Great video! I just got my 3CS .. I also have a 718 GT4, buckets and manual. Porsche buckets are more comfortable to me because of the lateral thigh pressure but I’m getting used to it. The 3CS came out of nowhere, wasn’t on my radar and I randomly came across an unclaimed allocation so I jumped at it. I was very pleasantly surprised when I drove it. I had a couple F80s and liked them, never drove a G80 so I didn’t really know what to expect with this car but 400miles in and it’s a real joy. Your thoughts echo what I’ve felt to be true.
Thanks for your comments, we come from the same GT4/RS reference and it really is a surprisingly good car especially for the price compared to Porsches. Glad you’re enjoying it!
I currently have the m but have had gt4. Both are rockets and handle well but the m3 is probably faster while the Porsche was more planted (which is saying something compared to the phenomenal handling of the m3). I loved the instant throttle feedback from a NA Porsche though. The m3 takes a split second to respond and isn’t as “fun” I guess is the word. Either way, enjoy those beasts my friend
"we didn't go over 5500 rpm once, because of break in" pause.... "except to red line couple of times by accident" Says every BMW owner. ;) 1st time seeing you videos, this was a great review!
I turned off the digital sound fakery with BimmerCode on my G80 comp. It sounds fantastic, valves still open and close and you do get some burbles in sport+
Awesome review! Really well put together technical analysis, and honest feedback from dudes who have experience with more high end cars! Subbed! G80 Comp X owner here. Do you think they will release mods for us which will address the steering feel?
Thanks a lot! I think your best bet is to upgrade to the M sport suspension if you haven’t already and get a more aggressive alignment setup. That will address some of the mechanical side of things. Unfortunately, I think there’s a fair amount of electronic steering tuning they’ve done which I wouldn’t think they would release but maybe?
I think I read the torque curve has been smoothed out compared to the CP variant for higher speeds for track. The CP is little more energetic for more road fun. My ‘18 F80CP seems to like comfort for steering feel. Sport setting for suspension seems to keep the wheels less spinning through the gears. Sport+ for throttle. All driver aids off makes for a great drive on twisty roads. Still I will admit based on your experience, the G series, longer and fatter and heavier with subjective looks, still sounds like a great BMW in the CS variant.
How would you compare the steering/handling against the current gen CTR? You mentioned “baby GT3”, but many auto journalists have equated the CTR as GT3-esque. Having driven both, I’d tend to agree. CTR is arguably the best driver’s car under 100k save for maybe the M2CS and 718 GTS.
It is a fantastic car. As a current owner of a 992S, a new GT4RS and an M4C, the bmw by far has the nicest interior and the one that you truly feel the build quality is superior. Yes I believe the interior build quality blows both of my Porsches away. However, for bmw to ask 120k for a car that only has some very very minor differences from their m3/4c is a bit outrageous to say the least. The CS does not justify a 120k price plus any additional dealer bs. Get a regular comp, put BM3 and an aftermarket coilover suspension and it’ll smoke that CS all day long. My 2 cents!
Hey Martin, I felt the same as you before I drove the car. I can’t say I fully agree now though. There are M3/4 comps spec’d out to well over $100k with the right options. Adding coil overs and a tune would make it straight line faster but it’s not as simple as that for the track. We’ve added coil overs to many cars including GT4’s and I can say for sure if the factory can get it right from the beginning (like they have on the CS and Porsche did on the GT4RS) it’s much preferred. By the time it’s all said and done you’d be close to MSRP on the CS with a close but not completely equivalent car. Plus your resale would be way less. BMW didn’t do a good job of marketing the differences in the comp and CS, but it is actually meaningful when you add it all up. The best news is, as of now, you can get a CS for only $5k over as we did if you do a little calling around. Thanks for your comment!
I really enjoyed your review of the 2024 BMW M3 CS. I also bought the same color M3 CS on May 1st and I'm loving it so far. I was wondering what tires your M3 CS has on it? Mine has Michelin Cup 2 tires and they're amazing. They provide excellent grip. I've also been really impressed with the performance of the M3 CS. It's incredibly fast and agile, and it's a blast to drive. highly recommend it to anyone who's looking for a high-performance sports sedan. I also wanted to ask what kind of adjusted dealer markup you paid for your M3 CS? I'm curious to know how much you ended up paying for it. Thanks for the great review!
Hey Martin, thanks! Mine actually has PZero Corsa’s on it, which is odd but they are very good tires (80TW). Looking forward to see what they can do on the track. Agreed this is probably the highest performing sports sedan you can get new in 2023. We paid 5 over MSRP Cheers!
@@De132an Yeah I feel pretty good about it, especially after driving it. We're borrowing an M5CS next week to do a review on so really curious to see which we like more by the end of the shoot, including price.
@@carhoney wow! Only about 1000 were ever made and I know of only 2, one in Naples FL the other in Northern VA. You are one lucky dude to get one to do your comparison. Just a hint, the V-8 is a monster. Can’t wait!!
How rough is the suspension in town on the CS? We have awful roads here and the normal comp is good, but much rougher would be tough to drive every day
It’s certainly stiffer, but a lot of it is just extra road feel but not jarring or harsh bumps. I would say you would notice more for sure compared to the comp which feels comfortable to me.
@@carhoney cheers-I was on the fence about upgrading to a CS but for my daily driver it seems a bit over the top unless you’re taking it to the track. Good to know the suspension is good around town though! For me the lack of 360 camera and adaptive cruise options hurt the livability in town and on highway commutes-always squeezing down tiny streets, in small parking spots, and fighting bumper to bumper traffic
@@solar5286 yeah the executive package and lack of adaptive cruise control is a big deal for a daily. It also lacks a center console and cup holders/dc outlet in the center. It just has the wireless phone charger.
@@solar5286 yes same here, I don’t use it but it’s such a convenient spot for my phone I accidentally use it. Which it could be turned off or exchanged for cop holders
Hearing you make the distinction about track use is pivotal. Because of small production numbers, most won’t actually see the track or the hard driving environments where they would shine. On the streets and even in canyon/backroad environments, I don’t think it’s worth the price jump. I hope the owners of these cars actually put them on course, but I understand why they wouldn’t.
Absolutely agree. Just a sad fact with a lot of the special track edition cars out there. Where I will depart a little from this is that on the back roads, the steering feel does add enough of a special element that makes it a lot more entertaining. Especially because more feedback while driving slower than at the track = a better experience without having to track the car. Similar to manual transmissions in theory. But ultimately once we do our track testing we will see if that holds true or if this thing really needs to be on a track. (It is entirely possible that it’s sweet spot is canyons/back roads, but probably not)
@@carhoney That’s fair. I bought a manual M3 with that theory base in mind. I don’t plan to track mine at all, but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it on tight, twisty roads at speeds where redlining 2nd, getting higher revs in 3rd can be accomplished. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts once you’ve had a track outing or two.
Agreed, wish it was lighter, engine sounded better and had a DCT. BUT, we have a GT4RS which is not a pig, sounds amazing, and has one of the best DCT’s ever and the M3CS is still an exciting car compared to it on the street.
We’re both about 6’3”. Plenty of head room and side to side. Only issue is the hip bolsters a just a little but narrow for my liking but they are better for track driving for sure.
@Car Honey oh neat to know. I'm 6ft2" and was worried the F80 or F87 M2 Comp. might be too small for me but you're giving me a bit of hope now. Currently shopping and can't make a decision of which to pick as a daily driver and car I use to learn about the M platform and start doing upgrades on. Definitely not tracking either.
At 6:4 225 those bucket 🪣 seats ain't going to work out for me. Taking them out and selling them for over ten grand. Is 💰 a winner. Then it becomes a daily driver.
Would be cool if you guys were so fastidious to mention how much fuel you were carrying at weigh in. Also, there's really little point to guessing at suspension alignment specs as they're always off from the factory (long time on the ship crossing the Atlantic). ZF is a cost cutting mistake. They should've evolved the M DCT. Huge miss. It's the porkiest M3 ever built. Saddies.
@@carhoney you guys gotta drive my car bro! I have a dinan midpipe with dahler valve controller. Since i work for bmw I dont want to delete the second cat.Before I added the midpipe, the dahler controller made a noticeable sound change with stock set up. I dont think you should swap for a new exhaust because you already have the titanium mufflers. Just get a mid that take off the secondary cats👍
What you are saying is simply not true. The G80 M3 Competition and G82 M4 Competition have exactly the same HP and are essentially the same price. If you’re googling this difference and using the google car comparison widget that pops up immediately, that is what is steering you wrong.
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Update: Here's our M5 CS vs M3 CS Comparison Video...ruclips.net/video/KYjdbX2-TW4/видео.html
Great video!
I just got my 3CS .. I also have a 718 GT4, buckets and manual. Porsche buckets are more comfortable to me because of the lateral thigh pressure but I’m getting used to it.
The 3CS came out of nowhere, wasn’t on my radar and I randomly came across an unclaimed allocation so I jumped at it. I was very pleasantly surprised when I drove it. I had a couple F80s and liked them, never drove a G80 so I didn’t really know what to expect with this car but 400miles in and it’s a real joy. Your thoughts echo what I’ve felt to be true.
Thanks for your comments, we come from the same GT4/RS reference and it really is a surprisingly good car especially for the price compared to Porsches. Glad you’re enjoying it!
I currently have the m but have had gt4. Both are rockets and handle well but the m3 is probably faster while the Porsche was more planted (which is saying something compared to the phenomenal handling of the m3). I loved the instant throttle feedback from a NA Porsche though. The m3 takes a split second to respond and isn’t as “fun” I guess is the word. Either way, enjoy those beasts my friend
"we didn't go over 5500 rpm once, because of break in" pause.... "except to red line couple of times by accident" Says every BMW owner. ;) 1st time seeing you videos, this was a great review!
Haha thanks Sean…it was only once or twice, a few times, per day ;)
@@carhoney great. oil consumption issues for the future owner.
😂🎉
Yeah I bet the next owner will love that 😂
Small channel but your editing and music choice makes the videos easy to watch.
Keep it up, see you guys at 5K subscribers!
Cheers Lanre!
Just stumbled onto this. Great video Chase and Griffen!! Great car too!
yall doing great stuff on this channel
Thank you!!
This channel just popped up my auto play and I’m glad it did great review very informative and entertaining
Thanks Richard!
I turned off the digital sound fakery with BimmerCode on my G80 comp. It sounds fantastic, valves still open and close and you do get some burbles in sport+
Awesome pro tip, thanks!
@@solar5286 going to do this asap
Please keep us posted and let us know if it works. I hate the fake sound
Upload a video then!
There no videos from ASD disabled G80s and G82s on youtube.
@@jortepap it’s in our next video (with M5CS) out tomorrow.
Got my 2024 M3 cs . Very happy
Congrats!
My favourite part was you guys checking out the weight distribution and the camber
Thanks Chris!
Great video guys thanks for coming by s car go
Thanks for your help Angel!
Excellent vid bro, joy to watch this vehicle in action and props for being the first. Enjoy
Thanks Gabe!
This channel is sick dude!
Thanks man!
Awesome review! Really well put together technical analysis, and honest feedback from dudes who have experience with more high end cars! Subbed!
G80 Comp X owner here. Do you think they will release mods for us which will address the steering feel?
Thanks a lot! I think your best bet is to upgrade to the M sport suspension if you haven’t already and get a more aggressive alignment setup. That will address some of the mechanical side of things. Unfortunately, I think there’s a fair amount of electronic steering tuning they’ve done which I wouldn’t think they would release but maybe?
@@carhoney Good call on the supension! Hope they release a mod / tune on the steering for sure!
Agree with summary 100%.
Cheers Paul
Great content guys! My CS isn’t gonna be here till September
Thanks Tim! It’s worth the wait…
Saw this thing in fairfax! Such a sick car
That’s us! Come say what’s up next time!
Crazy how I saw this car in Fairfax the other day and happened to stumble onto the video…absolutely love the g80 M3cs one of my dream cars 🫶
Nice! I’m sure we’ll see you around in Fairfax, come say hi if you spot it again
I think I read the torque curve has been smoothed out compared to the CP variant for higher speeds for track. The CP is little more energetic for more road fun.
My ‘18 F80CP seems to like comfort for steering feel. Sport setting for suspension seems to keep the wheels less spinning through the gears. Sport+ for throttle. All driver aids off makes for a great drive on twisty roads. Still I will admit based on your experience, the G series, longer and fatter and heavier with subjective looks, still sounds like a great BMW in the CS variant.
Makes sense...track test is next for this 👌
Beautiful car absolutely gorgeous even with out all the performance this is just a beautiful car
Great, fun, review!
Great job with this video
Thanks Scully!
Great vid!! Any regrets on not getting CCB? Curious if CCB are worth the premium over the standard brakes on this car
Not at all, the steels are really good too and wayyy cheaper
How would you compare the steering/handling against the current gen CTR?
You mentioned “baby GT3”, but many auto journalists have equated the CTR as GT3-esque. Having driven both, I’d tend to agree. CTR is arguably the best driver’s car under 100k save for maybe the M2CS and 718 GTS.
You can tell there’s slightly more assistance due to the higher weight on the CS but the feedback/feel is right up there (depending on tires).
CTR is Crash Team Racing or what?
It is a fantastic car. As a current owner of a 992S, a new GT4RS and an M4C, the bmw by far has the nicest interior and the one that you truly feel the build quality is superior. Yes I believe the interior build quality blows both of my Porsches away. However, for bmw to ask 120k for a car that only has some very very minor differences from their m3/4c is a bit outrageous to say the least. The CS does not justify a 120k price plus any additional dealer bs. Get a regular comp, put BM3 and an aftermarket coilover suspension and it’ll smoke that CS all day long. My 2 cents!
Hey Martin, I felt the same as you before I drove the car. I can’t say I fully agree now though. There are M3/4 comps spec’d out to well over $100k with the right options. Adding coil overs and a tune would make it straight line faster but it’s not as simple as that for the track. We’ve added coil overs to many cars including GT4’s and I can say for sure if the factory can get it right from the beginning (like they have on the CS and Porsche did on the GT4RS) it’s much preferred. By the time it’s all said and done you’d be close to MSRP on the CS with a close but not completely equivalent car. Plus your resale would be way less. BMW didn’t do a good job of marketing the differences in the comp and CS, but it is actually meaningful when you add it all up. The best news is, as of now, you can get a CS for only $5k over as we did if you do a little calling around. Thanks for your comment!
@@carhoney Great reply, I do agree with all of the above...resale value for sure will be much better on a CS. Keep up the good content!
I really enjoyed your review of the 2024 BMW M3 CS. I also bought the same color M3 CS on May 1st and I'm loving it so far. I was wondering what tires your M3 CS has on it? Mine has Michelin Cup 2 tires and they're amazing. They provide excellent grip.
I've also been really impressed with the performance of the M3 CS. It's incredibly fast and agile, and it's a blast to drive. highly recommend it to anyone who's looking for a high-performance sports sedan.
I also wanted to ask what kind of adjusted dealer markup you paid for your M3 CS? I'm curious to know how much you ended up paying for it.
Thanks for the great review!
Hey Martin, thanks! Mine actually has PZero Corsa’s on it, which is odd but they are very good tires (80TW). Looking forward to see what they can do on the track.
Agreed this is probably the highest performing sports sedan you can get new in 2023.
We paid 5 over MSRP
Cheers!
@@carhoney not bad over sticker. I’ve got a friend that paid 15 over for his M5CS in green and gold. And drives it as his daily.
@@De132an Yeah I feel pretty good about it, especially after driving it. We're borrowing an M5CS next week to do a review on so really curious to see which we like more by the end of the shoot, including price.
@@carhoney wow! Only about 1000 were ever made and I know of only 2, one in Naples FL the other in Northern VA. You are one lucky dude to get one to do your comparison. Just a hint, the V-8 is a monster. Can’t wait!!
@@De132an yeah we’re particularly excited for this comparison review haha
I’m getting my M3 CS in a few weeks. These are some great videos. Are you planning to do any mods on your M3 CS? If so what are you thinking?
Hay great job you guys. Cool vid.
We’ve just sold our Quadrifoglio and got a M4CX, must say it’s a far better car than the QV 👍
Glad you like it!
CX is a new trim of competition?
@@1anrecompetition Xdrive
In every way? Including handling?
How rough is the suspension in town on the CS? We have awful roads here and the normal comp is good, but much rougher would be tough to drive every day
It’s certainly stiffer, but a lot of it is just extra road feel but not jarring or harsh bumps. I would say you would notice more for sure compared to the comp which feels comfortable to me.
@@carhoney cheers-I was on the fence about upgrading to a CS but for my daily driver it seems a bit over the top unless you’re taking it to the track.
Good to know the suspension is good around town though!
For me the lack of 360 camera and adaptive cruise options hurt the livability in town and on highway commutes-always squeezing down tiny streets, in small parking spots, and fighting bumper to bumper traffic
@@solar5286 yeah the executive package and lack of adaptive cruise control is a big deal for a daily. It also lacks a center console and cup holders/dc outlet in the center. It just has the wireless phone charger.
@@carhoney have you noticed the wireless charger getting really hot during use? It charges so slowly and overheats my phone. I never use it
@@solar5286 yes same here, I don’t use it but it’s such a convenient spot for my phone I accidentally use it. Which it could be turned off or exchanged for cop holders
i saw this car at a bmw show meet at bmw own dealer ship 1-2 weeks ago have picture on it and allso on the wagon virson
Eh that grille… I’m kidding, I love my G80. Congrats on a beautiful spec!
Ha, at least it’s been somewhat improved in the CS
@@carhoney much agreed! I ended getting an carbon version for mine. Made a huge difference.
@@randomhobbyist99 yeah I wish the CS came with carbon, might have to make that upgrade as well
Hearing you make the distinction about track use is pivotal. Because of small production numbers, most won’t actually see the track or the hard driving environments where they would shine. On the streets and even in canyon/backroad environments, I don’t think it’s worth the price jump. I hope the owners of these cars actually put them on course, but I understand why they wouldn’t.
Absolutely agree. Just a sad fact with a lot of the special track edition cars out there. Where I will depart a little from this is that on the back roads, the steering feel does add enough of a special element that makes it a lot more entertaining. Especially because more feedback while driving slower than at the track = a better experience without having to track the car. Similar to manual transmissions in theory. But ultimately once we do our track testing we will see if that holds true or if this thing really needs to be on a track. (It is entirely possible that it’s sweet spot is canyons/back roads, but probably not)
@@carhoney That’s fair. I bought a manual M3 with that theory base in mind. I don’t plan to track mine at all, but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it on tight, twisty roads at speeds where redlining 2nd, getting higher revs in 3rd can be accomplished. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts once you’ve had a track outing or two.
@@brandonchism6960 good call on the manual. And we can’t wait to share what we find!
@@brandonchism6960 an F80 or G80 M3? And was it base or Competition?
@@1anre my car is my thumbnail. G80 base. Unfortunately, the comp isn’t available in manual.
@Car Honey: How does the spring&damping compare to your Giulia with Alfissimo GTA springs and GTA CDCM?
Hey great review ! How much gas did you guys have in the tank when weighing the car ?
Thanks! Full tank
G⃣r⃣e⃣a⃣t⃣ review, great Bimmer with Porsche Dna 👍
Thanks!
I was hoping you were going to address the elephant in the room: M3 CS.. or M5 CS?
Yeah we definitely need to answer that…M5 CS review and final answer on that soon
@@carhoney awesome! Thanks for the video. My M3 CS is in transit. I cannot wait to drive it
@@Evinrudeeee you’re going to love it - great choice grabbing an allocation
Here's the M5 CS Comparison video: ruclips.net/video/KYjdbX2-TW4/видео.html
love the car... hate the red pinstripe on the grill!!!! looks better as a competition.
I didn't know you could get the M3 (and hopefully M4) CS with the red trim around the grille, I thought it was CSL-exclusive? 😮
Yep! And it looks amazing in person
the CSL has it on the hood as well
So what were those STOCK alignment specs front and rear?
I think you should arrange a road trip to San Jose to visit a very knowledgeable BMW tuner.
I’ve driven an M3 Comp that was tuned to 750HP and it was an absolute animal! These engines really take a tune well
@@carhoney It's not only the reliable and usable power. The setup is even better.
Awesome machine guy's 👏
Thanks!
@@carhoney keep the videos coming on this monster.....my dream machine
Hey when are you guys gonna upload the m5cs vs m3cs?
By Thursday. Just shot day 1. Excited to share what we’ve found 😅
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"Its like a baby GT3" - thats saying alot. Makes me want to upgrade from my G80 XDrive.
We think it’s worth the upgrade for sure
If you get an allocation
Amazing
Thanks!
Did you ever get to change the build while it was in 111 status?
No it was locked from the beginning. Most dealers chose the config and then it was set.
@@carhoney thanks for the information! I have one on order and kept trying to change it.
As an f80 owner this pigs starting to grow on meto bad it doesnt have a dct
Agreed, wish it was lighter, engine sounded better and had a DCT. BUT, we have a GT4RS which is not a pig, sounds amazing, and has one of the best DCT’s ever and the M3CS is still an exciting car compared to it on the street.
Driver, how tall are you? Was the M3 comfortable?
We’re both about 6’3”. Plenty of head room and side to side. Only issue is the hip bolsters a just a little but narrow for my liking but they are better for track driving for sure.
@Car Honey oh neat to know.
I'm 6ft2" and was worried the F80 or F87 M2 Comp. might be too small for me but you're giving me a bit of hope now.
Currently shopping and can't make a decision of which to pick as a daily driver and car I use to learn about the M platform and start doing upgrades on.
Definitely not tracking either.
The xdrive steering different from the rwd.
Carbon ceramics should be included in all CS
Is that Spencer Burke?
At 6:4 225 those bucket 🪣 seats ain't going to work out for me. Taking them out and selling them for over ten grand. Is 💰 a winner. Then it becomes a daily driver.
I can’t believe they glued that massive screen in the CS… I hate that screen.
Unfortunately I agree...
BMW anyday best cars in the world
How much to they over charge for this
These are going for $5k over MSRP at the moment
@@carhoney that’s pretty low. Not gonna complain that I’m getting mine at sticker. I see too many dealerships asking 25-50k over
@@gj3919 congrats!
I really like to know what a basic steering wheel feeling is like. LMAO, this review is killing me.
Would be cool if you guys were so fastidious to mention how much fuel you were carrying at weigh in. Also, there's really little point to guessing at suspension alignment specs as they're always off from the factory (long time on the ship crossing the Atlantic). ZF is a cost cutting mistake. They should've evolved the M DCT. Huge miss. It's the porkiest M3 ever built. Saddies.
It was a 100% full tank
😂 Did he just say dingdong?😅
Dart Vader's whip
I work for bmw of San Rafael and Concord, i am totally going to rat on you guys😂
🤣
@@carhoney Thank you once again for your business!
@@carhoney you guys gotta drive my car bro! I have a dinan midpipe with dahler valve controller. Since i work for bmw I dont want to delete the second cat.Before I added the midpipe, the dahler controller made a noticeable sound change with stock set up. I dont think you should swap for a new exhaust because you already have the titanium mufflers. Just get a mid that take off the secondary cats👍
Cool car.. but in this price range im buying a 911 T
M3 & m4 have a difference in horsepower ! A major difference lol not just doors , it’s the reason why it’s a much cheaper m model car !
What you are saying is simply not true. The G80 M3 Competition and G82 M4 Competition have exactly the same HP and are essentially the same price. If you’re googling this difference and using the google car comparison widget that pops up immediately, that is what is steering you wrong.
3900lbs holy fk!
music ruins this
Those orange reflectors for North America totally ruin cars! Horrendous 😂
Yeah we just change them out. The good dealerships will give you the clear ones with the car
@@carhoney I feel sorry for you guys. Its such a pathetic rule. 🤣
@@bh4560 we also can’t import Porsches with the club spot roll cages