from our homes if it is winter we can grab our coats. One family in our congregation ran up huge bills thinking they wouldn’t have to pay for it because Armageddon was coming in 1975. But when 1975 came and went so did that family. Bankruptcy and they moved. The worst for me as a teenager was when John Kennedy was running for president. I was terrified because if he became president he would implement marshal law to force all people to become catholic. One terror after another!!!!
As of the new annual meeting, they have flip-flopped on this and now you can leave the religion as long as you come back before Armageddon so even when the great tribulation starts, it’s OK because you can still come back before Armageddon starts. I’m dead serious it’s insanity.
"Judgement", I still haven't heard a satisfactory explanation as to why a god described as omniscient would ever have a valid reason to judge anybody. What would be the point if you're a god who creates people a certain way, and you know exactly what they will eventually do during their lives?
@@Akira625 No. That's ignorance. It could be that you haven't used your free will to harm others; many do. Those who use their free will to prey on children should face a judgment. Those who exercise their will to take the life of another should face a judgment. Those who rape, murder, molest children...all of this calls out for divine justice. "For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." 2.Cor.5:10 This is good and right.
@@mattmurdock2868 and yet, the almighty and all powerful god, who is omniscient and knows who you are and what will you do... doesnt smite you where you stand when you begin to act on your evil thoughts? In fact, there are FAR too many stories of the criminals never facing justice, getting away with it, and leaving countless victims to suffer. Or are you going to now pull out the victim-blame excuses to justify that?
Interesting the link between Relevations and Nero. The reference to being dressed in purple relates to tyrian purple which was made by shells and very expensive and sought after by emperors and high nobles. Just something I remember from my days of chemistry lessons from about 3 decades ago. Like any book of fables or stories it is always good to look at them in context of the time and place they were written.
@christophersmith3867 That's a good point. I seem to remember that some dyes were also bonded using uric acid, possibly as a catalyst in the process. So, the smell of fish and urine would have been an acquired scent if combined.
It was “right around the corner” in late 60’s. Then “at the end of block “ and when I left it - was “next door”. I come from the era of 1975 Armageddon prediction. Which they denied they gave us that date and blamed “certain congregations” for spreading that false date. Problem with that was this false prophecy came directly from the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society.
Last time I ran into one I knew in the cashier line and they had to loudly tell me all the secrets of marriage despite him spending decades in a hotel room down the road from his not really wife wife. His real secret is the jhov prohibition on divorce. Whole thing turns my stomach despite their public smiley faces.
I find myself on a certain educational campus here in Georgia from time to time. By the student center there's the free-speech area. Two weeks ago there were Jehovah's witnesses and I got super excited. I was very nice and polite but I asked them straight up, don't y'all shun members and even family members? I knew the answer to this question but I wanted to see what they would say and of course, they acted surprised and shocked that I would even suggest such a thing. I mentioned yourself and a few other stories that I've heard about people leaving and or being excommunicated by the JW. This is in the middle of nowhere Georgia too and it concerns me because younger/newer students are very vulnerable to these type of approaches of community these cults take. Especially those that have come to school and are away from home. I love watching you talk about Jehovah's witness stuff and I hope the family and yourself as well, Owen! 😊
I was in the 5th grade in 1970 and my best friend was a Jehovah's Witness. (Her mother had converted from Catholicism after she and her husband divorced). Of course as a 10 year old girl, I was wanting to talk about being 16 one day and being allowed to date. I remember my friend told me she would never be allowed to date because "the world was going to end anyway, so why date or marry". So, I thought they always believed this was the end of times.
I go to the library of a local university a few times a week. This fall semester there has been a JW information table in the library courtyard every day. I don't remember seeing anything like this, and I spend a lot of time on college campuses. Incidentally I have never been involved with the JW's, I am a history professor who occasionally reads about doomsday cults.
This kinda goes with what happened recently for me. Had some come up to my house as I was outside and they just told me to please read the Bible and they walked off. Didn't ask me to join or anything like that.
That sounds like an escalation within JWs.. I find that scary as heck.. I *really * hope they won't become the next "Jonestown".. I find it heartbreaking..
My mother was one, she ended up leaving and turning to drugs. Because of that my siblings and I were taken from her and sent to live with my grandmother who was still one. She abused me, to the point a friend's mom saw my back and legs from her beating me with a switch until I bled. She went to the elders who sat me down with my grandmother and asked if I was abused. I was 10 of course I'm not going to say anything while my grandmother is sitting across from me shooting daggers from her eyes at me. It didn't matter due to nobody else witnessing her beating me. I left the religion at 16, I'm 43 but just hearing this the PTSD of the trauma of the repeated YOU'RE GOING TO DIE creeps in. Child abuse
We might very well end our reign on earth ourselves or by impact from Space of impactor or beam of energy from a supernova or many other disasters...but what ISNT GONNA HAPPEN is people whisked into the sky to "heaven". Honestly the more politics and world events I hear and comment sections I read, the less I am afraid of humanity facing sudden extinction.
@@norml.hugh-mann Thing is, JW's don't believe in the rapture, or heaven really (at least as most Christians do), so your statement to a JW would just re-affirm their own beliefs. Not saying you're wrong to say, I'm just saying that's how all doomsday cults are. If they say the world is going to end in ash, but someone else says it'll be burned in fire, the JWs will say well those people aren't correct because it's not the fire that will kill the sinners, it's the ASH! Forget that you need one to get the other, it's *technically* incorrect, so in their minds that means they're right.
I don’t get why they are going to knock on your door and say you are going to Hell but you can’t join them so what? Goodbye? No one going to attack them, although if they bunker down and don’t send their kids to school someone will check on them.
I grew up a JW, and all of this is spot on. I even remember the image of the whore on the beast thing. Things have gotten increasingly weird over the last several years and people seem more on edge. This is not a great time for a doomsday message. I'm honestly worried that there will be some sad self endings over this if they push it harder than they have in the past.
I recently got a letter from Jehovah's witnesses (really, my roommate got it and gave it to me because I find reading some of that stuff to be amusing) now I want to get it out of my non urgent mail and read it just to see what it says
I remember the first video playing at the convention and people around me were sobbing, it’s fucking crazy what this “religion” does. Also the images of that women at the end, omg I remember those illustrations 😭😭
Yeah, I used to be all about it for 20 years but noticed that even as the elders were attempting to aim me towards becoming an elder I noticed that they were not adhering to all of the scriptural guidelines of their position. Now I am past all of that.
The last conversation I had with my JW brother was a phone call in mid 2009 that ended with him spitting with rage at me because of how I challenged his fairly new found beliefs. I miss the brother I had before he was lured into this cult, but I have no regrets with how things ended up. He's a different person now. One that holds no place in my life and that I can't see ever changing, and I'm ok with that.
My grandmother was a devote Seventh day Adventist till her vary end. Every single month the church would bring her some type of propaganda booklet and magazine. It is sad they would scare all of there members into this mindset of Armageddon and fear just to keep the control intact. I grew up in the church didn't get baptized. And i could tell you the shit i would hear from the pulpits was all about fear, propaganda, and hate for non believers. There quest to be one of the 144000 is just ridiculous. Sad i left the church at a young age and enjoyed my youth. Became a Mormon as a adult then left religion all together. Religion divides everyone in the end. Treat each other as you would want to be treated and live your life free from religious organizations who really just want your money 💰 and your life.
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the leadership of the religion also just announced (after i filmed) that people dont have to report the time they spend knocking on doors anymore. interesting development. not sure what it means or how it connects to the rest of the story yet
can i ask the comments section- anyone know the episode name/number where Owen explains the book of revalations being about Nero, plesae?
emperor Nero did nothing wrong
@@SmartMthKittenthis one maybe?
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Pretty sure this is just to artificially inflate their dwindling membership... according to their jw website 'memebership' is only counting those 'active' in ministry... by removing those standards, membership will skyrocket, or at least not be lower than global birthrate which is where it is now....
I always tell them I'm a born again atheist!!
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when a cult can no longer recruit new people it has to tighten its grip on the members it has that much harder and fear has always been the go to method
That's kind of funny how the religion isn't growing. It's like everyone knows who they are and nobody is interested.
Yep, that's exactly what's happening. I could feel the turning point starting right as I left in about 2014 when the "governing body" became more public and much more explicit about how hardcore they want people to be. The energy in the whole "community" shifted and you could feel that people's gears were turning, trying to decide just how serious they were.
I wonder how many of their members are stocking up on liquor
This buckling down is eerily like what’s happening with Scientology. Although, Scientology is much further into its death throes
@ogreadmore3046 Quite a few of them drink but they're not allowed to get drunk. Wonder what the cutoff line is? When you're feeling good, when you start to slur your words or when you call on Jehovah to give you more whiskey.
A JW woman and her tween daughter came to my door. I mentioned to the lady that I was born with erythroblastosis fetalis. I was RH positive and my mom was RH-. This meant that in order to survive after birth I needed to total body blood transfusions. I asked the woman if she would have denied her daughter those blood transfusions if it meant her death. She said no blood transfusions. I told her daughter "do you hear what your mom is saying? She would have let you die after being born." I hope that girl escapes these crazy people that interpret whatever they want from the bible.
My best friend was born with a heart defect. He could have got it fixed as a kid but it required a blood transfusion, which his JW parents forbid. When he was old enough to decide for himself it was too late and he died of heart failure at 29. JWs just plain suck.
I'm sure that my mother would have denied any of us a blood transfusion when we were growing up. I'm not a believer, nor have I ever been one but I still have relatives who are. I'm totally aware that they believe my brothers and I deserve to die because we think their religion is bs.
If I get two women at the door, I like to quote the verses about women not being allowed to preach with a horrified look on my face and then shut the door. And I'm a mature aged woman.
this is way better than people who open the door naked or pretend to be possessed by the devil
EXCELLENT response. That kid now has more chance of escaping the cult, because of you!
Does this mean no more door knocking? This is wonderful news, isn't it?
I think now they’ll be door knocking just to say “you’re screwed”
😂😂😂 Truly fabulous!!
@@somerandomgamer9065No doubt. I don't answer the door.
If you're outside of the cult yes, for people inside the group the fear that already was will be build up. This is what JW'S do: its the last part of the last days of the end of time and of the final days of the latest part of the latest of days and perhaps the last day of all the days of all time
No... cause they were knocking on my door the other day.
I was an 8 yr old jw in 1975. When the end didn't come, it seemed like no one would talk about it. Like they didn't want to question anything
That would have been an interesting time... Yet they still made it boring!!! ??? Typical.
In typical Watchtower fashion the '75 thing was stated _just_ vaguely enough that they could turn around and shame people for reading that much into it. Just like this video: It's presented as a theoretical soon-to-happen thinf rather than an official shift, so people can take it or leave it depending on how hardcore they are. For now, at least.
Get ready for JWs to try and gaslight you about 1975
My Brainwashed mother, says they never said that the end was coming in 1975. Stupid Ass.
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Right, and then the wt can gaslight the rank and file when the circumstances that they inferred were announced by the wt fail to transpire 😂, just as with the 1975 debacle…
When I was 13, I rolled over in bed to my mother in the doorway. She was waking me for yet another traumatic brainwashing Kingdom Hall. I looked her dead in the eyes, flipped her the bird and said “I’m never going back”. It still took decades for me to unwind the damage. Subconsciously I was always expecting the world to end. These people need to stop hurting kids.
Damn
Lol, .
I'm 67 and I still remember the trauma I went through because of that evil cult.
Who gives a ff. Opinions on the video topic.
Yeah sure...then she whooped your petulant little ass. I dont like these guys very much but no one is impressed by you being nasty to the woman who just wanted the best for you, flawed as her thinking was
Most people think this stuff is just ridiculous but when someone you love is caught up in this insanity you actually wanna cry.😢
Cults are a scary thing indeed.
Especially when your ex takes your children into this cult. They weren't born into it, she turned them😢😢
My mom and sister are JWs. I couldn’t agree more!
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My gramz is spending her last days on zoom watching meetings from all over. She's on her last days so I get why.
I had two Jehova's Witnesses give me a pamphlet at work last week and this was the first time interacting with a JW since coming across your channel and I noticed the absent smiles. I jokingly told my buddy that the world was ending (this is what made them talk to me) and they were like "You're more correct than you realize" that encounter hits a little different after watching this
You should treat these cultists as you would anyone who has escaped a Derron Brown show before he breaks them of their suggestive trance. Don't say a word just guide them away from your presence. If they fight back then either call the police, social services or a doctor.
Um. That is a creepy encounter. I've strung along mormons, but have not seen jws in person. But weren't they the weirdos at airports in the '70s?
Shit me two I didn't even know my town HAD witnesses
@@PopirnotKingdom Halls are plotted up everywhere across the US and UK and likely around Europe as well. Seriously this cult is everywhere. It's why China was very strict about getting this Abrahamic shit out of people's heads. The Christian and fundamentalist Islamic cults are monsters who have caused untold damage to society right under everyone's noses; and continue to do so. Tax free.
You are right to think we are coming to the end of the world…..the world as we know it.
The world ruled by corrupt man is about to be taken away from them. It’s going to be handed over to Christ’s government and will last for a thousand years.
He will rule with justice, kindness and will show us…teach us, how to live in harmony.
We won’t see him but he will be ruling. We won’t see him throwing the devil into the abyss but we will certainly feel the relief of not having his evil influence on us anymore.
Rev: 20.
J W ‘s think we are staring at Armageddon but that’s not coming for another thousand years.
Billions alive right now, yourself included will very shortly see and feel the effects of his millennium reign.
Klaus Schwab or the U N is not going to get control of us. They’re espousing just a hopeful wish of a prisoner waiting for his cell doors to slam shut for the whole millennium reign.
In the early 1980's I had a series of study sessions with JW's because my friend was in the cult. I was allowed to experience many religions as a child, whichever I wanted, or none at all. One of the things my parents did right. Anyway, after we moved a couple young men came knocking. We had rescued and raised a baby raccoon, who, when they knocked on the door, jumped up and latched his claws into the screen door, rattling it and screaming/chattering at them! I think they thought they saw the devil incarnate! Still can't recall a time I've seen anyone run faster in a tie and dress shoes!
LMAO! That’s amazing.
Lol
The raccoon knew, something wasn't right!😂😂😂
PFPFTHTHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
Wow, even a baby raccoon can sense such threat from them.
Have a few coworkers who are in this cult and the more they tell me about it the sadder i feel for them
I have no pity for idiots who follow this crap. They have access to information. Their kids attend school -where they can learn and get the hell out ASAP. What a bunch of assholes they are.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
Being a Mormon is like being stuck in a terribly written movie from the late 80’s.
You mean being a JW?
@@88mphDrBrownBoth.
Being a FLDS Mormon is like being stuck in Little House on the Prairie.
1880s
@@88mphDrBrownYes, my bad.
I’ve been disfellowshiped since 1980
They are the absolute worst!
I appreciate this channel and hope it shows folks the danger of Jehovahs witnesses
They caused my mothers suicide and almost had me die of cancer!
Such a violent and dangerous organization
@breevail368 I'm so sorry for your loss--your many losses--and hope you've been able to access help to process so much trauma. I too was df'd in the 80s, twice, and know that you had zero community like today's vast XJW community to help you leave and reorient life to the outside. I'm so glad you got out!! Sending warm healing energy and love. 💔❤🩹💚🤍
Daaaamn😢 that's horrible 💔
I wish you a happy life.
Glad you made it out alive. Sorry your mom didn’t.
C.E.S letter explains everything.
Like you, I too am a former JW. Only, instead of being disfellowshiped by them, I denounced them in their hall to their faces just before I left them for good. That was in 1980 also
Jehovahs killed my grandma. She was a bipolar abused divorcee raising her son alone. They roped her in with their promises of community, then convinced her the world was ending, and tried to push her to disown my father for not going along. They put so much psychological stress on her that she killed herself in the garage with the carbon monoxide from her car. Left my dad to find her dead at 17 and caused generational trauma to my family. Its extremely sad, especially because all my grandma needed was a positive community and they manipulated her into cutting ties with those who cared about her, going off her medication, and kept brainwashing her that judgement day was coming. The worst is the fact that all she had was her son and they tried forcing her into "its him or us".
Its such an evil cult, and its so sad how many lives will be ruined by being connected to the cult. My dad was never in it but lost his mom, got severe ptsd. I was never in it, but the trauma caused my dad to be an angry person and passed it onto me. And my grandma is dead. All because someone knocked on her door with a smile, and manipulated a sad lonely woman looking for something to be a part of. Its incredibly sad.
I'm so sorry
I absolutely feel this, and I'm so sorry. My uncle used to be a witness and he committed murder. After he left the religion it really messed him up, my grandparents disowned him. He ended up turning to drugs and one day shot his girlfriend in the face.
My entire family would've been so much better off if this religion didn't exist. They're truly cruel and evil people. I sympathize for all those people on the Jehovahs Witness subreddit like he mentioned. I can't imagine how terrifying it is leaving, being told you'll lose everything including family, being told you'll be damned after death. It breaks my heart.
My condolences to your family, I hope you are able to heal from this trauma. My grandma was JW too, she got excommunicated cause she refused to push the doctrine onto her kids (she celebrated their birthdays) and her atheist husband. It was painful for her but I think that it ultimately saved her life and her family. She died of an illness in 2019 at 74 but I’m glad she’s not around to see this horrible propaganda
I am so sorry. Bless you with a good life and a free mind.
And HAD she lived to be with them “ forever”, it would have been worse.
After living in my neighbourhood for 4 years, yesterday I had my first JW door knockers. 2 nice old ladies. Because I had the morning off, I decided to hear them out and engage them with some gentle, respectful disagreement and discuss. All they kept saying was "The governments of the world are all corrupt and leading the world to destruction, so now God's government will take over."
When I asked what that meant in an actual material sense - like, what God's Government taking over actually looked like, they just kept repeating "It will take over all the human governments."
The conversation went round and round like this until one of the old ladies decided she was finished with me, and said "We're just here to give you this" and handed me a card with just the JW website on it. That's all. They didn't try to convince me of anything, just that it's the end time and God is going to take action.
They're absolutely gearing up for something.
Most cult member can go no further than repeating the constantly repeated slogans.
@@grahvislike the MAGA Trumpist cult.
I have spoken to them at my door and invited them in to debate opinions... week on week one person came with another person - never the same person. When I decided nothing was being gained they left ands did not try to return... never had a problem with Jw's - cannot see them being attacked anytime soon as they are not aggressive in their approach. They do not terrify...
I mean.... in a way they are not wrong but their solution is mental haha
They were telling you the TRUTH. And that's what is gonna happen very soon. They were helping you
I’m a server in a small town. The JW are some of my favorite customers. They had not been in for a couple weeks and I was wondering what happened to them. I finally had one of the sweet older ladies come in last week, she gave me a pamphlet for the first time….I’ve waited on them for several years. It makes me so sad to think of them being stuck in an abusive religion. They are dear to my heart and I’ve never had an unpleasant experience with them. I hope they are as happy and content as they appear to be. I really don’t like yo think of my sweet older lady being scared.
When they lock themselves up in their basements, the world will be safer .😤
Hopefully the jws don’t repeat what the heavens gate cult did lol
@@ComicXanzThat's pretty much the only downside in this. The possibility that they are going to go all out and one of the leaders will poison everyone's drinks. But the likelihood is small, since JW's have a history of failed prophecies, yet no-one killed themselves on those times either.
@@Sienisota That's what I'm afraid of, too. I was honestly kinda hoping the message would never change to Judgement for this reason - if the governing body moves in that direction, they cannot take it back. And to me, that scares me a little. Because I know of a lot of cults that went that direction and it ultimately ended with a "let's leave this planet before they get us". That would be a tragedy.
@@Sienisotahoping that JW is too large scale to have a mass suicide? such a gross cult but victims dont deserve to die
They should actually lock it next time 😂😬🤣🤣
Whenever they came to my door I would say . " Sorry I find any religion that " Shuns " its own family members as a sick religion. " I would turn to the mother and say ." One day your Church may make you disown your daughter. " To the daughter " One day your Church may make you disown your mother " Have a nice day .
I get them to do my housework before I mess with their heads. I just go "sorry I don't have time right now, I need to [list of chores]"
That is brutal! I love it.
Apparently, you have not read what the bible teaches? To a Christion their service is to Jesus Christ and their worship is to his father. No one including family members will cause a true Christian to compromise their faith. If you feel a family member is more important than the God we worship you have lost the races. (Matthew 10:34-37) Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.
It might not hurt for you to know what the true God and his son thinks about his people who sin and refuse to repent.
I ask them if the literature they want to tell me about has sex and violence in it and I tell them I’m only allowed to read and consume media with lots of sex and violence. (I’m 42 years old.) Then they give me a shocked/confused/disturbed look and walk away.
Me and my ex-wife ended up going to dinner party with a house full of them. Odd experience would be an understatement.
I hope they DO turn to the message of judgement. Watching them make an even bigger clown show out of the cult is gonna be priceless.
It's a ridiculous cult to be sure, but this development... has a Jonestown vibe that creeps me out.
@@damonroberts7372 That is... an angle I hadn't considered, honestly. Viewing it from that perspective is quite chilling, actually. Jim Jones did turn to preaching about how the government would try to take down the cult shortly before the whole massacre... I genuinely hope that this situation doesn't evolve in that direction.
@SergeiMosin I hope it doesn't as well, since I'm still in the religion (cus I'm literally underage the age of 18 and can't afford being kicked out by my religious mother) and would rather not kill myself because of the elders saying that God has told them we gotta die 💀
@@damonroberts7372 yeah I heard Joe buden giving a speech about them vaccines and swore it sounded just like Jim Jones. It was really creepy.
I sat next to a JW on an airplane and she was so pleasant and seemed completely undisturbed as she told me I was going to burn in a lake of fire on judgment day. Eerie!
Thats weird. The JW:s doesnt believe in hell and eternal suffering.
She was talking about right here on earth on judgment day
@@grimlund For them it is called hades and sheol and they do sometimes cheer about the idea that non believers will become fertilizer for their promised paradise. They stole 25 years of my life so i remember all of their paranoid discourses.
JWs don’t believe people will burn in a lake of fire. They’re Koo Koo but they don’t teach hell-fire. I call BS on your story.
One word: asteroid
You know what’s funny? My dad who is a JW hates or is scared of people calling him or his landline or knocking on his door that he doesn’t know…but yet they go door knocking and expect people to answer.
As an ex JW, current friend of Kevin, And contractor....
WTF do you have a bunker with an interior bathroom door securing it? Was there an angel at the door???
I may need to hire you to build my bunker. Those people clearly want to die.
They put all their faith in hoping that the door would hold
Just a cheesy effort at scaring their own. Only those of us grounded in reality notice what a lame bunker they inhabited. 😂
Ha! You think the flock would have the same amenities as the "upper crust" of jws?
@@ecs300 They might still be okay. The SWAT team in the video didn';t seem to be carrying any weapons or tools of any kind.
It's amazing that a whole cult can be made just by freaking yourself out on a fairly predictable pattern
Can they just rapture already??? Oh sorry wrong cult 😂
That's actually how a lot of cults work. Fear is one of the most powerful motivators to humans.
That's how you keep people locked in. Keep them emotionally off-balance and make it so they rely on you as a support-system.
Really wanted to see a cutaway during that crazy bunker vid that shows the outside world. Just business as usual, kids riding down the streets on bikes, Amazon trucks slinging packages, non-insane people going to work.. 😂😂😂
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lol,true😂😂😂😂
So tired of their "the end is coming" message. They've been doing this for decades... those poor unfortunate souls.
Love how they all just stand there like sheep. I actually am terrified really because my mother and sister and a large part of my family is in this obvious cult.
Whenever I hear of a religion isolate ,all I can think of is Jonestown or Heavens gate 🤦
I'm on their "do not knock" list. It's wonderful!
Me too! I watch them cross the road to avoid my house. Love it.!!
They're like rats
How can I get on their Do Not Knock list? I could use a break.
@@BluePatriotWinner I wrote a letter to the Head Office and copied the local covens. Telling them I had had my life saved by a blood transfusion, so they had more chance of seeing Torvill and Dean, do their Bolero routine on a frozen lake in hell, than of persuading me to join their cult! Worked for me. Good luck, it's worth trying.
Update: They were on my Avenue today, they didn't come here! 😁😁
@@BluePatriotWinner I happened to be a kidney donor....so....
I have a neighbor who is JW and when her cultist friends are over, she acts like she doesn’t know who I or my family is.
That artwork of the Whore of Babylon slaps, man. 100% would use that for a D&D villain.
I'd absolutely make an entire commander deck around her.
The reality is that only this year when the police in Hamburg did come to their Kingdom hall it was to protect JWs from their own. The Hamburg community went out of their way to send condolences .
Right??! At no time do I ever remember any official condolences to any other denomination when something terrible happened, only--always only to their own. They were shown an abundance of love and care in Hamburg they are told to believe doesn't actually exist in "the World", or that it's fake, wolves in sheep's clothing blah blah. Teaching members to be confused about what love actually looks like.
Yes, l was really disappointed.
@@purplefireweed they were extremely uncomfortable with the love that was displayed from the people of Hamburg . It showed WT to be wrong and at first WT were see no evil 🙈😠, they wanted to ignore and hope it would go away. What kind of organisation does that?
@@yvonne3903 I know that discomfort well. I remember being taught to be leery of worldly people's kindnesses and charity. Was always amazed hearing of incredible *worldly* outpourings of love and material support to victims of disasters as a kid and wondered why our happy, loving people were forbidden to engage in such relief work. Preaching only! Anyway, I hope the incident provided an out for anyone in that congregation who was looking for the exit. I ache at the unhealed trauma in that congregation, knowing they all most likely won't get the real help they need to process it.
@@purplefireweed I think help will be available from the German government through their healthcare system, if JWs choose to receive it.
Yes the world is full of very kind people.
"Even churches that condemn immorality have tolerated religious leaders who have SA'd children" well well well, how the turntables...
I have noticed that the JW carters that hang around the shopping centre I live close to haven't been around for a few weeks.
I miss greeting them with a jolly, "Hail Satan!"
I noticed them not around today pre meeting schedule at the kingdom
GASTASCHENPRESSFURZ
I like to go with “Heíll, [brother/sister]! It is not yet too late for you to earn a place in Sígfather’s Hall, if you are bold enough to take it!”
@simplyharkonnen One of my JW relatives asked me once if I would like to live forever in paradise. I replied, not if it's full of Jehovahs Witnesses.
They pretty much leave me alone now.
A little moronic , but it's your choice.
Between the final tribulations and being stuck in a bunker with a bunch of nut cases, I would GLADLY brace the tribulations instead of being stuck in a same room with them🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Make them scared, make them easily controlled. A common tactic of would be dictators.
They will only be hunted if they start distributing the kool-aid or become terrorists. Makes me wonder what they are really planning.
they're just milking their followers for more time and money.
@@jscotthatcher380and narcissistic control over their victims.
Cults, big and small, always have a greater than zero chance of going “scorched earth.” You never know what will push the leadership over the edge. Sometimes they will even purposely set up the conditions to ignite a mass suicide or terroristic event.
In the case of JW leadership, the motivation seems to be monetary. That makes the likelihood of violence very low, but if the government is poking around in their finances, … 🤷🏽.
Hahaha, I was gonna say "yeah, SWATs just gonna be out there combing the streets looking for dweebs that didn't do anything huddled in basements." What are they planning on doing that would warrant SWAT getting involved?
They’re planning on sitting in a corner and crying about themselves.
I wonder if this is why my JW family is trying to prevent me from finding a job currently. They actually think the end is here and think it won't be worth helping me look for employment. Unbelievable
Edit: I'm stuck living with them still after not going to college, and am unable to drive, and have been refused help to look for a job for months now
Idk but the bunker series is a few yrs old now and they do this every 4-6 yrs in phases it seems.
@kate-xk2my , try your local library or a school guidance counselor if you’re still in school . And FYI Home health aides can have flexible hours and can work around the JW schedule. Until you get enough money to be independent of your family you’re kinda stuck.
@@dancingnature I'm currently still stuck in my home after graduating HS because I was discouraged from going to college. My only option currently is to find a job, learn to drive, and get out on my own
@@RavingKats I'm aware. I used to attend conventions and would see the bunker video there. I remember when 2020 hit my mother fully believed it was time, which then led me to not attend college. Around 2020 is when I started to do my own research, and slowly broke out of the brainwashing. I'm stuck living with my parents still after having been homeless at one point, and I cannot drive so going to places to apply has been rather difficult. I was only ever to finally go job searching when my best friend was able to help. And yes I've tried online applying but most times it hasn't led to anything. I'm hoping to learn how to drive soon, get a stable job, and get out of living with them
@@ScaredyOwl the job market is so bad right now, I feel your pain. I'm hoping it turns around soon and that something works out for you asap 💜
this explains why my family has been acting... weirder than usual.
Same. My dad is also very elderly, so this is really upsetting for me if they do go into isolation. I hope you and yours are well and stay so. Perhaps this will turn into an opportunity for some to see what the organization is really about and finally break free.
@@Datura981if he's on medication, speak to him that he needs his meds and does he have enough to last. impress that upon him because these people are nuts and they'll be telling him he'll be ok without, just put ideas in his head to consider. It's all BS and I've seen this before with WT, ask him what's the worse kind of questions. Hope he remains well.
At least he's less likely to get sick as covid return for winter
@@nostalgiatrip7331 except these idiots will pass COVID on, much safer to stay home than in groups especially if elderly.
More JWs died per head during COVID than other groups.
My brother is cut off to me as I am disassociated he is one of the Extremist witnesses that believe anything he is told. I worry about him if they said drink the cyanide kool aid he would be first in line to show his loyalty. He raised 5 kids in that, and all 5 rejected it, the last two still at home, but fixing to fly the coop as soon as they are both 18. He has them in a very isolated hall where they are the only kids or even people below 70. It's sad he took them from us so we couldn't ( his family) be around them growing up. They are strangers. He even lost his first wife over it. He came home one day decided jws were right for him, when she refused he got ugly and she finally went to another man, he was able to divorce her. He did it on purpose so she would. All very sad. They are sick people .
I too joined being lonely etc. When I had problems they scattered. They are not real friends at all. They hurt and use people for money. I beg anyone to steer clear of them for sure
I heard/read recently: “when everybody thinks the same, there’s not a lot of thinking going on.”
Rings so true when I see/listen to so much orgenised religious organisations it makes me wonder; how desperate are people to give up their free will and independent thinking?
Wow, good one. Thanks for sharing.
Sigh…I am 74, left when I was 18. Fought them for years and helped people coming out. I am one of the ones who can vouch for their 1975 fiasco. We got training on having wigs and a different shirt in our bags to change when persecution came. This organization has lied through their teeth for a long time. One of their famous lies is saying the Bible Students were defunct. One of the 12 ruling back then was a pedophile who raped a friend of mine. The stories I could tell from a personal and theological point of view are endless. I now live in peace.
OmG..😮 thankfully you got out
This video takes me back - and not in a good way! Constant hate and fear for everyone around you (who is not JW) and praying for the world to end. That was my childhood!
Did you ever notice how everyone is multi-ethnic in the videos yet pictures of the 144,000 in the magazines are all old white men?
The hardback book on Revelations that they had back in the 90's was a huge culprit of this, too. I heard they pulled that book a while ago, which isn't really surprising. I still can't hear "gnashing of the teeth" without flinching.
@@Datura981 😂🤣 truth and relatable
Does no one in the JW cult do math? There are around 19 million JWs at the moment, and who knows how many in the past (or future). Yet only 144,000 white men will make it to Heaven (TM). Those are some lottery winning odds. No thanks.
The numbers from 2022 has the current member at over 8 million, so how do they say it gets narrowed down? And whatabout the previous members who died? I've never had a door knocker explain that when I ask.
@@uncle.stinky.96 They can't explain anything that is outside their script or questions their beliefs.
JW trying to scare us with depiction of lady riding a kitty-beast.
"Joke's on you, I'm into that shit"
Hell yeah!
I know, I saw that and thought the Death Caracal looked awesome.
I love this comment way too much.
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"persecuted" for flooding the Russian postal service before Christmas and subsequently being banned and labeled a terrorist group
Did you mean mailing lots of pamphlets or actually flooding by damaging the plumbing ?
The only concern I have is for the children especially since this could be a step one to a new Unalive themselves cult situation
Mentioning the U.N. reminds me about when I was growing up. My parents were in a subset of their church that was basically a cult. They kept telling me that doomsday was just a couple of years away. They had a ton of food stored up, and a bunch of camping supplies ready to go. They believed that at some point all the "prepared" people would gather in the wilderness and the Chinese and Russians would invade, and kill everyone in the U.S. avoiding those who had hidden away, and then just leave the country completely empty for the "believers" to repopulate. Eventually even they saw through the bullshit and left. Last I heard they had changed from China and Russia to the EU and U.N.
I could laugh at that, but it isn't funny really. It's shocking. I know some have lost family if they have left, as they shouldn't talk to them. This woman who is a friend shouldn't talk to me really. I know she won't admit it. But this sounds like SF&F. Ridiculous.
Wow.
What a revelation.
Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear know what bunch is engaged in trying to flood the Country .
And it ain’t tacos and poutin
Do we know exactly (date) when they expect the end this time? Then I will call their head office the next day and spread the joyful message that the world persisted... (again)
Nope we don't, their whole schtick is saying that, it might come literally tomorrow, and have been saying it for the past.. ever since the religion begun,
Setting a specific date is a death sentence for them
Good idea me too.
@@sonni.walkmanwell Freddy Franz stated 6th September 1975 in public from the platform at a district assembly, so I wouldn't put a bet on that.
Like the person who told me, "When they switch on the 5G all the vaccinated people will drop dead". I love casually saying "Still here Helen"! 🤣🤣
I sorry but “The Whore Of Babylon” doesn’t look disturbing it looks like a bad ass Metal album cover.
They should've adopted this approach from the beginning instead of bothering everyone trying to sell their personal mental deficit door to door.
sorry. in my defense i would have preferred to sleep in on weekends and watch cartoons instead of walking around in 115 degree weather in church clothes yelling about jesus.
@@robertoso8796😅😅why were you yelling???!!!!
@@randyg.7940 so you could hear me over the xmen cartoon
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@@robertoso8796 LOL!!!
Wow ! They’re really going all out. This is insane. Makes sense why my mom who is ex jw received a knock on the door recently. She let them in for old time sake…
Not gonna lie, the Harlet is a baddie and I love her.
exjw here POMO. Thanks for doing this because i stay as far away from their world as possible. My family is still in and i find the JW org to be toxic AF. Its great that folks like you give me the 411 without having to expose myself to this stuff. This stuff makes me crazy.
It would be interesting to see how long they will keep the judgment message until they realize nothing will happen
They'll never do that. They've been peddling "the End" for over 100 years.
Sneaking suspicion gonna see multiple Heaven's Gate type things...
@@stephenwodz7593it's a sign of the end times to have people skeptical of the end times when it's the end times. 😏
@@normanclatcherit's natural to be skeptical when literally every prediction about them to date has proven wrong.
@@spugintrntl you missed the joke: self-fulfilling prophecy
Dude!! I don't understand why you are not at 3m viewers!! Your reporting is dead on!! Keep it up!!
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They fiercely believe in a devil and a real Satan, and are told constantly not to watch “apostate” videos online! That’s why many are “terrified”.😂🤣😂🤣😂
You’re right! Owen’s videos dare very informative.
So, I'm going to need that new painting of Babylon for a Dungeons & Dragons campaign...
2:40 - I never heard someone saying "how sad" in a less sad voice
"she wears purple and uses incense" literally describing 95% of californians 😂
“The harlot” is probably Kim Kardashian to JW’s 😂
I wasn't raised JW but we had a copy of "My book of Bible stories" when I was a kid. The old one with the piss yellow cover. Some door knockers probably gave it to my mom when they realized that there were kids in the house. I collect religious propaganda. I wish we still had that book so I could add it to my collection.
I have that, tucked away. Never read it, but some of the illustrations are well done from an artistic standpoint.
piss yellow 😂😂😂😂 I loved that book fr. Im so shocked how indoctrinated I was
To me this shows they are losing members so they are trying to terrify their weak members into staying.
Nobody's supposed to have kids? No wonder they are losing members. Totally negative life view...
It's pretty funny how I'm remembering I was the ONLY child in that congregation at the time and was up until I went into state custody.😂
I'm gonna guess this is why I haven't heard from my dad recently. And he's in his 80's, so depending on how long and how far they keep this going, the last time I talked to him might've been my last forever. 😞
Their "persecution" is a self-fulfilling prophecy, too. A lot of JWs are going to use this opportunity to tell the "sinners" in their lives just what they think about them. They're going to become more judgemental, nasty, and isolated. The governing body will encourage it. Then they'll call it persecution when their family avoids them and the law protects people from their judgemental harassment.
It was after the failed 1975 prediction that my Dad starting questioning things and things got real dicey for us. Hard times for some witnesses ahead unfortunately. Hopefully they can get out gracefully.
I'd hate to be raptured through a bunker ceiling.
I was actually in JW’s
In 1975
. I don’t remember the slogan but I remember the terror
Stay alive to seventy five.
Other protestant churches had the same fear around that time, but we never knew where that fear and urgency came from.
The second harlot pic would go great in a D&D book.
Didn't they just recently stop requiring their members to send end monthly hourly reports?
Have you noticed that the JW have changed their propaganda to say that you don't even have to enter the times of tribulation as a JW to be saved? They're now saying that you can repent at any point in time and still be saved.
I work retail at a Blue Big Box Electronics store( figure it out), I had a customer a couple days ago who tried to steer our interaction into the end of times blah, blah, blah. She gave me a business card with a QR code on it. I will usually let people rattle on about their religion but she did keep trying to tell me about "THE END." When people get annoying or creepy like that, that's when we fake a radio call on our headsets: "What's that? I'll be right there." turn to person "Sorry my boss needs me." Then just walk away.
Isn't this like the 2nd or 3rd time they claimed Jesus was coming back? Even gave an exact date and when it didn't happen they said "Jesus" came back in our hearts."
It's the 4th /5th time
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Dude i went to a state fair a few weeks ago and there was a JW booth right
Im a cosplayer and i was in my mandalorian cosplay and the 3 people at the booth were just glaring at me like they wanted to kill me and it was so funny i had to avoid looking in their direction so i wouldn't die laughing
Should have marched up to them and told them to come with you...this is the way lol!
@lindak3030 aw i really should have lol
They were afraid that, if you stared at them long enough , you’d see the entire back of their booth.
You think maybe some elders are under risk of being arrested for some as yet unknown scandals? So when arrests start happening they can say This Is It?
Interesting......
money is running out, can’t afford to keep paying the lawsuits
Reminds me of the founder of the FLDS, the followers of that cult believe when he's released from prison then (I think) he'll lead them all to paradise. Or at least then they'll get to "phase 2," of proving their beliefs "correct."
Yeah buddy got a life sentence for massive charges including child endangerment, being a child predator- a lot of bad things to children. He's locked up for life.
I’m 76 been ‘out’ for a long time. But years ago I remember the ‘scare’ times. Once we were to wrap a bible in plastic and tape it under our houses so when marshal law begins to confiscate our literature we would still have a bible. Another ‘message’ was keep winter coats by the front door so when ‘we’ were rounded go and marched from our homes if it is winter we can grab our coats. One family in our congregation ran up huge bills thinking they wouldn’t have to pay for it because Armageddon was coming in 1975. But when 1975 came and went so did that family. Bankruptcy and they moved. The worst for me as a teenager was when John Kennedy was running for president. I was terrified because if he became president he would implement marshal law to force all people to become catholic. One terror after another!!!!
Very interesting, thank you for sharing.
As of the new annual meeting, they have flip-flopped on this and now you can leave the religion as long as you come back before Armageddon so even when the great tribulation starts, it’s OK because you can still come back before Armageddon starts. I’m dead serious it’s insanity.
I wonder if this is why my parents are visiting when I wasn’t necessarily expecting them too. Oh lord the awkward conversations that will he had.
"Judgement", I still haven't heard a satisfactory explanation as to why a god described as omniscient would ever have a valid reason to judge anybody. What would be the point if you're a god who creates people a certain way, and you know exactly what they will eventually do during their lives?
Yes, we were created a "certain way" ...with free will.
All will be, and should be judged for how they used that freedom.
@@mattmurdock2868Free will is meaningless with such a deity, along with judgement.
@@Akira625
No. That's ignorance.
It could be that you haven't used your free will to harm others; many do.
Those who use their free will to prey on children should face a judgment.
Those who exercise their will to take the life of another should face a judgment.
Those who rape, murder, molest children...all of this calls out for divine justice.
"For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad."
2.Cor.5:10
This is good and right.
@@mattmurdock2868 and yet, the almighty and all powerful god, who is omniscient and knows who you are and what will you do... doesnt smite you where you stand when you begin to act on your evil thoughts?
In fact, there are FAR too many stories of the criminals never facing justice, getting away with it, and leaving countless victims to suffer. Or are you going to now pull out the victim-blame excuses to justify that?
@@mattmurdock2868 It doesn't work this way though. Those are just beliefs.
Interesting the link between Relevations and Nero. The reference to being dressed in purple relates to tyrian purple which was made by shells and very expensive and sought after by emperors and high nobles. Just something I remember from my days of chemistry lessons from about 3 decades ago.
Like any book of fables or stories it is always good to look at them in context of the time and place they were written.
Tyrian purple dye stank like dead fish. Great way to tell when the nobles were coming.
@christophersmith3867 That's a good point. I seem to remember that some dyes were also bonded using uric acid, possibly as a catalyst in the process. So, the smell of fish and urine would have been an acquired scent if combined.
@@Lee_A_Furby You're right
I completely forgot about the piss component.😂
Phoenicians and The People of “America” also used the purple of shells as wealth exchanges for goods.
@@christophersmith3867That's weirdly interesting...😂
I left something about Bahá'í in the mailbox of a kingdom Hall in Quebec
It was “right around the corner” in late 60’s. Then “at the end of block “ and when I left it - was “next door”. I come from the era of 1975 Armageddon prediction. Which they denied they gave us that date and blamed “certain congregations” for spreading that false date. Problem with that was this false prophecy came directly from the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society.
Wouldn't it be funny if it was LDS missionaries knocking?
The irony 😂
Last time I ran into one I knew in the cashier line and they had to loudly tell me all the secrets of marriage despite him spending decades in a hotel room down the road from his not really wife wife.
His real secret is the jhov prohibition on divorce.
Whole thing turns my stomach despite their public smiley faces.
I find myself on a certain educational campus here in Georgia from time to time. By the student center there's the free-speech area.
Two weeks ago there were Jehovah's witnesses and I got super excited.
I was very nice and polite but I asked them straight up, don't y'all shun members and even family members?
I knew the answer to this question but I wanted to see what they would say and of course, they acted surprised and shocked that I would even suggest such a thing.
I mentioned yourself and a few other stories that I've heard about people leaving and or being excommunicated by the JW.
This is in the middle of nowhere Georgia too and it concerns me because younger/newer students are very vulnerable to these type of approaches of community these cults take. Especially those that have come to school and are away from home.
I love watching you talk about Jehovah's witness stuff and I hope the family and yourself as well, Owen! 😊
The college you attend is breaking the law.
WE ALL HAVE FREE SPEECH ANYWHERE IN THE USA!
And ESPECIALLY on government subsidized campuses!!!!
I was in the 5th grade in 1970 and my best friend was a Jehovah's Witness. (Her mother had converted from Catholicism after she and her husband divorced). Of course as a 10 year old girl, I was wanting to talk about being 16 one day and being allowed to date. I remember my friend told me she would never be allowed to date because "the world was going to end anyway, so why date or marry". So, I thought they always believed this was the end of times.
I go to the library of a local university a few times a week. This fall semester there has been a JW information table in the library courtyard every day. I don't remember seeing anything like this, and I spend a lot of time on college campuses.
Incidentally I have never been involved with the JW's, I am a history professor who occasionally reads about doomsday cults.
17:08 The description of the "harlot" sounds a lot like how some of the more fringe Protestant denominations describe the Catholic Church.
That's how the JW's characterized the Catholic Church at one point, not sure is they still do.
It does sound like more like Catholics than the UN, the wealth, incense etc.
I open the door to JWs and let them know I want to live in any world without them, no matter how "bad" they think it might be.
😂😂good one..me too
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This kinda goes with what happened recently for me. Had some come up to my house as I was outside and they just told me to please read the Bible and they walked off. Didn't ask me to join or anything like that.
No more bastards knocking on doors? Good! Scram.
The police are all like, “We’re here about your car’s extended warranty!”
That sounds like an escalation within JWs.. I find that scary as heck.. I *really * hope they won't become the next "Jonestown"..
I find it heartbreaking..
They want to be victims sooooo bad
Also those ‘harlot’ painting, would be awesome metal album covers!
As an artist, the Harlot paintings would be an awesome villain character, Imma steal it and make an Original Character around thar concept honestly 😂
Oh my god, ok it's happening everybody stay calm
Those 2 pics would make great album covers
My mother was one, she ended up leaving and turning to drugs. Because of that my siblings and I were taken from her and sent to live with my grandmother who was still one. She abused me, to the point a friend's mom saw my back and legs from her beating me with a switch until I bled. She went to the elders who sat me down with my grandmother and asked if I was abused. I was 10 of course I'm not going to say anything while my grandmother is sitting across from me shooting daggers from her eyes at me. It didn't matter due to nobody else witnessing her beating me. I left the religion at 16, I'm 43 but just hearing this the PTSD of the trauma of the repeated YOU'RE GOING TO DIE creeps in. Child abuse
What weird timing for this video. Noticed my JW neighbour's blinds, shades and curtains have been drawn for weeks now :(.
Armageddon is not happening. Because we would've already experienced it. 😂
We might very well end our reign on earth ourselves or by impact from Space of impactor or beam of energy from a supernova or many other disasters...but what ISNT GONNA HAPPEN is people whisked into the sky to "heaven". Honestly the more politics and world events I hear and comment sections I read, the less I am afraid of humanity facing sudden extinction.
Its ok everything is ok
@@norml.hugh-mann Thing is, JW's don't believe in the rapture, or heaven really (at least as most Christians do), so your statement to a JW would just re-affirm their own beliefs. Not saying you're wrong to say, I'm just saying that's how all doomsday cults are. If they say the world is going to end in ash, but someone else says it'll be burned in fire, the JWs will say well those people aren't correct because it's not the fire that will kill the sinners, it's the ASH! Forget that you need one to get the other, it's *technically* incorrect, so in their minds that means they're right.
However pointless religious wars will still happen
@@norml.hugh-mann UNLESS there is an intelligent race that picks up select humans in a giant AI space craft thus saving our species.
Maybe they're eyeing a piece of land in Guyana.
I don’t get why they are going to knock on your door and say you are going to Hell but you can’t join them so what? Goodbye? No one going to attack them, although if they bunker down and don’t send their kids to school someone will check on them.
I grew up a JW, and all of this is spot on. I even remember the image of the whore on the beast thing. Things have gotten increasingly weird over the last several years and people seem more on edge. This is not a great time for a doomsday message. I'm honestly worried that there will be some sad self endings over this if they push it harder than they have in the past.
I recently got a letter from Jehovah's witnesses (really, my roommate got it and gave it to me because I find reading some of that stuff to be amusing) now I want to get it out of my non urgent mail and read it just to see what it says
I remember the first video playing at the convention and people around me were sobbing, it’s fucking crazy what this “religion” does. Also the images of that women at the end, omg I remember those illustrations 😭😭
Yeah, I used to be all about it for 20 years but noticed that even as the elders were attempting to aim me towards becoming an elder I noticed that they were not adhering to all of the scriptural guidelines of their position. Now I am past all of that.
The last conversation I had with my JW brother was a phone call in mid 2009 that ended with him spitting with rage at me because of how I challenged his fairly new found beliefs. I miss the brother I had before he was lured into this cult, but I have no regrets with how things ended up. He's a different person now. One that holds no place in my life and that I can't see ever changing, and I'm ok with that.
My grandmother was a devote Seventh day Adventist till her vary end. Every single month the church would bring her some type of propaganda booklet and magazine. It is sad they would scare all of there members into this mindset of Armageddon and fear just to keep the control intact. I grew up in the church didn't get baptized. And i could tell you the shit i would hear from the pulpits was all about fear, propaganda, and hate for non believers. There quest to be one of the 144000 is just ridiculous. Sad i left the church at a young age and enjoyed my youth. Became a Mormon as a adult then left religion all together. Religion divides everyone in the end. Treat each other as you would want to be treated and live your life free from religious organizations who really just want your money 💰 and your life.
Sorry if I've misunderstood, but are you saying that the SEA also believe in the 144,000? Thanks.
SDA. I was being lazy. Sorry.
@hicsumfabulalepus yes they do and the whore of Babylon and the beast