In NY, it kinda makes sense to not need overhead signs for exits for other interstate highways (in the tolled sections of 90 and 87). There isn’t a need to determine what lane you need to be in since the exits were designed to pass through the toll booths before entering the other road. Same thing on the PA turnpike since both were built before the interstate highway system was established.
Great work on this. I'll add that westbound at NY/PA border does have a welcome to PA sign. It's the same as the one at the OH/PA border eastbound. That rest area was under construction for a bit which is why you probably couldn't find a sign. But it is there now. I'm also a bit surprised you didn't highlight Angola service plaza which has the pedestrian bridge. Every trip to Buffalo and eastbound, Angola is the place to be. Keep up the fantastic work.
Agreed, the NY thruway service centers are very much a thing unlike any other interstate. It also sucks more that NY does not have Milemarker-based exits and you basically have to use a NYDOT website/app to calculate the mileage to the service center you want. It was a pain last year when most of them were torn down for reconstruction.
It's interesting, the 3 longest interstates in the country: I-90, I-80, and I-40 all pass through beautiful mountains in both the western and eastern parts of the United States. On the west side I-90, I-80, and I-40 all pass through the Rockies, and on the east side they also pass through the Appalachians, they are both the largest mountain chains in the western and eastern parts of the US respectively. Great videos Todd! Can't wait for I-94 and I-95! :)
Just to be complete, I-90 also goes through the Black Hills and the Cascades. I-80 also goes through the Sierra Nevada and the Coast Ranges. I-40 goes through the Ouachita/Ozark Mts. in Arkansas and the San Francisco Peaks in Arizona.
Coming out of the westbound Big Dig tunnels (the portion from 93 east to the airport and Eastie) at night, when the buildings are lit up, is always a magical sight.
I was amazed driving through it southbound during my 2022 summer road trip. Only afterwards, at my hotel between New London and New Haven did I learn from my father (a Civil and Environmental Engineering professor at the University of Nevada) that it experienced a fatal incident shortly after opening…
@dylanlowers5236 Meh. I drove it headed eastbound during my 2022 summer road trip. I have a Corolla, so it can handle curves at higher speeds. I took it at 50 without slowing, and it was just fine!
In Pennsylvania, I-90 runs through a "panhandle" which is very brief, so apparently not even Pennsylvania can screw up control cities. Similar to I-83.
@dylanlowers5236 The small corner of Millcreek that I 90 goes through. Although, Millcreek is too big to be a “suburb” (54k vs 95k), and has practically EVERYTHING Erie is known for: Presque Isle, Millcreek Mall, and Waldemeer…
@@tylermarchand2996 Going off of memory here, but I’m fairly certain that I-90 doesn’t actually enter Millcreek Township in PA. Coming from the west: PA 98 is in Fairview township, PA 832 and I-79 are both in McKean Township, US 19 and PA 97 are in Summit Township. It MAY graze Millcreek at PA 8 because I had a friend in college that lived just north of I-90 that went to McDowell HS. Everything east or west of those exits is beyond Millcreek’s borders.
We call it the “Erie Triangle”. It was originally part of New York until 1784 when they defined their border. It was then claimed by PA, MA, and CT until land claims with the federal government were settled in 1792. Land claims between PA and the Iroquois and Seneca were settled in the interim. There is a historical marker in McKean symbolizing this.
@jacindaspeaks According to Google Maps, it actually does. Not the part where everything Erie is known for (Presque Isle, Millcreek Mall and Waldameer Park) is, but Exit 29 for Wattsburg Rd (it looks like there’s a Days Inn there) is within the township lines. My main point was that somehow, none of Erie’s best known attractions are in the city itself, which I don’t think is that common…
Yay, Massachusetts, my home state! Frist, it's WOOS-ter. In Western MA, there is no exit in Stockbridge, home of the Norman Rockwell Museum, so West Stockbridge, a separate town, is correct. For the westbound I-95 intersection to Waltham (no schwa on the second syllable), signing that suburb, just north of I-90, would be correct in that direction as if one were going to Portsmouth NH from Boston, the highway of choice would be I-93 north or the slower US 1 north through Saugus and Lynnfield. Getting back to the Worcester area, I-395 and I-290 are the same highway. I-290 north of Masspike is the original spur that was intended to be a loop highway that only got as far as I-495 in Marlboro due to community opposition east of I-495; the super-2 that continues into Hudson is simply called to MA 85. I-395 south of Masspike was originally CT 52 / MA 52 until 1983 when the highway was upgraded to interstate status. The number change officially is where the highways meet US 20 nearby. MassDOT is considering renumbering I-290 to I-395 for numeric continuity as the mile markers and exits for I-290 do not reset to zero; instead, they continue from I-395. Stay tuned for that. Also, the next exit to the east, MA 146, which got added around 1990, is signed for Providence RI, the first taste of the Ocean State on that highway. Some internet gurus opine that MA 146 / RI 146 should be renumbered to I-190, which does exist north of the Masspike going to Leominster (pronounced LEMON-stir) and Fitchburg. I don't see that upgrade coming anytime soon as portions of that highway in both states are far from being up to interstate status. I-495 signage is interesting. Until sometime in the late 1990s or early 2000s, the original sign eastbound on Masspike was "NH - Maine" on the top line and "Cape Cod" on the lower line. Westbound signage for that highway was Marlboro on the top line and Milford on the bottom line. You would agree with the change that was made there. You will have more to say when you cover MA I-495, the second longest auxilary interstate in the system. Lastly, Quincy (pronounced quinzee, as opposed to how Quincy IL is pronounced, though both Quincys are sister cities) is a major suburb south of Boston. Knowing how you hate states for being provincial, Cape Cod would probably be a better choice as someone else has said in the comments.
Agree with all Edward's comments. On Quincy I think this makes sense on 90 East. If you'd wanted Providence you would take 95 (or 146). Cape Cod isn't a bad choice though. On the 93 video we'll see South signed for Quincy pretty much to the bitter end of 93...
For southbound I-93 leaving Boston, why would MassDOT sign Boston's southern satellite city named Quincy, MA? For me, it's fine and after that, it'll sign Providence, RI.
Quincy I think is signed because it's the junction with MA-3 (which then goes to Cape Cod). I agree though; Quincy shouldn't be the control city, it should be Cape Cod/Providence.
@@Vitemer448 we kinda jokingly (actually not a joke) to say it is because in every single morning, the northbound I-93 is jammed up all the way to Quincy, so everyone know where is Quincy
It’s WOOS-ter, and QUIn-zee to the locals. And locals will NEVER refer to that stretch of I-95 as anything other than “128”. 95 might as well not exist between Canton and Peabody (pronounced PEE-bdee). I-395 was created in the mid-80’s to the former Route 52, part of which in CT served as the eastern part of the former CT Turnpike, so it came along about 15 years after I-290. CT refused the 290 designation since its parent didn’t enter the state, so 395 was chosen as a compromise. And there is NOTHING like a game at Fenway. Go Sox!!
Great job the on the 90 videos! I also like the idea of a video combining all the I-90 videos. Excited for I-95. Annnd I-96, it goes directly through my hometown, Cascade.
I always liked the stretch between Rocky Mount, NC and Fredericksburg, Virginia. Heck, I even know all the Exits (Exit 138 to VA Exit 126) on that stretch. Me and my family would always drive that part to visit my Grandparents in Fuquay-Varina. We then moved backed to North Carolina in 2018. After 2018, I've been on that stretch of Highway only twice since then.
Am I the only one is here just for the scenery across the country? I don't really care about what control cities are signed. Though I do think of Limon, CO now when I read about Lyman Ukraine thanks to this channel. "We're merrily on our way to no where in particular"🎶
@ericthompson749 I think I 83 had agreeable choices. I will wholeheartedly defend their signing of York, as if you looked at all the surrounding townships, you’ll see it is quite big, even by Pennsylvania standards…
I mentioned this elsewhere but I remember reading that the Thruway was actually supposed to be routed much closer to Rochester but the local politicians pissed off the state politicians resulting in its current alignment. The one major city that the Thruway actually goes right through outside Westchester is Utica, actually separating its north side from the rest of the city. And yes, the Thruway does enter Albany's city limits but it's mainly the outer fringes.
This video brought back memories of my move from Denver to Nashua. We drove on this entire eastern stretch of I-90, and it was the best part of our trip! Cleveland was worth stopping for the night, and I was also able to fulfil my dream of visiting Niagara Falls. But nothing could beat the feeling of driving back into Boston, the city I first called home in the US. The MA part of I-90 is a road I drive on frequently, and there is an "END I-90" sign. And I too learned recently that Worcester is pronounced "WOOS-ter", haha
391 was added fairly late (basically because Chicopee which has most of the mileage of 391 was in Ed Boland's district and Holyoke was in Silvio Conte's district: both were fairly powerful Congressmen by the 1970s and 1980s) to the system. It's barely a mile from the 91 interchange and wouldn't really add any access opportunities relative to the 91 and MA-33 interchanges on either side.
I make the drive between Buffalo and Ohio a few times a year and every time I go past the exit in Ohio for Vrooman Rd (3:33) I say to myself "I'm really Vrooman right now"
Wow! We went to the northeast and all the the control cities were really good and understandable. I did think it's a bit funny that NY doesn't mention Boston until it's the most profitable to do so lol
@kevinrussell3501 As an overhead, Albany is a good place to start advertising Boston; on mileage signs, it shouldn’t NEED to be advertised until close to Worcester…
Spent a week in Utica waiting on a major repair to the Peterbilt I was driving... I don't think I've ever been that bored in my life. That stupid 35mph 90° curve in Cleveland almost caught me by surprise once. Never did I expect such a sharp curve on an interstate.
@JMccovery Try driving I 84 down Cabbage Hill in Eastern Oregon. Those curves are, from what I understand, the tightest allowed on the Interstate system.
It's not unheard of for a particularly long home run from Fenway to land in the westbound lanes of I-90... since the highway is well below the level of the field, it's probably the equivalent of a 500' or so shot.
WOW I actually see one of the control freak videos the day it was posted. Looking forward to 94 video. That is the next interstate that was important in my life besides 465, 475, 480, 65, 69, 70, 71, 74, 75, 80, and 90. Not a listing of all the interstate highways I have driven on, but the ones I have driven the most.
I personally feel a bit upset that Todd didn't see the I-90 end sign in Massachusetts. I've seen it before... Overall, I'm really happy with how this video turned out, I can't wait to see I-91 and I-93 in Massachusetts, along with I-95 of course
I think it's currently taken down/covered as part of work on the McClellan Highway and the merge with 1A. I don't remember any of the I-90 termini over the years having an "X miles to Seattle" sign, though Massachusetts does have such signs for US 20 and US 6 (though 20's is incorrect).
Oh man I definitely was reading your mind when showing Downtown Cleveland. I had to watch the tourism video again! “Come and look at both of our buildings!”
PA actually does something right on I-90! 😮 I like the pilgrim hat for the MA Turnpike sign. The PA Turnpike sign really should be your money flying away, because that’s what it does (even with an EZ Pass)! 💸💸💸
The original sign had an arrow going through the hat. Any symbolism from Mr. Callahan that that motif might have had regarding Yankee power is purely coincidental.
After the arrow-through-the-pilgrim-hat sign was retired, a new logo sign for Masspike had the pilgrim hat at the same angle, with the same colors, without the arrow. The current sign has the pilgrim hat perfectly centered. It looks too "corporate" or "commercial" for my taste. But who has any taste for anything anyway? :)
91 is going to be quite interesting for control cities especially northbound past Springfield MA. You have Northhampton MA white river junction VT then St Johnsbury VT finally Quebec
@rngfootball759 My solution is just Sherbrooke once past Springfield. Nothing in eastern Vermont is really that big. 268 miles on the bottom line of mileage signs is probably going to feel like a long haul (especially by New England standards), but everything else is really small. I'm in a part of the country where the eastbound control out of my hometown is 284 miles, when it really should be 513...
The likely reason 290 and 395 aren't the same road is because 290 was built and named, and embedded in local awareness, decades before 395 was even dreamed about. The tail end of the (former) Connecticut Turnpike was intended to aim at Providence, not Worcester. It wasn't til the casinos arrived that traffic began to justify extending the highway northward. (That part of the Turnpike was a VERY lonely road for a long time.)
11:25 Taunton Is A Town In Southeastern Massachusetts Between North Of Fall River, East Of Providence, South Of Boston and West Of Cape Cod And The Near By Interstate Routes We’re Route 24, I-495, & Route 44
Good review. I've driven the Albany/90 section and the thruway alternative and I actually prefer the thruway because there are fewer exits and better traffic flow.
So the reason why NYSDoT/NYSTA wants long-distance traffic to take I-87 -> Berskhire Connector rather than just staying on I-90 is because I-90 actually goes through Albany whereas I-87 skirts around it. I imagine they want to keep long-distance traffic out of Albany especially because that section of I-87 has a 65 mph speed limit whereas I-90 through Albany has a 55 mph speed limit. (Okay, and maybe just to get an extra dollar or two from each driver). Tbh, I feel like they should just reroute I-90 onto I-87/Berkshire Connector and the current free section just becomes a 3di.
There is a "Welcome to New York" sign on I-90 west from Massachusetts, but for some reason, they put it after the exit ramp for NY-22. No idea why they do that.
Can't wait for US 90. I live kind of in between US 331 and US 90. I probably should do a $5 super chat about King Lake Rd which links the two west of the interchange at the Tom Thumb in Defuniak Springs.
Thanks! I'd love to have you show my exit, once you get to the I-95 video. Exit 9 (Marsh Rd.) in Delaware!!! I added another $5 for the amazing content!!!
@Control City Freak You're very welcome! Just wait until you see the inglorious entity we call DelDOT! There is no signed exit 2 on I-95 (it's the Biden Travel Plaza), all exits are sequential, and I-295 & I-495 are designed to be disasters. The signage is surprisingly good though.
Did you know that in terms of driving distance Billings, MT is roughly equal in distance to Key West, FL as it is to Anchorage, AK? Billings is 2,631 mi from Anchorage, and is 2,637 mi from Key West.
@davidburrow5895 Except there is no one Trans-Canada Highway. A spur serves Edmonton, the route breaks into three through Ontario, a spur exists on the north side of the St. Lawrence River past Quebec City, and another spur serves Prince Edward Island. I’m planning on doing the mainline (through Sudbury and North Bay) for a road trip across Canada this summer. However, I’m cutting out the ends with ferries (Vancouver Island and Newfoundland), limiting the extent to Vancouver-Cape Breton. My biggest concerns are whether I’m going to need to get a special credit card (I have the Wyndham app on my phone, and reservations require credit cards), and if I need to spend the next four months learning French on the off chance I have a hotel stop in Quebec.
You're my hero, Todd! Hope you can check out my home turf, Exit 20B along I-95 northbound in Maryland (MD-450 Annapolis Rd towards Bladensburg). Happy travels!
To answer a question, that one Framingham sign is there because it's the hub for most of Greater Boston/rural Massachusetts, and all the locals know what it is, with its big shopping malls and such, so that's why the one Framingham sign is there.
I remember Worcester was hardly mentioned along the Mass Pike except for the Worcester exit. Now that it's grown to the second largest city in New England, it's good to see them mentioned more now.
In raw city population, Worcester is the second biggest. However, I think metro population is a better indicator, and under this metric, it’s 5th, with Providence (1.7M, buoyed by New Bedford and its environs), Hartford (1.2M), and just below Bridgeport (970k).
Thanks for confirming how frickin dumb the I-790 designation in Utica is. In high school during my trip through there I could not wrap my head around it. Felt like it took 4 loop ramps just to get to Utica from 90 WB. Also I see all of what you did there when highlighting 90 WB in Downtown Cleveland lol
790 was a two lane road on the south side of the Thruway until 1987 when it was placed on the current freeway alignment on both sides of the Thruway. Even then, you still have to use surface streets to get on 790 from the Thruway. I think the NY 5/8/12 freeway north out of Utica, which also carries part of 790, came considerably later than the Thruway which is why the Utica exit is so far from that freeway, which actually at Genesee Street which used to carry NY 5/8/12. Which would explain 790's weird design.
Not signing Portsmouth NH on westbound I-90 on northbound I-95 makes sense. If you were in downtown Boston, you would have taken I-93 to get to Portsmouth. If you are at Logan, you would take Mass 1A to I-93 to Portsmouth. I have driven I-93 through the Big Dig. It was surprisingly easy when I was traveling through Boston.
OK, I can't help myself with one more, and I feel like I-97 will need all the help it can get to make it more interesting anyway. My baby daughter's first interstate was I-97, which we entered at its southern endpoint from US-50 on the way back from the hospital. Love you, My-My!
11:22 MassDOT caught red-handed! Notice the overhead sign reads "exit 106" but the gore sign reads "exit 11A". But as a lifelong resident of the Bay State, I approve of this video's thumbnail 1000%!
While Cleveland is closer you’ll find much better flights into Detroit if you fly. Car rental prices should be about the same and it’s only a little under a 2 hour drive.
The Eastern I-90 is the section I spent the most time on. Me and my family would always travel from Detroit to Boston to meet friends for Thanksgiving and we would take the 401 through Ontario to the New York border in Niagara Falls and then take 190 to 90, and you actually covered the Exit on the Mass Pike we got off on - Exit 127 for Newton, which is a very beautiful suburb of Boston where our friends lived before they moved out of the country unfortunately. I miss them very much. If I ever had the money and if I ever had an opportunity to live in Boston I would definitely pick Newton. It’s an awesome place. And I believe there actually is an END I-90 sign on Highway 1A, I think you might have missed it. I remember seeing it on the Wikipedia page for the Mass Pike so you look there. And are you sure there isn’t a ‘Welcome to New York’ sign on the MA-NY border? I remember seeing it a mile or two in the last time I was on I-90 with my folks in that area, in 2010. There’s also a ‘Leaving Massachusetts’ sign as well on Eastbound I-90 as well. Well, can’t wait for I-91…when you get to it lol. I was actually going to ask you if you were going to do Supercut videos of I-90 Eastbound and Westbound actually. Though will you include the 80/90 concurrency in said Supercuts?
Yeah on the Thruway, they like to say that the road is now the Thruway and then within about a mile, you have the Welcome to New York / Check out the wine trails / etc. signs that are the de facto welcome signs
A thought exercise: What are the most “disrespected” control cities by DOTs? Either medium size cities that get ignored or big cities that aren’t signed enough. A few examples: Springfield, MO South Bend Philadelphia Bozeman Richmond Gainesville Rochester (MN and NY)
There is an END I-90 sign at Highway 1A, it’s just not on a overhead sign. A few times in the past, I tried to find a I-90 End sign in the Seattle side, could not find one at all so I don’t think there is any in the Seattle terminus.
Looks like we differ quite a bit on I-93. I’m fine with Quincy going south, although wouldn’t mind signing Cape Cod. Not a fan of Concord going north though, should be Manchester.
@ethanellis4662 From what I see on Google Maps, my guess is that it is intended for Manchester traffic to use U.S. 3 through Lowell and Nashua, considering I 93 only brushes the eastern edge of Manchester...
It's generally less stressful (and especially at rush hour faster) to just stay on the Thruway instead of take 90 through Albany. I figure that's worth paying the toll.
Agreed, especially if you're already on the Thruway, it's worth the extra $2.50/$3. From the Northway though it's sort of six of one half a dozen of the other.
The Turnpike Extension in the early 60s (in modern terms, the portion from 95 to 93) was actually a bit of a masterpiece of getting stuff done. The official federal plan was to route 90 into Boston on the north side of the Charles as a freeway (whether 90 would go out to Albany via the MA-2 corridor (Acton/Fitchburg/Athol/Greenfield/North Adams) or follow US-20 out through Marlborough and Worcester and then join the Turnpike in Auburn wasn't decided). Had the Extension not been built, it's doubtful that would have been built: the freeway revolts in Boston started very soon afterwards. You had three pieces on the chessboard: * Prudential insurance, which wanted to build the tallest building in North America outside of New York City * the Boston & Albany railroad (part of the NY Central system), which wanted to reduce its property tax bills * the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, which wanted to build the Extension So the agreement that the three came to was that Prudential would buy the B&A's rail yards and rent them to the B&A (Prudential would now be on the hook for the property taxes) and build the skyscraper on a deck over the yards. The rail line from basically where it crosses the Charles would be bought by the Turnpike Authority (making it responsible for property taxes: the Turnpike Authority, at least prior to its being merged into the newly formed MassDOT, paid local property taxes on the highway) and the Authority would grant the B&A and its successors control over running trains, and the Authority would use eminent domain to take the rest of the right of way it needed. This was controversial: Newton in particular is one of the wealthier large suburbs in America (and relatively even moreso then): think Palo Alto or Scarsdale or Winnetka and you're not far off (I grew up for a bit in Newton Centre: neighbors of mine would have included Sumner Redstone and Robert Kraft). Eventually Prudential said they wouldn't build the skyscraper (which was a key part of the urban renewal vision for Boston) unless the Extension was built, and so the Prudential Tower/Center was built on air rights over the Extension and the railroad (which moved its yards first to Allston (the land for the new yard will be redeveloped as part of Harvard University). As part of building the Extension the Star Market supermarket in Newtonville was going to have its land taken: rather than fight, the Authority and Star Market agreed to let Star Market build a new supermarket on air rights over the highway. The Authority (being at some level still private, or at the very least not bound by federal laws about what you can and can't do on an interstate because legally the entirety of I-90 is merely designated I-90: it's not actually legally an interstate...) would develop quite a knack for selling air rights over the highway. Pretty much anything related to infrastructure in the Boston area is a real estate development play when you get down to it.
If you come back to Mass I’ll get you tickets for a Sox game! Gotta play Roadrunner by The Modern lovers too when you reach state route 128 / i95 in Dedham or Peabody pronounced (p’biddy)
Thanks! When you get to I 95 in Florida and South Carolina maybe a Ron Jon surf shop billboard in Florida near Cocco Beach and SOBorder ( South of the Border) near South Carolina/ North Carolina border.
@@ControlCityFreak Also on I-95, in North Carolina between the US 64 exit and US 158 exit, there are billboards that promote the Roanoke Rapids Exits (Exits 171 and 173). Can you show those too?
Also, the exit onto 291 in Springfield has a traffic light at the end of the ramp and 291 begins and ends at that traffic and it becomes a regular surface road. And lastly, Rochester has grown to the point that it has nearly as many people as Buffalo will likely overtake Buffalo as the state's second largest city in the next census. However Buffalo's metro area is still considerably larger.
Actually, I don’t think the MSA populations are that different. Buffalo is 1.15M (Erie and Niagara), while Rochester is about 1.05M (Monroe, Ontario, Wayne, Genesee, Orleans and Yates).
@@tylermarchand2996 Rochester's is way more spread out than Buffalo's and contains a lot of rural areas surrounding the population centers of the outer counties. Seneca County alone is about 30-40 miles from Rochester. Buffalo borders the towns of Tonawanda, Amherst, and Cheektowaga, all of which have populations greater than or almost greater than Syracuse. Also, Cattaraugus County was part of Buffalo's metro area but was removed for the 2020 census.
Did you know that on the NY Thruway (I-90 Section): Westbound Traffic apparently gets 10 Service Plazas while Eastbound Traffic only gets 9. I don't know why that is, but it seems a bit odd...
Kansas turnpike does the same, 17 minutes further and $7.00 cash or $4.75 with KTAG they try and send you from Emporia to Topeka heading ultimately to end just West of Kansas City Kansas, when I-35 is untolled between Emporia and Kansas City... all for the revenue though I-70 out west has seen some recent upgrades, surprisingly just as the soccer team, racetrack, casino and outlet Mecca were opened (every Krispy Kreme in Kansas City metro area closed except this one, now two others opened and this closed
For the Thruway New York City refers to the Bronx Westchester County border. For I-90 East of Syracuse this can also be Utica Albany NYC for milage signs East of Utica Exit 31 milage sign can be Albany Boston NYC seen at 7:43. The Thruway Distance signs calculates Boston Distance via Exit 21A I-90 East Massachusetts Turnpike Boston. 8:45 those signs there are actually helpful for a driver who has to drive twin 48-53ft trailers from Boston,MA to the NY Pennsylvania Border Exit 61 Thruway or Canadian Border if allowed to cross. Recent For it's that the New York State Department of Transportation doesn't allow twin 48-53ft trailers on their section of I-90 in Albany. If you get to I-287 Northbound/Eastbound Morristown/Mahwah Tappan Zee Bridge White Plains New Haven CT Southbound/Westbound White Plains/Tappan Zee Bridge Morristown Somerville/New Brunswick Exits 8-10 Staten Island. 20:52 Explanation is this you have NFL Pittsburgh Steelers and Buffalo Bills NHL Sabers Penguins because eastern Pennsylvania tends to support the Philadelphia teams western part of Pennsylvania Pittsburgh where Erie is
Quincy MA has a population of over 100,000. Also if you’re coming from the west you wouldn’t drive into Boston to get to Providence. From 90 you’d either take 146 south, 495 to 95, or 95.
Before the exit for MA 146 was constructed in 1990, MA 122, the next exit east of 146, was signed (secondarily) for Providence, even if it took a while to get there, for example, via Uxbridge MA and Woonsocket RI.
I've been eagerly awaiting the part I'm familiar with (from Syracuse to Cleveland). I was surprised that you actually didn't have a fit about PA signage, although I find the interchanges in Erie to be quite odd signing 2 different roads at a time. There is a PA welcome sign going westbound, but I think it is usually obstructed by trees, (and may be on the other side of the highway IIRC?). You are also quite close to the lake in PA it is usually quite windy all the time for that stretch, dicy if you drive a truck or large RV. Pictures don't tell the story but the NY thruway west of Syracuse used to be just terrible! Horribly maintained, only finally fixed now after the covid break and when they got rid of the toll booths. There is a section just west of Buffalo that goes through a First Nation's reservation that used to be so bad the speed limit was 45MPH and was dangerous! The reservation was very vocal of their disdain for NY government and NY cut their state funding for road work because the reservation would use it for other things instead. If not going to downtown Cleveland by all means take 271 and not that wild bend in Cleveland. I have a friend in Euclid, good times.
I 90 early efforts. Post Pennsylvania Turnpike extensions to Interstate Highway signing act 1956. Mostly early to mid 50s States in the Mid West were coming up with idea's for a Toll roads and expressways for the region. Early example The Pennsylvania Turnpike would be extended into Ohio and New Jersey . The New Jersey Turnpike, Massachusetts Turnpike, New York Thruway ,Indiana Toll road, Chicago skyway , Ohio Turnpike ext. Most these would be be built from the Mid 50s to late 50s.
I 90 New York State History. With the New York Thruway making up the most mileage of I 90. The New York Thruway completed in 1957. With the New York starting in the New York City Area the lowest sequenceal numbers start there and Exit 61 near Ripley New York near the pa state line. Albany finished 1977 east of Albany.
Fun fact. Not only does the Thruway try to get you to stay on their roadways to Boston so you can keep paying tolls, you also pay an extra toll for crossing the Hudson.
Is there a reason why the Castleton Bridge collects tolls BOTH directions? Every other Hudson River crossing downstream of it is only tolled eastbound. Even the Tappan Zee Bridge (I learned in the I 87 video that people REALLY hate the other name) only collects entering Westchester County…
@@tylermarchand2996 it's likely a Thruway thing. And according to Wikipedia, it's only an extra 60 cents to cross in each direction. Also, there were never any toll booths on either side of the bridge so the extra cost would be paid depending what exit you got off at when the ticket would be surrendered.
@@tylermarchand2996 also, tolls on the Tappan Zee were collected in both directions. That changed in 1970 with the westbound tolls being eliminated and the eastbound tolls doubling in price.
@@tylermarchand2996 fun fact, the Castleton Bridge may be the only toll bridge over the Hudson tolled in both directions but it's not the only bridge tolled in both directions on the entire Thruway system. The Grand Island bridges along 190 between Buffalo and Niagara Falls are tolled in both directions. 190 is also part of the Thruway system up to Niagara Falls and was tolled until the late 2000's.
Starting at 4:45, here are the I-90's Exits for New York State (And Yes, I've included the Thruway's Plazas): NY Thruway (Mile)/Exit Number (In I-90 miles) Mile 494/Exit 1- Shortman Rd Mile 485/Exit 11- NY 394 Mile 467/Exit 28- NY 60 Mile 455/Exit 41- NY 5/US 20 NY Thruway Plaza 1 Mile 444/Exit 51- Eden Evans Center Rd Mile 436/Exit 60- NY 75 Mile 432/Exit 64- NY 179 *Entering The Buffalo Suburbs- Break in Toll Portion of NY Thruway* Mile 429/Exit 67- US 219 S Mile 427/Exit 68- NY 400 Mile 426/Exit 70- I-190 Mile 424/Exit 71- William St Mile 423/Exit 73- Walden Ave Mile 421/Exit 74- NY 33 *EB Exit Only* Mile 420.9/Exit 75- Cleveland Dr *WB Merge* Mile 420.3/Exit 76- I-290 *NY Thruway becomes Toll Again- Leaving Buffalo Suburbs* Mile 417/Exit 79- NY 78 A 2nd Plaza for WB Traffic Mile 401/Exit 94- NY 77 A 2nd Plaza for EB Traffic *I-90 Reaches 100 Miles* Mile 390/Exit 106- NY 98 Mile 378/Exit 117- I-490/NY 19 A 3rd Plaza for WB Traffic at NY Thruway Mile 375 A 3rd Plaza for EB Traffic at NY Thruway Mile 365 Mile 362/Exit 134- I-390 Mile 350/Exit 145- I-490 A 4th Plaza for WB Traffic Mile 347/Exit 149- NY 332 Mile 340/Exit 156- NY 21 A 4th Plaza for EB Traffic Mile 327/Exit 169- NY 318/NY 14 A 5th Plaza for WB Traffic Mile 320/Exit 175- NY 414 Mile 304/Exit 192- NY 34 *I-90 reaches 200 miles* A 6th Plaza for WB Traffic (What's the Deal with WB Traffic Plazas?) Mile 289/Exit 206- I-690/NY 690 to Syracuse Mile 285/Exit 210- County Route 57 Mile 283/Exit 212- County Route 148 Mile 282/Exit 213- I-81 Finally a 5th Plaza for EB Traffic! Mile 278/Exit 217- NY 635/NY 298 Mile 276/Exit 219- I-481 A 7th Plaza for WB Traffic Mile 261/Exit 234- NY 13 Mile 252/Exit 243- NY 365 Plaza 6 for EB Traffic Mile 243/Exit 252- NY 233 *Entering Utica* Mile 232/Exit 263- NY 8/NY 12/NY 49/NY 5/I-790 *Leaving Utica* An 8th Plaza for WB Traffic Mile 219/Exit 276- NY 28 to Cooperstown Mile 210/Exit 285- NY 169 A 7th Plaza for EB Traffic while WB gets a 9th One *I-90 reaches 300 Miles* Mile 194/Exit 301- NY 10/NY 5S Mile 182/Exit 314- NY 920P Mile 173/Exit 322- NY 30 An 8th Plaza for EB Traffic while WB gets a 10th One Mile 162/Exit 333- I-890/NY 890 Mile 158/Exit 337- I-88 Mile 153/Exit 342- I-890/NY 7/NY 146 A 9th EB Plaza Mile 148/Exit 348A- I-87 (Transition from NY Thruway to A Normal Freeway) Mile 0.8/Exit 348B- US 20 Mile 0.8/Exit 348C- Washington Ave Mile 1/Exit 350A- Campus Access Rd Mile 2/Exit 350B- NY 85 W Mile 3/Exit 351- Everett Rd Extension Mile 4/Exit 352- Corporate Woods Blvd Mile 5/Exit 353- US 9 Mile 6/Exit 354- I-787 *EB Exit Only* Mile 6.9/Exit 355- Washington Ave *WB Merge* Mile 7/Exit 356- NY 43 Mile 9/Exit 357- US 4 Mile 10/Exit 361- Miller Rd Mile 14/Exit 362- US 20 Mile 19/Exit 367- US 9 (Transition from Normal Freeway to Berkshire Connector) Mile 0/Exit 368- NY 912M to I-87 Mile 15/Exit 377- Taconic State Pkwy Hwy Mile 23/Exit 385- NY 22 *Massachusetts Border* There you have it, all 385 miles of I-90 in New York. Again, I don't why going westbound on the Thruway you get 10 Plazas to stop at, but it is what it is...
To some extent i agree that NYS is trying to get tolls out of people by directing them to the thruway at Albany rather than using I90. However, as a trucker I can say that the thruway is much safer and less chaotic than I90 through Albany and I almost always take that route despite the tolls. Also, I alerted PENNDOT Region 1 to this video (I'm from erie) and they got me in touch with their social media person and they may put it on their website.
Fun fact: I 77 and I 71 are both technically concurrent with I 90 up to Ohio 2, despite signs saying it ends at I 90 I 271 also does this as it is concurrent up to OH 2, they should sign them concurrently and make a Cleveland beltway
8:45 Suuuper fishy. Most tolls between exits are like $0.25-$0.40 (even by plate). Taking the signed route to the Mass Pike from the Thruway will bring you to the Berkshire Connector, at the end of which is a $2.35 toll in-state E-ZPass or $3.05 by plate. As someone else already mentioned though, if you're on the Thruway staying on and paying that toll is definitely less of headache. Loved your comment about Corning Tower 😂 far too big for an Albany building but they gotta house the state workers somehow. Before it was named after the Albany Mayor in the early 80s the geniuses around here called it "Tower Building"
I 90 Pennsylvania history. Originally proposed as the Northwest Turnpike along with Erie to Cranberry Township extension of the Pennsylvania Turnpike later I 79. Changed to I 90 after the Eisenhower Interstate act in 1956. Completed i October 28 1960. In Erie county we sign properly. Jamestown has close ties to Erie county. Lucille Ball with the house statue and comedy museum big tourist draw.
395 was added to the system well after 290 (which was original in the system and intended to be a free bypass of the Turnpike to Waltham, though the portion inside of 495 was never built (which accounts for the configuration of the 290/495 interchange, which is basically the main route out of Maine and most of New Hampshire to 95% or thereabouts of the rest of the US population). IMO, 84 should have been concurrent with 90 and then routed over 290 and the northern portion of 495 to end at 95 just shy of New Hampshire. Alternatively, if we built a freeway (probably a toll road in practice) from 190 in Leominster (would pay money to hear you pronounce that control city :) ) to Manchester NH, we could renumber 395/290/190/NH-101 as I-695: a grand bypass of Boston and Providence.
I tried to help Todd out earlier. Let's see if he is rehearsing for the big moment! And in the comments for the I-84 eastern video, I tried to help out with places along I-91. I-93 and I-95. The good news is that Webster Lake is along I-395. If he does a video for I-395 / I-290, I'll bet that he'll look to the right after crossing the CT/MA border, make one attempt to mispronounce the FULL name of the lake (Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg) and then say, "aw, skip it!" Any bets on how far he'll get in the name?? Better yet, he'll be agog with all 15 G's.
Nothing like waking up on a rainy day and watching Todd first thing in the morning.
I'm witctha buddy!!
Agreed
You got all three I-90 videos with high quality out on time. Well done, Todd!
Thanks again!
In NY, it kinda makes sense to not need overhead signs for exits for other interstate highways (in the tolled sections of 90 and 87). There isn’t a need to determine what lane you need to be in since the exits were designed to pass through the toll booths before entering the other road. Same thing on the PA turnpike since both were built before the interstate highway system was established.
Overheads are more attention-grabbing. They should be used at pretty much every Interstate junction imo
Great work on this. I'll add that westbound at NY/PA border does have a welcome to PA sign. It's the same as the one at the OH/PA border eastbound. That rest area was under construction for a bit which is why you probably couldn't find a sign. But it is there now. I'm also a bit surprised you didn't highlight Angola service plaza which has the pedestrian bridge. Every trip to Buffalo and eastbound, Angola is the place to be. Keep up the fantastic work.
Agreed, the NY thruway service centers are very much a thing unlike any other interstate. It also sucks more that NY does not have Milemarker-based exits and you basically have to use a NYDOT website/app to calculate the mileage to the service center you want. It was a pain last year when most of them were torn down for reconstruction.
It's interesting, the 3 longest interstates in the country: I-90, I-80, and I-40 all pass through beautiful mountains in both the western and eastern parts of the United States. On the west side I-90, I-80, and I-40 all pass through the Rockies, and on the east side they also pass through the Appalachians, they are both the largest mountain chains in the western and eastern parts of the US respectively. Great videos Todd! Can't wait for I-94 and I-95! :)
That’s because of geography in general. Mountains are always closer to the ocean and it’s flatter in the interior
Just to be complete, I-90 also goes through the Black Hills and the Cascades. I-80 also goes through the Sierra Nevada and the Coast Ranges. I-40 goes through the Ouachita/Ozark Mts. in Arkansas and the San Francisco Peaks in Arizona.
@@dmnemaine True dat.
Coming out of the westbound Big Dig tunnels (the portion from 93 east to the airport and Eastie) at night, when the buildings are lit up, is always a magical sight.
The approach to the O'Neill on 93 northbound isn't bad either... especially with how Boston has filled in in the last decade!
I was amazed driving through it southbound during my 2022 summer road trip. Only afterwards, at my hotel between New London and New Haven did I learn from my father (a Civil and Environmental Engineering professor at the University of Nevada) that it experienced a fatal incident shortly after opening…
Beautifully done once again, Todd. You build each video with true passion for a comprehensive effort. Always appreciated and highly valued!
Thanks so much!
That 90* curve in Cleveland is wild
@dylanlowers5236 Meh. I drove it headed eastbound during my 2022 summer road trip. I have a Corolla, so it can handle curves at higher speeds. I took it at 50 without slowing, and it was just fine!
22:44 here’s our split with 77 77be stand for Akron
Super excited for 91, 93, and 95!
Same here!
94 too
In Pennsylvania, I-90 runs through a "panhandle" which is very brief, so apparently not even Pennsylvania can screw up control cities. Similar to I-83.
What would they sign it for? Northeast? Lmao
@dylanlowers5236 The small corner of Millcreek that I 90 goes through. Although, Millcreek is too big to be a “suburb” (54k vs 95k), and has practically EVERYTHING Erie is known for: Presque Isle, Millcreek Mall, and Waldemeer…
@@tylermarchand2996 Going off of memory here, but I’m fairly certain that I-90 doesn’t actually enter Millcreek Township in PA. Coming from the west: PA 98 is in Fairview township, PA 832 and I-79 are both in McKean Township, US 19 and PA 97 are in Summit Township. It MAY graze Millcreek at PA 8 because I had a friend in college that lived just north of I-90 that went to McDowell HS. Everything east or west of those exits is beyond Millcreek’s borders.
We call it the “Erie Triangle”. It was originally part of New York until 1784 when they defined their border. It was then claimed by PA, MA, and CT until land claims with the federal government were settled in 1792. Land claims between PA and the Iroquois and Seneca were settled in the interim. There is a historical marker in McKean symbolizing this.
@jacindaspeaks According to Google Maps, it actually does. Not the part where everything Erie is known for (Presque Isle, Millcreek Mall and Waldameer Park) is, but Exit 29 for Wattsburg Rd (it looks like there’s a Days Inn there) is within the township lines.
My main point was that somehow, none of Erie’s best known attractions are in the city itself, which I don’t think is that common…
Yay, Massachusetts, my home state! Frist, it's WOOS-ter. In Western MA, there is no exit in Stockbridge, home of the Norman Rockwell Museum, so West Stockbridge, a separate town, is correct. For the westbound I-95 intersection to Waltham (no schwa on the second syllable), signing that suburb, just north of I-90, would be correct in that direction as if one were going to Portsmouth NH from Boston, the highway of choice would be I-93 north or the slower US 1 north through Saugus and Lynnfield.
Getting back to the Worcester area, I-395 and I-290 are the same highway. I-290 north of Masspike is the original spur that was intended to be a loop highway that only got as far as I-495 in Marlboro due to community opposition east of I-495; the super-2 that continues into Hudson is simply called to MA 85. I-395 south of Masspike was originally CT 52 / MA 52 until 1983 when the highway was upgraded to interstate status. The number change officially is where the highways meet US 20 nearby. MassDOT is considering renumbering I-290 to I-395 for numeric continuity as the mile markers and exits for I-290 do not reset to zero; instead, they continue from I-395. Stay tuned for that. Also, the next exit to the east, MA 146, which got added around 1990, is signed for Providence RI, the first taste of the Ocean State on that highway. Some internet gurus opine that MA 146 / RI 146 should be renumbered to I-190, which does exist north of the Masspike going to Leominster (pronounced LEMON-stir) and Fitchburg. I don't see that upgrade coming anytime soon as portions of that highway in both states are far from being up to interstate status.
I-495 signage is interesting. Until sometime in the late 1990s or early 2000s, the original sign eastbound on Masspike was "NH - Maine" on the top line and "Cape Cod" on the lower line. Westbound signage for that highway was Marlboro on the top line and Milford on the bottom line. You would agree with the change that was made there. You will have more to say when you cover MA I-495, the second longest auxilary interstate in the system.
Lastly, Quincy (pronounced quinzee, as opposed to how Quincy IL is pronounced, though both Quincys are sister cities) is a major suburb south of Boston. Knowing how you hate states for being provincial, Cape Cod would probably be a better choice as someone else has said in the comments.
Great notes! Yeah Cape Cod or Providence imo
@@ControlCityFreak I would put both.
Agree with all Edward's comments. On Quincy I think this makes sense on 90 East. If you'd wanted Providence you would take 95 (or 146). Cape Cod isn't a bad choice though. On the 93 video we'll see South signed for Quincy pretty much to the bitter end of 93...
I would use Cape Cod for the 93 south junction. I remember there was a 90 end sign when I went there years ago.
For southbound I-93 leaving Boston, why would MassDOT sign Boston's southern satellite city named Quincy, MA? For me, it's fine and after that, it'll sign Providence, RI.
Quincy I think is signed because it's the junction with MA-3 (which then goes to Cape Cod).
I agree though; Quincy shouldn't be the control city, it should be Cape Cod/Providence.
@@Vitemer448 we kinda jokingly (actually not a joke) to say it is because in every single morning, the northbound I-93 is jammed up all the way to Quincy, so everyone know where is Quincy
@@Vitemer448, that interchange of I-93 & MA 3 is called the Braintree Split.
Back in the early 90's, the exit for I-95 was signed for Cape Cod and NH/Maine.
It’s WOOS-ter, and QUIn-zee to the locals. And locals will NEVER refer to that stretch of I-95 as anything other than “128”. 95 might as well not exist between Canton and Peabody (pronounced PEE-bdee). I-395 was created in the mid-80’s to the former Route 52, part of which in CT served as the eastern part of the former CT Turnpike, so it came along about 15 years after I-290. CT refused the 290 designation since its parent didn’t enter the state, so 395 was chosen as a compromise. And there is NOTHING like a game at Fenway. Go Sox!!
“Welcome to Worcester, $1.25 please…”
Great job the on the 90 videos! I also like the idea of a video combining all the I-90 videos. Excited for I-95. Annnd I-96, it goes directly through my hometown, Cascade.
Thanks!
I feel like each time you upload, you're getting closer to my personal favorite Interstate 95
Nah my favorite Interstate Is 86 In NY And Interstate 99 In pa i-90 in ohio and i-76 in pa i-80 in ohio i-90 in pa i-79 in pa and wv
Getting close!
I always liked the stretch between Rocky Mount, NC and Fredericksburg, Virginia. Heck, I even know all the Exits (Exit 138 to VA Exit 126) on that stretch. Me and my family would always drive that part to visit my Grandparents in Fuquay-Varina. We then moved backed to North Carolina in 2018. After 2018, I've been on that stretch of Highway only twice since then.
Am I the only one is here just for the scenery across the country? I don't really care about what control cities are signed. Though I do think of Limon, CO now when I read about Lyman Ukraine thanks to this channel.
"We're merrily on our way to no where in particular"🎶
I-90: The only interstate Pennsylvania does not attach weird provincial control cities to. Erie & Buffalo as control cities make sense for eastbound.
@ericthompson749 I think I 83 had agreeable choices. I will wholeheartedly defend their signing of York, as if you looked at all the surrounding townships, you’ll see it is quite big, even by Pennsylvania standards…
There is no love for any of the Rochesters on I-90
True
I mentioned this elsewhere but I remember reading that the Thruway was actually supposed to be routed much closer to Rochester but the local politicians pissed off the state politicians resulting in its current alignment.
The one major city that the Thruway actually goes right through outside Westchester is Utica, actually separating its north side from the rest of the city. And yes, the Thruway does enter Albany's city limits but it's mainly the outer fringes.
14:31 back in my day, the controls there were Worcester / New York... which is works perfectly well as a simultaneous control city and control state.
This video brought back memories of my move from Denver to Nashua. We drove on this entire eastern stretch of I-90, and it was the best part of our trip! Cleveland was worth stopping for the night, and I was also able to fulfil my dream of visiting Niagara Falls. But nothing could beat the feeling of driving back into Boston, the city I first called home in the US.
The MA part of I-90 is a road I drive on frequently, and there is an "END I-90" sign. And I too learned recently that Worcester is pronounced "WOOS-ter", haha
391 was added fairly late (basically because Chicopee which has most of the mileage of 391 was in Ed Boland's district and Holyoke was in Silvio Conte's district: both were fairly powerful Congressmen by the 1970s and 1980s) to the system. It's barely a mile from the 91 interchange and wouldn't really add any access opportunities relative to the 91 and MA-33 interchanges on either side.
I make the drive between Buffalo and Ohio a few times a year and every time I go past the exit in Ohio for Vrooman Rd (3:33) I say to myself "I'm really Vrooman right now"
Great video! Can't wait for 95. While on 95 I can't wait to see my hometown, the (regionally) famous Metuchen (muhTUCHn) on the NJTPK Exit 10 sign!
Thanks so much! Will do
Wow! We went to the northeast and all the the control cities were really good and understandable. I did think it's a bit funny that NY doesn't mention Boston until it's the most profitable to do so lol
@kevinrussell3501 As an overhead, Albany is a good place to start advertising Boston; on mileage signs, it shouldn’t NEED to be advertised until close to Worcester…
Spent a week in Utica waiting on a major repair to the Peterbilt I was driving... I don't think I've ever been that bored in my life.
That stupid 35mph 90° curve in Cleveland almost caught me by surprise once. Never did I expect such a sharp curve on an interstate.
There used to be a sharp curve in Laurel, MS on I-59, signed for 30 or 35 mph. It broke the monotony of the drive to New Orleans.
@JMccovery Try driving I 84 down Cabbage Hill in Eastern Oregon. Those curves are, from what I understand, the tightest allowed on the Interstate system.
It's not unheard of for a particularly long home run from Fenway to land in the westbound lanes of I-90... since the highway is well below the level of the field, it's probably the equivalent of a 500' or so shot.
Lol I counted the weeks you would get to I-95 and I thought you would get to it at the beginning of April but you keep pushing it back.😂
WOW I actually see one of the control freak videos the day it was posted. Looking forward to 94 video. That is the next interstate that was important in my life besides 465, 475, 480, 65, 69, 70, 71, 74, 75, 80, and 90. Not a listing of all the interstate highways I have driven on, but the ones I have driven the most.
There is a I-90 end sign in Boston, actually. It's right before the MA-145 exit on the soon-to-be MA-1 expressway.
I was thinking the same, after leaving Logan Airport heading towards 1A/US1/I-95
I personally feel a bit upset that Todd didn't see the I-90 end sign in Massachusetts. I've seen it before...
Overall, I'm really happy with how this video turned out, I can't wait to see I-91 and I-93 in Massachusetts, along with I-95 of course
I have seen it on street view too
I think it's currently taken down/covered as part of work on the McClellan Highway and the merge with 1A. I don't remember any of the I-90 termini over the years having an "X miles to Seattle" sign, though Massachusetts does have such signs for US 20 and US 6 (though 20's is incorrect).
Oh man I definitely was reading your mind when showing Downtown Cleveland. I had to watch the tourism video again! “Come and look at both of our buildings!”
Lol. Love those vids
PA actually does something right on I-90! 😮
I like the pilgrim hat for the MA Turnpike sign. The PA Turnpike sign really should be your money flying away, because that’s what it does (even with an EZ Pass)! 💸💸💸
The original sign had an arrow going through the hat. Any symbolism from Mr. Callahan that that motif might have had regarding Yankee power is purely coincidental.
After the arrow-through-the-pilgrim-hat sign was retired, a new logo sign for Masspike had the pilgrim hat at the same angle, with the same colors, without the arrow. The current sign has the pilgrim hat perfectly centered. It looks too "corporate" or "commercial" for my taste. But who has any taste for anything anyway? :)
91 is going to be quite interesting for control cities especially northbound past Springfield MA. You have Northhampton MA white river junction VT then St Johnsbury VT finally Quebec
@rngfootball759 My solution is just Sherbrooke once past Springfield. Nothing in eastern Vermont is really that big. 268 miles on the bottom line of mileage signs is probably going to feel like a long haul (especially by New England standards), but everything else is really small. I'm in a part of the country where the eastbound control out of my hometown is 284 miles, when it really should be 513...
If you love PA, you'll LOVE I-99! (Joke post lol) Jokes aside though I really wonder if they'll ever connect the two, cant wait for next video
The likely reason 290 and 395 aren't the same road is because 290 was built and named, and embedded in local awareness, decades before 395 was even dreamed about. The tail end of the (former) Connecticut Turnpike was intended to aim at Providence, not Worcester. It wasn't til the casinos arrived that traffic began to justify extending the highway northward. (That part of the Turnpike was a VERY lonely road for a long time.)
You should split I-95 by SE, Mid-Atlantic, & NE/NE.
I live in the region and have been patiently waiting for your videos bc all of the interstates around me are higher than 80 lol
There is a welcome to NY sign westbound. I believe it’s a little bit in NY and not on the state line.
I thought about running 890 concurrent with 90/87 and use the Berkshire extension back to 90 past Albany
11:25 Taunton Is A Town In Southeastern Massachusetts Between North Of Fall River, East Of Providence, South Of Boston and West Of Cape Cod And The Near By Interstate Routes We’re Route 24, I-495, & Route 44
Love the reference to the Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video towards the end!
Those always cracked me up
Good review. I've driven the Albany/90 section and the thruway alternative and I actually prefer the thruway because there are fewer exits and better traffic flow.
So the reason why NYSDoT/NYSTA wants long-distance traffic to take I-87 -> Berskhire Connector rather than just staying on I-90 is because I-90 actually goes through Albany whereas I-87 skirts around it. I imagine they want to keep long-distance traffic out of Albany especially because that section of I-87 has a 65 mph speed limit whereas I-90 through Albany has a 55 mph speed limit. (Okay, and maybe just to get an extra dollar or two from each driver).
Tbh, I feel like they should just reroute I-90 onto I-87/Berkshire Connector and the current free section just becomes a 3di.
There is a "Welcome to New York" sign on I-90 west from Massachusetts, but for some reason, they put it after the exit ramp for NY-22. No idea why they do that.
Can't wait for US 90. I live kind of in between US 331 and US 90. I probably should do a $5 super chat about King Lake Rd which links the two west of the interchange at the Tom Thumb in Defuniak Springs.
Thanks! I'd love to have you show my exit, once you get to the I-95 video. Exit 9 (Marsh Rd.) in Delaware!!! I added another $5 for the amazing content!!!
Thanks so much!
@Control City Freak You're very welcome! Just wait until you see the inglorious entity we call DelDOT! There is no signed exit 2 on I-95 (it's the Biden Travel Plaza), all exits are sequential, and I-295 & I-495 are designed to be disasters. The signage is surprisingly good though.
The only part of I-90 I've been on was from Jamestown, NY to Cleveland on our way back from Vermont. Spent the night in Ashtabula, Ohio.
Did you know that in terms of driving distance Billings, MT is roughly equal in distance to Key West, FL as it is to Anchorage, AK? Billings is 2,631 mi from Anchorage, and is 2,637 mi from Key West.
I think it would be cool if at some point in the future you did the Trans-Canada Highway.
@davidburrow5895 Except there is no one Trans-Canada Highway. A spur serves Edmonton, the route breaks into three through Ontario, a spur exists on the north side of the St. Lawrence River past Quebec City, and another spur serves Prince Edward Island.
I’m planning on doing the mainline (through Sudbury and North Bay) for a road trip across Canada this summer. However, I’m cutting out the ends with ferries (Vancouver Island and Newfoundland), limiting the extent to Vancouver-Cape Breton.
My biggest concerns are whether I’m going to need to get a special credit card (I have the Wyndham app on my phone, and reservations require credit cards), and if I need to spend the next four months learning French on the off chance I have a hotel stop in Quebec.
You're my hero, Todd! Hope you can check out my home turf, Exit 20B along I-95 northbound in Maryland (MD-450 Annapolis Rd towards Bladensburg). Happy travels!
Thanks so much! Will deliver on both
To answer a question, that one Framingham sign is there because it's the hub for most of Greater Boston/rural Massachusetts, and all the locals know what it is, with its big shopping malls and such, so that's why the one Framingham sign is there.
I remember Worcester was hardly mentioned along the Mass Pike except for the Worcester exit. Now that it's grown to the second largest city in New England, it's good to see them mentioned more now.
In raw city population, Worcester is the second biggest. However, I think metro population is a better indicator, and under this metric, it’s 5th, with Providence (1.7M, buoyed by New Bedford and its environs), Hartford (1.2M), and just below Bridgeport (970k).
@@tylermarchand2996 Boston's metro has expanded so far out that Worcester, Providence, and Manchester, NH are almost bedroom communities of Boston.
@@tylermarchand2996 also, fifth place is still pretty decent.
In case anybody was wondering where I-990 is in NY, that branches off of the I-290 and ends at Millersport Highway.
Thanks for confirming how frickin dumb the I-790 designation in Utica is. In high school during my trip through there I could not wrap my head around it. Felt like it took 4 loop ramps just to get to Utica from 90 WB.
Also I see all of what you did there when highlighting 90 WB in Downtown Cleveland lol
790 was a two lane road on the south side of the Thruway until 1987 when it was placed on the current freeway alignment on both sides of the Thruway. Even then, you still have to use surface streets to get on 790 from the Thruway.
I think the NY 5/8/12 freeway north out of Utica, which also carries part of 790, came considerably later than the Thruway which is why the Utica exit is so far from that freeway, which actually at Genesee Street which used to carry NY 5/8/12. Which would explain 790's weird design.
Not signing Portsmouth NH on westbound I-90 on northbound I-95 makes sense. If you were in downtown Boston, you would have taken I-93 to get to Portsmouth. If you are at Logan, you would take Mass 1A to I-93 to Portsmouth. I have driven I-93 through the Big Dig. It was surprisingly easy when I was traveling through Boston.
OK, I can't help myself with one more, and I feel like I-97 will need all the help it can get to make it more interesting anyway. My baby daughter's first interstate was I-97, which we entered at its southern endpoint from US-50 on the way back from the hospital. Love you, My-My!
Thanks so much!
It might have been neat to mention I-990 off of I-290 north of Buffalo. 990 is the highest numbered Interstate (which you probably knew).
11:22 MassDOT caught red-handed! Notice the overhead sign reads "exit 106" but the gore sign reads "exit 11A".
But as a lifelong resident of the Bay State, I approve of this video's thumbnail 1000%!
When I go to Cedar Point I usually take Ohio Route 2 from Toledo to Sandusky. That’s a nice drive along the lake for some of that drive.
Never been but I totally want to
While Cleveland is closer you’ll find much better flights into Detroit if you fly. Car rental prices should be about the same and it’s only a little under a 2 hour drive.
The Eastern I-90 is the section I spent the most time on. Me and my family would always travel from Detroit to Boston to meet friends for Thanksgiving and we would take the 401 through Ontario to the New York border in Niagara Falls and then take 190 to 90, and you actually covered the Exit on the Mass Pike we got off on - Exit 127 for Newton, which is a very beautiful suburb of Boston where our friends lived before they moved out of the country unfortunately. I miss them very much. If I ever had the money and if I ever had an opportunity to live in Boston I would definitely pick Newton. It’s an awesome place.
And I believe there actually is an END I-90 sign on Highway 1A, I think you might have missed it. I remember seeing it on the Wikipedia page for the Mass Pike so you look there.
And are you sure there isn’t a ‘Welcome to New York’ sign on the MA-NY border? I remember seeing it a mile or two in the last time I was on I-90 with my folks in that area, in 2010. There’s also a ‘Leaving Massachusetts’ sign as well on Eastbound I-90 as well.
Well, can’t wait for I-91…when you get to it lol. I was actually going to ask you if you were going to do Supercut videos of I-90 Eastbound and Westbound actually. Though will you include the 80/90 concurrency in said Supercuts?
Yeah on the Thruway, they like to say that the road is now the Thruway and then within about a mile, you have the Welcome to New York / Check out the wine trails / etc. signs that are the de facto welcome signs
A thought exercise: What are the most “disrespected” control cities by DOTs? Either medium size cities that get ignored or big cities that aren’t signed enough. A few examples:
Springfield, MO
South Bend
Philadelphia
Bozeman
Richmond
Gainesville
Rochester (MN and NY)
I think South Bend is very much so.
Both Rochesters I like that there.
Weird, I could swear I saw Springfield as a control city along I-44 back in 2015. Now I gotta watch the I-44 video.
@Ndalum07 Cape Coral (FL), North Port (FL), Columbia (MO), and Olympia (WA) are my candidates.
There is an END I-90 sign at Highway 1A, it’s just not on a overhead sign. A few times in the past, I tried to find a I-90 End sign in the Seattle side, could not find one at all so I don’t think there is any in the Seattle terminus.
Most of the two digit interstates either have an END sign at one terminus or have none at all. I find that to be really lame.
I've taken I-90 many times to watch Red Sox games, great experience
Nice!
Why doesn’t 395 continue along 290 and 190 to Leominster, and the rest of 290 be 695?
I do want to thank you showing 90 west sign at 290 west sign and I do see 2 signs everyday because I do live by it
Looks like we differ quite a bit on I-93. I’m fine with Quincy going south, although wouldn’t mind signing Cape Cod. Not a fan of Concord going north though, should be Manchester.
@ethanellis4662 From what I see on Google Maps, my guess is that it is intended for Manchester traffic to use U.S. 3 through Lowell and Nashua, considering I 93 only brushes the eastern edge of Manchester...
@@tylermarchand2996 That may make some sense. Maybe in that case though, sign I-93 north for Lawrence.
It's generally less stressful (and especially at rush hour faster) to just stay on the Thruway instead of take 90 through Albany. I figure that's worth paying the toll.
Agreed, especially if you're already on the Thruway, it's worth the extra $2.50/$3. From the Northway though it's sort of six of one half a dozen of the other.
I often wonder why they don’t sign that section as I-90. The current free I-90 could be renumbered as, say, I-487.
@@DWNY358 politicians in Albany won't let that happen.
The Turnpike Extension in the early 60s (in modern terms, the portion from 95 to 93) was actually a bit of a masterpiece of getting stuff done. The official federal plan was to route 90 into Boston on the north side of the Charles as a freeway (whether 90 would go out to Albany via the MA-2 corridor (Acton/Fitchburg/Athol/Greenfield/North Adams) or follow US-20 out through Marlborough and Worcester and then join the Turnpike in Auburn wasn't decided). Had the Extension not been built, it's doubtful that would have been built: the freeway revolts in Boston started very soon afterwards.
You had three pieces on the chessboard:
* Prudential insurance, which wanted to build the tallest building in North America outside of New York City
* the Boston & Albany railroad (part of the NY Central system), which wanted to reduce its property tax bills
* the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, which wanted to build the Extension
So the agreement that the three came to was that Prudential would buy the B&A's rail yards and rent them to the B&A (Prudential would now be on the hook for the property taxes) and build the skyscraper on a deck over the yards. The rail line from basically where it crosses the Charles would be bought by the Turnpike Authority (making it responsible for property taxes: the Turnpike Authority, at least prior to its being merged into the newly formed MassDOT, paid local property taxes on the highway) and the Authority would grant the B&A and its successors control over running trains, and the Authority would use eminent domain to take the rest of the right of way it needed.
This was controversial: Newton in particular is one of the wealthier large suburbs in America (and relatively even moreso then): think Palo Alto or Scarsdale or Winnetka and you're not far off (I grew up for a bit in Newton Centre: neighbors of mine would have included Sumner Redstone and Robert Kraft). Eventually Prudential said they wouldn't build the skyscraper (which was a key part of the urban renewal vision for Boston) unless the Extension was built, and so the Prudential Tower/Center was built on air rights over the Extension and the railroad (which moved its yards first to Allston (the land for the new yard will be redeveloped as part of Harvard University).
As part of building the Extension the Star Market supermarket in Newtonville was going to have its land taken: rather than fight, the Authority and Star Market agreed to let Star Market build a new supermarket on air rights over the highway.
The Authority (being at some level still private, or at the very least not bound by federal laws about what you can and can't do on an interstate because legally the entirety of I-90 is merely designated I-90: it's not actually legally an interstate...) would develop quite a knack for selling air rights over the highway.
Pretty much anything related to infrastructure in the Boston area is a real estate development play when you get down to it.
Great info, thanks!
There used to be a bizarre on-ramp to I-90 west from the parking garage near the Prudential.
If you come back to Mass I’ll get you tickets for a Sox game! Gotta play Roadrunner by The Modern lovers too when you reach state route 128 / i95 in Dedham or Peabody pronounced (p’biddy)
Thanks! When you get to I 95 in Florida and South Carolina maybe a Ron Jon surf shop billboard in Florida near Cocco Beach and SOBorder ( South of the Border) near South Carolina/ North Carolina border.
Cheers will do! Thanks!
@@ControlCityFreak Also on I-95, in North Carolina between the US 64 exit and US 158 exit, there are billboards that promote the Roanoke Rapids Exits (Exits 171 and 173). Can you show those too?
Also, the exit onto 291 in Springfield has a traffic light at the end of the ramp and 291 begins and ends at that traffic and it becomes a regular surface road.
And lastly, Rochester has grown to the point that it has nearly as many people as Buffalo will likely overtake Buffalo as the state's second largest city in the next census. However Buffalo's metro area is still considerably larger.
Actually, I don’t think the MSA populations are that different. Buffalo is 1.15M (Erie and Niagara), while Rochester is about 1.05M (Monroe, Ontario, Wayne, Genesee, Orleans and Yates).
@@tylermarchand2996 Rochester's is way more spread out than Buffalo's and contains a lot of rural areas surrounding the population centers of the outer counties. Seneca County alone is about 30-40 miles from Rochester.
Buffalo borders the towns of Tonawanda, Amherst, and Cheektowaga, all of which have populations greater than or almost greater than Syracuse. Also, Cattaraugus County was part of Buffalo's metro area but was removed for the 2020 census.
The stadium where the Guardians play is now called Progressive Field.
Pennsylvania did an outstanding job on their control cities on I-90!! Interstate 90 spends the least amount of time in PA after Idaho.
What else is there to sign? PA can't possibly mess up on I-90
Did you know that on the NY Thruway (I-90 Section): Westbound Traffic apparently gets 10 Service Plazas while Eastbound Traffic only gets 9. I don't know why that is, but it seems a bit odd...
It likely evens out with the I-87 stretch.
Also, there used to be one on each side along the Berkshire Connector but they were removed by the 80's.
Kansas turnpike does the same, 17 minutes further and $7.00 cash or $4.75 with KTAG they try and send you from Emporia to Topeka heading ultimately to end just West of Kansas City Kansas, when I-35 is untolled between Emporia and Kansas City... all for the revenue though I-70 out west has seen some recent upgrades, surprisingly just as the soccer team, racetrack, casino and outlet Mecca were opened (every Krispy Kreme in Kansas City metro area closed except this one, now two others opened and this closed
For the Thruway New York City refers to the Bronx Westchester County border. For I-90 East of Syracuse this can also be Utica Albany NYC for milage signs East of Utica Exit 31 milage sign can be Albany Boston NYC seen at 7:43. The Thruway Distance signs calculates Boston Distance via Exit 21A I-90 East Massachusetts Turnpike Boston.
8:45 those signs there are actually helpful for a driver who has to drive twin 48-53ft trailers from Boston,MA to the NY Pennsylvania Border Exit 61 Thruway or Canadian Border if allowed to cross. Recent For it's that the New York State Department of Transportation doesn't allow twin 48-53ft trailers on their section of I-90 in Albany.
If you get to I-287
Northbound/Eastbound
Morristown/Mahwah
Tappan Zee Bridge
White Plains
New Haven CT
Southbound/Westbound
White Plains/Tappan Zee Bridge
Morristown
Somerville/New Brunswick Exits 8-10
Staten Island.
20:52
Explanation is this you have NFL Pittsburgh Steelers and Buffalo Bills NHL Sabers Penguins because eastern Pennsylvania tends to support the Philadelphia teams western part of Pennsylvania Pittsburgh where Erie is
Another awesome video. Also, I’d give you $10 for the sticker. $5 for the sticker and another $5 just to hear you yell about Limon
Thanks!
Quincy MA has a population of over 100,000. Also if you’re coming from the west you wouldn’t drive into Boston to get to Providence. From 90 you’d either take 146 south, 495 to 95, or 95.
Before the exit for MA 146 was constructed in 1990, MA 122, the next exit east of 146, was signed (secondarily) for Providence, even if it took a while to get there, for example, via Uxbridge MA and Woonsocket RI.
I've been eagerly awaiting the part I'm familiar with (from Syracuse to Cleveland). I was surprised that you actually didn't have a fit about PA signage, although I find the interchanges in Erie to be quite odd signing 2 different roads at a time. There is a PA welcome sign going westbound, but I think it is usually obstructed by trees, (and may be on the other side of the highway IIRC?). You are also quite close to the lake in PA it is usually quite windy all the time for that stretch, dicy if you drive a truck or large RV.
Pictures don't tell the story but the NY thruway west of Syracuse used to be just terrible! Horribly maintained, only finally fixed now after the covid break and when they got rid of the toll booths.
There is a section just west of Buffalo that goes through a First Nation's reservation that used to be so bad the speed limit was 45MPH and was dangerous! The reservation was very vocal of their disdain for NY government and NY cut their state funding for road work because the reservation would use it for other things instead.
If not going to downtown Cleveland by all means take 271 and not that wild bend in Cleveland. I have a friend in Euclid, good times.
@brianball720 Is the road near Syracuse torn up because of truck chains? My understanding is that Syracuse is the snowiest city in America…
@Tyler Marchand no just crappy lack of maintenance, for years it was the worst road in the area and you were paying for it! I81 was fine...
Bits and pieces of I-90
Been to Boston, yet to visit Fenway Park
Looking forward a few weeks - will I-94 be a two-part video?
Yes
@davidfreesefan23 There's no way it isn't 2 parts. It is longer than all but two of the odd primaries!
Billings to Tomah and Madison to Detroit, I imagine.
@@LeviRamsey Or it could be one for eastbound and one for westbound.
visited boston last month - used the mass tpke - the underground section of boston felt so unorganized
I 90 early efforts. Post Pennsylvania Turnpike extensions to Interstate Highway signing act 1956. Mostly early to mid 50s States in the Mid West were coming up with idea's for a Toll roads and expressways for the region. Early example The Pennsylvania Turnpike would be extended into Ohio and New Jersey . The New Jersey Turnpike, Massachusetts Turnpike, New York Thruway ,Indiana Toll road, Chicago skyway , Ohio Turnpike ext. Most these would be be built from the Mid 50s to late 50s.
I 90 New York State History. With the New York Thruway making up the most mileage of I 90. The New York Thruway completed in 1957. With the New York starting in the New York City Area the lowest sequenceal numbers start there and Exit 61 near Ripley New York near the pa state line. Albany finished 1977 east of Albany.
Fun fact. Not only does the Thruway try to get you to stay on their roadways to Boston so you can keep paying tolls, you also pay an extra toll for crossing the Hudson.
Is there a reason why the Castleton Bridge collects tolls BOTH directions? Every other Hudson River crossing downstream of it is only tolled eastbound. Even the Tappan Zee Bridge (I learned in the I 87 video that people REALLY hate the other name) only collects entering Westchester County…
@@tylermarchand2996 it's likely a Thruway thing. And according to Wikipedia, it's only an extra 60 cents to cross in each direction. Also, there were never any toll booths on either side of the bridge so the extra cost would be paid depending what exit you got off at when the ticket would be surrendered.
@@tylermarchand2996 also, tolls on the Tappan Zee were collected in both directions. That changed in 1970 with the westbound tolls being eliminated and the eastbound tolls doubling in price.
@@tylermarchand2996 fun fact, the Castleton Bridge may be the only toll bridge over the Hudson tolled in both directions but it's not the only bridge tolled in both directions on the entire Thruway system. The Grand Island bridges along 190 between Buffalo and Niagara Falls are tolled in both directions. 190 is also part of the Thruway system up to Niagara Falls and was tolled until the late 2000's.
Starting at 4:45, here are the I-90's Exits for New York State (And Yes, I've included the Thruway's Plazas):
NY Thruway (Mile)/Exit Number (In I-90 miles)
Mile 494/Exit 1- Shortman Rd
Mile 485/Exit 11- NY 394
Mile 467/Exit 28- NY 60
Mile 455/Exit 41- NY 5/US 20
NY Thruway Plaza 1
Mile 444/Exit 51- Eden Evans Center Rd
Mile 436/Exit 60- NY 75
Mile 432/Exit 64- NY 179
*Entering The Buffalo Suburbs- Break in Toll Portion of NY Thruway*
Mile 429/Exit 67- US 219 S
Mile 427/Exit 68- NY 400
Mile 426/Exit 70- I-190
Mile 424/Exit 71- William St
Mile 423/Exit 73- Walden Ave
Mile 421/Exit 74- NY 33
*EB Exit Only* Mile 420.9/Exit 75- Cleveland Dr *WB Merge*
Mile 420.3/Exit 76- I-290
*NY Thruway becomes Toll Again- Leaving Buffalo Suburbs*
Mile 417/Exit 79- NY 78
A 2nd Plaza for WB Traffic
Mile 401/Exit 94- NY 77
A 2nd Plaza for EB Traffic
*I-90 Reaches 100 Miles*
Mile 390/Exit 106- NY 98
Mile 378/Exit 117- I-490/NY 19
A 3rd Plaza for WB Traffic at NY Thruway Mile 375
A 3rd Plaza for EB Traffic at NY Thruway Mile 365
Mile 362/Exit 134- I-390
Mile 350/Exit 145- I-490
A 4th Plaza for WB Traffic
Mile 347/Exit 149- NY 332
Mile 340/Exit 156- NY 21
A 4th Plaza for EB Traffic
Mile 327/Exit 169- NY 318/NY 14
A 5th Plaza for WB Traffic
Mile 320/Exit 175- NY 414
Mile 304/Exit 192- NY 34
*I-90 reaches 200 miles*
A 6th Plaza for WB Traffic (What's the Deal with WB Traffic Plazas?)
Mile 289/Exit 206- I-690/NY 690 to Syracuse
Mile 285/Exit 210- County Route 57
Mile 283/Exit 212- County Route 148
Mile 282/Exit 213- I-81
Finally a 5th Plaza for EB Traffic!
Mile 278/Exit 217- NY 635/NY 298
Mile 276/Exit 219- I-481
A 7th Plaza for WB Traffic
Mile 261/Exit 234- NY 13
Mile 252/Exit 243- NY 365
Plaza 6 for EB Traffic
Mile 243/Exit 252- NY 233
*Entering Utica*
Mile 232/Exit 263- NY 8/NY 12/NY 49/NY 5/I-790
*Leaving Utica*
An 8th Plaza for WB Traffic
Mile 219/Exit 276- NY 28 to Cooperstown
Mile 210/Exit 285- NY 169
A 7th Plaza for EB Traffic while WB gets a 9th One
*I-90 reaches 300 Miles*
Mile 194/Exit 301- NY 10/NY 5S
Mile 182/Exit 314- NY 920P
Mile 173/Exit 322- NY 30
An 8th Plaza for EB Traffic while WB gets a 10th One
Mile 162/Exit 333- I-890/NY 890
Mile 158/Exit 337- I-88
Mile 153/Exit 342- I-890/NY 7/NY 146
A 9th EB Plaza
Mile 148/Exit 348A- I-87
(Transition from NY Thruway to A Normal Freeway)
Mile 0.8/Exit 348B- US 20
Mile 0.8/Exit 348C- Washington Ave
Mile 1/Exit 350A- Campus Access Rd
Mile 2/Exit 350B- NY 85 W
Mile 3/Exit 351- Everett Rd Extension
Mile 4/Exit 352- Corporate Woods Blvd
Mile 5/Exit 353- US 9
Mile 6/Exit 354- I-787
*EB Exit Only* Mile 6.9/Exit 355- Washington Ave *WB Merge*
Mile 7/Exit 356- NY 43
Mile 9/Exit 357- US 4
Mile 10/Exit 361- Miller Rd
Mile 14/Exit 362- US 20
Mile 19/Exit 367- US 9
(Transition from Normal Freeway to Berkshire Connector)
Mile 0/Exit 368- NY 912M to I-87
Mile 15/Exit 377- Taconic State Pkwy Hwy
Mile 23/Exit 385- NY 22
*Massachusetts Border*
There you have it, all 385 miles of I-90 in New York. Again, I don't why going westbound on the Thruway you get 10 Plazas to stop at, but it is what it is...
I would personally reroute 90 with 87 until the Berkshire Extension and then have the free portion be either 487, 687 or extend 88.
To some extent i agree that NYS is trying to get tolls out of people by directing them to the thruway at Albany rather than using I90. However, as a trucker I can say that the thruway is much safer and less chaotic than I90 through Albany and I almost always take that route despite the tolls. Also, I alerted PENNDOT Region 1 to this video (I'm from erie) and they got me in touch with their social media person and they may put it on their website.
Oh awesome!
will you ever do i-435? if so that would be awesome!!
KC one? Definitely
@@ControlCityFreak I think that's the only I-435.
@@mxderate Google search and Wikipedia indicates it's the only one.
I know you covered this before but Jamestown is literally the only thing on 86 for hundreds of miles from Erie
Fun fact: I 77 and I 71 are both technically concurrent with I 90 up to Ohio 2, despite signs saying it ends at I 90
I 271 also does this as it is concurrent up to OH 2, they should sign them concurrently and make a Cleveland beltway
Oh interesting, never knew that
@@ControlCityFreak 😃
@@ControlCityFreak very excited for us 41 southern btw
8:45 Suuuper fishy. Most tolls between exits are like $0.25-$0.40 (even by plate). Taking the signed route to the Mass Pike from the Thruway will bring you to the Berkshire Connector, at the end of which is a $2.35 toll in-state E-ZPass or $3.05 by plate. As someone else already mentioned though, if you're on the Thruway staying on and paying that toll is definitely less of headache. Loved your comment about Corning Tower 😂 far too big for an Albany building but they gotta house the state workers somehow. Before it was named after the Albany Mayor in the early 80s the geniuses around here called it "Tower Building"
I'm looking forward to the i99 video it's very interesting how it came to be
You are correct about 395 and 290. It is the same road. Go figure!
I-790 running along NYSTW. Space constraints.
cant wait for I-91
Gonna be cool!
I 90 Pennsylvania history. Originally proposed as the Northwest Turnpike along with Erie to Cranberry Township extension of the Pennsylvania Turnpike later I 79. Changed to I 90 after the Eisenhower Interstate act in 1956. Completed i October 28 1960. In Erie county we sign properly. Jamestown has close ties to Erie county. Lucille Ball with the house statue and comedy museum big tourist draw.
I guess New York State really misses the 90's.
😁
Lol
395 was added to the system well after 290 (which was original in the system and intended to be a free bypass of the Turnpike to Waltham, though the portion inside of 495 was never built (which accounts for the configuration of the 290/495 interchange, which is basically the main route out of Maine and most of New Hampshire to 95% or thereabouts of the rest of the US population). IMO, 84 should have been concurrent with 90 and then routed over 290 and the northern portion of 495 to end at 95 just shy of New Hampshire. Alternatively, if we built a freeway (probably a toll road in practice) from 190 in Leominster (would pay money to hear you pronounce that control city :) ) to Manchester NH, we could renumber 395/290/190/NH-101 as I-695: a grand bypass of Boston and Providence.
I tried to help Todd out earlier. Let's see if he is rehearsing for the big moment! And in the comments for the I-84 eastern video, I tried to help out with places along I-91. I-93 and I-95. The good news is that Webster Lake is along I-395. If he does a video for I-395 / I-290, I'll bet that he'll look to the right after crossing the CT/MA border, make one attempt to mispronounce the FULL name of the lake (Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg) and then say, "aw, skip it!" Any bets on how far he'll get in the name?? Better yet, he'll be agog with all 15 G's.
Can’t Wait for I-95