I have watched around 20 hours of analyses on Arshad Sharif’s murder and this is by far the most intelligent and balanced. Especially loved the analysis that the battle field for civilian supremacy / constitutionalism has shifted to Punjab and will be interesting to watch how that unravels.
Power flows from the barrel of a gun...unless checked by other institutions of justice strong enough to do so. In Pakistan, all other institutions are subservient.
Big ups on shedding light on some of the hardships faced by Sindhi, balochi, Pashtun journalists and those who may not be as prominent as Arshad Sharif Shaheed. Love the episode bro keep it up 👍🏽
These podcasts are great Shezhad you are a good conversationalist and an great interviewer. Some things that might enrich your content even further is having episodes where you discuss theory and tackle the work of prominent leftist figures through out history and living now. Episodes on topics like utilitarianism, fascism, dialectical materialism would be awesome. Uzair is always a good guest. Hope you keep this podcast going
The overall feeling I got was that both Uzair and Shehzad are skeptics and think this is purely a power hungry struggle and that people who have been motivated by PTI to fight for civilian supremacy are just drinking the kool aid, which to be honest is a really depressing outlook. I think the only reason Imran has the people’s support and Nawaz didn’t when they were both in the same situation was that Imran could be seen struggling to improve people’s lives (even with the mistakes they were making) there was effort, there was regular communication directly with the public people felt engaged as citizens, for Nawaz his rallying call was its unfair the army allowed the courts to implement justice. Why should this sentiment be belittled as drinking the kool aid ?
i was desperately waiting for your take on what's happening in last few days, as i'm surrounded by pro PTI, woh sirf subha shaam imran imran ki vird kar rehy hotay hain, as if he is the only solution to all their problems.
@14:05 the speaker ascribed to DGI something to the effect of "we have closed ranks and there is no constitutional way for you to win a war" i.e. meaning IK wanting to change the government. Don't think DGI inferred that, he was saying we won't support anything "unconstitutional" to get another government into power including Khan sahib's and that is what the next set of military leaders have decided on. Political narratives of each political party aside, if the establishment stays aligned on this promise to stay out, this could be a good thing for Pakistan regardless of the circus between PTI-PDM.
The power of the pakistani intelligentia can be compared to the power US CIA had during the height of the cold war. In the US during the late 50s and early 60s, the so called threat of communism enabled the military to become so big and powerful that they simply became untouchable. They influenced all levels of government and includenced the public discourse. JFK spoke against it and paid the ultimate price. In Pakistan, the so called Kashmir freedom movement is that catalyst that made the Army bigger than the actual threat. In my opinion, the significant power that Army asserts in all walks of Pakistani life can not removed unless Pakistan as a nation gives up the mirage of kashmir struggle. The LOC should be considered as a defacto border and effort should be made to normalise relations with India.
@The Pakistan Experience Always something to learn Shahzad bhai whenever I listen to your podcasts great job, keep it up. Just one thing I wanted to say, @27:07 the snippet of Arshad's tweet is fake. Yes he said pretty nasty things about many people and victims at many times, May Allah have mercy on his soul Ameen, but this tweet seemed photoshoped for several reason hence I checked and turned out to be fake. No such tweet on the mentioned date exists, in fact no tweet from his account with the word پارسل appeared in the search results. Apart from that, once again a very good episode.
@@ThePakistanExperience Twitter advance search feature. It let’s you use attributes like key words, Parcel ( I searched it in Urdu of course) in this case, exact handle you want to search a tweet coming from, the date and much more. Result didn’t show a single tweet from his handle with word parcel. In fact he didn’t tweet anything between Sep 14-15 2018 as the date stamp on the snippet shows that’s when he tweeted about Kulsum Nawaz, checked that as well to be sure. If the tweet was later deleted by Arshad can’t say واللہُ اعلمُ but it isn’t there on his profile.
I never believed in the black vigo jokes before this. Till 10k tweets there were no news on TV. Geo gave the news before Ary and even then Ary said k hadsa hua hai. How Ary was off air till he was fired, how he had to run away and how he was murdered. They didn't keep it subtle, they gave a clear cut message k there is no turning back.
Your podcast are a good source of information. I wanted to ask how should one look for information not being biased, our media so biased that we don't know who is talking the truth and who is not. How can we differentiate between the right and wrong, the truth and false??? What would that source be?
I watched that, but the question (Soltion to fake news) was different. What I am asking about is "the right source" of information, where can we get that information from or how can we filter right information.
I am still confused. If it’s not establishment, and i get that, and if it’s not the political parties, then who are the culprits? I don’t get it! Who registered those FIRs? People are still being threatened and ISPR says there was no threat to Arshad Sharif. Can someone please please clarify or explain? I would really appreciate, thanks! - Great podcast btw❤
Aap itne despondency or fear leke har roz kam kaise karte ho bhai jaan? Hindustan mey hum to news dekhnai chodd diye after media usurpation by the govt. Salam hay aapko.
Dear PkExperience host, being new to your channel and being someone who has low insight with regards to our past, politics, news and events of Pakistan, I am generally not able to know about your esteemed guests just reading their name in the title unless I start watching the video. Would really appreciate if you mention could role / job of your guest e.g. Sr. Journalist, Foreign policy expert, historian etc along with their name in the title of the video and/or caption just so that I and many viewers could realize how important the video is even before opening it, and to ensure that it may not be left unwatched.
Rao Anwar kay ilawah bhi extra judicial killer police officials rahay pak main why he is so famous? Rana Maqbool was known for more gruesome extra judicial than rao.
wonderful analysis. One thing that i don't agree with you guys is that you seem to have come to this conclusion that establishment did it. There are so many open ends and the incidence happened on a foreign land. The basic question of who could benefit and who is at disadvantage from the incident. There is an argument that CTD (counter terrorism departments) don't issue threat alerts on their own but this time the KPK CTD did it. Reportedly the officer authorizing the threat alert was unwilling to issue it, owning to lack of evidence but he was forced to issue.
uzair analysis is excellent , and my question is don't you thnk they intentionally did this audio leaked, just to damage the long march, jis trha Vadawa ne play kiya , same did Ali ghandapur
While listening to this podcast, i just found out there might be a way to prove that there is no logical way to explain the creation of human. And how we thought we are humans because we think logically but what if we are humans because we have the capability of being ILLOGICAL. An extension of that is, how can an illogical thought be developed? Also what if the part developing the illogical thought is actually influencing the logical thought in a way that creates a need within a need. For example, religion can create existantial crisis aswell as solve existantial crisis, what is the binary combination that leads to this thought?Just like an irrational number is something which has an r for every p,q such that p/q + r. So for every r there is another r so u can not have a logic where u can create an irrational number. Or mathematically there is no root. Its always an approximation. Shit im daydreaming while commenting
Creation is also by chance. It is the survival brain that is the strongest not logical. The logical part of the brain is the weakest. Religion, Sates, etc are an emotional entity which is also more powerful than logical or rational. Communism or arthasatra is based on logical supremacy. Triune brain theory.
It'd be premature even naive to rule out Iqbal, even if faiz & co are using him, his involvement is obvious. Either way, Pakistan was, is & will remain a snake's pit for the foreseeable
Uzair is far. You better not become that statistic, Shehzad. You might be from the other side of the border, and I might have told you to be the voice of sanity, but who would I give my cookies to??? Careful. Don’t offend anyone, there’s MUCH more to do. If some day we are to have good relations, we will need young blood like you, son.
Meray ghar main abhi bhi log hain jo hamid mir ki goli ko fake kehtay hain. Meray zehn main bhi aya k ho sakta hai kisi dushman nain marwaya ho. But then it is not a one time incident. Yeh to norm hai. PDM parties k khilaaf to saalon sai bol raha tha. In k khilaf to abhi hua tha.
@@ThePakistanExperience atleast journalists know k kya sach hai kya nahi, they should unite. Agar wo AS jesay banday ko marwa saktay hain to wo kisi ko bhi marwa saktay hain. There are always some pick-me people jo un ka raag alaptay hain thinking k hmaray sath kabhi aisa nahi hoga
Shehzad please issue a correction. That tweet from arshad sharif for kulsoom nawaz is made up and fake. He only released well wishes and good graceful messages on kulsoom’s demise. Please correct it in the next video. You can look up the information yourself.
Dear Bro. I believe it’s not right to share fake tweet. Even the fonts etc looks shady. I hope you will review it. Good luck with your podcasts. Have a good day @@ThePakistanExperience
I have watched around 20 hours of analyses on Arshad Sharif’s murder and this is by far the most intelligent and balanced. Especially loved the analysis that the battle field for civilian supremacy / constitutionalism has shifted to Punjab and will be interesting to watch how that unravels.
Extremely happy to see this gem again👏❤️ Uzair Younas
"Pakistan ka nazuk mor roundabout ban gaya hai" - great line!
Power flows from the barrel of a gun...unless checked by other institutions of justice strong enough to do so. In Pakistan, all other institutions are subservient.
Greatly summed up and unbiased. A treat to watch
Big ups on shedding light on some of the hardships faced by Sindhi, balochi, Pashtun journalists and those who may not be as prominent as Arshad Sharif Shaheed. Love the episode bro keep it up 👍🏽
Uzair hit the nail with Cartel Analogy😍
@@ThePakistanExperience
“Don’t get high on your own supply”
uzair has a very sound, unbiased and balanced political understanding of the current incidence. BRAVO!!!
Always a fun and insightful discussion with Uzair Younas.
Very interesting debate on burning issues with Uzair younus
These podcasts are great Shezhad you are a good conversationalist and an great interviewer. Some things that might enrich your content even further is having episodes where you discuss theory and tackle the work of prominent leftist figures through out history and living now. Episodes on topics like utilitarianism, fascism, dialectical materialism would be awesome. Uzair is always a good guest. Hope you keep this podcast going
Thank you, Shahzad, for inviting "Uzair the Great".
Good conversation. I would recommend investing in good locks and security sector afterwards. Need more podcasts from you
Excellent presentation
The overall feeling I got was that both Uzair and Shehzad are skeptics and think this is purely a power hungry struggle and that people who have been motivated by PTI to fight for civilian supremacy are just drinking the kool aid, which to be honest is a really depressing outlook. I think the only reason Imran has the people’s support and Nawaz didn’t when they were both in the same situation was that Imran could be seen struggling to improve people’s lives (even with the mistakes they were making) there was effort, there was regular communication directly with the public people felt engaged as citizens, for Nawaz his rallying call was its unfair the army allowed the courts to implement justice. Why should this sentiment be belittled as drinking the kool aid ?
I am 1st to comment.... Good to hear from you guys as Pak Media not trust worthy anymore.
Khush rhe shehzade
Uff Uzair and his meticulously crafted views (backed by stats and relevant premises) are just ♥
This was a much needed episode this week to calm my very very frayed nerves.
PPP leadership has shown maturity always. Give credit where it's due.
Uzair Younus, Encyclopedia 😁
Love to see you both,
Just 40 minutes??? Can we have uzair livestream??? Like 24/7
We need Pakistan Experience Merch : Allah ka karam hai. Biryani Garam hai. on the front
What makes me mad why TPE has so less subscribers whereas shit talking RUclipsrs rake millions of subscribers.
Subcontinent people hate rationality and logic, they are too emotional and suffers from an identity crisis.
What's the name of the book he mentioned?
Also it’s unfortunate and a reflection of true Pakistaniyat that only the positive comments have been replied to or addressed in the comments section.
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i was desperately waiting for your take on what's happening in last few days, as i'm surrounded by pro PTI, woh sirf subha shaam imran imran ki vird kar rehy hotay hain, as if he is the only solution to all their problems.
Bro you shared doctored tweet of Arshad Sharef regarding Kulsom Nawaz. Hopefully you will delete this or issue clarification. JazakALlah
@14:05 the speaker ascribed to DGI something to the effect of "we have closed ranks and there is no constitutional way for you to win a war" i.e. meaning IK wanting to change the government. Don't think DGI inferred that, he was saying we won't support anything "unconstitutional" to get another government into power including Khan sahib's and that is what the next set of military leaders have decided on. Political narratives of each political party aside, if the establishment stays aligned on this promise to stay out, this could be a good thing for Pakistan regardless of the circus between PTI-PDM.
The power of the pakistani intelligentia can be compared to the power US CIA had during the height of the cold war. In the US during the late 50s and early 60s, the so called threat of communism enabled the military to become so big and powerful that they simply became untouchable. They influenced all levels of government and includenced the public discourse. JFK spoke against it and paid the ultimate price.
In Pakistan, the so called Kashmir freedom movement is that catalyst that made the Army bigger than the actual threat. In my opinion, the significant power that Army asserts in all walks of Pakistani life can not removed unless Pakistan as a nation gives up the mirage of kashmir struggle. The LOC should be considered as a defacto border and effort should be made to normalise relations with India.
Not gonna happen, Pak Army will not give up reason for its own existence.
It was a compliment lol…. !!!!
@The Pakistan Experience Always something to learn Shahzad bhai whenever I listen to your podcasts great job, keep it up. Just one thing I wanted to say, @27:07 the snippet of Arshad's tweet is fake. Yes he said pretty nasty things about many people and victims at many times, May Allah have mercy on his soul Ameen, but this tweet seemed photoshoped for several reason hence I checked and turned out to be fake. No such tweet on the mentioned date exists, in fact no tweet from his account with the word پارسل appeared in the search results. Apart from that, once again a very good episode.
@@ThePakistanExperience Twitter advance search feature. It let’s you use attributes like key words, Parcel ( I searched it in Urdu of course) in this case, exact handle you want to search a tweet coming from, the date and much more. Result didn’t show a single tweet from his handle with word parcel. In fact he didn’t tweet anything between Sep 14-15 2018 as the date stamp on the snippet shows that’s when he tweeted about Kulsum Nawaz, checked that as well to be sure. If the tweet was later deleted by Arshad can’t say واللہُ اعلمُ but it isn’t there on his profile.
On what basis you people hide established from fears of reactiion
Uzair yonus ❤️
I never believed in the black vigo jokes before this. Till 10k tweets there were no news on TV. Geo gave the news before Ary and even then Ary said k hadsa hua hai. How Ary was off air till he was fired, how he had to run away and how he was murdered. They didn't keep it subtle, they gave a clear cut message k there is no turning back.
most punjabis never believed the black vigo stuff while it's been an ordinary truth in rest of the three provinces for decades.
The tweet of Arshad sharif shaheed is doctored, it is photoshoped. Did you do it intentionally??
Uzair u r brilliant
Was the constitution ever relevant in Pakistan?
Your podcast are a good source of information.
I wanted to ask how should one look for information not being biased, our media so biased that we don't know who is talking the truth and who is not.
How can we differentiate between the right and wrong, the truth and false???
What would that source be?
Okay
I watched that, but the question (Soltion to fake news) was different.
What I am asking about is "the right source" of information, where can we get that information from or how can we filter right information.
@@ThePakistanExperience chalain, i will be looking forward to it then, kindly do ask this question.
Because of this we all are unaware of the truth.
Akhri audio kisi ne ni suni ?
I am still confused. If it’s not establishment, and i get that, and if it’s not the political parties, then who are the culprits? I don’t get it! Who registered those FIRs? People are still being threatened and ISPR says there was no threat to Arshad Sharif. Can someone please please clarify or explain? I would really appreciate, thanks! - Great podcast btw❤
Aap itne despondency or fear leke har roz kam kaise karte ho bhai jaan? Hindustan mey hum to news dekhnai chodd diye after media usurpation by the govt. Salam hay aapko.
That factory is faltering.
The tweet you shared about Arshad sharif using parcel word for Kulsoom Nawaz is edited and photoshopped.
Exactly. That’s what it looks like.
They can't hide from Allah subhanahuwatala, In Sha Allah, whoever killed him will suffer greatly in this life and hereafter!!!
sir i dont believe IK is a right leader to lead such a "revolution", he is too opportunistic.
Dear PkExperience host, being new to your channel and being someone who has low insight with regards to our past, politics, news and events of Pakistan, I am generally not able to know about your esteemed guests just reading their name in the title unless I start watching the video. Would really appreciate if you mention could role / job of your guest e.g. Sr. Journalist, Foreign policy expert, historian etc along with their name in the title of the video and/or caption just so that I and many viewers could realize how important the video is even before opening it, and to ensure that it may not be left unwatched.
Rao Anwar kay ilawah bhi extra judicial killer police officials rahay pak main why he is so famous? Rana Maqbool was known for more gruesome extra judicial than rao.
it is sure ethnic. Punjabis are " white male privileged " of Pakistan.
Bahaut Ala Shehzad Bhai
It was a compliment to tait
Yas 💝
wonderful analysis. One thing that i don't agree with you guys is that you seem to have come to this conclusion that establishment did it. There are so many open ends and the incidence happened on a foreign land. The basic question of who could benefit and who is at disadvantage from the incident. There is an argument that CTD (counter terrorism departments) don't issue threat alerts on their own but this time the KPK CTD did it. Reportedly the officer authorizing the threat alert was unwilling to issue it, owning to lack of evidence but he was forced to issue.
uzair analysis is excellent ,
and my question is don't you thnk they intentionally did this audio leaked, just to damage the long march, jis trha Vadawa ne play kiya , same did Ali ghandapur
Too bad youthias was jumping up and down when these clowns were joining PTI in droves back in 2018
Why does ik not join hands NS on one single point of civilian supremacy ....
API call working just fine
Application programming interface bro . I was trying to post as 1st commenter but didn’t work as expected
What will happen to Pakistan in battle of the egos that's my only concern.
Pakistan will always be there, but the experimentation will continue.
It seems more and more journalists are running now. Not to Kenya but definitely getting out of Pakistan.
Arshad's tweet about mariyam's mother that u used. That isn't "real tweet"
The tweet you showed is so blatantly doctored that I am amazed that someone like u who is on twitter during his sleep also can’t see through it
@@ThePakistanExperience the font with which the tweet is written is not available on twitter
While listening to this podcast, i just found out there might be a way to prove that there is no logical way to explain the creation of human. And how we thought we are humans because we think logically but what if we are humans because we have the capability of being ILLOGICAL. An extension of that is, how can an illogical thought be developed? Also what if the part developing the illogical thought is actually influencing the logical thought in a way that creates a need within a need. For example, religion can create existantial crisis aswell as solve existantial crisis, what is the binary combination that leads to this thought?Just like an irrational number is something which has an r for every p,q such that p/q + r. So for every r there is another r so u can not have a logic where u can create an irrational number. Or mathematically there is no root. Its always an approximation. Shit im daydreaming while commenting
Creation is also by chance. It is the survival brain that is the strongest not logical. The logical part of the brain is the weakest. Religion, Sates, etc are an emotional entity which is also more powerful than logical or rational. Communism or arthasatra is based on logical supremacy. Triune brain theory.
@@vinamrasinghai2339 wow, gonna read on that!
It'd be premature even naive to rule out Iqbal, even if faiz & co are using him, his involvement is obvious. Either way, Pakistan was, is & will remain a snake's pit for the foreseeable
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1 timebad audio next timE bad video what’s going on bro..?
Uzair is far. You better not become that statistic, Shehzad. You might be from the other side of the border, and I might have told you to be the voice of sanity, but who would I give my cookies to??? Careful. Don’t offend anyone, there’s MUCH more to do. If some day we are to have good relations, we will need young blood like you, son.
Meray ghar main abhi bhi log hain jo hamid mir ki goli ko fake kehtay hain. Meray zehn main bhi aya k ho sakta hai kisi dushman nain marwaya ho. But then it is not a one time incident. Yeh to norm hai. PDM parties k khilaaf to saalon sai bol raha tha. In k khilaf to abhi hua tha.
@@ThePakistanExperience atleast journalists know k kya sach hai kya nahi, they should unite. Agar wo AS jesay banday ko marwa saktay hain to wo kisi ko bhi marwa saktay hain. There are always some pick-me people jo un ka raag alaptay hain thinking k hmaray sath kabhi aisa nahi hoga
@@anambutt8127 as long as there are pick me people in politics and journalism the status quo shall live on
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Yeah Uzair resembles Tate, but Uzair has wisdom and brains.
Tate is a smart person too
He probably lacks honesty,but doesn't sound a stupid person
27:11 that's not Arshid Sharif officially Tweet. Kia satahai guftgu kr rhe ho.
Your aspect ratio isn't correct
@@ThePakistanExperience I think he is talking about aspect ratio of 2 windows side by side. It looks narrow.
Shehzad please issue a correction. That tweet from arshad sharif for kulsoom nawaz is made up and fake. He only released well wishes and good graceful messages on kulsoom’s demise. Please correct it in the next video. You can look up the information yourself.
@@ThePakistanExperience Can you link the tweet then? Because the alignment of the tweet is not right.
Dear Bro. I believe it’s not right to share fake tweet. Even the fonts etc looks shady. I hope you will review it. Good luck with your podcasts. Have a good day @@ThePakistanExperience